Merry Xmas atheists may ye choke on egg nog
dpr
some atheists protesting the nativity and a Christmas decorations being
displayed on public property.
So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the heads
and clothes of those intolerant atheists. You will be surprised how quick
that gook freezes in this temperture. Any way in the shuffle some atheists
slipped and a few of them suffered some broken bones and noses from slipping
into our fists.
I am so glad I am not a Christian, I would hate not being able to hit these
atheists who make fun of, and like to restrict the rights of the Christians.
So to all you newdow pricks out there who are offended by a couple of words
in the pledge because you are so intolerant, stand by to get the kicking you
all deserve.
--
Atheism teaches that there is no God, hence no God-given rights. That
ideology coupled with a system that believed in the superiority of the state
at the expense of the individual was murderously synergistic.
--
"Nietzsche said that G-D is dead, but G-d says that Nietzsche is dead!"
-Anonymous
Wolf333
news:vukdjrs...@corp.supernews.com...
> Today was an excellent day for expressing our first amendment rights. We
had
> some atheists protesting the nativity and a Christmas decorations being
> displayed on public property.
> So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the
heads
> and clothes of those intolerant atheists. You will be surprised how quick
> that gook freezes in this temperture. Any way in the shuffle some atheists
> slipped and a few of them suffered some broken bones and noses from
slipping
> into our fists.
Hmmm... nope... I don't recall assault being one of the rights guaranteed
under the 1st.
And eggs? What kind of pathetic fascist uses eggs? What, did you have to
hock your jack boots to afford hungry man dinners?
> I am so glad I am not a Christian, I would hate not being able to hit
these
> atheists who make fun of, and like to restrict the rights of the
Christians.
> So to all you newdow pricks out there who are offended by a couple of
words
> in the pledge because you are so intolerant, stand by to get the kicking
you
> all deserve.
Dude, you threw eggs. Not quite the "tea party" you think it is.
--
"Everyone gather 'round! It's time for pastel-tinted hairy balls with salsa
verde!"
Michael Wolfe
aa #1912
Liz
message <vukdjrs...@corp.supernews.com> wrote:
>Today was an excellent day for expressing our first amendment rights. We had
>some atheists protesting the nativity and a Christmas decorations being
>displayed on public property.
>So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the heads
>and clothes of those intolerant atheists. You will be surprised how quick
>that gook freezes in this temperture. Any way in the shuffle some atheists
>slipped and a few of them suffered some broken bones and noses from slipping
>into our fists.
>I am so glad I am not a Christian, I would hate not being able to hit these
>atheists who make fun of, and like to restrict the rights of the Christians.
>So to all you newdow pricks out there who are offended by a couple of words
>in the pledge because you are so intolerant, stand by to get the kicking you
>all deserve.
And that, folks, is the real meaning of the Season® for those who want
no separation of church and state. Happy Holidays, and Lint® bless us
every one!
Liz #658 BAAWA
"Lintanetics®" by L<dot> iz
A guide to a cleaner, brighter laundry.
Guaranteed to remove lamb's blood stains.
zepp
>Today was an excellent day for expressing our first amendment rights. We had
>some atheists protesting the nativity and a Christmas decorations being
>displayed on public property.
>So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the heads
>and clothes of those intolerant atheists. You will be surprised how quick
>that gook freezes in this temperture. Any way in the shuffle some atheists
>slipped and a few of them suffered some broken bones and noses from slipping
>into our fists.
>I am so glad I am not a Christian, I would hate not being able to hit these
>atheists who make fun of, and like to restrict the rights of the Christians.
>So to all you newdow pricks out there who are offended by a couple of words
>in the pledge because you are so intolerant, stand by to get the kicking you
>all deserve.
So tell us, Dipper: at twenty below, if you lick someone's rectum,
does your tongue stick?
>--
>Atheism teaches that there is no God, hence no God-given rights. That
>ideology coupled with a system that believed in the superiority of the state
>at the expense of the individual was murderously synergistic.
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Slap an atheist leftist for the hell of it, you have the right to express
your thoughts, just like they do.
dpr
news:vukhlbc...@corp.supernews.com...
> "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message
> news:vukdjrs...@corp.supernews.com...
> > Today was an excellent day for expressing our first amendment rights. We
> had
> > some atheists protesting the nativity and a Christmas decorations being
> > displayed on public property.
> > So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the
> heads
> > and clothes of those intolerant atheists. You will be surprised how
quick
> > that gook freezes in this temperture. Any way in the shuffle some
atheists
> > slipped and a few of them suffered some broken bones and noses from
> slipping
> > into our fists.
>
> Hmmm... nope... I don't recall assault being one of the rights guaranteed
> under the 1st.
It is not assault, it is art, just like you all can display pictures of
religious symbols drenched in urine and shit, we can display you all with
egg running down your faces.
dpr
news:3eikuvobjgmdhosqu...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:08:43 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote:
>
> >Today was an excellent day for expressing our first amendment rights. We
had
> >some atheists protesting the nativity and a Christmas decorations being
> >displayed on public property.
> >So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the
heads
> >and clothes of those intolerant atheists. You will be surprised how quick
> >that gook freezes in this temperture. Any way in the shuffle some
atheists
> >slipped and a few of them suffered some broken bones and noses from
slipping
> >into our fists.
> >I am so glad I am not a Christian, I would hate not being able to hit
these
> >atheists who make fun of, and like to restrict the rights of the
Christians.
> >So to all you newdow pricks out there who are offended by a couple of
words
> >in the pledge because you are so intolerant, stand by to get the kicking
you
> >all deserve.
>
> So tell us,
Look it is the fat canadian illegal resident.
Yang
[snip]
Why are you such a pervert hypocrite like the rest of your rightwing
liars?
>=====================================================
>
>From: danaraf...@worldnet.att.net (danaraf...@worldnet.att.net)
>Subject: golden/brown showers
>This is the only article in this thread
>View: Original Format
>Newsgroups: alt.personals.fetish, alt.sex.fetish.watersports
>Date: 1997/03/30
>
>
>swm/34 houston tx. looking for females to use me as an oral slave.
>no physical penetration,just use my tongue and mouth for your
>satisfaction. will perform toilet service for both golden and brown
>showers. will worship feet and ass. trampling and smothering ok
>also. cyber or in person. ladies tell me your fantasy,on watersports.
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The Bush 'balanced' budget: -525 billion and worsening
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The Bush Iraq lie: -464 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush fuck up my country: Worthless
Yang
>It is not assault, it is art, just like you all can display pictures of
>religious symbols drenched in urine and shit, we can display you all with
>egg running down your faces.
Just like we can display you with shit shoved in your mouth.
Oh wait, you actually enjoy that shit.
>=====================================================
>
>From: danaraf...@worldnet.att.net (danaraf...@worldnet.att.net)
>Subject: golden/brown showers
>This is the only article in this thread
>View: Original Format
>Newsgroups: alt.personals.fetish, alt.sex.fetish.watersports
>Date: 1997/03/30
>
>
>swm/34 houston tx. looking for females to use me as an oral slave.
>no physical penetration,just use my tongue and mouth for your
>satisfaction. will perform toilet service for both golden and brown
>showers. will worship feet and ass. trampling and smothering ok
>also. cyber or in person. ladies tell me your fantasy,on watersports.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=859766528.11093%40dejanews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
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zepp
<wolf...@spaM.excite.com> wrote:
>"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message
>news:vukdjrs...@corp.supernews.com...
>> Today was an excellent day for expressing our first amendment rights. We
>had
>> some atheists protesting the nativity and a Christmas decorations being
>> displayed on public property.
>> So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the
>heads
>> and clothes of those intolerant atheists. You will be surprised how quick
>> that gook freezes in this temperture. Any way in the shuffle some atheists
>> slipped and a few of them suffered some broken bones and noses from
>slipping
>> into our fists.
>
>Hmmm... nope... I don't recall assault being one of the rights guaranteed
>under the 1st.
>And eggs? What kind of pathetic fascist uses eggs? What, did you have to
>hock your jack boots to afford hungry man dinners?
I got curious and Googled the news. It looks like Dana made the story
up.
>
>> I am so glad I am not a Christian, I would hate not being able to hit
>these
>> atheists who make fun of, and like to restrict the rights of the
>Christians.
>> So to all you newdow pricks out there who are offended by a couple of
>words
>> in the pledge because you are so intolerant, stand by to get the kicking
>you
>> all deserve.
>
>Dude, you threw eggs. Not quite the "tea party" you think it is.
-
zepp
>> And that, folks, is the real meaning of the SeasonŽ for those who want
>> no separation of church and state. Happy Holidays, and LintŽ bless us
>> every one!
>
>Slap an atheist leftist for the hell of it, you have the right to express
>your thoughts, just like they do.
Speaking of egg nog, I think Dana's been into his a bit too heavily...
>>
>>
>>
>> Liz #658 BAAWA
>>
>> "LintaneticsŽ" by L<dot> iz
>> A guide to a cleaner, brighter laundry.
>> Guaranteed to remove lamb's blood stains.
>
-
zepp
Ah, yes. Once again. Dana upholds the cross and the flag by behaving
like a spiteful coward.
>
>> >Atheism teaches that there is no God, hence no God-given rights. That
>> >ideology coupled with a system that believed in the superiority of the
>state
>> >at the expense of the individual was murderously synergistic.
>
-
Wolf333
Though I don't have any pictures of anything dipped in urine and shit (where
do you get these ideas?), I do happen do have a picture of myself with egg
on my face... it was Denny's, 3a.m... you know how it is.
And dipping a crucifix into a bucket of urine is a wee bit different than
hitting a human being with eggs.
BTW... WTF are you dana? You claim to not be a theist, but you have a level
of hatred towards atheists that is... well, it's fucking insane.
>
>
>
> > > I am so glad I am not a Christian, I would hate not being able to hit
> > these
> > > atheists who make fun of, and like to restrict the rights of the
> > Christians.
> > > So to all you newdow pricks out there who are offended by a couple of
> > words
> > > in the pledge because you are so intolerant, stand by to get the
kicking
> > you
> > > all deserve.
>
>
--
Al Klein
alt.atheism:
>So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the heads
>and clothes of those intolerant atheists.
That's aggravated assault. It could be upped to "with intent to
create grievous bodily harm". I hope someone recognized you and
presses charges.
--
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he
unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
-- Bertrand Russell.
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rukbat at optonline dot net
Mark K. Bilbo
Next it'll be the camps with the funny showers eh?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
Mark K. Bilbo
> It is not assault,
Yes, it is. Ask a lawyer.
