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Dionysus

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Nov 13, 2009, 3:44:50 PM11/13/09
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FROM THE LID

HEAD: Terror Trial Move Designed to Create an American Nuremberg: Bush
Administration Will Be The Real Defendant

In a move expected but feared, self-proclaimed Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid
Sheikh Mohammed and four other Guantanamo Bay detainees will be brought to
trial in a civilian federal courthouse in New York, blocks from site of the
devastating 2001 terror attacks. Prosecutors expect to seek the death
penalty.

While the opponents of the move are fearful of moving the trial from a
Military Tribunal in Gitmo, to a civilian court in NY may make it easier for
the terrorist be found innocent, that is not the real problem with the move.
Neither is the worry that New York will become a an ever bigger target for
al Qaeda and other terrorist groups.

The terrorist cases are being moved to civilian court is to make his left
wing supporters happy by putting George Bush, his administration, the CIA,
military and intelligence operatives on trial, in the number one media city
in the world home of the liberal Media, NYC.

Liberals will tell you that the trial was moved so the terrorists could
receive justice, a fair trial with all of the defendant rights that a
civilization court offers. Problem is the guilt of these defendants is a
moot point...they already confessed. They said that they wanted to be
executed so they could be martyred, meet Allah, and get their 72 ugly
virgins. A year ago Mohammed and his four co-defendants told the judge that
they wished to confess and plead guilty to all charges. The only reason they
held off is because the judge could not guarantee the death penalty. Because
they already confessed, the only strategy their lawyers will take is to put
the victim on trial...us!

All of these people will be called as witnesses in the trial by the defense,
the methods and techniques of the CIA, military and intelligence operatives
will be put on trial, not the terrorists, all with the purpose of sating the
liberal desire to "hang" the Bush administration and reveal to the
terrorists and the rest of the world, the secret ways that the government
has been protecting the United States.

The horrible effect of moving this trial to NY surrounds the rules of
evidence. During the discovery process the defense can get hold of just
about everything including: How were they tracked and found? Which agents?
What methods and equipment? Where was everything located? What methods were
used to get information from the terrorists? what kind of enhanced
interrogation techniques? Who interrogated the terrorists? Who approved the
methods? Where were they held? And so much more

This is going to be another OJ trial. As you may remember, after he
murdered his wife and Ron Goldman, OJ was not put on trial, the LAPD
especially Det. Mark Fuhrman was put on trail. The defense alleged that
Fuhrman had planted the glove at Simpson's house and that the analysis
finding that the hair could be Brown's could not be reliable. Defense
attorney Johnny Cochran told the jury Fuhrman was like Adolf Hitler.
Cochran called Fuhrman "a genocidal racist, a perjurer, America's worst
nightmare and the personification of evil."

Sure, there is the possibility that a judge could throw out all of the
evidence and they can be acquitted, but it is more likely that the heroes
who are protecting this country will be dragged through the mud. And the
best part about it for the President and Attorney General is the blame for
crucifying our heroes, and releasing state secrets will be placed solely on
the head of the Judge. Their hands remain clean. And don't think for one
moment they didn't plan it that way.

True it will make NY a bigger target for terrorists. Liberals will tell you
that the trial of the "Blind Sheik," Abdel-Rahman who planned the first
World Trade Tower bombing took place in NY and nothing happened. I guess
they never heard about 9/11.

So get ready for the trial of the century, as Barack Obama, the man who said
he wants to improve the reputation of the United States puts America on
trial before the world. Its a show trial, designed to embarrass and
politically kill off his predecessors. They can't put an axe in the back of
their heads like Stalin did to Trotsky, so this will just have to suffice.
***********
Damn that son of a bitch Obama...damn him to hell. It is past time to be
thinking of impeachment and removal from office for that SOB.

"Government Needs To Be Reminded Orwell's Book "1984" Was a Warning, Not a
Blueprint!"- Author unknown

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims
may be the most oppressive." - C.S. Lewis

Why would anyone support Da Whiny Lyin' Prick, that "boy in a man's job"?

I predict "My God, what did we do" voter regret , the Republicans re-taking
Congress in two years, and Da Whiny Lyin' Prick's bony ass being kicked out
in four...if he survives.

No Surrender!

Dionysus

hal

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Nov 13, 2009, 4:24:12 PM11/13/09
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:44:50 -0500, "Dionysus"
<no.sur...@never.net> wrote:


>Damn that son of a bitch Obama...damn him to hell. It is past time to be
>thinking of impeachment and removal from office for that SOB.

BWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!

god, watching you melt down is going to be so much fun !

Grand Mal

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"Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote in message
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A list of KSM's confessions after being waterboarded 163 times...

a.. The February 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center in New York City
b.. A failed "shoe bomber" operation
c.. The October 2002 attack in Kuwait
d.. The nightclub bombing in Bali, Indonesia
e.. A plan for a "second wave" of attacks on major U.S. landmarks after
the 9/11 attacks, including the Library Tower in Los Angeles, the Sears
Tower in Chicago, the Plaza Bank Building in Seattle and the Empire State
Building in New York
f.. Plots to attack oil tankers and U.S. naval ships in the Straits of
Hormuz, the Straits of Gibraltar and in Singapore
g.. A plan to blow up the Panama Canal
h.. Plans to assassinate Jimmy Carter
i.. A plot to blow up suspension bridges in New York City
j.. A plan to destroy the Sears Tower in Chicago with burning fuel trucks
k.. Plans to "destroy" Heathrow Airport, Canary Wharf and Big Ben in
London
l.. A planned attack on "many" nightclubs in Thailand
m.. A plot targeting the New York Stock Exchange and other U.S. financial
targets
n.. A plan to destroy buildings in Eilat, Israel
o.. Plans to destroy U.S. embassies in Indonesia, Australia and Japan in
2002.
p.. Plots to destroy Israeli embassies in India, Azerbaijan, the
Philippines and Australia
q.. Surveying and financing an attack on an Israeli El-Al flight from
Bangkok
r.. Sending several "mujahideen" into Israel to survey "strategic targets"
with the intention of attacking them
s.. The November 2002 suicide bombing of a hotel in Mombasa, Kenya
t.. The failed attempt to shoot down an Israeli passenger jet leaving
Mombasa airport in Kenya
u.. Plans to attack U.S. targets in South Korea
v.. Providing financial support for a plan to attack U.S., British and
Jewish targets in Turkey
w.. Surveillance of U.S. nuclear power plants in order to attack them
x.. A plot to attack NATO's headquarters in Europe
y.. Planning and surveillance in a 1995 plan (the "Bojinka Operation") to
bomb 12 American passenger jets
z.. The planned assassination attempt against then-U.S. President Bill
Clinton during a mid-1990s trip to the Philippines.
aa.. "Shared responsibility" for a plot to kill Pope John Paul II
ab.. Plans to assassinate Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf
ac.. An attempt to attack a U.S. oil company in Sumatra, Indonesia, "owned
by the Jewish former [U.S.] Secretary of State Henry Kissinger"
ad.. The beheading of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl
Source: BBC[70]

from Wikipedia

Topaz

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Nov 13, 2009, 5:28:20 PM11/13/09
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The West is the White race.

The goal of America is to destroy the White race. The
multi-culture and pluralism they push is only at the expense of
Whites. No one is trying to push multi-culture in China or Japan or
anyplace but on the Whites. And they promote racial intermarriage.
If things continue as they are the White race is doomed.

And who is doing all of this? It is the USA government and the
media, in other words the Jews.

Many Whites are traitors. They support the USA government and their
own destruction. We should look for allies. And anyone who wants to
remove the Jews from power is our ally. In the past the Japanese were
our allies. Today it is the Muslims.

Osama bin Laden
September 24th statement published in Pakistan

"I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We
are against the system, which makes other nations slaves of the United
States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic
freedom. This system is totally in control of the American Jews, whose
first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is simply that the
American people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced
to live according to the principles and laws laid by them. So, the
punishment should reach Israel. In fact, it
is Israel, which is giving a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the
U.S. is not uttering a single word."

http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/

http://www.natvan.com http://www.nsm88.org

http://heretical.com/ http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/

Dave Heil

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Nov 13, 2009, 9:01:18 PM11/13/09
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Topaz wrote:
> The West is the White race.


That isn't true in North America
That isn't true in South America
It isn't true in Europe.


You must be mistaken--or crazy.

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Clave

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"All the Tea in China Blue" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <Zf-dnbUTofOpWGDX...@giganews.com>,

> "Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote:
>
>> moot point...they already confessed. They said that they wanted to be
>
> If they plead guilty, it will be a short trial. What are you complaining
> abot?

Well, at least in KSM's case, he was reportedly waterboarded about 180
times.

His "confession", poisoned as it most likely is, might not even be
introduced.

Holder sez he's confident that other evidence is enough to convict, and I
have no reason to disbelieve him, although KSM's trial may not be short.

Jim


Dionysus

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***********
Those terrorists sons of bitches should never be given the same
constitutional rights as US citizens.

What they did was not some NY subway mugging, but Da Whiny Lyin' Prick's
adminstration wants to treat their war cirmnes as a civilian infraction.

I bet we'll see a huge backlash against this, and Da Whiny Lyin' Prick's
choices will damage dose dud Dems in congress even more than it already has.
Hope so, anyway.

No Surrender!

Dionysus
>
>

Dionysus

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Pick the latter for that nazi SOB, and you'll be correct.

Dionysus

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Slappy

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Americans "serving" in the Middle East ARE NOT PROTECTING THIS
COUNTRY!

Only by bringing them home will they actually be protecting us.

U.S. "HOMELAND SECURITY," crooked and bumbling as it is, has nothing
to do with fighting the Taliban and al-Qaeda in lands that time and
history have shit upon.

Topaz

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Portugal was once a great nation. It might have been the greatest
nation on earth at one time. But now it is almost like a third world
country. What happened? Race-mixing is what happened. They let a lot
of Black people in and of course the result was racial inter-marriage.
Now the Portuguese people are not as White as they were. We need to
preserve the White race. Here are some quotes from Mein Kampf:

"All that we admire in the world to-day, its science, its art, its
technical developments and discoveries, are the products of the
creative activities of a few peoples, and it may be true that their
first beginnings must be attributed to one race. The maintenance of
civilization is wholly dependant on such peoples. Should they perish,
all that makes this earth beautiful will descend with them into the
grave."

"All the great civilizations of the past became decadent because the
originally creative race died out, as a result of the contamination on
the blood."

"Every manifestation of human culture, every product of art, science
and technical skill, which we see before our eyes to-day, is almost
exclusively the product of the Aryan creative power. This very fact
fully justifies the conclusion that it was the Aryan alone who founded
a superior type of humanity"

"The foundations of actual life in Japan to-day are not those of the
native Japanese culture, although this characterizes the external
features of the country, which features strike the eye of European
observers on account of their fundamental difference from us; but the
real foundations of contemporary Japanese life are the enormous
scientific and technical achievements of Europe and America, that is
to say, of Aryan peoples."
"A people that fails to preserve the purity of its racial blood
thereby destroys the unity of the soul of the nation in all its
manifestations. A disintegrated national character is the inevitable
consequence of the process of disintegration in the blood. And the
change which takes place in the spiritual and creative faculties of a
people is only an effect of the change that had modified its racial
substance."

"For in a world which would be composed of mongrels and Negroid all
ideals of human beauty and nobility and all hopes of an idealized
future for our humanity would be lost forever."

"It is especially the cultural creativeness which disappears when a
superior race inter-mixes with an inferior one."

"There may be hundreds of excellent States in this earth, and yet if
the Aryan, who is the creator and custodian of civilization, should
disappear, all culture that is on an adequate level with the spiritual
needs of the superior nations to-day would also disappear."

"We National Socialists know that in holding these views we take up a
revolutionary stand in the world to-day and that we are branded as
revolutionaries. But our views and our conduct will not be determined
by the approbation or disapprobation of our contemporaries, but only
by our duty to follow a truth which we have acknowledged. In doing
this we have reason to believe that posterity will have a clearer
insight"

"Thus for the first time a high inner purpose is accredited to the
State. In face of the ridiculous phrase that the State should do no
more than act as the guardian of public order and tranquility, so that
everybody can peacefully dupe everybody else, it is given a very high
mission indeed to preserve and encourage the highest type of humanity
which a beneficent Creator has bestowed on this earth."

Topaz

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"There's this hilarious disconnect in the sheeple brain, where they
have been progressively brainwashed over a forty year period into
believing that once they have committed suicide themselves, an
identical civilization will be left behind except with a different
demographic makeup. They will yank the white tablecloth out from under
the dinnerware and the society will remain standing, only
melanin-enriched but otherwise the same.

It's like white people all over the planet were each taking turns
shooting themselves in the head with the same gun, convinced when they
have all killed themselves they will leave the perfect society behind.
I've got bad news for you. What you think of as civilization is joined
at the hip with the Indo-European gene pool. It's not even like oil
and water because it's all an unbroken continuum.

Culture is gene expression. If enough Mexicans inhabit any area on the
planet, that area will look exactly like Mexico in short order.

There's no piece of land on Earth that has a special gas exuded by the
local soil that makes flush toilets, clean running water, air
conditioning and the rule of law. There's no geographic location that
has these properties inherently. Irregardless of whether they are
bright enough to see it and understand why, whites tend to terraform
their surroundings to reflect what is inside them. Everything they
take for granted as the human standard, is in fact a projection of
their own qualities out onto a world that by and large is completely
indifferent to them.

America has already slipped past the demographic failsafe point. There
ain't no going back. Just like the nation formerly known as Rhodesia,
you will hear all sorts of yammering and analysis and whining but
nothing can stop Rhodesia from becoming Zimbabwe once all the
Rhodesians leave. It's a done deal.

There's no legislation. There's no emergency action committee. There's
no orchestrated government reform program. There's no mission
statement. There's no declaration of goals or judicial decision. Once
you change the genetic composition of a country, that country will
come to reflect it's demographics, not the other way around.
I went to high school in Chicago. Trust me, thirty years ago it didn't
look like the background of that news report. That was back when
Chicago schools were the best in the country and had some of the
highest scholastic scores in the nation. Back then, next to nobody
dropped out, ever.

You can't keep the street lights working with only half a nation of
high school graduates. You can't find the manpower to keep the ATM
machines running, to keep the power plant maintained at the dam, to
keep the nuclear reactor running. You can't have good medical care
with no good doctors. You can't have bridges that don't collapse with
no engineers.

America is just like Rhodesia during desegregation. All those
Rhodesians who talked about the coming era of rainbow folk dancing and
singing hand-in-hand with their African friends playing little
ukeleles, where are they now? The wind howls. Tumbleweeds blow past.
Two rabid wild dogs fight over a human ribcage in the streets where
the electricity went off a decade ago and has never come back on.
Where are all those Rhodesians looking forward to an era of peace and
harmony now? Where are they? Answer me. Raped and left for dead.
They're all wormfood now. Their farms burned to the ground, their
children strangled, their wives gangraped and forced to run naked
screaming with burning tire necklaces.

Fools. Dust in the wind. Shot in the back of the head and left for the
buzzards in some ditch on the veldt long ago.

It doesn't matter if I'm the only human being out of six billion on
the planet who knows this. Irregardless of the forcible consensus,
this is the way it will come to pass. I will be demonstrated right and
they will turn out to have been catastrophically wrong. Wishing
otherwise never makes anything so.

In another ten years, Amerikwa will be utterly unrecognizable. I
predict that the first thing that will hit you no matter where you get
off a plane in that country will be the smell. Watch and see."

DonnaGiorno

Tater Gumfries

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On Nov 13, 1:44 pm, "Dionysus" <no.surren...@never.net> wrote:

> Damn that son of a bitch Obama...damn him to hell. It is past time to be
> thinking of impeachment  and removal from office for that SOB.


So... is it time to have him killed?

Tater

Econotron

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"All the Tea in China Blue" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <Zf-dnbUTofOpWGDX...@giganews.com>,
> "Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote:
>
>> moot point...they already confessed. They said that they wanted to be
>
> If they plead guilty, it will be a short trial. What are you complaining
> abot?
>
They will be executed and become martyrs. The short trial will reverberate
in the Muslim world for many months afterwards, inspiring an army of new
terrorists, who would want to follow the example. One way or another, get
ready for new terrorist acts on the US soil.
e.


Dionysus

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> In article <9IidnW_JjLjpKmPX...@giganews.com>,

> "Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote:
>
>> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>> news:oNGdnQn3gL01_2PX...@cablespeedmi.com...
>> > "All the Tea in China Blue" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:chine.bleu-1005F...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> >> In article <Zf-dnbUTofOpWGDX...@giganews.com>,
>> >> "Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> moot point...they already confessed. They said that they wanted to be
>> >>
>> >> If they plead guilty, it will be a short trial. What are you
>> >> complaining
>> >> abot?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Well, at least in KSM's case, he was reportedly waterboarded about 180
>> > times.
>> >
>> > His "confession", poisoned as it most likely is, might not even be
>> > introduced.
>> >
>> > Holder sez he's confident that other evidence is enough to convict, and
>> > I
>> > have no reason to disbelieve him, although KSM's trial may not be
>> > short.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> ***********
>> Those terrorists sons of bitches should never be given the same
>> constitutional rights as US citizens.
>
> Lynch em! Lynch em!
***********
Why waste good rope? How about doin' a Danny Pearl on 'em? They've already
confessed.

No Surrender!

