Re: Wendy's Triple Cheese Burgers and Large Chili Cheese Fries for Rush
Dionysus
"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
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> Send to:
> Rush Limbaugh
> c/o Kapi'olani Medical Center at Pali Momi
> 98-1079 Moanalua Road
> Aiea, HI 96701
>
> FedEx requires a telephone number:
> 808-486-6000
>
> --
> Regards, Curly
***************
Were Rush to die, there'd be hundreds at his funeral and millions of
mourners across the country. Were you to die, people would merely wonder why
some low life hadn't cleaned up after his mongrel dog.
Happy New Year.
No Surrender!
Dionysus
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Vote Republican, Suffering Builds Character
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff M
> ***************
> Were Rush to die, there'd be hundreds at his funeral and millions of
> mourners across the country.
And millions more thinking he's burning in Hell, or deserves to.
Arizona Willie
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There would probably be a few other gay pedophiles at his funeral ( that's
why he goes to Haiti ... known for furnishing young boys to Limbaugh types
).
The millions though would not be mourning --- they would be partying.
Thousands will be lining up to piss on his grave.
Gunner Asch
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>"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
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>> Send to:
>> Rush Limbaugh
>> c/o Kapi'olani Medical Center at Pali Momi
>> 98-1079 Moanalua Road
>> Aiea, HI 96701
>>
>> FedEx requires a telephone number:
>> 808-486-6000
>>
>> --
>> Regards, Curly
>***************
>Were Rush to die, there'd be hundreds at his funeral and millions of
>mourners across the country. Were you to die, people would merely wonder why
>some low life hadn't cleaned up after his mongrel dog.
>
>Happy New Year.
>
>No Surrender!
>
>Dionysus
Point, set and match!
Gunner
Gunner Asch
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And many many thousands to simply shoot those lined up.
<G>
Glad Ill be, when the Great Cull comes..and all you Leftwingers are
killed mercillesly and with great joy.
<VBG>
And it will happen in less than 3 yrs.
<VVBG>
Gunner
John Q Public
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> "Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
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>> Send to:
>> Rush Limbaugh
>> c/o Kapi'olani Medical Center at Pali Momi
>> 98-1079 Moanalua Road
>> Aiea, HI 96701
>>
>> FedEx requires a telephone number:
>> 808-486-6000
>>
>> --
>> Regards, Curly
> ***************
> Were Rush to die, there'd be hundreds at his funeral and millions of
> mourners across the country. Were you to die, people would merely
> wonder why some low life hadn't cleaned up after his mongrel dog.
>
> Happy New Year.
>
> No Surrender!
>
> Dionysus
Like that one D, we could also send his budiies a chug of Red Rooster
21 in a crackly new
paper bag to send him off!
>
raamman
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:46:39 -0500, "Dionysus" <no.surren...@never.net>
> wrote:
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> >"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote in message
> >news:hhif8j$3le$6...@news.eternal-september.org...
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> >> Send to:
> >> Rush Limbaugh
> >> c/o Kapi'olani Medical Center at Pali Momi
> >> 98-1079 Moanalua Road
> >> Aiea, HI 96701
>
> >> FedEx requires a telephone number:
> >> 808-486-6000
>
> >> --
> >> Regards, Curly
> >***************
> >Were Rush to die, there'd be hundreds at his funeral and millions of
> >mourners across the country. Were you to die, people would merely wonder why
> >some low life hadn't cleaned up after his mongrel dog.
>
> >Happy New Year.
>
> >No Surrender!
>
> >Dionysus
>
> Point, set and match!
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>
> - Show quoted text -
you'll be finding out soon enough, won't you ?
zzpat
are going to be? Millions? At least hundreds of thousands. If you're
rich you get great health care. If you're not, they send you home with
an aspirin and you die.
It's a fact that most people without health care coverage die. This
fact will not stop republicans from voting against reform. They want
people who are not rich to die. It's part of their breeding.
Poetic Justice
> Rush hates health care reform. What do you think his health care costs
> are going to be? Millions? At least hundreds of thousands. If you're
> rich you get great health care. If you're not, they send you home with
> an aspirin and you die.
>
And with Obama Care we will all be sent home to die, with the exception
of Congress and the President.
> It's a fact that most people without health care coverage die. This
All people die.....
> fact will not stop republicans from voting against reform. They want
> people who are not rich to die. It's part of their breeding.
You could seek free government health care for your mental illness, this
fear that people want you dead is treatable and free.
--
Gunner Asch
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Yes....we will indeed.