Mark K. Bilbo
> BTW... WTF are you dana? You claim to not be a theist, but you have a level
> of hatred towards atheists that is... well, it's fucking insane.
Part of the new, emerging religion called "hate."
Dana is one of those people that just *enjoys hate. And as the extreme
right wing in the US is trying to whip up that segment of the population
into hating "liberals" (which may or may not be actual liberals, the
target isn't all that important), that's who it's become acceptable to
just revel in hating.
Atheists are perceived as "liberals." Even if they're Libertarians or
something. Doesn't matter. Ideology is irrelevant. The hate is for the
sake of hate.
And Godwin be damned, this really *is what it looked like in the early
days of the Nazi movement.
Denis Loubet
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message
news:vukdjrs...@corp.supernews.com...
> I am so glad I am not a Christian,
That's funny, you lie like one.
(snip)
--
Denis Loubet
dlo...@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
dpr
Not really, it is art.
>
> BTW... WTF are you dana? You claim to not be a theist, but you have a
level
> of hatred towards atheists that is... well, it's fucking insane.
Lets specify here. Not all atheists, just the secular humanist types.
Now if the atheist actually has no belief in religion, nor does he/she
involve himself/herself in attacking or insulting the religious, I have no
issues with that kind of atheist. The one's I take issue with are the one's
like Newdow, and others who are actively attacking the religious in America.
Those that complain about nativity scenes, or the phrase under God in the
pledge, etc. Those kind of atheists need to learn some tolerance.
Also I never claimed to not be a theist, although deism is more to what I
believe, I have only claimed not to be a Christian.
And mostly because I do not turn the other cheek, nor do I believe the Bible
is in-errant. I think the Bible has some good teachings, but it also has
some stuff I have issues with, as well as the fact the bible has been
interpreted my man many times now, hence it's meaning has been diluted.
As long as the atheists attack the religious, I will attack the atheists. I
think that is fair. Since the religious will not fight, I will fight for
them. I myself think the Christians need to ditch their turn the other cheek
stuff, and fight back against what you atheists are doing to them in
America.
dpr
news:pan.2003.12.25....@il.huh...
> And so upon Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:36:22 -0900 didst dpr speak thusly:
>
> > It is not assault,
>
> Yes, it is. Ask a lawyer.
No it is not.
Besides what does a lawyer know, they are just greedy SOB's looking for a
quick buck out of deep pockets. Lawyers do not care about justice or
fairness.
dpr
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:08:39 -0600, "Wolf333"
> <wolf...@spaM.excite.com> wrote:
>
> >"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message
> >news:vukdjrs...@corp.supernews.com...
> >> Today was an excellent day for expressing our first amendment rights.
We
> >had
> >> some atheists protesting the nativity and a Christmas decorations being
> >> displayed on public property.
> >> So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the
> >heads
> >> and clothes of those intolerant atheists. You will be surprised how
quick
> >> that gook freezes in this temperture. Any way in the shuffle some
atheists
> >> slipped and a few of them suffered some broken bones and noses from
> >slipping
> >> into our fists.
> >
> >Hmmm... nope... I don't recall assault being one of the rights guaranteed
> >under the 1st.
> >And eggs? What kind of pathetic fascist uses eggs? What, did you have to
> >hock your jack boots to afford hungry man dinners?
>
> I got curious and Googled the news.
Good for you. Not all the news makes it on to Google.
Especially news from small rural areas.
dpr
look it is the fat illegal canadian.
Mark K. Bilbo
> "Mark K. Bilbo" <no...@il.huh> wrote in message
> news:pan.2003.12.25....@il.huh...
>> And so upon Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:36:22 -0900 didst dpr speak thusly:
>>
>> > It is not assault,
>>
>> Yes, it is. Ask a lawyer.
>
> No it is not.
> Besides what does a lawyer know, they are just greedy SOB's looking for a
> quick buck out of deep pockets. Lawyers do not care about justice or
> fairness.
Sorry but, yeah, you could be arrested and charged.
Shrug.
And, yes, Dana, we all know you hate everybody and everything and
everybody and everything is wrong except you. You've told everybody that
so many times, how could we have missed it?
dpr
Hey fatman, go back to Canada.
dpr
news:ltikuvgjt15ec294s...@Pern.rk...
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:08:43 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> posted to
> alt.atheism:
>
> >So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the
heads
> >and clothes of those intolerant atheists.
>
> That's aggravated assault.
Nope it is art, and freedom of expression.
dpr
news:pan.2003.12.25....@il.huh...
Before you all start feeding the Christians back to the Tigers, like some of
you have already called for.
Al Klein
alt.atheism:
>It is not assault, it is art
The same kind of art as carving a picture on your face, Dana. Just
art.
--
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but
not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."
-A. Einstein (1929 -- Einstein Archive 33-272)
Al Klein
<wolf...@spaM.excite.com> posted to alt.atheism:
>BTW... WTF are you dana? You claim to not be a theist, but you have a level
>of hatred towards atheists that is... well, it's fucking insane.
You just answered your own question.
--
"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the
type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his
physical death is also beyond my comprehension,...; such notions are for the fears or
absurd egoism of feeble souls."
- Albert Einstein
Roger
Only not as nice or as smart.
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message
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raven1
>I am so glad I am not a Christian
I'm glad you're not a Christian too. Most of them wouldn't want
anything to do with a dick like you either.
---
ROT-13 on Email to reply.
Roger
news:1cqkuvk9vtqjiar8a...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:08:43 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote:
>
> >I am so glad I am not a Christian
>
> I'm glad you're not a Christian too. Most of them wouldn't want
> anything to do with a dick like you either.
Amen.
Mark K. Bilbo
>
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:08:39 -0600, "Wolf333"
> <wolf...@spaM.excite.com> wrote:
>
>>"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message
>>news:vukdjrs...@corp.supernews.com...
>>> Today was an excellent day for expressing our first amendment rights. We
>>had
>>> some atheists protesting the nativity and a Christmas decorations being
>>> displayed on public property.
>>> So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the
>>heads
>>> and clothes of those intolerant atheists. You will be surprised how quick
>>> that gook freezes in this temperture. Any way in the shuffle some atheists
>>> slipped and a few of them suffered some broken bones and noses from
>>slipping
>>> into our fists.
>>
>>Hmmm... nope... I don't recall assault being one of the rights guaranteed
>>under the 1st.
>>And eggs? What kind of pathetic fascist uses eggs? What, did you have to
>>hock your jack boots to afford hungry man dinners?
>
> I got curious and Googled the news. It looks like Dana made the story
> up.
Dana? Lie?
Shocked. Shocked I am. Shocked I say.
Sean C
<zeppn...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
> I got curious and Googled the news. It looks like Dana made the story
> up.
It looks like a revenge fantasy from Der Scheissemeister.
Sean C
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zepp
<cflpurq...@synfuznvy.pbz> wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:08:43 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote:
>
>>I am so glad I am not a Christian
>
>I'm glad you're not a Christian too. Most of them wouldn't want
>anything to do with a dick like you either.
And merry fucking ho, ho, ho to you too, Jasper.
>
>
>---
>
>ROT-13 on Email to reply.
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zepp
Something like that would. You made it up.
>
>> >
>> >> I am so glad I am not a Christian, I would hate not being able to hit
>> >these
>> >> atheists who make fun of, and like to restrict the rights of the
>> >Christians.
>> >> So to all you newdow pricks out there who are offended by a couple of
>> >words
>> >> in the pledge because you are so intolerant, stand by to get the
>kicking
>> >you
>> >> all deserve.
>> >
>
-
Douglas Berry
called by some "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> came forth and told this tale in
alt.atheism
>"Mark K. Bilbo" <no...@il.huh> wrote in message
>news:pan.2003.12.25....@il.huh...
>> And so upon Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:36:22 -0900 didst dpr speak thusly:
>>
>> > It is not assault,
>>
>> Yes, it is. Ask a lawyer.
>
>No it is not.
Yes it, is.
>Besides what does a lawyer know, they are just greedy SOB's looking for a
>quick buck out of deep pockets. Lawyers do not care about justice or
>fairness.
OK, then call your local police department or DA's office.
--
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Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
Douglas Berry
called by some "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> came forth and told this tale in
alt.atheism
>Slap an atheist leftist for the hell of it, you have the right to express
>your thoughts, just like they do.
Cool, do it to me.
You will never regain full use of that arm again. Maybe, after
several surgeries and months of painful therapy, you might be able to
dress yourself. But forget about signalling touchdowns.
But it's OK, because I'll just be expressing my opinion, right?
And my kicking out your teeth? Considerthat the frame to my work of
art.
I'm not kidding Dana, I am fully capable of, and trained to do shit
like this. I've done it to would-be gay-bashers in the past.
Still think assault is funny?
Douglas Berry
called by some "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> came forth and told this tale in
alt.atheism
>"Al Klein" <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
Not if it was done without the other parties' consent.
zepp
wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:08:43 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> posted to
>alt.atheism:
>
>>So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the heads
>>and clothes of those intolerant atheists.
>
>That's aggravated assault. It could be upped to "with intent to
>create grievous bodily harm". I hope someone recognized you and
>presses charges.
He made the story up. He's drunk, and wants a little attention.
dpr
news:1e2luvsme4frsm5kq...@4ax.com...
> Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:18:24 -0900, a stranger
> called by some "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> came forth and told this tale in
> alt.atheism
>
> >"Al Klein" <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
> >news:ltikuvgjt15ec294s...@Pern.rk...
> >> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:08:43 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> posted to
> >> alt.atheism:
> >>
> >> >So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the
> >heads
> >> >and clothes of those intolerant atheists.
> >>
> >> That's aggravated assault.
> >
> >Nope it is art, and freedom of expression.
>
> Not if it was done without the other parties' consent.
Tell that to Newdow, and other intolerant atheists.
Roger
> "Douglas Berry" <pengu...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
> news:1e2luvsme4frsm5kq...@4ax.com...
> > Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:18:24 -0900, a stranger
> > called by some "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> came forth and told this tale in
> > alt.atheism
> >
> > >"Al Klein" <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
> > >news:ltikuvgjt15ec294s...@Pern.rk...
> > >> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:08:43 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> posted to
> > >> alt.atheism:
> > >>
> > >> >So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on
the
> > >heads
> > >> >and clothes of those intolerant atheists.
> > >>
> > >> That's aggravated assault.
> > >
> > >Nope it is art, and freedom of expression.
> >
> > Not if it was done without the other parties' consent.
