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Devil's Advocate

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Nov 8, 2009, 1:35:31 AM11/8/09
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Every one of the people who voted for this, should be *immediately* thrown
out of office!

The American people DO NOT want this bill and they're doing it anyway!

It will destroy our rights ( including RKBA! ) and our country!

It MUST NOT be allowed to become law!

Stile4aly

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Nov 8, 2009, 1:50:51 AM11/8/09
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On Nov 7, 11:35 pm, "Devil's Advocate" <Devil's_Advoc...@devil.xxx>
wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/11/08/news/news-us-usa-healthcare...

>
> Every one of the people who voted for this, should be *immediately* thrown
> out of office!
>
> The American people DO NOT want this bill and they're doing it anyway!
>
> It will destroy our rights ( including RKBA! ) and our country!
>
> It MUST NOT be allowed to become law!

A majority of Americans want a public option. The AMA and AARP, two of
the largest stakeholders in health care reform support this bill.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that your rights are being
violated.

American Patriot

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:49:16 AM11/8/09
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Was this majority your small circle of liberal friends? All polls I have
seen (other than soundbytes with no sampling or error stats by ABC) show a
majority of Americans are satisfied with their health care and do not see
the need to reinvent their health care and did not want Obama or Pelosi
care.


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JayPee Vee

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:52:26 AM11/8/09
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On 8 Nov., 14:49, "American Patriot" <prot...@home.com> wrote:
> Was this majority your small circle of liberal friends?  All polls I have
> seen (other than soundbytes with no sampling or error stats by ABC)  show a
> majority of Americans are satisfied with their health care and do not see
> the need to reinvent their health care and did not want Obama or Pelosi
> care.

50 000 000 of American beg to differ.
Fuck them, right?

American Patriot

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Nov 8, 2009, 11:00:08 AM11/8/09
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this another made up statistic without quote or credible reference? Pelosi
once claimed 500 million Americans were losing their job every month- maybe
she meant 50 thousand Americans support public option.

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leg@sea

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Nov 8, 2009, 1:11:29 PM11/8/09
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Right on.

leg@sea

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Nov 8, 2009, 1:13:40 PM11/8/09
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Stile4aly wrote:
> On Nov 7, 11:35 pm, "Devil's Advocate" <Devil's_Advoc...@devil.xxx>
> wrote:
>> http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/11/08/news/news-us-usa-healthcare...
>>
>> Every one of the people who voted for this, should be *immediately* thrown
>> out of office!
>>
>> The American people DO NOT want this bill and they're doing it anyway!
>>
>> It will destroy our rights ( including RKBA! ) and our country!
>>
>> It MUST NOT be allowed to become law!
>
> A majority of Americans want a public option.

You're a fucking LIAR!

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/june_2009/41_favor_public_sector_health_care_option_41_disagree

Devil's Advocate

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Nov 8, 2009, 3:36:56 PM11/8/09
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Stile4aly <stil...@yahoo.com> wrote :

> On Nov 7, 11:35�pm, "Devil's Advocate" <Devil's_Advoc...@devil.xxx>
> wrote:
>> http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/11/08/news/news-us-usa-healthcare
>> ...
>>
>> Every one of the people who voted for this, should be *immediately*
>> throw
> n
>> out of office!
>>
>> The American people DO NOT want this bill and they're doing it
>> anyway!
>>
>> It will destroy our rights ( including RKBA! ) and our country!
>>
>> It MUST NOT be allowed to become law!
>
> A majority of Americans want a public option.

Liar!

And in Bullshit to English translation,
public option = socialist medicine!

> The AMA and AARP, two
> of the largest stakeholders in health care reform support this bill.

Both have been bribed and threatened to get them to!



> Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that your rights are
> being violated.

Our whole country will collapse soon if this is passed!

Devil's Advocate

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Nov 8, 2009, 3:39:00 PM11/8/09
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"American Patriot" <pro...@home.com> wrote :

> Was this majority your small circle of liberal friends? All polls I
> have seen (other than soundbytes with no sampling or error stats by
> ABC) show a majority of Americans are satisfied with their health
> care and do not see the need to reinvent their health care and did
> not want Obama or Pelosi care.

Yeah, like we REALLY need socialist medicine, huge tax increases for 5
years to pay for it starting 5 years later, forcing people to buy their
own insurance, forcing states to pay part of the bill, AND cutting
medicare to seniors and disabled people!

We need it like we need the plague!

