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The Axis of Weasel

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May 10, 2003, 10:56:31 AM5/10/03
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On Sat, 10 May 2003 03:27:57 -0500, "George of the Jungle"
<anti...@nospam.forme.edu> wrote:

>All the anti-Bush/Cheny ad hominem attacks are backfiring. The leftist
>smears about being AWOL, about "it's only about the oil", the claims of
>impropriety, the Bush daughter's brush with the law -- all of it has fallen
>flat. The "democratic underground", Hated.net, and all the rest of the
>net.liberals' message is turning the public against them.
>
>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,86357,00.html

Still trying to pretend that Faux News is anything more than an
elaborate White House Fax Machines?

Here's the latest poll from Newsweek, at pollingreport.com.

"In general, would you like to see George W. Bush reelected to another
term as president, or not?"

Yes
No
Don't
Know


%
%
%


5/1-2/03
51
38
11


4/10-11/03
52
38
10


11/02
49
42
9

Gosh, chuckles, it looks like your toy Mussolini only has a 13 point
lead.

That's not very good for a guy who just racked up "a glorious military
victory" Wagging the dog is supposed to give you at least a 65-30
margin.
>
>"Majority Thinks Bush Will Win Second Term
>
>With the next presidential election about 18 months away, many Americans
>today think President Bush will be re-elected to a second term and, in
>head-to-head matchups, Bush bests the top Democratic contenders.
>
>In the latest FOX News nationwide poll of registered voters, conducted by
>Opinion Dynamics Corporation May 6-7, a majority (61 percent) predicts Bush
>will be re-elected, while 20 percent think he will be a one-term president."
>
>[snip]
>
>Every day, every vicious anti-Bush attack by you morons pushes you further
>towards the fringes and more Americans see you as author Ann Coulter does.
>Her last line in her book "Slander" says this about liberals: Liberals are
>"savagely cruel bigots who hate ordinary Americans and lie for sport."
>
>At the rate you and your leaders (Pelose, Daschle, Kennedy, etc.) are going,
>you clowns are going to be out of power for decades to come.
>
>And that thought makes this conservative a very happy person.....

****************

"By my estimation, since the war started, the 24-hour
cable news networks, in conjuction with their military
analysts, have dropped more than 30 megatons of precision-
guided manure on the American people."
-- Aaron McGruder, "The Boondocks"

Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal.
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.

http://www.zeppscommentaries.com

Dana

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May 10, 2003, 11:25:14 AM5/10/03
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"The Axis of Weasel" <zeppn...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 10 May 2003 03:27:57 -0500, "George of the Jungle"
> <anti...@nospam.forme.edu> wrote:
>
> >All the anti-Bush/Cheny ad hominem attacks are backfiring. The leftist
> >smears about being AWOL, about "it's only about the oil", the claims of
> >impropriety, the Bush daughter's brush with the law -- all of it has
fallen
> >flat. The "democratic underground", Hated.net, and all the rest of the
> >net.liberals' message is turning the public against them.
> >
> >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,86357,00.html
>
> Still trying to pretend that Faux News is anything more than an
> elaborate White House Fax Machines?

Denial is the leftist's prized tactic.


The Axis of Weasel

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May 10, 2003, 1:20:27 PM5/10/03
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On Sat, 10 May 2003 07:25:14 -0800, "Dana" <your...@example.com>
wrote:

And yet, the UK is preparing to kick them out because of their
pro-republican bias. Imagine that.

RCMan

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May 10, 2003, 7:43:14 PM5/10/03
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The Axis of Weasel <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message news:<dl4qbvk3rmsg5gjtm...@4ax.com>...

> Gosh, chuckles, it looks like your toy Mussolini only has a 13 point
> lead.

Reagan took 49 states with less, TubbMeister.

Ready to "predict" the 2004 election yet?

The Axis of Weasel

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May 10, 2003, 8:35:07 PM5/10/03
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On 10 May 2003 16:43:14 -0700, rcma...@excite.com (RCMan) wrote:

>The Axis of Weasel <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message news:<dl4qbvk3rmsg5gjtm...@4ax.com>...
>
>> Gosh, chuckles, it looks like your toy Mussolini only has a 13 point
>> lead.
>
>Reagan took 49 states with less, TubbMeister.

You're toy Mussolini just won "a glorious military victory"

He only has a 13 point lead.

Better start arranging for Democratic plane crashes there, Cheap Soda
man.


>
>Ready to "predict" the 2004 election yet?

