>> >> You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you plan on
>> >> living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of
>> >> mankind,
>> >> you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?
>> >> -Eddie Haskell
>> > Eh. Don't worry about it.
>> > Let's suppose that Ramon is correct, that the uneducated dependent
>> > population in places like Texas at some point becomes large enough there
>> > and in other states that there's no way that a party that *doesn't*
>> > simply support all handouts to the wastrels can get elected.
>> > What happens?
>> > Money just starts flowing out of the country. To me, "America" isn't as
>> > much a place as it is an experiment in freedom. If the statists succeed
>> > in killing off that experiment, one simply takes ones assets, slides
>> > their passport under the door, and moves on to a place that *does*
>> > reward free market initative. If the current situation, where nearly 50%
>> > of the population is on a dole, and we keep borrowing money from our
>> > kids to PAY for those doles (and a lot of other things, or course)
>> > persists, it becomes morally impossible to stay here.
>> > The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it grows every year
>> > as the US sinks lower in ratings of economic freedom:
>> Bwahahahahahahaha! Two rightard think tanks rating "economic freedom."
>> Do you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of
>> bankruptcy here is medical bills?
>> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
>> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH !!!!!! So, tell us. How long before Hussein
>rides in on his white and "fixes" the "crisis" caused by the failing
>of so many private insurance companies that are FORCED to insure
>anybody with a pre-existing condition or never bothered to buy health
>insurance until they were dieing with cancer? Dear Leader will FINALLY
>get his cherished "single payer" plan.
>Instead of destroying the best healthcare system on the planet why not
>let the government provide insurance for those that are uninsurable??
Before Obamacare a retired military veteran had to pay around $600 a
year in insurance premiums.
Now those same vets will see their premiums rise to over $2,200 a
year.
But assholes like "deadrat" and Ramon likely are in love with that
thought since they want the military disbanded completely.
> > Can't speak for my Black amigos, but we Latinos are not asking for
> > freebies. Just a few green cards (*).
> > They will make their millions on their own, thank you very much.
> > To bad you don't even understand, let alone believe in capitalism.
> If any of that were true you'd be a republican.
> You vote democrat for freebies.
> All I am getting is a free sticker: "I love Obamacare" - That's it.
Why don't you get one that says "I'm an idiot" and just get it over with?
> See actual reason below...
> One wonders: Which is the party where hatred is most concentrated and
> distilled?
> The only ones qualified to make a statement are the victims of
> prejudice, persecution and racism themselves.
Nice excuse lie for voting for freebies.
> Let's ask them, shall
> we?
> Here's their response:
> - Black folks voted for Obama, by a 98% margin.
Low IQ and vote for freebies like I said.
"I'll have those niggers voting democrat for the next 200 years."
-Lyndon Johnson
Decades later illegitimacy has destroyed the black family and community. The Negro response? Vote for more self destruction having been addicted to freebies. Democrats are like a crack dealer praying on kids at a school. Why do you support that? Oh, yeah, third-world and corrupted by freebies yourself.
> - Jewish folks voted for Obama, by a 75% margin.
Corrupt and vote self interest. Trial lawyers and the like..
> - Hispanic folks voted for Obama, by a 66% margin.
Low IQ and vote for freebies like I said. See above.
> - Asian folks voted for Obama, by a 63% margin.
Don't know any better.
> - Gay folks voted for Obama, by an unknown margin.
Single issue vote without regard for America or civilization itself.
Thanks to the fascist MSM / DNC cabal's invented "war on women" to cover for the democrat's war on religious liberty.
So see? You celebrate the success of fascist lies, a war on religious liberty and the rule of law and then wonder why everything you control turns into total shit. It's because you are third-world and unfit to be an American.
>>> Do you have an idea who handles the US-Latin America trade? Ever been
>>> to Miami?
>>> -Ramon
>> The people who do well in business are the ones who accept individual
>> responsibility for themselves and not the ones who live off the government
>> dole, whether they are Latinos or not. But do you understand that they are
>> following the principles extolled and backed by the Republican oarty when
>> they do this? The socialist democrats would have them all on the
>> government dole if they had their way. It is a policy designed to destroy
>> free enterprise and individual entrepeneurship. How can you extoll the
>> virtues of starting and operating one's own business, and still call
>> yourself a good Democrat? - This doesn't make sense to me.
> Simple, democrats dole out the freebies and he's bought and paid for. All
> else is a lie. It's the third-world way.
> It's like we always hear about blacks and their conservative values and yet
> they always vote democrat 90%. Why? <snip/>
On Jul 23, 1:16 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Do you agree with US businesses (and churches) on immigration???
> Depends on the specific issue.
