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Unfrozen Caveman Politician Gore

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Apr 26, 2002, 2:24:17 PM4/26/02
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Left-Wing Censors Go After Michael Savage
Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com
Friday, April 26, 2002
They don't approve of free speech in Portland, Ore., if the rantings of a
peculiar coalition demanding the silencing of widely acclaimed talk show
host Michael Savage are any indication of that city's view of the First
Amendment.
A weird group of Portland organizations calling itself Coalition Against
Hate Radio is trying to force KXL radio to dump the nationally known and
admired conservative talk show host, heard on 350 radio stations across the
nation.

"The content is an unbroken stream of hate and chauvinism directed against
women, people of color, liberals, immigrants and in particular people of
Middle Eastern heritage and people of the Muslim faith," ranted one Tom
Nelson, spokesman for so-called Coalition Against Hate Radio, in a tirade
showing his disdain for Savage's right to speak his mind as guaranteed by
the First Amendment.

"We condemn this message of hate ..."

more - http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/4/25/190255.shtml


--
CB
"He who is void of virtuous attachments in private life is, or very soon
will be, void of all regard for his country."
--Samuel Adams


TwoHead

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Apr 26, 2002, 4:19:17 PM4/26/02
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Unfrozen Caveman Politician Gore wrote:
>
> Left-Wing Censors Go After Michael Savage
> Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com
> Friday, April 26, 2002
> They don't approve of free speech in Portland, Ore., if the rantings of a
> peculiar coalition demanding the silencing of widely acclaimed talk show
> host Michael Savage are any indication of that city's view of the First
> Amendment.
> A weird group of Portland organizations calling itself Coalition Against
> Hate Radio is trying to force KXL radio to dump the nationally known and
> admired conservative talk show host, heard on 350 radio stations across the
> nation.
>
> "The content is an unbroken stream of hate and chauvinism directed against
> women, people of color, liberals, immigrants and in particular people of
> Middle Eastern heritage and people of the Muslim faith," ranted one Tom
> Nelson, spokesman for so-called Coalition Against Hate Radio, in a tirade
> showing his disdain for Savage's right to speak his mind as guaranteed by
> the First Amendment.
>

Funny, I don't recall you posting in support of Bill Maher and his
right to make comments regarding the courage of suicide terrorists.
This support of free speech you claim in your post, is it situational?
You support the freedom of those whose opinions you agree with but are
you equally supportive of those who disagree with you? When you can
answer that last question yes you can return to your moral outrage.

th

Unfrozen Caveman Politician Gore

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Apr 26, 2002, 4:28:28 PM4/26/02
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"TwoHead" <t...@2omar2world2.com> wrote in message
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If you can't tell the difference patriotism vs. anti-American speech, I'd be
wasting by breath.


The Frog

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Apr 26, 2002, 4:27:28 PM4/26/02
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"Unfrozen Caveman Politician Gore" <UnfrozenCave...@AlphaBore.com>
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> Left-Wing Censors Go After Michael Savage
> Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com
> Friday, April 26, 2002
> They don't approve of free speech in Portland, Ore., if the rantings of a
> peculiar coalition demanding the silencing of widely acclaimed talk show
> host Michael Savage are any indication of that city's view of the First
> Amendment.
> A weird group of Portland organizations calling itself Coalition Against
> Hate Radio is trying to force KXL radio to dump the nationally known and
> admired conservative talk show host, heard on 350 radio stations across
the
> nation.

It's an attempt to silence the opposition. Ya' know, even the Communists,
Nazi's and xofpi, and Galdolf Grey have a right to free speech......why
should this guy not?

Frog


Unfrozen Caveman Politician Gore

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Apr 26, 2002, 4:33:43 PM4/26/02
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"The Frog" <jm...@ticnet.com> wrote in message
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For sure. I rather enjoy kicking Rosells' ass...metaphorically


The Frog

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Apr 26, 2002, 4:51:32 PM4/26/02
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"TwoHead" <t...@2omar2world2.com> wrote in message
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Mr. Maher can have free speech as well. Now if his sponsors feel that his
free speech is consting them money, then they also have freedom to unplug
the money machine.....
Frog


Unfrozen Caveman Politician Gore

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Apr 26, 2002, 5:01:55 PM4/26/02
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"The Frog" <jm...@ticnet.com> wrote in message
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Let the market decide


bob

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Apr 26, 2002, 5:11:46 PM4/26/02
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TwoHead wrote:

> Funny, I don't recall you posting in support of Bill Maher and his
> right to make comments regarding the courage of suicide terrorists.