Dionysus
>
> --
> Damn the living - It's a lovely life. I'm whoever you want me to
> be.
> Silver silverware - Where is the love? At least I can stay in
> character.
> Oval swimming pool - Where is the love? Annoying Usenet one post at a
> time.
> Damn the living - It's a lovely life. We support you,
> Sarah.

Dionysus

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*********
"Killed"? Your word, not mine. I just want him gone.

No Surrender!

Dionysus

Tater

Grand Mal

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Hey, you could always move to Canada. All you have to do is promise not to
shoot anyone and not to yodel when you sing.


hal

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On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:58:30 -0500, "Dionysus"
<no.sur...@never.net> wrote:

>
>"Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>news:oNGdnQn3gL01_2PX...@cablespeedmi.com...
>> "All the Tea in China Blue" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:chine.bleu-1005F...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> In article <Zf-dnbUTofOpWGDX...@giganews.com>,
>>> "Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> moot point...they already confessed. They said that they wanted to be
>>>
>>> If they plead guilty, it will be a short trial. What are you complaining
>>> abot?
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, at least in KSM's case, he was reportedly waterboarded about 180
>> times.
>>
>> His "confession", poisoned as it most likely is, might not even be
>> introduced.
>>
>> Holder sez he's confident that other evidence is enough to convict, and I
>> have no reason to disbelieve him, although KSM's trial may not be short.
>>
>> Jim
>***********
>Those terrorists sons of bitches should never be given the same
>constitutional rights as US citizens.

I don't think you should get any Constitutional rights you lying
little cocksucker. You clearly have no respect for our democratically
elected President, and no loyalty to this country. You're a traitor
wishing this country to fail rather than admit you've been wrong about
everything.

Clave

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"Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:oNGdnQn3gL01_2PX...@cablespeedmi.com...
>> "All the Tea in China Blue" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:chine.bleu-1005F...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> In article <Zf-dnbUTofOpWGDX...@giganews.com>,
>>> "Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> moot point...they already confessed. They said that they wanted to be
>>>
>>> If they plead guilty, it will be a short trial. What are you complaining
>>> abot?
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, at least in KSM's case, he was reportedly waterboarded about 180
>> times.
>>
>> His "confession", poisoned as it most likely is, might not even be
>> introduced.
>>
>> Holder sez he's confident that other evidence is enough to convict, and I
>> have no reason to disbelieve him, although KSM's trial may not be short.
>>
>> Jim
> ***********
> Those terrorists sons of bitches should never be given the same
> constitutional rights as US citizens.

Why do you hate America?

Why do you have so little confidence in our justice system?

Why are you such a fucking coward?

Jim


Major Debacle

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You don't need to surrender... you will be defeated.


> Dionysus
>
>
>
>
>


--

When asked, years afterward, why his charge at Gettysburg failed,
General Pickett said: "I've always thought the Yankees had something to
do with it."

Major Debacle

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What'er ya waitin' fer, tough guy?

Permission?

Bwahahahaha!!!


>
> No Surrender!

Dionysus

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**************
Why are you so eager to bend over and grab your ankles for our enemies?

No Surrender!

Dionysus
>
>

Clave

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"Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote in message
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Answer the question -- what about a real trial scares the pee out of you so?

Jim


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Topaz

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On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:27:16 GMT, "Grand Mal" <iron...@hotmail.com>
wrote:


>Hey, you could always move to Canada. All you have to do is promise not to
>shoot anyone and not to yodel when you sing.


I heard Izzy Asper died so the following article is outdated. But it
still gives a lot of insight on Canada.

By Dr. William Pierce

"As you may be aware, the mass media in
Canada are as much under Jewish control as in the United States. The
undisputed top media mogul in Canada is Israel Asper, who is commonly
known by his nickname "Izzy." With his sons Leonard and David and
other family members, Izzy Asper owns CanWest Global Communications
Corporation.

A Gentile, Conrad Black, also used to be a major player in the
Canadian media, but a little over a year ago Black's Southam News,
Inc., was bought out by Izzy. CanWest now owns more than 60 per cent
of Canada's newspapers and other media outlets. That's more than 60
per cent of all of Canada's mass media in the hands of one Jew.
Included are 14 metropolitan dailies and 128 local newspapers across
the country, including the Vancouver Sun, the Vancouver Province, the
Calgary Herald, and the Montreal Gazette. CanWest also owns the
National Post, which is distributed throughout Canada. In addition
Izzy owns media in the United States, Australia, New Zealand, and
Northern Ireland.

Last month Izzy issued a written directive to his newspapers,
instructing them that from now on they must print nothing critical of
Israel or of Israeli actions or policies. This is a rare thing.
Usually directives of this sort are oral only, and great care is taken
to keep them from coming to the attention of the public. But Izzy,
with even more brass than is customary for his tribe, made his
directive public. He announced that, beginning three weeks ago,
December 12, the editorial content of all of his newspapers would be
homogenized, and they all would be pro-Israel.

Now here's the interesting part: if all of Izzy's Gentile underlings
were simply corrupt-were simply paid mercenaries who wrote what they
were told to write-then there would be no controversy; all of the
local editors and reporters and columnists simply would follow orders.
But there is a controversy. A group of reporters and writers at the
Montreal Gazette have rebelled, at least for the moment. One of them,
Bill Marsden, an investigative reporter, revealed on a Canadian
Broadcasting Corporation radio program called "As It Happens" that his
editor at the Gazette had instructed him never to report anything that
might reflect badly on Israel. Paraphrasing Izzy's directive, Marsden
said, and I quote: "We do not run in our newspaper op-ed pieces that
express criticism of Israel and what it is doing in the Middle East."

Marsden and 54 other reporters at the Montreal Gazette went on strike
in protest at what they describe as undue corporate interference with
freedom of the press.

Their strike has infuriated Izzy. Izzy's son David characterized the
striking reporters as "childish" and "self-righteous." He said, and I
quote: "Why don't they just quit and have the courage of their
convictions? Maybe they should go out and, for the first time in their
lives, take a risk, put their money where their mouth is, and start
their own newspaper."

How's that for chutzpah, as the Jews like to call it? One can read in
David Asper's reaction to the reporters the thought, "How dare these
mere Gentiles, these mere goyim, question what we, God's Chosen
People, decide should be the party line for Canada's newspapers! How
dare they!" I mean it's not just that Izzy owns the Montreal Gazette,
and so he is entitled to set the editorial policy, and other
newspapers can set different policies. Izzy thinks that he is entitled
to set the editorial policy for all of Canada's newspapers and
determine what all Canadians think.

The man chosen by the Aspers to write the editorials for all of their
newspapers is Murdoch Davis. When asked by "As It Happens" whether or
not one of CanWest's newspapers would be permitted to buck the party
line on Israel, Davis replied, and I quote: "No. It is clearly the
intent that the newspapers will speak with one voice on certain issues
of overarching national or international importance."-end of quote --
When asked specifically whether or not one of the Asper newspapers
would be permitted to raise the question of Israel's long-standing
violation of international law and its defiance of UN resolutions
calling for withdrawal from illegally occupied Palestinian territory,
Davis again responded in the negative.

So that's the present situation with freedom of the press in Canada:
not really very different from the situation in the United States. So
what about the mentality of journalists? The fact that the reporters
at the Montreal Gazette are protesting Izzy's directive that they can
report nothing negative about Israel indicates that they are not
entirely mercenary. To me, however, it does not indicate that they are
independent thinkers. I believe that they are as much lemmings as the
dullest couch potato or sports fan. What caused their protest was the
arrogant and contemptuous way in which the Aspers went about
reconciling two conflicting elements in the Jewish party line.

On the one hand journalists have been taught that the United Nations
is a splendid and admirable organization, whose resolutions should be
obeyed. They also have been taught that all races and ethnic groups
are equal-in fact, essentially the same-but that racial minorities and
underdogs generally deserve our special sympathy, and that in any
conflict with a ruling group the underdogs are in the right. That's
standard liberal dogma. You have to believe that in order to be a
journalist. On the other hand, journalists have been taught that Jews
are wonderful people who can do no wrong, and that to think otherwise
is anti-Semitism, which is as bad as or worse than racism. It's hard
enough reconciling the elevated status of Jews with the concept of
racial and ethnic equality, but most journalists by working at it are
able to do it-except where the conflict between Jews and Palestinians
is concerned. That requires a special effort and really careful
handling by their Jewish bosses. How do you explain to a journalist
who already believes all of the liberal dogma that if Iraq ignores a
UN resolution it should be bombed into the Stone Age and then starved
into submission with a rigid trade embargo, but if Israel ignores 14
UN resolutions we should respond by sending the Israelis more military
and economic aid?

How do you explain to a journalist who has been taught that when South
Africa used to be a White country and practiced apartheid, and the
South African police sometimes beat information out of captured Black
terrorists, it was a terrible thing and had to be condemned in the
strongest terms, but when Israel practices apartheid, assassinates
Palestinian leaders, and tortures Palestinian prisoners, nothing
should be said about it?

How do you explain to a journalist that it is an intolerable threat to
the security of the world if some Muslim country develops weapons of
mass destruction, and the United States is justified in a preemptive
strike to destroy the weapons production facilities, but when a
psychotic little country like Israel builds an arsenal of chemical,
nuclear, and biological weapons, using materials and technology stolen
from us, it's OK, and we should ignore it?

How do you explain to a journalist steeped in the tenets of feminism
that he shouldn't say anything about Israel's booming slave trade in
girls and women kidnapped from eastern Europe and forced to work as
sex slaves?

How do you explain to a journalist who believes wholeheartedly in
egalitarianism that it's perhaps regrettable but certainly excusable
when Jews rocket Palestinian villages and use Palestinian children for
target practice, but it's "terrorism" and completely unjustifiable
when the Palestinians hit back?

Believe me, explaining these things is tricky, but it can be done, if
it's done with patience and care. It can be done, because when it
comes to matters of faith, a lemming really isn't rational. He's quite
capable of believing two mutually contradictory things at the same
time. The problem that brought on the mini-rebellion at the Montreal
Gazette is that Izzy wasn't patient and careful. He was arrogant and
contemptuous of his Gentile reporters. But they'll get over it, I'm
sure. They always do. They're lemmings.

But, as I said, what is happening now in Canada is interesting. It
gives us insight into the workings of journalists' minds, and it also
brings out into the open not only the monopoly Jewish control of the
Canadian mass media but also the way in which that control is used to
slant the news and Canadian public opinion so as to serve Jewish
interests to the detriment of Canadian interests.

Do you think that any of these revelations will be of benefit to
Canadians? Will the average Canadian say, "Oh, my goodness! I didn't
realize that one man, and a Jew at that, controls more than 60 per
cent of all the mass media in Canada and is using that control to
deceive Canadians as to what is happening in the Middle East. That's
terrible! We'd better have our lawmakers do something to break up this
media monopoly, so that we will have a better chance to learn the
truth about what's happening in the world when we read a newspaper or
watch a television news program."

What do you think? I think that about 98 per cent of Canadians won't
even look up from their ball games. I think that there's not a
politician in Canada who will dare go up against Izzy Asper. This
whole tempest at the Montreal Gazette will blow over in a few days,
and all of Izzy's newspapers and other media will toe the party line
as if nothing had happened.

And now I'm talking only to the two or three or four per cent of
Canadians-and also to the two or three or four per cent of
Americans-who aren't so absorbed in their ball games that they don't
notice things like this and don't really care either. I'm talking to
the small portion of the White population in both countries -- and in
fact, in countries around the world-who do notice and do care. I want
you to understand that this is the way nations lose their freedom.
More than that, this is the way races become extinct.

The majority of the population in Canada and the United States and in
every country in Europe consists of lemmings, who always have been
manipulated by whoever is in power. For approximately the last 100
years the power to manipulate the thinking of the lemmings-of the
masses, if you prefer-has been shifting from the authority figures in
the government and in the churches to the people who control the mass
media. These days the people who control the media also control the
government for all practical purposes, and the churches have become
irrelevant, which is why the Canadian government won't try to break up
Izzy's media monopoly and why the politicians in the United States
will never go beyond pretending to be concerned about too much sex and
violence on television when they have a mock fight with the media.
Controlling a country's mass media doesn't mean just being able to
exert a decisive influence on a country's foreign policy, as Izzy
Asper is doing in Canada, and as his fellow Jews long have done in the
United States. It doesn't mean just getting a country involved in
unnecessary wars and subjecting its citizens to retaliatory terrorist
attacks. It means influencing immigration policy. It means influencing
educational policy. It means influencing social policy. It means being
able to control the way most of a country's people think about
everything: about race and morality and lifestyles and other countries
and freedom and the meaning of life. Most of the degenerative changes
that have taken place in America and in Canada since the Second World
War have been consequences of Jewish media influence. As that
influence continues to grow, the chances of our people being able to
throw off the yoke and regain control of our own destiny become
smaller and smaller.

In Canada at the moment, Izzy Asper's surfeit of chutzpah has brought
to the attention of the public-that is to the attention of that small
portion of the public that cares about such things-his monopoly
control of Canada's mass media and his intent to use those media for
Jewish propaganda purposes. Light has been cast on this grave
situation because most journalists are lemmings, and a few of them are
chattering excitedly now about things such as "freedom of the press."
Really, the whole debate is silly. Canada had no freedom of the press
even before Izzy got his greedy hands on most of Canada's newspapers.
For years it has been illegal in Canada to publish anything considered
"racist" or "anti-Semitic" or even Politically Incorrect. When a
Canadian buys copies of any of my books and they are mailed to him,
the Canadian secret police confiscate them at the border. Publicly
challenging the details of the Jewish "Holocaust" story can result in
a prison term for a Canadian. Canada's journalists thought all of
that-stopping "hate," as they called it-was just fine. Pretty soon
they will realize that requiring all mass media to say only nice
things about what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians is also part
of the noble effort to stop "hate," and that also will be just fine
with them.

We can't change the nature of lemmings. Someone always will manipulate
them. What is of the utmost importance is who it is that manipulates
them, because whoever that is will determine the course taken by the
whole society, by the nation, by the race. In the past, when it was a
king or a pope or a dictator who set the party line, many mistakes
were made, sometimes due to selfishness or irresponsibility, sometimes
due to ignorance or carelessness or stupidity or prejudice. But at
least the people setting the party line for the masses were our
people, members of our own race. Now, increasingly, the arbiters of
the party line are Jews or people wholly under Jewish influence. And
the Jews, as always, are looking out only for their own interests, not
for ours. To them we are merely tools to be used in advancing their
interests.

And that's at best. At worst they are pursuing policies intended not
only to advance their interests, but also to destroy us. Don't try to
debate this matter with the Jews; they will, of course, deny it. Just
look at the policies they have been pushing for the past 50 years and
where those policies have been taking us. Just consider the facts, not
their specious arguments designed to keep you demoralized and
non-resisting.

My fellow Americans and my fellow Canadians: we are in a bad
situation. Let us stop ignoring it. Let us begin deciding what we're
going to do about it. I'm doing what I can do in speaking out about it
and getting others to speak out. You must decide what you are able and
willing to do and then begin doing it.

Dave Heil

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Topaz wrote:

> It's like white people all over the planet were each taking turns
> shooting themselves in the head with the same gun

Here, Toupee, your turn.

Dionysus

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***************
Well, they've not advertised for the position of executioner, but I'd
definitely consider it with these monsters...wouldn't even ask for employee
benefits, not even health and dental.

No surender!

Dionysus

Michael Ejercito

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It is hardly surprising that a shill for Adolf Hitler is also a
shill for Osama bin Laden.


Michael

Michael Ejercito

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On Nov 14, 8:37 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Culture is gene expression. If enough Mexicans inhabit any area on the
> planet, that area will look exactly like Mexico in short order.
>
So if enough Germans inhabit an area, there will be death camps?

If enough Russians inhabit an area, there will be gulags?


Michael

Grand Mal

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"Michael Ejercito" <meje...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 14, 8:37 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Culture is gene expression. If enough Mexicans inhabit any area on the
> planet, that area will look exactly like Mexico in short order.
>
- So if enough Germans inhabit an area, there will be death camps?

- If enough Russians inhabit an area, there will be gulags?


- Michael

If enough Republicans occupy an area, there will be trailer parks?


Michael Ejercito

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On Nov 16, 5:20 pm, "Grand Mal" <ironw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Michael Ejercito" <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
If enough Democrats occupy an area, there will be slums?


Michael

Topaz

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by James Buchanan

Let's say the Germans merely removed the Jews from positions of
political power and banned them from the legal profession. Germany
went from devastating economic poverty in 1932 to full employment just
a couple years later. If an incredible economic improvement can be
achieved, merely by removing the Jews from power (and replacing them
with patriotic nationalists), then every Gentile nation in the world
should give this a try.

Obviously the Jews don't want anyone else getting the idea of removing
them to create prosperity. The Jews control the mass media in most
Western countries. Most people don't know about the Balfour
Declaration. During World War One, Zionist Jews offered to use their
control of the press to bring America into World War One if Britain
would promise them Palestine. This offer was dubbed the Balfour
Declaration. If the Jews had enough media control and influence to
push America into World War One in 1917, what else have they done with
their power?

It was a huge embarrassment for the Jews to see Germany so prosperous
in the mid-1930s after removing them from power. They considered this
a dangerous precedent. To deal with this "problem" the Jewish World
Congress declared war on Germany in 1933. This declaration of war at
least encouraged a world-wide boycott against Germany and at worst
encouraged other nations of the world to become hostile toward
Germany. (The Jews curiously sanctioned the Germans before the Germans
passed any laws restricting the Jews.) More importantly the Jews
pushed vicious anti-German slander in all the Jewish-owned newspapers
in the West in the years leading up to World War Two. The Communist
mass murder of 30 million people in Russia and the Ukraine received
almost no publicity in the Jewish media. Most people in the West only
heard a serious mention of these Communist mass murders beginning in
the 1980s. Instead, the Jewish media focused all their hatred and
agitation against Germany and its allies.

