Tired of "TIRED OF" posts
king robin b
>When I first started reading this group, about a year ago, it was a lot of
>fun. People argued about stuff and sure it was intense, contentious and even
>acrimonious at times, but for the most part arguments were intellegent and
>made in good faith. Lately though, I have notice some disturbing trends.
>Name calling has always gone on, but it seems to be getting worse, more ad
>hominem (i.e. less in line with peoples arguments) and often downright racist
>and/or offensive. Even more disturbing, though, is the fact that I've seen actual
>*threats* here. Not the sort of general "black people should rise up and kill
>whitey" sort of threats, either, but specific "I'm gonna get you personally"
>threats.
>People, there is no place for this. I'm amazed that someone could know how
>to use a computer, but not know how to be an even marginally civilized human
>being. If you want to fight, join a gym. We *discuss* things here.
Well like I said earlier, I suspect that HUD has begun providing net
access in the public housing facilities.
I do agree with your point however, but it should be directed specifically
to the people *initiating* the threats, not to folks like me who are
simply defending themselves (and in the case of the delphi.com asshole,
my family) by *responding* to them. There's a BIG difference there!
But otherwise, like I said, you have a point.
By the way Lenora Levine, that was a neat trick using the alt.test
follow-up in order to make a mass of email bombs come at me. I'll
keep that in mind, especially if Paul Pomes (who in addition to being SA
is also a fellow gun-rights activist) asks me why my /mail/spool filled
up. Any other tricks up your sleave Lenora?
Robin
king robin b
>---> And just what the hell is that supposed to mean? As surprising
> as it may seem, some of the worst bile I've seen here comes
> from colleges and universities. A ridiculous and patently hateful
> comment like that casts serious doubt on your credibility.
Then you obviously know nothing about the criminal class that resides in
and controls American public housing. Some of the most culturally violent
people this country has ever known live there. I hope you are fortunate
enough to go the rest of your life without having to experience (ie; be a
victim of) this violence.
>---> Sorry, Bub, no points there. When someone threatens you or your
> family, you go to the police, you don't taunt them in public.
> It's called citizenship. Look into it.
In a historical sense this is not true. Citizens by-and-large were
responsible for THEIR OWN security and safety. When things worked this
way, bully criminals like your friend at delphi.com who threatened the
female members of my family with rape, torture, and death (because
they are white) were dealt with surely and swiftly. Now, thanks to
the police-state that people like you built, our culture has been
"taught" that the police are the primary providers of our safety and
security. And the police are about as efficient at delivering it as
the post office is at delivering the mail. Your thinking is both naive
and dangerous, and it is already having catastrophic consequences for
the good citizens of this country.
> In fact, you probably *increase* the danger with your bullshit
> macho posturing. And considering that the first poster implied
> a threat to your family, such posturing increases the threat to
> them, as well. So you see, your own actions have actually
> increased the risk to your family?
I doubt it. Like I said, just let the monkey try. The chimp better
stick to bullying old ladies on walkers.
> I'll say it again, there is no place on Usenet for threats or for
> personal invective ON ANYBODY'S PART. And that most assuredly
> includes you, Robin.
Funny, you can't get yourself to say a word against the original black
guy who started this whole thing by threatening my family, can you?
>Just Another Redneck Paisan
No, you're sounding more and more like another timid, PC-infected, Clueless
One. Go rejoin the sheep.
Robin
David Salvador Flores
>
>
>When I first started reading this group, about a year ago, it was a lot of
>fun. People argued about stuff and sure it was intense, contentious and even
>acrimonious at times, but for the most part arguments were intellegent and
>made in good faith. Lately though, I have notice some disturbing trends.
>Name calling has always gone on, but it seems to be getting worse, more ad
>hominem (i.e. less in line with peoples arguments) and often downright racist
>and/or offensive. Even more disturbing, though, is the fact that I've seen actual
>*threats* here. Not the sort of general "black people should rise up and kill
>whitey" sort of threats, either, but specific "I'm gonna get you personally"
>threats.
