Summary of Recent Republicon Scandals
Rich Travsky
I was struck by the number of republicon scandal reports appearing in the
newsgroups, so I started keeping track going back to October 30.
I logged 17, or roughly two a week from the end of October. I'm sure
there's been more that haven't been posted. (I have mention of one from
Philadelphia, a voter fraud scandal where the local GOP was registering
voters as republicon without their permission or knowing it, but it
didn't come with a URL for checking.)
This, coming from the party that wants to call the democrats corrupt
and themselves as being more moral.
1.
From St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 10/30/99:
http://www.stlnet.com/postnet/news/wires.nsf/StateRegion/3E93449DA7C87E028625681A007F
3C85?OpenDocument
This is then ongoing driver's license scandal investigation from when
republicon Governor Ryan of Illinois was Secretary of State. There
have been 14 guilty pleas so far and 13 more have been indicted:
- From The Chicago Tribune, 12/4/99:
http://www.chicago.tribune.com/news/metro/chicago/article/0,2669,ART-38957,FF.html
License probe turns to leases for buildings
Elgin raid raises issues of kickbacks, preferential pacts
- From The Chicago Tribune,
12/15/99:http://chicagotribune.com/news/metro/chicago/article/0,2669,ART-39398,FF.html
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2.
From The Associated Press, 10/27/99:
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/10/27/miami.ap/
Florida State Senator Pleads Guilty
By TRACY FIELDS Associated Press Writer
MIAMI -- A state senator pleaded guilty to conspiracy in a Medicare
fraud case and must resign from the Legislature, where he has served
for 15 years.
State Sen. Alberto Gutman and his wife, Marci, were charged last year
as the secret owners of companies that billed Medicare for health
care services that were not performed, sometimes for clients who did
not exist.
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3.
From The Dallas Morning News, 10/27/99:
http://www.dallasnews.com/texas_southwest/1027tsw999judge.htm
By Pete Slover / The Dallas Morning News
AUSTIN - A judge on the state's highest criminal court - arrested
after a ticket-scalping incident last year - pleaded no contest to
trespassing Tuesday and received six months' probation.
[...]
Judge Mansfield, 47, a Republican, was placed on deferred adjudication
probation, meaning that he will have no criminal record if he
completes his probation, pays a $300 fine and performs 30 hours of community
service, the nature of which was not determined Tuesday.
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4.
From The Associated Press, 11/4/99:
http://flash.syracuse.com/cgi-bin/syr_nview.pl?/home1/wire/AP/Stream-Parsed/CUSE_NEWS
/n0326_PM_NY--Pataki-Trip
Donations to sponsor of Pataki's Hungary trips are investigated
ALBANY, N.Y. -- The state Ethics Commission is investigating whether
two trips to Hungary by Gov. George Pataki were illegally funded by
companies with business interests before the state, the New York Times
reported today.
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5.
NY Times 11/15/99
http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/111599mich-roche-edu.html
This is sordid case of George Roche III, of conservative Hillsdale
College. A lengthy affair with his son's wife and her later suicide.
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6.
From The San Antonio Express-News, 11/10/99:
http://www.express-news.net/auth/ennews/ap/texas/d0623.html
This is the ongoing story of Texas State Sen. J.E. "Buster" Brown,
Brazoria County, who sexually harassed a female office clerk.
- http://www.express-news.net/auth/ennews/ap/texas/d0828.html
Texas State senator under attack for groping woman employee
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7.
From The New York Times, 11/17/99:
http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/regional/ny-gop-trial.html
Prosecutors Say Tapes Prove Former G.O.P. Leader's Guilt
By JOHN T. McQUISTON
UNIONDALE, N.Y. -- Secretly recorded conversations that federal
investigators say provide clear evidence of a landfill extortion
scheme were played in Federal District Court here Tuesday in the trial
of John Powell, the former Suffolk County Republican leader.
The members of the jury, each wearing a set of headphones, listened
intently as they heard Powell described as the "main man," the "head
honcho" and the "boss" of the town of Brookhaven, where he is charged
with taking $20,000 in bribes for access to the town landfill.
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8.
From The San Antonio Express-News, 11/19/99:
http://www.express-news.net/auth/ennews/ap/texas/d0882.html
Texas senator said soliciting illegal contributions for Bush
MESA, Ariz. - A Texas state senator reportedly is asking Arizona
lawmakers for a portion of their own campaign funds for Republican
presidential contender George W. Bush, a practice said to be illegal.
Texas Sen. Teel Bivins, whose district includes Amarillo, used
official Texas Senate stationery to tell Arizona legislators that a
contribution of up to $1,000 from their own campaign account is legal,
The Tribune, a newspaper covering suburban Phoenix, said today.
The Tribune also said Arizona statutes prohibit the transfer from any
state campaign account to another candidate's federal or state
campaign.
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9.
From The Poughkeepsie Journal, 12/2/99:
http://www.pojonews.com/news/crime/stories/cr120299s2.htm
Indictment tops 16 counts
By Michael Valkys
Poughkeepsie Journal
WHITE PLAINS -- Federal prosecutors Wednesday announced eight
additional corruption charges have been lodged against former Dutchess
County Republican Chairman William Paroli Sr.
Paroli -- who faces a March trial -- was previously indicted in
September on eight counts of corruption for allegedly masterminding a
six-year scheme to shake down contractors on Town of Poughkeepsie
projects with more than $100,000 going to Paroli and the GOP.
The eight new charges -- bringing the total to 16 -- were handed down
Wednesday by a federal grand jury.
Paroli is now charged with one count of conspiracy to commit
extortion, seven counts of extortion, one count of bribery, one count
of embezzlement, two counts of mail fraud and four counts of witness
tampering.
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10.
From The New York Times, 12/3/99:
http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/regional/ny-powell.html
G.O.P. Figure in Suffolk Is Convicted
By JOHN T. McQUISTON
UNIONDALE, N.Y. -- John Powell, a former leader of the Suffolk County
Republican Party who was once seen as a rising star in the state
party, was found guilty of conspiracy and extortion in a landfill
scandal on Thursday evening by a federal jury.
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11.
http://www.phillynews.com/inquirer/99/Dec/06/city/CRIM06.htm
HARRISBURG - The Republican House majority is expected to make history
today by allowing a lawmaker convicted of perjury to take his seat and
vote despite a provision in the Pennsylvania Constitution that makes
him ineligible to serve.
GOP legislators plan to block or vote down a Democrat-led effort to expel
Rep. Frank Serafini, who was sentenced Nov. 18 to five months in federal
prison for lying to a federal grand jury that was investigating an
illegal campaign finance scheme.
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12.
From The New York Times, 12/9/99:
http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/regional/ny-republican.html
Convicted Republican Seeks Deal in 2nd Case
By JOHN T. McQUISTON
UNIONDALE, N.Y. -- Five days after being convicted of
conspiracy and extortion, John Powell, a former Suffolk County
Republican leader, was back in court Wednesday, trying to avoid a
second trial on charges of helping to run a truck theft ring.
Powell, who was convicted Dec. 2 in Federal District Court here of
extorting $20,000 in bribes from a trucker in exchange for preferred
access to the Town of Brookhaven landfill, said through his lawyer
Wednesday that he hoped to negotiate a plea agreement with federal
prosecutors in the truck theft case.
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13.
From The Hartford Courant, 12/16/99:
http://www.ctnow.com/scripts/editorial.dll?bfromind=1396&eeid=1243606&eetype=article&
render=y&ck=&ver=hb1.2.20
By MATTHEW DALY
The Hartford Courant
To state Republicans, it's a no- brainer.
Connecticut should have a board of trustees to oversee management of
its $20 billion pension fund, the GOP leaders say - and one of their
own is Exhibit A for why.
Former state Treasurer Paul J. Silvester, a Republican, set off a
state scandal after pleading guilty to money-laundering and
racketeering charges involving investments he made during his final
months in office.
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14.
From The Providence (R.I.) Journal 12/17/99:
http://www.projo.com/cgi-bin/frame_it.cgi?URL=/report/pjb/stories/02923091.htm
EDC chief resigns
By CHRISTOPHER ROWLAND
Journal State House Bureau
PROVIDENCE -- John Swen resigned from his job as executive director of
the state Economic Development Corporation yesterday, brought down by
questionable spending practices after two years as Governor Almond's
chief business booster.
From
http://www.projo.com/report/pjb/stories/02917041.htm
[...]
Swen is an appointee of Almond, a Republican.
[...]
Another Republican senator, John A. Patterson, of North Kingstown,
agreed. The Almond administration ``has been scandal-free until now,''
he said. ``It's sad that this is no longer the case.''
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15.
From The New York Times, 12/18/99:
http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/regional/ny-campaign-gop.html
Fund-Raiser for Republicans Denies Wrongdoing
By WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM
A businessman who has raised tens of thousands of dollars for the
campaigns of Gov. George E. Pataki and other Republicans pleaded not
guilty yesterday to federal charges that he promised favorable state
parole rulings to the families of three convicted violent felons in
exchange for $36,000 in campaign donations.
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16.
From The New York Times, 12/15/99:
http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/regional/121599ny-col-purdy.html
Tough Times For Big Man In Dutchess
POUGHKEEPSIE , N.Y. -- Only the uninitiated would think there was
anything odd about the goings-on Tuesday in the county courthouse
here.
William Paroli Sr., the Republican elections commissioner, was on the
witness stand testifying for the county clerk who is contesting the
results of the still-unresolved November election.
[...]
A federal corruption investigation has cut a jagged swath through the
Town of Poughkeepsie in the last two and a half years, leaving behind
charges, convictions, political unrest, a suicide and enough rumors
and conspiracy theories to keep this county riveted.
The elder Paroli has been the impresario of the local Republican
Party, and federal prosecutors have accused him of masterminding a
medley of corrupt acts.
Prosecutors said he conspired with local officials to shake down
contractors.
They allege that on one project alone, $137,800 was extorted and
funneled to the Republican Party, with various conduits used to get
money to Paroli.
An F.B.I. document filed in the case says that while running for
county party chairman in 1997, Paroli acknowledged to supporters that
he used "his 'leadership' to 'smooth the way' and 'cut through the red
tape' for business and contractors who were willing to make
contributions to the party."
There were also smaller favors for Paroli, either from the public
coffers or contractors, prosecutors allege: tires for his car,
construction material and electrical work for his house and
landscaping for his yard.
There have been four convictions, including the guilty plea of the
town's water superintendent who was charged with conspiring with
Paroli to extort money.
The town's assessor, whose body was found in the Hudson River in
October 1997 after he committed suicide, has since been linked by
prosecutors to what they say was a conspiracy.
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17.
From The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 12/15/99:
http://www.ardemgaz.com/today/ark/baydepose15.html
Huckabee denies misuse of mansion funds after deposition
RACHEL O'NEAL
ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE
Gov. Mike Huckabee was questioned for 31/2 hours Tuesday as he gave a
deposition in a lawsuit against him over his alleged misuse of the
taxpayer-financed, $60,000 Governor's Mansion Allowance.
Alex Magdaleno
> I was struck by the number of republicon scandal reports appearing in the
> newsgroups, so I started keeping track going back to October 30.
Great research Rich, and I think you inadvertently created a new word,
"Republicons". This should be in Webster's---
RE-PUB-LI-CON v Any trick by the Republican party to pull the wool over
the eyes of the gullible. Often used to divert attention from the parties
insidious attempts to screw the public for the good of their rich backers.
More definitions are welcomed. Add to the list
Rich Travsky
>
> > I was struck by the number of republicon scandal reports appearing in the
> > newsgroups, so I started keeping track going back to October 30.
>
> "Republicons". This should be in Webster's---
>
> RE-PUB-LI-CON v Any trick by the Republican party to pull the wool over
> the eyes of the gullible. Often used to divert attention from the parties
> insidious attempts to screw the public for the good of their rich backers.
>
> More definitions are welcomed. Add to the list
Also "con", as in a CONvict.
RT
Coach
news:I6884.557$ra....@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net...
> Great research Rich, and I think you inadvertently created a new word,
> "Republicons". This should be in Webster's---
> RE-PUB-LI-CON v Any trick by the Republican party to pull the wool over
> the eyes of the gullible. Often used to divert attention from the parties
> insidious attempts to screw the public for the good of their rich backers.
> More definitions are welcomed. Add to the list
Hmmmm, how about this....
RE-PUB-LI-CON n/adj 1) Anyone that has the courage to say that the
president might have done wrong by lying to the people he is suppose to be
serving. 2) Anyone who openly states that the media might have a liberal
bias. 3) Anyone that can pick up on the fact that Gore isn't the sharpest
knife in the drawer.
HTH
Coach
Ben There
Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
news:3860FCDE...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu...
> Presented as a public service.
>
> I was struck by the number of republicon scandal reports appearing in the
> newsgroups, so I started keeping track going back to October 30.
