Jewish Voice for Peace:- Support for the Goldstone Report
John Fisher
http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/
Frankly, I've had enough of the lies and distortions surrounding the
UN Goldstone Report. I've had enough of the maneuvering by Israel, the
US, and other countries in order to dismiss the report and its authors
and bury it altogether.
If you are as dismayed as I am, sign at SupportGoldstone.org, and
we'll let key Israeli officials, members of Congress, and Goldstone
himself know how many of you support the report.
What we need, instead of the smear campaigns, is discussion of the
report's substance: the use of phosphorus that literally burned people
alive (I saw the terrible impact with my own eyes on a recent trip to
Gaza); or the use of metal darts called flechettes that twist when
they enter the body; or the long term impacts of contaminated land and
water.
Early next week the report heads to the floor of the US Congress and
the UN General Assembly, and we're expecting continued pressure to
have this important document roundly dismissed.
The continued attacks on the Goldstone Report prevent accountability
for the civilian victims before, during and after the attack on Gaza
-- both Palestinians and Israelis -- and shred the rule of law.
That's why we are asking you to say: I support the Goldstone Report.
Once you sign, we'll tell you how to easily and quickly lobby Congress
and your UN Ambassador in the next few days.
The truth is that the Goldstone Report is a well-researched, fair-
minded report. It accuses both Israel and Hamas of war crimes and
possible crimes against humanity during the attack on Gaza, and it
calls on Israel and Hamas to conduct credible, independent
investigations or face the International Criminal Court.
I support the Goldstone Report.
Israel decided not to cooperate with the investigation and now claims
that the report and its results are biased. Worse yet, Israel claims
that the report negates its right to defend its population, when in
reality, all the report does is insist that such a defense take place
within the bounds of international law.
The United States and other countries are repeating the same lines,
and have exerted great diplomatic pressure to kill the report.
The US Congress is getting ready to pass a resolution next week
calling on President Obama to do everything he can to bury the
Goldstone Report. The UN General Assembly will vote on it. Israel
might launch its own investigation, if it is pressured enough to do
so. And if it does, our task will be to ensure that the investigation
is comprehensive, impartial, and aimed towards addressing, punishing
and preventing future human rights abused - and not at changing the
laws of war such that another blatant assault on civilian life and
property as the Gaza war will ever become acceptable under
international law.
Please join us in supporting the Goldstone Report now.
Thanks,
Cecilie Surasky
Jewish Voice for Peace
Here's what different pro-justice pro-peace groups have to say about
the Goldstone report:
Jewish Voice for Peace: JVP Responds to the Goldstone Report
Amnesty International: UN must ensure Goldstone inquiry
recommendations are implemented
B'Tselem: Israel must investigate army's conduct in Operation Cast
Lead
Palestinian Centre for Human Rights: PCHR Welcomes Hamas Decision to
Investigate Allegations of War Crimes, Comply With Goldstone
Report,First Step Towards Justice: Human Rights Council Adopts
Resolution Endorsing Goldstone Report’s Findings and Recommendations
Taanit Tzedek -- Jewish Fast for Gaza Leaders of Taanit Tzedek Support
Goldstone Report
You can download the full Goldstone report here.
A few of the previous human rights reports and testimonies on the
attack on Gaza are available here:
Amnesty International: Foreign Arms Supplies To Israel/Gaza Fueling
Conflict
Breaking the Silence
Human Rights Watch: Rain of Fire: Israel's Unlawful Use of White
Phosphorus in Gaza
National Lawyers' Guild: Onslaught: Israel's Attack on Gaza & The Rule
of Law
Physicians for Human Rights: Independent Fact Finding Mission into
Violations of Human Rights in the Gaza Strip
Honest truth
problem.
> The truth is that the Goldstone Report is a well-researched, fair-
> minded report. It accuses both Israel and Hamas of war crimes and
> possible crimes against humanity during the attack on Gaza, and it
> calls on Israel and Hamas to conduct credible, independent
> investigations or face the International Criminal Court.
--
嚙踝蕭Of all the extreme fanaticism which plays havoc in man嚙踝蕭s nature, there is
not one as irrational as anti-Semitism. 嚙皺 If the Jews are rich [these
fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of
ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take
advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it
is because they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew dwells
in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to
his own land, he is prevented from doing so.嚙踝蕭
Lloyd George
John Fisher
> HAMAS war crimes caused the conflict and they will be ignored, that is the
> problem.
>
> > The truth is that the Goldstone Report is a well-researched, fair-
> > minded report. It accuses both Israel and Hamas of war crimes and
> > possible crimes against humanity during the attack on Gaza, and it
> > calls on Israel and Hamas to conduct credible, independent
> > investigations or face the International Criminal Court.
>
> --
> not one as irrational as anti-Semitism. … If the Jews are rich [these
> fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of
> ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take
> advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it
> is because they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew dwells
> in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to
>
> Lloyd George
Anti-semitism argument is a no brainer and has little substance in
regard to the current state of affairs!!! The reality is that Israel
is a Criminal State which needs chastisement!! (mnsvho)
Honest truth
Still acting the fool John Fisher, we have proof that HAMAS fired missiles
into Israel.