>
>People, there is no place for this. I'm amazed that someone could know how
>to use a computer, but not know how to be an even marginally civilized human
>being. If you want to fight, join a gym. We *discuss* things here.
>
Here, here. I agree entirely. This place was fun then. Now it seems
to have been co-opted by people with unabashedly racist attitudes.
Certainly a year ago no one on a.p.c. would have called anyone
a "chimp" for being black. No one would have made references to
"Jewish right-wingers who invented the term PC" or "Jewish
Left-wingers who are undermining our christian nation." (except
of course, for Danny the Nazi, who most people ignore anyway.)
I miss the old alt.politics.correct. I missed the old days when
people got flamed for being ignorant right-wingers or knee jerk
left-wingers. I hate what's happened to a.p.c. Its too bad too,
'cause its generally a small enough group that you can keep pretty
well abreadst of what's going on in it and its inhabitants.
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>"Set the gearshift for the high gear of your soul." -Phish
>
>
Big_Dave
David Salvador Flores
king robin b <rbk...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>ko...@acs4.bu.edu (Joseph Merlino) writes:
>
>
>
>>When I first started reading this group, about a year ago, it was a lot of
>>fun. People argued about stuff and sure it was intense, contentious and even
>>acrimonious at times, but for the most part arguments were intellegent and
>>made in good faith. Lately though, I have notice some disturbing trends.
>>Name calling has always gone on, but it seems to be getting worse, more ad
>>hominem (i.e. less in line with peoples arguments) and often downright racist
>>and/or offensive. Even more disturbing, though, is the fact that I've seen actual
>>*threats* here. Not the sort of general "black people should rise up and kill
>>whitey" sort of threats, either, but specific "I'm gonna get you personally"
>>threats.
>
>>People, there is no place for this. I'm amazed that someone could know how
>>to use a computer, but not know how to be an even marginally civilized human
>>being. If you want to fight, join a gym. We *discuss* things here.
>
>Well like I said earlier, I suspect that HUD has begun providing net
>access in the public housing facilities.
>
>
>Robin
Don't you get it Robin, you racist asshole. The post was directed against
people like you. Why don't you go away and let us debate without having
to hear people like you calling blacks "chimpanzees" and "monkeys."
Big_Dave
Lenore Levine
>By the way Lenora Levine, that was a neat trick using the alt.test
>follow-up in order to make a mass of email bombs come at me. I'll
>keep that in mind, especially if Paul Pomes (who in addition to being SA
>is also a fellow gun-rights activist) asks me why my /mail/spool filled
>up. Any other tricks up your sleave Lenora?
Yup. I posted some illiterate, racist garbage, and forged your
name to it.
Lenore "agent of the Jewish conspiracy" Levine
king robin b
Okay. But you and Ms. Hatch of Kalifornia should not waste your time
posting your forged posts to 102 E. Main, I'm in 331 Water Resources,
which is much closer to both your office and your residence, thus making
your proposed visits more convenient. Since you two have proposed visiting
me, I have decided to drop my preparation for thesis defense and instead
prepare the surroundings for this blessed event. Should I wear anything
special? Also, Ms. Hatch should know that the airlines have started
another fare-war, and she should be able to fly from San Francisco
International to Willard for about $298 R/T, but this will require her to
travel on a Saturday or Tuesday thru Thursday. Ms. Hatch, I advise you
take the TWA dinner flight, they have the best meals of any of the three
major carriers servicing Willard.
And BTW, you two have shown more testosterone then most of the GUYS on
this newsgroup. Good day ladies.
Robin
Jeff Billman
>Well like I said earlier, I suspect that HUD has begun providing net
>access in the public housing facilities.
Well, let's see... I live in HUD-subsidized housing, I have net access
from my apartment, but it's not provided by HUD and I've never been known
to post "tired of green martian idiots" tripe. Does that help clear
things up for you?