All you had to do was scroll down, to see the specific issue. Please
try again.
Fact:
- All US businesses
- All US churches
- Rupert Murdoch and his gang
Are close allies, on immigration
From the ECONOMIC point of view, there is no possible discussion and
the issue is settled. The pro-immigrants win. Therefore, the only
reason to reject a Path to Legalization is RACISM (*).
-Ramon
(*) Another possible reason for the rejection would be an extreme law-
and-order type of conservatives whose position has NOTHING to do with
race. I am told such mythical animal exists ... have yet to meet the
first one. Take The Phantom: For a few weeks he swore he was not
racist but his true nature betrayed him. I have seen LOTS of people
like him: eventually they explode, their hatred cannot be contained.
API regulars are a perfect example.
> Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> "Bill Graham" <w...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:mrydnZOeM7JhGJDNnZ2dnUVZ5sqdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>>> In California, the Republican Party is dying a slow, sad death - But
>>>> there is something to celebrate!!
>>>> ... Arizona is next, followed by Texas (the crown jewel)
>>> The Republican Party died in California many years ago, but Arizona
>>> and Texas? - I don't think so. Unless it is taken over by the Tea
>>> Party.... We will rise again!!
>> Do you believe in the rule of law and limited government? If so how
>> is it that the left has you smearing your own side, you pathetic,
>> worthless, gutless cowardly fucking idiot?
>> Goddamn, we don't need enemies..
>> Sniveling yella-bellied fucking coward. The left owns the MSM and
>> public perception so you play to it like a little chickenshit. Flap
>> your elbows and dance around for us, chicken boy.
>> Bock bock bock ba-cock!
>> -Eddie Haskell
> How am I "smearing my own party principles"? I believe in indeividual > responsibility, and don't want the government to put people on the dole > and steal fr4om those who have to give tpo the bums. That is the way I was > raised by a very Republican father. Tell me where I have stated otherwide, > either on this forum or elsewhere. I worked and saved and invested in > Ameriucan business all of my life. I respect people who do that and don't > live off the government. In my experience the Larino community does > exactly that. They come here to have a better life, and they work like > hell for it. It's the hippie bums living down under the freeway > underpasses that are happy living off the government hand-outs. These are > the ones I would like to see shipped out to Mexico. (or anywhere else > other than here) Why is this a reversal of my Republican principles?
>>>> Do you have an idea who handles the US-Latin America trade? Ever been
>>>> to Miami?
>>>> -Ramon
>>> The people who do well in business are the ones who accept individual
>>> responsibility for themselves and not the ones who live off the government
>>> dole, whether they are Latinos or not. But do you understand that they are
>>> following the principles extolled and backed by the Republican oarty when
>>> they do this? The socialist democrats would have them all on the
>>> government dole if they had their way. It is a policy designed to destroy
>>> free enterprise and individual entrepeneurship. How can you extoll the
>>> virtues of starting and operating one's own business, and still call
>>> yourself a good Democrat? - This doesn't make sense to me.
>> Simple, democrats dole out the freebies and he's bought and paid for. All
>> else is a lie. It's the third-world way.
>> It's like we always hear about blacks and their conservative values and yet
>> they always vote democrat 90%. Why? <snip/>
>How about you look in the mirror?
What freebies do you think any of us have ever voted for dumbass?
Just because that's all you look for in a candidate just like you look
for the best bargains at the dollar store doesn't mean that everyone
is only looking out for their own greedy self interests.
> How am I "smearing my own party principles"? I believe in individual
> responsibility, and don't want the government to put people on the dole > and
> steal from those who have to give to the bums. That is the way I was
> raised by a very Republican father. Tell me where I have stated otherwise,
> either on this forum or elsewhere. I worked and saved and invested in
> American business all of my life. I respect people who do that and don't
> live off the government. In my experience the Latino community does > exactly
> that. They come here to have a better life, and they work like hell for > it.
> It's the hippie bums living down under the freeway underpasses that are
> happy living off the government hand-outs. These are the ones I would like
> to see shipped out to Mexico. (or anywhere else other than here) Why is > this
> a reversal of my Republican principles?
========= Bil Graham 4 Prez!!!! =========
========= Viva Bill Graham!!!!! =========
> Votemos todos por Bill!!!
We speak English in this country, you un-American wet back.
> >> You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you plan > >> on
> >> living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of
> >> mankind,
> >> you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?
> >> -Eddie Haskell
> > Eh. Don't worry about it.
> > Let's suppose that Ramon is correct, that the uneducated dependent
> > population in places like Texas at some point becomes large enough there
> > and in other states that there's no way that a party that *doesn't*
> > simply support all handouts to the wastrels can get elected.