After six years of relentless agitation, the Jews pushed England and
France into war with Germany. Only two years later, FDR and his cabal
of Jews provoked a war with Japan (and Germany).

Naturally, the Jews did not want future historians to say: "World War
Two was provoked by the Jewish media in retaliation for Germany
removing the Jews from power." The Jews needed a new reason for World
War Two. A reason that painted their enemies as unquestionably evil.
So they invented the Holocaust.

The Holocaust stood mostly unchallenged for decades after the war
because people feared being branded "Nazi-sympathizers" for
questioning its details. The truth always comes out in the long run.
Professor Arthur Butz published his famous work "The Hoax of the 20th
Century" in 1977 detailing a very solid argument against this war
propaganda. Dr. Butz pointed out that the world population of Jews
remained at about 16 million before and after the war. He also noted
that half a million Jews remained in Paris after four years of German
occupation. Both these facts strongly suggest the Holocaust is a
fraud, but the political power of the Jews has suppressed and punished
any public questioning of the Holocaust to this day. David Irving
joined the ranks of Revisionist historians several years ago and went
from a famous successful author to a pariah thanks to persecution by
the Jews.

The Institute for Historical Review has done great work exposing the
Holocaust as a great historical fraud. Anyone interested in looking
for historical truth should visit their website. It's a shock for many
people to see how much propaganda we've been force fed.

http://www.ihr.org

Michael Ejercito

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How does a Holocaust happen?

by Jeff Jacoby
The Boston Herald
March 30, 1992

http://www.jeffjacoby.com/5710/how-does-a-holocaust-happen


ONE DAY 16 OR 17 YEARS AGO, my father, who rarely blows up over
anything, lost his temper over a piece of bread.

It was lunchtime, and my siblings and I were goofing around at the
table. One of us, in play, threw a slice of bread at another. My
father exploded.

"What's the matter with you? That's food! Don't you ever let me see
you treat food like again!"

I remember being startled by his angry outburst. The words, however,
didn't really register. It wasn't until much later -- years later --
that I finally understood that flash of anger: To a man who has lived
through hunger, seen those around him die of starvation, nearly
starved to death himself -- to such a man, a piece of bread is not a
joke.

On Passover, which ended a few days ago, observant Jews do not eat
ordinary bread. Instead they eat matzo -- the dry, flat, unleavened
"bread of affliction" meant to remind them of their forebears'
deliverance from slavery in Egypt. At the ceremonial Passover meal,
they read aloud from the Haggadah, which tells the story of the
Exodus:

For in every single generation generation, they rise against us to
annihilate us.

In all the generations of Jewish history, never did "they" come as
close to succeeding as the Germans did in this very century, one brief
generation ago.

On the last day of Passover in 1944, the Nazis arrived in my father's
village of Legina -- a microscopic dot in the Slovak countryside, hard
by the border with Hungary. The knock on the Jakubovices' window came
on a Sunday morning before daybreak; like Legina's other Jews, they
were ordered to gather their things and be ready to leave in half an
hour's time. They were put on horse-drawn wagons and carried to
Satoraljaujhely ("Ujhely" for short), a large Hungarian town a few
miles away.

For six weeks, they stayed in Ujhely's Jewish ghetto, which grew
increasingly crowded as Jews from all over the region were brought in.

After a month, the transports began. A tenth of the ghetto's
population was removed at a time; my father and his family were taken
away in the third transport. On a Thursday, with only the belongings
they could carry by hand, they and 3,000 other Jews were marched
through the streets to the train station -- to the waiting boxcars. As
each car filled, its doors were chained and padlocked.

They were bound for a place called Auschwitz.

The train heading north into Poland, my father assumed, was taking him
and his family and the other Jews who'd been corralled into Ujhely to
a work site somewhere.

How could he have known otherwise?

How could he have guessed that he and all those boxcars crammed with
Jews were just a tiny fragment of the vast works that had been
constructed to annihilate the Jews of Europe? How could he have
understood that all over the continent, Jews by the millions were
being uprooted from their homelands -- lands, in some cases, where
Jews had dwelled for 900 years -- to be sent to special killing
grounds where all the science, industry, and manpower at Germany's
command would be pooled for purposes of quickly and efficiently
exterminating them? How could he have imagined that the world would
allow this horror to take place -- a horror so unprecedented that a
new word, genocide, had to be invented to contain it? How could he
have dreamed that in less than seven years, two out of every three
Jews in Europe would be a corpse, or the ashes of a corpse?

The train out of Ujhely moved for three days. It stopped early on a
Sunday morning, six weeks exactly since that knock on the window in
Legina. The doors were unchained. Suddenly there were screaming
guards, barking dogs, floodlights. The boxcar opened onto a ramp, at
the top of which a man with a crop in his hand waved people to the
right and to the left.

My grandparents, David and Leah Jakubovic, were waved to the right. So
were their 10-year-old son, Yrvin, and 8-year-old daughter, Alice.
They died in the gas chamber that day.

My father's teen-aged brother, Zoltan, was gassed a few days later.
His sister Franceska suffered horribly for a while; she died the
following spring.

Somehow my father survived Auschwitz, the death march to Mauthausen,
the camps at Melk and Ebensee. Somehow he survived the typhoid fever,
the unstoppable diarrhea, the starvation that reduced him -- at 19
years of age -- to 65 pounds.

I cannot explain the miracle of his survival, let alone the fact that
he can still laugh, and love. That was -- is -- God's doing.

But the Holocaust was man's. The Germans could get away with
systematically butchering 6 million Jews because good men and women,
through their indifference, let them get away with it.

For in every single generation generation, they rise against us to
annihilate us.

Today is Holocaust Remembrance Day, a part of the struggle against
indifference, a reminder that what could never happen has happened.

And can again.

For only one thing can stop a holocaust: memory. On this one day, at
least, let us remember the millions of innocents who died, and honor
the few who survived. But above all let us reflect, if only briefly,
that in the end nothing can shield us from the building of a new
Auschwitz except our undimmed rage at the old Auschwitz.

(Jeff Jacoby is the Boston Herald's chief editorial writer.)

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Michael Ejercito

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On Nov 17, 7:33 am, Once in a China Blue Moon <chine.b...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> In article <17d8a648-2314-42a1-8a23-6b49a83eb...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> How many Republicans live in Silicon Valley? How about Redmond?
Or Detroit, Michigan, or Camden, New Jersey?

Or Chicago, Illinois?


Michael

Topaz

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The Holocaust Cowing and Milking of Nations By Alex Linder

'Holocaust': The Means by Which the Richest Group in the World
Contrives to Cow and Milk the Rest of the Us in the Guise of Victims
who are Persecuted and Due Eternal Restitution.

Reading through a thousand blog reactions to Duke v Blitzer on CNN, a
generalization crystallizes. People confuse being told something six
million times with knowing something. They are not the same. "It ain't
what you don't know, it's what you know that just ain't so." The
average man 'knows' the Holocaust exists because:

1) everybody uses the term;
2) he has seen photos of stacked bodies;
3) he has read Anne Frank's book;
4) authorities agree that questioning any of this is 'hate.'

In other words, the average man believes in the Holocaust for no
logical reason, but out of simple mammalian conformity.
'Holocaust' is a loaded, dishonest term. You can't debate with
undefined terms without making a joke of yourself, but the average man
does not realize this. It is the part of public school, reinforced by
mass media, to disable his thinking so that he's worse positioned to
defend himself because he can't understand how he is manipulated to
accept the illogical. Debate in the mass media of a democracy is
nothing but the shuffling of loaded terms.

'Holocaust' is no ordinary noun. Rather, it is a loaded gun leveled at
the head of the West and the rest. Give them their money and their
pride of place or get your head and reputation blown off. You will
notice that never, ever does debate in the captive media condescend to
deconstruct the Zionist Privilege embodied in and sanctified by the
designer label 'Holocaust.' Worship the Zionists and submit to their
demands - that is what the term Holocaust means.

A demand for special privilege protected by a shell of pseudo-history;
that is an objective description of the term. The heart of the
'Holocaust,' taking at face value the term's pretension to historical
designation, is the claim that six million Jews were murdered by Nazi
Germany, most of them by gassing. The evidence for the gassing is
never discussed. Photos of crematories and bodies stacked like cord
wood are shown. No context or explanation of the reason for showing
them is given. The connection is to be assumed. But never is any
ordinary evidence, let alone proof, of the gassing allegation
advanced. That Jews were gassed is treated as though it were already
proved and therefore unquestionable, save by the depraved. Thus, the
practical job of the media and the well intentioned everyman is to
smear and ostracize anybody who argues against settled truth. We all
know that Jews were gassed, and that those who say otherwise are
deniers driven by hate. But it ain't so just because "everybody knows"
it is.

We are told repeatedly that the 'Holocaust' is both the worst thing
that ever happened and the best documented thing in human history. We
are to take these assertions on authority, since no genuine debate is
allowed.

There are men who can prove the 'Holocaust' is a Big Lie. You can find
them in jail. Their imprisonment is scarcely mentioned in the mass
media. Their imprisonment goes unlamented by the mass columnists. To
discuss these men and their work would endanger the Propa-sphere the
media construct. They must disappear. But we know, mass media. And
we're not going away. We're getting louder and stronger. And there's
nothing you can do to stop us.

Topaz

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Franklin Roosevelt did some things to help people. But he didn't
really upset the money bag parasites who rule over us. Only Hitler did
that.


Here is a quote from a very pro-Jewish book that was first
published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
Browne.

"The Jews had become the money lenders of Europe for quite
evident reasons. The Church sternly forbade all Christians to engage
in the pursuit...
"So the Jews became the money lenders of Europe. They developed
a great shrewdness and cunning in the one and only field of
opportunity left open to them. And with their shrewdness and cunning
they developed a certain cruelty and greed. That was natural. The
world was cruel to them, so when the chance was theirs, they were
cruel in return..."

The money system we have today is called the debt-money
system. It is evil and needs to be replaced. The only way money comes
into existence today is when it is borrowed. There is no freely
existing money supply, but only borrowed money that needs to be paid
back to bankers with interest. If all the money that was owed to
bankers was ever paid back there would be no money left in circulation
and this would be a great depression. What makes matters even worse is
that when money is created only the principle of the loan is created.
The money needed to pay the interest is never created. For this reason
it is impossible to pay back the principle plus the interest on all of
the loans that make up our money supply. The extra amount of money
needed to pay the interest was never created and does not exist.

The United States government borrows money from the Federal
Reserve Bank. This bank is not federal but owned by private
stockholders. It is in the business section of the phone book, not the
government section. Other banks also create the money in our money
supply. They are allowed to loan out much more money then they
actually have. Thus they create new money. No one else is allowed to
create money, only bankers have this privilege. All of our money is
debt-money and it is all owed back to bankers, plus the interest.

In the U.S.A. money is created by the Bureau of Engraving and
Printing which is a unit of the treasury, but the orders to print come
from the Federal Reserve Banks. The money is created for and owned by
the banks. And the Federal Reserve Banks are not Federal, in spite of
the name. Privately owned commercial banks own the stock of the
Federal Reserve Banks. The Federal Reserve Banks give the newly
created money to the government in exchange for government bonds. To
simplify: The United States does not make its own money. Bankers
create the money and loan it to the United States with an interest
charge.

The book War Cycles Peace Cycles puts it this way:

"If there is only $10 in existence, and you lend it to someone
under the condition that he repay $11, and if he agrees to this, he
has agreed to the impossible."

The book The Struggle for World Power put it this way:

"The Bank of England... was the first payment institution which
was legally empowered to issue state-authorized paper currency and ,
therefore, the Government itself became its debtor. Thus the State not
only renounced its monopoly on monetary emission, but also agreed to
borrow the privately-created money from the bankers...Not only the
thing being done, but even the very name was a deliberate fraud and
deception to conceal the essence of the deed. To create money out of
nothing is to make valid and effective claim on all goods and services
for no return, which is fraud and theft, made worse by the
circumstances that the money is lent out at interest...it follows that
those who have the power to 'create' out of nothing all the money in
each country and the whole world and lend it as stated, have total
power over all states, parties, firms, radio, press, individuals and
so on. Therefore the power of Parliament in general, and especially
with regard to money, is non-existent, and all the true sovereignty is
in the hands of those private individuals who issue all money"

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On Nov 13, 12:44 pm, "Dionysus" <no.surren...@never.net> wrote:
> FROM THE LID
>
> HEAD: Terror Trial Move Designed to Create an American Nuremberg: Bush
> Administration Will Be The Real Defendant

So... do you fear that Bush administration criminalities will be
revealed?

If so... Why do you fear that Bush administration crimes will be
revealed?


Michael Ejercito

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A suspension of barbarity

by Jeff Jacoby
The Boston Globe
April 27, 1995

http://www.jeffjacoby.com/4096/a-suspension-of-barbarity

FIFTY YEARS AGO, they keep saying. Fifty years ago, Auschwitz was
liberated. Fifty years ago, the Nazis were defeated. Fifty years ago,
the survivors emerged from the ash and bones and hell of the death
camps. Fifty years ago, the world, sickened to discover how
unspeakably deep and black was the abyss into which one of the most
cultured nations on earth had systematically ground up 6 million Jews,
swore: Never again. Fifty years ago, the Holocaust ended.

Fifty years ago.

Ended?

In the Cleveland synagogue I grew up in, there was a woman named
Esther, a survivor of the camps. Over the years I watched her mind
slowly disassemble, pulled apart by memories too violent to endure.
She would burst into shouts during the rabbi's sermon and madly rush
to kiss the Torah scroll as it was carried to the ark. When charity
appeals were made from the pulpit, she would wave in the air, of all
things, Czechoslovak stamps, crying out that she had something of
great value to donate. I got hold of one of those stamps once and
looked it up in a catalog. It was worthless.

When, exactly, did the Holocaust end for Esther?

In the same synagogue was a man called B--, an envelope maker who had
no children and who we all somehow knew never would. What B-- lost in
the camps wasn't his life, but something even more precious: all hope
of giving life. During the war, he had been sterilized in one of Dr.
Mengele's sadistic experiments.

When did his Holocaust end?

When did my father's?

On May 7, 1945, the concentration camp at Ebensee, an Austrian town
between Linz and Salzburg, was abandoned by its Nazi guards. Among the
Jews not yet dead in that place was my father. He was 19 years old, he
weighed 65 pounds, and he was nearly gone with starvation and typhoid
fever. Thirteen months and three camps earlier, on his first day in
Auschwitz, he had seen his parents sent to the gas chamber, along with
his 10-year-old brother Yrvin and his little sister Alice, who was 8.
My father's teen-age brother Zoltan was murdered a few days later; his
older sister Franceska by the following spring.

When the Nazis fled Ebensee on that May morning 50 years ago, my
father was left with nothing but the rags he was wearing and a
greenish-blue tattoo on his arm: A-10502.

And feelings of guilt that have lasted for decades.

"I had dreams and nightmares about what happened," he said to me once.
"I always feel sort of guilty, even until now, about not protecting my
younger brother. I was with him together for a just a few hours; then
we were separated. I wonder -- could I have insisted that he stay with
me? I don't know. Coming from a farm, I was naive. I was not
sophisticated."

Between 1940 and 1945, it was a central aim of the German Reich to
exterminate every Jew in Europe -- to bring about, once and for all, a
"Final Solution" to the Jewish "problem." To carry out this policy,
which was given a higher priority than even the war effort, the Nazis
constructed a vast and elaborate machinery, employing tens of
thousands of people and requiring the most detailed and complicated
logistics. It was an industry whose raw material was Jews, which it
imported from lands as far-flung as Greece and Norway, and whose final
product was Jewish corpses, or the greasy smoke of Jewish corpses. To
ensure its success, the Nazis drew on all the resources of wealth,
science, engineering, transportation and manpower at their command.

And my father has felt guilty for 50 years because he didn't know how
to save his brother.

Has his Holocaust ended?

I mistrust this number, this 50. It seems too definitive a milestone,
too complete, too over-and-done-with. When I hear the words "ended 50
years ago," it seems to me I also hear: "Enough already." "Let it go."
"It's history."

Is it?

On an NPR broadcast two weeks ago, an articulate skinhead named Tracy
Gilson was asked why he has Hitler's face tattooed on his neck.

"The Holocaust," replied the young man, who became a skinhead at 13.
"You know what? If it did happen, good. I don't care. I'm glad. I
really -- that's good. That's great. Swell, good. Kill 6 million more,
somebody, please. . . . I wish somebody would do that here, freakin'
decide that they need to get rid of all the trash and start building
death camps. That would be fine with me."

The Holocaust didn't end 50 years ago; it was only suspended. What
separates us from 8-year-old girls gulping death in gas chambers is
nothing more than a thin veneer of civilization, stretched like a
bandage over a bleeding wound, capable of being stripped away in a
twinkling. Germany is the land of Bach and Durer and Goethe, after
all. Yet how readily it became the land of Buchenwald and crematoria
and pits filled with naked, machine-gunned Jews.

There is nothing so evil, so demonic, that people cannot be induced to
do it, or to look the other way while it is being done. Not only storm
troops and skinheads. Nice people. Cultured people. People like us.

