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Stroke The Stik

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Jan 7, 2001, 2:59:26 PM1/7/01
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I would've liked to have commented on this post when it was fresh...
and sans vermin (we all know of whom I speak). Since the vermin have
infected this thread with their brain-injured, ugly-name-calling bile,
I'll not participate.

Except to say...

>>> We as Blacks have continually whined about
>>> not having leaders. "We don't have any
>>> Black leaders," is something we continually
>>> hear. Well, I have news for you. We have
>>> leaders, and we choose our leaders.

LOL... this has to go down as the funniest, most absurd line of the
year 2000. Can someone tell me the last election that involved Jesse
Jackson Sr.???

The sad thing is... I truly believe that the poster believes this.
*WhattaDope*


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phoenix...@my-deja.com wrote:

<brain-dead claptrap snip>

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StevenM135

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Jan 7, 2001, 11:47:17 PM1/7/01
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In article <93ahqs$o7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, Stroke The Stik
<stiks...@my-deja.com> writes:

>LOL... this has to go down as the funniest, most absurd line of the
>year 2000. Can someone tell me the last election that involved Jesse
>Jackson Sr.???

1984 as a candidate. In that election he received 4 million votes. Don't you
remember? most black people in America do. Were you part of the black community
at this time, order to join each lateyl? The last one that involved Rev.
Jackson as a citizen was in the year 2000. he's not allowedto campaign for whom
he wishes?

>The sad thing is... I truly believe that the poster believes this.
*WhattaDope*

The only dope seems to be yourself. How many votes have you gotten? what is sad
is a "black" man who frequents places where most of people are white, calling
black people every vile name that the can come up with. it is calculated to
win friends, and it does.

Stroke The Stik

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Jan 8, 2001, 3:49:06 AM1/8/01
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In article <20010107234717...@nso-ca.aol.com>,
steve...@aol.com (StevenM135) wrote:

> In article <93ahqs$o7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, Stroke The Stik
> <stiks...@my-deja.com> writes:
>
> >LOL... this has to go down as the funniest, most absurd line of the
> >year 2000. Can someone tell me the last election that involved Jesse
> >Jackson Sr.???
>
> 1984 as a candidate. In that election he received 4 million votes.
Don't you
> remember? most black people in America do. Were you part of the black
community
> at this time, order to join each lateyl? The last one that involved
Rev.
> Jackson as a citizen was in the year 2000. he's not allowedto
campaign for whom
> he wishes?

Hmmm... let's see: 1984 to 1994 = 10 years; 1994 to 2000 = 6 years. So,
16 years... is this what you call modern BLACK "leadership"?
OBTW... although the good reverend received 4Mil votes, this was a
useless endeavor since he wasn't elected to one single office. And, you
forget that the good reverend also ran in 1988 (got less votes in that
one) and he "played" around in the electoral process in 1992. He
doesn't even do that anymore b/c it's become crystal clear that no one
wants him... he couldn't even win an election as dogcatcher.

> >The sad thing is... I truly believe that the poster believes this.
> *WhattaDope*
>
> The only dope seems to be yourself. How many votes have you gotten?

I've never ran for any office, thank you. But I am a citizen and can
voice my opinion whenever I choose to. This is the United States Of
America.

what is sad
> is a "black" man who frequents places where most of people are
white, calling
> black people every vile name that the can come up with. it is
calculated to
> win friends, and it does.

And the reason why you post here is...?
*sigh*

StevenM135

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Jan 8, 2001, 7:43:27 PM1/8/01
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In article <93buu1$40v$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, Stroke The Stik
<stiks...@my-deja.com> writes:

>> >LOL... this has to go down as the funniest, most absurd line of the
>> >year 2000. Can someone tell me the last election that involved Jesse
>> >Jackson Sr.???
>>
>> 1984 as a candidate. In that election he received 4 million votes.
>Don't you
>> remember? most black people in America do. Were you part of the black
>community
>> at this time, order to join each lateyl? The last one that involved
>Rev.
>> Jackson as a citizen was in the year 2000. he's not allowedto
>campaign for whom
>> he wishes?
>
>Hmmm... let's see: 1984 to 1994 = 10 years; 1994 to 2000 = 6 years. So,
>16 years... is this what you call modern BLACK "leadership"?
>OBTW... although the good reverend received 4Mil votes, this was a
>useless endeavor since he wasn't elected to one single office

The timing wasn't the question asked, was it? As for wheather it was useless or
not, it is wrong and irrelavent. If he was elected to an office is irrelavant.
You don't ask these questions of Pat Robertson ,do you?