> > What happens?
> > Money just starts flowing out of the country. To me, "America" isn't as
> > much a place as it is an experiment in freedom. If the statists succeed
> > in killing off that experiment, one simply takes ones assets, slides
> > their passport under the door, and moves on to a place that *does*
> > reward free market initative. If the current situation, where nearly 50%
> > of the population is on a dole, and we keep borrowing money from our
> > kids to PAY for those doles (and a lot of other things, or course)
> > persists, it becomes morally impossible to stay here.
> > The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it grows every year
> > as the US sinks lower in ratings of economic freedom:
> Bwahahahahahahaha! Two rightard think tanks rating "economic freedom."
> Do you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of
> bankruptcy here is medical bills?
> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.- > Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
> HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH !!!!!! So, tell us. How long before Hussein
> rides in on his white and "fixes" the "crisis" caused by the failing
> of so many private insurance companies that are FORCED to insure
> anybody with a pre-existing condition or never bothered to buy health
> insurance until they were dieing with cancer? Dear Leader will FINALLY
> get his cherished "single payer" plan.
Bingo. You nailed it. That's the plan. Drive the cost of insurance through the roof with all of their stupid mandates that will have the public clamoring for the public option that will put private insurance out of business.
> Instead of destroying the best healthcare system on the planet why not
> let the government provide insurance for those that are uninsurable??
You're trying to get him to think with a rhetorical question.
On Jul 23, 1:23 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/23/2012 12:40 PM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> > On Jul 23, 12:34 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Correct, I suppose. Anything other than open borders is racism,
> > these days.
> > > Kady
> > I guess there are 313 million racists in the USA,
> You'll have to ask those who say such things. Contrary to your
> objections, there are those that DO support open borders (although
> they're very good at couching such positions)
If there is a couple dozen, they may be SAFELY ignored as the
political power they hold is ZERO. Listen to the Chambers, listen to
the Churches, listen to Bloomberg+Murdoch, listen to the White House.
Care to produce a cite that unequivocally supports open borders?
Note: Number (2) happens to be unconstitutional. No need to reject it:
2. No to militarization of the border.
The only problem I have is number 6:
(6) Yes to a path to legalization without condition for undocumented
immigrants NOW.
They must be on drugs or something. In any event, THIS is THE official
Hispanic group:
On Jul 23, 12:34 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Correct, I suppose. Anything other than open borders is racism,
these days.
>
> Kady
> I guess there are 313 million racists in the USA, then.
> (1) NOBODY supports open borders.
Hahahahaha!! Of course they do. Democrats do. Stop lying like a third-world Hispanic.
> (2) NOBODY supports illegal immigration.
Hahahahaha!! Of course they do. Democrats do. Stop lying like a third-world Hispanic.
> (3) NOBODY is asking for amnesty.
Hahahahaha!! Of course they are. Illegals are. Stop lying like a third-world Hispanic.
> (4) NOBODY is offering for amnesty.
Hahahahaha!! Of course they are. Hussein himself did it when he abolished congress and issued it from on high like a third world dictator. That's how he increased his popularity among Hispanics. He took the constitution and wiped his ass on it. That's how you get the third-world vote. You turn the nation that they are living in into the third world. It's a mentality and it can't be educated out of you. That's why you are unfit to be an American.
>>>> You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you
>>>> plan on
>>>> living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of
>>>> mankind,
>>>> you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>> Eh. Don't worry about it.
>>> Let's suppose that Ramon is correct, that the uneducated dependent
>>> population in places like Texas at some point becomes large enough there
>>> and in other states that there's no way that a party that *doesn't*
>>> simply support all handouts to the wastrels can get elected.
>>> What happens?
>>> Money just starts flowing out of the country. To me, "America" isn't as
>>> much a place as it is an experiment in freedom. If the statists succeed
>>> in killing off that experiment, one simply takes ones assets, slides
>>> their passport under the door, and moves on to a place that *does*
>>> reward free market initative. If the current situation, where nearly 50%
>>> of the population is on a dole, and we keep borrowing money from our
>>> kids to PAY for those doles (and a lot of other things, or course)
>>> persists, it becomes morally impossible to stay here.
>>> The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it grows every year
>>> as the US sinks lower in ratings of economic freedom:
>> Bwahahahahahahaha! Two rightard think tanks rating "economic freedom."
> A rating of free markets requires people who understand free markets.
Bwahahahahaha! Stop it, please. I can't catch my breath. Why do you support the people who pick your pockets?
>> Do you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of
>> bankruptcy here is medical bills?
> There are over 40 different variables; why individuals declare
> bankruptcy isn't one of them. We get docked because of regulation,
> obstacles to business startup, and tax system irregularities that
> decrease efficiency.