****************

citizen

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May 11, 2003, 10:58:57 AM5/11/03
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"Dana" <your...@example.com> wrote in message
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Or what's the opposite of right?

Wronge.

The leftist have nothing but the opposite of right. That's why they don't
want a tax cut because it would turn the economy around and thus the left
would be "left out in the cold" and nothing to run on Nov. 2004.

-------------
"If violent crime is to be curbed,
it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the
police, and he fears
neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his
victim." Jeff Cooper


God Bless America!


Stew-Libertarian

http://www.thinkingagain.com/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/ensey_in_2000/bor1.html
http://www.davehitt.com/dec00/green1.html
http://americanfreedomnews.com
http://www.libertystory.net/
http://www.sas-aim.org/
http://www.armedfemalesofamerica.com/


citizen

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May 11, 2003, 11:04:21 AM5/11/03
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"The Axis of Weasel" <zeppn...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 10 May 2003 07:25:14 -0800, "Dana" <your...@example.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"The Axis of Weasel" <zeppn...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message
> >news:dl4qbvk3rmsg5gjtm...@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 10 May 2003 03:27:57 -0500, "George of the Jungle"
> >> <anti...@nospam.forme.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> >All the anti-Bush/Cheny ad hominem attacks are backfiring. The
leftist
> >> >smears about being AWOL, about "it's only about the oil", the claims
of
> >> >impropriety, the Bush daughter's brush with the law -- all of it has
> >fallen
> >> >flat. The "democratic underground", Hated.net, and all the rest of
the
> >> >net.liberals' message is turning the public against them.
> >> >
> >> >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,86357,00.html
> >>
> >> Still trying to pretend that Faux News is anything more than an
> >> elaborate White House Fax Machines?
> >
> >Denial is the leftist's prized tactic.
>
> And yet, the UK is preparing to kick them out because of their
> pro-republican bias.

Wrong like usual.

Fox is undermining the censored British press.

The Axis of Weasel

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May 11, 2003, 11:11:25 AM5/11/03
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On Sun, 11 May 2003 11:04:21 -0400, "citizen" <stu...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Dream on, little toadie.
http://ads.guardian.co.uk/html.ng/Params.richmedia=yes&site=Guardian&section=103690&country=usa&rand=3407131&location=top

Oh, I know it isn't Rush Limbaugh approved, but suck it up. Reading
it won't turn you into a communust.


>
>-------------
> "If violent crime is to be curbed,
>it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the
>police, and he fears
>neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his
>victim." Jeff Cooper
>
>
>
>
>God Bless America!
>
>
>Stew-Libertarian
>
>http://www.thinkingagain.com/index.html
>http://www.geocities.com/ensey_in_2000/bor1.html
>http://www.davehitt.com/dec00/green1.html
>http://americanfreedomnews.com
>http://www.libertystory.net/
>http://www.sas-aim.org/
>http://www.armedfemalesofamerica.com/
>

****************

citizen

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May 11, 2003, 11:18:16 AM5/11/03
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"The Axis of Weasel" <zeppn...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message
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So you throw in a censored UK press release.

Does the UK have a first Amendment Rights?

RCMan

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May 11, 2003, 12:16:06 PM5/11/03
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The Axis of Weasel <zeppn...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message news:<bk6rbvg4l5ikbl7t5...@4ax.com>...

> On 10 May 2003 16:43:14 -0700, rcma...@excite.com (RCMan) wrote:
>
> >The Axis of Weasel <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message news:<dl4qbvk3rmsg5gjtm...@4ax.com>...
> >
> >> Gosh, chuckles, it looks like your toy Mussolini only has a 13 point
> >> lead.
> >
> >Reagan took 49 states with less, TubbMeister.
>
> You're toy Mussolini just won "a glorious military victory"

The President did what you wanted Clinton to do in '98. You should be
pleased.



> He only has a 13 point lead.

BWAHAHAHA!



> Better start arranging for Democratic plane crashes there, Cheap Soda
> man.

There's going to be a "Democratic crash", alright, but it's gonna be
at the ballot box if present trends continue.

Gonna be pulling for a Dean-McKinney ticket, Tubbster? Maybe you can
get the Iraqi Info Minister as the campaign media consultant. Can't
hurt, right?

> >
> >Ready to "predict" the 2004 election yet?

Your silence says you're not.

Figures.

The Axis of Weasel

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May 11, 2003, 1:41:21 PM5/11/03
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On Sun, 11 May 2003 11:18:16 -0400, "citizen" <stu...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Oh, I keep forgetting that cowardly right wingers lable ALL free media
as being "leftist" and "censored"

>
>Does the UK have a first Amendment Rights?