<VBG>
Gunner
ray
<ff83abf5-e739-4834...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
zzpat <zzpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow. What a genius you are. Republicans want their voters to die.
Simply amazing.
What Republicans want is for people to provide for their own healthcare
coverage. Only 10% of our population is without some sort of
healthcare, and many of those could afford it, but just don't want to
spend the money. Plasma televisions are more important to them.
I guess if you're going to get sick, get sick before government takes
over healthcare. Rush's unfortunate incident is a great example of
this. If we were under a government plan, Rush would not be able to buy
the treatment he is getting today. He would just be another number
because government is paying for him.
Walter Williams filled in for Rush on his show Thursday, and the good
Professor explained it like this:
"I see a poor woman on a park bench. She is hungry and ill. So in order
to help this woman, I take a gun and point it at Snirdley (Rush's right
hand man on the show) and force Snirdley to give me $500.00. Then I take
that $500.00 and give it to the lady on the bench who is hungry and ill
so that she can get something to eat and go to a doctor. Did I or did I
not commit a criminal act? Of course I'm a criminal, because I took
money from Snirdley, and it doesn't matter what I used it for. Now if I
took my own $500.00 and gave it to that woman, then I am a kind
compassionate man. Government--particularly the left, tells us that it's
kind and compassionate to take a gun, and force people to help somebody
else. Why is it if I do that on my own, I am a criminal, but when
government does it, it's kind and compassionate?"
--
Barock Insane Obama: The greatest joke America ever played on itself.
ray
<chine.bleu-98380...@news.eternal-september.org>,
The China Blue Syndrome <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <hhlpc...@news7.newsguy.com>, ray <xxxr...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > hand man on the show) and force Snirdley to give me $500.00. Then I take
>
> This is an argument that all taxes are illegal. That leaves you with two
> choices: (1) stop collecting taxes, disband elected government, and wait for
> some strongman to appoint himself king, and his band of thugs collects his
> taxes; (2) stop whining about the concept of taxes.
Or, we can do what the founders of this country wanted us to do which is
collect federal taxes only for the things outlined in the Constitution.
Following the Constitution. Boy would that drive liberals to suicide.
ray
<chine.bleu-3DF63...@news.eternal-september.org>,
China Blue �yster Cult <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yeah, them liberals really want the DEA.
Liberals want anything that involves more government. Don't believe me?
Look at the healthcare bill with over 100 new bureaucracies, not to
mention the bureaucracies created under the pork bill.
Nickname unavailable
> In article
> <chine.bleu-983800.15210801012...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> The China Blue Syndrome <chine.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <hhlpcl01...@news7.newsguy.com>, ray <xxxray...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > hand man on the show) and force Snirdley to give me $500.00. Then I take
>
> > This is an argument that all taxes are illegal. That leaves you with two
> > choices: (1) stop collecting taxes, disband elected government, and wait for
> > some strongman to appoint himself king, and his band of thugs collects his
> > taxes; (2) stop whining about the concept of taxes.
>
> Or, we can do what the founders of this country wanted us to do which is
> collect federal taxes only for the things outlined in the Constitution.
> Following the Constitution. Boy would that drive liberals to suicide.
>
i got to see this. what part of the constitution are we speaking of?
ray
<chine.bleu-5264C...@news.eternal-september.org>,
China Blue �yster Cult <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I assumed you knew what the DEA is. My mistake, you sad ignorant fuck.
I am an ignorant fuck because I forgot I was speaking with a liberal,
and assumed you could follow. My apologies, so let me wind down and
write more in depth so even you can understand:
You want to compare the DEA to Osama providing Americans with:
insulation for their homes, assistance in paying their mortgage, cars,
new heating and AC units for their homes, new windows, healthcare, the
takeover of our largest automotive company? And perhaps add Clinton's
idiotic purchases of Midnight Basketball courts and government air
conditioners??? And I'm the ignorant fuck?
For your information, government is in charge of protecting it's people
be it the DEA or the police officer checking out your home when they see
a suspicious person. They are in charge (as outlined in the
Constitution) to protect Americans from foreign threats. They are not
in charge of telling you to wear a seat belt so you don't end up in the
hospital after a car accident, or tell you how you are allowed or not
allowed to punish your children when they misbehave. The DEA protects
citizens from having their children being challenged to purchase drugs,
or to lower your property value because of such drug outlets, or to
invite somebody breaking into your home so they can obtain artifacts or
cash to purchase more drugs.