Your blather is noted. The leading cause of bankruptcy in this country is medical bills.
>> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
>> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.
> And now you know why we don't let leftists rate economic freedom. They
> can't tell the difference between a market-oriented economy and a
> lawless state.
Somalia is the #1 "market-oriented" economy in the world. Not a government regulation or tax in sight. The ultimate rightard paradise.
> (*) Another possible reason for the rejection would be an extreme law-
> and-order type of conservatives whose position has NOTHING to do with
> race. I am told such mythical animal exists ... have yet to meet the
> first one. Take The Phantom: For a few weeks he swore he was not
> racist but his true nature betrayed him. I have seen LOTS of people
> like him: eventually they explode, their hatred cannot be contained.
> API regulars are a perfect example.
> On 07/23/2012 12:28 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>> "kady" <kady...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:8yfPr.208037$xK2.107888@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> On 07/23/2012 11:24 AM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>>>> On Jul 23, 10:20 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it
>>>> > grows every year as the US sinks lower in ratings of
>>>> > economic freedom:
>>>> I am thrilled to hear that you made a 180-degree turn and now support
>>>> the position of ALL US businesses on immigration!! (not to mention the
>>>> Churches).
>>> Liar. I never said anything about immigration. You don't know my
>>> position.
>> You're against illegal immigration which means that in fascist
>> democrat-ese
>> you are a racist and are against immigration.
> Correct, I suppose.
Of course, that's what you suppose. You're an ignoramus.
> Anything other than open borders is racism, these days.
How about equating other races and ethnicities with immorality, mental deficiency, etc? Not to mention an unhealthy fascination with their anal sexual proclivities?
> On Jul 23, 1:23 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 07/23/2012 12:40 PM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>> On Jul 23, 12:34 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Correct, I suppose. Anything other than open borders is racism,
>>> these days.
>>> > Kady
>>> I guess there are 313 million racists in the USA,
> > You'll have to ask those who say such things. Contrary to your
> > objections, there are those that DO support open borders (although
> > they're very good at couching such positions)
> If there is a couple dozen, they may be SAFELY ignored as the
> political power they hold is ZERO.
>>>> You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you plan on
>>>> living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of
>>>> mankind,
>>>> you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>> Eh. Don't worry about it.
>>> Let's suppose that Ramon is correct, that the uneducated dependent
>>> population in places like Texas at some point becomes large enough there
>>> and in other states that there's no way that a party that *doesn't*
>>> simply support all handouts to the wastrels can get elected.
>>> What happens?
>>> Money just starts flowing out of the country. To me, "America" isn't as
>>> much a place as it is an experiment in freedom. If the statists succeed
>>> in killing off that experiment, one simply takes ones assets, slides
>>> their passport under the door, and moves on to a place that *does*
>>> reward free market initative. If the current situation, where nearly 50%
>>> of the population is on a dole, and we keep borrowing money from our
>>> kids to PAY for those doles (and a lot of other things, or course)
>>> persists, it becomes morally impossible to stay here.
>>> The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it grows every year
>>> as the US sinks lower in ratings of economic freedom:
>> Bwahahahahahahaha! Two rightard think tanks rating "economic freedom."
>> Do you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of
>> bankruptcy here is medical bills?
>> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
>> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
> HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH !!!!!! So, tell us. How long before Hussein
> rides in on his white and "fixes" the "crisis" caused by the failing
> of so many private insurance companies that are FORCED to insure
> anybody with a pre-existing condition or never bothered to buy health
> insurance until they were dieing with cancer? Dear Leader will FINALLY
> get his cherished "single payer" plan.
Uh, Sparky? Insurance companies are salivating over the ACA rules. The individual mandate will open up a huge market of healthy people to insure, more than enough to cover people with pre-existing conditions. Right now private insurers are faced with rising costs, which causes them to raise premiums, which causes the healthy to gamble on not paying for insurance, which shrinks their pool of insured to those more likely to get sick, which raises their costs, .... Well, you get the idea. At least you could, if you could think straight.
> Instead of destroying the best healthcare system on the planet?
Based on results, like say, infant mortality, we don't have the best healthcare system in the world.
> why not
> let the government provide insurance for those that are uninsurable?
> On 7/23/12 12:19 PM, kady wrote:
>> On 07/23/2012 11:25 AM, deadrat wrote:
>>> On 7/23/12 10:20 AM, kady wrote:
>>>> On 07/23/2012 09:50 AM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>>>> "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:aa5f39f6-9e8a-4bc5-8b24-a56150552dd3@v9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Jul 23, 9:35 am, "Eddie Haskell" <km...@plmges.com> wrote:
>>>>> You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you
>>>>> plan on
>>>>> living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of
>>>>> mankind,
>>>>> you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?