More so than American's do.


>
>-------------
> "If violent crime is to be curbed,
>it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the
>police, and he fears
>neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his
>victim." Jeff Cooper
>
>
>
>
>God Bless America!
>
>
>Stew-Libertarian
>
>http://www.thinkingagain.com/index.html
>http://www.geocities.com/ensey_in_2000/bor1.html
>http://www.davehitt.com/dec00/green1.html
>http://americanfreedomnews.com
>http://www.libertystory.net/
>http://www.sas-aim.org/
>http://www.armedfemalesofamerica.com/
>

****************

citizen

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May 11, 2003, 2:11:47 PM5/11/03
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"The Axis of Weasel" <zeppn...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message
news:eo2tbvo4s3o3v50g7...@4ax.com...

Cite please.


>
> >
> >Does the UK have a first Amendment Rights?
>
> More so than American's do.

Cite please.

And your link never worked. but that's up to par for you Zeppy.

The Axis of Weasel

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May 11, 2003, 2:36:34 PM5/11/03
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On 11 May 2003 09:16:06 -0700, rcma...@excite.com (RCMan) wrote:

>The Axis of Weasel <zeppn...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message news:<bk6rbvg4l5ikbl7t5...@4ax.com>...
>> On 10 May 2003 16:43:14 -0700, rcma...@excite.com (RCMan) wrote:
>>
>> >The Axis of Weasel <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message news:<dl4qbvk3rmsg5gjtm...@4ax.com>...
>> >
>> >> Gosh, chuckles, it looks like your toy Mussolini only has a 13 point
>> >> lead.
>> >
>> >Reagan took 49 states with less, TubbMeister.
>>
>> You're toy Mussolini just won "a glorious military victory"
>
>The President did what you wanted Clinton to do in '98. You should be
>pleased.

Poor little RC; can't debate coheranty, so he makes up stances on my
behalf and attacks those.

But your toy Mussolini's popularity is dropping like a rock. Have you
made up your minds which group of people you want to slaughter to the
AWOL cowardly piece of shit can play war hero again?


>
>> He only has a 13 point lead.
>
>BWAHAHAHA!
>
>> Better start arranging for Democratic plane crashes there, Cheap Soda
>> man.
>
>There's going to be a "Democratic crash", alright, but it's gonna be
>at the ballot box if present trends continue.
>
>Gonna be pulling for a Dean-McKinney ticket, Tubbster? Maybe you can
>get the Iraqi Info Minister as the campaign media consultant. Can't
>hurt, right?
>
>> >
>> >Ready to "predict" the 2004 election yet?
>
>Your silence says you're not.
>
>Figures.

****************

Ashland Henderson

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May 11, 2003, 4:09:55 PM5/11/03
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"citizen" <stu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<vbsp5t5...@corp.supernews.com>...

> "Dana" <your...@example.com> wrote in message
> news:vbq6bdf...@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "The Axis of Weasel" <zeppn...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message
> > news:dl4qbvk3rmsg5gjtm...@4ax.com...
> > > On Sat, 10 May 2003 03:27:57 -0500, "George of the Jungle"
> > > <anti...@nospam.forme.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > >All the anti-Bush/Cheny ad hominem attacks are backfiring. The leftist
> > > >smears about being AWOL, about "it's only about the oil", the claims of
> > > >impropriety, the Bush daughter's brush with the law -- all of it has
> fallen
> > > >flat. The "democratic underground", Hated.net, and all the rest of the
> > > >net.liberals' message is turning the public against them.
> > > >
> > > >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,86357,00.html
> > >
> > > Still trying to pretend that Faux News is anything more than an
> > > elaborate White House Fax Machines?
> >
> > Denial is the leftist's prized tactic.
>
> Or what's the opposite of right?
>
> Wronge

Go far enough right and you are a nazi. Go far enough left and you are
a communist. Both are wrong, bad, and generally evil. Go play word games
with children. It doesn't really cut the mustard here.

> The leftist have nothing but the opposite of right. That's why they don't
> want a tax cut because it would turn the economy around and thus the left
> would be "left out in the cold" and nothing to run on Nov. 2004.

Remarkably silly. Most all economists agree that the tax cut would not turn
the economy around. At the very best it might provide a bit of short term
bounce. Of course that's all the administration cares about as long as the
bounce is in time for the 2004 election and helps their buddies in the
corporate offices.

citizen

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May 11, 2003, 5:12:09 PM5/11/03
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"Ashland Henderson" <macea...@astound.net> wrote in message
news:441d41d1.03051...@posting.google.com...