Fifty years ago, the Holocaust was suspended. How long it stays
suspended depends on how long we remember to never forget. Fifty years
after the spring of 1945, when even those who survived are almost all
gone and wildflowers grow where dead parents and dead children were
once piled high, we need to remember more urgently than ever.

(Jeff Jacoby is a columnist for The Boston Globe.)

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During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
political opponents and for less reason. At the end of the war there
was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.

Newsweek magazine May 15, 1989 says on page 64:

"the way the Nazis did things: the secrecy, the unwritten orders, the
destruction of records and the innocent-sounding code names for the
extermination of the Jews. Perhaps it was inevitable that historians
would quarrel over just what happened"

The real reason there are no records of an extermination plan is
because there was no extermination plan. The Germans planned to deport
the Jews out of Germany. The records show that they planned to move
them to Madagascar.

Here is part of the Leuchter Report:

"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
testing of the control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050
mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
respect that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
stable iron-cyanide complex.

"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
out in Table III.

"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
few that were positive were very close to the detection level
(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absence
of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
all these facilities"

Professional holocaust believers have admitted that the "gas chamber"
which is shown to the tourists at Auschwitz was actually built by the
allies after the war was over. This is what they wrote:
Brian Harmon <har...@msg.ucsf.edu> wrote in article
<080620000051136373%har...@msg.ucsf.edu>...
"You're confusing Krema I with Kremas II-V. Krema I is a
reconstruction, this has never been a secret. Kremas II-V are in
their demolished state as they were left."
Charles Don Hall <cdhall...@erols.com> wrote in article
<8F4CB71B...@news.erols.com>...
"Certainly not! The word "fake" implies a deliberate attempt to
deceive.
"The staff of the Auschwitz museum will readily explain that the Nazis
tried to destroy the gas chambers in a futile attempt to conceal their
crimes. And they'll tell you that reconstruction was done later on. So
it would be dishonest for me to call it a "fake". I'll cheerfully
admit that it's a "reconstruction" if that makes you happy."
They admit that the "gas chamber" shown to the tourists at Auschwitz
was built by the allies after the war was over. There is no physical
evidence that the Germans had gas chambers. No bodies of people who
died from gas have been found. The Communists were the first to enter
the camps. How do the other allies know the Communists didn't blow up
the buildings? Then they could claim that these demolished buildings
used to be gas chambers.

But then the believers will say the Germans confessed. Their main
confession is from Hoess. Here are the details:
"In the introduction to Death Dealer [Buffalo: Prometheus, 1992], the
historian Steven Paskuly wrote: "Just after his capture in 1946, the
British Security Police were able to extract a statement from Hoess by
beating him and filling him with liquor." Paskuly was reiterating what
Rupert Butler and Bernard Clarke had already described.
In 1983, Rupert Butler published an unabashed memoir (Legions of
Death, Hamlyn: London) describing in graphic detail how, over three
days, he and Clarke and other British policemen managed to torture
Hoess into making a "coherent statement." According to Butler [Legions
of Death, p. 237], he and the other interrogators put the boots to
Hoess the moment he was captured. For starters, Clarke struck his face
four times to get H�ess to reveal his true identity.
<quote>
The admission suddenly unleashed the loathing of Jewish sergeants in
the arresting party whose parents had died in Auschwitz following an
order signed by H�ss.

The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pajamas ripped from his
body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where
it seemed to Clarke the blows and screams were endless.
Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: "Call them off,
unless you want to take back a corpse."

A blanket was thrown over H�ss and he was dragged to Clarke's car,
where the sergeant poured a substantial slug of whisky down his
throat. H�ss tried to sleep.

Clarke thrust his service stick under the man's eyelids and ordered in
Geffnan: "Keep your pig eyes open, you swine."

For the first time H�ss trotted out his oft-repeated justification: "I
took my orders from Himmler. I was a soldier in the same way as you
are a soldier and we had to obey orders."

The party arrived back at Heide around three in the morning. The snow
was swirling still, but the blanket was torn from H�ss and he was made
to walk completely nude through the prison yard to his cell.
</quote>

An article in the British newspaper Wrexham Leader [Mike Mason, "In a
cell with a Nazi war criminal-We kept him awake until he confessed,"
October 17, 1986] following the airing of a TV documentary on the case
of Rudolf Hoess included eyewitness recollections by Ken Jones:
<quote>

Mr. Ken Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery
stationed at Heid[e] in Schleswig-Holstein. "They brought him to us
when he refused to cooperate over questioning about his activities
during the war. He came in the winter of 1945/6 and was put in a
small jail cell in the barracks," recalls Mr. Jones. Two other
soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join H�ss in his cell to help
break him down for interrogation. "We sat in the cell with him, night
and day, armed with axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time
he fell asleep to help break down his resistance," said Mr. Jones.
When H�ss was taken out for exercise he was made
to wear only jeans and a cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three
days and nights without sleep, H�ss finally broke down and made a full
confession to the authorities.
</quote>

The confession Hoess signed was numbered document NO-1210; later
revamped, as document PS-3868, which became the basis for an oral
deposition Hoess made for the IMT on April 15, 1946, a month after it
had been extracted from him by torture...

Since what people confess to after they have been captured by the
Communists and their liberal comrades is not proof of anything, this
leaves only the stories of survivors. These contradict each other and
not believable. One professional survivor said that he could tell if
the Germans were gassing German Jews or Polish Jews by the color of
the smoke.

The fact that there are so many "survivors" is not proof of an
extermination plan. There may be six million survivors. Just about
every Jew that is old says he is a survivor.

The real "holocaust" was when the Communist Jews murdered millions of
Christians. Communism was Jewish. Here is proof:

Article Winston Churchill wrote in 1920:
"This movement amongst the Jews (the Russian Revolution) is not new.
From the days of Spartacus Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down
to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kuhn (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany)
and Emma Goldman (United States), this world wide conspiracy for the
overthrow of civilization and the reconstruction of society on the
basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible
equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer,
Mrs. Nesta Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part
in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at
last this band of extraordinary personalities has gripped the Russian
people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the
undisputed masters of that enormous empire. There is no need to
exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the
actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international
and for the most part atheistic Jews. Moreover, the principal
inspiration and driving power comes from Jewish leaders." (ibid)

Lev Trotzky wrote a book called "Stalin: An Appraisal of the Man and
His Influence", Harper Bros., New York and London, 1941, translated by
Charles Malamuth.

In this book he told who the principle members of the October Central
Committee were. This group was the leadership of the Bolshevik Party
during the October Revolution. This is what he wrote:

"In view of the Party's semi-legality the names of persons elected by
secret ballot were not announced at the Congress, with the exception
of the four who had received the largest number of votes. Lenin--133
out of a possible 134, Zinoviev--132, Kamenev--131, Trotzky--131."

Of these four top leaders of the Bolshevik Party the last three were
known Jews. Lenin was thought to be a gentile married to a Jewess. It
was later proven that he was one quarter Jewish, London Jewish
Chronicle April 21, 1995, Lenin: Life and Legacy.

David Francis, the American Ambassador to Russia at the time of the
Revolution, wrote:

"The Bolshevic leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of
whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country
but are internationalists and they are trying to start a world-wide
revolution."

The Director of British Intelligence to the U.S. Secretary of State
wrote this:

"There is now definite evidence that Bolshevism is an international
movement controlled by Jews."

In 1945 the FBI arrested six individuals for stealing 1700 highly
confidential documents from State Department files. This was the
Amerasia case they were:

Philip Jaffe, a Russian Jew who came to the U.S. in 1905. He was at
one time the editor of the communist paper "Labor Defense" and the
ringleader of the group arrested.
Andrew Roth, a Jew.
Mark Gayn, a Jew, changed his name from Julius Ginsberg.
John Service, a gentile.
Emmanuel Larsen, nationality unknown
Kate Mitchel, nationality unknown.
In 1949 the Jewess Judith Coplin was caught passing classified
documents from Justice Department files to a Russian agent.

The highest ranking communist brought to trial in the U.S. was Gerhart
Eisler. He was a Jew. He was the secret boss of the Communist Party
in the U.S. and commuted regularly between the U.S. and Russia.

In 1950 there was the "Hollywood Ten" case. Ten leading film writers
of the Hollywood Film Colony were convicted for contempt of Congress
and sentenced to prison. Nine of the ten were Jews. Six of the ten
were communist party members and the other four were flagrantly
pro-communist.

One of the top new stories of 1949 was the trial of Eugene Dennis and
the Convicted Eleven. This group comprised the National Secretariat of
the American Communist Party. Six were Jews, two gentiles, three
nationality unknown.

Also in 1949 the German-born atomic scientist Klaus Fuchs was
convicted for passing atomic secrets to the Russians. Acting on
information obtained from Fuchs the FBI arrested nine other members of
the ring. All of them were convicted. Eight of the nine were Jews.

Here are some quotes from a very pro-Jewish book that was first


published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
Browne.

"But save for such exceptions, the Jews who led or participated in the
heroic efforts to remold the world of the last century, were neither
Reform or Orthodox. Indeed, they were often not professing Jews at
all.
"For instance, there was Heinrich Heine and Ludwig Borne, both
unfaltering champions of freedom. And even more conspicuously, there
was Karl Marx, one of the great prophetic geniuses of modern times.
"Jewish historians rarely mention the name of this man, Karl Marx,
though in his life and spirit he was far truer to the mission of
Israel than most of those who were forever talking of it. He was born
in Germany in 1818, and belonged to an old rabbinic family. He was not
himself reared as a Jew, however, but while still a child was baptized
a Christian by his father. Yet the rebel soul of the Jew flamed in him
throughout his days, for he was always a 'troubler' in Europe."
"Then, of course, there are Ludwig Borne and Heinrich Heine, two men
who by their merciless wit and sarcasm became leaders among the
revolutionary writers. Karl Marx, Ferdinand Lassalle, Johann Jacoby,
Gabriel Riesser, Adolphe Cremieux, Signora Nathan- all these of Jewish
lineage played important roles in the struggle that went throughout
Europe in this period. Wherever the war for human liberty was being
waged, whether in France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, or Italy, there
the Jew was to be found. It was little wonder that the enemies of
social progress, the monarchists and the Churchmen, came to speak of
the whole liberal movement as nothing but a Jewish plot."

The book "Soviet Russia and the Jews" by Gregor Aronson and published
by the American Jewish League Against Communism, quotes Stalin in an
interview in 1931 with the Jewish Telegraph Agency. Stalin said:

"...Communists cannot be anything but outspoken enemies of
Anti-Semitism. We fight anti-Semites by the strongest methods in the
Soviet Union. Active anti-Semites are punished by death under the
law."

The following quotes are taken directly from documents available from
the U.S. Archives:
State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominent in local Soviet
government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."

State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."

From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomery Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
beginning, guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type" type."

A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here
were 384 'commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
Imperial Government.

The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."

"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920 "In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the
membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews
comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population." (Stuart Kahan,
The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)

Interestingly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:
"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:
"Making an effort to overcome my natural reluctance, I tried to read
articles of this nature published in the Marxist Press; but in doing
so my aversion increased all the more. And then I set about learning
something of the people who wrote and published this mischievous
stuff. From the publisher downwards, all of them were Jews. I
recalled to mind the names of the public leaders of Marxism, and then
I realized that most of them belonged to the Chosen Race- the Social
Democratic representatives in the Imperial Cabinet as well as the
secretaries if the Trades Unions and the street agitators. Everywhere
the same sinister picture presented itself. I shall never forget the
row of names- Austerlitz, David, Adler, Ellonbogen, and others. One
fact became quite evident to me. It was that this alien race held in
its hands the leadership of that Social Democratic Party with whose
minor representatives I had been disputing for months past."

Solzhenitsyn named in his book the six top administrators of the
Soviet death camps. All six of them were Jews.

Here is something the National Socialists wrote:
"The Soviet Union was in fact a paradise for one group: the Jews. Even
at times when for foreign policy reasons Jews were less evident in the
government, or when they ruled through straw men, the Jews were always
visible in the middle and lower levels of the administration."

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By Faurisson

The Unraveling of the Witnesses at the First Z�ndel Trial (1985)

The important victory won by revisionism in France on April 26, 1983,
would go on to confirm itself in 1985 with the first Z�ndel trial in
Toronto. I would like to dwell a moment on this trial in order to
underscore the impact on one's point of view, and especially as far as
the testimonies on the Auschwitz gas chambers are concerned: for the
first time since the war, Jewish witnesses were subjected to a regular
cross-examination. Moreover, without wanting to minimize the
importance of the second Z�ndel trial (that of 1988), I should like it
to be understood that the 1985 trial already contained the seeds for
all that was attained in the 1988 trial, including the report by
Leuchter and all the scientific reports which, in the aftermath, would
proliferate in the wake of the Leuchter Report.

In 1985, as also afterwards in 1988, I served as advisor to Ernst
Z�ndel and his lawyer, Douglas Christie. I accepted this heavy
responsibility only under condition that all the Jewish witnesses
would, for the first time, be cross-examined on the material nature of
the reported facts, bluntly and without discretion. I had noted, in
effect, that from 1945 to 1985, Jewish witnesses had been granted
virtual immunity. Never had any defense lawyer thought or dared to ask
them for material explanations about the gas chambers (exact location,
physical appearance, dimensions, internal and external structure), or
about the homicidal gassing (the operational procedure from beginning
to end, the tools employed, the precautions taken by the executioners
before, during and after execution).

On rare occasions, as at the trial of Tesch, Drosihn and
Weinbacher,[5] lawyers formulated some unusual questions of a material
nature, hardly troublesome for the witness, but these always found
themselves on the fringes of the more fundamental questions which
should have been asked. No lawyer ever demanded clarifications on a
weapon which, indeed, he had never seen and that no one had ever shown
him. At the major Nuremberg Trial of 1945-46, the German lawyers had
manifested total discretion on this point. At the proceedings against
Eichmann in Jerusalem in 1961, the lawyer Dr. Robert Servatius had not
wanted to raise the question; in a letter on this subject dated June
21, 1974, he wrote me: "Eichmann hat selbst keine Gaskammer gesehen;
die Frage wurde nicht diskutiert; er hat sich aber auch nicht gegen
deren Existenz gewandt" [Eichmann himself had not seen any gas
chamber; the question was not discussed; but neither did he raise the
issue of their existence].[6]

At the Frankfurt Trial of 1963-65, the lawyers showed themselves to be
particularly timid. I should mention that the atmosphere was rather
inhospitable for the defense and the accused. This show trial will
remain as a blot on the honor of German justice as on the person of
Hans Hofmeyer, initially Landgerichtsdirektor, then Senatspr�sident.
During more than 180 sessions, the judges and juries, the public
prosecutors and the private parties, the accused and their attorneys,
as well as the journalists who had come from around the world,
accepted as a complete physical representation of the 'crime weapon' a
mere map of the camp of Auschwitz and a map of the camp of Birkenau,
whereupon five minuscule geometric figures were inscribed for the
location of each of the alleged homicidal gas chambers, with the
words, for Auschwitz: "Altes Krematorium", and for Birkenau:
"Krematorium II", "Krematorium III", "Krematorium IV", and
"Krematorium V"! These maps[7] were displayed in the courtroom.

The Revisionists have often compared the Frankfurt trial with the
1450-1650 trials against witchcraft. Nevertheless, at least during
those trials, someone sometimes bothered to describe or depict the
witches' sabbath. At the Frankfurt trial, even among the lawyers who
made difficulties for a witness like Filip M�ller, not one asked of a
Jewish witness or a repentant German defendant to describe for him in
greater detail what he was purported to have seen. Despite two
judicial visits to the scene of the crime at Auschwitz, accompanied by
some German lawyers, it seems not one of the latter insisted on any
technical explanations or criminological expertise regarding the
murder weapon. To the contrary, one of them, Anton Reiners, a
Frankfurt lawyer, pushed complacency to the point of having himself
photographed by the press while raising the chute cover by which the
SS supposedly sprinkled Zyklon B granules into the alleged Auschwitz
gas chamber.

And so at Toronto in 1985, I had fully decided to do away with these
anomalies, to break the taboo and, for starters, pose, or rather have
Douglas Christie pose, questions to the experts and Jewish witnesses
as one normally poses in every trial where one is supposed to
establish whether a crime has been committed and, if so, by whom, how
and when.

Fortunately for me, Ernst Z�ndel accepted my conditions and Douglas
Christie consented to adopt this course of action and to pose to the
experts and witnesses the questions that I would prepare for him. I
was convinced that, in this manner, all might change, and the veil
woven by so many false testimonies could be torn away. While I was not
counting on Ernst Z�ndel's acquittal and we were all resigned to
paying the price for our audacity, I nevertheless had hope that with
the aid of this far-sighted man of character, and thanks to his
intrepid lawyer, history, if not justice, would at last carry him into
historical prominence.

From the moment of the first cross-examination, a tremor of panic
began to creep its way amid the ranks of the prosecution. Every
evening and throughout most of the night, I would prepare the
questions to ask. In the morning, I would turn over these questions,
accompanied by the necessary documents, to lawyer Doug Christie who,
for his part and with the aid of his female collaborator, conducted
the essentially legal aspects of the effort. During the
cross-examinations, I maintained a position close to the lawyer's
podium and unremittingly furnished, on yellow notepads, supplementary
and improvisational questions according to the experts' and witnesses'
responses.