Devil's Advocate

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Nov 8, 2009, 3:39:49 PM11/8/09
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"American Patriot" <pro...@home.com> wrote :

> this another made up statistic without quote or credible reference?
> Pelosi once claimed 500 million Americans were losing their job every
> month- maybe she meant 50 thousand Americans support public option.
>
> "JayPee Vee" <jaype...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:a4690580-1610-4b05...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com

> ... On 8 Nov., 14:49, "American Patriot" <prot...@home.com> wrote:
>> Was this majority your small circle of liberal friends? All polls I
>> have seen (other than soundbytes with no sampling or error stats by
>> ABC) show a majority of Americans are satisfied with their health
>> care and do not see the need to reinvent their health care and did
>> not want Obama or Pelosi care.
>
> 50 000 000 of American beg to differ.
> Fuck them, right?
>
>

You mean all the illegals who want coverage?

American Patriot

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Nov 8, 2009, 5:25:05 PM11/8/09
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oh sorry- I forgot that's where the other 45M came from!

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American Patriot

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Nov 8, 2009, 5:28:15 PM11/8/09
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you are forgetting- the secret agenda here is really the collapse of the
dollar and this justifies devaluing the currency and then reduces our
sovereignty to zilch which sets the stage for one world government

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American Patriot

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Nov 8, 2009, 5:31:29 PM11/8/09
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This article is flawed. The government plan, as it is written does not
compete with private- it replaces private insurance plans. I heard ( but
have not verified myself, but believe that is what these SOB's have in mind)
that within first 100 pages of the bill, it states that if for any reason
you have a change- ie birth of a dependent, divorce, marriage or any
qualifying event- you immediately default to the government plan.
That is not competition... that is nationalization, and soclialism. Lets
have that poll run again with the argurment framed properly. Polls can be
used to get any answer you want, simply by controlling the questions.

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Sid9

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Nov 8, 2009, 5:37:39 PM11/8/09
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Replace private insurance?

It's about time to get those crooks out of the system.

However that�s not what's in the bill.

It's your choice to stay where you are.

It's your choice to buy private.

No Dr's become employees of the government (Socialism)

Private hospitals remain private.

Public (socialized) hospitals, like my county hospitals, remain
government hospitals.


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None4U

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Nov 8, 2009, 5:57:09 PM11/8/09
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>Absofuckinlutely.


American Patriot

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Nov 8, 2009, 6:27:27 PM11/8/09
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> Replace private insurance?
>
> It's about time to get those crooks out of the system.
>
> However that's not what's in the bill.
>
> It's your choice to stay where you are.
>
> It's your choice to buy private.
>
> No Dr's become employees of the government (Socialism)
>
> Private hospitals remain private.
>
> Public (socialized) hospitals, like my county hospitals, remain government
> hospitals.
>
>
>

We will see........as it unfolds in the laundry..........


American Patriot

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Nov 8, 2009, 6:28:59 PM11/8/09
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Its time for every 9/12er to steal a copy of Alinsky's rules for radicals
(buy and copy the shit out of it ) and start using his tactics against the
marxists who are bringing this country down.

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Devil's Advocate

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:26:15 PM11/8/09
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"American Patriot" <pro...@home.com> wrote :

> you are forgetting- the secret agenda here is really the collapse of
> the dollar and this justifies devaluing the currency and then reduces
> our sovereignty to zilch which sets the stage for one world
> government

I'm not forgetting. The Cloward-Piven Strategy.

Devil's Advocate

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:28:13 PM11/8/09
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"American Patriot" <pro...@home.com> wrote :

> Its time for every 9/12er to steal a copy of Alinsky's rules for
> radicals (buy and copy the shit out of it ) and start using his
> tactics against the marxists who are bringing this country down.

True.

Tim Crowley

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:45:52 PM11/8/09
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On Nov 7, 10:35 pm, "Devil's Advocate" <Devil's_Advoc...@devil.xxx>
wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/11/08/news/news-us-usa-healthcare...
>

> Every one of the people who voted for this, should be *immediately* thrown
> out of office!
>
> The American people DO NOT want this bill and they're doing it anyway!

The American people DO want the bill and we voted those people in.

Fuck you're dumb.

squirltok

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:50:37 PM11/8/09
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American Patriot wrote:
> Was this majority your small circle of liberal friends? All polls I have
> seen (other than soundbytes with no sampling or error stats by ABC) show a
> majority of Americans are satisfied with their health care and do not see
> the need to reinvent their health care and did not want Obama or Pelosi
> care.
>

From the people that scream questions at politicans about healthcare
that they don't listen to answers, people who don't have healthcare
except the occasional visit to the emergency room.

Republican politicans who have government healtcare that not one said
they would pay their own way, just to prove their dedication to deny
the rest of us the option to see a doctor now and then
on our taxpayers dime.

I say every politician pay their own way or give us back some of
taxpayer money in the form of some of what they get for free. We pay
soo much to dysfunctional government and get bloodsoaked wars and
politicans saying we are a bunch of whiners for expecting more
from them.