>>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>> Eh. Don't worry about it.
>>>> Let's suppose that Ramon is correct, that the uneducated dependent
>>>> population in places like Texas at some point becomes large enough
>>>> there
>>>> and in other states that there's no way that a party that *doesn't*
>>>> simply support all handouts to the wastrels can get elected.
>>>> What happens?
>>>> Money just starts flowing out of the country. To me, "America" isn't as
>>>> much a place as it is an experiment in freedom. If the statists succeed
>>>> in killing off that experiment, one simply takes ones assets, slides
>>>> their passport under the door, and moves on to a place that *does*
>>>> reward free market initative. If the current situation, where nearly
>>>> 50%
>>>> of the population is on a dole, and we keep borrowing money from our
>>>> kids to PAY for those doles (and a lot of other things, or course)
>>>> persists, it becomes morally impossible to stay here.
>>>> The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it grows every
>>>> year
>>>> as the US sinks lower in ratings of economic freedom:
>>> Bwahahahahahahaha! Two rightard think tanks rating "economic freedom."
>> A rating of free markets requires people who understand free markets.
> Bwahahahahaha! Stop it, please. I can't catch my breath. Why do you
> support the people who pick your pockets?
Never do. I support the people who pay my salary and enable my family to live a very nice lifestyle.
Who do *you* support, if not them?
>>> Do you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of
>>> bankruptcy here is medical bills?
>> There are over 40 different variables; why individuals declare
>> bankruptcy isn't one of them. We get docked because of regulation,
>> obstacles to business startup, and tax system irregularities that
>> decrease efficiency.
> Your blather is noted. The leading cause of bankruptcy in this country
> is medical bills.
Never said it wasn't. You're the one who changed the subject to personal bankruptcy, so don't whine if I don't play along.
>>> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
>>> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.
>> And now you know why we don't let leftists rate economic freedom. They
>> can't tell the difference between a market-oriented economy and a
>> lawless state.
> Somalia is the #1 "market-oriented" economy in the world. Not a
> government regulation or tax in sight. The ultimate rightard paradise.
> Own it.
Own what? The fact that you know so little about free market economics that you confuse it with a failed state? :-)
>>>> You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you plan on
>>>> living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of
>>>> mankind,
>>>> you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>> Eh. Don't worry about it.
>>> Let's suppose that Ramon is correct, that the uneducated dependent
>>> population in places like Texas at some point becomes large enough there
>>> and in other states that there's no way that a party that *doesn't*
>>> simply support all handouts to the wastrels can get elected.
>>> What happens?
>>> Money just starts flowing out of the country. To me, "America" isn't as
>>> much a place as it is an experiment in freedom. If the statists succeed
>>> in killing off that experiment, one simply takes ones assets, slides
>>> their passport under the door, and moves on to a place that *does*
>>> reward free market initative. If the current situation, where nearly 50%
>>> of the population is on a dole, and we keep borrowing money from our
>>> kids to PAY for those doles (and a lot of other things, or course)
>>> persists, it becomes morally impossible to stay here.
>>> The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it grows every year
>>> as the US sinks lower in ratings of economic freedom:
>> Bwahahahahahahaha! Two rightard think tanks rating "economic freedom."
>> Do you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of
>> bankruptcy here is medical bills?
>> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
>> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.
> The simplicity in your thinking shows you to be below a 1st grader in
> your cognitve skills.
As irony meters explode everywhere. Not mine, of course. It's mil-spec.
> Your exstremist answer demonstrates perfectly that you don't have a
> clue as to what you're talking about
Well, at least I can go a couple of posts without talking about anal sex.
.
> Name a single conservative that has ever said they wanted none of the
> above you stupid fuck.
Name one who hasn't.
> Smaller government and less taxes equate to none at all in your feeble
> little brain does it?
> That shows you to be just plain stupid.
Oh, look! An ignoramus calls me stupid.
When are you leaving for Somalia, the rightard economic paradise? I think that's what's called "win-win." You're obviously so unhappy here. And as for everybody else, ....
> On 7/23/12 12:34 PM, kady wrote:
>> On 07/23/2012 12:28 PM, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> "kady" <kady...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8yfPr.208037$xK2.107888@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>> On 07/23/2012 11:24 AM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 23, 10:20 am, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it
>>>>> > grows every year as the US sinks lower in ratings of
>>>>> > economic freedom:
>>>>> I am thrilled to hear that you made a 180-degree turn and now support
>>>>> the position of ALL US businesses on immigration!! (not to mention the
>>>>> Churches).
