> On 25-Oct-2012, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote at
> alt.politics.democrats:

>> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:13:12 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>> <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
>> wrote:

>> >In article <7jri88pie2l2lngei1hqmu3kqkurge3...@4ax.com>,
>> > duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

>> >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:18:47 -0500, "Eddie Haskell"
>> >> <hhsgs...@zzzzq.com>
>> >> wrote:

>> >> >"duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >> >news:p68i88phmjlf3l0qv2jta24ut8q3nad74h@4ax.com...
>> >> >> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:35:50 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>> >> >> <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:

>> >> >>>In article <kchg88pg33604vub2bi5mau67c3c6f1...@4ax.com>,
>> >> >>> duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

>> >> >>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:29:38 -0500, "Eddie Haskell"
>> >> >>>><hhsgs...@zzzzq.com>
>> >> >>>> wrote:

>> >> >>>> >"duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>>> >news:qlhf885bjvtrsvve86c2mj6umg0t0ss7gl@4ax.com...
>> >> >>>> >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:50:45 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes
>> >> >>>><skyey...@cox.net>
>> >> >>>> >> wrote:

>> >> >>>> >>>On Oct 23, 5:00 pm, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
>> >> >>>>wrote:
>> >> >>>> >>>> In article <og7e88dtffnpcbads2g77aove2scvnd...@4ax.com>,

>> >> >>>> >>>> duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> >>>> >>>> > On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:05:38 -0500, "Eddie Haskell"
>> >> >>>> >>>> > <hhsgs...@zzzzq.com>
>> >> >>>> >>>> > wrote:

>> >> >>>> >>>> > >"duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >news:4eqd889ihc0s1cdpo1m3580murmqp3b1cl@4ax.com...
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:37:30 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >> <sbaln...@alburg.net>
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >> wrote:

>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>In alt.atheism duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:45:37 -0500, Rod
>> >> >>>><nhraf...@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>> wrote:

>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>><snip>

>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>>>On 10/23/2012 10:51 AM, duke wrote:
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>>> It remains this way because the players are the same
>> >> >>>>groups
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>>> of
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>>> people
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>>>causing these problems, every time.
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>>> I would encourage all people all people to withold
>> >> >>>>their
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>>> votes
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>>> and
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>>>FORCE congress and the government in an entirely new
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>>>direction
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>>>that
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>>>wasn't planned and paid for.

>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>> The problem with that is that the "gimme something
>> >> >>>>free,
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>> mister"
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>> crowd
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>> won't go
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>> along with that. And there's always a politician
>> >> >>>>willing to
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>> bite
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>> on
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>> that fish
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>> hook.

>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>*cough* tax-exempt churches *cough*

>> >> >>>> >>>> > >> Tax exempt because they are charity based, and no
>> >> >>>>politicking
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >> from
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >> the
>> >> >>>> >>>> > >> pulpit.

>> >> >>>> >>>> > >Unless you are a democrat politician

>> >> >>>> >>>> <piggybacking>

>> >> >>>> >>>> What's a "democrat politician"?

>> >> >>>> >>>One of those politicians who are members of the party that
>> >> >>>> >>>Puke
>> >> >>>> >>>doesn't like.  You know:  like John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

>> >> >>>> >> JFK was a Republican.  No 'rat politician would never be
>> >> >>>> >> caught
>> >> >>>>dead
>> >> >>>> >> saying "ask
>> >> >>>> >> not what your country can do for you, ask instead what you can
>> >> >>>>do for
>> >> >>>> >> your
>> >> >>>> >> country."

>> >> >>>> >Or advocating across the board tax cuts on individuals and
>> >> >>>>business to
>> >> >>>> >spur
>> >> >>>> >economic growth and increased revenues like what worked for JFK,
>> >> >>>> >Reagan,
>> >> >>>> >Clinton and Bush. Today democrats smear JFK's policies as
>> >> >>>>"trickle
>> >> >>>> >down"
>> >> >>>> >while their new socialist policy is trickle down government,
>> >> >>>>which of
>> >> >>>> >course
>> >> >>>> >doesn't work.

>> >> >>>> The 'rats don't get it.

>> >> >>>Yeah, we don't get how you can completely ignore the facts that
>> >> >>>PROVE
>> >> >>>that trickle-down economics don't work, that, in fact, they are a
>> >> >>>disaster.

>> >> >>>And what the fuck is "trickle-down government"?

>> >> >> Exactly what buckwheat is selling fools like you - of the
>> >> >> government, by
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> government, and for the government.  The government owns everything
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> trickles
>> >> >> it out as it sees fit.

>> >> >> Buckwheat has gone crazy spending America into a deficit that we
>> >> >> may
>> >> >> never
>> >> >> recover from until we become a 3rd world country.  23 million
>> >> >> Americans
>> >> >> unemployed/underemployed,  a disgusting healthcare program that
>> >> >> nobody
>> >> >> wants
>> >> >> except those that "get more freebies", green energy money
>> >> >> throwaway,
>> >> >> sequestration.  You get the point.

>> >> >> Buckwheat has been playing "Battleship" too much lately.

>> >> >Her question HAS to be a pretense of stupidity. What on earth does
>> >> >she
>> >> >think
>> >> >the failed "stimulus" was all about but trickle down government? No,
>> >> >she's
>> >> >playing the fool because she knows it's been an abject failure.

>> >> I just don't think she's smart enough to put that one together.

>> >The stimulus was NOT a failure, morons. Without it, we'd still be mired
>> >in a depression, just like Ireland and Great Britain who chose austerity
>> >over stimulus.

>> Thank God.  I thought we were mired in massive unemployment and
>> underemployment.

> Except that we aren't. At least 92% of the work force has jobs. Your
> system
> also has no way of distinguishing between individuals who work part time
> because of their own choice and those who work part time because they
> can't
> find full time work. You Republicans also refuse to take responsibility
> for
> the massive exporting of jobs to other countries just so that you can make
> the profit you think you deserve. As it is, you people are scum and you
> don't even deserve to live in the United States and enjoy the benefits
> thereof.