The expert cited by the prosecution was Dr. Raul Hilberg, author of
The Destruction of European Jews. Day after day, he was subjected to
such humiliation that, when solicited in 1988 by a new prosecutor for
a new trial against Ernst Z�ndel, Prof. Hilberg refused to return to
give witness; he explained the motive for his refusal in a
confidential letter wherein he acknowledged his fear of having to once
again confront the questions of Douglas Christie. From the
cross-examination of Dr. Raul Hilberg, it was definitively brought out
that no one possessed any proof for the existence either of an order,
a plan, an instruction, or a budget for the presumed physical
extermination of the Jews. Furthermore, no one possessed either an
expertise of the murder weapon (whether gas chamber or gas van), or an
autopsy report establishing the murder of a detainee by poison gas.
However, in the absence of evidence regarding the weapon and victim,
did there exist witnesses of the crime?

A testimony must always be verified. The usual first means of
proceeding to this verification is to confront the assertions of the
witness with the results of investigations or expert opinion regarding
the material nature of the crime. In the case at hand, there were
neither investigations, nor expertise relative to the alleged
Auschwitz gas chambers. Here is what made any cross-examination
difficult. Yet, this difficulty should not serve as an excuse, and one
might even say that a cross-examination becomes ever more
indispensable because, without it, there no longer remains any way of
knowing whether the witness is telling the truth or not.

Jewish Witnesses Finally Cross-Examined:
Arnold Friedman and Dr. Rudolf Vrba

For those persons interested in the technical and documentary means by
which we were nevertheless in a position to severely cross-examine the
two principal Jewish witnesses, Arnold Friedman and Dr. Rudolf Vrba, I
can do no better than to recommend a reading of the trial
transcript.[8] Pages 304-371 cover the questioning and
cross-examination of Arnold Friedman; the latter breaks down on pages
445-446 when he ends by acknowledging that he in fact saw nothing,
that he had spoken from hearsay because, according to him, he had met
persons who were convincing; perhaps, he added, he would have adopted
the position of Mr. Christie rather than that of these other persons
if only Mr. Christie had been able to tell him back then what he was
telling him now!

Dr. Vrba was a witness of exceptional importance. One might even say
about this trial in Toronto that the prosecution had found the means
of recruiting 'Holocaust' expert number one in the person of Dr. Raul
Hilberg, and witness number one in the person of Dr. Rudolf Vrba. The
testimony of this latter gentleman had been one of the principal
sources of the famous War Refugee Board Report on the German
Extermination Camps - Auschwitz and Birkenau, published in November
1944 by the Executive Office of President Roosevelt. Dr. R. Vrba was
also the author of I Cannot Forgive,[9] written in collaboration with
Alan Bestic who, in his preface, declares with regard to him:

"Indeed I would like to pay tribute to him for the immense trouble he
took over every detail; for the meticulous, almost fanatical respect
he revealed for accuracy." (p.2).

,Never perhaps, had a court of justice seen a witness express himself
with more assurance on the Auschwitz gas chambers. Yet, by the end of
the cross-examination, the situation had reversed itself to the point
where Dr. R. Vrba was left with only one explanation for his errors
and his lies: in his book he had, he confessed, resorted to "poetic
license" or, as he was wont to say in Latin, to "licentia poetarum"!

In the end, a bit of drama unfolded: Mr. Griffiths, the prosecutor who
had himself solicited the presence of this witness numero uno and yet
now apparently exasperated by Dr. Vrba's lies, fired off the following
question:

"You told Mr. Christie several times in discussing your book I Cannot
Forgive that you used poetic license in writing that book. Have you
used poetic license in your testimony?" (p. 1636).

The false witness tried to parry the blow but prosecutor Griffiths hit
him with a second question equally treacherous, this time concerning
the number of gassing victims which Vrba had given; the witness
responded with garrulous nonsense; Griffiths was getting ready to ask
him a third and final question when suddenly, the matter was cut short
and one heard the prosecutor say to the judge:

"I have no further questions for Dr. Vrba" (p. 1643).

Crestfallen, the witness left the dock. Dr. Vrba's initial
questioning, cross-examination and final questioning filled 400 pages
of transcripts (pp. 1244-1643). These pages could readily be used in
an encyclopedia of law under a chapter on the detection of false
witnesses.

The Prosecution Gives up on Calling Witnesses

Three years later, in 1988, during the second trial against Ernst
Z�ndel, the public prosecutor deemed it prudent to abandon any
recourse to witnesses. Canadian justice had apparently understood the
lesson of the first trial: there were no credible witnesses to the
existence and operation of the 'Nazi gas chambers'.

Little by little, every other country in the world has learned this
same lesson. At the trial of Klaus Barbie in France, in 1987, there
was talk about the gas chambers of Auschwitz but no one produced any
witnesses who could properly speak about them.[10] The attorney
Jacques Verg�s, courageous yet not foolhardy, preferred to avoid the
subject. This was a stroke of luck for the Jewish lawyers who feared
nothing so much as to see me appearing at the side of Mr. Verg�s. If
this gentleman had accepted my offer to counsel him, we in France
might have been able to strike a tremendous blow against the myth of
the gas chambers.

All the while in France, during several revisionist trials, Jewish
witnesses sometimes came to evoke the gas chambers but none of them
testified before the court as to having seen one or having
participated in a homicidal gassing by hauling bodies out of the 'gas
chambers'.

Today, gas chamber witnesses are making themselves extremely scarce
and the Demjanjuk trial in Israel, which once again has revealed how
much false testimony is involved in the matter, has contributed to the
suppression. Several years ago, it happened that I was aggressively
questioned at the rear of a law court by elderly Jews who presented
themselves as "living witnesses to the gas chambers of Auschwitz",
showing me their tattoos. It was necessary for me only to ask them to
look me in the eyes and to describe for me a gas chamber that
inevitably they retorted:

"How could I do this? If I had seen a gas chamber with my own eyes I
would not be here today to speak with you; I myself would have been
gassed also."

This brings us back, as one can see, to Simone Veil and her
declaration of May 7, 1983, about which we already know what we should
think�

Michael Ejercito

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Nov 18, 2009, 9:52:12 AM11/18/09
to
On Nov 17, 6:57 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
> concentration camps.
And murdered them.

>The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
> political opponents and for less reason.

And did NOT murder them.

> At the end of the war there
> was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
> because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
> the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.
>
> Newsweek magazine May 15, 1989 says on page 64:
>
> "the way the Nazis did things: the secrecy, the unwritten orders, the
> destruction of records and the innocent-sounding code names for the
> extermination of the Jews. Perhaps it was inevitable that historians
> would quarrel over just what happened"
>
> The real reason there are no records of an extermination plan is
> because there was no extermination plan. The Germans planned to deport
> the Jews out of Germany. The records show that they planned to move
> them to Madagascar.
>

How does a Holocaust happen?

by Jeff Jacoby

Dave Heil

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Nov 18, 2009, 11:08:05 AM11/18/09
to
Topaz wrote:
> By Faurisson
>
> The Unraveling of the Witnesses at the First Z�ndel Trial (1985)

Unraveling, huh?

Wikipedia says:

quote
Ernst Christof Friedrich Z�ndel (born April 24, 1939, Bad Wildbad) is a
German neo-Nazi,[1][2] Holocaust denier[3][4] and pamphleteer who was
jailed several times in Canada for publishing literature which "is
likely to incite hatred against an identifiable group" and for being a
threat to national security, in the United States for overstaying his
visa, and in Germany for charges of "inciting racial hatred."[5][6][7]
He lived in Canada from 1958 to 2000.

In 1977, Z�ndel founded a small press publishing house called Samisdat
Publishers which issued such pamphlets as The Hitler We Loved and Why
and Did Six Million Really Die?, both prominent documents of the
Holocaust denial movement.

On February 5, 2003, Ernst Z�ndel was detained by U.S. local police and
deported to Canada, where he was detained for two years on a Security
Certificate for being a foreign national alleged to be a threat to
national security pending a court decision on the validity of the
certificate. Once the certificate was upheld and Z�ndel was determined
to be a national security risk he was deported to Germany and tried in
the state court of Mannheim on outstanding charges of incitement for
Holocaust denial dating from the early 1990s. On February 15, 2007, he
was convicted and sentenced to the maximum term of five years in
prison.[8] He is scheduled to be released on March 7, 2010.

Background

Z�ndel emigrated to Canada from West Germany in 1958, when he was 19, in
order to avoid being conscripted by the German military. He married a
French-Canadian, Janick Larouche, in 1960 with whom he had two sons,
Pierre and Hans. During the 1960s he came under the tutelage of Canadian
fascist Adrien Arcand.

Professionally, Z�ndel worked as a graphic artist and printer. On
several occasions in the 1960s he was commissioned to illustrate covers
for Maclean's Magazine. His views on Nazism and Jews were not well known
in the 1960s and 1970s as he initially published his opinions under the
pseudonym Christof Friedrich. At the time, he was also an organizer
among immigrants for the Ralliement des cr�ditistes, Quebec's Social
Credit party. In 1968 he joined the Liberal Party of Canada and ran in
that year's Liberal leadership convention under the name Ernest Zundel
[9] as a self-described "nuisance candidate" running on an "immigrant
rights" platform. He used his candidacy to allege that Canadian society
was replete with anti-German attitudes. He dropped out of the contest
prior to the voting, but not before delivering his campaign speech to
the convention.

His first marriage ended in 1977 as his public notoriety grew.

Z�ndel campaigned in Canada to ban the movie Schindler's List[10] on the
grounds that it "generates hatred against Germans, and it should be
possible to ban it under 'hate laws' in Canada, Germany, and other
countries"[11] and celebrated the movie being banned in Malaysia and the
Philippines, and effectively banned in Lebanon and Jordan.[12]

In 1984, a pipe bomb blasted a hole through Z�ndel's garage door and on
May 8, 1995, his Toronto residence was the target of an arson attack
resulting in $75,000 in damage[citation needed]. The Jewish Armed
Resistance Movement claimed responsibility for the arson attack though
there are doubts about the claim's veracity.[13] Five days after the
incident members of the Jewish Defense League were detained by police
upon being found in the property's vicinity. No charges have ever been
laid in the incident.[14] Later the same month Z�ndel was the recipient
of a parcel bomb that was detonated by the Toronto Police Service's bomb
squad.[15] The investigation into the parcel bomb attack led to charges
being laid against David Barbarash, an animal rights activist based in
British Columbia, but they were eventually stayed.[16]
[edit] Nazi UFOs-Antarctica

When Z�ndel started Samisdat Publishers in the 1970s, he initially
catered to the UFOlogy community, which was then at its peak of public
acceptance. His main offerings were his own books claiming that flying
saucers were Nazi secret weapons launched from an underground base in
Antarctica, from which the Nazis hoped to conquer the world.[17]

Under the pseudonyms 'Christof Friedrich' and 'Mattern Friedrich', he
also wrote several publications promoting the idea that UFOs were really
secret weapons of the Nazis who had fled to Neu-Schwabenland in
Antarctica ('Secret Nazi Polar Expeditions' [1978] and 'Hitler at the
South Pole' [1979]). He promoted the idea of Nazi secret bases in
Antarctica, Nazi UFOs, secret polar bases and Hollow Earth theories.

Along with publishing Willibald Mattern, a German �migr� living in
Santiago de Chile, books on Nazi UFO in its original German and
translated into English, with Willibald Mattern, wrote 'UFOs: Nazi
Secret Weapon?'.

The UFOs supposedly monitor humanity, and are part of a secret plan to
re-conquer the world at an unspecified time. Whether he actually
believed these notions or it was just a publicity stunt cannot be
ascertained.[18][19][20][21][22][23][24]

In the Samisdat Publishers newsletter of 1978, Z�ndel advertised an
expedition to Antarctica to find these bases and UFOs. A ticket would
cost $9,999 for a seat on an exploration team to locate the polar
entrance to the hollow earth.[25]

This expedition never took place.

According to Frank Miele, a member of the Skeptics Society in the United
States, Z�ndel told him that his book 'UFOs: Nazi Secret Weapon?' (which
became an underground bestseller, going through several printings) was
nothing more than a ploy to attract readers, a deliberate hoax to build
publicity for Samisdat. Said Z�ndel in a telephone conversation with Miele:

"I realized that North Americans were not interested in being educated.
They want to be entertained. The book was for fun. With a picture of the
F�hrer on the cover and flying saucers coming out of Antarctica it was a
chance to get on radio and TV talk shows. For about 15 minutes of an
hour program I'd talk about that esoteric stuff. Then I would start
talking about all those Jewish scientists in concentration camps,
working on these secret weapons. And that was my chance to talk about
what I wanted to talk about." "In that case," I asked him, "do you still
stand by what you wrote in the UFO book?" "Look," he replied, "it has a
question mark at the end of the title." [26][27][28]

Z�ndel continued to defend these views as late as 2002.[29][30]
[edit] Holocaust denial
Did Six Million Really Die? by Richard Harwood (also known as Richard
Verrall), published by Ernst Z�ndel's Samisdat Publishers

In the 1970s, Z�ndel founded a small publishing house called Samisdat
Publishers. Samisdat initially produced UFO-related books, some of them
written pseudonymously by Z�ndel. Within a few years it began
disseminating Nazi sympathizer literature, including Z�ndel's The Hitler
We Loved and Why, Richard Verrall's Did Six Million Really Die?, and
works by Malcolm Ross.

By the early 1980s, Samisdat Publications had grown into a worldwide
distributor of Nazi and neo-Nazi posters, audiotapes, and memorabilia,
as well as pamphlets and books devoted to Holocaust denial and Allied
and Zionist "war crimes", claiming a mailing list of 29,000 in the
United States alone. Advertisements for Samisdat Publications were
purchased in well-known reputable American magazines and even comic
books. West Germany became another large market, in violation of their
Volksverhetzung (incitement of the masses) laws preventing Holocaust
denial and dissemination of Nazi and neo-Nazi material, going so far as
to send mass mailings to every member of the West German Bundestag
(parliament).

In December 1980, the West German Federal Ministry of Finance told the
Bundestag that between January 1978, and December 1979, "200 shipments
of right-wing extremist and neo-Nazi content including books,
periodicals, symbols, decorations, films, cassettes, and records" had
been intercepted entering West Germany; these shipments "came
overwhelmingly from Canada." On April 23, 1981, the West German
government sent a letter to the Canadian Jewish Congress, confirming
that the source of the material was Samisdat Publishers.

From 1981 to 1982 Z�ndel had his mailing privileges suspended by the
Canadian government on the grounds that he had been using the mail to
send hate propaganda, a criminal offence in Canada. Z�ndel then began
shipping from a post office box in Niagara Falls, New York, until the
ban on his mailing in Canada was lifted in January 1983.

Z�ndel was a vocal supporter of alleged Nazi war criminals living in
Canada. During the trial of Imre Finta, Z�ndel was confronted outside
the courthouse by a Holocaust survivor. Z�ndel told the survivor
"Listen, yeah, we are gonna get you yet, don't you worry."[31]

In 1997, Z�ndel told an interviewer from an Israeli newspaper that
"[t]he Jews of the world have a Holocaust coming, and all the gruesome
lies that they have told about people like Germans during the Second
World War�all those grotesque Spielberg-like distortions of what really
took place�one day will come back to haunt Jews, and I want to not be
around when that happens."[32][33]
[edit] Trials

In 1983 Sabrina Citron, a Holocaust survivor and founder of the Canadian
Holocaust Remembrance Association, filed a private complaint against
Z�ndel before the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal. In 1984, the Ontario
government joined the criminal proceedings against Z�ndel based on
Citron's complaint. Z�ndel was charged under the Criminal Code, section
181, of spreading false news for publishing "Did Six Million Really Die?".

Z�ndel underwent two criminal trials in 1985 and 1988. The charge
against Z�ndel alleged that he "did publish a statement or tale, namely,
"Did Six Million Really Die?" that he knows is false and that is likely
to cause mischief to the public interest in social and racial tolerance,
contrary to the Criminal Code." After a much publicized trial in 1985,
Z�ndel was found guilty. After his conviction, Z�ndel was able to have
it overturned in an appeal on a legal technicality, leading to a second
trial in 1988, in which he was again convicted. Z�ndel was originally
found guilty by two juries but was finally acquitted upon appeal by the
Supreme Court of Canada which held in 1992 that section 181 (formerly
known as section 177) was a violation of the guarantees of freedom of
expression under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

The 1988 trial was notable for its reliance on testimony from
individuals such as David Irving and Fred A. Leuchter, a self-declared
expert in execution technology.[34] Leuchter's testimony as an expert
witness was accepted by the court, but his accompanying Leuchter report
was excluded, based on his lack of engineering credentials. In 1985, key
expert testimony against Z�ndel's alleged Holocaust denial was provided
at great lengths by Holocaust historian, Raul Hilberg. Hilberg refused
to testify at Z�ndel's 1988 trial. Z�ndel was convicted in 1988 and
sentenced to 15 months imprisonment by an Ontario court; however, in
1992 in R. v. Z�ndel his conviction was overturned by the Supreme Court
of Canada when the law he had been charged under, reporting false news,
was ruled unconstitutional.[35]

In 1997, Z�ndel's marriage with his second wife, Irene Marcarelli,
collapsed after 18 months. "At one point I really loved him," she told
an acquaintance. "By the end, I thought he was evil incarnate." She
subsequently testified against him in the late 1990s when he was under
investigation by the Canadian Human Rights Commission for promoting
hatred against Jews via his website. In January 2000, before the
Commission had completed its hearings, he left Canada for Sevierville,
Tennessee where he married his third wife, Ingrid Rimland and vowed
never to return to Canada.[36]
[edit] Detention and deportation

In 2003, Z�ndel was arrested in the United States for violating that
country's immigration rules, specifically visa waiver overstay, which he
argues was a "trumped up" charge. After two weeks he was deported.
Z�ndel being a German citizen, a warrant for his arrest for
Volksverhetzung (incitement of the masses) had been issued in Germany in
the same year and he sought refugee status in Canada, despite the fact
that his permanent residency status in Canada had expired owing to his
prolonged absence from the country. At his hearing, Z�ndel described
himself as "the Gandhi of the right."