Tell me you don't understand the difference.
ray
<9c3725a9-180a-4482...@35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Nickname unavailable <Vid...@tcq.net> wrote:
Section 8 - Powers of Congress
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts
and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and
general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and
Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States,
and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the
subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix
the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and
current Coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for
limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their
respective Writings and Discoveries;
To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas,
and Offenses against the Law of Nations;
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules
concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use
shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval
Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the
Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for
governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the
United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of
the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the
discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such
District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of
particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of
the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over
all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in
which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals,
dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into
Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this
Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any
Department or Officer thereof. �
Nickname unavailable
> Nickname unavailable <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 1, 5:39 pm, ray <xxxray...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <chine.bleu-983800.15210801012...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > The China Blue Syndrome <chine.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > In article <hhlpcl01...@news7.newsguy.com>, ray <xxxray...@aol.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > hand man on the show) and force Snirdley to give me $500.00. Then I
> > > > > take
>
> > > > This is an argument that all taxes are illegal. That leaves you with two
> > > > choices: (1) stop collecting taxes, disband elected government, and wait
> > > > for
> > > > some strongman to appoint himself king, and his band of thugs collects
> > > > his
> > > > taxes; (2) stop whining about the concept of taxes.
>
> > > Or, we can do what the founders of this country wanted us to do which is
> > > collect federal taxes only for the things outlined in the Constitution.
> > > Following the Constitution. Boy would that drive liberals to suicide.
>
> > i got to see this. what part of the constitution are we speaking of?
>
> Section 8 - Powers of Congress
> The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts
> and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and
> general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and
> Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
good job. you have just proven to me that the founders crafted the
constitution to allow for taxation, and of any type or sort. there are
no guide lines that i see.
here is what you said'
"we can do what the founders of this country wanted us to do which is
collect federal taxes only for the things outlined in the
Constitution.
Following the Constitution"
> To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
good job, you have just proven to me that the founders crafted a
interventionist document, that allows for a strong centralized
government, that can regulate, tax, and pass laws. which means that
the founders were not for limited government, and the original intent
of the founders is to allow government to grow:)
ray
<310c3899-8281-47bb...@h9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Nickname unavailable <Vid...@tcq.net> wrote:
A public school victim I see. Take note where the federal government is
allowed to spend money on. It does not say anything about cash for
clunkers, does it?
Why don't we take a few quotes here:
�When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will
herald the end of the republic.�
-Benjamin Franklin
�To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of
his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or
whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to
violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to
everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by
it.�
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Joseph Milligan, April 6, 1816
�The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as
sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and
public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. If �Thou
shalt not covet� and �Thou shalt not steal� were not commandments of
Heaven, they must be made inviolable precepts in every society before it
can be civilized or made free.�
-John Adams, A Defense of the Constitutions of Government of the United
States of America, 1787
James Madison, the Father of the Constitution, elaborated upon this
limitation in a letter to James Robertson:
�With respect to the two words �general welfare,� I have always regarded
them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take
them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the
Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not
contemplated by its creators.�
The founders never intended for the federal government to be a social
club. And the Constitution lists those things the federal government
should be orchestrating and paying for: military, roads, Post Office and
so forth. This mentality of "the Constitution doesn't say we can't!" is
how our government became the way it is today.
Nickname unavailable
ROTFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your statement is hilarious, you are the
victim of conservative schooling:)
congress has the right to legislate. its in the constitution.
Article I
Section 1. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a
Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and
House of Representatives.
Section 2. The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members
chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the
Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for
Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.
No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the
age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United
States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that
State in which he shall be chosen.
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the
several States which may be included within this Union, according to
their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the
whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a
Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all
other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years
after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and
within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they
shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed
one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one
Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of
New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight,
Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-
York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland
six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and
Georgia three.
When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the
Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such
Vacancies.
The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other
Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.
Section 3. The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two
Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof, for six
Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.
Immediately after they shall be assembled in Consequence of the first
Election, they shall be divided as equally as may be into three
Classes. The Seats of the Senators of the first Class shall be vacated
at the Expiration of the second Year, of the second Class at the
Expiration of the fourth Year, and the third Class at the Expiration
of the sixth Year, so that one third may be chosen every second Year;
and if Vacancies happen by Resignation, or otherwise, during the
Recess of the Legislature of any State, the Executive thereof may make
temporary Appointments until the next Meeting of the Legislature,
which shall then fill such Vacancies.
No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of
thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States and
who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which
he shall be chosen.
The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the
Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.
The Senate shall chuse their other Officers, and also a President pro
tempore, in the Absence of the Vice President, or when he shall
exercise the Office of President of the United States.