Wrong once.

The Nazi's are dead jed.

The Nazi's were also National Socialist.

And if you go to far right that's a facist. Which is impossible becase
everyone is left of center in this country.

Go far enough left and you are
> a communist.

Wrong twice.The word is socialism.

>Both are wrong,

That's what I said.you were wrong twice.

>bad, and generally evil.

You have not seen evil in this country.


Go play word games
> with children.

Is that the best you can or are you over the hill?


> It doesn't really cut the mustard here.

Fact is most here can't even lick out the jar.


>
> > The leftist have nothing but the opposite of right. That's why they
don't
> > want a tax cut because it would turn the economy around and thus the
left
> > would be "left out in the cold" and nothing to run on Nov. 2004.
>

> Remarkably silly.Most all economists agree that the tax cut would not turn
> the economy around.


Are you one? So having less capital in circulation spurs commerce is that
what you are saying?


>At the very best it might provide a bit of short term

When I buy a machines and hire workers for a jobsite. The jobs lasts at
least three years for I have to make the equipment pay.

So three years in my way of thinking is not short term.

So having less capital in cerculation spurs commeres is that what you are
saying?

> bounce. Of course that's all the administration cares about as long as the
> bounce is in time for the 2004 election and helps their buddies in the
> corporate offices.

And there it is the old class warfare bit.

You do not know jack shit about what makes jobs. The more money I spend in
taxes the less I can use for purchasing processing material and
equipment.And that mean less jobsites. The less jobsites the less workers
and that does not even touch things like fuel parts tires and equip upkeep.

There is many a company in the same boat as I. If you want growth you have
to pay for it!

Those who carry a lunch bucket or work in their little cubical can not see
the forest for the trees.

And then we have socialists who lie about being liberals are the worst of
the lot.

RCMan

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May 11, 2003, 7:07:09 PM5/11/03
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The Axis of Weasel <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message news:<7v5tbvcaghg7vb8kl...@4ax.com>...

> On 11 May 2003 09:16:06 -0700, rcma...@excite.com (RCMan) wrote:
>
> >The Axis of Weasel <zeppn...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message news:<bk6rbvg4l5ikbl7t5...@4ax.com>...
> >> On 10 May 2003 16:43:14 -0700, rcma...@excite.com (RCMan) wrote:
> >>
> >> >The Axis of Weasel <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message news:<dl4qbvk3rmsg5gjtm...@4ax.com>...
> >> >
> >> >> Gosh, chuckles, it looks like your toy Mussolini only has a 13 point
> >> >> lead.
> >> >
> >> >Reagan took 49 states with less, TubbMeister.
> >>
> >> You're toy Mussolini just won "a glorious military victory"
> >
> >The President did what you wanted Clinton to do in '98. You should be
> >pleased.
>
> Poor little RC; can't debate coheranty, so he makes up stances on my
> behalf and attacks those.

Hmmm, would you like to see some quotes of yours from those years?
Gonna deny you were saber-rattling against Saddam, Tubby?



> But your toy Mussolini's popularity is dropping like a rock.

And yet you're still spitting, fuming and hate-mongering at warp-5
levels. He must be doing *something* right.

> Have you
> made up your minds which group of people you want to slaughter to the
> AWOL cowardly piece of shit can play war hero again?

On to Damascus, TubbMeister! Let's see the 4th ID wash their tanks in
the Med.

> >
> >> He only has a 13 point lead.
> >
> >BWAHAHAHA!
> >
> >> Better start arranging for Democratic plane crashes there, Cheap Soda
> >> man.
> >
> >There's going to be a "Democratic crash", alright, but it's gonna be
> >at the ballot box if present trends continue.
> >
> >Gonna be pulling for a Dean-McKinney ticket, Tubbster? Maybe you can
> >get the Iraqi Info Minister as the campaign media consultant. Can't
> >hurt, right?
> >
> >> >
> >> >Ready to "predict" the 2004 election yet?
> >
> >Your silence says you're not.
> >
> >Figures.

Still silent? It's just another reason to laugh at you, you know.

Sp...@beckie.com

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May 11, 2003, 9:13:21 PM5/11/03
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On 11 May 2003 16:07:09 -0700, rcma...@excite.com (RCMan) wrote:

>Hmmm, would you like to see some quotes of yours from those years?
>Gonna deny you were saber-rattling against Saddam, Tubby?

You stupid fuck, RCLOON

"rattling Sabers" against Saddam is okay.