>
> Tell that to Newdow, and other intolerant atheists.
Did he hurt your little feelings? Did he make you cry?
Haaaa ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
dpr
news:XLwGb.1964$WQ3....@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...
Nope, but he will be crying soon enough.
Liz
in news message <6a2luvgv819gsq2kt...@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:37:40 -0500, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:08:43 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> posted to
>>alt.atheism:
>>
>>>So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the heads
>>>and clothes of those intolerant atheists.
>>
>>That's aggravated assault. It could be upped to "with intent to
>>create grievous bodily harm". I hope someone recognized you and
>>presses charges.
>
>He made the story up. He's drunk, and wants a little attention.
That's pathetic when a person is so starved for company on Christmas
Eve that he has to incite people with lies so that they pay attention
to him. He must be just as nasty in real life as he is on usenet. It
is no wonder that no one wants to spend any time with him.
My holiday wish for him is that he finds the attention he so ardently
seeks.
Liz #658 BAAWA
"Lintanetics®" by L<dot> iz
A guide to a cleaner, brighter laundry.
Guaranteed to remove lamb's blood stains.
Steve Knight
snip
>So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the heads
>and clothes of those intolerant atheists.
Liar.
Atheists have superior intellect. We do not go out into -20 degree
weather to complain about your dead stick boy. It's not that
important.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
John Baker
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message
news:vul5sq2...@corp.supernews.com...
> news:1e2luvsme4frsm5kq...@4ax.com...
> > Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:18:24 -0900, a stranger
> > called by some "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> came forth and told this tale in
> > alt.atheism
> >
> > >"Al Klein" <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
> > >news:ltikuvgjt15ec294s...@Pern.rk...
> > >> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:08:43 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> posted to
> > >> alt.atheism:
> > >>
> > >> >So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on
the
> > >heads
> > >> >and clothes of those intolerant atheists.
> > >>
> > >> That's aggravated assault.
> > >
> > >Nope it is art, and freedom of expression.
> >
> > Not if it was done without the other parties' consent.
>
> Tell that to Newdow, and other intolerant atheists.
You're a fucking liar, Dana. No atheist would be stupid enough to be out in
that kind of weather. LOL!
Douglas Berry
called by some "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> came forth and told this tale in
alt.atheism
>> Not if it was done without the other parties' consent.
>
>Tell that to Newdow, and other intolerant atheists.
Ah, and when has he physically assaulted you?
Being spanked in Usenet for being an idiot is not a crime, it's a
public service. Man, not even having the balls to actually go out and
egg people, but making shit up about it, that's pretty sad. I
evidently had more balls at 14 than you have now.
dpr
"Steve Knight" <woo...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:6juluvsugre6ootbe...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:08:43 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote:
>
> snip
>
> >So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the
heads
> >and clothes of those intolerant atheists.
>
> Liar.
>
> Atheists have superior intellect.
No they do not.
dpr
news:%REGb.18838$T2....@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
>
> "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message
> news:vul5sq2...@corp.supernews.com...
> > "Douglas Berry" <pengu...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:1e2luvsme4frsm5kq...@4ax.com...
> > > Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:18:24 -0900, a stranger
> > > called by some "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> came forth and told this tale in
> > > alt.atheism
> > >
> > > >"Al Klein" <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
> > > >news:ltikuvgjt15ec294s...@Pern.rk...
> > > >> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:08:43 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> posted to
> > > >> alt.atheism:
> > > >>
> > > >> >So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on
> the
> > > >heads
> > > >> >and clothes of those intolerant atheists.
> > > >>
> > > >> That's aggravated assault.
> > > >
> > > >Nope it is art, and freedom of expression.
> > >
> > > Not if it was done without the other parties' consent.
> >
> > Tell that to Newdow, and other intolerant atheists.
>
> You're a fucking liar, Dana. No atheist would be stupid enough to be out
in
> that kind of weather. LOL!
That is normal weather for up here. Hell the childrens dog sled races are
cancelled when it hits -20, so at -15 the kids are out playing.
Al Klein
alt.atheism:
>"Al Klein" <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
>news:ltikuvgjt15ec294s...@Pern.rk...
>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:08:43 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> posted to
>> alt.atheism:
>> >So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the heads
>> >and clothes of those intolerant atheists.
>> That's aggravated assault.
>Nope it is art, and freedom of expression.
Remind me of that when I draw the mark of idiocy on your face with a
machete.
--
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but
not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."
-A. Einstein (1929 -- Einstein Archive 33-272)
Al Klein
to alt.atheism:
>"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message
>news:vul5sq2...@corp.supernews.com...
>> Tell that to Newdow, and other intolerant atheists.
>Did he hurt your little feelings? Did he make you cry?
He's not letting Dana force his religion on everyone else, poor Dana.
--
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious
conviction."
- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
Al Klein
alt.atheism:
>> > Tell that to Newdow, and other intolerant atheists.
>> Did he hurt your little feelings? Did he make you cry?
>Nope, but he will be crying soon enough.
You'd better hope that nothing questionable happens to him in the near
future. That was almost admissible.
--
"I see only with deep regret that God punishes so many of His children for their
numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion,
only His nonexistence could excuse Him."
-A. Einstein (Letter to Edgar Meyer, Jan. 2, 1915)
Al Klein
>On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:37:40 -0500, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid>
>wrote:
>>On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:08:43 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> posted to
>>alt.atheism:
>>>So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the heads
>>>and clothes of those intolerant atheists.
>>That's aggravated assault. It could be upped to "with intent to
>>create grievous bodily harm". I hope someone recognized you and
>>presses charges.
>He made the story up. He's drunk, and wants a little attention.
Dana doesn't need "drunk" as an excuse for being an idiot.
--
Zymurgist # 2
Al Klein
alt.atheism:
>My holiday wish for him is that he finds the attention he so ardently
>seeks.
All he needs is $50, Liz, so that he can buy himself another
girlfriend. Some of them work on Christmas Eve.
--
"I see only with deep regret that God punishes so many of His children for their
numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion,
only His nonexistence could excuse Him."
-A. Einstein (Letter to Edgar Meyer, Jan. 2, 1915)
Liz
news message <jl5nuv87lav0eod1e...@Pern.rk> wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:12:29 GMT, Liz <ehu...@donotspam.com> posted to
>alt.atheism:
>
>>My holiday wish for him is that he finds the attention he so ardently
>>seeks.
>
>All he needs is $50, Liz, so that he can buy himself another
>girlfriend. Some of them work on Christmas Eve.
I didn't know ladies of the Eve worked that cheaply.
Liz #658 BAAWA
We may have lost our moral compass but we still have our chaste
sextant, our modest flashlight, our ethical pen knife, and our
virtuous canteen. -- jwkinraleigh
Brian Westley
>On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:03:19 -0500, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> in
>news message <jl5nuv87lav0eod1e...@Pern.rk> wrote:
>>On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:12:29 GMT, Liz <ehu...@donotspam.com> posted to
>>alt.atheism:
>>
>>>My holiday wish for him is that he finds the attention he so ardently
>>>seeks.
>>
>>All he needs is $50, Liz, so that he can buy himself another
>>girlfriend. Some of them work on Christmas Eve.
>I didn't know ladies of the Eve worked that cheaply.
Not for dana's scat fantasies, that's for sure.
---
Merlyn LeRoy
Al Klein
alt.atheism:
>On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:03:19 -0500, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> in
>news message <jl5nuv87lav0eod1e...@Pern.rk> wrote:
>>On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:12:29 GMT, Liz <ehu...@donotspam.com> posted to
>>alt.atheism:
>>>My holiday wish for him is that he finds the attention he so ardently
>>>seeks.
>>All he needs is $50, Liz, so that he can buy himself another
>>girlfriend. Some of them work on Christmas Eve.
>I didn't know ladies of the Eve worked that cheaply.
At the risk of offending a lady with my language, the only thing Dana
can get is a cheap whore.
--
"We should do unto others as we would want them to do unto us. If I were an unborn
fetus I would want others to use force to protect me, therefore using force against
abortionists is *justifiable homocide*."
- "Pro-Life" doctor killer and corpse Paul Hill
Al Klein
alt.atheism:
>Lets specify here. Not all atheists, just the secular humanist types.
>Now if the atheist actually has no belief in religion, nor does he/she
>involve himself/herself in attacking or insulting the religious, I have no
>issues with that kind of atheist.
And that kind of atheist has no issues with the kind of theist who
merely believes in his god.
> The one's I take issue with are the one's like Newdow
His issue is with theists like you who try to push their beliefs down
the throats of others.
>As long as the atheists attack the religious
Which will happen as long as the religious shove their religion down
our throats. You stop shoving, we stop keeping you from shoving. We
didn't start it, Dana, but we'll finish it.
--
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
- Isaac Asimov
Al Klein
alt.atheism:
>"Mark K. Bilbo" <no...@il.huh> wrote in message
>news:pan.2003.12.25....@il.huh...
>> And so upon Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:36:22 -0900 didst dpr speak thusly:
>> > It is not assault,
>> Yes, it is. Ask a lawyer.
>No it is not.
Dana, it is in every jurisdiction in the US. Claiming it isn't marks
you as a fool.
>Besides what does a lawyer know, they are just greedy SOB's looking for a
>quick buck out of deep pockets. Lawyers do not care about justice or
>fairness.
But they do know the law - which you don't.
--
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of
themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."
- Bertrand Russell
Al Klein
<pengu...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> posted to alt.atheism:
>Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:34:16 -0900, a stranger
>called by some "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> came forth and told this tale in
>alt.atheism
>>Slap an atheist leftist for the hell of it, you have the right to express
>>your thoughts, just like they do.
>Cool, do it to me.
>You will never regain full use of that arm again.
You'd leave the arm attached? I wouldn't.
--
"...I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand
why I dismiss yours."
- Stephen F. Roberts
Al Klein
alt.atheism:
>Hey fatman, go back to Canada.
Hey Dana, go crawl up someone's ass, mouth first.
--
"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the
type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his
physical death is also beyond my comprehension,...; such notions are for the fears or
absurd egoism of feeble souls."
- Albert Einstein
Al Klein
alt.atheism:
>"Steve Knight" <woo...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>news:6juluvsugre6ootbe...@4ax.com...
>> Atheists have superior intellect.
>No they do not.
We don't eat shit, Dana. That, alone, makes us intellectually
superior to you.