Devil's Advocate

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:41:43 PM11/8/09
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squirltok <squi...@yahoo.com> wrote :

> Republican politicans who have government healtcare that not one said
> they would pay their own way, just to prove their dedication to deny
> the rest of us the option to see a doctor now and then
> on our taxpayers dime.

What gives you a right to use government to force other people to pay your
way?

squirltok

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Nov 9, 2009, 4:33:11 AM11/9/09
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it's not what others pay, it's what we pay

leg@sea

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Nov 9, 2009, 5:23:48 PM11/9/09
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Sid9 wrote:
> Replace private insurance?

No thanks.

> It's about time to get those crooks out of the system.

Blue Cross and Blue Shield are "crooks"?

> However that�s not what's in the bill.

YOU don't KNOW what';s in the 2,000+ pages, asswart.

> It's your choice to stay where you are.

Bu gubmint will undercut your cost and make it unlikely you will.

> It's your choice to buy private.

But gubmint can print money and price lower.

> No Dr's become employees of the government (Socialism)

In time they ALL do, asswart.

> Private hospitals remain private.

For a little while.

> Public (socialized) hospitals, like my county hospitals, remain
> government hospitals.

SO FUCKING WHAT?!~?!?

RichTravsky

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:08:37 AM11/10/09
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"leg@sea" wrote:
>
> Sid9 wrote:
> > Replace private insurance?
>
> No thanks.

Wait til you get denied coverage.



> > It's about time to get those crooks out of the system.
>
> Blue Cross and Blue Shield are "crooks"?

Those are the only two?

> > However that�s not what's in the bill.


>
> YOU don't KNOW what';s in the 2,000+ pages, asswart.

And you do? Tell us where the death panel section is.



> > It's your choice to stay where you are.
>
> Bu gubmint will undercut your cost and make it unlikely you will.

Cut costs? Great!



> > It's your choice to buy private.
>
> But gubmint can print money and price lower.

And...?



> > No Dr's become employees of the government (Socialism)
>
> In time they ALL do, asswart.

Really? Since when?



> > Private hospitals remain private.
>
> For a little while.

Really? Why would they not stay private?



> > Public (socialized) hospitals, like my county hospitals, remain
> > government hospitals.
>
> SO FUCKING WHAT?!~?!?

So, you just admitted you already have "socialized" health care.

leg@sea

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:36:54 PM11/10/09
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RichTravsky is a pedophile.

myobic

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:50:15 PM11/10/09
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I read the first draft- it ended private coverage in 5 years. I have no
reason to believe it was removed in the voted version.

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RichTravsky

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:37:42 PM11/10/09
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"leg@sea" wrote:
>
> RichTravsky is a pedophile.

WAAAAH WAAAAH

Cry for us, rightard!

American Patriot

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Nov 11, 2009, 10:46:24 PM11/11/09
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we suppose you are next going to tell us the earth is flat and the moon is
made from green cheese

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Morton Davis

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Nov 12, 2009, 11:14:30 AM11/12/09
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Funny how it's the "people you voted in" who do not want this bill, eh?
Republicans have no say.

Tim Crowley

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Nov 13, 2009, 8:22:25 AM11/13/09
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On Nov 12, 8:14 am, "Morton Davis" <antike...@go.com> wrote:
> "American Patriot" <prot...@home.com> wrote in message

>
> news:xyLKm.4015$MZ2....@news.usenetserver.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > we suppose you are next going to tell us the earth is flat and the moon is
> > made from green cheese
>
> > "Tim Crowley" <timmyturm...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:cc3bd39f-5adf-4b43...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> > On Nov 7, 10:35 pm, "Devil's Advocate" <Devil's_Advoc...@devil.xxx>
> > wrote:
> >>http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/11/08/news/news-us-usa-healthcare...
>
> >> Every one of the people who voted for this, should be *immediately*
> >> thrown
> >> out of office!
>
> >> The American people DO NOT want this bill and they're doing it anyway!
>
> > The American people DO want the bill and we voted those people in.
>
> Funny how it's the "people you voted in" who do not want this bill, eh?
> Republicans have no say.

Waaaaaah. Yes, it's supposed to taste like a shit sandwich. You
lost. The People won. Deal.

myobic

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Nov 13, 2009, 10:33:19 AM11/13/09
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We'll see Nov 2010. People did not get the "Change" they voted for!

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myobic

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Nov 13, 2009, 10:34:01 AM11/13/09
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People did not get the change that was promised during the campaign either!

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Wayne

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*********

<<Waaaaaah. Yes, it's supposed to taste like a shit sandwich. You
<<lost. The People won. Deal.
-
-
Hey, I thought it was that Bush lost, not that Obama "won".


American Patriot

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Nov 14, 2009, 12:23:42 AM11/14/09
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that too

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