But LYING about why we needed to attack the bastard is Worse
than Fibbing about sex, which makes your rat-fuck, coke-snorting Dumbya
a worse asshole than Ronne Raygun.

But then Spanking your dumb ass is pretty common, isn't it Loonboy?


>Still silent? It's just another reason to laugh at you, you know.

Silent?

You can't hear the laughter at your stupid ass, RCLOON.

Your ears are covered by the nearest available rightwing asscheeks.


---------------------------------------------------

On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:08:21 -0500, Christopher Morton
<chr...@ameritech.net> wrote:

>Sorry, I'm a pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action liberal.

No, MORTONLOON

All you are, or ever were, or ever WILL be is a
big, dumb, ass-kicked Gunwhoring chickenshit
usenet moron.

>Yes, and it pisses you off, you crossburning ignoramus.

veronica floss

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May 11, 2003, 9:28:52 PM5/11/03
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In article <3776526f.03051...@posting.google.com>,
rcma...@excite.com says...

Yes, I'll predict the outcome.

George Bush will "win," because he can control the Election at
the National level. He'll manipulate the computerized results in
maybe six to eight states, which will be enough to win.

In short; it won't be a fair election.

The Democratic Party will cooperate. Demos will nominate another
clueless stuffed shirt who thinks that if it's an American
election; then it must be honest. He will not contest his "loss."

Point, set, match.

Bush "wins," even though more voters will again vote for the
Democrat nominee.


V.

Ashland Henderson

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May 11, 2003, 10:12:13 PM5/11/03
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"citizen" <stu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<vbtf1ok...@corp.supernews.com>...

Your rewriting of history is not particularly interesting. The
name is not the thing in case you have any familiarity with semantics.

> And if you go to far right that's a facist. Which is impossible becase
> everyone is left of center in this country.

Your first statement is incorrect. Your second one is possible and a
good thing too.

> Go far enough left and you are
> > a communist.
>
> Wrong twice.The word is socialism.

Still wrong, I see.

> >Both are wrong,
>
> That's what I said.you were wrong twice.

No, I was right and you have a bug about the left. Your
problem, however, not mine.

> >bad, and generally evil.
>
> You have not seen evil in this country.

Yes. I have.

> Go play word games
> > with children.
>
> Is that the best you can or are you over the hill?

It is the best that you deserve.

> > It doesn't really cut the mustard here.
>
> Fact is most here can't even lick out the jar.

You are projecting.

> > > The leftist have nothing but the opposite of right. That's why they
> don't
> > > want a tax cut because it would turn the economy around and thus the
> left
> > > would be "left out in the cold" and nothing to run on Nov. 2004.
> >
> > Remarkably silly.Most all economists agree that the tax cut would not turn
> > the economy around.
>
> Are you one? So having less capital in circulation spurs commerce is that
> what you are saying?

Silly boy, you are interpeting what I'm saying. It's very simple. Most
everyone who knows anything about the concept appears to disagree with
you.

> >At the very best it might provide a bit of short term
>
> When I buy a machines and hire workers for a jobsite. The jobs lasts at
> least three years for I have to make the equipment pay.
>
> So three years in my way of thinking is not short term.
>
> So having less capital in cerculation spurs commeres is that what you are
> saying?

Your story is amusing but has little or no bearing on real life.

> > bounce. Of course that's all the administration cares about as long as the
> > bounce is in time for the 2004 election and helps their buddies in the
> > corporate offices.
>
> And there it is the old class warfare bit.

I didn't start it. But I'm happy to continue it.

> You do not know jack shit about what makes jobs. The more money I spend in
> taxes the less I can use for purchasing processing material and
> equipment.And that mean less jobsites. The less jobsites the less workers
> and that does not even touch things like fuel parts tires and equip upkeep.

Such innocence is touching. Unfortunately it has nothing much to do with
a tax cut.

> There is many a company in the same boat as I. If you want growth you have
> to pay for it!
>
> Those who carry a lunch bucket or work in their little cubical can not see
> the forest for the trees.

Those who pretend to vast knowledge while spouting generalities and telling
anecdotal stories are even worse.

> And then we have socialists who lie about being liberals are the worst of
> the lot.

How silly.