>>>> Liar. I never said anything about immigration. You don't know my
>>>> position.
>>> You're against illegal immigration which means that in fascist
>>> democrat-ese
>>> you are a racist and are against immigration.
>> Correct, I suppose.
> Of course, that's what you suppose. You're an ignoramus.
>> Anything other than open borders is racism, these days.
> How about equating other races and ethnicities with immorality, mental
> deficiency, etc? Not to mention an unhealthy fascination with their
> anal sexual proclivities?
Never do, in that I'm not exactly a "approved majority" myself.
>>>> On 7/17/2012 12:58 PM, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>>>> On Jul 17, 1:58 am, "Bill Gaffney" <bgaff...@earthlink.nut> wrote:
>>>> > Maybe Obama got his "degree" the same way Martin Luther King did.
>>>> > He plagiarized his work.
>>>> Then you wonder why Blacks and Latino folks (plus Asians, Jews, Gays)
>>>> stick together against your hatred.
>>>> -Ramon
>>>> We know why they stick together. They butt fuck each other. Besides,
>>>> they are incompetent and uneducated parasites. They stick together to
>>>> suck the life out of America.
>>> Dead on the money. Exactly right.
>>> -Eddioe haskell
>> How long have you had this unhealthy fascination with anal sex?
> Ever since your old lady asked me to be her back door man.
On Jul 23, 1:55 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The pro-immigrants win. Therefore, the only
> reason to reject a Path to Legalization is RACISM (*).
>
> Illogical.
>
See one of my top copy&pastes below. Then read the posts by Mr.
Haskell, Phantom, azjohn, etc. Surf around the Internet. Check who
finances their groups.
Haven't you realized that the number of ads in the anti-immigrant
(illegal, whatever) sites is ZERO?
Why? Because no self-respecting US company would associate themselves
with purveyors of hatred.
Meanwhile, how many businesses on MY side would you like me to post?
29+ million enough?
-Ramon
--------------------------------
From a Washington Post thread:
j3hess
3:09 PM CDT
If the immigration issue was only economic and the discussion was
rational, we would have had a fix back when president G.W. Bush
proposed it.
But the vitriol suggests this isn't an economic issue, it is a purity
issue. It is about dark-skinned unclean lower-class people sullying
our white middle-class society. (This is why Asians get to be white -
the ones who make it here these days are middle/professional/business
class.)
This is NOT to say that everyone concerned about immigration is
racist. But this is where a lot of the heat comes from. This is why
immigrants are accused of committing disproportional amounts of crime.
Since it is socially unacceptable to be outwardly racist, the springs
of residual racism find another outlet.
>>>> You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you plan
>>>> on
>>>> living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of
>>>> mankind,
>>>> you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?
>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>> Eh. Don't worry about it.
>>> Let's suppose that Ramon is correct, that the uneducated dependent
>>> population in places like Texas at some point becomes large enough there
>>> and in other states that there's no way that a party that *doesn't*
>>> simply support all handouts to the wastrels can get elected.
>>> What happens?
>>> Money just starts flowing out of the country. To me, "America" isn't as
>>> much a place as it is an experiment in freedom. If the statists succeed
>>> in killing off that experiment, one simply takes ones assets, slides
>>> their passport under the door, and moves on to a place that *does*
>>> reward free market initative. If the current situation, where nearly 50%
>>> of the population is on a dole, and we keep borrowing money from our
>>> kids to PAY for those doles (and a lot of other things, or course)
>>> persists, it becomes morally impossible to stay here.
>>> The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it grows every year
>>> as the US sinks lower in ratings of economic freedom:
>> Bwahahahahahahaha! Two rightard think tanks rating "economic freedom."
>> Do you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of
>> bankruptcy here is medical bills?
>> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
>> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.-
>> Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>> HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH !!!!!! So, tell us. How long before Hussein
>> rides in on his white and "fixes" the "crisis" caused by the failing
>> of so many private insurance companies that are FORCED to insure
>> anybody with a pre-existing condition or never bothered to buy health
>> insurance until they were dieing with cancer? Dear Leader will FINALLY
>> get his cherished "single payer" plan.
> Bingo. You nailed it. That's the plan. Drive the cost of insurance through
> the roof with all of their stupid mandates that will have the public
> clamoring for the public option that will put private insurance out of
> business.
Private insurers are driving up the cost of insurance now. They love the mandates.
Try again.
>> Instead of destroying the best healthcare system on the planet why not
>> let the government provide insurance for those that are uninsurable??
> You're trying to get him to think with a rhetorical question.
> Won't work.
Irrationality and ignorance rarely do. They're still popular, though. At least judging by your posts.