Oh, and did I mention I'm white? Just FYI, of course- I'd never
insinuate that you're being racist. :-)
>By the way Lenora Levine, that was a neat trick using the alt.test
>follow-up in order to make a mass of email bombs come at me.
Well, that was a nasty little trick! I think The T*rk*sh One Whose Name
Should Never Be Mentioned had one of his many accounts revoked for that
garbage. I should know- he did it to me once. :-( You may want to look
into that- doing what you say Levine did is prohibited by many sites.
--
Jeff Billman jbi...@bgsuvax.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ.
"Please file three copies of this electronic e-mail message in triplicate
as per the guidelines set forth by the Bureau of Redundancy Department,
which implemented these procedures."
Joseph Merlino
When I first started reading this group, about a year ago, it was a lot of
fun. People argued about stuff and sure it was intense, contentious and even
acrimonious at times, but for the most part arguments were intellegent and
made in good faith. Lately though, I have notice some disturbing trends.
Name calling has always gone on, but it seems to be getting worse, more ad
hominem (i.e. less in line with peoples arguments) and often downright racist
and/or offensive. Even more disturbing, though, is the fact that I've seen actual
*threats* here. Not the sort of general "black people should rise up and kill
whitey" sort of threats, either, but specific "I'm gonna get you personally"
threats.
People, there is no place for this. I'm amazed that someone could know how
to use a computer, but not know how to be an even marginally civilized human
being. If you want to fight, join a gym. We *discuss* things here.
Just Another Redneck Paisan
Joseph Merlino
>ko...@acs4.bu.edu (Joseph Merlino) writes:
>
>>People, there is no place for this. I'm amazed that someone could know how
>>to use a computer, but not know how to be an even marginally civilized human
>>being. If you want to fight, join a gym. We *discuss* things here.
>
>Well like I said earlier, I suspect that HUD has begun providing net
>access in the public housing facilities.
---> And just what the hell is that supposed to mean? As surprising
as it may seem, some of the worst bile I've seen here comes
from colleges and universities. A ridiculous and patently hateful
comment like that casts serious doubt on your credibility.
>I do agree with your point however, but it should be directed specifically
>to the people *initiating* the threats, not to folks like me who are
>simply defending themselves (and in the case of the delphi.com asshole,
>my family) by *responding* to them.
---> Sorry, Bub, no points there. When someone threatens you or your
family, you go to the police, you don't taunt them in public.
It's called citizenship. Look into it.
> There's a BIG difference there!
---> True, but not as big as you think. If someone says (especially in
writing), "I'm gonna get you!" you do not lessen the risk to
yourself by saying "Oh yeah, asshole? I'd like to see you try!"
In fact, you probably *increase* the danger with your bullshit
macho posturing. And considering that the first poster implied
a threat to your family, such posturing increases the threat to
them, as well. So you see, your own actions have actually increased
the risk to your family? Is that really what you wanted to do.
I'll say it again, there is no place on Usenet for threats or for
personal invective ON ANYBODY'S PART. And that most assuredly
includes you, Robin.
Just Another Redneck Paisan
Ross Martin Levine
>Since (Bobbi and I) have proposed visiting
>me, I have decided to drop my preparation for thesis defense and instead
>prepare the surroundings for this blessed event.
Are you trying to hint that because of your formal education,
you're not an idiot? <snicker>
>And BTW, you two have shown more testosterone then most of the GUYS on
>this newsgroup. Good day ladies.
Actually, I'm Lenore Levine's brother, Ross Martin Levine. I've
been using her account to post from. You know, Lenore's
sorta scared to be on the net herself. I think she's
afraid some creep might try to, you know, sexually harass her.
On the other hand, "Bobbi Hatch" is a real woman who also
posts under the male pseudonym Bob Christ. She's a redhead and hot,
hot, hot, if you know what I mean.