How many Democrap scandals occurred in the same
period? You did track those as well, right?
Rich Travsky
Closer:
republicon - anyone who has the gall to claim another party is corrupt while
their own is filled with adulterers, liars, thieves, racketeers, etc
David Salvador Flores
>"Alex Magdaleno" <en...@gte.net> wrote in message
>news:I6884.557$ra....@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net...
>
>> Great research Rich, and I think you inadvertently created a new word,
>> "Republicons". This should be in Webster's---
>
>> RE-PUB-LI-CON v Any trick by the Republican party to pull the wool over
>> the eyes of the gullible. Often used to divert attention from the parties
>> insidious attempts to screw the public for the good of their rich backers.
>
>> More definitions are welcomed. Add to the list
>
>Hmmmm, how about this....
>
>RE-PUB-LI-CON n/adj 1) Anyone that has the courage to say that the
>president might have done wrong by lying to the people he is suppose to be
>serving. 2) Anyone who openly states that the media might have a liberal
>bias. 3) Anyone that can pick up on the fact that Gore isn't the sharpest
>knife in the drawer.
You left off:
4) Anyone who has the chutzpah to deride the president for carrying on an
adulterous affair while boinking his own secretary with gusto and hiding
the fact from his second wife.
>
>HTH
>
>Coach
>
>
-Dave
Papa Bear
Great work!! I am tired of hearing about Democratic misdeeds from this
nest of vipers.
For example, Dan Burton last week was badgering John Huang over tens of
thousands of dollars he gave to the Democrats (and we gave it right
back).
Meanwhile, Burton's committee had evidence Gingrich took $500,000 from
the Chinese government (sworn testimony from A Califronia Republican
official) but Burton buried it,
Burton was taped by Pakistani officials extorting campaing
contributions with threats,
and Sun Myung Moon has pumped millions into Republican coffers.
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Ken Kinser
Rich Travsky wrote:
> Coach wrote:
> >
> > "Alex Magdaleno" <en...@gte.net> wrote in message
> > news:I6884.557$ra....@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net...
> >
> > > Great research Rich, and I think you inadvertently created a new word,
> > > "Republicons". This should be in Webster's---
> >
> > > RE-PUB-LI-CON v Any trick by the Republican party to pull the wool over
> > > the eyes of the gullible. Often used to divert attention from the parties
> > > insidious attempts to screw the public for the good of their rich backers.
> >
> > > More definitions are welcomed. Add to the list
> >
> > Hmmmm, how about this....
> >
> > RE-PUB-LI-CON n/adj 1) Anyone that has the courage to say that the
> > president might have done wrong by lying to the people he is suppose to be
> > serving. 2) Anyone who openly states that the media might have a liberal
> > bias. 3) Anyone that can pick up on the fact that Gore isn't the sharpest
> > knife in the drawer.
>
> Closer:
>
> republicon - anyone who has the gall to claim another party is corrupt while
> their own is filled with adulterers, liars, thieves, racketeers, etc
Careful there. That definition captures democrats too :)
Ken
Ben There
Ken Kinser <ken.k...@NOmedSPAMtronic.com> wrote in message
news:38614DE4...@NOmedSPAMtronic.com...
Demo-craps.
Rich Travsky
>
> Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> news:3860FCDE...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu...
> >
> > I was struck by the number of republicon scandal reports appearing in the
> > newsgroups, so I started keeping track going back to October 30.
>
> period? You did track those as well, right?
Democrats haven't been claiming they were pure and all the other
high sounding crap the republicons have been spouting.
RT
Ben There
Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> Ben There wrote:
> >
> > Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> > news:3860FCDE...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu...
> > >
> > > I was struck by the number of republicon scandal reports appearing in the
> > > newsgroups, so I started keeping track going back to October 30.
> >
> > period? You did track those as well, right?
>
> Democrats haven't been claiming they were pure and all the other
> high sounding crap the republicons have been spouting.
>
Baloney. Your sadsack generalization is undermined by the fact you are sitting
there "tracking" GOP scandals. It makes you a hypocrite if you don't watchdog
your own too.
(I'm still chuckling that you didn't have the cajones to acknowledge my wishing
you a Merry Christmas...couldn't handle a little kindness, could ya?)
Rich Travsky
> Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> news:386169A8...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu...
> > Ben There wrote:
> > >
> > > Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> > > news:3860FCDE...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu...
> > > >
> > > > I was struck by the number of republicon scandal reports appearing in the
> > > > newsgroups, so I started keeping track going back to October 30.
> > >
> > > period? You did track those as well, right?
> >
> > Democrats haven't been claiming they were pure and all the other
> > high sounding crap the republicons have been spouting.
> >
>
> Baloney. Your sadsack generalization is undermined by the fact you are sitting
> there "tracking" GOP scandals. It makes you a hypocrite if you don't watchdog
> your own too.
HAHAHAAA! be my guest. Track the dems.
For ONCE we'd get to see you back up your mouth!
HAHAHAAA! Go for it!
> (I'm still chuckling that you didn't have the cajones to acknowledge my wishing
> you a Merry Christmas...couldn't handle a little kindness, could ya?)
We know the brand of kindness that comes from your type.
Shallow, hypocritical, and meaningless.
Time to back up your mouth, Benniekins.
RT
Alex Magdaleno
> Careful there. That definition captures democrats too :)
> Ken
I'm sure it does, in about equal numbers. The difference is Democrats do not
pretend that they are holier than thou.
Alex
Alex Magdaleno
> RE-PUB-LI-CON n/adj 1) Anyone that has the courage to say that the
> president might have done wrong by lying to the people he is suppose to be
> serving. 2) Anyone who openly states that the media might have a liberal
> bias. 3) Anyone that can pick up on the fact that Gore isn't the
sharpest
> knife in the drawer.
1.He would not have had to lie if stupid questions that were nobody's
business were not asked of him.
2. They may have a liberal bias but all of their newspapers and television
stations are owned by big conservative businesses. They are also better
educated than the average American, especially conservatives.
3. Gore is about twice as sharp as Shrub. No contest at all. Anyone with any
brains knows that Gore has a good reputation as a sharp witted debater. He
annihilated Qualye last go around.
Alex
Mary E Knadler
writes:
>
>Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
>news:3860FCDE...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu...
>>
>> I was struck by the number of republicon scandal reports appearing
in the
>> newsgroups, so I started keeping track going back to October 30.
>
>period? You did track those as well, right?
>
>
Of course not. They all say nothing happened...they were all
innocent, sure they were Just like poor little ole Suzy McDougal,
pure as the driven snow and oh, so innocent!
Poor little Suzy & all the others poor innocents too numerous to
mention.
Mary E Knadler
>
No they are worse. They even pretend they are "not guilty"!
Ben There
Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> Ben There wrote:
> > Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> > > Ben There wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> > > > news:3860FCDE...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu...
> > > > >
> > > > > I was struck by the number of republicon scandal reports appearing in the
> > > > > newsgroups, so I started keeping track going back to October 30.
> > > >
> > > > period? You did track those as well, right?
> > >
> > > high sounding crap the republicons have been spouting.
> > >
> >
> > Baloney. Your sadsack generalization is undermined by the fact you are sitting
> > there "tracking" GOP scandals. It makes you a hypocrite if you don't watchdog
> > your own too.
>
> HAHAHAAA! be my guest. Track the dems.
*You're* the Scandal Tracker Richie. Make sure you track both sides.
Rich Travsky
>
> In <83rfu2$s...@chronicle.concentric.net> "Ben There" <done...@haw.com>
> writes:
> >
> >
> >news:3860FCDE...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu...
> >>
> >> I was struck by the number of republicon scandal reports appearing
> in the
> >> newsgroups, so I started keeping track going back to October 30.
> >
> >period? You did track those as well, right?
> >
> innocent, sure they were Just like poor little ole Suzy McDougal,
> pure as the driven snow and oh, so innocent!
>
> Poor little Suzy & all the others poor innocents too numerous to
> mention.
Uh Marikins - What I posted was only for the period from October
30th!!!!!
If McDougal is the best you can come up with... (how many months
ago was that???)
RT
Ben There
you a Merry Christmas...couldn't handle a little kindness, could ya?
and sense of human warmth. Grinch Travesty...can't turn off the bile even
for a minute. Tsk Tsk.
Rich Travsky
>
> Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> > Ben There wrote:
> > > Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> > > > Ben There wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3860FCDE...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was struck by the number of republicon scandal reports appearing in the
> > > > > > newsgroups, so I started keeping track going back to October 30.
> > > > >
> > > > > period? You did track those as well, right?
> > > >
> > > > high sounding crap the republicons have been spouting.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Baloney. Your sadsack generalization is undermined by the fact you are sitting
> > > there "tracking" GOP scandals. It makes you a hypocrite if you don't watchdog
> > > your own too.
> >
> > HAHAHAAA! be my guest. Track the dems.
>
> *You're* the Scandal Tracker Richie. Make sure you track both sides.
We knew you'd be too lazy to do anything.
Time to back up your mouth Benjy Wenjy.
Time to quit running.
RT
Rich Travsky
We'd rather see you back up your mouth, Bent Over...
RT
Ben There
Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> Ben There wrote:
> > > > Baloney. Your sadsack generalization is undermined by the fact you are sitting
> > > > there "tracking" GOP scandals. It makes you a hypocrite if you don't watchdog
> > > > your own too.
> > >
> > > HAHAHAAA! be my guest. Track the dems.
> >
> > *You're* the Scandal Tracker Richie. Make sure you track both sides.
>
> We knew you'd be too lazy to do anything.
>
There 'lil Richie goes with the "we" stuff again.
His fantasy is that he represents someone other than himself.
Richie's ability to investigate and track is limited to the
GOP because he just couldn't face reading the Democrap
scandals. He's too fragile.
Ben There
Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
Poor Richie. Not an once of humanity in him.
I pity you.
Ben There
Mary E Knadler <yas...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:83ud7o$lhl$1...@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net...
> In <83tokr$p...@chronicle.concentric.net> "Ben There" <done...@haw.com>
> writes:
> >
> >I'm still chuckling that you didn't have the cajones to acknowledge my
> wishing
> >you a Merry Christmas...couldn't handle a little kindness, could ya?
> >Even Zepp, Gail Weasel and Tyrebiter responded like humans with a
> perspective
> >and sense of human warmth. Grinch Travesty...can't turn off the bile
> even
> >for a minute. Tsk Tsk.
> >
> >
> >
>
Well Mary, the Grinch had a heart in the end...do you suppose Rich does?
Rich Travsky
>
> Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
Thanks for proving my point little ben!
Still waiting for you back up your mouth.
If you're not too lazy, that is. (or perhaps it's because
you don't know how??? Hmmm?)
RT
Rich Travsky
>
> Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> > Ben There wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm still chuckling that you didn't have the cajones to acknowledge my wishing
> > > you a Merry Christmas...couldn't handle a little kindness, could ya?
> > > Even Zepp, Gail Weasel and Tyrebiter responded like humans with a perspective
> > > and sense of human warmth. Grinch Travesty...can't turn off the bile even
> > > for a minute. Tsk Tsk.
> >
> >
>
> Poor Richie. Not an once of humanity in him.
> I pity you.
How your parents must feel having raised such a lazy
child.
Still waiting for you to bacl up your mouth!
RT
Rich Travsky
>
> Mary E Knadler <yas...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:83ud7o$lhl$1...@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net...
> > In <83tokr$p...@chronicle.concentric.net> "Ben There" <done...@haw.com>
> > writes:
> > >
> > wishing
> > >you a Merry Christmas...couldn't handle a little kindness, could ya?
> > >Even Zepp, Gail Weasel and Tyrebiter responded like humans with a
> > perspective
> > >and sense of human warmth. Grinch Travesty...can't turn off the bile
> > even
> > >for a minute. Tsk Tsk.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> Well Mary, the Grinch had a heart in the end...do you suppose Rich does?
A heart AND a brain - putting me way ahead of the both
of you!
RT
so they supoena all these former associates
and then just go from there? - Bennie displaying brains
Mary E Knadler
<rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> writes:
>
>Mary E Knadler wrote:
>>
>> In <83rfu2$s...@chronicle.concentric.net> "Ben There"
<done...@haw.com>
>> writes:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Presented as a public service.
>> >>
>> >> I was struck by the number of republicon scandal reports
appearing
>> in the
>> >> newsgroups, so I started keeping track going back to October 30.
>> >
>> >How many Democrap scandals occurred in the same
>> >period? You did track those as well, right?
>> >
>> innocent, sure they were Just like poor little ole Suzy McDougal,
>> pure as the driven snow and oh, so innocent!
>>
>> Poor little Suzy & all the others poor innocents too numerous to
>> mention.
>
>Uh Marikins - What I posted was only for the period from October
>30th!!!!!