Despite having lived in Canada for over forty years prior to moving to
the United States, Z�ndel never obtained Canadian citizenship.
Applications for citizenship were rejected in 1966 and again in 1994 for
reasons that have never been publicly disclosed.[8] So, upon his return
to Canada, he had no status in the country as he was not a citizen and
as his landed immigrant status had been forfeited by his prolonged
absence from the country. Upon entry into Canada, Z�ndel claimed refugee
status in hopes of preventing his deportation to Germany. This claim
elicited public ridicule, Rex Murphy, a columnist for the Globe and Mail
and a well known commentator on the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation
wrote "If Ernst Z�ndel is a refugee, Daffy Duck is Albert Einstein...
Some propositions are so ludicrous that they are a betrayal of common
sense and human dignity if allowed a moment's oxygen."[37]

On May 2, 2003, Canadian Citizenship and Immigration Minister Denis
Coderre and Solicitor General Wayne Easter issued a "national security
certificate" against Z�ndel under the provisions of the Canadian
Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, indicating that he was a threat
to Canada's national security of Canadian citizens owing to his alleged
links with violent neo-Nazi groups including Aryan Nations leader
Richard Girnt Butler, neo-Nazi Christian Worch, and former Canadian
Aryan Nations leader Terry Long, as well as Ewald Althans, convicted in
a German court in 1995 of charges that included insulting the memory of
the dead and insulting the state.

Z�ndel moved twice to have Canadian Federal Court justice Pierre Blais
recuse himself from the case for "badgering and accusing the witness of
lying" and exhibiting "open hostility" towards Z�ndel, and filed two
constitutional challenges, one in the Ontario courts and one in the
federal courts, both unsuccessful. During the hearing, Z�ndel
characterized his position as "Sometimes I feel like a black man being
convicted on Ku Klux Klan news clippings."[38]

Z�ndel meanwhile moved to be released from detention on his own
recognizance while the legal proceedings were ongoing. His lawyer, Doug
Christie, introduced as a "surprise witness" Lorraine Day, a California
doctor who practises alternative cancer treatments, to testify that
Z�ndel's incarceration at Toronto's Metro West Detention Centre was
causing his chest tumor (revealed to the court a few weeks previously)
to grow and his blood pressure to rise, that the medication supplied to
control his blood pressure was causing side-effects such as a slow heart
rate and loss of memory, and that "He needs exercise, fresh air, and
freedom from stress. The whole point is we need to have his high blood
pressure controlled without the drug."[38] On January 21, 2004, after
three months of hearings including both public and secret testimony,
Justice Blais again ruled against Z�ndel with a damning statement.

During his imprisonment, Canadian neo-Nazi leader Paul Fromm attempted
to hold numerous rallies in support of Z�ndel, both in Ontario and in
Alberta. The rallies were met with formidable opposition, namely by the
Anti-Racist Action group, which heightened its opposition to Fromm's
pro-Z�ndel work in the summer of 2004. The anti-racist efforts included
participation by numerous Toronto activist groups and individuals,
including Shane Ruttle Martinez and Marcell Rodden, and successfully
managed to prevent similar future congregations of the neo-Nazis. Fromm
eventually ceased his efforts after being advised by Z�ndel's attorneys
that public clashes between opponents of the Z�ndel issues was not
assisting the image of their client's case.

On February 24, 2005, Justice Blais ruled that Canada could deport
Z�ndel back to his native Germany at any time, and on February 25
Z�ndel's lawyer, Peter Lindsay, announced that his client would not
attempt to obtain a stay against the deportation and that his fight to
remain in Canada was over. In his decision, Justice Blais noted that
Z�ndel had had the opportunity to respond to the allegations of the
decision of January 21 by explaining the nature of his contacts with the
extremists mentioned and/or providing exonerating witnesses, but had
failed to do so. Blais found that "Mr. Z�ndel's activities are not only
a threat to Canada's national security, but also a threat to the
international community of nations."[39]

Z�ndel was deported to Germany on March 1, 2005.[40] Upon his arrival at
Frankfurt airport, he was immediately arrested and detained in Mannheim
prison awaiting trial for inciting racial hatred.[41]
[edit] German trial

German prosecutors charged Z�ndel on July 19, 2005, with fourteen counts
of inciting racial hatred, which is punishable under German criminal
law, Section 130, 2.(3) (Agitation (sedition) of the People) with up to
5 years in prison. The indictment says Z�ndel "denied the fate of
destruction for the Jews planned by National Socialist powerholders and
justified this by saying that the mass destruction in Auschwitz and
Treblinka, among others, were an invention of the Jews and served the
repression and extortion of the German people."

His trial was scheduled for five days beginning November 8, 2005, but
ran into an early delay when Judge Ulrich Meinerzhagen ruled that Horst
Mahler, whose license to practice as a lawyer was withdrawn in 2004 and
who, in January 2005, was sentenced to nine months in prison for
inciting racial hatred, could not be part of the defense team. Mahler
had been associated with the violent far-left Red Army Faction in the
1970s, but has since become a supporter of far-right and antisemitic
groups. Z�ndel's public defender Sylvia Stolz was also dismissed, on the
grounds that her written submissions to the court included Mahler's
ideas. On November 15, 2005, Meinerzhagen announced that the trial was
to be rescheduled in order to allow new counsel time to prepare.[42]

The trial resumed on February 9, 2006 for several court sessions but
then adjourned on March 9 when the trial judge asked for Stolz to be
removed as Z�ndel's defence lawyer after having denounced the court as a
"tool of foreign domination" and described the Jews as an "enemy
people". On March 31 the superior state court in Karlsruhe removed Stolz
from the case for illegally obstructing proceedings "with the sole goal
of sabotaging the trial . . . and making it into a farce".[43]

The trial again resumed on June 9, 2006 and continued, intermittently,
into early 2007. The prosecution concluded its case on January 26, 2007
calling for Z�ndel to be handed the maximum sentence of five years
imprisonment with state prosecutor Andreas Grossman calling him a
"political con man" from whom the German people needed protection. After
quoting extensively from Z�ndel's writings on the Holocaust, Grossman
argued "[you] might as well argue that the sun rises in the West... But
you cannot change that the Holocaust has been proven."[8] In its closing
arguments the defence has called for Z�ndel to be acquitted.[44][45]

On February 15, 2007, Z�ndel was sentenced to a five year term in
prison, the maximum sentence possible for violating the Volksverhetzung
law (Section 130, 2.(3)) in the German criminal code which bans
incitement of hatred against a minority of the population, which is how
his Holocaust denial was interpreted by the Federal German
court.[46][dead link]

His time in pre-trial confinement in Canada was not taken into account
on his sentence, but only the two years he was confined in Germany since
2005. One of his lawyers was excluded from the process for agitation and
had to be carried out of the courtroom. Another lawyer, J�rgen Rieger, a
leading member of Germany's NPD, was forbidden to voice petitions and
ruled to put them down in writing; he let another lawyer read them
aloud. Another lawyer read parts of Mein Kampf and parts of the NS race
legislation aloud in his closing speech. Z�ndel asked for the inception
of an expert's commission to examine the Holocaust. The judge in his
emotional closing speech called Z�ndel an �Brunnenvergifter und
Brandstifter, einen Verehrer dieses menschenverachtenden Barbaren Adolf
Hitler, von dem er dummdreist daherschwafelt.�, in English roughly
translated "well-poisoner and arsonist, an admirer of this
human-despising barbarian Adolf Hitler, of whom he rambles on with brash
impertinence". It is believed that the Holocaust deniers are using this
process and the coming revisions to show that freedom of speech was
impaired in Germany depending on the ideology of the speaker.[47][dead link]

On February 21, the Mannheim District Court announced that Z�ndel will
appeal against the court's verdict.[48] On September 17, 2007, the
appeal was rejected and the verdict, as well as the sentence, of the
Mannheim District Court was upheld by the German Federal Court of
Justice.[49][dead link]
[edit] Ancestry

According to Toronto Sun columnist Mark Bonokoski, Z�ndel's mother was
Gertrude Mayer and his maternal grandparents were the Jewish Mr. and
Mrs. Nagal and Isador (Izzy) Mayer. Izzy Mayer was a trade union
organizer for the garment industry in the Bavarian city of Augsburg

According to Bonokoski, Ernst's ex-wife Irene Z�ndel said that the
possibility of being at least part-Jewish bothered Z�ndel so much that
he returned to Germany in the 1960s in search of his family's
Ariernachweis, a Nazi-era certificate of pure Aryan blood, but was
unable to find any such document for his family.

In 1997, Z�ndel granted an interview to Tsadok Yecheskeli of the Israeli
newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth that includes the following exchange:

Zundel: "If you are fishing for any political information, my father was
a Social Democrat, my mother a simple Christian woman. Her father had
been a union organizer in Bavaria, and of the garment workers' union.
His name got him into trouble because it was Isadore Mayer and, of
course, he was called Izzy by his people and the people thought he ... "

Yecheskeli: "Was Jewish?"

Zundel: "No, I don't ... don't think so." [50]
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> Here is part of the Leuchter Report:
>
> "Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
> chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
> from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
> from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
> been used and was apparently present as blue staining.

Leuchter's a fraud. Wikipedia says:

quote
The Leuchter report is a pseudoscientific[1] document authored by
American execution technician Fred A. Leuchter. In the defense of
Holocaust denier Ernst Z�ndel at his trial, Leuchter compiled the report
in 1988 with the intention of investigating the feasibility of mass
homicidal gassings at Nazi extermination camps; in particular, at
Auschwitz. However, during the trial Leuchter was dismissed as expert
witness as he had neither the qualifications nor experience to act in
such a position.

Leuchter chiefly cited the absence of Prussian blue in the homicidal gas
chambers in support of his view. However, residual iron-based cyanide
compounds are not a categorical consequence of cyanide exposure, yet by
not discriminating against that, Leuchter introduced an unreliable
factor into his experiment, and the outcome was seriously flawed as a
result. In contrast, fair tests conducted by Polish forensic scientists
which discriminated against iron-based compounds confirmed the presence
of cyanide in the locations and manner in accordance with where and how
it was claimed it was used.

The discredited report is still widely distributed among Holocaust deniers.

Investigation

Z�ndel and his lawyers were joined by Robert Faurisson, who came to
Toronto to advise the defense at the second trial[2]:160 (having
previously testified as expert witness at the first).[2]:161 He was also
joined by David Irving who was to assist in preparing the defense and to
testify on Z�ndel's behalf.[2]:161 After having expressed interest in
getting an American prison warden who had participated in executions by
gas to testify, Irving and Faurisson (Faurisson, a staunch believer that
it was technically and physically impossible for the gas chambers at
Auschwitz to have functioned as extermination facilities based in
comparison with American execution gas chambers) and Irving invited Bill
Armontrout, warden of the Missouri State Penitentiary.[2]:162 He agreed
to testify and suggested they also contact Fred A. Leuchter, a Bostonian
execution equipment designer. According to Faurisson, Leuchter accepted
the Holocaust, but after two days, he then stated that Leuchter was
convinced that homicidal gassings never occurred. In agreement to serve
as expert witness for the defense and having met Z�ndel in Toronto,
Leuchter shortly left to spend a week in Poland.[2]:162 He was
accompanied by his draftsman, a cinematographer supplied by Z�ndel, a
translator fluent in German and Polish, and his wife. Newly married for
less than a month, Leuchter told her that this was her honeymoon.[3]
While Z�ndel and Faurisson could not accompany them, Leuchter stated
they were with them "every step of the way" in spirit.[2]:162

Once in Poland, the group spent three days in Auschwitz and one in
Majdanek. As the cement and bricks they collected were procured
illegally,[2]:162 Leuchter's wife and the translator acted as
lookouts,[3] while Leuchter was being filmed taking what he called
"forensic samples".[2]:163 Drawings of where the samples were taken
from, the footage of their collection and Leuchter's notebook were
surrendered as permanent evidence to the court,[3] and Leuchter
concluded that his findings were based on his "expert knowledge" for gas
chamber operation, his visual inspections of what remains of the
structures at Auschwitz, and "original drawings and blueprints of some
of the facilities".[2]:163 Leuchter claimed that the blueprints had been
given to him by Auschwitz museum officials.[2]:163
[edit] Report

The compiled report was published as The Leuchter Report: An Engineering
Report on the Alleged Execution Gas Chambers at Auschwitz, Birkenau, and
Majdanek, Poland, by Z�ndel's Samisdat Publications, and as Auschwitz:
The End of the Line. The Leuchter Report: The First Forensic Examination
of Auschwitz by Focal Point Publications, David Irving's publishing
house.[2]:163 However, the court accepted the report only as evidentiary
display and not as direct evidence; Leuchter was therefore required to
explicate it and testify to the veracity of his findings under oath in
the trial.[3]

Before Leuchter could do this, he was examined by the court. It soon
became apparent that Leuchter's credentials were seriously lacking. He
admitted that he was not a toxicologist and dismissed the need for
having a degree in engineering, to which the judge responded abruptly:
� THE COURT: How do you function as an engineer if you don't have an
engineering degree?

THE WITNESS: Well, I would question, Your Honour, what an engineering
degree is. I have a Bachelor of Arts degree and I have the required
background training both on the college level and in the field to
perform my function as an engineer.

THE COURT: Who determines that? You?
�

�Exchange between Leuchter and Judge Thomas, Her Majesty the Queen vs.
Ernst Z�ndel, District Court of Ontario 1988, p. 8973.[2]:164

Leuchter admitted under oath that he only had a bachelor of arts degree
and implicitly suggested that an engineering degree was unavailable to
him by saying that his college did not offer an engineering degree
during his studies. Boston University actually offered three different
kinds of such qualification when he was a student there.[2]:165 The
defense continued to obfuscate Leuchter's credentials. When asked by the
court if the B.A. he obtained was in a field that entitled him to
operate as an engineer, he confirmed that this was so, even though his
degree was in history.[2]:165 Similarly, Leuchter claimed that he
obtained most of his research material on the camps (including original
crematoria blueprints) from the Auschwitz and Majdanek camps' archives,
and testified that these documents had a far more important role in
shaping his conclusions than the physical samples he collected did, yet
after the trial the director of the Auschwitz museum categorically
denied that Leuchter had received any plans or blueprints.[2]:165

Judge Ronald Thomas began to label Leuchter's methodology as
"ridiculous" and "preposterous", dismissing many of the report's
conclusions on the basis that they were based on "second-hand
information", and refused to allow him to testify on the effect of
Zyklon B on humans because he had never worked with the substance, and
was neither a toxicologist nor a chemist.[2]:166 Mr. Thomas dismissed
Leuchter's opinion because it was of "no greater value than that of an
ordinary tourist", and in regards to Leuchter's opinion said:
� THE COURT: His opinion on this report is that there were never any
gassings or there was never any exterminations carried on in this
facility. As far as I am concerned, from what I've heard, he is not
capable of giving that opinion....He is not in a position to say, as he
said so sweepingly in this report, what could not have been carried on
in these facilities. �

�Judge Thomas, Her Majesty the Queen vs. Ernst Z�ndel, District Court of
Ontario 1988, p. 9049-9050.[2]:166

When questioned on the functioning of the crematoria, the judge also
prevented Leuchter from testifying because "he hasn't any
expertise".[2]:166 Leuchter also claimed that consultation relating to
sodium cyanide and hydrogen cyanide with DuPont was "an on-going thing".
DuPont, the largest American manufacturer of hydrogen cyanide, stated
that it had "never provided any information on cyanides to persons
representing themselves as Holocaust deniers, including Fred Leuchter",
and has "never provided any information regarding the use of cyanide at
Auschwitz, Birkenau or Majdanek."[2]:166
[edit] Claims and criticism

The contents of the report, in particular Leuchter's methodology are
heavily criticised. James Roth, the manager of the lab that carried out
the analysis on the samples Leuchter collected swore under oath to the
results at the trial. Roth did not learn what the trial was about until
he got off the stand.[3] He later stated that cyanide would have only
penetrated to a depth of around 10 microns, a tenth of the thickness of
a human hair. The samples of brick, mortar and concrete that Leuchter
took were of indeterminate thickness: not being aware of this, the lab
ground the samples to a fine powder which thus severely diluted the
cyanide-containing layer of each sample with an indeterminate amount of
brick, varying for each sample.[3] A more accurate analysis would have
been obtained by analysing the surface of the samples Leuchter
collected. Roth offered the analogy that the investigation was like
analyzing paint on a wall by analyzing the timber behind it.[3]
[edit] Prussian blue

Leuchter's opposition to the possibility of homicidal gassings at
Auschwitz relies on residual cyanide remains found in the homicidal gas
chambers and delousing chambers at Auschwitz.[2]:167 While both
facilities were exposed to the same substance (Zyklon B), many of the
delousing chambers are stained with an iron based compound known as
Prussian blue, which is not apparent in the homicidal gas chambers.[4]
It is not only this disparity that Leuchter cites, but accordingly from
his samples (which included measurements of it) that he claims he
measured much more cyanide in the delousing chambers than in the gas
chambers, which he argues is inconsistent between the amounts necessary
to kill human beings and lice.[2]:167 This argument is often cited by
Holocaust deniers, and similar claims are also made by Germar Rudolf.