Ross Martin Levine
P.S. Robin, you're still an asshole. Go screw yourself with a
cabbage grater, because nobody wants your garbage on the net.
Roberta Hatch
>Okay. But you and Ms. Hatch of Kalifornia should not waste your time
>posting your forged posts to 102 E. Main, I'm in 331 Water Resources,
>which is much closer to both your office and your residence, thus making
>your proposed visits more convenient.
Nobody said anything about *just* one place to pin your crap up. I was
thinking of many. All over campus *and* 102 E. Main. Now I'll go for
for the other address too.
Nobody said anything about forged posts either. You need to learn how to
read. You really are a gem, bonehead. I'm talking about the crap that
you've postedd here. Has there been someone posting articles, using
your name?
> Since you two have proposed visiting
>me, I have decided to drop my preparation for thesis defense...
Nobody said anything about visiting you either. But, what the hey.
>Should I wear anything special?
Your lovely chiffon evening gown would be nice.
>Also, Ms. Hatch should know that the airlines have started
>another fare-war, and she should be able to fly from San Francisco
>International to Willard for about $298 R/T,
Thanks for the tip, Mr. Clueless fuckwit. Here's one for you, ask your
'SA' pal what the chfn(1) command does. Should I take Corky's, or do
you want to pick me up at the airport?
>Ms. Hatch, I advise you take the TWA dinner flight, they have the best
>meals of any of the three major carriers servicing Willard.
Nah, I'll be taking American.
>And BTW, you two have shown more testosterone then most of the GUYS on
>this newsgroup. Good day ladies.
More balls too. A grand total of two more than you've got.
Bobbi
---
I am a vegan because I do not want anything to suffer or die for my food,
clothing, personal care items or household cleaning items.
Roberta Hatch
>By the way Lenora Levine, that was a neat trick using the alt.test
>follow-up in order to make a mass of email bombs come at me. I'll
>keep that in mind, especially if Paul Pomes (who in addition to being SA
>is also a fellow gun-rights activist) asks me why my /mail/spool filled
>up. Any other tricks up your sleave Lenora?
You should aanswer, "Because I'm a clueless shithead that doesn't know
how to operate my newsreader." Yup, thats what you should answer.
By the way, needle-dick, you should learn not to make idle threats, you
can get burned by doing so... Trust me. <hee>
Bobbi
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apply the wire brush of enlightenment."
- Geoff Miller
Anne Threston
>Okay. But you and Ms. Hatch of Kalifornia should not waste your time
>posting your forged posts to 102 E. Main, I'm in 331 Water Resources,
>which is much closer to both your office and your residence, thus making
>your proposed visits more convenient. Since you two have proposed visiting
>me, I have decided to drop my preparation for thesis defense and instead
>prepare the surroundings for this blessed event.
Thesis defense? Bwahahahaha! Robin, my dear boy, you will have
a great deal to defend if your thesis displays the same mutilation
of the noun-verb relationship as your posts to a.p.c do. At the very
least, I hope you've run your contribution to American scholarship
through Spell-Check once or twice.
Anne "They just let *anyone* into grad school these days" Threston
king robin b
(and Robin King wrote:)
>Nobody said anything about forged posts either. You need to learn how to
>read. You really are a gem, bonehead. I'm talking about the crap that
>you've postedd here. Has there been someone posting articles, using
>your name?
You need to read the whole thread.
>>Also, Ms. Hatch should know that the airlines have started
>>another fare-war, and she should be able to fly from San Francisco
>>International to Willard for about $298 R/T,
>Thanks for the tip, Mr. Clueless fuckwit.
>Should I take Corky's, or do
>you want to pick me up at the airport?
That depends, what do you look like? Heck, if your looks are up to par,
I'll pay for your whole darn ticket!
>>Ms. Hatch, I advise you take the TWA dinner flight, they have the best
>>meals of any of the three major carriers servicing Willard.
>Nah, I'll be taking American.