--
"I can't activate two neurons simultaneously, and I vote"
- The theistic majority
zepp
wrote:
>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 02:35:31 GMT, Liz <ehu...@donotspam.com> posted to
>alt.atheism:
>
>>On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:03:19 -0500, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> in
>>news message <jl5nuv87lav0eod1e...@Pern.rk> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:12:29 GMT, Liz <ehu...@donotspam.com> posted to
>>>alt.atheism:
>
>>>>My holiday wish for him is that he finds the attention he so ardently
>>>>seeks.
>
>>>All he needs is $50, Liz, so that he can buy himself another
>>>girlfriend. Some of them work on Christmas Eve.
>
>>I didn't know ladies of the Eve worked that cheaply.
>
>At the risk of offending a lady with my language, the only thing Dana
>can get is a cheap whore.
Well, since the only thing Dana would WANT would be a cheap whore,
that works out rather nicely, doesn't it?
Erica
Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:12:58 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> posted to
> alt.atheism:
>
> >Lets specify here. Not all atheists, just the secular humanist types.
> >Now if the atheist actually has no belief in religion, nor does he/she
> >involve himself/herself in attacking or insulting the religious, I have no
> >issues with that kind of atheist.
>
> And that kind of atheist has no issues with the kind of theist who
> merely believes in his god.
>
> > The one's I take issue with are the one's like Newdow
>
> His issue is with theists like you who try to push their beliefs down
> the throats of others.
>
> >As long as the atheists attack the religious
>
> Which will happen as long as the religious shove their religion down
> our throats. You stop shoving, we stop keeping you from shoving. We
> didn't start it, Dana, but we'll finish it.
Oh boy, are you guys playing "Israel on the West Bank"? Can I be the
suicide bomber. Can I, can I, huh?
Sorry, that's just my vague impression of the retaliation game. Granted,
certain theists are probably building illegal settlements on your land
(ie bugging the crap out of you). I'd say their purpose was just to save
y'all from the eternal barbie. You know, love thy enemies and all that.
But, sadly, the purpose seems to be the big "neener, neener" instead.
But, even though I can dig where you're coming from, doesn't tit for tat
just escalate things? What about the golden rule? It's an equal
opportunity rule, perfectly acceptable outside of theology, and possibly
originating before Christianity, or so I'm told.
The other image I have is a football one. You know how one player will
start something, but the ref always seems to catch the second man, the
one who retaliates. Meaning that here, when someone retaliates, and
someone else lurks, all they see is the anger and the attacking, not
what started it. Don't you think that might be a bit off-putting, and
contributing to a general image and reputation of atheism that might not
be what y'all want to project? One of anger, hate and occasional
foulness?
(rodneyking)Can't we all just get along?(/rodneyking)
Mark K. Bilbo
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:14:16 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> posted to
> alt.atheism:
>
>>"Mark K. Bilbo" <no...@il.huh> wrote in message
>>news:pan.2003.12.25....@il.huh...
>>> And so upon Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:36:22 -0900 didst dpr speak thusly:
>
>>> > It is not assault,
>
>>> Yes, it is. Ask a lawyer.
>
>>No it is not.
>
> Dana, it is in every jurisdiction in the US. Claiming it isn't marks
> you as a fool.
He has so many marks of a fool, there's not much room left for new ones...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
dpr
news:erjnuv8io3f96bfog...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:59:05 -0500, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 02:35:31 GMT, Liz <ehu...@donotspam.com> posted to
> >alt.atheism:
> >
> >>On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:03:19 -0500, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> in
> >>news message <jl5nuv87lav0eod1e...@Pern.rk> wrote:
> >>>On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:12:29 GMT, Liz <ehu...@donotspam.com> posted to
> >>>alt.atheism:
> >
> >>>>My holiday wish for him is that he finds the attention he so ardently
> >>>>seeks.
> >
> >>>All he needs is $50, Liz, so that he can buy himself another
> >>>girlfriend. Some of them work on Christmas Eve.
> >
> >>I didn't know ladies of the Eve worked that cheaply.
> >
> >At the risk of offending a lady with my language, the only thing Dana
> >can get is a cheap whore.
>
> Well, since the only thing Dana would WANT would be a cheap whore,
My my, just look at the compassion from the left. Why does the left have the
desire to lable everyone with value designations.
Is there a difference between a person weather they are cheap or expensive.
And why must they pick on the poor ladies that can be seen to be more honest
in their relationships than some married ladies. At least the Whore is up
front about it, it is all about the money, you have quite a few ladies who
indeed can themseleves be called whores as they do not love their mate, only
his money.
Like the jewlery commercials I heard over this past Christmas season, since
when is an expensive piece of jewlery an expression of love. Love is based
on actions and deeds a person does for another, love cannot be bought.
Al Klein
<scribe53...@yahoo.com> posted to alt.atheism:
>Sorry, that's just my vague impression of the retaliation game. Granted,
>certain theists are probably building illegal settlements on your land
>(ie bugging the crap out of you). I'd say their purpose was just to save
>y'all from the eternal barbie.
If there were one it would still be our choice whether to be saved
from it or not. Since there is none ...
>But, even though I can dig where you're coming from, doesn't tit for tat
>just escalate things?
No, it just kills time. Don't take usenet so seriously.
> What about the golden rule?
I'm not a member of any group that claims it for its own. If Dana is
let him apply it, although I wasn't aware that Coprophagia had a
philosophy.
>It's an equal
>opportunity rule, perfectly acceptable outside of theology, and possibly
>originating before Christianity, or so I'm told.
It originated with Hammurabi, so it's MUCH older than Christianity -
nearly 2 millennia older. And that's only the first set of laws we
know about. A philosophy like that doesn't spring up overnight.
>The other image I have is a football one. You know how one player will
>start something, but the ref always seems to catch the second man, the
>one who retaliates. Meaning that here, when someone retaliates, and
>someone else lurks, all they see is the anger and the attacking, not
>what started it. Don't you think that might be a bit off-putting, and
>contributing to a general image and reputation of atheism that might not
>be what y'all want to project?
No, since there's nothing I want to project, or not project. I'm not
a projector. Atheism isn't a philosophy, it's not a club, it's
nothing more than is lack of belief in Santa Claus.
>(rodneyking)Can't we all just get along?(/rodneyking)
Tell that to the burglar you find in your living room - it's the same
situation. The purpose of alt.atheism is NOT for theists to tell us
how wrong we are, regardless of what they think the situation is. If
we wanted to read what they say, we'd be reading in the theistic news
groups.
--
"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the
type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his
physical death is also beyond my comprehension,...; such notions are for the fears or
absurd egoism of feeble souls."
- Albert Einstein
Al Klein
alt.atheism:
>My my, just look at the compassion from the left.
We don't claim to be compassionate, so why would your accusation of
lack of compassion mean anything?
> Why does the left have the
>desire to lable everyone with value designations.
Probably for the same reason Christians do.
>Is there a difference between a person weather they are cheap or expensive.
>And why must they pick on the poor ladies that can be seen to be more honest
>in their relationships than some married ladies. At least the Whore is up
>front about it, it is all about the money, you have quite a few ladies who
>indeed can themseleves be called whores as they do not love their mate, only
>his money.
The point was about you, Dana, not about whores. But, as always, it
went right over your head.
>Like the jewlery commercials I heard over this past Christmas season, since
>when is an expensive piece of jewlery an expression of love. Love is based
>on actions and deeds a person does for another, love cannot be bought.
What your whores do has nothing to do with love of you - it's done for
the love of your money.
--
"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education and social
ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he
had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
-Albert Einstein
Gray Shockley
(in message <d53puvsedrkhqdvqa...@Pern.rk>):
> No, since there's nothing I want to project, or not project. I'm not
> a projector. Atheism isn't a philosophy, it's not a club, it's
> nothing more than is lack of belief in Santa Claus.
That's what you get for not coming to the conventions and participating in
the orgies.
The only reason that it's still called the Hellfire Club is in respect and
deference to ole Ben, the AC-DC guy.
- - Gray
zepp
>"zepp" <zeppn...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message
>news:erjnuv8io3f96bfog...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:59:05 -0500, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 02:35:31 GMT, Liz <ehu...@donotspam.com> posted to
>> >alt.atheism:
>> >
>> >>On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:03:19 -0500, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> in
>> >>news message <jl5nuv87lav0eod1e...@Pern.rk> wrote:
>> >>>On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:12:29 GMT, Liz <ehu...@donotspam.com> posted to
>> >>>alt.atheism:
>> >
>> >>>>My holiday wish for him is that he finds the attention he so ardently
>> >>>>seeks.
>> >
>> >>>All he needs is $50, Liz, so that he can buy himself another
>> >>>girlfriend. Some of them work on Christmas Eve.
>> >
>> >>I didn't know ladies of the Eve worked that cheaply.
>> >
>> >At the risk of offending a lady with my language, the only thing Dana
>> >can get is a cheap whore.
>>
>> Well, since the only thing Dana would WANT would be a cheap whore,
>
>
>My my,
Oh yes. My my.
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Erica
Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:40:08 -0600, Erica
> <scribe53...@yahoo.com> posted to alt.atheism:
>
>
> No, it just kills time. Don't take usenet so seriously.
>
Yeah, I keep forgetting, even though I say it myself. It's Usenet. I
just hate to see folks going at it. I try not to say things to folks
that I wouldn't have the guts to say in person.
Doesn't always come out that way, though. I think I go into "preachy"
mode sometimes. At least when I re-read myself, that's what it looks
like. Might be because I write better than I talk, and come out more
self-assured. I'm not, really. Still trying to figure things out, just
like everyone else.
I do prefer more intellectual fare, though. Maybe I'll just have to come
here for fun, and go elsewhere for intelligent debate. There are a
couple of interesting YABB boards (theistweb or skepticweb, err, or
something like that), but they're almost too stuffy.
>
> >(rodneyking)Can't we all just get along?(/rodneyking)
>
> Tell that to the burglar you find in your living room - it's the same
> situation. The purpose of alt.atheism is NOT for theists to tell us
> how wrong we are, regardless of what they think the situation is. If
> we wanted to read what they say, we'd be reading in the theistic news
> groups.
We had the same situation on alt.music.queen. A group of folks getting
along fairly well, then suddenly some wanker comes in and tells us what
losers we are, how Queen isn't a band any more, and how we should listen
to real music. Most of us felt the group was for Queen *fans*, but one
of us AMQ'ers pointed out that the group wasn't called "alt.fan.queen"
and was therefore open to anyone who wanted to discuss Queen. And let's
face it, if the hater wants to come in, there's nothing stopping him, no
matter how unpleasant we might try to make it for him.