According to Dr. Richard Green:
� In order for Leuchter or Rudolf to demonstrate the significance of
their findings, it is necessary for them to prove the necessity of
Prussian blue formation under the conditions that the homicidal gas
chambers were operated. Showing that the delousing chambers have
Prussian blue and that the homicidal gas chambers do not, proves
nothing, if it cannot be shown that conditions in the gas chambers were
such as to produce Prussian blue.[4] �

This means that if it is claimed that the absence of Prussian blue
proves that no gassing took place, the burden of proof falls on the
claimant to demonstrate that their proposed method was in operation.[4]
In other words, the claimant must prove that the conditions and method
for its formation where it did occur were exactly the same in places
where it did not. If the claimant cannot substantiate this, then the
claim of no gassing has not been corroborated because the claimant has
not ruled out its impossibility.[5]

The problem with Prussian blue is that it is by no means a categorical
sign of cyanide exposure.[4] One factor necessary in its formation is a
very high concentration of cyanide.[4] In terms of the difference
between amounts measured in the delousing chambers and homicidal gas
chambers, critics explain that the exact opposite of what deniers claim
is true. Insects have a far higher resistance to cyanide than humans,
with concentration levels up to 16,000ppm (parts per million) and an
exposure time of more than 20 hours[5] (sometimes as long as 72 hours)
being necessary for them to succumb. In contrast, a cyanide
concentration of only 300ppm is fatal to humans in a matter of
minutes.[6] This difference is one of the reasons behind the
concentration disparity. Another exceedingly sensitive factor by which
very small deviances could determine whether Prussian blue may form is
pH. This element could be affected even by just the presence of human
beings.[4] Also, while the delousing chambers were left intact, the
ruins of the crematoria at Birkenau had been exposed to the elements for
over forty years by the time Leuchter collected his samples. This would
have severely affected his results, because unlike Prussian blue and
other iron based cyanides, cyanide salts are highly soluble in water.[4]

Since the formation of Prussian blue is not an unconditional outcome of
exposure to cyanide, it is not a reliable indicator. Leuchter and Rudolf
claim to have measured much more cyanide in the delousing chambers than
in the homicidal gas chambers, but since they did not discriminate
against an unreliable factor, critics maintain that instant bias is
introduced into their experiments.[4] Similarly, Rudolf acknowledges
that Prussian blue does not always form upon exposure to cyanide and is
thus not a reliable marker, yet continues to include the iron compounds
in his analysis. Critics describe this as "disingenuous".[6] Since a
building that contains Prussian blue staining would exhibit much higher
levels of detectable cyanides than one without anyway, Leuchter's and
Rudolf's measurements reveal nothing more than what is already visible
to the naked eye.[4]
[edit] Response

In February 1990, Professor Jan Markiewicz, director of The Institute
for Forensic Research in Krak�w conducted a fair experiment where iron
compounds were excluded.[6] Given that the ruins of the gas chambers at
Birkenau have been washed by a column of water at least 35m in height
based on climatological records since 1945,[7]:Introduction Markiewicz
and his team were not optimistic at being able to detect cyanides so
many years later, nevertheless, having the legal permission to obtain
samples (which Leuchter and Rudolf did not), they collected samples from
areas as sheltered from the elements as possible.[4]

Leuchter's report states that the small amounts of cyanide he detected
in the ruins of the crematoria are merely the result of fumigation.
However the IFRC points out that the controlled samples they took from
living areas which may have been fumigated only once as part of the 1942
typhus epidemic tested negative for cyanide, and that the typhus
epidemic occurred before the crematoria at Birkenau even
existed.[7]:Final Remarks
The ruins of the Crematorium II gas chamber at Auschwitz-Birkenau.

Accordingly, the IFRC demonstrated that cyanides were present in all of
the facilities where it is claimed that they were exposed, i.e. all five
crematoria, the cellars of Block 11 and the delousing facilities.[4]
Critics state that any attempt to demonstrate that the crematoria could
not have functioned as homicidal gas chambers on the basis that they
were not exposed to cyanide is unsuccessful, given that its presence in
what remains of these facilities is incontrovertible,[5] and write that
all of the gas chambers were exposed to cyanide at levels higher than
background levels elsewhere in the camp, such as living areas, where no
cyanides at all were detected.[4] In addition, tests conducted at
Auschwitz in 1945 revealed the presence of cyanides on ventilation
grilles found in the ruins of Crematorium II (thus also demonstrating
that the Leuchter report was not the first forensic examination of the
camp as purported in the title of the London edition).[5] Due to
Leuchter's ignorance of the large disparity between the amounts of
cyanide necessary to kill humans and lice, instead of disproving the
homicidal use of gas chambers, the small amounts of cyanide which
Leuchter detected actually tended to confirm it.[8]
[edit] Other criticisms

By order of Heinrich Himmler, the crematoria and gas chambers at
Birkenau were destroyed in order to hide evidence of genocide.[9]
Nothing more than the bases of Crematoria IV and V can be seen: the
floor plans of both facilities are indicated by bricks layed out across
the concrete foundations,[10] and Crematoria II and III are in ruins.
Professor Robert Jan van Pelt labels Leuchter's comment that the
facilities have not changed at all since 1942 or 1941 as "nonsense".[3]
[edit] Zyklon B

Because hydrogen cyanide is explosive, Leuchter maintained that the gas
chambers could never have been operated due to their proximity to the
ovens of the crematoria.[2]:168 It is correct that hydrogen cyanide is
explosive, but only at concentrations of 56,000 ppm and above[11] - over
186 times more than the lethal dose of 300 ppm. Critics estimate
conservatively that within 5 to 15 minutes, gas chamber victims were
exposed to 450 - 1810 ppmv[6] - again considerably lower than the lower
explosion limit.
[edit] Gas chamber ventilation
� If Leuchter had gone to the archives, if he had spent time in the
archives, he would've found evidence about ventilation systems, evidence
about ways to introduce Zyklon B into these buildings, evidence of gas
chambers, undressing rooms. �

�Robert Jan van Pelt, The Rise and Fall of Fred A. Leuchter[3]
Nazi blueprints of the Crematorium II gas chamber. A cross section view
of the width of the room shows the ventilation channels that straddle
the building along its longitudinal axis, marked Bel�ftung (aeration)
and Entl�ftungskanal (de-aeration channel).

Leuchter incorrectly assumed that the gas chambers were not
ventilated.[12] The basement gas chambers of Crematoria II and III were
mechanically ventilated via motors in the roof space of the main
crematorium structure[13] capable of extracting the remaining gas and
renewing the air every three to four minutes.[14]

When ventilation was not used such as in Crematoria IV and V (although a
ventilation system was later installed in Crematorium V in May
1944[15]), Sonderkommando prisoners wore gas masks when removing the
bodies.[10] When presented in court with a document by the chief
Auschwitz architecht SS-Sturmbannf�hrer Karl Bischoff, Leuchter
misconstrued aeration (Bel�ftung) and ventilation (Entl�ftung) as part
of the furnace blower systems, when they were actually in reference to
the ventilation channels in the walls that straddle the gas
chambers.[12] These are visible on blueprints, and can still partly be
seen in the ruined east wall of the Crematorium III gas chamber.[12]
[edit] Body disposal

Leuchter was also prepared to act as expert witness regarding crematoria
ovens despite admitting during cross examination that he had no such
expert knowledge.[12] This did not stop him from presenting his own
figure of 156 corpses regarding the total daily incineration capacity of
the installations at Auschwitz. During cross-examination, Leuchter was
presented with a letter written by the Auschwitz Central Construction
Office (Auschwitz Zentralbauleitung) of June 28, 1943, from
SS-Sturmbannf�hrer Jahrling to SS-Brigadef�hrer Hans Kammler stating
that the five crematoria installations had a collective daily capacity
of 4,756 corpses. Leuchter conceded that that this was quite different
to his own figure, and that he had never seen the document in question
before.[12]
Daily crematoria capacity Installation Corpses
Crematorium I 340
Crematorium II 1440
Crematorium III 1440
Crematorium IV 768
Crematorium V 768
Total 4,756

With a patent application by the makers of the ovens, a Nazi document
(both made during the war) and two independent testimonies confirming
the capacity of the crematoria, critics consider Leuchter's figures
irrelevant.[12] Because the 4,756 figure is evidence of the Nazis
equipping a camp of a maximum of 140,000 prisoners with the facility to
cremate 125,000 of them per month, critics explain that this reveals the
true exterminationist purpose of Auschwitz: a camp with the capacity to
reduce its entire population to ash on a monthly basis is not merely a
benign internment camp.[16]

At various times (such as in the summer of 1944 when the extermination
process was going at such a rate that the crematoria couldn't keep
up[17]), bodies were burnt in open-air pits. Accordingly, the capacity
of the crematoria was never a limiting factor,[18], and the pits yielded
practically no limit as to the amount of corpses that could be
burnt,[19] making further comment on the capacity of the crematoria
irrelevant.
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>
>Leuchter's a fraud. Wikipedia says:

Wikipedia is a fraud.

>
>quote
>The Leuchter report is a pseudoscientific[1] document authored by
>American execution technician Fred A. Leuchter. In the defense of

>Holocaust denier Ernst Z�ndel at his trial, Leuchter compiled the report

>in 1988 with the intention of investigating the feasibility of mass
>homicidal gassings at Nazi extermination camps; in particular, at
>Auschwitz. However, during the trial Leuchter was dismissed as expert
>witness as he had neither the qualifications nor experience to act in
>such a position.

However Wikipedia kisses the Jewish aft end like the rest of the
media.


Here is part of the Leuchter Report:
"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have

been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
testing of the control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050
mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
respect that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
stable iron-cyanide complex.
"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
out in Table III.
"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
few that were positive were very close to the detection level

(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absense


of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
all these facilities"

http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/

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>Wikipedia says:

Wikipedia is Jew loving anti-White propaganda like the rest of the
media.


>
>quote
>Ernst Christof Friedrich Z�ndel (born April 24, 1939, Bad Wildbad) is a

>German neo-Nazi,[1][2] Holocaust denier[3][4] and pamphleteer who was
>jailed several times in Canada for publishing literature which "is
>likely to incite hatred against an identifiable group" and for being a
>threat to national security, in the United States for overstaying his
>visa, and in Germany for charges of "inciting racial hatred."[5][6][7]
>He lived in Canada from 1958 to 2000.
>

>In 1977, Z�ndel founded a small press publishing house called Samisdat

>Publishers which issued such pamphlets as The Hitler We Loved and Why
>and Did Six Million Really Die?, both prominent documents of the
>Holocaust denial movement.
>

By Patrick Grimm

We hear daily of the alleged dangers of "Holocaust denial." We read in
newspapers the frightful scare-mongering, comparing those who deny
"global warming" to "Holocaust deniers." But I purport that there is
one form of denial truly more deadly to the survival of all nations
than any other. It is "Jew-denial."

Now you might say, no one denies that Jews exist, that they live among
us and have done quite well economically, sometimes honestly and other
times dishonestly. This is not what I refer to. "Jew-denial" or a
"Jew-denier" is a person, either uninformed or collusive with the
overclass, who denies the power of Jews in America and the world,
denies that their organized power has been corrosive (and many honest
Jews will admit that it is) and denies that Jews are a racial group
(their own words) who believe in their right to rule over the Goyim
(which means cattle). To deny all these things is only to ignore the
words of Jewish leaders and the words of the Jews' own holy books, the
Torah and the Talmud. It is also to jettison mountains of evidence and
decades of Jewish political activism.

But the Jew-deniers are everywhere, a ubiquitous dullard or deceptive
or deceived (take your pick) band of human beings. The Jew-deniers are
in our churches, in our governments, in our schools, in our military,
in our White House and in some of our own houses. Now I don't believe
these people should be jailed, imprisoned or fined for swallowing
false news or abetting the genocide the Jews are working to bring upon
us all, whites and Palestinians alike (the white is the Palestinian of
the European sphere), but they should be approached with caution,
mainly because a lifetime of brainwashing and hornswoggling can elicit
an animalistic reaction when one of these Jew-deniers is smacked in
the face with the truth.

The Jew-deniers (at least the lay ones) should be pitied rather than
stigmatized, though I do exactly that with this article and I deeply
apologize for that. But in all seriousness, they need help. They are
not mentally ill as the Jews call any person who disagrees with their
steamrolling of humanity. The Jew-deniers are misinformed and in need
of rescuing from a life of reckless disinfo which the media Jews will
be glad to force-feed them on a daily basis forever and ever if they
are willing to read the Jew newspapers and watch inane Jew newscasts
with reporters who are front men and front women for Big Jewry. These
types of medium masteries only perpetuate Jew-denial and breed more
little Jew-deniers, persons for whom the thought that Jewry could
desire anything but beneficence and ennoblement toward the Gentile
herds is a "canard" or a "libel", either bloody or bloodless, or an
"anti-Semitic" screed.

Present facts, statistics, troubling Israeli massacres, Talmudic
quotes, lists of ultra-liberal Jewish wheelers and dealers,
anti-Christian political action committees, discombobulating
historical accounts that show Jews as they are rather than as how they
dress themselves up for the camera, and a Jew-denier and those who are
card-carrying members of the Jew-denial movement that numbers in the
millions upon millions will spit out one or more replies taken from a
prepared list of oodles of Pavlovian conditioned retorts. For the sake
of brevity, here are just a select few:

1.You're an anti-Semite!

This one is easy to combat because most Jews are not Semites and many
non-Jews are. Most Jews are Khazars, Ashkenazi Khazars, so this
characterization (anti-Semite) is a real living, breathing canard.
Inform the Jew-denier of this reality and recommend Arthur Koestler's
book The Thirteenth Tribe for his/her perusal. Some Jew-deniers are
smart, while others don't read anything more intellectual than Harry
Potter novels. If this is the case, a sympathetic and platonic hug may
be in order.

2 Jews are "God's Chosen People"

If the Jew-denier is someone who believes in God, ask the Jew-denier
if God is indeed a racist of the crudest sort (though this is not to
say that racism defensively and properly understood is always a
negative). If the reply is a reflexive egalitarian 'no', and it will
be if this person goes to any Zionized, Judaized church in this
country, then ask the person if he/she honestly believes that God
would have sanctioned the killing of thousands upon thousands of
innocent human beings only for the purpose of having the Jews procure
their property, vineyards, wives, concubines, etc. Either God is a
genocidal maniac or the stories of the Old Testament are
Judahite-penned justifications of mass murder. It's one or the other.
This is not going to wash as an argument if you are talking to a
biblical literalist or one of those folks who believes that all
Scripture is "God-breathed" and "inerrant." If the Jew-denier
regularly sends financial love gifts to television evangelists, then
quietly walk away after shaking the dust from your Reeboks.

3. Jews are just members of one of the world's monotheistic religions

Jews identify themselves as a "race", a "master race" superior to all
other races and destined to enslave the world. Jews consider
themselves a race, first and foremost. One helpful quote is in order:
"The former Israeli Prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, speaking to
Jewish group in southern California said: 'If Israel had not come into
existence after World War II then I am certain the Jewish race
wouldn't have survived. I stand before you and say you must strengthen
your commitment to Israel.'" [1]
Judaism is a racial religion based on blood purity and conquest of the
Gentile as ordered by their holy books. This is not conspiracy theory.
This is basic Old Testament hermeneutics. I won't list all the verses
here where God tells the "Chosen People" that they are destined to
rule the world, but you can find them in your family Bible in books
like Deuteronomy and Numbers and present them to any Jew-deniers you
happen to run into.

CONCLUSION
Friends and countrymen, Jew-denial is an epidemic sweeping the world,
especially the American portion of it. Our churches are cranking out
little Judaized clones right off the conveyor Bible belt, ready to
parrot the words of Cyrus Scofield and John Hagee. Our governments are
rife with Judeophilic politicians scared to speak out about the Jewish
hijacking of our foreign policy. They attack those like Jim Moran,
even projecting Protocols of Zion conspiracies onto his temperate and
reasonable critiques of AIPAC and the Israel-First-Last-And-Always
Lobby. The Jew-denial movement is running wild in the United States!
It is ignoring the real issues, which are Jewish dual loyalty or
Israel-only loyalty, the Jewish machinations manipulating our currency
and economy and the debauching of our culture and the shattering of
our borders by galvanized Jews drunk and delirious with political
power and ruinous regency.

Should we prosecute the Jew-deniers, persecute the Jew-denial movement
on the internet, lock up its sycophants, lackeys and philo-Semitic
toadies and batter these simpletons in the streets with steel pipes
and tire irons? No, there's no use emulating the Jews.

We can only curb or put the kibosh on the Jew-denial movement by
spreading data far and wide on the web and to anyone who will listen
to the straight skinny on Jew supremacism and traitorous Jew antics.
The Jew-denial campaign has done quite a bang-up job deceiving and
misdirecting the energies of ordinary individuals (acolytes of
Jew-deniery) away from their true enemy and their greatest threat,
Jewish extremism and onto bogeymen like supposed white supremacists
and radical Islamists. Because of the popular front and font of lies
and anti-white disempowerment, most people are unaware or too
apathetic to even notice the Big Jewry Hidden Hand pouring our
liberties and our freedoms straight down the Talmudic drain.
To paraphrase the son of a rabbi and the creator of Communism, Karl
Marx "Jew-recognizers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose
but your high interest rates!"