>
>If McDougal is the best you can come up with... (how many months
>ago was that???)
>
>RT
Gee, I don't know, but she just seemed so typical of the Dem
sleeze that you missed.
Mary E Knadler
Mary E Knadler
writes:
>
>Mary E Knadler <yas...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>news:83ud7o$lhl$1...@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net...
does?
It doesn't look too good right now......it's almost Christmas Eve
& he still hasn't had a change of heart.
I still wish him a Merry Christmas tho.....I wish everyone a
Merry Christmas.......& just forget politics for the holiday season.
>
Ben There
Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> Ben There wrote:
> >
> > Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> > > Ben There wrote:
> > > > > > Baloney. Your sadsack generalization is undermined by the fact you are
sitting
> > > > > > there "tracking" GOP scandals. It makes you a hypocrite if you don't
watchdog
> > > > > > your own too.
> > > > >
> > > > > HAHAHAAA! be my guest. Track the dems.
> > > >
> > > > *You're* the Scandal Tracker Richie. Make sure you track both sides.
> > >
> > > We knew you'd be too lazy to do anything.
> > >
> >
> > There 'lil Richie goes with the "we" stuff again.
> > His fantasy is that he represents someone other than himself.
> >
> > Richie's ability to investigate and track is limited to the
> > GOP because he just couldn't face reading the Democrap
> > scandals. He's too fragile.
>
> Thanks for proving my point little ben!
No problem, I had no idea that your point was that you
are a hypocritical crybaby without an ounce of humanity...but
I was glad to help you prove it.
Meeeerry Christmas you isolated sadsack.
Ben There
Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> Ben There wrote:
> >
> > Mary E Knadler <yas...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:83ud7o$lhl$1...@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net...
> > > In <83tokr$p...@chronicle.concentric.net> "Ben There" <done...@haw.com>
> > > writes:
> > > >
> > > >I'm still chuckling that you didn't have the cajones to acknowledge my
> > > wishing
> > > >you a Merry Christmas...couldn't handle a little kindness, could ya?
> > > >Even Zepp, Gail Weasel and Tyrebiter responded like humans with a
> > > perspective
> > > >and sense of human warmth. Grinch Travesty...can't turn off the bile
> > > even
> > > >for a minute. Tsk Tsk.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm afraid he is THE Grinch, alright!
> >
> > Well Mary, the Grinch had a heart in the end...do you suppose Rich does?
>
> of you!
Ha ha ha....try to make yourself feel better 'lil Bitchie...
It'll be difficult, but you *might* forget you are an inhuman
walking sack of puke...ha ha, even Zepp and Gail Weasel
showed real class in putting aside the bile and exchanging
sincere well-wishes for the holidays. Of course they aren't
bed-wetting freaks like you, they have actual personalities.
Have fun pissant!
Ben There
> >news:83ud7o$lhl$1...@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net...
> >> In <83tokr$p...@chronicle.concentric.net> "Ben There"
> <done...@haw.com>
> >> writes:
> >> >
> >> >I'm still chuckling that you didn't have the cajones to acknowledge
> my
> >> wishing
> >> >you a Merry Christmas...couldn't handle a little kindness, could
> ya?
> >> >Even Zepp, Gail Weasel and Tyrebiter responded like humans with a
> >> perspective
> >> >and sense of human warmth. Grinch Travesty...can't turn off the
> bile
> >> even
> >> >for a minute. Tsk Tsk.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> I'm afraid he is THE Grinch, alright!
> >
> >Well Mary, the Grinch had a heart in the end...do you suppose Rich
> does?
>
> & he still hasn't had a change of heart.
>
> I still wish him a Merry Christmas tho.....I wish everyone a
> Merry Christmas.......& just forget politics for the holiday season.
He absolutely can't put aside his childish hate.
I pity Rich.
Coach
> > RE-PUB-LI-CON n/adj 1) Anyone that has the courage to say that the
> > president might have done wrong by lying to the people he is suppose to
be
> > serving. 2) Anyone who openly states that the media might have a
liberal
> > bias. 3) Anyone that can pick up on the fact that Gore isn't the
> sharpest
> > knife in the drawer.
> 1.He would not have had to lie if stupid questions that were nobody's
> business were not asked of him.
Super-Starr had very little business asking those questions while
investigating something completely different (unless he was trying to
establish Clinton's habit of fibbing), but that doesn't give Bill the right
of way to lie to the nation.
> 2. They may have a liberal bias but all of their newspapers and television
> stations are owned by big conservative businesses. They are also better
> educated than the average American, especially conservatives.
The big conservative businesses?
> 3. Gore is about twice as sharp as Shrub. No contest at all. Anyone with
any
> brains knows that Gore has a good reputation as a sharp witted debater. He
> annihilated Qualye last go around.
Wow, he skunked Qualye in a debate......that's like bragging about taking a
lollipop from a four year old paraplegic.
Coach
Rich Travsky
>
> Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> > Ben There wrote:
> > >
> > > Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
> > > > Ben There wrote:
> > > > > > > Baloney. Your sadsack generalization is undermined by the fact you are
> sitting
> > > > > > > there "tracking" GOP scandals. It makes you a hypocrite if you don't
> watchdog
> > > > > > > your own too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HAHAHAAA! be my guest. Track the dems.
> > > > >
> > > > > *You're* the Scandal Tracker Richie. Make sure you track both sides.
> > > >
> > > > We knew you'd be too lazy to do anything.
> > > >
> > >
> > > There 'lil Richie goes with the "we" stuff again.
> > > His fantasy is that he represents someone other than himself.
> > >
> > > Richie's ability to investigate and track is limited to the
> > > GOP because he just couldn't face reading the Democrap
> > > scandals. He's too fragile.
> >
> > Thanks for proving my point little ben!
>
> No problem, I had no idea that your point was that you
> are a hypocritical crybaby without an ounce of humanity...but
> I was glad to help you prove it.
> Meeeerry Christmas you isolated sadsack.
Uh, Little Ben, you already proved my point once, you
don't have to further embarass yourself.
RT
Mary E Knadler
give him any credit. That is why I don't think there should be
debates, because the media always "claims" who won & that is
supposed to be the end of it.
What other people make think makes no difference. I was just
reading I believe in the NYT today that the winners of debates
thru hisotry have not necessarily won the voters.
So why bother with them.. It's the media that makes a big deal
of them. What most voters want is the guy who wins to do the
things they agree with once he's in office.
Alex Magdaleno
television
> > stations are owned by big conservative businesses. They are also better
> > educated than the average American, especially conservatives.
>
> The big conservative businesses?
I should have been more specific. I meant the reporters and newsmen.
>
>
> Wow, he skunked Qualye in a debate......that's like bragging about taking
a
> lollipop from a four year old paraplegic.
Good point Coach. You got me on that one, but Gore's reputation in D.C. is
based on other things.
Alex
Jerome Schroeder
> any
> > brains knows that Gore has a good reputation as a sharp witted debater.
He
> > annihilated Qualye last go around.
>
a
> lollipop from a four year old paraplegic.
>
>
He's gotcha there. Shrub is several magnitudes sharper than poor Dan
Quayle. Still, no one could mistakenly accuse him of being a national merit
scholarship winner. I've watch Bush in action several times, he's much
more charming than Gore, but what you see is all you get. And, its a pretty
shallow get.
Pore Gore on the other hand could use a dose of charisma. The fact that
he is bright, well-educated and dedicated may not count for much with half
the american people, but it could help him win or loose an election. To
many Americans think that they are voting for public cerenity of the years.
I'd really like to see Clinton quietly hand in his uniform.
Jerry
Cal
>
> Presented as a public service.
>
> I was struck by the number of republicon scandal reports appearing in the
> newsgroups, so I started keeping track going back to October 30.
>
> there's been more that haven't been posted. (I have mention of one from
> Philadelphia, a voter fraud scandal where the local GOP was registering
> voters as republicon without their permission or knowing it, but it
> didn't come with a URL for checking.)<snip>
If this is true then the GOP is smarter than I would have thought.
Looks like they are finally playing the games that the Demos have been
playing for 150 years. I bet some local yokel is just bragging. Cal
Jerome Schroeder
> >
> Actually Quayle won that debate. But of course the media wouldn't
> give him any credit. That is why I don't think there should be
> debates, because the media always "claims" who won & that is
> supposed to be the end of it.
'Cmon. I watched that debate. I admit that I'm a liberal democrat, but you
have to really be partisan to believe that Quayle even came close. The man
amply demonstrated that he was a doofus.
>
> What other people make think makes no difference. I was just
> reading I believe in the NYT today that the winners of debates
> thru hisotry have not necessarily won the voters.
Its spelt "history." There's not a direct correlation, but "winners" of
major debates tend to win election. Of course, sometimes its difficult to
decide who won. The TV talking heads rarely have a clue, and are mostly
reactionary anyway.
> So why bother with them.. It's the media that makes a big deal
> of them. What most voters want is the guy who wins to do the
> things they agree with once he's in office.
It gives people a chance to see how the candidate behaves under pressure and
there is always the possibility that what the candidate believes is true and
holy will come out for all to hear. I would love to hear people like Trent
Lott, Jesse Helms or George Bush admit publically their private views.
Jerry
X Metro Man
<jer...@keinspam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Actually Quayle won that debate. But of course the media wouldn't
>> give him any credit. That is why I don't think there should be
>> debates, because the media always "claims" who won & that is
>> supposed to be the end of it.
>
>'Cmon. I watched that debate. I admit that I'm a liberal democrat, but you
>have to really be partisan to believe that Quayle even came close. The man
>amply demonstrated that he was a doofus.
Yet your friend Gore can claim to invent the internet, can claim he
grew up on a Tennessee farm when the closest he got to a farm was
perhaps a piece of artwork in the Washington DC hotel where he grew
up, can express his computer savvy by pressing "Alt-Cntrl-Del" when
rebooting, calling is web page "open source" to jump on the Linux
bandwagon (for which he knows nothing about), can brag that he
practically swam in tobacco after his sister died and then after the
political winds changed direction, it was "boo-hoo-hooo...tobacco
killed my sister?"
Gore even claimed to a singer that she was his favorite artist, and
she came back with, "Name a song, Al!" Of course, he couldn't.
Gore can also claim that he became a Democrat because of how the
"racist" Republicans voted on the 1964 Civil Rights Act, when the
Democrats, including his father, opposed it and voted against it, and
the Republicans voted for it?
For every bit of lunacy expressed by Quayle, there seems to be a dozen
whoppers spewed by Gore. When Gore speaks, manure spews forth.
George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr.
wrote:
>On Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:22:19 -0800, "Jerome Schroeder"
><jer...@keinspam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> Actually Quayle won that debate. But of course the media wouldn't
>>> give him any credit. That is why I don't think there should be
>>> debates, because the media always "claims" who won & that is
>>> supposed to be the end of it.
>>
>>'Cmon. I watched that debate. I admit that I'm a liberal democrat, but you
>>have to really be partisan to believe that Quayle even came close. The man
>>amply demonstrated that he was a doofus.
>
>Yet your friend Gore can claim to invent the internet,
He said he took the initiative in creating it, and, of course, he did,
in that he promoted legislation to provide for the NSF-funded backbone
that you and I are now likely talking on.
You know, when it was just two computers in the UCLA Engineering Dept
- it really wasn't what folks mean by the "internet."
You a classmate of Quayle's or something?
can claim he
>grew up on a Tennessee farm when the closest he got to a farm was
>perhaps a piece of artwork in the Washington DC hotel where he grew
>up,
His folks also had that farm, and, of course, they would go back and
forth. Politicians do that. That's why National Airport is so
dangerously busy - all the politicos, like Gore's dad was, need to fly
in and out of their local districts. They do it all the time.
> can express his computer savvy by pressing "Alt-Cntrl-Del" when
>rebooting, calling is web page "open source" to jump on the Linux
>bandwagon (for which he knows nothing about), can brag that he
>practically swam in tobacco after his sister died and then after the
>political winds changed direction, it was "boo-hoo-hooo...tobacco
>killed my sister?"
Gore tries to reduce tobacco usage. Republicans try to sneak fifty
billion dollar to tobacco firms in the dead of night.
In return for millions in bribes.
I think I'll side with Gore on that one.
But feel free to side with those who kill millions, and bribe half our
elected officials with millions.
>Gore even claimed to a singer that she was his favorite artist, and
>she came back with, "Name a song, Al!" Of course, he couldn't.
>
>Gore can also claim that he became a Democrat because of how the
>"racist" Republicans voted on the 1964 Civil Rights Act, when the
>Democrats, including his father, opposed it and voted against it, and
>the Republicans voted for it?
I recall a Republican back then running for President, and the sly
comment on his slogan was In your heart, you know he's white. My
memory is like that of Gore's. That the Republicans, running as law
and order as a code to say that they were against the blacks. Indeed,
they had a calculated effort to sell out blacks for political gain,
designed in large part by Kevin Phillips, and called the Southern
Strategy. It was devised while Gore was in college, and worked like a
charm, for a while.