John Fisher
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Where's your "proof"??? Here's proof of Israeli bearers of false
witness (agents of the criminal State of Israel):
Israel spys on United States of America:
http://search.aol.com/aol/search?query=israel+spies+on+usa&s_it=client95_searchbox
Israeli False Flag operations:killing Americans and creating havoc
around theworld:
http://search.aol.com/aol/search?query=israel%27s+false+flags+used+on+us&s_it=client95_searchbox
John Fisher
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> Israeli False Flag operations:killing Americans and creating havoc
> around theworld:
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Congress is considering a resolution, H.Res.867, asking the Obama
Administration to prevent further consideration of the Goldstone
Report, which documents war crimes committed before, during, and after
Israel's December 2008-January 2009 assault on the Gaza Strip.
The Goldstone Report could be the best chance for holding Israel
accountable for the war crimes it committed in the Gaza Strip and
bringing justice to the victims of these human rights violations. If
it passes, H.Res.867 would put additional pressure on the Obama
Administration to quash the Goldstone Report.
Join me in taking action by sending a letter to your Representative
asking him/her not to cosponsor or vote for H.Res.867 by <a
href="http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/641/t/2439/campaign.jsp?
campaign_KEY=28017">clicking here</a>.
John Fisher
Congress is considering a resolution, H.Res.867, asking the Obama
John Fisher
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Judge Richard Goldstone, a highly respected jurist from South Africa
whose credentials are impeccable and who is a self-declared Zionist,
lead a U.N. fact-finding mission to Gaza in April to investigate what
had happened there during "Operation Cast Lead." The 575-page report
Goldstone Report that resulted from his investigations, accusing both
Israel and Hamas of war crimes violations, was immediately attacked by
the Israeli government as biased and unfair.
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/specialsession/9/FactFindingMission.htm
Last week in a political move of the most cynical kind,
Representatives Berman (D-CA) and Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL), leadership of
the U.S. House Foreign Relations Committee, introduced H Res 867, a
bill that reads as though it were drafted by AIPAC, which it might
well have been. H Res 867 is calling on the President and the
Secretary of State to oppose unequivocally any endorsement or further
consideration of the "Report of the United Nations Fact Finding
Mission on the Gaza Conflict" in multilateral fora.
Call your Members of Congress TODAY at 202-224-3121 and tell them to
vote NO on this flawed legislation. If they have already co-sponsored
the bill (check here) and tell them to withdraw their support. You can
also email your Representative directly here!
Read Judge Goldstone's detailed response here! http://codepinkalert.org/article.php?id=5148
Use the US Campaign Talking Points/FAQ on the Goldstone Report
Let us know how your call went by clicking here
http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/424/signUp.jsp?key=4538
H Res 867 is politics of the worst kind-it is a crass attempt to
suppress not only the truth of what Israelis and Palestinians did in
Gaza, but any discussion of the issue at all. Thankfully, Judge
Goldstone has sent a detailed response, http://codepinkalert.org/article.php?id=5148
which exposes the serious factual errors, mischaracterizations and
blatant lies contained in the resolution. It is doubtful that the co-
sponsors have even read the report or Goldstone's letter, but the bill
has been scheduled for a floor vote this Tuesday, in an attempt to
avoid any chance of debate or thoughtful decision.
Please also fax or email a copy of Judge Goldstone's letter here
http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/424/t/8459/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=28043
to Representatives Berman and Ros-Lehtinen to your member of Congress.
We cannot assume the letter was shared with other members.
Representatives who are on the fence are making up their minds NOW, so
your phone call is crucial!
In light of this country's commitment to the universality of human
rights, the United States should fully endorse and support the
recommendations made in the Goldstone report and use its diplomatic
weight to ensure that international institutions act upon the
recommendations. We provide $3 billion for weapons and military
equipment every year to one of the two parties alleged to have used
those weapons illegally; we have more responsibility than any other
country to ensure that serious investigations are undertaken of ALL
alleged crimes, both Israeli and Palestinian.
Let your Representative know that the way forward to peace between
Israel and Palestine must be built upon a foundation of fairness and
respect for human rights and rule of law.
Dana, Emily, Farida, Gael, Gayle, Janet, Jodie, Marina, Medea, Nancy,
Paris, Rae, Suzanne, and Whitney
P.S. Week of Action! On November 4th, 2008 the Israeli military broke
a four-month cease-fire with Hamas. Low-intensity warfare and an
ongoing crippling siege then continued until Israel's Dec. 27-Jan 18
assault on the Gaza Strip. Today, the situation in Gaza has
deteriorated even further, with 1.5 million civilians continuing to
live amidst rubble, dependent on inadequate UN food deliveries,
lacking even hearing aids and school books. Use the strategies and
tools provided by the US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation to
shine light on the issue and end Israel's illegal siege on Gaza!
lorad
> HAMAS war crimes caused the conflict and they will be ignored, that is the
> problem.
>
> > The truth is that the Goldstone Report is a well-researched, fair-
> > minded report. It accuses both Israel and Hamas of war crimes and
> > possible crimes against humanity during the attack on Gaza, and it
> > calls on Israel and Hamas to conduct credible, independent
> > investigations or face the International Criminal Court.