[1] (Daily Pilot, Newport Beach/ Costa Mesa, Feb. 28, 2000, front
page)

Dave Heil

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Topaz wrote:
> The Holocaust Cowing and Milking of Nations By Alex Linder
>
> 'Holocaust': The Means by Which the Richest Group in the World
> Contrives to Cow and Milk the Rest of the Us in the Guise of Victims
> who are Persecuted and Due Eternal Restitution.

The facts say otherwise:

http://www.ushmm.org/

Dave Heil

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Topaz wrote:
> Franklin Roosevelt did some things to help people. But he didn't
> really upset the money bag parasites who rule over us. Only Hitler did
> that.

Franklin D. Roosevelt didn't lose a war and put a bullet in his brain.

Topaz

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Obviously losing the war didn't prove they were wrong. It only proved
they were outnumbered. Hitler made Germany great. Of course the Jew
parasites couldn't stand that. Unfortunately the bad side won the war.
Compare the size of Germany to the size of the Jewish controlled
countries, the USA and the USSR.


An article by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, January 21, 1945
The Creators of the World's Misfortunes
by Joseph Goebbels

One could not understand this war if one did not always keep in mind
the fact that International Jewry stands behind all the unnatural
forces that our united enemies use to attempt to deceive the world and
keep humanity in the dark. It is so to speak the mortar that holds the
enemy coalition firmly together, despite its differences of class,
ideology and interests. Capitalism and Bolshevism have the same Jewish
roots, two branches of the same tree that in the end bear the same
fruit. International Jewry uses both in its own way to suppress the
nations and keep them in its service. How deep its influence on public
opinion is in all the enemy countries and many neutral nations is
plain to see that it may never be named in newspapers, speeches and
radio broadcasts. There is a law in the Soviet Union that punishes
anti-Semitism - or in plain English, public education about the Jewish
Question - by death. The expert in these matters is in no way
surprised that a leading spokesman for the Kremlin said over the New
Year that the Soviet Union would not rest until this law was valid
throughout the world. In other words, the enemy clearly says that its
goal in this war is to put the total domination of Jewry over the
nations of the earth under legal protection, and to threaten even a
discussion of this shameful attempt with the death penalty.

It is little different in the plutocratic nations. There the struggle
against the impudent usurpation of the Jewish race is not punished by
the executioner, rather by death through economic and social boycott
and by intellectual terror. This has the same effect in the end.
Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt were made by the Jewry. They enjoy its
full support and reward it with their full protection. They present
themselves in their speeches as upright men of civil courage, yet one
never hears even a word against the Jews, even though there is growing
hatred among their people as a result of this war, a hatred that is
fully justified. Jewry is a tabu theme in the enemy countries. It
stands outside every legal boundary and thus becomes the tyrant of its
host peoples. While enemy soldiers fight, bleed and die at the front,
the Jews make money from their sacrifice on the stock exchanges and
black markets. If a brave man dares to step forward and accuse the
Jews of their crimes, he will be mocked and spat on by their press,
chased from his job or otherwise impoverished, and be brought into
public contempt. Even that is apparently not enough for the Jews. They
want to bring Soviet conditions to the whole world: to give Jewry
absolute power and freedom from prosecution. He who objects or even
debates the matter gets a bullet in the back of his head or an axe
through his neck. There is no worse tyranny than this. This is the
epitome of the public and secret disgrace that Jewry inflicts on the
nations that deserve freedom.

That is all long behind us. Yet it still threatens us in the distance.
We have, it is true, entirely broken the power of the Jews in the
Reich, but they have not given up. They did not rest until they had
mobilized the whole world against us. Since they could no longer
conquer Germany from within, they want to try it from without. Every
Russian, English and American soldier is a mercenary of this world
conspiracy of a parasitic race. Given the current state of the war,
who could still believe that they are fighting and dying at the front
for the national interests of their countries! The nations want a
decent peace, but the Jews are against it. They know that the end of
the war would mean the dawning knowledge of humanity of the unhealthy
role that International Jewry played in preparing for and carrying out
this war. They fear being unmasked, which has in fact become
unavoidable and must inevitably come, just as the day follows the
night. That explains their raging bursts of hatred against us, which
are only the result of their fear and their feelings of inferiority.
They are too eager, and that makes them suspicious. International
Jewry will not succeed in turning this war to its advantage. Things
are already too far along. The hour will come in which all the peoples
of the earth will awake, and the Jews will be the victims. Here too
things can only go so far.

It is an old, often-used method of International Jewry to discredit
education and knowledge about its corrupting nature and drives,
thereby depending on the weaknesses of those people who easily confuse
cause with effect. The Jews are also masters at manipulating public
opinion, which they dominate through their network of news agencies
and press concerns that reaches throughout the world. The pitiful
illusion of a free press is one of the methods they use to stupefy the
publics of enemy lands. If the enemy press is as free as it pretends
to be, let it take an open position, for or against, on the Jewish
Question. It will not do that because it cannot and may not do so. The
Jews love to mock and criticize everything except themselves, although
everyone knows that they are most in need of public criticism. This is
where the so-called freedom of the press in enemy countries ends.
Newspapers, parliaments, statesmen and church leaders must be silent
here. Crimes and vices, filth and corruption are covered by the
blanket of love. The Jews have total control of public opinion in
enemy countries, and he who has that is also master of all of public
life. Only the nations that have to accept such a condition are to be
pitied. The Jews mislead them into believing that the German nation is
backward. Our alleged backwardness is actually proof of our progress.
We have recognized the Jews as a national and international danger,
and from this knowledge have drawn compelling conclusions. This German
knowledge will become the knowledge of he world at the end of this
war. We think it our primary duty to do everything in our power to
make that happen.

Humanity would sink into eternal darkness, it would fall into a dull
and primitive state, were the Jews to win this war. They are the
incarnation of that destructive force that in these terrible years has
guided the enemy war leadership in a fight against all that we see as
noble, beautiful and worth keeping. For that reason alone the Jews
hate it. They despite our culture and learning, which they perceive as
towering over their nomadic worldview. They fear our economic and
social standards, which leave no room for their parasitic drives, They
are the enemy of our domestic order, which has excluded their
anarchistic tendencies. Germany is the first nation in the world that
is entirely free of the Jews. That is the prime cause of its political
and economic balance. Since their expulsion from the German national
body has made it impossible for them to shake this balance from
within, they lead the nations they have deceived in battle against us
from without. It is fine with them, in fact it is part of their plan,
that Europe in the process will lose a large part of its cultural
values. The Jews had no part in their creation. They do not understand
them. A deep racial instinct tells them that since these heights of
human creative activity are forever out of their reach, they must
attack them today with hatred. The day is not distant when the nations
of Europe, yes, even those of the whole world, will shout: The Jews
are guilty for all our misfortunes! They must be called to account,
and soon and thoroughly!
International Jewry is ready with its alibi. Just as during the great
reckoning in Germany, they will attempt to look innocent and say that
one needs a scapegoat, and they are it. But that will no longer help
them, just as it did not help them during the National Socialist
revolution, The proof of their historical guilt, in details large and
small, is so plain that they can no longer be denied even with the
most clever lies and hypocrisy.

Who is it that drives the Russians, the English and the Americans into
battle and sacrifices huge numbers of human lives in a hopeless
struggle against the German people? The Jews! Their newspapers and
radio broadcasts spread the songs of war while the nations they have
deceived are led to the slaughter. Who is it that invents new plans of
hatred and destruction against us every day, making this war into a
dreadful case of self-mutilation and self-destruction of European life
and its economy, education and culture? The Jews! Who devised the
unnatural marriage between England and the USA on one side and
Bolshevism on the other, building it up and jealously ensuring its
continuance? Who covers the most perverse political situations with
cynical hypocrisy from a trembling fear that a new way could lead the
nations to realize the true causes of this terrible human catastrophe?
The Jews, only the Jews! They are named Morgenthau and Lehmann and
stand behind Roosevelt as a so-called brain trust. They are named
Mechett and Sasoon and serve as Churchill's money bags and order
givers. They are named Kaganovitsch and Ehrenburg and are Stalin's
pacesetters and intellectual spokesmen. Wherever you look, you see
Jews. They march as political commisars behind the Red army and
organize murder and terror in the areas conquered by the Soviets. They
sit behind the lines in Paris and Brussels, Rome and Athens, and
fashion their reins from the skin of the unhappy nations that have
fallen under their power.

That is the truth. It can no longer be denied, particularly since in
their drunken joy of power and victory the Jews have forgotten their
ordinarily so carefully maintained reserve and now stand in the
spotlight of public opinion. They no longer bother, apparently
believing that it is no longer necessary, that their hour has come.
And this is their mistake, which they always make when think
themselves near their great goal of anonymous world domination.
Thoughout the history of the nations, whenever this tragic situation
developed, a good providence saw to it that the Jews themselves became
the grave diggers of their own hopes. They did not destroy the healthy
peoples, rather the sting of their parasitic effects brought the
realization of the looming danger to the forefront and led to the
greatest sacrifices to overcome it. At a certain point, they become
that power that always wants evil but creates good. It will be that
way this time too.

The fact that the German nation was the first on earth to recognize
this danger and expel it from its organism is proof of its healthy
instincts. It therefore became the leader of a world struggle whose
results will determine of fate and the future of International Jewry.
We view with complete calm the wild Old Testament tirades of hatred
and revenge of Jews throughout the world against us. They are only
proof that we are on the right path. They cannot unsettle us. We gaze
on them with sovereign contempt and remember that these outbursts of
hate and revenge were everyday events for us in Germany until that
fateful day for International Jewry, 30 January 1933, when the world
revolution against the Jews that threateend not only Germany, but all
the other nations, began.
It will not cease before it has reached its goal. The truth can not be
stopped by lies or force. It will get through. The Jews will meet
their Cannae at the end of this war. Not Europe, rather they will
lose. They may laugh at this prophecy today, but they have laughed so
often in the past, and almost as often they stopped laughing sooner or
later. Not only do we know precisely what we want, we also know
precisely what we do not want. The deceived nations of he Earth may
still lack the knowledge they need, but we will bring it to them. How
will the Jews stop that in the long run? They believe their power
rests on sure foundations, but it stands on feet of clay. One hard
blow and it will collapse, burying the creators of the misfortunes of
the world in its ruins.

Dave Heil

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Topaz wrote:
> Obviously losing the war didn't prove they were wrong.

It certainly put smiles on a great many faces.

Topaz

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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:00:16 -0500, Dave Heil <k8...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:

>Topaz wrote:


>> Obviously losing the war didn't prove they were wrong.
>
>It certainly put smiles on a great many faces.

Who's to Blame for the Affirmative Action Fiasco?
By Hugh Murray

Searching for employment in the late 19th century, many Irish
immigrants in America encountered the sign, "NINA" (No Irish Need
Apply). Today, their descendants face much the same discrimination. Of
course, now, it is not limited to the Irish - for in America men are
routinely denied jobs, promotions, contracts and scholarships because
they are of Irish, Italian, English, German or general European
heritage. Worse, not only is this discrimination government sponsored,
it is performed in the name of "Equal Opportunity." How did this come
about? Why do the media prefer to ignore it? Who fostered this
discrimination against white men?

In high school a white boy may be denied entrance into special
programs because he is not a preferred minority; or, in some cases, he
may be denied because he is not a girl. There are scholarships
available, but many cannot be awarded to a white male (for example,
Bill Gates of Microsoft was recently lauded by the media for
establishing a billion-dollar scholarship program - one in which
recipients are restricted to blacks only.) When the teen applies to
university, the administration will admit "basically qualified"
minorities, but reject better-qualified whites. When applying for
jobs, the same discrimination occurs. If the teen finds employment,
special, on-the-job training for promotion may be denied him as it is
reserved for minorities, even if they are lesser qualified and have
been on the job a shorter period of time. Once hired, he may be
required to attend "diversity training" sessions, in which he is
supposed to confess his alleged guilt of racism and sexism.

How did this systematic discrimination arise?

What did it mean to forbid discrimination? From the early days of the
20th century through 1964, most liberals were clear as to what this
meant-show no bias against or preference for a person because of his
race, sex, religion etc. This was the dominant view. But in the debate
over the civil rights bill in 1964 some opponents declared that if
passed, it would lead to, among other things: racial quotas and racial
balance in the workplace, preferences for blacks over whites in
employment, promotion, bank loans etc.

But, in Congress, the debate went otherwise. No senator who favored
the civil rights bill spoke up for quotas, "positive integration,"
racial balance or preferences for minorities above whites. Quite the
contrary.

How then did a law which promised to end discrimination by outlawing
discrimination against any individual, a law that promised preferences
for no group, which agreed to retain testing to reject unqualified
applicants-how was this law subverted into its opposite? Here the role
of Alfred Blumrosen is crucial. Blumrosen was among the zealots
working for the Equal Opportunity Employment Commission who did not
want the agency to function as created.

Alfred Blumrosen was instrumental in this and other shifts. He was a
professor at Rutgers University who became the EEOC's liaison chief
for federal, state and local agencies, and he admitted that his
"creative" reading of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was "contrary to
the plain meaning." But why worry? By 1965 when the Bank of America
instituted quota hiring under a euphemism, "the standard refrain of
the EEO bureaucracies, [was that] affirmative action [AA] had nothing
to do with racial quotas. That was illegal." Unfortunately, that
deceptive refrain is still heard today.

The goal of Sonia Pressman, another ideologue in the EEOC, was "to
document large disparities in employment patterns, [so] that
discriminatory intent might legally be inferred." ...the EEOC sought
to impose quotas while not calling them such because quotas were
clearly illegal. The agency sought to break the law.

Blumrosen and Pressman pushed the EEOC to defy the Civil Rights Act of
1964 by imposing quotas, demanding racial balance in the workplace and
giving preferences to blacks over whites. Essential to the Blumrosen-
Pressman campaign was the collection of statistics to show "disparate
impact," how minorities were underutilized, employed in a smaller
proportion in various occupations to their numbers in the general
population.

Blumrosen was set upon "selectively enforcing" the civil rights act by
using disparate impact theory and proportional representation only
when it affected others. (More accurately, Blumrosen was "selectively
malenforcing" the civil rights law, imposing quotas for
underrepresented blacks, using quotas to curb whites; for women,
against men; but never for gentiles and against Jews.)

Of course, had the EEOC sought to restrict Jews as it has white men,
the storm of protest would have cast "disparate impact" theory into
the dustbin of history. Thus, the role of Blumrosen and his allies in
the media, academia etc., was to create a false target - the
"overrepresented," "privileged" and "oppressive" white male. According
to the EEOC, the statistics proved just that. However, the statistics
proved otherwise. The partial statistics used by Blumrosen were simply
the effort to deflect criticism to another group instead of the one
most overrepresented, privileged and oppressive - his own.

By not asking the religious question on the EEOC questionnaires, the
EEOC created a scapegoat of the white male. Once smeared as
"privileged" and "oppressive," the non-privileged, working-class and
poor whites began to pay the price for the "moral" system of
affirmative action by being legally discriminated against and denied
equal opportunity.

The proportional test, the liberals' test of all tests, when applied
to the religious clause of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, shows Jews to
be the most privileged and oppressive of people in America. The fav-
orite test of liberals reveals white men to be less privileged than
the Jews. Why does not The New York Times, the EEOC, NBC, CBS or ABC
report that statistic? The media remain silent on the issue of Jewish
privilege while simultaneously exposing every time white men are
somewhat overrepresented. Why the silence regarding Jews? A glance at
the ownership of the media just might have something to do with this
disparity in exposing "privilege." And if any individual in the media
dared to expose some Jewish privilege, there would be a thunderous
assault upon that individual's "bigotry." However, daily, reporters
write of white male privilege, but almost no one denounces this anti-
white bigotry.

Once smeared as privileged, the non-privileged middle-class, working-
class, and poor whites pay for the "moral" system of AA by being
legally discriminated against and denied equal opportunity. But then
the history of America since the 1960s is often the record of wealthy
liberals using the law to curb and oppress blue-collar whites, because
the blue-collar folk are deemed privileged, prejudiced and provincial.
Therefore, such blue-collar whites deserve to be passed over in
scholarships, jobs and promotions; the blue-collar crowd should be
shunted aside, and instead the "pets" of the elite should be elevated:
the children of illegal immigrants, of wealthy minorities and the
daughters of rich liberals. And this is done in the name of morality,
fairness, and justice.

In summary, the great hoax concocted by Blumrosen and his
collaborators in the media, academy, and government is "white male
privilege." Most white men are not privileged. Those who are, often
support AA because it is no loss to them - their children will not
require a scholarship, an entry-level job, a position as policeman or
fireman, or a promotion. It is the poor and middle-class whites who,
denied equal opportunity, must pay with thinning wallets and shrunken
dreams for the "morality of diversity" imposed by the wealthy, liberal
elite.

Even if every CEO in America were a white male, that would be no
reason to discriminate against a poor, white teenage boy seeking a
scholarship and give it to a lesser qualified girl or minority. "White
male privilege" is a social construct created by liberals. They have
used their power in government, media, and academia to deny equal
opportunity to white men, to undermine and stigmatize America's
working class, and to immobilize with guilt the white middle class.
America does not suffer from white male privilege and oppression; it
staggers beneath Jewish privilege and oppression.

Excerpted from article found at:
http://www.barnesreview.org/Nov__Dec_2001/Who_s_to_Blame_for_the_Affirma/wh
o_s_to_blame_for_the_affirma.html

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