You know, these days Republicans also claim to be big supporters of
social security and medicare. That's not how I recall it on that
either.
>
>For every bit of lunacy expressed by Quayle, there seems to be a dozen
>whoppers spewed by Gore. When Gore speaks, manure spews forth.
I look forward to debates between Gore and Bush. Bush, of course, will
run away from them, and the Demos can dust off that old Chicken George
costume, used when his dad was also too chicken to debate on the
issues.
George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr.
Jerome Schroeder
> >Gore can also claim that he became a Democrat because of how the
> >"racist" Republicans voted on the 1964 Civil Rights Act, when the
> >Democrats, including his father, opposed it and voted against it, and
> >the Republicans voted for it?
>
> I recall a Republican back then running for President, and the sly
> comment on his slogan was In your heart, you know he's white. My
> memory is like that of Gore's. That the Republicans, running as law
> and order as a code to say that they were against the blacks. Indeed,
> they had a calculated effort to sell out blacks for political gain,
> designed in large part by Kevin Phillips, and called the Southern
> Strategy. It was devised while Gore was in college, and worked like a
> charm, for a while.
>
GOP in virtually all things but name, and many of them outraged over the
Civil rights acts were to be converted into loyal Republicans. It worked,
but unfortunately they ended up taking over the GOP. Hence we have the
party of Lincoln, Eisenhower, Roosevelt and Hoover now dominated by the
likes of Jesse Helms, Trent Lott and Dick Armey. Lo, how the mighty have
fallen.
Jerry
Jerome Schroeder
> Just got up from a Bush TV ad during the news tonight. He says he wants to
> give back local control of the schools. Sounds good, but then in the next
> breath he wants to dictate curriculum in Head Start by requiring phonics.
> Seems like that would be moving control back to Washington. Wonder which
> promise he plans to keep?
In most areas schools are controlled locally. This is just code for the
reintroduction of segregation.
Jerry
whitepilot
It must be pretty inconvienient for you libs that the leading
conservatives today include the likes of Clarence Thomas, Thomas Soule,
and Alan Keyes.
By the way, can you name any piece of legislation introduced by Dick
Armey, or Trent Lott, that can be construed as racist?
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Mary E Knadler
<jer...@keinspam.hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> >
>> >
>> Actually Quayle won that debate. But of course the media wouldn't
>> give him any credit. That is why I don't think there should be
>> debates, because the media always "claims" who won & that is
>> supposed to be the end of it.
>
>'Cmon. I watched that debate. I admit that I'm a liberal democrat,
but you have to really be partisan to believe that Quayle even came
close. The man amply demonstrated that he was a doofus.
>>
>> reading I believe in the NYT today that the winners of debates
>
>Its spelt "history." There's not a direct correlation, but "winners"
of major debates tend to win election. Of course, sometimes its
difficult to decide who won. The TV talking heads rarely have a clue,
and are mostly reactionary anyway.
>
>> So why bother with them.. It's the media that makes a big deal
>> of them. What most voters want is the guy who wins to do the
>> things they agree with once he's in office.
>
>It gives people a chance to see how the candidate behaves under
pressure and there is always the possibility that what the candidate
believes is true and holy will come out for all to hear. I would
love to hear people like Trent Lott, Jesse Helms or George Bush
admit publically their private views.
>
>Jerry
>
>
I'ld much rather know what Dick Gephardt has in mind for us if
they take back the House. Will he TAKE away all out guns. Will they go
all the way for "Socialized Medicine (rehashed Hillary Care).
Not allow states to have more control over local schools or any choice
in such things a s school vouchers.
That is much more relevant to alot of people than who won a debate
which most people do not even watch anymore.
Rico
>On Sun, 02 Jan 2000 16:18:38 -0500, X Metro Man <pdc...@excite.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:22:19 -0800, "Jerome Schroeder"
>><jer...@keinspam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> give him any credit. That is why I don't think there should be
>>>> debates, because the media always "claims" who won & that is
>>>> supposed to be the end of it.
>>>
>>>'Cmon. I watched that debate. I admit that I'm a liberal democrat, but you
>>>have to really be partisan to believe that Quayle even came close. The man
>>>amply demonstrated that he was a doofus.
>>
>>"racist" Republicans voted on the 1964 Civil Rights Act, when the
>>Democrats, including his father, opposed it and voted against it, and
>>the Republicans voted for it?
>
>I recall a Republican back then running for President, and the sly
>comment on his slogan was In your heart, you know he's white. My
>memory is like that of Gore's. That the Republicans, running as law
>and order as a code to say that they were against the blacks. Indeed,
>they had a calculated effort to sell out blacks for political gain,
>designed in large part by Kevin Phillips, and called the Southern
>Strategy. It was devised while Gore was in college, and worked like a
>charm, for a while.
>
>social security and medicare. That's not how I recall it on that
>either.
>>
>>For every bit of lunacy expressed by Quayle, there seems to be a dozen
>>whoppers spewed by Gore. When Gore speaks, manure spews forth.
>
>I look forward to debates between Gore and Bush. Bush, of course, will
>run away from them, and the Demos can dust off that old Chicken George
>costume, used when his dad was also too chicken to debate on the
>issues.
>
>
>George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr.
The Chicken George suit won't be needed, I'm sure ole GW will agree to debate,
he'll even show up if someone else does the driving and handles the
directions.
Rico
>In <cIMb4.84$sG4....@news.uswest.net> "Jerome Schroeder"
><jer...@keinspam.hotmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> give him any credit. That is why I don't think there should be
>>> debates, because the media always "claims" who won & that is
>>> supposed to be the end of it.
>>
>>'Cmon. I watched that debate. I admit that I'm a liberal democrat,
>but you have to really be partisan to believe that Quayle even came
>close. The man amply demonstrated that he was a doofus.
>>>
>>> reading I believe in the NYT today that the winners of debates
>>> thru history have not necessarily won the voters.
>>
>>Its spelt "history." There's not a direct correlation, but "winners"
>of major debates tend to win election. Of course, sometimes its
>difficult to decide who won. The TV talking heads rarely have a clue,
>and are mostly reactionary anyway.
>>
>>> So why bother with them.. It's the media that makes a big deal
>>> of them. What most voters want is the guy who wins to do the
>>> things they agree with once he's in office.
>>
>>It gives people a chance to see how the candidate behaves under
>pressure and there is always the possibility that what the candidate
>believes is true and holy will come out for all to hear. I would
>love to hear people like Trent Lott, Jesse Helms or George Bush
>admit publically their private views.
>>
>>Jerry
>>
>yasmin2:
>>
>I'ld much rather know what Dick Gephardt has in mind for us if
>they take back the House. Will he TAKE away all out guns. Will they go
>all the way for "Socialized Medicine (rehashed Hillary Care).
>Not allow states to have more control over local schools or any choice
>in such things a s school vouchers.
Just got up from a Bush TV ad during the news tonight. He says he wants to
Mary E Knadler
(Rico) writes:
>
>In article <84op7f$qkc$1...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>,
yas...@ix.netcom.com (Mary E Knadler) wrote:
>>In <cIMb4.84$sG4....@news.uswest.net> "Jerome Schroeder"
>><jer...@keinspam.hotmail.com> writes:
>>yasmin2:
>>>
>>I'ld much rather know what Dick Gephardt has in mind for us if
>>they take back the House. Will he TAKE away all our guns. Will they
go
>>all the way for "Socialized Medicine (rehashed Hillary Care).
>>Not allow states to have more control over local schools or any
choicein such things as school vouchers.
>
>Just got up from a Bush TV ad during the news tonight. He says he
wants to give back local control of the schools. Sounds good, but then
in the next breath he wants to dictate curriculum in Head Start by
requiring phonics.
>Seems like that would be moving control back to Washington. Wonder
which promise he plans to keep?
I don't believe Head Start is part of the local school systems,
anyway. So I don't think that is relevant. I think GOP governors
have wanted more & more control of K thru 12 to be controlled by
the states & down to the local levels.
Johann von Tebbes
Rico wrote in message ...
>In article <jnnv6s02fh7pgoff5...@4ax.com>, "George Leroy
Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyre...@workOMITmail.com> wrote:
>>On Sun, 02 Jan 2000 16:18:38 -0500, X Metro Man <pdc...@excite.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:22:19 -0800, "Jerome Schroeder"
>>><jer...@keinspam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> give him any credit. That is why I don't think there should be
>>>>> debates, because the media always "claims" who won & that is
>>>>> supposed to be the end of it.
>>>>
>>>>'Cmon. I watched that debate. I admit that I'm a liberal democrat, but
you
>>>>have to really be partisan to believe that Quayle even came close. The
man
>>>>amply demonstrated that he was a doofus.
>>>
>>
>>He said he took the initiative in creating it, and, of course, he did,
>>in that he promoted legislation to provide for the NSF-funded backbone
>>that you and I are now likely talking on.
Hey Attention everyone, THIS GUY TIRE-EATER BELIEVES GORE ON THIS BIT OF
NONSENSE!
>>
>>You know, when it was just two computers in the UCLA Engineering Dept
>>- it really wasn't what folks mean by the "internet."
>>
>>You a classmate of Quayle's or something?
>>
>> can claim he
>>>grew up on a Tennessee farm when the closest he got to a farm was
>>>perhaps a piece of artwork in the Washington DC hotel where he grew
>>>up,
>>
>>His folks also had that farm,
TOBACCO FARM, you know!
Johann von Tebbes
whitepilot wrote in message <15f8eaa0...@usw-ex0107-050.remarq.com>...
>Ah, the old "racist republican" line. How original.
>
>It must be pretty inconvienient for you libs that the leading
>conservatives today include the likes of Clarence Thomas, Thomas Soule,
>and Alan Keyes.
>
>By the way, can you name any piece of legislation introduced by Dick
>Armey, or Trent Lott, that can be construed as racist?
I can't but I CAN remember when I lived in Mississippi I knew a few
klansmen. They were all and every one DEMOCRATS!
jvt
Philip Bourgeois
Don't you find it curious that they are now all Republicans? Did you ever
wonder how that came about? How did the Solid Democratic South become the
bastion of Republicanism? Better yet, why?
I can't but I CAN remember when I lived in Mississippi I knew a few
> klansmen. They were all and every one DEMOCRATS
Johann von Tebbes <jti...@tcainternet.com> wrote in message
news:s71h3e...@corp.supernews.com...
George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr.
<jti...@tcainternet.com> wrote:
>
>Rico wrote in message ...
>>In article <jnnv6s02fh7pgoff5...@4ax.com>, "George Leroy
>Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyre...@workOMITmail.com> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 02 Jan 2000 16:18:38 -0500, X Metro Man <pdc...@excite.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:22:19 -0800, "Jerome Schroeder"
>>>><jer...@keinspam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Actually Quayle won that debate. But of course the media wouldn't
>>>>>> give him any credit. That is why I don't think there should be
>>>>>> debates, because the media always "claims" who won & that is
>>>>>> supposed to be the end of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>'Cmon. I watched that debate. I admit that I'm a liberal democrat, but
>you
>>>>>have to really be partisan to believe that Quayle even came close. The
>man
>>>>>amply demonstrated that he was a doofus.
>>>>
>>>>Yet your friend Gore can claim to invent the internet,
>>>
>>>He said he took the initiative in creating it, and, of course, he did,
>>>in that he promoted legislation to provide for the NSF-funded backbone
>>>that you and I are now likely talking on.
>
>Hey Attention everyone, THIS GUY TIRE-EATER BELIEVES GORE ON THIS BIT OF
>NONSENSE!
Yes, because what he said was correct.
It's a weakness in me - believing things which are correct, even when
everyone knows that the Emperor has lovely clothes.
Learn to think independently. It lets you feel just ever so superior
to the hoi polloi. Kind of fun.
George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr.
Johann von Tebbes
Philip Bourgeois wrote in message ...
>
>Don't you find it curious that they are now all Republicans? Did you ever
>wonder how that came about? How did the Solid Democratic South become the
>bastion of Republicanism? Better yet, why?
Easy answer there, Phil. The South was raped by republicans in the 1860's.
It became opposed to republicans. The it was raped again in the 1960's and
turned against the democrats that raped it. Simple, huh?
jvt
whitepilot
One day, the Southern Democrats realized that they had produced Jimmy
Carter. With a howl of agony, they changed their party affiliation.
Again, can anyone name any piece of legislation, introduced by a
Republican over the past ten years, that can be construed as racist?
Jerome Schroeder
Johann von Tebbes <jti...@tcainternet.com> wrote in message
news:s71h3e...@corp.supernews.com...
>
> whitepilot wrote in message
<15f8eaa0...@usw-ex0107-050.remarq.com>...