>
> --
> not one as irrational as anti-Semitism. … If the Jews are rich [these
> fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of
> ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take
> advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it
> is because they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew dwells
> in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to
>
> Lloyd George
The discussion was about Isreali war crimes - not about your
fantasies.
Stick to the subject.
John Fisher
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Thank you for your support!!! I'm sure you are aware of the
importance of truthful revalations by a self professed Zionist. This
is related, exactly, to the criminal state of Israel. FACTS are what
this is all about Lloyd, not the "fantasies" which the discussion
seems to have evoked in your mind.
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/specialsession/9/FactF...
John Fisher
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November 3, 2009, Congressman Dennis Kucinich addresses H.RES. 867 on
the House Floor. H.RES. 867 condemns the UN Goldstone Gaza Fact
Finding Mission Report.
Congressman Kucinich stated:
"Today we journey from Operation Cast Lead to Operation Cast Doubt.
Almost as serious as committing war crimes is covering up war crimes,
pretending that war crimes were never committed and did not exist."
"Because behind every such deception is the nullification of humanity,
the destruction of human dignity, the annihilation of the human
spirit, the triumph of Orwellian thinking, the eternal prison of the
dark heart of the totalitarian."
"Because behind every such deception is the nullification of humanity,
the destruction of human dignity, the annihilation of the human
spirit, the triumph of Orwellian thinking, the eternal prison of the
dark heart of the totalitarian."
"The resolution before us today, which would reject all attempts of
the Goldstone Report to fix responsibility of all parties to war
crimes, including both Hamas and Israel, may as well be called the
"Down is Up, Night is Day, Wrong is Right: resolution."
"Because if this Congress votes to condemn a report it has not read,
concerning events it has totally ignored, about violations of law of
which it is unaware, it will have brought shame to this great
institution."
"How can we ever expect there to be peace in the Middle East if we
tacitly approve of violations of international law and international
human rights, if we look the other way, or if we close our eyes to the
heartbreak of people on both sides by white-washing a legitimate
investigation?"
"How can we protect the people of Israel from existential threats if
we hold no concern for the protection of the Palestinians, for their
physical security, their right to land, their right to their own
homes, their right to water, their right to sustenance, their right to
freedom of movement, their right to human security of jobs, education
and health care?".
"We will have peace only when the plight of both Palestinians and
Israelis is brought before this House and given equal consideration in
recognition of that principle that all people on this planet have a
right to survive and thrive, and it is our responsibility, our duty to
see that no individual, no group, no people are barred from this
humble human claim."
John Fisher
>
> Last week in a political move of the most cynical kind,
> Representatives Berman (D-CA) and Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL), leadership of
> the U.S. House Foreign Relations Committee, introduced H Res 867, a
> bill that reads as though it were drafted by AIPAC, which it might
> well have been. H Res 867 is calling on the President and the
> Secretary of State to oppose unequivocally any endorsement or further
> consideration of the "Report of the United Nations Fact Finding
> Mission on the Gaza Conflict" in multilateral fora.
>
> Call your Members of Congress TODAY at 202-224-3121 and tell them to
> vote NO on this flawed legislation. If they have already co-sponsored
> the bill (check here) and tell them to withdraw their support. You can
> also email your Representative directly here!
>
> Read Judge Goldstone's detailed response here! http://codepinkalert.org/article.php?id=5148
>
> Use the US Campaign Talking Points/FAQ on the Goldstone Report
>
>
> H Res 867 is politics of the worst kind-it is a crass attempt to
> suppress not only the truth of what Israelis and Palestinians did in
> Gaza, but any discussion of the issue at all. Thankfully, Judge
> Goldstone has sent a detailed response, http://codepinkalert.org/article.php?id=5148
> which exposes the serious factual errors, mischaracterizations and
> blatant lies contained in the resolution. It is doubtful that the co-
> sponsors have even read the report or Goldstone's letter, but the bill
> has been scheduled for a floor vote this Tuesday, in an attempt to
> avoid any chance of debate or thoughtful decision.
>
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November 3, 2009, Congressman Dennis Kucinich addresses H.RES. 867 on
John Fisher
(1) Israel destroys 2 more Palestinian homes. Press TV, Nov 3, 2009.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=110326§ionid=351020202
(2) Clinton slams Israel for evicting Arab families from East
Jerusalem, Haaretz, Aug 4, 2009. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1104949.html
markj...@yahoo.com
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Jewish Voice for Peace Are Pussys
They have a group in Philly and they don't want any discussion that is
different then theirs. They don't want to hear another side, That says
it all
I think it comes down to this all the time. Israel has a tiny country
and the Arabs who support the pals have tens of countries and most of
the land and oil. I think its quite fair for Isarel to be able to have
their own country there cause they lived there and British sold them
the land and if you want to rewrite history then rewrite all the bad
things that jews had to endure . But since thats not going to happen,
Israelies have every right to defend themselves with a whole one
percent from people who promise its destruction. I never understood
why people complain when they promise their destruction that Israel is
using too much force. I guess Israel should knock down the walls that
protect innocent citizens just so they can allow the Pals to bomb at
will and say Israel has equalized the playing field. If the pals want
peace Israel will talk if not they won't. I certainly would not want
to live in Israel with the nuts in the ARAB world wanting it all all
the time. They want everyone to be like them or else its suicide time
John Fisher
wrote:
Listening to your argument, it somehow reminds me of the control the
Vatican holds over our Supreme Court and legislators. "They want
everyone to be like them or else its suicide time", as you say,
forcing women to be denied the right to choose. They even deny the
woman's right to live in favor of a fetus.. Unfortunately, people are
governed more by belief than other, better considered, realities. We
have 5 Catholic judges, on the Supreme Court, who live under the
threat of excommunication if they rule in favor of a woman's right to
choose. We have blue dog democrats and other right wingers
(republicans) who are afraid to vote on a health care plan which would
cover womans helath because they, too, are subject to excommunication
if they do so. As for mortality rates of infants, this country stands
in 37th place. I often wonder whether these deaths might be prevented
if people paid more attention to that figure than they do to the
riddance of parasites which take control of a woman's body even though
that woman wishes to be rid of them.
