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Robert A. Leffingwell

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May 19, 2013, 9:48:44 AM5/19/13
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"Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in message
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> But the other thing that will come out of this is that a bunch of rogue
> agents at the IRS caused all of this. It wasn't any type of mandate that
> came down from the head of the IRS.

Nobody was a rogue. The agents were career civil servants whose job was to
enforce the law regardless of the deals the Democrats made with the
Republicans not to tread on their superPAC turf. To put it another way, how
can an organization that pays Sarah Palin $150,000 for a speech be tax
exempt?

How can Karl Rove's spending $150MM in negative commercials be a tax exempt
charity?

How can Shelly Adelson's $70MM to support candidates who would fight to have
China revalue Shelly's huge Yuan stash (originating from Macao gambling and
prostitution) be considered tax exempt?

Sure, the left wing also attempted the same shtick. The difference is they
don't have Koch money and they don't have Adelson money. They have union
money which in comparison is a drop in the bucket. The IRS did not give the
left that much scrutiny because there was HARDLY ANY MONEY there.

Joe Cooper

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May 19, 2013, 10:02:17 AM5/19/13
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"Robert A. Leffingwell" <RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Sure, the left wing also attempted the same shtick. The difference is
> they don't have Koch money and they don't have Adelson money. They
> have union money which in comparison is a drop in the bucket. The IRS
> did not give the left that much scrutiny because there was HARDLY ANY
> MONEY there.

Gee, what's poor George Soros to think being relegated to "union money?"
(Aside from that, I'd challenge the contention that "union money" is "a
drop in the bucket." That's just flat out nonsense.

Soros funds a good many exempt agitprop organizations, not the least of
which is Media Matters.

--
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Leftists think and act like protofascists. Control is the key. And
control through fear, threat of force, and rhetorical intimidation
is the modus operandi. (Ben Shapro, "Bullies")

Robert A. Leffingwell

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May 19, 2013, 10:30:46 AM5/19/13
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"Joe Cooper" <nieqez...@tormail.org> wrote in message
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." That's just flat out nonsense.
>
> Soros funds a good many exempt agitprop organizations, not the least of
> which is Media Matters.

Media Matters? Is that the website that proves people like you are full of
shit?

Bert

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May 19, 2013, 11:31:35 AM5/19/13
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In news:it4mt.72910$R74....@fed03.iad "Kirby Grant"
<kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote:

> Ultimately, even though there might be issues of fairness in
> targetting conservative groups, it doesn't appear that any laws were
> broken in such targeting. Conservatives would do the exact same thing
> to liberal groups if they had the ability.

Then you should be able to show that this sort of thing has been
happening for as long as 501(c) exemptions have existed, and was done
during both Republican and Democrat administrations.

> But in their case it would be done for solely evil purposes.

So, what was the good purpose for which the question was asked this
time?

I eagerly await your answers.

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be...@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN

Robert A. Leffingwell

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May 19, 2013, 11:59:59 AM5/19/13
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"Bert" <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
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> Then you should be able to show that this sort of thing has been
> happening for as long as 501(c) exemptions have existed, and was done
> during both Republican and Democrat administrations.

Bert, if were even half as intelligent as you tell us are, you would know
that because of the decision made by GOP appointees to the SCOTUS, there are
immense amounts of money for negative campaign ads disguised as C-3/4 money.
It is a condition that never existed before. This included things occurred
like Adelson's $70MM "charitable" giving which was only a ploy to benefit
candidates (mostly Gingrich) that would pressure China to upvalue Adelson's
Yuan holdings derived from gambling and prostitution.

Reasonable civil service workers saw stuff like Adelson and Rove's
dispensing Koch money for negative commercials and decided further
investigation was needed. The fact that the Dems and Reps made deals among
themselves to lay off each other's superPACs never crossed the minds of
career civil service worker. They were only concerned about the law.