> >Ah, the old "racist republican" line. How original.
> >
> >It must be pretty inconvienient for you libs that the leading
> >conservatives today include the likes of Clarence Thomas, Thomas Soule,
> >and Alan Keyes.
> >
> >By the way, can you name any piece of legislation introduced by Dick
> >Armey, or Trent Lott, that can be construed as racist?
>
> I can't but I CAN remember when I lived in Mississippi I knew a few
> klansmen. They were all and every one DEMOCRATS!
> jvt
> >
> >
Jerry
Jerome Schroeder
>
> Philip Bourgeois wrote in message ...
> >
> >Don't you find it curious that they are now all Republicans? Did you ever
> >wonder how that came about? How did the Solid Democratic South become the
> >bastion of Republicanism? Better yet, why?
>
> Easy answer there, Phil. The South was raped by republicans in the
1860's.
> It became opposed to republicans. The it was raped again in the 1960's
and
> turned against the democrats that raped it. Simple, huh?
> jvt
> >
equal treatment of blacks and other minoritys. Southern Dems, aka Boll
Weevil Dems, migrated en-masse into the GOP over the issue. Johnson knew
that this would happen, but felt that Civil rights were important enough to
risk it. I suppose to bigots like you, this is "rape."
Jerry
Jerome Schroeder
whitepilot <jaybird...@mosquitonet.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:15f8eaa0...@usw-ex0107-050.remarq.com...
> Ah, the old "racist republican" line. How original.
>
> It must be pretty inconvienient for you libs that the leading
> conservatives today include the likes of Clarence Thomas, Thomas Soule,
> and Alan Keyes.
Besides those three, who have sold out their own people, can you name any
others?
> By the way, can you name any piece of legislation introduced by Dick
> Armey, or Trent Lott, that can be construed as racist?
>
>
Armey ran several of his elections as a segregationist. Trent Lott is hand
in glove with the Neo Confederate movement. Both have fought tooth and
nail against civil rights.
Jerry
Philip Bourgeois
the democrats that raped it."? How was the South raped?
Johann von Tebbes <jti...@tcainternet.com> wrote in message
news:s72a75s...@corp.supernews.com...
>
> Philip Bourgeois wrote in message ...
> >
> >Don't you find it curious that they are now all Republicans? Did you ever
> >wonder how that came about? How did the Solid Democratic South become the
> >bastion of Republicanism? Better yet, why?
>
> Easy answer there, Phil. The South was raped by republicans in the
1860's.
> It became opposed to republicans. The it was raped again in the 1960's
and
> turned against the democrats that raped it. Simple, huh?
> jvt
> >
> >
> >I can't but I CAN remember when I lived in Mississippi I knew a few
> >> klansmen. They were all and every one DEMOCRATS
> >Johann von Tebbes <jti...@tcainternet.com> wrote in message
> >news:s71h3e...@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >> whitepilot wrote in message
> ><15f8eaa0...@usw-ex0107-050.remarq.com>...
> >> >Ah, the old "racist republican" line. How original.
> >> >
> >> >It must be pretty inconvienient for you libs that the leading
> >> >conservatives today include the likes of Clarence Thomas, Thomas
Soule,
> >> >and Alan Keyes.
> >> >
> >> >By the way, can you name any piece of legislation introduced by Dick
> >> >Armey, or Trent Lott, that can be construed as racist?
> >>
> >> I can't but I CAN remember when I lived in Mississippi I knew a few
> >> klansmen. They were all and every one DEMOCRATS!
> >> jvt
> >> >
> >> >
Johann von Tebbes
Jerome Schroeder wrote in message ...
>
>Johann von Tebbes <jti...@tcainternet.com> wrote in message
>news:s72a75s...@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> Philip Bourgeois wrote in message ...
>> >
>> >Don't you find it curious that they are now all Republicans? Did you
ever
>> >wonder how that came about? How did the Solid Democratic South become
the
>> >bastion of Republicanism? Better yet, why?
>>
>> Easy answer there, Phil. The South was raped by republicans in the
>1860's.
>> It became opposed to republicans. The it was raped again in the 1960's
>and
>> turned against the democrats that raped it. Simple, huh?
>> jvt
>> >
mandated
>equal treatment of blacks and other minoritys. Southern Dems, aka Boll
>Weevil Dems, migrated en-masse into the GOP over the issue. Johnson knew
>that this would happen, but felt that Civil rights were important enough to
>risk it. I suppose to bigots like you, this is "rape."
>
>Jerry
FYI, Jerry, rape is rape whether committed by armies of busybodies
or your darling Slick Willy.
jvt
>
>
Johann von Tebbes
Philip Bourgeois wrote in message ...
against
>the democrats that raped it."? How was the South raped?
Rape in this context is actually closer to a metaphor than a direct word.
As I referred to the South during the civil war when the South tried to
exercise it's constitutional right to secede it was over ran by hordes of
vicious hired thugs, beaten into submission and forced to adhere to
Lincoln's capitulation to the industries that were suffering in the Northern
states. Slavery was used as an excuse to imprison the Southern states into
federalization.
During the 1960's the massive hordes were actually leftist busybodies who
wished to force their will on people of the South. I don't have in my hand
exactly their plans but it was well known that blacks would lock-step vote
democrat if voting at all.
Except for Eisenhower it was entirely democrat politicians who pushed this
outrage. The only reason they did it was to acquire the votes of the blacks
of the entire nation they knew they could buy with give-away social
programs.
It worked I'm sad to admit but I couldn't do anything about it because being
a White-Christian-straight Male I had most of my rights taken from me. With
no voice in the media (until Rush came along) I could only stand by and pray
and vote.
jvt
Philip Bourgeois
theory of "Lincoln's capitulation to the industries that were suffering in
the Northern states". I don't know what you mean by "federalization."
What "massive hordes" are you referring to in the 1960's?
Why would the Democrats "push this outrage.......to acquire the votes of the
blacks of the entire nation" (about 11%of the population) and take the
chance to losing a larger number of southern voters?
As a "White Christian straight male" what rights did you lose when blacks
were allowed to vote and use public facilities?news:s749as...@corp.supernews.com...
Johann von Tebbes
Philip Bourgeois wrote in message ...
this
>theory of "Lincoln's capitulation to the industries that were suffering in
>the Northern states".
The textile industry was roaring in Europe because of modernization. They
were turning out better quality cloth much cheaper than the antiquated U.S.
looms could.
The South found their market much more profitable and sold most of the
cotton to European manufacturers.
I don't know what you mean by "federalization."
Simple, forcing the states to bide by federal mandates rather than use their
constitutional given states right to secede.
>What "massive hordes" are you referring to in the 1960's?
Northern 'civil' rights flakes, druggies, busybodies, democrat workers, FBI
coercion (BTW HOOVER didn't care so much but was forced by the Kennedys and
Johnson congresses.)
>Why would the Democrats "push this outrage.......to acquire the votes of
the
>blacks of the entire nation" (about 11%of the population) and take the
>chance to losing a larger number of southern voters?
Because blacks are a lot easier to lead by the nose in voting booths.
White people's votes are usually split.
>As a "White Christian straight male" what rights did you lose when blacks
>were allowed to vote and use public facilities?
For one thing, I lost a promotion with the Post Office that went to a lessor
qualified less experienced black who later got fired for destroying mail.
Promotions were practically automatic for the person with the most longivity
with no negative marks. That was me.
I also lost the right of free speech via risk of being fired so my employer
wouldn't be sued by the feds.
I lost my right to fair and equal representation in the federal and states
government. I didn't have the right to 'politic' in church like the blacks
could because the feds and media turned their heads when the blacks did it.
In fact members of the media encouraged the blacks in church to "make the
cops hit you so we will have something for the evening news."
Johann von Tebbes
Jerome Schroeder wrote in message <2Ngc4.44$%W1....@news.uswest.net>...
>
>whitepilot <jaybird...@mosquitonet.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:15f8eaa0...@usw-ex0107-050.remarq.com...
>>
>> It must be pretty inconvienient for you libs that the leading
>> conservatives today include the likes of Clarence Thomas, Thomas Soule,
>> and Alan Keyes.
>
>others?
>
>> Armey, or Trent Lott, that can be construed as racist?
>>
>>
hand
>in glove with the Neo Confederate movement. Both have fought tooth and
>nail against civil rights.
>
>Jerry
Let's have a little more evidence of that other than your posting, Jerry.
>
>
>
Johann von Tebbes
no-spam-...@world.std.com wrote in message ...
>>>>>> Johann von Tebbes writes:
>
> Johann> Jerome Schroeder wrote in message
<2Ngc4.44$%W1....@news.uswest.net>...
> >>
> >> whitepilot <jaybird...@mosquitonet.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news> 15f8eaa0...@usw-ex0107-050.remarq.com...
> >>> Ah, the old "racist republican" line. How original.
> >>>
> >>> It must be pretty inconvienient for you libs that the leading
> >>> conservatives today include the likes of Clarence Thomas, Thomas
Soule,
> >>> and Alan Keyes.
> >>
> >> Besides those three, who have sold out their own people, can you name
any
> >> others?
> >>
> >>> By the way, can you name any piece of legislation introduced by Dick
> >>> Armey, or Trent Lott, that can be construed as racist?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Armey ran several of his elections as a segregationist. Trent Lott
is
> >> in glove with the Neo Confederate movement. Both have fought tooth
and
> >> nail against civil rights.
> >>
> >> Jerry
>
posting, Jerry.
>
>I do not know about Armey and Lott, but your racism is pretty
>clear in your condemnation of the civil rights movement.
I do love my white race. Just because I won't feel guilty for my ancesters
buying slaves from slave traders who bought slaves from the black slave
traders in Africa you can call me a RACIST if you like. Just don't call me
a leftist.
jvt
>
>
>--
>Andrew Hall
>(Now reading Usenet in talk.politics.misc...)
>
Johann von Tebbes
>
workers, FBI
> Johann> coercion (BTW HOOVER didn't care so much but was forced by the
Kennedys and
> Johann> Johnson congresses.)
>
>Imagine the gall, people that thought blacks were people too, invading
>the south and actually prosecuting people that murdered blacks. That
>must have really upset Mr. Tibbs.
>
> >> Why would the Democrats "push this outrage.......to acquire the votes
of
> >> blacks of the entire nation" (about 11%of the population) and take
the
> >> chance to losing a larger number of southern voters?
>
booths.
> Johann> White people's votes are usually split.
>
> >> As a "White Christian straight male" what rights did you lose when
blacks
> >> were allowed to vote and use public facilities?
>
to a lessor
>
>You claim to be in Mensa but worked in the Post Office. Sure.
>
> Johann> qualified less experienced black who later got fired for
destroying mail.
> Johann> Promotions were practically automatic for the person with the
most longivity
> Johann> with no negative marks. That was me.
> Johann> I also lost the right of free speech via risk of being fired so
my employer
> Johann> wouldn't be sued by the feds.
> Johann> I lost my right to fair and equal representation in the federal
and states
> Johann> government. I didn't have the right to 'politic' in church like
the blacks
>
>Really, by allowing blacks to vote. I really feel for you.
>
> Johann> could because the feds and media turned their heads when the
blacks did it.
> Johann> In fact members of the media encouraged the blacks in church to
"make the
> Johann> cops hit you so we will have something for the evening news."
>
>Sure. Those blacks were just asking for it. But if not for
>the evil northerners those blacks would have been happy washing
>your floors.
Andrew, when did you live in the south? I'll bet never. You know
absolutely nothing more than the left-wing media spoon fed you.
Rich Travsky
> Jerome Schroeder wrote in message <2Ngc4.44$%W1....@news.uswest.net>...
> >whitepilot <jaybird...@mosquitonet.com.invalid> wrote in message
> >news:15f8eaa0...@usw-ex0107-050.remarq.com...
> >> Ah, the old "racist republican" line. How original.
> >>
> >> It must be pretty inconvienient for you libs that the leading
> >> conservatives today include the likes of Clarence Thomas, Thomas Soule,
> >> and Alan Keyes.
> >
> >Besides those three, who have sold out their own people, can you name any
> >others?
> >
> >> By the way, can you name any piece of legislation introduced by Dick
> >> Armey, or Trent Lott, that can be construed as racist?
> >>
> >Armey ran several of his elections as a segregationist. Trent Lott is
> >in glove with the Neo Confederate movement. Both have fought tooth and
> >nail against civil rights.
>
How about:
http://www.fair.org/press-releases/lott-update.html
In 1997 Lott met held a private meeting with CCC leaders in his Washington,
D.C. office, a photo and account of the meeting
appeared in the CCC's publication, Citizens Informer, later that year.
In 1997 the CCC used an endorsement quote from Lott for direct mail.
In 1995 Lott addressed a Mississippi-based CCC function.