AIPAC is another force, in this country, which has great influence
over legislators. No one is denying Israel its right to exist based
on realities of the law. Its right to expansion and continuing
criminal acts against humanity are not included in its right to
exist. It's excuses, LIES and false flag operations quickly come to
light under the scrutiny of people who are able to report them when
media covers up, obscures, or lacks the balls to report the truth.
As for "Jewish Voice for Peace", I can't agree with your
assessment!!! It appears that you are the one who does not care to
hear other sides of the argument. Fortunately, the voice of others is
gaining momentum and they will not be silenced. Stay tuned in!!=:)
John Fisher
markj...@yahoo.com
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They are like the pussys that played music in front of the
concentration camps. I say if they like the pals to go join up with
them see how long they last. If this was a popularity contest jews
always lose , so thats not a surprise.
This is quite simple , I am open for discussion they are not. They
don't want to hear how Israel has one percent and the Arabs have 99
percent of everything.If they think the Israelis are doing it to the
pals, then seriously they need to go to Palestine . What the Israels
have is way fair considering the other side promises its destruction.
The logic is way easy for the jewish activists to not want another
side of the story..
John Fisher
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Mark. it appears that you are not "open to discussion"!!!!=:) Your
OPINION belongs to you alone!!!=:) Mine is that Israel is a criminal
state and that it's criminality should not be swept under the rug!!!
The stench is overwhelming!!!! Worse even than the air about which
seems to occupy most of your waking hours!!!-:)
kyb...@mail.med.upenn.edu
Look, the only reason you are now saying they you are willing to
discuss
other rogue states and people is because *I* challenged you to discuss
them.
From my POV the only state you recognize as "going off the rails"
is Israel.
I mean I don't expect to ever hear one word on this newgroup about,
say, Myanmar from you.
John Fisher
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The TOPIC has to do with the criminal state of Israel!!! If the topic
were Myanmar, or other interests, I don't expect that I would try to
change the subject!!
Topaz
JEWS - GUTLESS MURDERING COWARDS - OR VALIANT MEN?
by Joseph Cortina
Here are some interesting facts regarding the TRUTH of the matter. You
decide for your self.
I had the opportunity to personally witness one of the most cowardly
acts attributable to ANY ethnicity - but apparently, as countless
eyewitness records show - what I saw was typical for the Jew - and
certainly one of the most repugnant disgusting acts of cowardice. I
discovered later that what I witnessed took place on a daily basis.
Remember - a coward is not necessarily the 'Casper Milktoast' profile.
Virtually all bullies are in reality cowards - as they always pick on
the weakest and most defenseless.
When with the intel community In IsraHELL several years ago I had the
opportunity to be part of a group that went inside the Jew occupied
concentration camp we call Gaza ( Palestine). While our Embassy van
escorted by a Jew IDF jeep with heavily armed paras, reached the
outskirts of Gaza City - which the Jews had completely demolished into
rubble - the jeep stopped abruptly in front of us and the soldier on
the rear of the jeep jumped out and dropped to a kneeling firing
position - arming his rifle as he did so.
The 'enemy' - a seven or eight year old Palestinian child -
undoubtedly an orphan of murdered parents, stood at the edge of the
road - tears rolling down his quivering cheeks - with his hand held
high in defiance of his tormentors - holding an egg sized pebble. Our
vehicle had by then also stopped and I instinctively jumped out -
'armed' with my CIA issue model 35mm Canon camera.
In 3-4 strides I was almost next to the Jew baby killer, who by this
time had aimed at the head of the defenseless child and was about to
murder him on the spot. Apparently my motion caught the corner of his
eye and he turned his head to me for an instant. I aimed my camera at
him and muttered loud enough fro him to hear; " if you murder that
child - you better kill all of us - because the world will see these
pictures" At the same time I gave this cowardly Jew bastard the
universal 'middle finger gesture. He uttered something to me and
angrily stood down - retreating to his jeep.
I breathed a sigh of relief and went back inside the embassy van. One
of the agents inside said: "You know - you just saved that child's
life" Another passenger immediately retorted: - " yea - but it won't
matter anyway - that kid will probably not live another week anyway -
they routinely shoot these Palestinian children here for target
practice".
I never forgot that vision or the cowardly sadistic nature of the Jew.