Stan de SD

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"veronica floss" <vero...@hygene.net> wrote in message
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> In article <3776526f.03051...@posting.google.com>,
> rcma...@excite.com says...
>
> > The Axis of Weasel <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message
news:<dl4qbvk3rmsg5gjtm...@4ax.com>...
> >
> > > Gosh, chuckles, it looks like your toy Mussolini only has a 13 point
> > > lead.
> >
> > Reagan took 49 states with less, TubbMeister.
> >
> > Ready to "predict" the 2004 election yet?
> >
>
> Yes, I'll predict the outcome.
>
> George Bush will "win," because he can control the Election at
> the National level. He'll manipulate the computerized results in
> maybe six to eight states, which will be enough to win.

Making accusations is easy when you don't have to back them up with
evidence. Right, Veronica? :O|


Dave Simpson

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[V]eronica [F]loss wrote:

> Bush "wins," even though more voters will again vote for the
> Democrat nominee.

2000 proved a Democrat outrage, trying to steal what they lost,
despite your no-good counter-claims illustrating once more that P.T.
Barnum was correct.

If the Democrats continue to self-destruct and take a wacky-left
path, they will lose, though. The anti-war Presidential candidates
come across as nut-case lightweights and nearly as traitors, for
example. Good luck; so far your beloved Democrats are going to need
it. All the Democratic vote fraud in old central cities won't be
enough to save them if they continue to engage in stupid
self-destruction. (Who knows, perhaps it is as I am beginning to
wonder, that this is intentional so as to hope for worse things under
a re-elected Bush and the GOP before 2006, then 2008.)


Dave Simpson

Rico

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It's the economy stupid

klystron

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May 14, 2003, 7:25:43 AM5/14/03
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In article <23e7f86e.03051...@posting.google.com>,
david_l...@yahoo.com says...


> [V]eronica [F]loss wrote:
>
> > Bush "wins," even though more voters will again vote for the
> > Democrat nominee.
>
> 2000 proved a Democrat outrage, trying to steal what they lost,
> despite your no-good counter-claims illustrating once more that P.T.
> Barnum was correct.

Krap nonsense like this only works on Fox talkshows where people
can't reply to it.

Out here in the real world, Gore still won the 2000 election by
700,000 votes. We have a valid complaint.

Steal, indeed.

Yet Bush is President.

And all you can do to you defend your man Bush is to vilify
Democrats, even before they nominate anybody. Even *you* are
embarrassed by the way the 2000 election played out.


> If the Democrats continue to self-destruct and take a wacky-left
> path, they will lose, though. The anti-war Presidential candidates
> come across as nut-case lightweights and nearly as traitors, for
> example. Good luck; so far your beloved Democrats are going to need
> it. All the Democratic vote fraud in old central cities won't be
> enough to save them if they continue to engage in stupid
> self-destruction. (Who knows, perhaps it is as I am beginning to
> wonder, that this is intentional so as to hope for worse things under
> a re-elected Bush and the GOP before 2006, then 2008.)

Vote fraud, indeed. NO ONE has claimed any "vote fraud" in any
"City" in the country, except Miami. You have no case.

On the other hand; Bush certainly WILL win the 2004 Election. He
has already fixed it.

Demos will lose because they are still pretending that it is an
Election that they have a fair chance to win or lose on their
merits.


kly

citizen

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"Ashland Henderson" <macea...@astound.net> wrote in message
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> "citizen" <stu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<vbtf1ok...@corp.supernews.com>...
> > "Ashland Henderson" <macea...@astound.net> wrote in message
> > news:441d41d1.03051...@posting.google.com...
> > > "citizen" <stu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:<vbsp5t5...@corp.supernews.com>...
> > > > "Dana" <your...@example.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:vbq6bdf...@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > "The Axis of Weasel" <zeppn...@finestplanet.com> wrote in
message
> > > > > news:dl4qbvk3rmsg5gjtm...@4ax.com...
> > > > > > On Sat, 10 May 2003 03:27:57 -0500, "George of the Jungle"
> > > > > > <anti...@nospam.forme.edu> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >All the anti-Bush/Cheney ad hominid attacks are backfiring.

The
> > leftist
> > > > > > >smears about being AWOL, about "it's only about the oil", the
> > claims of
> > > > > > >impropriety, the Bush daughter's brush with the law -- all of
it
> > has
> > fallen
> > > > > > >flat. The "democratic underground", Hated.net, and all the
rest of
> > the
> > > > > > >net.liberals' message is turning the public against them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,86357,00.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Still trying to pretend that Faux News is anything more than an
> > > > > > elaborate White House Fax Machines?
> > > > >
> > > > > Denial is the leftist's prized tactic.
> > > >
> > > > Or what's the opposite of right?
> > > >
> > > > Wronged

> > >
> > > Go far enough right and you are a nazi.
> >
> > Wrong once.
> >
> > The Nazi's are dead jed.
> >
> > The Nazi's were also National Socialist.
>
> Your rewriting of history is not particularly interesting.