I don't recall many, if any, questioning Maher's right to make asinine comments.
What pissed you lefties off, and apparently confused the hell out of you, was
that anyone had the nerve to point out that Maher is in fact an asshole.


Bob

Harry Cox

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Apr 26, 2002, 5:18:46 PM4/26/02
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On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:24:17 -0400, "Unfrozen Caveman Politician Gore"
<UnfrozenCave...@AlphaBore.com> wrote:

>Left-Wing Censors Go After Michael Savage
> Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com
> Friday, April 26, 2002
>They don't approve of free speech in Portland, Ore., if the rantings of a
>peculiar coalition demanding the silencing of widely acclaimed talk show
>host Michael Savage are any indication of that city's view of the First
>Amendment.
>A weird group of Portland organizations calling itself Coalition Against
>Hate Radio is trying to force KXL radio to dump the nationally known and
>admired conservative talk show host, heard on 350 radio stations across the
>nation.
>
>"The content is an unbroken stream of hate and chauvinism directed against
>women, people of color, liberals, immigrants and in particular people of
>Middle Eastern heritage and people of the Muslim faith," ranted one Tom
>Nelson, spokesman for so-called Coalition Against Hate Radio, in a tirade
>showing his disdain for Savage's right to speak his mind as guaranteed by
>the First Amendment.

Actually, the first amendment deals with governement censorship of
free speech. Nobody has a constitutional right to a radio show for
their speech. I don't have a problem with protesters pressuring a
radio station to remove a host. We conservatives do it all the time
with boycotts of advertisers for certain broadcasting companies.
Remember the boycott of disney products from a conservative group a
few years back. The protesters have a right to pressure the radio
station. I suspect Mike Savage gets huge ratings so the station will
probably tell the protesters to go fuck themselves, which is their
right. Since these are open minded, peaceful leftist protesters, they
will probably burn the station down if their demands are not met, but
at that point they become terrorists and will be arrested.

The Frog

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Apr 26, 2002, 5:21:11 PM4/26/02
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"bob" <alli...@pobox.upenn.edu> wrote in message
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That's tru. No one was organizing to try to suppress Mr. Maher. That is the
tactic of those who only want free speech as long as they agree with the
speaker.....
Frog


Thumper

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Apr 26, 2002, 5:15:07 PM4/26/02
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I personally don't care who's on the radio but if listeners of a
station make it known to management that they don't want a particular
person on the air that is not censorship. The management of the
station is under no order to take him off. iIt is up to them. I
called my local station expressing my wish to have them stop covering
baseball. Is that censorship?
Thumper

Bloom,Leopold

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Apr 26, 2002, 5:58:56 PM4/26/02
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>
> "The content is an unbroken stream of hate and chauvinism directed against
> women, people of color, liberals, immigrants and in particular people of
> Middle Eastern heritage and people of the Muslim faith," ranted one Tom
> Nelson, spokesman for so-called Coalition Against Hate Radio, in a tirade
> showing his disdain for Savage's right to speak his mind as guaranteed by
> the First Amendment.

Well, that's a fair assessment of Mr. Savage and his performance.
Although I believe his real name is Weiss.

Having said that, Mr. Nelson is in no way attempting to abridge Mr.
Weiss's freedom of speech. Just his priviledge to broadcast it on a
commercial radio station. Ultimately, the radio station has to decide
whether it wants a Nazi on the radio, or the profits from having a
Nazi on the radio. Assuming there are profits, of course. Most of
his advertisers are public service announcements, I notice, indicating
folks don't want to advertise on his show.

You should read the 1st Ammendment to see what it says. Making it up
as you go along may be OK at newsmax.com, but not with me.....