>And, you
forget that the good reverend also ran in 1988 (got less votes in that
one) and he "played" around in the electoral process in 1992. He
doesn't even do that anymore b/c it's become crystal clear that no one
wants him... he couldn't even win an election as dogcatcher.

So what? Nobody wants Alan Keyes either, but the right keeps pushing him.

>> >The sad thing is... I truly believe that the poster believes this.
> *WhattaDope*
>
> The only dope seems to be yourself. How many votes have you gotten?

>I've never ran for any office, thank you. But I am a citizen and can
voice my opinion whenever I choose to. This is the United States Of
America.

That's right. So am I.

>what is sad
> is a "black" man who frequents places where most of people are
white, calling
> black people every vile name that the can come up with. it is
calculated to
> win friends, and it does.

>And the reason why you post here is...?
*sigh*

Because I want too. I also don't spend my time telling how worthless a
particular group is.

Jenn

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Jan 8, 2001, 11:32:43 PM1/8/01
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"Drunk & Disorderly" <mult...@multi.net> wrote in message
news:ftrj5tk93dg3ukau6...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 19:59:26 GMT, Stroke The Stik
> <stiks...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> >I would've liked to have commented on this post when it was fresh...
> >and sans vermin (we all know of whom I speak). Since the vermin have
> >infected this thread with their brain-injured, ugly-name-calling bile,
> >I'll not participate.
> >
> >Except to say...
> >
> >>>> We as Blacks have continually whined about
> >>>> not having leaders. "We don't have any
> >>>> Black leaders," is something we continually
> >>>> hear. Well, I have news for you. We have
> >>>> leaders, and we choose our leaders.
> >
> >LOL... this has to go down as the funniest, most absurd line of the
> >year 2000. Can someone tell me the last election that involved Jesse
> >Jackson Sr.???
> >
> >The sad thing is... I truly believe that the poster believes this.
> >*WhattaDope*
> >
> We need people like Jackson and Sharpton to remind us from time to
> time there are phonies out there making a good living at pulling the
> wool over the eyes of the illiterate.

So where is all this comtempt for voter taking us? I really wish you could
hear yourselves.
>
> Take a fools advice.
> Treat me as an emergency
> vehicle and pull over to
> the shoulder and stop.
>
> Drunk & Disorderly


Stroke The Stik

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Jan 10, 2001, 4:20:52 AM1/10/01
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In article <20010108194327...@nso-fb.aol.com>,
steve...@aol.com (StevenM135) wrote:

First of all, I asked, "Can someone tell me the last election that
involved Jesse Jackson Sr.???" You did... and then I asked if a 16 year
old election represents "modern BLACK leadership"? You didn't b/c it
couldn't be done.

Secondly... I am NO FAN of Pat Robertson. He would destroy this nation
by turning it into a Christian theocracy. I'm not for that.

> >And, you
> forget that the good reverend also ran in 1988 (got less votes in that
> one) and he "played" around in the electoral process in 1992. He
> doesn't even do that anymore b/c it's become crystal clear that no one
> wants him... he couldn't even win an election as dogcatcher.
>
> So what? Nobody wants Alan Keyes either, but the right keeps pushing
him.

I've never written anything about Alan Keyes. I think he's one of the
BLACK conservatives from the 80's who marched to the tune of the
conservative WHITE establishment... w/o critique. He's a Johnny-Come-
Lately in the movement. Needless to say, I'm not a big fan.

> >> >The sad thing is... I truly believe that the poster believes this.
> > *WhattaDope*
> >
> > The only dope seems to be yourself. How many votes have you gotten?
>
> >I've never ran for any office, thank you. But I am a citizen and can
> voice my opinion whenever I choose to. This is the United States Of
> America.
>
> That's right. So am I.

After lines and lines of opposite direction debate... we can finally
agree on something.

> >what is sad
> > is a "black" man who frequents places where most of people are
> white, calling
> > black people every vile name that the can come up with. it is
> calculated to
> > win friends, and it does.
>
> >And the reason why you post here is...?
> *sigh*
>
> Because I want too. I also don't spend my time telling how worthless a
> particular group is.

When you say "particular group", I hope you mean, "current BLACK
leadership". This is the group I'm talking about.

say...@my-deja.com

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Jan 10, 2001, 10:33:55 PM1/10/01
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you
> forget that the good reverend also ran in 1988 (got less votes in that
> one) and he "played" around in the electoral process in 1992. He
> doesn't even do that anymore b/c it's become crystal clear that no one
> wants him... he couldn't even win an election as dogcatcher.