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When
sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When
the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall
preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of
two thirds of the Members present.
Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to
removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office
of Honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party
convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment,
Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
Section 4. The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for
Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the
Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or
alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such
Meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by
Law appoint a different Day.
Section 5. Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and
Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall
constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller Number may adjourn
from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of
absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House
may provide.
Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its
Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two
thirds, expel a Member.
Each House shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to
time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment
require Secrecy; and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House
on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be
entered on the Journal.
Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the
Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any
other Place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.
Section 6. The Senators and Representatives shall receive a
Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid
out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall in all Cases,
except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from
Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective
Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any
Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any
other Place.
No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was
elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the
United States, which shall have been created, or the Emoluments
whereof shall have been encreased during such time: and no Person
holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of
either House during his Continuance in Office.
Section 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House
of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with
Amendments as on other Bills.
Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and
the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the
President of the United States; if he approve he shall sign it, but if
not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it
shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on
their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such
Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill,
it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by
which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds
of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes
of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays, and the Names of
the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the
Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned
by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall
have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as
if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent
its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.
Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the
Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a
question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the
United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be
approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two
thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the
Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.
i see nothing there forbidding cash for clunkers. however i do see
that that provision is provided for here,
"Section 8 - Powers of Congress
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties,
Imposts
and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and
general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and
Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States; "
> Why don't we take a few quotes here:
>
> ³When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will
> herald the end of the republic.²
> -Benjamin Franklin
>
you are just another stupid randbot looneytarian, that picks and
chooses carefully any quote that might show your cult is not one of
cranks. here is the real ben franklin.
http://21stcenturycicero.wordpress.com/fraud/how-benjamin-franklin-made-new-england-prosperous/
How Benjamin Franklin Made New England Prosperous
The following historical story is taken from a radio address given by
Congressman Charles G. Binderup of Nebraska, some 50 years ago and was
reprinted in Unrobing the Ghosts of Wall Street:
Colonies More Prosperous Than The Home Country
Before the American War for Independence in 1776, the colonized part
of what is today the United States of America was a possession of
England. It was called New England, and was made up of 13 colonies,
which became the first 13 states of the great Republic. Around 1750,
this New England was very prosperous. Benjamin Franklin was able to
write:
“There was abundance in the Colonies, and peace was reigning on every
border. It was difficult, and even impossible, to find a happier and
more prosperous nation on all the surface of the globe. Comfort was
prevailing in every home. The people, in general, kept the highest
moral standards, and education was widely spread.”
When Benjamin Franklin went over to England to represent the interests
of the Colonies, he saw a completely different situation: the working
population of this country was gnawed by hunger and poverty. “The
streets are covered with beggars and tramps,” he wrote. He asked his
English friends how England, with all its wealth, could have so much
poverty among its working classes.
His friends replied that England was a prey to a terrible condition:
it had too many workers! The rich said they were already overburdened
with taxes, and could not pay more to relieve the needs and poverty of
this mass of workers. Several rich Englishmen of that time actually
believed, along with Mathus, that wars and plague were necessary to
rid the country from man-power surpluses.
Franklin’s friends then asked him how the American Colonies managed to
collect enough money to support their poor houses, and how they could
overcome this plague of pauperism. Franklin replied:
“We have no poor houses in the Colonies; and if we had some, there
would be nobody to put in them, since there is, in the Colonies, not a
single unemployed person, neither beggars nor tramps.”
Thanks To Free Money Issued By The Nation
His friends could not believe their ears, and even less understand
this fact, since when the English poor houses and jails became too
cluttered, England shipped these poor wretches and down-and- outs,
like cattle, and discharged, on the quays of the Colonies, those who
had survived the poverty, dirtiness and privations of the journey. At
that time, England was throwing into jail those who could not pay
their debts. They therefore asked Franklin how he could explain the
remarkable prosperity of the New England Colonies. Franklin replied:
“That is simple. In the Colonies, we issue our own paper money. It is
called ‘Colonial Scrip.’ We issue it in proper proportion to make the
goods and pass easily from the producers to the consumers. In this
manner, creating ourselves our own paper money, we control its
purchasing power and we have no interest to pay to no one.”
The Bankers Impose Poverty
The information came to the knowledge of the English Bankers, and held
their attention. They immediately took the necessary steps to have the
British Parliament to pass a law that prohibited the Colonies from
using their scrip money, and then ordered them to use only the gold
and silver money that was provided in sufficient quantity by the
English bankers. Then began in America the plague of debt-money, which
has never since brought so many curses to the American people.