As you say, this is usenet. Who cares what the purpose of *any* group
was *supposed* to be. It is what it is. So we deal as best we can, I
suppose. I flash peace signs, you rattle cages. To each his own.
Al Klein
<gray...@cybercoffee.org> posted to alt.atheism:
>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 13:43:25 -0600, Al Klein wrote
>(in message <d53puvsedrkhqdvqa...@Pern.rk>):
>> No, since there's nothing I want to project, or not project. I'm not
>> a projector. Atheism isn't a philosophy, it's not a club, it's
>> nothing more than is lack of belief in Santa Claus.
>That's what you get for not coming to the conventions and participating in
>the orgies.
I never got the memos about the conventions. As far as the orgies, I
was the guy using the horsehair flogger.
--
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid
consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and
ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who
works on the basis of reward and punishment. "
- Letter to M. Berkowitz, October 25, 1950; Einstein Archive 59-215
Al Klein
<scribe53...@yahoo.com> posted to alt.atheism:
>In article <d53puvsedrkhqdvqa...@Pern.rk>,
> Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:40:08 -0600, Erica
>> <scribe53...@yahoo.com> posted to alt.atheism:
>> No, it just kills time. Don't take usenet so seriously.
>Yeah, I keep forgetting, even though I say it myself. It's Usenet. I
>just hate to see folks going at it. I try not to say things to folks
>that I wouldn't have the guts to say in person.
Anything I say to Dana on usenet I'd say to his face. If he cries, he
cries.
>Doesn't always come out that way, though. I think I go into "preachy"
>mode sometimes.
If you do, rest assured that someone will call you on it. :)
>At least when I re-read myself, that's what it looks
>like. Might be because I write better than I talk, and come out more
>self-assured. I'm not, really. Still trying to figure things out, just
>like everyone else.
Yeah, most of us are still trying to find out what the questions are.
>> >(rodneyking)Can't we all just get along?(/rodneyking)
>> Tell that to the burglar you find in your living room - it's the same
>> situation. The purpose of alt.atheism is NOT for theists to tell us
>> how wrong we are, regardless of what they think the situation is. If
>> we wanted to read what they say, we'd be reading in the theistic news
>> groups.
>We had the same situation on alt.music.queen. A group of folks getting
>along fairly well, then suddenly some wanker comes in and tells us what
>losers we are, how Queen isn't a band any more, and how we should listen
>to real music. Most of us felt the group was for Queen *fans*, but one
>of us AMQ'ers pointed out that the group wasn't called "alt.fan.queen"
>and was therefore open to anyone who wanted to discuss Queen. And let's
>face it, if the hater wants to come in, there's nothing stopping him, no
>matter how unpleasant we might try to make it for him.
And the only thing you can do is ignore him or tear him apart. I
prefer the exercise.
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus (2nd century C.E.)
Randy Day
>
> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:38:08 -0600, Gray Shockley
> <gray...@cybercoffee.org> posted to alt.atheism:
>
> >On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 13:43:25 -0600, Al Klein wrote
> >(in message <d53puvsedrkhqdvqa...@Pern.rk>):
>
> >> No, since there's nothing I want to project, or not project. I'm not
> >> a projector. Atheism isn't a philosophy, it's not a club, it's
> >> nothing more than is lack of belief in Santa Claus.
>
> >That's what you get for not coming to the conventions and participating in
> >the orgies.
>
> I never got the memos about the conventions. As far as the orgies, I
> was the guy using the horsehair flogger.
Oh yes, thank you for reminding me. Your
technique needed a bit of work.
"Al Klein, please report to Disciplinary Dungeon
4 for Remedial Flogging Practice. That is all".
R
Atheist Chair,
EAC Disciplinary Committee
--
Al Klein
alt.atheism:
>That is normal weather for up here. Hell the childrens dog sled races are
>cancelled when it hits -20, so at -15 the kids are out playing.
Let's see.
In Nome, Alaska, at this moment, it's 30 above.
In Barrow, Alaska, it's 9 above. North of Barrow is ... well, Barrow
is as far north as you can go.
20 below? Where do you live, Dana? Northern Siberia? Mars?
Or the liars' colony?
--
"I have never imputed to Nature a purpose or a goal, or anything that could be under-
stood as anthropomorphic. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can
comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of
humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism."
- 1954 or 1955; quoted in Dukas and Hoffman _Albert Einstein the Human Side_, p. 39
zepp
wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:19:31 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> posted to
>alt.atheism:
>
>>That is normal weather for up here. Hell the childrens dog sled races are
>>cancelled when it hits -20, so at -15 the kids are out playing.
>
>Let's see.
>
>In Nome, Alaska, at this moment, it's 30 above.
>In Barrow, Alaska, it's 9 above. North of Barrow is ... well, Barrow
>is as far north as you can go.
>
>20 below? Where do you live, Dana? Northern Siberia? Mars?
>
>Or the liars' colony?
Fairbanks has been running between zero and minus 30 all week. Nine
above at Barror this time of year (night) is pretty unusually warm.
He mentioned that the days are about three hours long right now, so
Fairbanks is a pretty good match.
I remember some years back, this one guy -- like Dana, a pseudo
religious right wing whack job -- went up to the Bering Straits to
count Bowhead whales. He emailed us in So. Cal, rhapsodizing about
the midnight sun and how hard it was to sleep.
The only trouble was, not only was he at the Arctic circle, but it
was mid September. That time of year, the days are about 12 hours and
ten minutes long...
zepp
wrote:
>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:38:08 -0600, Gray Shockley
><gray...@cybercoffee.org> posted to alt.atheism:
>
>>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 13:43:25 -0600, Al Klein wrote
>>(in message <d53puvsedrkhqdvqa...@Pern.rk>):
>
>>> No, since there's nothing I want to project, or not project. I'm not
>>> a projector. Atheism isn't a philosophy, it's not a club, it's
>>> nothing more than is lack of belief in Santa Claus.
>
>>That's what you get for not coming to the conventions and participating in
>>the orgies.
>
>I never got the memos about the conventions. As far as the orgies, I
>was the guy using the horsehair flogger.
Where you the one who kept shouting "Oh whoever! Oh whoever!" at
orgasm?
dpr
news:fsqpuvg222fjfoi14...@Pern.rk...
> On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:19:31 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> posted to
> alt.atheism:
>
> >That is normal weather for up here. Hell the childrens dog sled races are
> >cancelled when it hits -20, so at -15 the kids are out playing.
>
> Let's see.
>
> In Nome, Alaska, at this moment, it's 30 above.
> In Barrow, Alaska, it's 9 above. North of Barrow is ... well, Barrow
> is as far north as you can go.
>
> 20 below? Where do you live, Dana? Northern Siberia? Mars?
-26 in Fairbanks at 6pm.
The interior of Alaska where Fairbanks is located has the most extreme
weather swings in the state. Fairbanks has hit close to 100 in the summer,
and has seen -60 in the winter.
The Alaska range keeps the weather from the Pacific away from us, and the
Brooks range keeps the weather from Barrow away from us. The interior is
like a bowl between these two ranges, hence the heat in the summer, and the
extreme cold in the winter.
In the winter we also get ice fog because of the inversion layer. Ends up
forcing all the exhaust closer to the ground, from the hills outside of
Fairbanks, you can see all the streets due to the haze that outlines the
street grid, and just hangs there.
All in all not a bad place to benot a lot of good jobs, but enough to keep
the majority employed, but the lifestyle up here is great.
Al Klein
posted to alt.atheism:
>I remember some years back, this one guy -- like Dana, a pseudo
>religious right wing whack job -- went up to the Bering Straits to
>count Bowhead whales. He emailed us in So. Cal, rhapsodizing about
>the midnight sun and how hard it was to sleep.
>The only trouble was, not only was he at the Arctic circle, but it
>was mid September. That time of year, the days are about 12 hours and
>ten minutes long...
Yeah, it's difficult to get the facts straight when you make things
up. That's why people like Earl and Dana are such laughingstocks.
--
"...I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand
why I dismiss yours."
- Stephen F. Roberts
Al Klein
posted to alt.atheism:
>> I never got the memos about the conventions. As far as the orgies, I
>> was the guy using the horsehair flogger.
>Oh yes, thank you for reminding me. Your
>technique needed a bit of work.
I wonder why none of the subs noticed. They all must have been in
sub-space.
--
"Damn. Looks like all of usenet agrees that you don't have the logical
faculties to prove the statement 'dogshit is not peanut butter' if we
gave you a jar of each and a box of crackers" - John Hattan to Tichy
Al Klein
posted to alt.atheism:
>Where you the one who kept shouting "Oh whoever! Oh whoever!" at
>orgasm?
No, but thanks for the laugh. :)
--
"Damn. Looks like all of usenet agrees that you don't have the logical
faculties to prove the statement 'dogshit is not peanut butter' if we
gave you a jar of each and a box of crackers" - John Hattan to Tichy
Bob LeChevalier
>> 20 below? Where do you live, Dana? Northern Siberia? Mars?
>
>-26 in Fairbanks at 6pm.
The weather channel reports
http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/pastweather/USAK0083?when=122203&stn=1
Dec 22 high 3 low -11
Dec 23 high -10 low -23
Dec 24 high -12 low -28
Dec 25 high -9 low -14
(The temperatures measures at the AF base are somewhat higher than
these.)
6pm is well after sunset. I doubt that it was anywhere near -20
during the few hours of daylight. But the weather channel has a
forecasted low of -19, so I doubt that it was -26 at 6pm unless you
are using Celsius temperatures, which you aren't, given the following
paragraph:
>The interior of Alaska where Fairbanks is located has the most extreme
>weather swings in the state. Fairbanks has hit close to 100 in the summer,
>and has seen -60 in the winter.
Again, a liar.
Your statement said that it was "a fine day", and hence not 6PM, which
is not day when sunset is at 3:43PM. (You made your post at 4PM,
which appears to be around the warmest time of day).
>Today was an excellent day for expressing our first amendment rights. We had
>some atheists protesting the nativity and a Christmas decorations being
>displayed on public property.
>So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the heads
>and clothes of those intolerant atheists.
Your story has lost even more credibility.
Oh, and the police report in the Fairbanks paper reports things a lot
less newsworthy than protesters or assaults on protesters:
http://www.news-miner.com/Stories/0,1413,113%257E7244%257E1853593,00.html
But if you insist, there are a couple of emails given for reporters,
and I'm sure someone will find it in them to check with them if there
was such an "atheist protest" on Dec 24. Somehow, I rather doubt it.
lojbab
--
lojbab loj...@lojban.org
Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group
(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org
dpr
news:7r9quvsc2bov15hc9...@4ax.com...