TwoHead

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Apr 26, 2002, 6:13:59 PM4/26/02
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Do these words look familiar?

"There are reminders to all Americans that they need to watch what they
say, watch what they do, and it's not a time for remarks like that;
there never is."

You do know that this was said that in response to Maher's commentary
right? You do know who said it right? Personally I can think of few
things more chilling to free speech than a warning from your federal
government to "...watch what (you) say".

As someone who was watching the night he made those remarks I for one
considered his words to be highly patriotic. He was asking for folks to
stop and think in order to better understand what was going on in the
world, in order to better deal with it, something both the leaders and
the followers in this country should try doing more of. Considering
that, the response from Ari is understandable though, the last thing
they need is someone telling people to think.

th

Naom Chumpski

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Apr 26, 2002, 9:40:29 PM4/26/02
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"TwoHead" <t...@2omar2world2.com> wrote in message
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An awful lot of conservatives DID come down on Maher's side, myself among
them. As far as I'm concerned, the trashing of Maher was just another facet
of the new politics, introduced to us by Bill Clinton and his two trained
attack dogs, James Carville and Paul Begala.
>
> th


Unfrozen Caveman Politician Gore

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"Naom Chumpski" <@Disneyland> wrote in message
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Where in the world is Sidney Blementhaw? The last I heard he was on the run
as a federal fugitive.


B.B.

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Apr 26, 2002, 9:34:41 PM4/26/02
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In article <aac5ru$ksn$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>,
"Unfrozen Caveman Politician Gore"
<UnfrozenCave...@AlphaBore.com> wrote:

@Left-Wing Censors Go After Michael Savage
@ Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com
@ Friday, April 26, 2002
@They don't approve of free speech in Portland, Ore., if the rantings of a
@peculiar coalition demanding the silencing of widely acclaimed talk show
@host Michael Savage are any indication of that city's view of the First
@Amendment.
@A weird group of Portland organizations calling itself Coalition Against
@Hate Radio is trying to force KXL radio to dump the nationally known and
@admired conservative talk show host, heard on 350 radio stations across the
@nation.
@
@"The content is an unbroken stream of hate and chauvinism directed against
@women, people of color, liberals, immigrants and in particular people of
@Middle Eastern heritage and people of the Muslim faith," ranted one Tom
@Nelson, spokesman for so-called Coalition Against Hate Radio, in a tirade
@showing his disdain for Savage's right to speak his mind as guaranteed by
@the First Amendment.
@
@"We condemn this message of hate ..."
@
@more - http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/4/25/190255.shtml

Freedon of speech applies to everybody. Michael has the freedom to
say what he wants, and the CAHR has the freedom to say they don't like
it. Cope.

--
B.B. --I am not a goat! thegoat4 @mac.com @airmail.net

Naom Chumpski

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Apr 27, 2002, 12:58:53 AM4/27/02
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"The Frog" <jm...@ticnet.com> wrote in message
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There were some conservative idiots (unfortunately, we are afflicted too)
that tried to make political hay of Maher's statement, but for the most
part, nobody questioned his right to say it. Too bad his advertisers did.
>


George Johnson

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"Naom Chumpski" <@Disneyland> wrote in message
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|
| "TwoHead" <t...@2omar2world2.com> wrote in message
| news:3CC9B203...@2omar2world2.com...
| > Unfrozen Caveman Politician Gore wrote:

[ clipped ]

| > Funny, I don't recall you posting in support of Bill Maher and his
| > right to make comments regarding the courage of suicide terrorists.
| > This support of free speech you claim in your post, is it situational?
| > You support the freedom of those whose opinions you agree with but are
| > you equally supportive of those who disagree with you? When you can
| > answer that last question yes you can return to your moral outrage.
|
| An awful lot of conservatives DID come down on Maher's side, myself among
| them. As far as I'm concerned, the trashing of Maher was just another
facet
| of the new politics, introduced to us by Bill Clinton and his two trained
| attack dogs, James Carville and Paul Begala.
| >
| > th

NEW POLITICS?!?

You stupid whore!
This is classic NeoConservative method.