The first law was passed in 1751, and then completed by a more
restrictive law in 1763. Franklin reported that one year after the
implementation of this prohibition on Colonial money, the streets of
the Colonies were filled with unemployment and beggars, just like in
England, because there was not enough money to pay for the goods and
work. The circulating medium of exchange had been reduced by half.
Franklin added that this was the original cause of the American
Revolution – and not the tax on tea nor the Stamp Act, as it has been
taught again and again in history books. The financiers always manage
to have removed from school books all that can throw light on their
own schemes, and damage the glow that protects their power.
Franklin, who was one of the chief architects of the American
independence, wrote it clearly:
“The Colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other
matters had it not been the poverty caused by the bad influence of the
English bankers on the Parliament, which has caused in the Colonies
hatred of England and the Revolutionary War.”
This point of view of Franklin was confirmed by great statesmen of his
era: John Adams, Jefferson, and several others. A remarkable English
historian, John Twells, wrote, speaking of the money of the Colonies,
the Colonial Scrip:
“It was the monetary system under which America’s Colonies flourished
to such an extent that Edmund Burke was able to write about them:
‘Nothing in the history of the world resembles their progress. It was
a sound and beneficial system, and its effects led to the happiness of
the people.’”
John Twells adds:
“In a bad hour, the British Parliament took away from America its
representative money, forbade any further issue of bills of credit,
these bills ceasing to be legal tender, and ordered that all taxes
should be paid in coins. Consider now the consequences: this
restriction of the medium of exchange paralyzed all the industrial
energies of the people. Ruin took place in these once flourishing
Colonies; most rigorous distress visited every family and every
business, discontent became desperation, and reached a point, to use
the words of Dr. Johnson, when human nature rises up and assets its
rights.”
Another writer, Peter Cooper, expresses himself along the same lines.
After having said how Franklin had explained to the London Parliament
the cause of the prosperity of the Colonies, he wrote:
“After Franklin gave explanations on the true cause of the prosperity
of the Colonies, the Parliament exacted laws forbidding the use of
this money in the payment of taxes. This decision brought so many
drawbacks and so much poverty to the people that it was the main cause
of the Revolution. The suppression of the Colonial money was a much
more important reason for the general uprising than the Tea and Stamp
Act.”
Today, in America as well as in Europe, we are under the regime of the
Scrip of the Bankers instead of the scrip of the nation. Hence the
public debts, everlasting interest charges, taxes that plunder
purchasing power, with the only result being a consolidation of the
financial dictatorship.
There is only one cure for America’s ultimate financial collapse and
that is for Congress to exercise Clause 30 of the “Federal” Reserve
Act, buy the outstanding shares of stock, shut down this
unconstitutional system and sell off their assets to reimburse the
people of this nation for this unspeakable theft of their wealth. This
is the first installment of postings on this issue, new ones will be
put up as soon as manpower allows.
Copyright © 1941 by Congressman Charles G. Binderup
> ³To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of
> his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or
> whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to
> violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to
> everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by
> it.²
> -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Joseph Milligan, April 6, 1816
>
jefferson was not a looneytarian.
> ³The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as
> sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and
> public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. If ŒThou
> shalt not covet¹ and ŒThou shalt not steal¹ were not commandments of
> Heaven, they must be made inviolable precepts in every society before it
> can be civilized or made free.²
> -John Adams, A Defense of the Constitutions of Government of the United
> States of America, 1787
>
> James Madison, the Father of the Constitution, elaborated upon this
> limitation in a letter to James Robertson:
> ³With respect to the two words Œgeneral welfare,¹ I have always regarded
> them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take
> them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the
> Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not
> contemplated by its creators.²
>
the declaration of independence, the preamble, and the constitution
were based on the writings of thomas paine idiot.
http://www.philosophers.co.uk/cafe/phil_dec2000.htm
Philosopher of the Month
December 2000 - Thomas Paine
Robin Harwood
The great and glorious Thomas Paine was a political theorist who tried
to put his theories into action. His aim was to free human beings from
oppressive government, oppressive religions, and oppressive poverty.
His method was to appeal to reason, so that all people could recognise
truth and justice. His achievements were spectacular. Paine invented
America, took part in the French Revolution, and inspired
revolutionary movements in Britain. The American Revolution was a
success, the French revolution was a disaster, and the British
Revolution never happened. Even so, Paine's ideas of democracy and
social welfare have been at least partly realized not only in these
countries, but in many other countries as well.