> On Jul 23, 1:55 pm, kady <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The pro-immigrants win. Therefore, the only
> > reason to reject a Path to Legalization is RACISM (*).
> > Illogical.
> See one of my top copy&pastes below. Then read the posts by Mr.
> Haskell, Phantom, azjohn, etc. Surf around the Internet. Check who
> finances their groups.
> Why? Because no self-respecting US company would associate themselves
> with purveyors of hatred.
> Meanwhile, how many businesses on MY side would you like me to post?
> 29+ million enough?
> -Ramon
> --------------------------------
> From a Washington Post thread:
> j3hess
> 3:09 PM CDT
> If the immigration issue was only economic and the discussion was
> rational, we would have had a fix back when president G.W. Bush
> proposed it.
> But the vitriol suggests this isn't an economic issue, it is a purity
> issue. It is about dark-skinned unclean lower-class people sullying
> our white middle-class society. (This is why Asians get to be white -
> the ones who make it here these days are middle/professional/business
> class.)
> This is NOT to say that everyone concerned about immigration is
> racist. But this is where a lot of the heat comes from. This is why
> immigrants are accused of committing disproportional amounts of crime.
> Since it is socially unacceptable to be outwardly racist, the springs
> of residual racism find another outlet.
>>>>>> You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you
>>>>>> plan on
>>>>>> living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of
>>>>>> mankind,
>>>>>> you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?
>>>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>>> Eh. Don't worry about it.
>>>>> Let's suppose that Ramon is correct, that the uneducated dependent
>>>>> population in places like Texas at some point becomes large enough
>>>>> there
>>>>> and in other states that there's no way that a party that *doesn't*
>>>>> simply support all handouts to the wastrels can get elected.
>>>>> What happens?
>>>>> Money just starts flowing out of the country. To me, "America"
>>>>> isn't as
>>>>> much a place as it is an experiment in freedom. If the statists
>>>>> succeed
>>>>> in killing off that experiment, one simply takes ones assets, slides
>>>>> their passport under the door, and moves on to a place that *does*
>>>>> reward free market initative. If the current situation, where nearly
>>>>> 50%
>>>>> of the population is on a dole, and we keep borrowing money from our
>>>>> kids to PAY for those doles (and a lot of other things, or course)
>>>>> persists, it becomes morally impossible to stay here.
>>>>> The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it grows every
>>>>> year
>>>>> as the US sinks lower in ratings of economic freedom:
>>>> Bwahahahahahahaha! Two rightard think tanks rating "economic freedom."
>>> A rating of free markets requires people who understand free markets.
>> Bwahahahahaha! Stop it, please. I can't catch my breath. Why do you
>> support the people who pick your pockets?
> Never do. I support the people who pay my salary and enable my family to
> live a very nice lifestyle.
> Who do *you* support, if not them?
>>>> Do you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of
>>>> bankruptcy here is medical bills?
>>> There are over 40 different variables; why individuals declare
>>> bankruptcy isn't one of them. We get docked because of regulation,
>>> obstacles to business startup, and tax system irregularities that
>>> decrease efficiency.
>> Your blather is noted. The leading cause of bankruptcy in this country
>> is medical bills.
> Never said it wasn't.
Well, we're in violent agreement. Maybe that means we don't have the greatest healthcare system in the world.
> You're the one who changed the subject to personal
> bankruptcy, so don't whine if I don't play along.
I don't mind if you can't follow along. That's your problem.
>>>> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
>>>> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard
>>>> paradise.
>>> And now you know why we don't let leftists rate economic freedom. They
>>> can't tell the difference between a market-oriented economy and a
>>> lawless state.
>> Somalia is the #1 "market-oriented" economy in the world. Not a
>> government regulation or tax in sight. The ultimate rightard paradise.
>> Own it.
> Own what? The fact that you know so little about free market economics
> that you confuse it with a failed state? :-)
Oh, dear! An emoticon, the refuge of those that can't write clearly.
When are you leaving for Somalia, the rightard economic paradise? It's such a bummer for you here.
>>>>> You didn't answer the question, you sniveling bitch. Where do you plan
>>>>> on
>>>>> living after you've destroyed the greatest nation in the history of
>>>>> mankind,
>>>>> you third-world low IQ wet back fuck?
>>>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>>> Eh. Don't worry about it.
>>>> Let's suppose that Ramon is correct, that the uneducated dependent
>>>> population in places like Texas at some point becomes large enough >>>> there
>>>> and in other states that there's no way that a party that *doesn't*
>>>> simply support all handouts to the wastrels can get elected.
>>>> What happens?