The Fund-a-Mentalcases have been doing it since Joseph McCarthy & Father
Cougan.

Trying to deflect it to some CURRENT liberals that won't roll over is
not only WEAK AND STUPID. It is damn sad on its own face. You're a whore
because you're a whore.

You lie in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

What a stupid worthless whore you are.

America became really aware of just how bad the Republicans were at
bold-faced lying when they learned of Nixon's "Enemies List" and the
Republican Propaganda Machine. They have however been doing this bad lying
since George H.W. Bush's daddy Prescott was funding and suppling the Hitler
empire. Sure they're a bit better with the soft lie since they employed
Himmler, but anyone with a brain sees right through it.

Go peddle your shit-eating lies elsewhere WHORE.


George Johnson

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Apr 27, 2002, 9:51:51 PM4/27/02
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"Unfrozen Caveman Politician Gore" <UnfrozenCave...@AlphaBore.com>
wrote in message news:aac5ru$ksn$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com...

| Left-Wing Censors Go After Michael Savage
| Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com
| Friday, April 26, 2002
| They don't approve of free speech in Portland, Ore., if the rantings of a
| peculiar coalition demanding the silencing of widely acclaimed talk show
| host Michael Savage are any indication of that city's view of the First
| Amendment.
| A weird group of Portland organizations calling itself Coalition Against
| Hate Radio is trying to force KXL radio to dump the nationally known and
| admired conservative talk show host, heard on 350 radio stations across
the
| nation.
|
| "The content is an unbroken stream of hate and chauvinism directed against
| women, people of color, liberals, immigrants and in particular people of
| Middle Eastern heritage and people of the Muslim faith," ranted one Tom
| Nelson, spokesman for so-called Coalition Against Hate Radio, in a tirade
| showing his disdain for Savage's right to speak his mind as guaranteed by
| the First Amendment.
|
| "We condemn this message of hate ..."
|
| more - http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/4/25/190255.shtml

Golly Ollie North, how can America hate a man like this?

http://www.newsmax.com/pundits/Savage.shtml
(Just linking to a crap fraud "news" website show you can see who they fawn
over. Chris Ruddy - the dumb whore - loves Klansmen who go unhooded.)

And now some substance.
http://www.sfbg.com/News/34/51/51dissb.html
Savage family values

DARTANYAN BROWN, director of instructional technology at the Branson School
in Marin, used to make a practice of monitoring hate radio. But nothing
prepared Brown for what he heard driving home from school while listening to
KSFO-AM's Michael Savage one day last September.

Savage was discussing his proposal to round up and incarcerate the Bay
Area's homeless when he made reference to a program at Branson through which
students volunteer to distribute sandwiches to the homeless in San
Francisco.

"You can get the kids from Marin to go in there with them at night," Savage
said during the Sept. 21 broadcast. "The girls from Branson can go in and
maybe get raped ... because they seem to like the excitement of it. There's
always the thrill and possibility they'll be raped in a Dumpster while
giving out a turkey sandwich."

Branson was furious and demanded an apology. KSFO general manager Michael
Luckoff, who oversees all of Disney's S.F. radio stations, told us he didn't
care for the way Savage expressed his opinion, but he defended the comment:
"[Savage] had reason to believe this was a dangerous situation to put young
people into and didn't think it was a wise idea, and that was the premise
for his comments," Luckoff told us. But this was no slip of the tongue.
During another show, according to an item in the San Jose Mercury News,
Savage referred to the Branson girls as "fresh white nookie."

Luckoff apologized to the school, but Savage himself has yet to apologize,
and he declined to be interviewed for this story.

Here are some more quotes from the guy who claims to have coined the phrase
"compassionate conservative." Except where noted, they were taken directly
from radio broadcasts during the period of Sept. 6 through Sept. 15.

On women "I'm beginning to think that women should be denied the vote. Their
hormones rage; they are too emotional." (as quoted in San Jose Mercury News,
Nov. 6, 1998)

On whites no longer being the majority in California "Now the liberals are
celebrating, of course. They will soon find out they will be shoved aside so
that the power can be taken by the Asians and the Hispanics."

