Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est." "A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca "the Younger" (ca. 4 BCE-65 CE ). Look how long ago the liberals were doing the same stupidity!
Keep in mind that Ft Hood, for whatever insane reason, was a Victim Disarmament Zone.
Guns caused the Fort Hood mass-murder, says Chicago's Mayor November 12, 6:36 AMLaw Enforcement ExaminerJim Kouri
Chicago Mayor Richard Daley, a loyal Democrat and liberal-left ideologue, blamed the Fort Hood massacre --perpetrated last Thursday by a radical Muslim soldier --on firearms.
"Mayor Daley is deplorably capitalizing on the outrage at Fort Hood to push his gun prohibition agenda," said Alan Gottlieb, chairman of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.
"This is the height of moral bankruptcy from a man whose administration was sued Wednesday morning by the Chicago inspector general over apparent interference with an investigation into possible wrongdoing by current and former city employees."
The Mayor of one of the most -- if not the most -- politically corrupt cities in the United States, Daley reacted to the Fort Hood shooting by telling reporters, "Unfortunately, America loves Guns. We love guns to a point where that, uh, we see devastation on a daily basis. You don't blame a group."
"You don't blame guns, either," Gottlieb fired back. "You hold the perpetrator responsible for his crime, not the instruments he used. Would Daley blame cars for the highway carnage created by drunk drivers?"
Gottlieb went on to say, "Perhaps the real culprit here is former President Bill Clinton. The Washington Times revealed this morning that after he took office in 1993, the Army, under Clinton, instituted a ban on the carrying of firearms by military personnel on their bases. As a result, soldiers have been disarmed and left vulnerable to this kind of attack. Using Daley's logic, he should blame Clinton for the Fort Hood massacre. That makes more sense than blaming guns."
Mayor Daley is proud of his involvement with a group called Mayor Against Illegal Guns, says political strategist Mike Baker.
"As with our current president -- who hails from Chicago -- Daley is your typical Illinois politician who talk like Hippies but behave like the Mafia," he quipped.
Gottlieb and other gun-rights activists believe Daley has an agenda that he shares with other anti-gun extremists: They will exploit any tragedy to pursue their goal of public disarmament and destruction of the Second Amendment. Whether it is the assassination of a Seattle police officer, the murder of 13 people at Fort Hood, or the horrible body count of crime victims that has piled up in Chicago under Daley's regime, they will dance through the blood toward the nearest sympathetic microphone to push their cause.
"I'm not a member of any gun-rights group, but I'm not buying [Mayor] Daley's analysis. The Fort Hood murders were perpetrated by a radical Islamist. In this case, he used firearms. He could have used any other method -- IED [improvised explosive device] or bio-weapon -- and still would have killed innocent people. Perhaps more than the 13 deaths attributed to the killer's attack," explains former NYPD detective and US Marine Sid Frances.
"America must ignore the ravings of anti-gun fanatics," he concluded, "who are so blinded by a hatred for individual liberty and personal protection that they cannot see how foolish and petty they have become," said Gottlieb.
With more than 650,000 members and supporters nationwide, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (www.ccrkba.org) is one of the nation's premier gun rights organizations. As a non-profit organization, the Citizens Committee is dedicated to preserving firearms freedoms through active lobbying of elected officials and facilitating grass-roots organization of gun rights activists in local communities throughout the United States.
Devil's Advocate wrote: > This guy is despicable beyond words.
> Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est." > "A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands." > - Lucius Annaeus Seneca "the Younger" (ca. 4 BCE-65 CE ). > Look how long ago the liberals were doing the same stupidity!
> Keep in mind that Ft Hood, for whatever insane reason, was a Victim > Disarmament Zone.
> A person, all by himself, could never have done that. > He needed a gun to do what he did.
Perhaps, but it wasn't the gun that did it. He did.
> But it's notable that you defend your right to arm our enemies against > us.