In 1992 Lott was the featured speaker and issued strong praise of the CCC
at its national conference.
In 1991, according to Gordon Lee Baum, Lott addressed another Mississippi
gathering of the CCC.
The Spring 1989 edition of Citizens Informer, the CCC's newsletter, features a
photo of Lott with his uncle, who is identified as an
executive of CCC, and his cousin, who's identified as a CCC member.
Lott's column has been a regular feature of Citizens Informer for years.
Lott denied his association with the racist CCC when exposed by the NY Times.
But:
"We're a rather large organization in Mississippi. I would assume
someone as astute as Mr. Lott would have a pretty good grasp of us."
-- Gordon L. Baum, chief executive officer of the CCC
"The People in this room stand for the right principles and the right
philosophy."
--Senator Trent Lott, R-Mississippi, 1990, speaking before the
governing board of the racist Conservative Citizens Council--
"There is still time. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights
Act of 1965 should be repealed!"
--Tut Patterson, one of the leaders of the racist Conseravtive Citizens
Council, 1998, in the CCC's monthly newsletter--
See also http://www.mindspring.com/~newtknight/Trentlott.htm for more.
Jerome Schroeder
ancesters
> buying slaves from slave traders who bought slaves from the black slave
> traders in Africa you can call me a RACIST if you like. Just don't call
me
> a leftist.
> jvt
> >
is a more accurate term. Make sure that you let everyone know that you are
a Republican.
Jerry
Jerome Schroeder
> It worked I'm sad to admit but I couldn't do anything about it because
being
> a White-Christian-straight Male I had most of my rights taken from me.
With
> no voice in the media (until Rush came along) I could only stand by and
pray
> and vote.
> jvt
>
right taken away from vermin like you was the right to hold lynching partys.
Jerry
Jerome Schroeder
whitepilot <jaybird...@mosquitonet.com.invalid> wrote in message
> As for why the south turned Republican, I've got another possibility.
>
> One day, the Southern Democrats realized that they had produced Jimmy
> Carter. With a howl of agony, they changed their party affiliation.
>
> Again, can anyone name any piece of legislation, introduced by a
>
The only legislation that Republicans introduce is designed to feather the
nests of their fat cat supporters. Other wise, they merely are agin it. If
legislation is designed to keep the bullys at bay, and help those who really
need it, than the GOP is really against it.
Jerry
whitepilot
> > conservatives today include the likes of Clarence Thomas, Thomas
> Soule,
> > and Alan Keyes.
> Besides those three, who have sold out their own people, can you
> name any
> others?
Well, how about J.C. Watts, and Ken Hamblin. Satisfied? I hope so
because this game is childish.
As for "selling out their own people," is that how you handle people
who do not agree with you? Just becuase someone is black, that does not
mean they have to march in ideological lock-step with Clinton, the
NAACP, and Chris Rock. These people are Americans who hold their own
views, and are living their lives, and beleiving however they want to.
Heaven forbid they should not agree with you. To say that they are,
somehow, not black enough, is racist. Funny how it's the libs that hold
these views...
Armey ran several of his elections as a segregationist. Trent
> Lott is hand
> in glove with the Neo Confederate movement. Both have fought
> tooth and
> nail against civil rights.
Which elections are you talking aboout? How is Lott a neo-confederist?
What have they done in opposition to civil rights? Show me proof. If
you are going to make serious allegations such as these, then you need
to do your homework. To fling them out with no proof just tells me that
you don't have any idea what you are talking about.
Again, here you demonstrate the liberal tendency to demonize anyone who
does not agree with them. It is not possible to have a meaningful
discussion with anyone, if they are making wild accusations such as
these.
That goes for your most recent post, too. I am asking for specific
pieces of legislation, not gross generalizations that you heard on the
"Rosie O'donnel" show.
Mary E Knadler
<jti...@tcainternet.com> writes:
>
>
>Jerome Schroeder wrote in message
<2Ngc4.44$%W1....@news.uswest.net>...
>>
>>> Ah, the old "racist republican" line. How original.
>>>
>>> conservatives today include the likes of Clarence Thomas, Thomas
Soule, and Alan Keyes.
>>
>>Besides those three, who have sold out their own people, can you
name any others?
yasmin2:
Why do you say they have sold out their own people if they happen
to become conservatives. Do they not have the same right to think for
themselves. Do they have to accept the liberal idea that they
need "affirmative action" to succeed, meaning you cannot do it on your
own. You need..... us either the Government or the Democrat Party to
succeed. That you need to be given things rather than
achieving them as others do.
Isn't that a racist position to think they do not have the same
abilities that others (asian or whites) have. Aren't you demeaning
them with such ideas?
Johann von Tebbes
Jerome Schroeder wrote in message ...
I have been a Republican party member. I became one when Sick Willy got
elected. I also have been a democratic voter until I, as a white straight
male Christian, was disenfranchised by the dems. Right now I am not a
member of any party. But I'm certainly not going to vote democrat soon.
jvt
>
>
Johann von Tebbes
Mary E Knadler wrote in message <84uhid$9i8$1...@nntp6.atl.mindspring.net>...
>>>
>>>whitepilot <jaybird...@mosquitonet.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>news:15f8eaa0...@usw-ex0107-050.remarq.com...
>>>> Ah, the old "racist republican" line. How original.
>>>>
>>>> It must be pretty inconvienient for you libs that the leading
>>>> conservatives today include the likes of Clarence Thomas, Thomas
>Soule, and Alan Keyes.
>>>
>>>Besides those three, who have sold out their own people, can you
>name any others?
>
>yasmin2:
>
>Why do you say they have sold out their own people if they happen
>to become conservatives. Do they not have the same right to think for
>themselves. Do they have to accept the liberal idea that they
>need "affirmative action" to succeed, meaning you cannot do it on your
>own. You need..... us either the Government or the Democrat Party to
>succeed. That you need to be given things rather than
>achieving them as others do.
>
>Isn't that a racist position to think they do not have the same
>abilities that others (asian or whites) have. Aren't you demeaning
>them with such ideas?
Yes, Mary, they are demeaning them while convincing them they are helpless.
That's the democrats power base (bloc voters) who are made afraid of trying
to do something for themselves. As A Southerner I regret having heard the
expression "Feed'em and they will keep coming back" meaning the blacks.
jvt
>
>
>
Johann von Tebbes
Jerome Schroeder wrote in message <32zc4.1057$_X.3...@news.uswest.net>...
People like you prove the need for lynching parties.
>
>
Johann von Tebbes
> >>>>>>> Johann von Tebbes writes:
> >>
> Johann> Jerome Schroeder wrote in message
> >> 2Ngc4.44$%W1....@news.uswest.net>...
> >> >>
> >> >> whitepilot <jaybird...@mosquitonet.com.invalid> wrote in
message
> news> 15f8eaa0...@usw-ex0107-050.remarq.com...
> >> >>> Ah, the old "racist republican" line. How original.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It must be pretty inconvienient for you libs that the leading
> >> >>> conservatives today include the likes of Clarence Thomas, Thomas
> >> >>> and Alan Keyes.
> >> >>
> >> >> Besides those three, who have sold out their own people, can you
name
> >> >> others?
> >> >>
> >> >>> By the way, can you name any piece of legislation introduced by
Dick
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >> Armey ran several of his elections as a segregationist. Trent
Lott
> Johann> hand
> >> >> in glove with the Neo Confederate movement. Both have fought
tooth
> >> >> nail against civil rights.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jerry
> >>
> Johann> Let's have a little more evidence of that other than your
> Johann> posting, Jerry.
> >>
> >> I do not know about Armey and Lott, but your racism is pretty
> >> clear in your condemnation of the civil rights movement.
>
my ancesters
> Johann> buying slaves from slave traders who bought slaves from the
black slave
> Johann> traders in Africa you can call me a RACIST if you like. Just
don't call me
> Johann> a leftist.
>
>No, I called you a racist for complaining about allowing blacks
>to vote, for complaining about the prosecutions of whites who
>lynched blacks. Not for your straw reasons.
I never complained about allowing blacks to vote. They were allowed to vote
before the busybodies came south. All they had to do was what every other
person had to do to qualify. Two ($2) from every citizen helped pay for the
election costs. Given a sentence out of the constitution everyone was
required to prove they could understand it. If they couldn't read someone
would read it for them and even explain if asked questions.
Now, anyone could come up with 2 bucks. And anyone who couldn't understand
ONE sentence of the constitution should have little to say in government was
the reasoning behind those two requirements.
The real reason you called me a racist is that you have no other way to
respond to truth and logic.
The myth that blacks weren't allowed to vote was disinformation put out by
the busybodies and their media accomplices. IE: staged events for the
camera etc.
>You are clearly a racist, and that is nasty stuff.
You are clearly a race-baiting leftist and THAT is nasty stuff.
tony G as Frank Cannon
In the interest of fairness and intelectual endevor I would ask that
you supply some sources for this opinion of yours.
Of course obviously biased sources are worthless so no Klan web sites
or articles put out by states rights parties in the 60's.
I would also be interested in the knowing where in the constitution or
the amendments that a poll tax is allowed.
Johann von Tebbes
no-spam-...@world.std.com wrote in message ...
>>>>>> Johann von Tebbes writes:
>
> Johann> no-spam-...@world.std.com wrote in message ...
> >>>>>>> Johann von Tebbes writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> Johann> Northern 'civil' rights flakes, druggies, busybodies, democrat
> Johann> coercion (BTW HOOVER didn't care so much but was forced by the
> Johann> Johnson congresses.)
> >>
> >> Imagine the gall, people that thought blacks were people too,
invading
> >> the south and actually prosecuting people that murdered blacks. That
> >> must have really upset Mr. Tibbs.
> >>
> >> >> Why would the Democrats "push this outrage.......to acquire the
votes
> Johann> the
> >> >> blacks of the entire nation" (about 11%of the population) and take
> >> >> chance to losing a larger number of southern voters?
> >>
> Johann> Because blacks are a lot easier to lead by the nose in voting
> Johann> White people's votes are usually split.
> >>
> >> >> As a "White Christian straight male" what rights did you lose when
> >> >> were allowed to vote and use public facilities?
> >>
> Johann> For one thing, I lost a promotion with the Post Office that went
> >>
> >> You claim to be in Mensa but worked in the Post Office. Sure.
> >>
> Johann> qualified less experienced black who later got fired for
> Johann> Promotions were practically automatic for the person with the
> Johann> with no negative marks. That was me.
> Johann> I also lost the right of free speech via risk of being fired so
> Johann> wouldn't be sued by the feds.
> Johann> I lost my right to fair and equal representation in the federal
> Johann> government. I didn't have the right to 'politic' in church like
> >>
> >> Really, by allowing blacks to vote. I really feel for you.
> >>
> Johann> could because the feds and media turned their heads when the
> Johann> In fact members of the media encouraged the blacks in church to
> Johann> cops hit you so we will have something for the evening news."
> >>
> >> Sure. Those blacks were just asking for it. But if not for
> >> the evil northerners those blacks would have been happy washing
> >> your floors.
>
know
> Johann> absolutely nothing more than the left-wing media spoon fed you.
>
>I know you are a racist pig, and you are only the second
>or third Usenet poster I have said that about.
I'll bet. But when you say you 'know' something, the subject itself is
discredited as your 'knowledge' is governed by your 'feelthink' and the
liberal mafia media.
jvt
Johann von Tebbes
> >>
> >>> It worked I'm sad to admit but I couldn't do anything about it
because
> >> being
> >>> a White-Christian-straight Male I had most of my rights taken from
me.
> >> With
> >>> no voice in the media (until Rush came along) I could only stand by
and
> >> pray
> >>> and vote.
> >>> jvt
> >>>
> >> Not only are you a rascist ignoramus, you cheerfully admit it. The
only
> >> right taken away from vermin like you was the right to hold lynching
> >>
> >> Jerry
>
> Johann> People like you prove the need for lynching parties.
>
>You really miss the old days, eh!
>
>I have long known you were an immoral fool, but had no idea
>how low you really were.
>
>Thanks for showing to all what a vile racist you are.
>
>
>--
>Andrew Hall
>(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
Andrew, if you tried women sometimes you may not be so full of leftist hate.
Oh, well, it's just a suggestion anyway as I know you won't. You probably
couldn't get one even if you wanted to.
jvt
>
Johann von Tebbes
tony G as Frank Cannon wrote in message
<3876a2cc...@news.supernews.com>...>>> Johann> no-spam-...@world.std.com wrote in message ...
>>> >>>>>>> Johann von Tebbes writes:
>>> >>
>>> Johann> Jerome Schroeder wrote in message
I was there my boy. I lived it. Unfortunately the TV tapes I saw were
destroyed by the networks after one station in Jackson aired them. The
station was denied it's affiliate with the network when the contract was up.