I've had TERRIBLE luck on the Sacramento-ORB flight. Maybe the SFI-ORB
run is better. American sucks.
>>And BTW, you two have shown more testosterone then most of the GUYS on
>>this newsgroup. Good day ladies.
>More balls too. A grand total of two more than you've got.
You sure about that? You might want to personally confirm that
allegation before making any conclusions, unless you're implying you
have four balls. A female with four balls?? Only in Kalifornia.
>I am a vegan because I do not want anything to suffer or die for my food,
>clothing, personal care items or household cleaning items.
I hope you mean this, and you really *don't* engage in that incredibly
cruel stuff you and Lenore have written about (torturing animals and such).
Robin
king robin b
>Actually, I'm Lenore Levine's brother, Ross Martin Levine. I've
>been using her account to post from. You know, Lenore's
>sorta scared to be on the net herself. I think she's
>afraid some creep might try to, you know, sexually harass her.
Oh I see. Well that's different. Tell Lenore that if she would display
better net.ettiquette then she probably wouldn't have such a guilty
conscious. Understand Lenore..., oops, I mean Ross? <snicker>
>On the other hand, "Bobbi Hatch" is a real woman who also
>posts under the male pseudonym Bob Christ. She's a redhead and hot,
>hot, hot, if you know what I mean.
Oh I see. Then consider my implied offer made earlier to now be
an *explicit* one.
>P.S. Robin, you're still an asshole. Go screw yourself with a
>cabbage grater, because nobody wants your garbage on the net.
Boy Ross, you sound just like your sister! <double snicker>
Maybe you should ask your sister if we can all get together at Murphys
some nite for a few beers and some amicable, more constructive, dialogue.
What do you think she would say to that?
Robin
Chris Kilbourn
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Garrett R Le-Page
>>By the way Lenora Levine, that was a neat trick using the alt.test
>>follow-up in order to make a mass of email bombs come at me.
>Well, that was a nasty little trick! I think The T*rk*sh One Whose Name
>Should Never Be Mentioned had one of his many accounts revoked for that
>garbage. I should know- he did it to me once. :-( You may want to look
>into that- doing what you say Levine did is prohibited by many sites.
Yeah, Bob Christ did that to me. I simply forwarded them to the sweety
and then killfiled his name.
Garrett R Le-Page
>On the other hand, "Bobbi Hatch" is a real woman who also
>posts under the male pseudonym Bob Christ. She's a redhead and hot,
>hot, hot, if you know what I mean.
Thanks for the info (I WAS wondering). Now I can killfile her "I know
more about Newsgroups than you" immaturity from my world.
Oh, the last word: Roberta, get a life sometime soon. O.K.?
Bob Another beer, please Christ
>>Nobody said anything about forged posts either. You need to learn how to
>>read. You really are a gem, bonehead. I'm talking about the crap that
>>you've postedd here. Has there been someone posting articles, using
>>your name?
>You need to read the whole thread.
I did, you fucking moron. Levine cracked a fucking *joke* that whirlled
right over your pointy head. She never forged *any* posts.
>>Thanks for the tip, Mr. Clueless fuckwit.
>>Should I take Corky's, or do
>>you want to pick me up at the airport?
>That depends, what do you look like? Heck, if your looks are up to par,
>I'll pay for your whole darn ticket!
Friday, Sept. 30, flight 4080, arives 339P. Gonna pick me up, sweetie?
>I hope you mean this, and you really *don't* engage in that incredibly
>cruel stuff you and Lenore have written about (torturing animals and such).
You might find out, pindick.
Bob
PS: By the way, you really should stop posting to misc.test. Bad form.
---
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Developmental Center in San Jose, California. All his opinions are
static, please ignore him.
Thank you, Nurse Ratched
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:>Big_Dave
HEY BIG_DORK, STILL AS DELUDED AS EVER I SEEE! WHENYOU GOING TO LERN
YOURE AN PC IDIOT?