>>>> Money just starts flowing out of the country. To me, "America" isn't as
>>>> much a place as it is an experiment in freedom. If the statists succeed
>>>> in killing off that experiment, one simply takes ones assets, slides
>>>> their passport under the door, and moves on to a place that *does*
>>>> reward free market initative. If the current situation, where nearly >>>> 50%
>>>> of the population is on a dole, and we keep borrowing money from our
>>>> kids to PAY for those doles (and a lot of other things, or course)
>>>> persists, it becomes morally impossible to stay here.
>>>> The list of places with greater freedom is here, and it grows every >>>> year
>>>> as the US sinks lower in ratings of economic freedom:
>>> Bwahahahahahahaha! Two rightard think tanks rating "economic freedom." >>> Do
>>> you suppose that the US got docked because the largest cause of >>> bankruptcy
>>> here is medical bills?
>> Gee, how the hell can that be with Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP and the >> myriad
>> of other government programs and free medical malls dotting the >> landscape?
> Free medical malls?
Groan..
>> Are all your programs utter fucking failures?
> No, these programs are fairly successful in delivering medical care. The > costs are rising faster than inflation and thus aren't sustainable, but > that's a different problem.
No it isn't. The way these programs have been set up to run has been the major contributor to raising costs.
>> Could it be that these
>> programs are mostly responsible for the skyrocketing costs?
> I doubt it, but I could be convinced by evidence. Do you have any?
There is no incentive for anyone to shop price. Ever notice how procedures not covered by any form of insurance like lasik surgery gets cheaper, better and more available?
>> And what will
>> Husseincare do about costs? Answer: Nothing but higher premiums, less >> access
>> rationing and death panels.
> No one really knows what will happen,
Oh, yes the hell we do. Just because you don't doesn't mean that the rest of us are as stupid.
> but we've already got higher premiums every year.
They'll be even higher thanks to all the new mandates.
> Except in Massachusetts, which has Romneycare and which just announced its > second annual drop in premiums.
> And we already have access rationing. The latter is just done by > insurance company bureaucrats.
Medicare denies more coverage than any private insurance company, and with private insurance their is legal recourse. After full implementation of Husseincare there will be none and you will be completely at the mercy of government.
> "Death panels" are just part of your fever dreams. The ACA was written > specifically so that no government agency makes medical decisions.
April 13, 2011 - The deficit-reduction plan unveiled by President Barack
Obama today strengthens a cost-control tool in healthcare reform that
organized medicine fears.
The savings mechanism is the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB).
Under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), the IPAB will advise Congress on ways
to curb the per capita growth of Medicare spending if it exceeds growth-rate
targets set by the law.
If it does not implement IPAB recommendations, Congress must enact policies
that save just as much, or else let the Department of Health and Human
Services make the cuts.
>> Let's try it this way, shit-fer-brains. What would happen to price of >> food
>> if instead of food stamps we merely had the grocer send the bill on to >> the
>> government?
> Oh, look! An ignoramus calls me names. Can't argue with logic like > yours.
> Let's not try it that way, since such a hypothetical bears no relationship > to the current health insurance reforms. Didja make that one up yourself, > or was it something someone told you and you just didn't bother to think > it through?
Can't answer the question, can you shit-fer-brains? Try again. What would happen to the price of food if we handled doling it out to the poor the same way we do healthcare?
Hint: It would skyrocket.
Why? No one would shop price.
>> He won't get it, folks. He's a democrat and therefore too stupid. Not one
>> clue how economics works.
> Oh, look! An ignoramus think I don't understand how health insurance > works.
You don't understand how insurance or the economy works.
>>> Remember that Somalia should be first on the list -- no government
>>> regulations, no government taxes, no government. The rightard paradise.
>> Somalia is a shit hole for the same reason all Negro nations, towns and
>> cities are bombed out shit holes. Stupid backward and immoral. That's why
>> they vote 90% democrat.
> Well, Sparky, the Democratic Party doesn't operate in Somalia, but I can't > understand why you think it's a shit hole. It's the rightard economic > paradise, isn't it? No pesky government to get in the way.
DNC tactic #24. When cornered, claim that conservatives are for no government.
>> Thanks for your fuckwitted DNC talking point though.
> The DNC isn't really concerned with Somalia, the inevitable paradise of > rightard economics: the less government, the better. Right?
The problem with Somalia is not lack of government, but the fact that it's full of third-world morons like Hussein and his supporters, and if we stay on the path they have put us on we will become Somalia. That's a fact.
Hussein is destroying our economy, the rule of law, and our civil society in the exact same way tin horn dictators the world over come to power. Appealing to base envy, class warfare and promises of wealth distribution. Then of course, the people starve.