>
>Of course obviously biased sources are worthless so no Klan web sites
>or articles put out by states rights parties in the 60's.
>
>I would also be interested in the knowing where in the constitution or
>the amendments that a poll tax is allowed.
They never were disallowed.
>
>>>You are clearly a racist, and that is nasty stuff.
>>
>>You are clearly a race-baiting leftist and THAT is nasty stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Andrew Hall
>>>(Now reading Usenet in talk.politics.misc...)
>>>
>>
>
>
Johann von Tebbes
no-spam-...@world.std.com wrote in message ...
>>>>>> Johann von Tebbes writes:
>
> Johann> no-spam-...@world.std.com wrote in message ...
> >>>>>>> Johann von Tebbes writes:
> >>
> Johann> no-spam-...@world.std.com wrote in message ...
> >> >>>>>>> Johann von Tebbes writes:
> >> >>
> Johann> Jerome Schroeder wrote in message
> >> >> 2Ngc4.44$%W1....@news.uswest.net>...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> whitepilot <jaybird...@mosquitonet.com.invalid> wrote in
> news> 15f8eaa0...@usw-ex0107-050.remarq.com...
> >> >> >>> Ah, the old "racist republican" line. How original.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> It must be pretty inconvienient for you libs that the leading
> >> >> >>> conservatives today include the likes of Clarence Thomas,
Thomas
> Johann> Soule,
> >> >> >>> and Alan Keyes.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Besides those three, who have sold out their own people, can
you
> Johann> any
> >> >> >> others?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> By the way, can you name any piece of legislation introduced
by
> >> >> >>> Armey, or Trent Lott, that can be construed as racist?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> Armey ran several of his elections as a segregationist. Trent
> Johann> is
> Johann> hand
> >> >> >> in glove with the Neo Confederate movement. Both have fought
> Johann> and
> >> >> >> nail against civil rights.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Jerry
> >> >>
> Johann> Let's have a little more evidence of that other than your
> Johann> posting, Jerry.
> >> >>
> >> >> I do not know about Armey and Lott, but your racism is pretty
> >> >> clear in your condemnation of the civil rights movement.
I knew all along you didn't know anything about Armey and Lott. You know
just about that much about me.
> >>
> Johann> I do love my white race. Just because I won't feel guilty for
> Johann> my ancesters
> Johann> buying slaves from slave traders who bought slaves from the
> Johann> black slave
> Johann> traders in Africa you can call me a RACIST if you like. Just
> Johann> don't call me
> Johann> a leftist.
> >>
> >> No, I called you a racist for complaining about allowing blacks
> >> to vote, for complaining about the prosecutions of whites who
> >> lynched blacks. Not for your straw reasons.
>
> Johann> I never complained about allowing blacks to vote. They were
allowed to vote
>
>Yes you did. You said you lost your power. You did not lose your
>power, you just had to share it with blacks.
>
> Johann> before the busybodies came south. All they had to do was what
every other
> Johann> person had to do to qualify. Two ($2) from every citizen helped
pay for the
>
>Bullshit. You know all about that stuff don't you.
>
> Johann> election costs. Given a sentence out of the constitution
everyone was
> Johann> required to prove they could understand it. If they couldn't
read someone
> Johann> would read it for them and even explain if asked questions.
>
>Sure, and you are a mensan that was passed over for a promotion
>at the post office. I have a nifty bridge for sale.
I can't prove the passed over promotion but the other thing I can prove. I
might talk to you about swapping Lake Pontchartrain for you bridge.
>
> Johann> Now, anyone could come up with 2 bucks. And anyone who couldn't
understand
> Johann> ONE sentence of the constitution should have little to say in
government was
> Johann> the reasoning behind those two requirements.
> Johann> The real reason you called me a racist is that you have no other
way to
> Johann> respond to truth and logic.
>
>No, I call you a racist because your words proved you to be a racist.
And your words prove you know nothing that's not spoon-fed to you by the
leftist media.
>
>Next you will be telling us that blacks were given schools that were just
>as good, and were allowed to sit down on the buses.
I honestly don't know from first hand on those two items and you don't
either.
>
> Johann> The myth that blacks weren't allowed to vote was disinformation
put out by
> Johann> the busybodies and their media accomplices. IE: staged events
for the
> Johann> camera etc.
>
>How about that bridge? NAW, I've got too many non fluid assets now and I'm
retired.
>
>Look fool, I lived for a while with a black family in Mississippi. Your
>lies do not wash.
I lived 15 years in Mississippi, 9 yrs in Louisiana, 24 years in Texas, 11
years in various military assignments, 7 years in Arkansas.
I know a helluva lot more than you do about the South.
>
> >> You are clearly a racist, and that is nasty stuff.
>
> Johann> You are clearly a race-baiting leftist and THAT is nasty stuff.
>
>I am not a leftist in any sense of the word. Your cluelessness
>is showing again.
Responding in kind, me laddie or is it lassie?
Jerome Schroeder
know
> Johann> absolutely nothing more than the left-wing media spoon fed you.
>
> I know you are a racist pig, and you are only the second
> or third Usenet poster I have said that about.
> --
> Andrew Hall
The real problem with twits like Tebbes is that is very difficult to insult
them. Even when you dig up slams from the bottom of the barrel, you are
merely stating a fact.
Jerry
Jerome Schroeder
>
> You claim to be in Mensa but worked in the Post Office. Sure.
>
work at the Seattle PO. He too is a right winger.
Jerry
Jerome Schroeder
> I lived 15 years in Mississippi, 9 yrs in Louisiana, 24 years in Texas, 11
> years in various military assignments, 7 years in Arkansas.
> I know a helluva lot more than you do about the South.
Well, at least the white racist bigot part.
Jerry
Jerome Schroeder
> >> >
> >Finally out of the closet. No, I won't call you a leftist, Scumbag
RACIST
> >is a more accurate term. Make sure that you let everyone know that you
> are
> >a Republican.
> >
> >Jerry
>
> I have been a Republican party member. I became one when Sick Willy got
> elected. I also have been a democratic voter until I, as a white straight
> male Christian, was disenfranchised by the dems. Right now I am not a
> member of any party. But I'm certainly not going to vote democrat soon.
> jvt
> >
bigot. Are you putting us on, or do you actually believe the BS you
spout. Of course you left the Democratic party. They pushed thru civil
rights legislation and ended the two-bit local tyrannys so beloved by you
guys. The GOP is welcome to you. Just spread the word that you've
changed your political affiliation.
Jerry
sal...@my-deja.com
> I never complained about allowing blacks to vote. They were allowed
to vote
other
for the
someone
understand
government was
to
out by
>
This poster is worse than a fool.
I grew up in the South. In the late 40's, 50's.
Either this person is totally ignorant, or a liar. One of the two.
Any colored person (that's what we called them) who attempted to
register to vote in a rural southern area was quite likely to lose
their job and/or their house. If not their life.
Next he'll be saying that George Wallace standing in the schoolhouse
door wasn't really uttering the line "Segregation now, segregation
tomorrow, segregation forever."
The only reason I bother posting this is the thought that there's some
twenty-year old out there who didn't live through this stuff and who
might take this guy seriously.
In fact, slavery existed in the South well into the 50's. Just had a
different name.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
tony G as Frank Cannon
<jti...@tcainternet.com> wrote:
>
>tony G as Frank Cannon wrote in message
><3876a2cc...@news.supernews.com>...
>>On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 05:04:53 -0600, "Johann von Tebbes"
>><jti...@tcainternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>no-spam-...@world.std.com wrote in message ...
>>>>>>>>> Johann von Tebbes writes:
>>>>
>>>> Johann> no-spam-...@world.std.com wrote in message ...
>>>> >>>>>>> Johann von Tebbes writes:
>>>> >>
>>>> Johann> Jerome Schroeder wrote in message
>>>> >> 2Ngc4.44$%W1....@news.uswest.net>...
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> whitepilot <jaybird...@mosquitonet.com.invalid> wrote in
>>>message
>>>> news> 15f8eaa0...@usw-ex0107-050.remarq.com...
>>>> >> >>> Ah, the old "racist republican" line. How original.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> It must be pretty inconvienient for you libs that the leading
>>>> >> >>> conservatives today include the likes of Clarence Thomas,
>Thomas
>>>> Johann> Soule,
>>>> >> >>> and Alan Keyes.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Besides those three, who have sold out their own people, can you
>>>name
>>>> Johann> any
>>>> >> >> others?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> By the way, can you name any piece of legislation introduced by
>>>Dick
>>>> >> >>> Armey, or Trent Lott, that can be construed as racist?
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> Armey ran several of his elections as a segregationist. Trent
>>>Lott
>>>> Johann> is
>>>> Johann> hand
>>>> >> >> in glove with the Neo Confederate movement. Both have fought
>>>tooth
>>>> Johann> and
>>>> >> >> nail against civil rights.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Jerry
>>>> >>
>>>> Johann> Let's have a little more evidence of that other than your
>>>> Johann> posting, Jerry.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I do not know about Armey and Lott, but your racism is pretty
>>>> >> clear in your condemnation of the civil rights movement.
>>>>
>>>> Johann> I do love my white race. Just because I won't feel guilty for
>>>my ancesters
>>>> Johann> buying slaves from slave traders who bought slaves from the
>>>black slave
>>>> Johann> traders in Africa you can call me a RACIST if you like. Just
>>>don't call me
>>>> Johann> a leftist.
>>>>
>>>>No, I called you a racist for complaining about allowing blacks
>>>>to vote, for complaining about the prosecutions of whites who
>>>>lynched blacks. Not for your straw reasons.
>>>
>>>I never complained about allowing blacks to vote. They were allowed to
>vote
>>>before the busybodies came south. All they had to do was what every other
>>>person had to do to qualify. Two ($2) from every citizen helped pay for
>the
>>>election costs. Given a sentence out of the constitution everyone was
>>>required to prove they could understand it. If they couldn't read someone
>>>would read it for them and even explain if asked questions.
>>>Now, anyone could come up with 2 bucks. And anyone who couldn't
>understand
>>>ONE sentence of the constitution should have little to say in government
>was
>>>the reasoning behind those two requirements.
>>>The real reason you called me a racist is that you have no other way to
>>>respond to truth and logic.
>>>The myth that blacks weren't allowed to vote was disinformation put out by
>>>the busybodies and their media accomplices. IE: staged events for the
>>>camera etc.
>>
>>In the interest of fairness and intelectual endevor I would ask that
>>you supply some sources for this opinion of yours.
>
>I was there my boy. I lived it. Unfortunately the TV tapes I saw were
>destroyed by the networks after one station in Jackson aired them. The
>station was denied it's affiliate with the network when the contract was up.
So you don't have any proof other than "the conspiracy". SHHH
Tapes of what by the way?
>>
>>Of course obviously biased sources are worthless so no Klan web sites
>>or articles put out by states rights parties in the 60's.
>>
>>I would also be interested in the knowing where in the constitution or
>>the amendments that a poll tax is allowed.
>
>They never were disallowed.
Refresh my memory, wasn't it the supreme court that did away with
them?
>>>>You are clearly a racist, and that is nasty stuff.
>>>
>>>You are clearly a race-baiting leftist and THAT is nasty stuff.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
Jerome Schroeder
bigots like Herr von Tebbes, but Its good to have this out in the open.
Indeed, I suspect that Tebbes would regard a connection with the CCC as a
plus.
Jerry
Rich Travsky <rtra...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu> wrote in message
news:3872A4DC...@REMOVETHISuwyo.edu...
> Johann von Tebbes wrote:
> > Jerome Schroeder wrote in message <2Ngc4.44$%W1....@news.uswest.net>...
> > >whitepilot <jaybird...@mosquitonet.com.invalid> wrote in message
> > >news:15f8eaa0...@usw-ex0107-050.remarq.com...
> > >> Ah, the old "racist republican" line. How original.
> > >>
> > >> It must be pretty inconvienient for you libs that the leading
> > >> conservatives today include the likes of Clarence Thomas, Thomas
Soule,
> > >> and Alan Keyes.
> > >
> > >Besides those three, who have sold out their own people, can you name
any
> > >others?
> > >
> > >> By the way, can you name any piece of legislation introduced by Dick
> > >> Armey, or Trent Lott, that can be construed as racist?
> > >>
> > >Armey ran several of his elections as a segregationist. Trent Lott is
> > hand
> > >in glove with the Neo Confederate movement. Both have fought tooth
and
> > >nail against civil rights.
> >
Jerome Schroeder
> >>> conservatives today include the likes of Clarence Thomas, Thomas
> Soule, and Alan Keyes.
> >>
> >>Besides those three, who have sold out their own people, can you
> name any others?
>
>
> Why do you say they have sold out their own people if they happen
> to become conservatives
Mary,
They have joined a party dominated by racists, bigots, unreconstructed
dixiecrats and fundies. The GOP is no longer conservative, It is merely
reactionary. There is a difference.