> "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote:
> >> 20 below? Where do you live, Dana? Northern Siberia? Mars?
> >
> >-26 in Fairbanks at 6pm.
>
> The weather channel reports
-26
dpr
--
Atheism teaches that there is no God, hence no God-given rights. That
ideology coupled with a system that believed in the superiority of the state
at the expense of the individual was murderously synergistic.
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message
news:vuqfv2m...@corp.supernews.com...
What bob does not know is that Fairbanks has a very severe inversion layer.
While downtown fairbanks may be in the -20's, up in the hills around town
may be at 0.
North Pole Alaska which is approx 13 miles south of fairbanks is usually 10
degrees cooler than Fairbanks. Yes this is the North Pole where the kids all
send their letters to santa. The post office uses volunteers to postmark the
Santa letters, and to help answer the letters. Both the Army and AF base, as
well as the local communities all help out.
Back to the inversion layer, even here in the dead of winter when it is -20
and lower you can see the heat waves from the inversion layer as you drive
on long straight sections of the highway. The layer also acts as a magnifier
for the Alaska range, distorting the image of the range. Actually pretty
neat stuff. To actually see the different layers of cold air is pretty neat.
Zone 222 - Middle Tanana Valley | Printable Version |
AKZ222-271400-
MIDDLE TANANA VALLEY-
INCLUDING...FAIRBANKS...FORT WAINWRIGHT...EIELSON AFB...ESTER...
NORTH POLE...MOOSE CREEK...TWO RIVERS...FOX...CHATANIKA...CHENA
HOT SPRINGS...SOURDOUGH CAMP
400 PM AST FRI DEC 26 2003
.TONIGHT...PATCHY ICE FOG. OTHERWISE CLEAR. LOWS MOSTLY 20 TO 30
BELOW. LITTLE OR NO WIND.
.SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT...MOSTLY CLEAR. LIGHT WINDS. HIGHS 5
TO 20 BELOW. LOWS 10 TO 25 BELOW. MILDEST ON THE HILLS.
.SUNDAY...INCREASING CLOUDS AND WARMER. HIGHS 5 BELOW TO 10 ABOVE...
MILDEST ON THE HILLS. LIGHT WINDS.
.SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY...MOSTLY CLOUDY. LOWS 5 BELOW TO 10 ABOVE.
HIGHS 15 TO 30 ABOVE. MILDEST ON THE HILLS.
.TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY...MOSTLY CLOUDY. A CHANCE OF SNOW.
LOWS ZERO TO 15 ABOVE. HIGHS 5 TO 20 ABOVE.
.NEW YEARS DAY AND FRIDAY...MOSTLY CLOUDY. LOWS 10 TO 20 BELOW.
HIGHS ZERO TO 10 BELOW.
.< TEMPERATURE / PRECIPITATION
FAIRBANKS AIRPORT -27 -15 -23 0/ 0 0 0 0
>
>
Floyd Davidson
>On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:19:31 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> posted to
>alt.atheism:
>
>>That is normal weather for up here. Hell the childrens dog sled races are
>>cancelled when it hits -20, so at -15 the kids are out playing.
>
>Let's see.
>
>In Nome, Alaska, at this moment, it's 30 above.
>In Barrow, Alaska, it's 9 above. North of Barrow is ... well, Barrow
>is as far north as you can go.
>
>20 below? Where do you live, Dana? Northern Siberia? Mars?
>
>Or the liars' colony?
Well ain't this just quaint. I don't know where you got your figures
from, or if you just can't read! Here, let me show you the recorded
temperatures in Barrow for the past 24 hours. I have a program that
downloads this and archives it daily, from the NOAA website at
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/PABR.html
This is automatically reformatted for easier reading, but what will
notice is that the *highest* temperature recorded in Barrow during the
past 24 hours was -5F, and the hourly summary shows a -9F. The low
was -20F, and as you can see from the summary it has pretty much been
at about -15F almost all day and night.
Where ever it was that you got that +9F from, is simply *wrong*. The
last time it was above 0F here was on the 24th. It has been several
days since it the low wasn't at least -20F here.
Whatever, here's the current weather and a summary of the past
24 hours:
Barrow, Wiley Post-Will Rogers Memorial Airport, AK, United States
(PABR) 71-17-07N 156-45-57W 10M
Current time: Sat Dec 27 04:43:36 2003 AKST
Weather reported at: Sat Dec 27 04:18:00 2003 AKST
Wind : from the E (100 degrees) at 10 MPH (9 KT)
Visibility : 1 3/4 mile(s)
Sky conditions : partly cloudy
Weather : Mist
Temperature : -13 F (-25 C)
Windchill : -32 F (-36 C)
Dew Point : -18 F (-28 C)
Relative Humidity : 76%
Pressure (altimeter): 30.5 in. Hg (1032 hPa)
Observed : PABR 271318Z 10009KT 1 3/4SM BR SCT001
M25/M28 A3050 RMK AO2
Maximum and Minimum Temperatures
F (C) F (C) AKST
-15.0 (-26.1) -18.0 (-27.8) For 6 hours before Dec 27 02:53
-5.1 (-20.6) -20.0 (-28.9) For 24 hours before Dec 26 23:53
****** 24 Hour Summary ******
Time Temperature Wind Weather
AKST F (C) MPH
Dec 27 04:00 -13.0 (-25.0) E 10 mist
Dec 27 03:00 -13.0 (-25.0) E 12 mist
Dec 27 02:00 -17.0 (-27.2) E 12
Dec 27 01:00 -16.1 (-26.7) E 13
Dec 27 00:00 -16.1 (-26.7) E 09
Dec 26 23:00 -16.1 (-26.7) E 09
Dec 26 22:00 -17.0 (-27.2) E 09
Dec 26 21:00 -17.0 (-27.2) E 12
Dec 26 20:00 -17.0 (-27.2) E 09
Dec 26 19:00 -16.0 (-27.0) E 09 mist
Dec 26 18:00 -14.0 (-26.0) E 08 mist
Dec 26 17:00 -14.0 (-26.0) E 07 mist
Dec 26 16:00 -16.0 (-27.0) E 06 freezing fog
Dec 26 15:00 -16.1 (-26.7) E 03 freezing fog
Dec 26 14:00 -17.0 (-27.2) E 07 freezing fog
Dec 26 13:00 -18.0 (-28.0) E 06 freezing fog
Dec 26 12:00 -14.0 (-26.0) E 07 patches of fog; mist
Dec 26 11:00 -14.0 (-26.0) E 05 mist; patches of fog
Dec 26 10:00 -16.0 (-27.0) E 03 mist; patches of fog
Dec 26 09:00 -14.0 (-26.0) E 05 mist; patches of fog
Dec 26 08:00 -16.0 (-27.0) E 05 mist; patches of fog
Dec 26 07:00 -13.0 (-25.0) ENE 03 mist
Dec 26 06:00 -9.0 (-23.0) NE 03 freezing fog
Dec 26 05:00 -13.0 (-25.0) ENE 03 mist
But that's nothing! It *is* in fact just like Dana has said...
Fairbanks gets *colder* than Barrow. If you can't figure that
out, just ask and I'll be glad to explain the weather patterns
in both areas. I lived near Fairbanks for two decades and am
quite familiar with weather there.
Whatever, it is -29F in Fairbanks *right now*. Here's what
NOAA has for current data and a summary of the past 24 hours.
Fairbanks, Fairbanks International Airport, AK, United States
(PAFA) 64-48-14N 147-52-34W 140M
Current time: Sat Dec 27 04:50:16 2003 AKST
Weather reported at: Sat Dec 27 03:53:00 2003 AKST
Wind : Calm
Visibility : 10 mile(s)
Sky conditions : clear
Temperature : -29 F (-34 C)
Pressure (altimeter): 30.32 in. Hg (1026 hPa)
Observed : PAFA 271253Z 00000KT 10SM CLR M34/ A3032
RMK AO2 SLP289 T1344
Maximum and Minimum Temperatures
F (C) F (C) AKST
-25.1 (-31.7) -31.0 (-35.0) For 6 hours before Dec 27 02:53
-8.0 (-22.2) -29.9 (-34.4) For 24 hours before Dec 26 23:53
****** 24 Hour Summary ******
Time Temperature Wind Weather
AKST F (C) MPH
Dec 27 04:00 -29.0 (-34.0) Calm
Dec 27 03:00 -29.0 (-34.0) Calm
Dec 27 02:00 -29.0 (-33.9) Calm
Dec 27 01:00 -27.0 (-32.8) Calm
Dec 27 00:00 -29.0 (-33.9) Calm
Dec 26 23:00 -26.0 (-32.2) Calm
Dec 26 22:00 -26.0 (-32.2) Calm
Dec 26 21:00 -26.0 (-32.2) Calm
Dec 26 20:00 -24.0 (-31.1) Calm
Dec 26 19:00 -23.1 (-30.6) Calm
Dec 26 18:00 -24.0 (-31.1) Calm
Dec 26 17:00 -22.0 (-30.0) Calm
Dec 26 16:00 -20.0 (-28.9) Calm
Dec 26 15:00 -18.9 (-28.3) Calm
Dec 26 14:00 -18.9 (-28.3) Calm
Dec 26 13:00 -18.9 (-28.3) Calm
Dec 26 12:00 -16.1 (-26.7) Calm
Dec 26 11:00 -15.0 (-26.1) Calm
Dec 26 10:00 -9.0 (-22.8) Calm
Dec 26 09:00 -8.0 (-22.2) NNE 03
Dec 26 08:00 -9.0 (-22.8) Calm
Dec 26 07:00 -11.0 (-23.9) Calm
Dec 26 06:00 -16.1 (-26.7) Calm
Dec 26 05:00 No Data
As to Nome... the high temperature there in the past 24 hours is
the current +12F, so I have no idea where your 30F figure came
from.
Please tell us where you got all these bogus numbers so we can all
avoid being confused!
--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) fl...@barrow.com
Floyd Davidson
>
>Fairbanks has been running between zero and minus 30 all week. Nine
>above at Barror this time of year (night) is pretty unusually warm.
And of course it wasn't any 9 above here either!
>He mentioned that the days are about three hours long right now, so
>Fairbanks is a pretty good match.
Right now we get right at 3 hours of "light", but it is civil twilight,
as the sun won't come up until January 23rd.