Had he murdered that child and had I been armed - there is NO doubt in
my mind that I would have shot that cowardly scum on the spot. Such is
the cowardly nature of the Jew. These cold-blooded murders of helpless
civilian men women and children are well documented and continue to
this day. There is an old saying: "a wolf never jumps on another wolf"
Like the Jew - he is an opportunistic predator seeking out the
helpless - aged or injured.
The criminal acts of cowardice by the Jew military (the IDF - which is
IN FACT the largest institutionalized terrorist group in the world)
are as numerous as they are disgusting. In the recent attack on the
virtually defenseless Lebanon (a mostly Christian nation incidentally)
the cowardly Jews shelled tens of thousands of fleeing terrified
civilian refugees - mostly helpless children - with the most horrific
weapons ever invented - heavy artillery fire utilizing NOT ONLY 'HE'
(high explosives) but the Geneva Convention outlawed WP (white
phosphorous) and the most diabolic killing tool ever conceived -
Cluster Bombs - responsible for more civilian casualties than any
other 'ground delivered' ordinance.
These cowardly Jews are so sadistic that they had their children
present at the safe artillery sites - ACTUALLY WRITING HATE SLOGANS ON
THESE 155 mm shells that would soon turn living children into pieces
of raw meat. Some of these slogans read: " with love - from the
children of Israel to the children of Lebanon". These cowardly Jews
actually targeted terrified refuge columns. This incredible cowardly
Jew outrage is ALSO WELL DOCUMENTED.
There is not enough room in one article to enumerate all of the
recorded acts of cowardice by the Jew - but it should give you a good
idea. Now - lets take a good hard DOCUMENTED FACTUAL look at the
record of Jew 'heroism' in the USA military.
What better yardstick of valor than the coveted US Congressional Medal
of Honor. Let me preface these statistics with some other relevant
facts about the character of the Jew. Let the Jews howl all they want
when they read these FACTS - as they have never been able to handle
TRUTH, as lies -duplicity - treason and deception have historically -
for MILLENIA - been their MO for business - diplomacy - 'religion' and
everyday aspects of life. Even the official motto of their terrorist
military reveals their TRUE nature:
"BY DECEPTION WE WAGE WAR"
FACT: wherever there was dissention and troublemakers ALWAYS siding
with our Communist mortal enemies - the provocateurs were always JEWS!
FACT: although only some 3 % of the Soviet population - over 50% of
the Communist commissars were JEWS!
FACT: Although only about 3-4% of the American population - the Jew
comprised some 75% of the treasonous American Communist Party (CPUSA)
FACT: This same Jewish 3-4% low percentage comprises virtually 100% of
the pornography filth in the USA
FACT: Virtually ALL infanticide (child murder) support in America is
from JEWS. Not surprisingly these 'self-chosen' cowards murder nearly
20% of all live born infants in IsraHELL.
FACT: Virtually ALL homosexual /pedophile organization support,
membership, funding in America is from the JEW.
FACT: over 80% of the world's crime syndicates are JEWS!
FACT: over 80% of the Jews in my country are Atheist and members of
the Democrat Party (which in essence is indistinguishable from the
CPUSA which consistently supports Dem. Presidential candidates)
FACT: over 98% of organized worldwide prostitution is funded,
organized, operated by JEWS!
But - now lets get back to the matter of documented JEW 'bravery' and
the Medal of Honor.
Remember - we non Jews are (to the Jew, nothing but cattle - or 'GOY',
as they refer to us - and the Jew in his superior arrogant mind - is
the 'CHOSEN' CHECK THIS OUT!
WWI ----- GOY = 124 CHOSEN = 3 2.4%
WWII ----- GOY = 462 CHOSEN = 3 LESS THAN 1% KOREA ----GOY = 131
CHOSEN= 0 0% NADA! NONE!
VIETNAM--- GOY = 245 CHOSEN = 2 LESS THAN 1%
We could even include the Civil War where the 'Self-Chosen' are always
first in line to shrilly scream their support for civil rights - Black
equality - emancipation etc etc. Wanna see these facts too? CIVIL WAR
--Goy = 1522 CHOSEN = 12 AGAIN - LESS THAN 1%
So much for the Jew who apparently is great at talking the talk - but
pretty yellow when it comes to 'walking the walk'. Mmnn ? gotta wonder
what all these 'brave' Jews were thinking during WWII when their
fellow 'chosen' were paying for their crimes in German prisons.
I think I knew the answer. They were too busy seducing our daughters
and bedding down our wives while we were in foxholes doing a MAN"S job
for them. OH and BTW -= THAT is WELL documented! Of course- in
fairness to the 'chosen' - they had better things to do than risk
their precious kike butts. Like making lots of war profit - staffing
communist organizations - producing porn filth - inciting hate against
anti-Communism - destroying the family unit and of course waging their
ceaseless battle against true Christianity. And of course - as we know
today - thanks to their tireless efforts - our America is now nothing
less than a morally rotted corpse - dysfunctional - rudderless -
greedy - secular Godless shadow of it's former goodness.