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Bert

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May 19, 2013, 12:59:48 PM5/19/13
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In news:knasmg$531$1...@dont-email.me "Robert A. Leffingwell"
<RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Bert" <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
> news:XnsA1C56BC1B1E...@78.46.70.116...
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>> Then you should be able to show that this sort of thing has been
>> happening for as long as 501(c) exemptions have existed, and was done
>> during both Republican and Democrat administrations.
>
> Bert, if were even half as intelligent as you tell us are,

Since you have no answer, why do you even bother?

Robert A. Leffingwell

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May 19, 2013, 1:20:40 PM5/19/13
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"Bert" <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
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>> Bert, if were even half as intelligent as you tell us are,
>
> Since you have no answer, why do you even bother?

OK, you are not very intelligent. Happy now?

Bert

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May 19, 2013, 1:34:37 PM5/19/13
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In news:knb1dq$109$1...@dont-email.me "Robert A. Leffingwell"
There's really no reason for you to continue providing even more
evidence that you're a fool; that's been well established.

opel

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May 19, 2013, 1:44:57 PM5/19/13
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On 5/19/2013 7:29 AM, Kirby Grant wrote:
> Nevertheless, conservatives - mostly because they are evil - are

"Kirby Grant" <KGr...@yahoo.com> a �crit dans le message de groupe de
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> My life-partner, Brad, and I agree. This is, without a doubt, THE best
> song
> of 2012!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn5nEV8q-4U
>
> God favors President Obama because he isn't a stupid bible-thumper
> evangelical religous nut job. God hates all conservatives anyhow since
> conservatism is in direct opposition to the divine plan since it gets in
> the
> way of progress. God has always favored liberals. Conservatives only
favor
> themselves and hate god.
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RichTravsky

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May 19, 2013, 11:16:40 PM5/19/13
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Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
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> On Sun, 19 May 2013 13:29:50 GMT, "Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >On 18-May-2013, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:
> >
> >> Congressman: IRS asked pro-life group about 'the content of their
> >> prayers'
> >> http://washingtonexaminer.com/congressman-irs-asked-pro-life-group-about-the-content-of-their-prayers/article/2529924
> >>
> >> During a House Ways and Means Committee hearing today, Rep. Aaron
> >> Schock, R-Ill., grilled outgoing IRS commissioner Steven Miller about
> >> the IRS targeting a pro-life group in Iowa.
> >>
> >> “Their question, specifically asked from the IRS to the Coalition for
> >> Life of Iowa: ‘Please detail the content of the members of your
> >> organization’s prayers,’" Schock declared.
> >>
> >> “Would that be an inappropriate question to a 501 c3 applicant?” asked
> >> Schock. “The content of one’s prayers?”
> >>
> >> “It pains me to say I can’t speak to that one either,” Miller replied.
> >>
> >> After Schock pressed him further, Miller explained that although he
> >> couldn't comment on the specific case, it would "surprise him" if that
> >> question was asked.
> >>
> >> The report comes from the Thomas More Society, a national public
> >> interest law firm for religious liberty.
> >>
> >> CB
> >> Clear violation of Separation of Church and State
> >>
> >> Steven Miller is a piece of...work, without natural affection,
> >> souless.
> >
> >Ultimately, even though there might be issues of fairness in targetting
> >conservative groups, it doesn't appear that any laws were broken in such
> >targeting. Conservatives would do the exact same thing to liberal groups if
> >they had the ability. But in their case it would be done for solely evil
> >purposes.
>
> This isn't about the actions of Conservatives or Republicans, it's
> about the systematic, purposeful intent of this administration through
> EVERY controlled branch of government to suppress Constitutional
> rights of Conservative groups to community organize.

Why did Bush appointee Shulman do this?

prawnster

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May 20, 2013, 4:44:32 AM5/20/13
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On May 19, 8:16 pm, RichTravsky <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> Why did Bush appointee Shulman do this?

Just trying to do right by the man who issued the orders: Brock
H'ussein O'Yumyums.

"Never let a good crisis go to waste." ~ Brock Osama, King 47%
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opel

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May 20, 2013, 12:10:53 PM5/20/13
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On 5/20/2013 6:54 AM, Kirby Grant wrote:
> We don't have to be fair. Fairness is a luxury we cannot afford in certain
> areas.