>I remember some years back, this one guy -- like Dana, a pseudo
>religious right wing whack job --
Gee, I didn't know Dana was also a pseudo religious type too!
In addition to his well known politics of idiocy... though we
should note that he's been learning what the difference between
a "Right To Work" state is and what a good union is too! As in,
starvation wages in one and a decent future as a paid up union
member!
>went up to the Bering Straits to
>count Bowhead whales. He emailed us in So. Cal, rhapsodizing about
>the midnight sun and how hard it was to sleep.
>
>The only trouble was, not only was he at the Arctic circle, but it
>was mid September. That time of year, the days are about 12 hours and
>ten minutes long...
More like 13 hours (and 7 minutes at 66 degrees North on September
15th). But it is dark there from 10PM to 7AM (nautical twilight or
darker), so the story would indeed be totally bogus.
However! Did he tell you he saw bowhead whales in the Straits
in September? That in itself is a bit hilarious, since they
only get *here* in early October (from Canadian waters headed
for the Bering Sea). Maybe the ones the travel up along the
Siberian coast go through earlier, but I doubt it.
Floyd Davidson
>"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote:
>>> 20 below? Where do you live, Dana? Northern Siberia? Mars?
>>
>>-26 in Fairbanks at 6pm.
>
>The weather channel reports
>http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/pastweather/USAK0083?when=122203&stn=1
>Dec 22 high 3 low -11
>Dec 23 high -10 low -23
>Dec 24 high -12 low -28
>Dec 25 high -9 low -14
>
>(The temperatures measures at the AF base are somewhat higher than
>these.)
Well, so what? If you wait until it actually gets *cold*, you'll
find that the Eielson AFB temps are 5 to 15 degrees colder than
Fairbanks. The longer it stays cold, and the colder it is, the bigger
the difference.
Whatever, NOAA is reporting -31F in Fairbanks right now. I can't
imagine anyone there thinking that is unusual, or even cold. They can
literally go for weeks in January and February without ever getting
that warm.
>6pm is well after sunset. I doubt that it was anywhere near -20
>during the few hours of daylight. But the weather channel has a
>forecasted low of -19, so I doubt that it was -26 at 6pm unless you
>are using Celsius temperatures, which you aren't, given the following
>paragraph:
You're kind full of bullshit there Bob. This time of year it might
be -45F or even -55F in Fairbanks, right in the middle of the day!
Whatever, I posted the 24 hour summary for Fairbanks in another article,
and will only show here the part centered on 1PM, when the sun was as
high as it gets there.
AKST F
Dec 26 15:00 -18.9
Dec 26 14:00 -18.9
Dec 26 13:00 -18.9
Dec 26 12:00 -16.1
Hmmm... basically that's close enough (1.1 degrees off).
>>The interior of Alaska where Fairbanks is located has the most extreme
>>weather swings in the state. Fairbanks has hit close to 100 in the summer,
>>and has seen -60 in the winter.
>
>Again, a liar.
Well, damned, hit me with a stick! *YOU* are ignorant!
I lived in Salcha, 40 miles southwest of Fairbanks (on the other side
of Eielson AFB) for two decades. Let me tell you a couple things.
1) It gets warmer than 95 degrees in June, July, and August.
2) It gets down to -60 at the Fairbanks International Airport,
which is the *warmest* weather station in the area. It gets
down to -70 at most of the others.
>Your statement said that it was "a fine day", and hence not 6PM, which
>is not day when sunset is at 3:43PM. (You made your post at 4PM,
>which appears to be around the warmest time of day).
OK, so you don't know how to read Usenet headers. He posted it
a few minutes after 6 PM AKST. You also have a very strange
idea of what "a fine day" means! It doesn't refer to a fine
"period of sunlight". Or at least not to anybody I know! (We
haven't seen the sun for well over a month... does that mean
today wasn't a day???)
>>Today was an excellent day for expressing our first amendment rights. We had
>>some atheists protesting the nativity and a Christmas decorations being
>>displayed on public property.
>>So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the heads
>>and clothes of those intolerant atheists.
>
>Your story has lost even more credibility.
I don't think so. But Dana does credit himself as a total fool
when it comes to understanding what makes the world go around.
What else is new? He's been doing that for years... :-(
>Oh, and the police report in the Fairbanks paper reports things a lot
>less newsworthy than protesters or assaults on protesters:
>http://www.news-miner.com/Stories/0,1413,113%257E7244%257E1853593,00.html
>
>But if you insist, there are a couple of emails given for reporters,
>and I'm sure someone will find it in them to check with them if there
>was such an "atheist protest" on Dec 24. Somehow, I rather doubt it.
Who cares. Whatever foolishness he has posted is no reason for
*you* to post bogus shit too.
zepp
wrote:
He did claim to see one off the coast of BC on the way back, so he
might have been telling the truth about that. But the crap about the
"midnight sun" sorta lowered his credibility a bit.
I'm in Northern California these days, which has a much more
salubrious climate (18 above, no snow on the ground right now, sunrise
7:35, sunset 4:50), but I keep a wary eye on the weather in Fairbanks
and in the Gulf, because what's going on there can affect us here a
few days later. Alberta clippers out of interior Alaska meant for the
Dakotas sometimes miss and hit us instead, driving temps to ten below
and even twenty below. That's mild by your standards, but folks here
aren't used to it; the time it hit -21 (wind chill of -45) a third of
the town lost its plumbing because folks didn't know to crack their
taps. More frequently, cold will spill out of the interior, meet up
with a big storm out of the Gulf of Alaska, and dump up to twenty feet
of snow on us (I've personally seen a fourteen foot snowfall).
Fairbanks this year is colder than it's been in recent years (although
temps of -50 used to be pretty common there), and we've been wetter
than usual, so I've been keeping an eye peeled for big snow. A six
footer went south of us and hit the Sierra instead last week.
So Dana suddenly likes unions now, hmmm?
zepp
wrote:
>Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote:
Floyd's right. Alaska's record high temp is 100 (oddly, the same as
Hawaii), and you can bet the mortgage that it happened in the
interior, and nowhere near the coast. Ninties are common in the
summer throughout the Alaska/Yukon/NWT interior areas, just as they
are in Siberia, which in the winter is even colder than Alaska. Only
when you get further east, to places like Baffin Island, Greenland and
the like, do you get the stereotypal north, where the snow is year
round and it never gets above 60.
The Alaskan summers do tend to produce some fine looking mosquitoes.
Four of 'em can carry off a house cat.
-
Al Klein
posted to alt.atheism:
>Well ain't this just quaint. I don't know where you got your figures
>from, or if you just can't read!
Current readings at the time I was typing the post.
At the current moment, 2:30 PM eastern, the temperature in, say, Nome,
at Nome Airport, is 12 degrees, the winds are from the ene at 24 mph,
gusting to 36, the humidity is 92%, the dew point is 10 degrees, the
barometer is 29.83 and steady, the low since midnight local time was
10 degrees and the high was 13 degrees.
>Where ever it was that you got that +9F from, is simply *wrong*.
Tell the meteorologists at Post Rogers Memorial Airport, which is
where I got the numbers. Oh, btw, at 2:35 PM eastern, the numbers at
Barrow are -13, wind from the east at 13 gusting to 17, etc.
>As to Nome... the high temperature there in the past 24 hours is
>the current +12F, so I have no idea where your 30F figure came
>from.
Nome Airport.
--
"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the
type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his
physical death is also beyond my comprehension,...; such notions are for the fears or
absurd egoism of feeble souls."
- Albert Einstein
Mark K. Bilbo
> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 15:58:54 -0600, Erica
> <scribe53...@yahoo.com> posted to alt.atheism:
>
>>In article <d53puvsedrkhqdvqa...@Pern.rk>,
>> Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:40:08 -0600, Erica
>>> <scribe53...@yahoo.com> posted to alt.atheism:
>
>>> No, it just kills time. Don't take usenet so seriously.
>
>>Yeah, I keep forgetting, even though I say it myself. It's Usenet. I
>>just hate to see folks going at it. I try not to say things to folks
>>that I wouldn't have the guts to say in person.
>
> Anything I say to Dana on usenet I'd say to his face. If he cries, he
> cries.
Cry hell. Piss his drawers and run...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
Mark K. Bilbo
> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:38:08 -0600, Gray Shockley
> <gray...@cybercoffee.org> posted to alt.atheism:
>
>>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 13:43:25 -0600, Al Klein wrote
>>(in message <d53puvsedrkhqdvqa...@Pern.rk>):
>
>>> No, since there's nothing I want to project, or not project. I'm not
>>> a projector. Atheism isn't a philosophy, it's not a club, it's
>>> nothing more than is lack of belief in Santa Claus.
>
>>That's what you get for not coming to the conventions and participating in
>>the orgies.
>
> I never got the memos about the conventions. As far as the orgies, I
> was the guy using the horsehair flogger.
That was YOU?
Floyd Davidson
>On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 05:03:00 -0900, Floyd Davidson <fl...@barrow.com>
>posted to alt.atheism:
>
>>Well ain't this just quaint. I don't know where you got your figures
>>from, or if you just can't read!
>
>Current readings at the time I was typing the post.
Not according to NOAA and and the Date: header on your article.
>At the current moment, 2:30 PM eastern, the temperature in, say, Nome,
>at Nome Airport, is 12 degrees, the winds are from the ene at 24 mph,
>gusting to 36, the humidity is 92%, the dew point is 10 degrees, the
>barometer is 29.83 and steady, the low since midnight local time was
>10 degrees and the high was 13 degrees.
>
>>Where ever it was that you got that +9F from, is simply *wrong*.
>
>Tell the meteorologists at Post Rogers Memorial Airport, which is
There are no meterologists at the Post Rogers Memorial Airport.
(Keep in mind that I a 3 minute walk from the NWS office in
Barrow.)
>where I got the numbers. Oh, btw, at 2:35 PM eastern, the numbers at
>Barrow are -13, wind from the east at 13 gusting to 17, etc.
>
>>As to Nome... the high temperature there in the past 24 hours is
>>the current +12F, so I have no idea where your 30F figure came
>>from.
>
>Nome Airport.
You don't get weather reports from the airport. You get them from
NOAA or the NWS.
As I noted, the figures you gave weren't correct. I have no idea
where you got them, but they weren't accurate according to NOAA.
Floyd Davidson
>On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 05:18:11 -0900, Floyd Davidson <fl...@barrow.com>
>wrote:
>>in September? That in itself is a bit hilarious, since they
>>only get *here* in early October (from Canadian waters headed
>>for the Bering Sea). Maybe the ones the travel up along the
>>Siberian coast go through earlier, but I doubt it.