Jerry
Jerome Schroeder
> Yet your friend Gore can claim to invent the internet,
A. I've never met the man, so he can't be called a friend. Tho I will
almost certainly vote for him.
B. He was involved in the implementation of arpanet, which ultimately became
the internet. So in a sense, he was one of the instigators of this
conversation. Recently when asked if he had any political regrets, he
remarked that he wished he had never said that he had "invented the
internet." He clearly knows that it isn't true and would be one of the
first to admit it. Right wingers, lacking anything better, have run with
this mistatement.
Too bad you are not this critical with guys on your side of the fence.
Jerry
Damien Falgoust
Gore claims to be a "born again Christian." Yet in December, he made
the claim (like Hillary Clinton) that Joseph and Mary were "homeless."
I'm sorry, but that's flatly false. Mary and Joseph left Nazareth
(where they had a home) to go to Bethlehem for a census to pay their
taxes. There was no room at the inns in town, so they stayed in the
manger.
An inability to find a hotel room is NOT homelessness. As a "born
again Christian," isn't it odd that Gore apparently doesn't have even
a passing understanding of the Christmas story?
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Damien Falgoust
Sun, 02 Jan 2000 15:38:13 -0800:
>>Yet your friend Gore can claim to invent the internet,
>
>He said he took the initiative in creating it, and, of course, he did,
>in that he promoted legislation to provide for the NSF-funded backbone
>that you and I are now likely talking on.
>You know, when it was just two computers in the UCLA Engineering Dept
>- it really wasn't what folks mean by the "internet."
>You a classmate of Quayle's or something?
No, but by the time ARPANet was running it was. Or later when it was
privatized. 1988 is a wee bit late to come to the "creating" party.
(snip)
>> can brag that he
>>practically swam in tobacco after his sister died and then after the
>>political winds changed direction, it was "boo-hoo-hooo...tobacco
>>killed my sister?"
>
>Gore tries to reduce tobacco usage. Republicans try to sneak fifty
>billion dollar to tobacco firms in the dead of night.
>In return for millions in bribes.
Proof? Bribery and public corruption are serious charges, George.
You should be prepared to back them up.
>I think I'll side with Gore on that one.
>But feel free to side with those who kill millions, and bribe half our
>elected officials with millions.
You miss the point. The timeline runs something like this:
1982 - Gore's sister dies of lung cancer
1988 - When running for the Democratic nomination, Gore brags to
tobacco farmers that he's "grown it, hoed it," etc., etc.
1992 - Gore weeps about his sister's death and the evils of tobacco
companies.
Riddle me this, Batman: if Gore was so broken up about his sister's
death at the hands of "evil tobacco," why'd he pander so hard to the
tobbacco farmers just four years earlier?
>>Gore can also claim that he became a Democrat because of how the
>>"racist" Republicans voted on the 1964 Civil Rights Act, when the
>>Democrats, including his father, opposed it and voted against it, and
>>the Republicans voted for it?
>
>I recall a Republican back then running for President, and the sly
>comment on his slogan was In your heart, you know he's white. My
>memory is like that of Gore's. That the Republicans, running as law
>and order as a code to say that they were against the blacks. Indeed,
>they had a calculated effort to sell out blacks for political gain,
>designed in large part by Kevin Phillips, and called the Southern
>Strategy. It was devised while Gore was in college, and worked like a
>charm, for a while.
Ahem. What percentage of Congressional Republicans voted for the '64
Act, compared to what percentage of Congressional Democrats? There
may have been racist Republicans in Congress at the time, but there
were a lot more racist Democrats.
(snip)
Damien Falgoust
2000 18:40:34 -0800:
>
>> Yet your friend Gore can claim to invent the internet,
>
>A. I've never met the man, so he can't be called a friend. Tho I will
>almost certainly vote for him.
>
>B. He was involved in the implementation of arpanet, which ultimately became
>the internet. So in a sense, he was one of the instigators of this
>conversation.
(snip)
Uhhhh.....no. ARPANET was first proposed in 1966 by Lawrence Roberts,
a researcher at MIT. It was first put into operation in 1969. The
first e-mail message was sent over ARPANET in 1971. Usenet was
established on ARPANET in 1979.
In 1983, ARPANET was split into MILNET and ARPANET. That same year,
TCP/IP is born, which is really the beginning of the modern Internet.
Also that same year, the first name server is established at the
University of Wisconsin. In 1984, the Domain Name Server (DNS) is
established.
In 1987, Merit Systems wins the contract to manage the NSF backbone.
In 1988, Gore held his vaunted hearings on the Internet that expanded
the backbone.
The point being, Gore wasn't involved in any of the "firsts," and he
certainly had nothing to do with ARPANET.
ebrockway
1 Okay, so Quayle misspelled potato. Happy?
2 Okay, Newt screwed the pooch with "his" affair. At least HE had the
nutz to leave.
> B. He was involved in the implementation of arpanet, which ultimately
became
> the internet. So in a sense, he was one of the instigators of this
> conversation. Recently when asked if he had any political regrets, he
> remarked that he wished he had never said that he had "invented the
> internet." He clearly knows that it isn't true and would be one of the
> first to admit it. Right wingers, lacking anything better, have run with
> this mistatement.
Where exactly was he involved? And by the way, Gore gives us PLENTY to
run with.
Love them debates with Bradley? At last, the stuff he's pulled comes
back at him, and at last, the media is actually listening.
"Jerome Schroeder" <jer...@keinspam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dncd4.1278$ni1....@news.uswest.net...
>
> > Yet your friend Gore can claim to invent the internet,
>
> A. I've never met the man, so he can't be called a friend. Tho I will
> almost certainly vote for him.
>
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
Papa Bear
their accomplishment. In fact, the current Republican leadership ran
the moderates who had dared to vote for civil rights out of the party
(You many remember the famous photo of Rockefeller giving them the
finger from the podium of the Republican National Convention). They
openly courted most of the racist Democrats, and got them in the fold
too.
George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr.
dfal...@alumni.utexas.net.REMOVE.THIS.SPAM.FILTER (Damien Falgoust)
wrote:
>"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyre...@workOMITmail.com> wrote on
>Sun, 02 Jan 2000 15:38:13 -0800:
>
>>>Yet your friend Gore can claim to invent the internet,
>>
>>He said he took the initiative in creating it, and, of course, he did,
>>in that he promoted legislation to provide for the NSF-funded backbone
>>that you and I are now likely talking on.
>>You know, when it was just two computers in the UCLA Engineering Dept
>>- it really wasn't what folks mean by the "internet."
>>You a classmate of Quayle's or something?
>
>No, but by the time ARPANet was running it was. Or later when it was
>privatized. 1988 is a wee bit late to come to the "creating" party.
The broad communications network we talk on now is the result of that
legislation. It is the BROAD, WIDESPREAD, GLOBAL, BIGDEAL
communication network that we mean when we say "INTERNET," and not a
small group of Universities.
So setting up the NSF spine which made THAT thing does count.'
And as I understand it, the NSF still is integral to all these
electrons. I could be wrong, but I don't think the thing is altogether
privatized even today.
>
>(snip)
>>> can brag that he
>>>practically swam in tobacco after his sister died and then after the
>>>political winds changed direction, it was "boo-hoo-hooo...tobacco
>>>killed my sister?"
>>
>>Gore tries to reduce tobacco usage. Republicans try to sneak fifty
>>billion dollar to tobacco firms in the dead of night.
>>In return for millions in bribes.
>
>Proof? Bribery and public corruption are serious charges, George.
>You should be prepared to back them up.
My opinion. The price hikes of the last year are doubtless a big
reason for the ten percent decline in usage. Repubs know this. So
explain WHY they would want to soften those price hikes, knowing that
it would kill countless people, for a reason other than the eight
million dollars they have gotten?
I can't think of a good, plausible explanation other than bribery.
But, of course, I suppose I could be wrong. But my opinion is that
this mass-killing effort of theirs was bought and paid for.
>
>>I think I'll side with Gore on that one.
>>But feel free to side with those who kill millions, and bribe half our
>>elected officials with millions.
>
>You miss the point.
No I don't. It probably took time for folks to decide feeding
Christians to the Lions, for sport, was a bad idea. It used to be
fine. But then people began to get hip. And they shifted to being
good.
SO too with tobacco, it took time for its murderous nature to sink in.
Gore has sided with the angels, now. Repubs, despite the clear
knowledge of their devilish deeds, are still satanic.
The timeline runs something like this:
>
>1982 - Gore's sister dies of lung cancer
>1988 - When running for the Democratic nomination, Gore brags to
>tobacco farmers that he's "grown it, hoed it," etc., etc.
>1992 - Gore weeps about his sister's death and the evils of tobacco
>companies.
What exactly do you think this proves? That Gore pointed out a
similarity he shared with tobacco farmers, knowing that what they do
is horrible?
I concede. So what? Who cares?
>
>Riddle me this, Batman: if Gore was so broken up about his sister's
>death at the hands of "evil tobacco," why'd he pander so hard to the
>tobbacco farmers just four years earlier?
He pointed out a shared experience with those farmers in order to get
their votes. So what? What is your point? That a candidate for office
should attack voters for their various sins? That he implied he liked
tobacco when he knew it was evil? Yeah, he might have displayed that
hypocrisy.
A candidate being hypocritical to get support?
Now that';s a shock. Has there ever been a candidate who did not do
that?
I think the important issue here is whether the candidate is going to
kill people, or try to save their lives. Most Republicans are trying
to kill people (in that you intend the natural consequences of your
acts) and Gore is trying to save their lives.
I think that's a tad more important than your point about GOre once
being somewhat hypocritical before a group of voters.
>
>
>>>Gore can also claim that he became a Democrat because of how the
>>>"racist" Republicans voted on the 1964 Civil Rights Act, when the
>>>Democrats, including his father, opposed it and voted against it, and
>>>the Republicans voted for it?
>>
>>I recall a Republican back then running for President, and the sly
>>comment on his slogan was In your heart, you know he's white. My
>>memory is like that of Gore's. That the Republicans, running as law
>>and order as a code to say that they were against the blacks. Indeed,
>>they had a calculated effort to sell out blacks for political gain,
>>designed in large part by Kevin Phillips, and called the Southern
>>Strategy. It was devised while Gore was in college, and worked like a
>>charm, for a while.
>
>Ahem. What percentage of Congressional Republicans voted for the '64
>Act, compared to what percentage of Congressional Democrats? There
>may have been racist Republicans in Congress at the time, but there
>were a lot more racist Democrats.
Couldn't agree more. Those Democrats have since switched to the
Republican Party, in many cases. Why do you think they switched?
LBJ: this will cost us the SOuth for a generation.
George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr.
George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr.
dfal...@alumni.utexas.net.REMOVE.THIS.SPAM.FILTER (Damien Falgoust)
wrote:
>Actually, there's another Gore idiocy that few people mention.
>
>Gore claims to be a "born again Christian." Yet in December, he made
>the claim (like Hillary Clinton) that Joseph and Mary were "homeless."
>
>I'm sorry, but that's flatly false. Mary and Joseph left Nazareth
>(where they had a home) to go to Bethlehem for a census to pay their
>taxes. There was no room at the inns in town, so they stayed in the
>manger.
DId they have a home there that night?
No, they did not.
And there are no four dollar hotels with rooms vacant in Manhattan. So
they stay in the streets. Not homeless? Just a shortage of rooms?
>
>An inability to find a hotel room is NOT homelessness. As a "born
>again Christian," isn't it odd that Gore apparently doesn't have even
>a passing understanding of the Christmas story?
What is odd is that some conservatives want to avoid thinking about
Christ's support for the poor. THus it really bugs them to imply
Christ might have been poor. I think they support the seemingly
unchristian view that we should kick a man when he's down so he will
have no incentive to stay there. And Christ linked with the poor
doesn't comport with what they believe.
George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr.
Mary E Knadler
<trexNO...@idt.net.invalid> writes:
>
>I love the way Republicans now want to claim the Civil rights Act as
>their accomplishment. In fact, the current Republican leadership ran
>the moderates who had dared to vote for civil rights out of the party
>(You many remember the famous photo of Rockefeller giving them the
>finger from the podium of the Republican National Convention). They
>openly courted most of the racist Democrats, and got them in the fold
>too.
>
>
>
That was not about "civil rights". It was the struggle for the
nomination for President. Rockefeller wanted it badly but the
majority of the delegates wanted Barry Goldwater.
Goldwater was not a racist or a bigot!
Jerome Schroeder
> nomination for President. Rockefeller wanted it badly but the
> majority of the delegates wanted Barry Goldwater.
>
> Goldwater was not a racist or a bigot!
Nor was Nixon, Ford or Bush (father or son). The jury is still out on
Reagan. But, one layer down, the GOP is full of them.
Jerry