As a personal note: One of the assignments I had in the military was
to train combat troops for Vietnam and especially for the then looming
early 60s Berlin Crisis - we were getting ready for war with the Jew's
good friends - the COMMUNISTS! For thirteen straight months - 6 days a
week - 12 hours a day, I and other men of that period churned out as
many disciplined well trained - well motivated young warriors as
possible. Close to a thousand young men that knew by sight and name at
one time ( I was their company commander) Guess what? There was not
one Berg - Goldstein - Silverman - Weiss - Cohen - Ruben - Hoffman or
ANY other 'chosen' - NOT ONE. Just a coincidence, of course.
Just as an afterthought - BUT CRITICALLY IMPORTANT!. ===== Casualties
from our Jew incited serial wars - *60,000+ and I predict over 100,000
before we wake up and figure out who the REAL enemy is and stop
murdering IsraHELL's enemies.
Innocent Civilians we have murdered for the Jew - ONE MILLION + SO FAR
Innocent civilians we have made homeless for the Jew - OVER THREE
MILLION - SO FAR BTW- THAT IS MUCH CLOSER TO THE REAL FIGURE - OR ARE
YOU STILL STUPID ENOUGH TO BUY MORE LIES FROM OUR JEW GOVERNMENT AND
JEW PRESIDENT AND HIS JEW CRIMINAL CABAL OF TRAITORS? HOW HUCH MORE
DEATH AND DESTRUCTION DO YOU NEED? WAKE UP!
JC
http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/
http://www.natvan.com http://www.nsm88.org
http://heretical.com/ http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/
Dave Heil
Joseph Cortina is a construct. He isn't a real person. He does not
exist. You cannot offer proof of his existence. You cannot show us a
photograph. You cannot verify his employment.
You, Topaz, continue to be a liar and the events described above never
took place.
American Eagle
Post your proof or shut the fuck up! We all have seen the Genocide in
Gaza on public TV. It is long past time for America to remove all
support of Israel and to demand trials for Jewish inhumanity. Sans
that...An invasion of Israel, such as Israel keeps demanding we do to
Iran. A country that has attacked no one.
markj...@yahoo.com
I still think the arabs need 100 percent of everything, Thank the jews
for letting people like you in this country lol
When you tell me the names of the owners of coal companies and
tobacco companies that killed a few more people then pornographers,
not that you don't ever use those things , you might sound objective,
I mean if your into comparing... considering we had the program, the
crusades and holocaust, and inquistion, how many were jw run?
Jws alway run death camps .all over the world....
Also how many times did I see my jew friends go after arabs or non
jews? Can you say 0? Thats the problem guy you can't handle
comparisons,
How many jews are murdering people in the US via violent crime?
How come if jews control gov we imported millions of people like
you? ???
How come we are still dependent on Jew oil? lol
How come Jews are called communists if for peace or if they are for
bush neo conservatives who got us in war with Iraq?
I guess they can't win can they? Oh baby at least your objective and
compare all the non jew crimes.
Topaz
Nobel laureate Solzhenitsyn verifies what others have written in the
past - Jews were the sine qua non of the Bolshevik revolution and the
70 year nightmare of terror that followed.
The End Of Legends
200 Years Together: Jews In The Soviet Union
9/11/2006
Book Review
The End of the Legends
By Wolfgang Strauss
Alexander Solschenitsyn, "200 Jahre zusammen." Die russisch-j=FCdische
Geschichte 1795-1916 (200 Years Together. The Russian-Jewish History
1795- 1916), Herbig, Munich 2002, 560 pp., _34.90; "Zweihundert Jahre
zusammen," Die Juden in der Sowjetunion (200 Years Together. The Jews
in the Soviet Union), ibidem, 2003, 608 pp., _39.90.
It may be said without hesitation that Alexander Solzhenitsyn's 200
Years Together - The Jews in the Soviet Union is one of the most
important books on the Russian Revolution and the early Bolshevik
period ever to appear. After publication of this work with its many
revelations about the role of the Jews during the Leninist period, the
history of the Bolshevik October putsch will have to be rewritten, if
not completely, then with substantial additions.
The book title might have been even more appropriately called "The End
of the Legends." For example, the legend that there ever existed an
independent "Russian" Social Democracy Party is questioned. Founded in
Minsk in 1898, the Russian Social Democratic Workers Party (RSDWP)
derived, with respect to personnel and organization, from the
Allgemeine j=FCdische Arbeiterbund in Lithuania, Poland, and Russia.
It might be said that the Jewish Arbeiterbund midwife service
officiated at the birth of the Russian Social Democracy Party. Legends
without number are examined.
Solzhenitsyn emphasizes, "Many more Jewish voices than Russian are
heard in this book". Jewish voices, not Russian, speak of Jewish
dominance in the anti- monarchial movements in the period before the
war. In an article entitled "The Jewish Revolution" in the 10 December
1919 issue of the Neue J=FCdischen Monatsheften, published in Berlin,
was the sentence:
"Regardless of how extremely the anti-Semites exaggerate it, and how
so nervously the Jewish bourgeoisie deny it, the large Jewish
contingent in today's revolutionary movement stands fast."�
http://www.vho.org/tr/2004/3/Strauss342-351.html
kyb...@mail.med.upenn.edu
And, ONCE MORE, why in heck is it always about Israel when
ugly things happen world-wide? START talking about these
other things and I'll believe you actually care about them. So
far I'm not convinced that you do.