>>Jesse Jackson was in fact elected to the office of Shadow Senator from
Washington D.C. Having said that it must be remembered that people
have chosen leaders without elections for centuries nor is it automatic
that someone who is elected is a leader. The poster needs to stop
stroking himself and get a clue.
>
> > >
> w


>
> --
> Stroking Hard Since 1979
>
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will" Frederick Douglass

say...@my-deja.com

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Jan 10, 2001, 10:43:01 PM1/10/01
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.
>
> When you say "particular group", I hope you mean, "current BLACK
> leadership". This is the group I'm talking about.
>
> >>The contradictions expressed on newsgroups is amazing. On some
threads Whites cry that Black leadership is leading Black people around
like sheep and causing them to vote against their will. While others
like this poster deny that Black leadership exist given the abscence of
elections.
What the poster and the whites are really upset about is that Black
leadership is not under their control nor is Black leadership answerable
to whites. This is as it should be.

--
"Power conceedes nothing without a struggle...It never did and it never
will" Frederick Douglass

Stroke The Stik

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Jan 12, 2001, 6:30:19 PM1/12/01
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In article <93j9j3$4qd$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
say...@my-deja.com wrote:

> you
> > forget that the good reverend also ran in 1988 (got less votes in
that
> > one) and he "played" around in the electoral process in 1992. He
> > doesn't even do that anymore b/c it's become crystal clear that no
one
> > wants him... he couldn't even win an election as dogcatcher.
>
> >>Jesse Jackson was in fact elected to the office of Shadow Senator
from
> Washington D.C.

"Shadow Senator"??? What the hell is that??? Can I look this up in the
US Constitution??? Did Jackson get a seat in the Senate?? Did he vote??
Can I look up his record in the Senate archives??

Uhhhh... speaking of "clues"... <LOL>

> Having said that it must be remembered that people

> have chosen leaders without elections for centuries...

Jeez, what country are you referring to? And, if elections aren't
important, why is everyone (Left, Right & others) working hard to get
out the vote every election cycle?

Uhhhh... speaking of "clues"... <LOL>

> nor is it automatic that someone who is elected is a leader.

Don't know how this country works yet, I see.

Uhhhh... speaking of "clues"... <LOL>

> The poster needs to stop
> stroking himself and get a clue.

When I scrape up enough money to "get a clue"... can I buy some from
you? Can I? Can I?

How stupid can one leftist be?

say...@my-deja.com

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Jan 14, 2001, 6:17:40 PM1/14/01
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In article <93o42c$ash$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Stroke The Stik <stiks...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <93j9j3$4qd$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> say...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > you
> > > forget that the good reverend also ran in 1988 (got less votes in
> that
> > > one) and he "played" around in the electoral process in 1992. He
> > > doesn't even do that anymore b/c it's become crystal clear that no
> one
> > > wants him... he couldn't even win an election as dogcatcher.
> >
> > >>Jesse Jackson was in fact elected to the office of Shadow Senator
> from
> > Washington D.C.
>
> "Shadow Senator"??? What the hell is that??? Can I look this up in the
> US Constitution??? Did Jackson get a seat in the Senate?? Did he
vote??


>>The fact is he was elected to an office in the District of Columbia.


> Can I look up his record in the Senate archives??
>
> Uhhhh... speaking of "clues"... <LOL>
>
> > Having said that it must be remembered that people
> > have chosen leaders without elections for centuries...
>
> Jeez, what country are you referring to? And, if elections aren't
> important, why is everyone (Left, Right & others) working hard to get
> out the vote every election cycle?

> >>>Walter Ruether was a Labor Leader but he was never elected to a
public office . Neither were Ceaser Chavez or Martin Luther King. Were
they any less leaders becuase of it.


> Uhhhh... speaking of "clues"... <LOL>
>
> > nor is it automatic that someone who is elected is a leader.
>
> Don't know how this country works yet, I see.

> >>>Dan Quayle was a vice President but he was not a leader, not even
within the Republican Party. He was at best an elected administrator.


> Uhhhh... speaking of "clues"... <LOL>
>
> >
>
>

> How stupid can one leftist be?

> Never as stupid as the Rush Limbaugh/Rightwingers.


> --
> Stroking Hard Since 1979

> Again I repeat the poster needs to stop


> > stroking himself and get a clue.