History reflects that the nazi's called themselves national socialists and
anyone who disagreed with what they said was killed.
Now that they are gone there's those like you who have the guts to call them
liars.

The
> name is not the thing in case you have any familiarity with semantics.

Oh you mean like those of the left referring to themselves as liberals when
they are actually socialists?

>
> > And if you go to far right that's a fascist. Which is impossible because


> > everyone is left of center in this country.
>
> Your first statement is incorrect. Your second one is possible and a
> good thing too.
>
> > Go far enough left and you are
> > > a communist.
> >
> > Wrong twice.The word is socialism.
>
> Still wrong, I see.

No I am right. We are talking of this country not some eastern power that
evolved from a fanatic monarchy. The movement to the left in this country is
to social democracy.

The SD want a living constitution. In other word they want the constitution
DEAD.

>
> > >Both are wrong,
> >
> > That's what I said.you were wrong twice.
>
> No, I was right and you have a bug about the left.

Correction I have a thing about individual rights


Your
> problem, however, not mine.

My insight your self imposed blinders.


>
> > >bad, and generally evil.
> >
> > You have not seen evil in this country.
>
> Yes. I have.
>
> > Go play word games
> > > with children.
> >
> > Is that the best you can or are you over the hill?
>
> It is the best that you deserve.
>
> > > It doesn't really cut the mustard here.
> >
> > Fact is most here can't even lick out the jar.
>
> You are projecting.
>
> > > > The leftist have nothing but the opposite of right. That's why they
> > don't
> > > > want a tax cut because it would turn the economy around and thus the
> > left
> > > > would be "left out in the cold" and nothing to run on Nov. 2004.
> > >
> > > Remarkably silly.Most all economists agree that the tax cut would not
turn
> > > the economy around.
> >
> > Are you one? So having less capital in circulation spurs commerce is
that
> > what you are saying?
>

> Silly boy, you are interpreting what I'm saying. It's very simple. Most


> everyone who knows anything about the concept appears to disagree with
> you.

As I asked before little one. "Are you one" ? One of them "those"?

And what business do you own or operate?


>
> > >At the very best it might provide a bit of short term
> >
> > When I buy a machines and hire workers for a jobsite. The jobs lasts at
> > least three years for I have to make the equipment pay.
> >
> > So three years in my way of thinking is not short term.
> >

> > So having less capital in circulation spurs commerce is that what you
are
> > saying?
>

> Your story is amusing but has little or no bearing on real life.

Explain your apparent limited knowledge on the subject?

And why the Gov. having my money helps me in having more revenue on hand?


>
> > > bounce. Of course that's all the administration cares about as long as
the
> > > bounce is in time for the 2004 election and helps their buddies in the
> > > corporate offices.
> >
> > And there it is the old class warfare bit.
>
> I didn't start it. But I'm happy to continue it.

So you are a ward of the state and dislike any-one who works for a living
and financially succeeds?


>
> > You do not know jack shit about what makes jobs. The more money I spend
in
> > taxes the less I can use for purchasing processing material and
> > equipment.And that mean less jobsites. The less jobsites the less
workers
> > and that does not even touch things like fuel parts tires and equip
upkeep.
>
> Such innocence is touching.

Such ignorance is apparent.


Unfortunately it has nothing much to do with
> a tax cut.

Then what business that you run succeeds with less revenue?


>
> > There is many a company in the same boat as I. If you want growth you
have
> > to pay for it!
> >
> > Those who carry a lunch bucket or work in their little cubical can not
see
> > the forest for the trees.
>
> Those who pretend to vast knowledge while spouting generalities and
telling
> anecdotal stories are even worse.

For some-one who only guesses at what is real. What vast knowledge of the
real world of business do you possess?

I will answer for you-None

And what business do you own?-None


>
> > And then we have socialists who lie about being liberals are the worst
of
> > the lot.
>
> How silly.

What you have expressed here is just that. Can you do any better next time?

Rene

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"klystron" <k...@varian.org> wrote in message
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> Yet Bush is President.


Exactly. Furthermore, the Democrats also lost control of the House and the
Senate. In fact, the Democrats haven't been able to win control of the
House since 1992, which is over a decade ago. We should also point out that
the House is the ONLY branch of the federal government which is apportioned
on the basis of the Popular Vote. Apparently the Democrat Party is pretty
unpopular, and has been for over a decade now.