Why not spare some of your time to discuss the latest I heard this
morning about black/hidden prisons
where the Chinese government is keeping people who have the courage
to protest against their government. China really doesn't have the
rule of law. Yet the fact that it doesn't, and how it actually treats
its over 1 billion citizens, doesn't matter a jot to you. You never
discuss
these things or ever bring them up as a topic for discussion. I find
that odd.
At least you don't talk these things here.
> If the topic
> were Myanmar, or other interests, I don't expect that I would try to
> change the subject!!
So start a topic about Myanmar. But, well, you haven't because you
never
think about Myanmar, do you? But you're obsessed with Joe Lieberman
and Israel.
Jack, you know perfectly well that EXPANDING topics/threads happens a
lot
on usenet and always has.
It's all part of how people people TALK on here. They stray. They
challenge. They
debate. They reference other things to support their arguments.
All I'm saying to you is you single out Israel as the enemy of the
world
but you, for instance, leave China alone. Why? China IS going to
control our destiny in
this century. Israel, with 6-7 million population, isn't no matter
what
happens with the Palestinian question.
Truthfully, if the goddam politicians, on both sides, would just get
out
of the way, I think the Jewish and Palestinian peoples could solve
this. After all they are cousins. It should work if they want it to.
art clemons
> And, ONCE MORE, why in heck is it always about Israel when
> ugly things happen world-wide? START talking about these
> other things and I'll believe you actually care about them. So
> far I'm not convinced that you do.
The problem with this argument is that any nation focused upon can always
claim that it is being singled out. China for example claims that the Dalai
Lama is a criminal and a disruptor of attempts to unify China, in Zimbawe,
Mugabe claims to be putting down criminals. It may seem unfair to you but
Israel performs acts which can be criticized.
> Why not spare some of your time to discuss the latest I heard this
> morning about black/hidden prisons
> where the Chinese government is keeping people who have the courage
> to protest against their government. China really doesn't have the
> rule of law. Yet the fact that it doesn't, and how it actually treats
> its over 1 billion citizens, doesn't matter a jot to you. You never
> discuss
> these things or ever bring them up as a topic for discussion. I find
> that odd.
> At least you don't talk these things here.
The Chinese situation is more complicated than you make it out to be. It
appears to be local and provincial governments which are acting to prevent
protest of their actions presently and not the Chinese equivalent of the
federal government here. The US has about zero influence over what China is
doing. You're suggesting a pointless act just so folks can claim they
oppose injustice worldwide.
Israel's actions also cannot occur without the tacit support of the US
government, which at the very least implies that the injustice in the West
Bank and in Gaza are subject to change if the US actually tries to stop said
injustices.
Can you actually defend what Israel is doing without glossing over a huge
series of injustices? While Israel states that the UN report is biased, it
doesn't bother to rebut the claims and it also definitely cannot claim that
the report is the work of an anti-Semite. I suggest that Israel is no more
immune to criticism than the US.
John Fisher
>
> - Show quoted text -
Immediately, Karen, my goal is to have the criminal state of Israel
condemned for it's actions. If the moment presents itself, which
draws me into conversations regarding Myanmar, or any other topic
which I feel the need to address, you'll find that I am there!! In
the meantime, I'll stick to the subject at hand.
I agree that politicians, on both sides, who have infiltrated our
government are responsible for much of the anxiety existing in the
Middle East. Their motivation appears to be financial interests of
the military/industrial complex and the religious fanatics who have
too much influence on OUR government which SUPPOSEDLY separates
matters of church and state. Currently, with 5 Cathotlics on the
Supreme Court, who are subject to excommunication if they take a
position which is adverse to their churches rationale. Consider,
also, the numbers of others who are subject to the same discipline,
and who are willing to commit murder in order to enforce/advance
edicts of churches.
Politicians who (IMNSVHO) who have conflicting interests (like
Lieberman) should not hold positions which have to do wtih judgments
when it comes to national security. It is my belief that he will do
anything to shelter and advance the goals of Israel's expansionistic
operations. In an effort to demean Muslims, I have no doubt that he
willl use the current event at Ft Hood to further create animosity and
advance causes to justify the criminal practices of Israel.
kyb...@mail.med.upenn.edu
>
> Politicians who (IMNSVHO) who have conflicting interests (like
> Lieberman) should not hold positions which have to do wtih judgments
> when it comes to national security. It is my belief that he will do
> anything to shelter and advance the goals of Israel's expansionistic
> operations. In an effort to demean Muslims, I have no doubt that he
> willl use the current event at Ft Hood to further create animosity and
> advance causes to justify the criminal practices of Israel.
Using another powerful Jew as an example, Rahm Emanuel has just as
many conflicting interests
so following your logic he shouldn't be in a position wrt judgments
regarding national
security.
The difference between him and Lieberman is that Lieberman was ELECTED
by the
people of Connecticut to be one of their Senators. It's a position he
holds by their
pleasure. Someone sitting in Phila.(us) has no power over him.
John Fisher
His position on the United States Senate Committee on Homeland
Security and Governmental Affairs can, and should be, be taken from
him. Sufficient clamour by citizens and legislators can have him
removed from that position regardless of the voters in Connecticut.