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> http://www.deja.com/
>

--


"Power conceedes nothing without a struggle...It never did and it never
will" Frederick Douglass

archi...@my-deja.com

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Jan 15, 2001, 10:24:21 PM1/15/01
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In article <93tc2g$5a4$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

say...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <93o42c$ash$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Stroke The Stik <stiks...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > In article <93j9j3$4qd$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > say...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > > you
> > > > forget that the good reverend also ran in 1988 (got less votes
in
> > that
> > > > one) and he "played" around in the electoral process in 1992. He
> > > > doesn't even do that anymore b/c it's become crystal clear that
no
> > one
> > > > wants him... he couldn't even win an election as dogcatcher.
> > >
> > > >>Jesse Jackson was in fact elected to the office of Shadow
Senator
> > from
> > > Washington D.C.
> >
> > "Shadow Senator"??? What the hell is that??? Can I look this up in
the
> > US Constitution??? Did Jackson get a seat in the Senate?? Did he
> vote??
>
> >>The fact is he was elected to an office in the District of Columbia.

As if winning an election in DC is representative of *anything*.
Have we forgotten Marion "Bitch Set Me Up" Barry?


_______________________________________________________________________


"I'm sick of the Democratic Party taking the African-American
vote for granted. And we don't ever seem to get anything out
of our vote other than, you know, well, I'm a Democrat and, you
know, Democrats have always taken care of our interests."
--Lee Alcorn, ex-Dallas head of NAACP, 8/8/2000

"Black leaders like Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton
--not to mention virtually every black elected official--
in the country have insisted that the partisan divide
and the ideological divide as prescribed by the Democratic
Party remain the Mason Dixon line of American politics. But
I refuse to stand behind that line because I believe that until
black America can be independent it cannot be free. "
--Dr Lenora Fulani, 11/11/1999

fra...@my-deja.com

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Jan 16, 2001, 5:29:40 PM1/16/01
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In article <940esu$n4j$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Hadn't heard of "Shadow Senator" either, but a
search on Altavista cleared that one. I found
this link giving a brief history of the same:

http://senatordc.wdcnet.net/shadow_senate_history.
html

thei...@my-deja.com

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Jan 16, 2001, 6:20:09 PM1/16/01
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In article <940esu$n4j$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
archi...@my-deja.com wrote:

Lol!...

> _______________________________________________________________________
>
> "I'm sick of the Democratic Party taking the African-American
> vote for granted. And we don't ever seem to get anything out
> of our vote other than, you know, well, I'm a Democrat and, you
> know, Democrats have always taken care of our interests."
> --Lee Alcorn, ex-Dallas head of NAACP, 8/8/2000
>

Isn't this the fool who made the "jew" comment,then later took it back?...


> "Black leaders like Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton
> --not to mention virtually every black elected official--
> in the country have insisted that the partisan divide
> and the ideological divide as prescribed by the Democratic
> Party remain the Mason Dixon line of American politics. But
> I refuse to stand behind that line because I believe that until
> black America can be independent it cannot be free. "

True indeed.

archi...@my-deja.com

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Jan 16, 2001, 8:49:30 PM1/16/01
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In article <942kv3$j5d$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Indeed, one of *several* who blurted out their true feelings
when AllGore picked Joe Lieberman as his running mate, before
they were promptly told to shut up and sit down by their masters.

Alcorn however, refused to toe the party line laid down by Kwasi
Mfume, and was pushed out of the NAACP. Give Alcorn credit for
speaking his mind, if not much else.

> > "Black leaders like Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton
> > --not to mention virtually every black elected official--
> > in the country have insisted that the partisan divide
> > and the ideological divide as prescribed by the Democratic
> > Party remain the Mason Dixon line of American politics. But
> > I refuse to stand behind that line because I believe that until
> > black America can be independent it cannot be free. "
>
> True indeed.

And Fulani is no conservative.

thei...@my-deja.com

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Jan 17, 2001, 4:27:31 PM1/17/01
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In article <942tn8$qpj$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Lol!... Sad ain't it?

I remember back a few years ago when them & the CBC were told to tell Khalid
Muhammed to "shut up" for his racist comments.

Funny,I don't remember Khalid Muhammed,then an NOI minister,ever being a
"politician"!

What a joke!...

> Alcorn however, refused to toe the party line laid down by Kwasi
> Mfume, and was pushed out of the NAACP. Give Alcorn credit for
> speaking his mind, if not much else.
>

Yeah,but it was stupid of him to say it in the first place,knowing he was a
member of the NAACP.

Did someone not tell him that the organization was subsidized by the
Rockefellers???...

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