>
>He did claim to see one off the coast of BC on the way back, so he
>might have been telling the truth about that. But the crap about the
>"midnight sun" sorta lowered his credibility a bit.
He might have seen a whale, but he sure didn't see any bowhead
whale off the coast of BC!
>I'm in Northern California these days, which has a much more
>salubrious climate (18 above, no snow on the ground right now, sunrise
>7:35, sunset 4:50), but I keep a wary eye on the weather in Fairbanks
Fairbanks is watched by every meteorologist in the country. The
weather there is indeed an indication of what is happening with the
north-south jet stream (which kinda acts like a hose squirting
warm air into Alaska; which can be "normal" and be far enough south
to keep Kodiak warm, or it can get farther north and make Fairbanks
warm in January... which will push cold air from Siberia over into
Canada and Canadian air down into the mid-west, which makes for
a real nasty winter storm for somebody out there!).
>and in the Gulf, because what's going on there can affect us here a
>few days later. Alberta clippers out of interior Alaska meant for the
>Dakotas sometimes miss and hit us instead, driving temps to ten below
>and even twenty below. That's mild by your standards, but folks here
>aren't used to it; the time it hit -21 (wind chill of -45) a third of
>the town lost its plumbing because folks didn't know to crack their
>taps. More frequently, cold will spill out of the interior, meet up
>with a big storm out of the Gulf of Alaska, and dump up to twenty feet
>of snow on us (I've personally seen a fourteen foot snowfall).
>Fairbanks this year is colder than it's been in recent years (although
>temps of -50 used to be pretty common there), and we've been wetter
>than usual, so I've been keeping an eye peeled for big snow. A six
>footer went south of us and hit the Sierra instead last week.
>
>So Dana suddenly likes unions now, hmmm?
Ain't it good for a giggle! Poor guy ranted for years about how
bad they were, and now he's got a good union job (and it isn't
hard to see just exactly what's so good about unions!) working
in the telecom industry.
zepp
wrote:
Exactly so. I think we're in for a bit of a rough ride down here for
the next few weeks, starting, oh, tonight.
>
>>and in the Gulf, because what's going on there can affect us here a
>>few days later. Alberta clippers out of interior Alaska meant for the
>>Dakotas sometimes miss and hit us instead, driving temps to ten below
>>and even twenty below. That's mild by your standards, but folks here
>>aren't used to it; the time it hit -21 (wind chill of -45) a third of
>>the town lost its plumbing because folks didn't know to crack their
>>taps. More frequently, cold will spill out of the interior, meet up
>>with a big storm out of the Gulf of Alaska, and dump up to twenty feet
>>of snow on us (I've personally seen a fourteen foot snowfall).
>>Fairbanks this year is colder than it's been in recent years (although
>>temps of -50 used to be pretty common there), and we've been wetter
>>than usual, so I've been keeping an eye peeled for big snow. A six
>>footer went south of us and hit the Sierra instead last week.
>>
>>So Dana suddenly likes unions now, hmmm?
>
>Ain't it good for a giggle! Poor guy ranted for years about how
>bad they were, and now he's got a good union job (and it isn't
>hard to see just exactly what's so good about unions!) working
>in the telecom industry.
Dana in a union. Wow. All over Usenet, right wingers are sobbing and
doing a Fat Freddy imitation: "Me golden idol is tarnished!"
Al Klein
posted to alt.atheism:
>And so upon Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:12:23 -0500 didst Al Klein speak thusly:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:38:08 -0600, Gray Shockley
>> <gray...@cybercoffee.org> posted to alt.atheism:
>>
>>>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 13:43:25 -0600, Al Klein wrote
>>>(in message <d53puvsedrkhqdvqa...@Pern.rk>):
>>
>>>> No, since there's nothing I want to project, or not project. I'm not
>>>> a projector. Atheism isn't a philosophy, it's not a club, it's
>>>> nothing more than is lack of belief in Santa Claus.
>>
>>>That's what you get for not coming to the conventions and participating in
>>>the orgies.
>>
>> I never got the memos about the conventions. As far as the orgies, I
>> was the guy using the horsehair flogger.
>
>That was YOU?
Who'd you think it was? The horse?
--
"Every sensible man, every honest man, must hold the christian sect in horror. 'But what
shall we substitute in its place?' you say. What? A ferocious animal has sucked the
blood of my relatives. I tell you to rid yourselves of this beast and you ask me what
you shall put in its place?" - Voltaire
Al Klein
posted to alt.atheism:
>You don't get weather reports from the airport. You get them from
>NOAA or the NWS.
For Barrow, I have my choice of readings at the airport, Wainwright,
Kaparuk Airport, Deadhorse Airport, Anaktuvuk Pass, Cape Lisburne and
a few other locations. Oh, and they're live readings - updating as I
watch. 1:30 AM (Sunday) eastern readings at Post Rogers are:
-9 degrees
wind from the east @ 17mph
77% humidity
Barometer 30.30 steady
etc.
--
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he
unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
-- Bertrand Russell.
Gray Shockley
(in message <0gtsuvgikj1tjjmt4...@Pern.rk>):
> On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 18:48:40 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <no...@il.huh>
> posted to alt.atheism:
>
>> And so upon Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:12:23 -0500 didst Al Klein speak thusly:
>>
>>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:38:08 -0600, Gray Shockley
>>> <gray...@cybercoffee.org> posted to alt.atheism:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 13:43:25 -0600, Al Klein wrote
>>>> (in message <d53puvsedrkhqdvqa...@Pern.rk>):
>>>
>>>>> No, since there's nothing I want to project, or not project. I'm not
>>>>> a projector. Atheism isn't a philosophy, it's not a club, it's
>>>>> nothing more than is lack of belief in Santa Claus.
>>>
>>>> That's what you get for not coming to the conventions and participating
>>>> in the orgies.
>>>
>>> I never got the memos about the conventions. As far as the orgies, I
>>> was the guy using the horsehair flogger.
>>
>> That was YOU?
>
> Who'd you think it was? The horse?
>
You are aware - are you not? - that the animal from which the ecstacy toy was
made was suffering from Angry Horse Melancholia?
Gray Shockley
--------------------------------------------------------
When trouble arises and things look bad, there is always one
individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take
command. Very often, that individual is crazy. -Author Unk
Floyd Davidson
>On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 16:43:03 -0900, Floyd Davidson <fl...@barrow.com>
>posted to alt.atheism:
>
>>You don't get weather reports from the airport. You get them from
>>NOAA or the NWS.
>
>For Barrow, I have my choice of readings at the airport,
For Barrow, you have a choice of readings at the NWS office. It is,
strictly speaking, *not* at the airport. (It is physically located
a block way from the airport, on separate property, and there are
private homes between it and the airport.)
Claiming the others provide Barrow weather readings is absurd.
You clearly have *no* idea what you are talking about!
>Wainwright,
>Kaparuk Airport, Deadhorse Airport, Anaktuvuk Pass, Cape Lisburne and
>a few other locations.
Well... whatever you say Hoss. Wainwright is /90/ /miles/ southwest of
Barrow, Kaparuk and Deadhorse are a couple hundred miles east, while
Anaktuvuk a couple hundred miles south, and Cape Lisburne is 300 miles
west.
A few other locations? You missed only Point Lay (200 miles west),
Umiat (124 miles south), and Nuiqsut (150 or so east).
You've named weather stations over a 500 mile range and said they
were for Barrow!
> Oh, and they're live readings - updating as I
>watch.
Live readings? Do you know what an AWOS is? Automatic Weather
Observation System. All of those come from an AWOS except Barrow
and Cape Lisburne, where there are individual instruments in
the old fashioned way (all of which are still automatically
monitored in the same way as an AWOS is).
> 1:30 AM (Sunday) eastern readings at Post Rogers are:
>-9 degrees
>wind from the east @ 17mph
>77% humidity
>Barometer 30.30 steady
I posted the URL to look directly at the NOAA report. Big deal.
Well, it wouldn't be a big deal except that at the time someone
reported 9 degrees (not -9), it had been *days* since it was that
warm here.
If you want to impress *me* with your knowledge of weather in
Barrow, you'll have to do more than quote something you don't
understand from a weather URL on Internet. I've been inside
almost every one of those AWOS huts that are mentioned above...
Mark K. Bilbo
> On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 18:48:40 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <no...@il.huh>
> posted to alt.atheism:
>
>>And so upon Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:12:23 -0500 didst Al Klein speak thusly:
>>
>>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:38:08 -0600, Gray Shockley
>>> <gray...@cybercoffee.org> posted to alt.atheism:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 13:43:25 -0600, Al Klein wrote
>>>>(in message <d53puvsedrkhqdvqa...@Pern.rk>):
>>>
>>>>> No, since there's nothing I want to project, or not project. I'm not
>>>>> a projector. Atheism isn't a philosophy, it's not a club, it's
>>>>> nothing more than is lack of belief in Santa Claus.
>>>
>>>>That's what you get for not coming to the conventions and participating in
>>>>the orgies.
>>>
>>> I never got the memos about the conventions. As far as the orgies, I
>>> was the guy using the horsehair flogger.
>>
>>That was YOU?
>
> Who'd you think it was? The horse?
Well, it *was that kinda party...
JessHC
> "Liz" <ehu...@donotspam.com> wrote in message
> news:vghkuv0cec3r8gka9...@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:08:43 -0900, "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> in news
> > message <vukdjrs...@corp.supernews.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Today was an excellent day for expressing our first amendment rights. We
> had
> > >some atheists protesting the nativity and a Christmas decorations being
> > >displayed on public property.
> > >So being that it was -20 out, we smashed a couple of dozen eggs on the
> heads
> > >that gook freezes in this temperture. Any way in the shuffle some
> atheists
> > >slipped and a few of them suffered some broken bones and noses from
> slipping
> > >into our fists.
> > >I am so glad I am not a Christian, I would hate not being able to hit
> these
> > >atheists who make fun of, and like to restrict the rights of the
> Christians.
> > >So to all you newdow pricks out there who are offended by a couple of
> words
> > >in the pledge because you are so intolerant, stand by to get the kicking
> you
> > >all deserve.
> >
> >
> > And that, folks, is the real meaning of the SeasonŽ for those who want
> > no separation of church and state. Happy Holidays, and LintŽ bless us
> > every one!
>
> Slap an atheist leftist for the hell of it, you have the right to express
> your thoughts, just like they do.
Heck, just kill 'em. They're worthless in the eyes of god.