He wasn't our enemy when he got the gun per NICS. That was due (again) to other psychologists, etc.. not reporting him. The FBI could have stopped that purchase also simply by entering into NICS that Hasan was being investigated. They didn't do.
-- Sleep well tonight,
RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong?
> "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote in >> A person, all by himself, could never have done that. >> He needed a gun to do what he did.
> Perhaps, but it wasn't the gun that did it. He did.
Since nobody claimed otherwise? You gun-nuts are just like the anti-immigrants. No matter what the topic is, or how unrelated it is to yours - you play the victim on it.
>>> A person, all by himself, could never have done that. >>> He needed a gun to do what he did.
>> Perhaps, but it wasn't the gun that did it. He did.
>Since nobody claimed otherwise? >You gun-nuts are just like the anti-immigrants. >No matter what the topic is, or how unrelated it is to yours - you play the >victim on it.
You just got done playing the victim a few posts ago, claiming "gun nuts" are "arming our enemies."
> In talk.politics.guns "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote: >>"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message >>No matter what the topic is, or how unrelated it is to yours - you play >>the >>victim on it.
> You just got done playing the victim a few posts ago, claiming "gun > nuts" are "arming our enemies."
It's funny, RD, that the only ones who ever defend your position are nut-jobs like that. It says a lot about your position that only these tantrum-throwers ever agree with you.
In talk.politics.guns "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
>"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:ltttf5565pe6tgo0a50a6loebjt0kfjim9@4ax.com... >> In talk.politics.guns "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote: >>>"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>No matter what the topic is, or how unrelated it is to yours - you play >>>the >>>victim on it.
>> You just got done playing the victim a few posts ago, claiming "gun >> nuts" are "arming our enemies."
>It's funny, RD, that the only ones who ever defend your position are >nut-jobs like that.
It's even funnier that you've got no idea who the fuck you're replying to.
>It says a lot about your position that only these tantrum-throwers ever >agree with you.
It says a lot about your position that you don't even realize what a duplicitous and hypocritical asshole you are.
>>> A person, all by himself, could never have done that. >>> He needed a gun to do what he did.
>> Perhaps, but it wasn't the gun that did it. He did.
> Since nobody claimed otherwise? > You gun-nuts are just like the anti-immigrants. > No matter what the topic is, or how unrelated it is to yours - you > play the victim on it.
Usually in these comments from antigun folks, we are the victim.
-- Sleep well tonight,
RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong?
> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:ltttf5565pe6tgo0a50a6loebjt0kfjim9@4ax.com... >> In talk.politics.guns "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote: >>>"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>No matter what the topic is, or how unrelated it is to yours - you play >>>the >>>victim on it.
>> You just got done playing the victim a few posts ago, claiming "gun >> nuts" are "arming our enemies."
> It's funny, RD, that the only ones who ever defend your position are > nut-jobs like that. > It says a lot about your position that only these tantrum-throwers ever > agree with you.
What I find interesting is that they are responding to folks like you. That says even more.
-- Sleep well tonight,
RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong?
> "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote in news:CtDLm.22009$de6.12455 >> It's funny, RD, that the only ones who ever defend your position are >> nut-jobs like that. >> It says a lot about your position that only these tantrum-throwers ever >> agree with you.
> What I find interesting is that they are responding to folks like you. > That says even more.
>> Usually in these comments from antigun folks, we are the victim.
> How sad for you, to think yourself to be so weak.
Shhhh, that's what the other side thinks.....
-- Sleep well tonight,
RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong?
> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9CC46AC92998Bhopewell@216.196.97.130... >> "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote in >> news:CtDLm.22009$de6.12455
>>> It's funny, RD, that the only ones who ever defend your position are >>> nut-jobs like that. >>> It says a lot about your position that only these tantrum-throwers >>> ever agree with you.
>> What I find interesting is that they are responding to folks like >> you. That says even more.
> It says they're just like you.
When it comes to guns, yes, many of them are.
-- Sleep well tonight,
RD (The Sandman)
Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong?
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