Listen to the little fascist fag dribble on.

Did you clear that emission with your "life partner Brad"?

"Kirby Grant" <KGr...@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de groupe de

Robert A. Leffingwell

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May 20, 2013, 12:13:29 PM5/20/13
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"opel" <ad...@novalid.org.> wrote in message
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> Listen to the little fascist fag dribble on.

Opie, are you capable of enunciating ANYTHING resembling SOME degree of
intelligence?

BTW, aside for the idiotic fascist thing, why do you still call total
strangers the same stupid names your dad called you?

Gronk

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opel

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May 29, 2013, 1:10:07 PM5/29/13
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On 5/28/2013 12:32 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> Don't you dare let Repubicans pass immigration reform.

You mean amnesty.
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Hell Stomper

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May 29, 2013, 4:31:20 PM5/29/13
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On May 19, 9:48 am, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
<RALeffingw...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Nobody was a rogue.

Correct. They were following orders from Obama.

Gronk

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May 29, 2013, 4:35:18 PM5/29/13
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You mean Bush appointee Shulman, as this started under Bush.


opel

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May 29, 2013, 4:37:05 PM5/29/13
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On 5/29/2013 2:35 PM, Gronk wrote:
> Hell Stomper wrote:
>> On May 19, 9:48 am, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
>> <RALeffingw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nobody was a rogue.
>>
>> Correct. They were following orders from Obama.
>
> You mean Bush appointee

Obama re-appointee.

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Gronk

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May 29, 2013, 9:09:56 PM5/29/13
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LOL

Nope. Shulman had a single five year appointment which ran out last
November. No reappointed


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RichTravsky

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May 31, 2013, 11:41:55 PM5/31/13
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Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
> Such a poor...poor judge of character

That's Duhbya for ya.
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GSI

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Jun 1, 2013, 11:50:15 PM6/1/13
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On 2013-06-01 21:09:48 +0000, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig said:

> For someone who claims Republicans be ignant, you don't have a clue
> was to what laws, Constitutional rights have been violated.
>
> Your source of news reveal who be the ignant, hee'uh. That be you.
>
> Now go watch the real source for the truth of what Obama, Holder,
> Rice, Hillary, Shulman, Lerner and...Joseph Grant, commissioner of the
> agency’s tax exempt/government entities divisions. That guy may just
> be the key to Oboobuh's jail time.

Everything you believe, or pretend to believe is a LIE.
You are a Zionist, and EGOIST.
You are a STUPID fool, being used by Zionists.
There are millions of you.
Zionists are dangeling a carrot called "Jesus" in front of you,
and you are eagerly turning TRAITOR on your country, and
bending over for your Zionist masters.
They don't give a shit about you or Jesus.
They want to totally control and own this world.
They are not "spiritual" in any way.
Their goals are 100% material.
You are cannon-fodder to them.

You are an Egoist, who believes his lot or status will be greatly
improved if the Zionists "WIN". So you will repeat and believe
any LIE to get YOUR "WIN". There are millions like you.
Sick creeps being USED by smart, ruthless propagandists.
All of what goes on in American politics relates to the struggle
for total control of America, and the American military by Zionists.
One they gain control of the presidency, they will control
everything, the government, the military, the corporations, the media.
Everything else is now in place, except the Presidency.
WW3 is near, and EGOISTS like CB know it. They can't wait…
- GSI

Hell Stomper

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Jun 2, 2013, 12:49:10 AM6/2/13
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He was taking his orders from Obama. Get over it, your done.
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RichTravsky

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Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
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> On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 09:54:38 -0400, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @
> 7/11.nig wrote:
>
> >Actually President Bush was given little choice of two Evils'.
>
> Bush wasn't smart enough personally to know one way or other
>
> He had extremists running everything from foriegn policy to economic
> policy and he had NO way of discerning what was harmful to all
> america.

Hey, cut the hick some slack - at least he admitted incompetent Duhbya
appointed another incompetent.

RT
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