PS The Democrat Party is becoming even MORE unpopular.


Ashland Henderson

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"citizen" <stu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<vc4n0lo...@corp.supernews.com>...

History also reflects that the nazi's were pure right wing. The socialist
name was added early on to draw some popular support. The socialists were
among the first to be liquidated.

> > The
> > name is not the thing in case you have any familiarity with semantics.
>
> Oh you mean like those of the left referring to themselves as liberals when
> they are actually socialists?

Your belief that they are socialists does not necessarily represent reality.

> > > And if you go to far right that's a fascist. Which is impossible because
> > > everyone is left of center in this country.
> >
> > Your first statement is incorrect. Your second one is possible and a
> > good thing too.
> >
> > > Go far enough left and you are
> > > > a communist.
> > >
> > > Wrong twice.The word is socialism.
> >
> > Still wrong, I see.
>
> No I am right. We are talking of this country not some eastern power that
> evolved from a fanatic monarchy. The movement to the left in this country is
> to social democracy.

It's a theory. It isn't necessarily fact.

> The SD want a living constitution. In other word they want the constitution
> DEAD.

Shouting on-line does not make you right. In other words, you are wrong
when you say "In other word".

> > > >Both are wrong,
> > >
> > > That's what I said.you were wrong twice.
> >
> > No, I was right and you have a bug about the left.
>
> Correction I have a thing about individual rights

Me too. But it isn't apparently the same thing.

> > Your problem, however, not mine.
>
> My insight your self imposed blinders.

Funny, that's what I would have said.

Am I an economist? No. Do I own a business? I am a partner in two different
ones. Neither, however, are manufacturing or desire to expand.

> And what business do you own or operate?

Private information not to be divulged over the net.

> > > >At the very best it might provide a bit of short term
> > >
> > > When I buy a machines and hire workers for a jobsite. The jobs lasts at
> > > least three years for I have to make the equipment pay.
> > >
> > > So three years in my way of thinking is not short term.
> > >
> > > So having less capital in circulation spurs commerce is that what you
> are
> > > saying?
> >
> > Your story is amusing but has little or no bearing on real life.
>
> Explain your apparent limited knowledge on the subject?

You are talking from a pretty limited perspective as if you are operating
in a vacuum. Having more money in businesses can do some things for the
economy. It can also simply make more money for those who own the business.
Our problem isn't production, we have plenty of production. Our problem
currently is that we don't have people with money to buy the production.
The suggested tax cuts do not provide much towards that. The 1.5 trillion
cut didn't do much to stimulate the economy either.

> And why the Gov. having my money helps me in having more revenue on hand?

It doesn't. But then you having more revenue on hand does not necessarily
help the government either.

> > > > bounce. Of course that's all the administration cares about as long as
> the
> > > > bounce is in time for the 2004 election and helps their buddies in the
> > > > corporate offices.
> > >
> > > And there it is the old class warfare bit.
> >
> > I didn't start it. But I'm happy to continue it.
>
> So you are a ward of the state and dislike any-one who works for a living
> and financially succeeds?

Nope. Worked for a living and made good money at it all my life. But I can
see the politics of the situation.

> > > You do not know jack shit about what makes jobs. The more money I spend
> in
> > > taxes the less I can use for purchasing processing material and
> > > equipment.And that mean less jobsites. The less jobsites the less
> workers
> > > and that does not even touch things like fuel parts tires and equip
> upkeep.
> >
> > Such innocence is touching.
>
> Such ignorance is apparent.

It's true. Try broadening your horizons.

> Unfortunately it has nothing much to do with
> > a tax cut.
>
> Then what business that you run succeeds with less revenue?

As said, the issue is not purely revenue.

> > > There is many a company in the same boat as I. If you want growth you
> have
> > > to pay for it!
> > >
> > > Those who carry a lunch bucket or work in their little cubical can not
> see
> > > the forest for the trees.
> >
> > Those who pretend to vast knowledge while spouting generalities and
> telling
> > anecdotal stories are even worse.
>
> For some-one who only guesses at what is real. What vast knowledge of the
> real world of business do you possess?
>
> I will answer for you-None
>
> And what business do you own?-None

Sorry, but your pronouncements about what is good and bad for the economy,
not to mention about liberals, do not have the force of law or even,
necessarily, common sense.

> > > And then we have socialists who lie about being liberals are the worst
> of
> > > the lot.
> >
> > How silly.
>
> What you have expressed here is just that. Can you do any better next time?

I did. You just don't understand it.

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