On how this happened "With the population that has emerged, since they
[Hispanics] breed like rabbits, in many cases the whites will become a
minority in their own nation.... the white people don't breed as often for
whatever reason. I guess many homosexuals are involved. That is also part of
the grand plan, to push homosexuality to cut down on the white race."

On who's taking over "The nation is being taken over by the freaks, the
cripples, the perverts, and the mental defectives."

On Bobby Knight and Wen Ho Lee "[Coaching is] the last bastion of the white
heterosexual male ... and we need men like Bobby Knight that made America
great. If we had a Bobby Knight in the Justice Department, we would know
where the hard drives are, and instead of Wen Ho Lee going 'ho ho ho,' Wen
Ho Lee would be going sizzle, sizzle, sizzle."

On gay parenting "Fat lesbians are anti-family." (S.F. Examiner, Jan. 8,
1996)

On gays "Gays bore the hell out of me. They're the least important members
of our society."

On the gay-rights movement "I'm not going to roll over to the pink swastika;
I will not bow down to the pink swastika."

For Brown's account of the Savage-Branson School incident, visit
www.dartanyan.com/Artopinion/KSFO.html.

Daniel Zoll

Naom Chumpski

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You're a little too stupid to be posting this bullshit. On second thought,
I guess you're not. What does Nixon's enemies list or Bushes forebearers
have to do with socialist shills such as Begala and Carville looking America
in the eye and blatantly lying on TV? Or Gerald Nadler? Or Henry Waxman? Or
Tom Daschle? Or Bill Clinton, for that matter? Could it be that the truth
does not support their true agenda?
>
>


traveler

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bob <alli...@pobox.upenn.edu> wrote in message news:<3CC9C292...@pobox.upenn.edu>...

Maher is a self-proclaimed "conservative," what one might refer to as
a Hollywood conservative. The liberal mindset sees anyone to the
right of Maher, who is in fact well to the left of center, as a
"rightwing extremist." That Maher is an asshole frequently and often
is apparent to anyone who has seen his show, "Politically Correct."
He usually features one mildly conservative "target" and three
limousine liberals. Since Maher considers himself "conservative," he
therefore considers this a balanced panel. The level of the
discussion is about the same as what goes on usenet (drivel).

p@u.c

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Apr 28, 2002, 2:31:50 PM4/28/02
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In article <aacd4o$nce$1...@suaar1ab.prod.compuserve.com>,


In other words, CB supports free speech for those with whom he
agrees, but not for those with whom he disagrees.


--
Patrick Crotty e-mail: prcrotty @ midway.uchicago.edu
"To exchange one orthodoxy for another is not necessarily an advance.
The enemy is the gramophone mind, whether or not one agrees with the
record that is being played at the moment." -- George Orwell

Unfrozen Caveman Politician Gore

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Apr 28, 2002, 7:30:46 PM4/28/02
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<p@u.c> wrote in message news:qeXy8.15$t4....@news.uchicago.edu...

No, I refuse to debate the merits of inappropriate, un-patriotic speech. As
a liberal. you have a right to debate anything you like. I refuse to
participate. That does not impugn on your rights what so ever.

CB
--
If there were a goofy cult that prescribed eating your own excrement,
liberals would ponder its deeper meaning and treat it with respect.
--Ann Coulter
From, When Johnny Comes Slinking Home
How Liberals can find a gOD in most anything shiny

Its GasherbrumAgain

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bloo...@aol.com (Bloom,Leopold) wrote in message news:<8ebf5caf.0204...@posting.google.com>...

> >
> > "The content is an unbroken stream of hate and chauvinism directed against
> > women, people of color, liberals, immigrants and in particular people of
> > Middle Eastern heritage and people of the Muslim faith," ranted one Tom
> > Nelson, spokesman for so-called Coalition Against Hate Radio, in a tirade
> > showing his disdain for Savage's right to speak his mind as guaranteed by
> > the First Amendment.
>
> Well, that's a fair assessment of Mr. Savage and his performance.
> Although I believe his real name is Weiss.

real last name is wiener.

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