As for Rahm Emanuel, I keep a close watch on him. If it comes to the
point where it is obvious that he supports Israel interests over U.S.
interests, my objection will be as persistent, then, as it is to
Lieberman now. Immediately, I trust President Obama's use of
Emanuel's services.
kyb...@mail.med.upenn.edu
> On Nov 13, 8:59 am, kyb...@mail.med.upenn.edu wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 12, 1:40 pm, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > Politicians who (IMNSVHO) who have conflicting interests (like
> > > Lieberman) should not hold positions which have to do wtih judgments
> > > when it comes to national security. It is my belief that he will do
> > > anything to shelter and advance the goals of Israel's expansionistic
> > > operations. In an effort to demean Muslims, I have no doubt that he
> > > willl use the current event at Ft Hood to further create animosity and
> > > advance causes to justify the criminal practices of Israel.
>
> > Using another powerful Jew as an example, Rahm Emanuel has just as
> > many conflicting interests
> > so following your logic he shouldn't be in a position wrt judgments
> > regarding national
> > security.
>
> > The difference between him and Lieberman is that Lieberman was ELECTED
> > by the
> > people of Connecticut to be one of their Senators. It's a position he
> > holds by their
> > pleasure. Someone sitting in Phila.(us) has no power over him.
>
> His position on the United States Senate Committee on Homeland
> Security and Governmental Affairs can, and should be, be taken from
> him. Sufficient clamour by citizens and legislators can have him
> removed from that position regardless of the voters in Connecticut.
But, they haven't so far, have they? And is there sufficient clamour
by
anyone, other than "outsiders" like you, to remove him? I grant you
the guy can appear to be pain-in-the-ass but I've read about no
serious
attempt at removing him from any senate committee.
'Course you haven't even addressed what I brought up a few posts back
in
that you probably voted for him back in 2000 as VP. Pretty ironic
that you hate his guts now. I actually find it amusing in a twisted
way.
> As for Rahm Emanuel, I keep a close watch on him.
The fact that nobody elected him to his current position is reason
enough to do that.
> If it comes to the
> point where it is obvious that he supports Israel interests over U.S.
> interests, my objection will be as persistent, then, as it is to
> Lieberman now. Immediately, I trust President Obama's use of
> Emanuel's services.
Yeah, you have blind trust/faith in Obama. I find that silly but
that's just me.
Obama isn't a genius. He's flawed like the rest of us.
Day Brown
go, "sea peoples" have arrived on the SE Mediterranean shores to setup
business. Then, after Trajan hauled the original landowners off to Rome,
the place was run next by the Byzantines, Sultans, Ottomans, Brits, and
now the "Israelis". Not once in those nearly 2000 years has the native
population actually run the place. And when we look at whats going on in
Gaza and the West Bank, its easy to see why. Too many chiefs, not enuf
Indians. Some gene pools are like that; require draconian control.
Herodutus noted the dissension of the "Scythians", his term for the
Northern Europeans, and how, if they ever united, they'd rule the world.
Well, they are doing that. North America & Europe, NATO & transnationals
form a defacto republic, with "Israel" as a beach head colony in a part
of the world that has always been problematic to Aryan agendas.
Originally, it was the ports from Tyre to Ashkalar that were western
terminals of the Silk Road that Aryans wanted to control. But now there
is the oil. And should it ever become necessary to seize Saudi oil
fields, its just a few hours by tank from the Israeli Negev. So, there
is no real difference between Israeli and US (or EU or Nato) agendas.
But if John and the rest of the anti-Semites make it look like we are
not in fact united, well... thats fine.
John Fisher
>
> - Show quoted text -
Karen, I have blind trust/faith in no man!!! What I do have is
respect for our duly elected president and have faith that he is doing
his best to bring this once greater nation up from the depths to which
it plunged under the Republicans. We went thru a similar experience
when Carter was in office where roadblocks were constantly set up to
bring him down. The military industrial complex, along with religion,
are powerful forces which motivate hatred for anyone standing in the
way of profit and their power. As far as I'm concerned, Carter was
one of our greatest of presidents.
As for Lieberman, I must say that I hadn't paid much attention to him
in the Y2K election but did endorse the top of the ticket. Had I been
an anti=semite that would have been an influence. I am not!!!=:) I
was infuriated at the result of that election (still am) and the coup
which gave us a disastrous result. Perhaps, in a way, we are lucky.
Had Gore become president, being aware of Israel's behavior, and false
flag operations, I often think his life wouldn't have been worth a
nickle and that Israel would have much more influence than might have
resulted.
There is a movement to take down Lieberman!! I am part of that
movement just as I am in seeking justice for the people who were
betrayed by the criminal actions of the Bush/Cheney/Rice
administration. > > His (Lieberman;s) position on the United States
Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs can,
and should be, be taken from him. Sufficient clamour by citizens and
legislators can have him removed from that position regardless of the
voters in Connecticut. In addition, I don't believe he will succeed
in any attempt to be re-elected by the voters of Connecticut. I
surely don't trust him in the investigation of the Ft. Hood tragedy
and expect he will use it only to further his war mongering interests.
Sorry for the delay in responding. Have just been too busy.