He was born in England, but his life there was difficult, and on
Benjamin Franklin's advice, he emigrated to the New World. Paine
arrived in Philadelphia in 1774, and took a job as editor for the
Pennsylvania Magazine. One of his first essays was a call for the
abolition of slavery. Inspired by the first moves of the American
Revolution, he wrote the pamphlet Common Sense (1776), in which he
argued that independence was both morally justified and the only
practical option for the American Colonies. The book was massively
influential, and converted many waverers, including Thomas Jefferson
and George Washington, to the idea of the United States of America
(Paine coined the name) as an independent nation.
After the War of Independence was over, he went to France, and then to
England, where he wrote The Rights of Man. Paine's message was clear
and powerful.
All individual human beings, he argued, are created with equal rights.
However, human beings do not live as isolated individuals, but as
members of society. In society we flourish fully, both because we can
enjoy the company of other people, and from being able to gain help
and support from each other. Nonetheless, human beings are not perfect
and so sometimes infringe each other's rights. As individuals we may
not have the power to exercise some of our rights, such as the right
to protect ourselves. Thus, we create the state to protect those
rights, and the individual's natural right is transformed into a civil
right of protection. Also, as members of the state, we gain additional
rights, such as the right to vote, and the right to run for office.
The only legitimate form of state is a democratic republic. Hereditary
monarchy is morally illegitimate, since it denies the current
generation the right to choose their own leaders.
Of course, Paine held that we also have duties. We have a duty to
protect the rights of our fellow citizens, and to maintain society,
but we also have to improve, enrich, and benefit society. This
includes the duty to eliminate poverty as much as we can. Paine
proposed a system of welfare to do just this. This welfare was not
charity, but a civil right.
The popularity of the book frightened the British Government. Paine
was outlawed for treason, and he fled to France. The British
revolutionary movements were squashed.
The French elected Paine to a seat in the National Convention. During
the Terror he was imprisoned and came close to being executed. After
his release, he took little active part in French politics, and
concentrated mostly on writing, particularly on religion and
economics. He produced The Age of Reason, arguing for Deism, and
against atheism and Christianity. He demonstrated that Christian
theology was unreasonable, and the doctrine of redemption was immoral.
He also showed that the Bible cannot be divine revelation, and
condemned it for its portrayal of God as cruel and vindictive.
In Agrarian Justice, he returned to the question of rights and social
justice. Civilization, he argued, should not throw people into a worse
condition than they would be in if they were uncivilized, and yet in
Europe many people were poorer than American Indians. The Earth had
been given by God as common property to all men, but the system of
land ownership meant that only some could use it. Paine argued that
they should compensate the others by paying a ground rent to society.
Also, he argued that no-one could produce riches without the support
of society, so anyone who accumulates property owes a part of it back
to society. This would provide funds for a social program that
included education, pensions, unemployment benefits, and maternity
benefits.
When Paine finally returned to America in 1802, his writings on
religion had made him an unpopular figure. Nonetheless, Paine did yet
another great service to his ungrateful country, in proposing that the
U.S.A. buy the Louisiana territory from Napoleon. Jefferson took
Paine's advice, and thus more than doubled the size of the United
States.
Paine carried on writing to the end, but his old age was miserable,
and he died in obscurity. Officialdom has preferred to ignore him,
even when carrying out his proposals, and his name is seldom on the
lists of great men, and yet many of his ideas are common currency now.
However, much of the world is still not completely free from political
oppression, organized religion, and poverty. We can still learn from
him.
Suggested reading
Thomas Paine, A. J. Ayer, (Secker and Warburg)
The
Thomas Paine Reader, ed. Michael Foot and Isaac Kramnick (Penguin)
Tom
Paine: a political life, John Keane, (Little, Brown and Company)
> The founders never intended for the federal government to be a social
> club. And the Constitution lists those things the federal government
> should be orchestrating and paying for: military, roads, Post Office and
> so forth. This mentality of "the Constitution doesn't say we can't!" is
> how our government became the way it is today.
>
> --
> Barock Insane Obama: The greatest joke America ever played on itself.
you are the one who is insane, and completely ignorant.
pyotr filipivich
<gun...@lightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:26:51
-0800 in misc.survivalism:
>>> Dionysus wrote:
>>>
>>>> ***************
>>>> Were Rush to die, there'd be hundreds at his funeral and millions of
>>>> mourners across the country.
>>>
>>> And millions more thinking he's burning in Hell, or deserves to.
>>=============
>>There would probably be a few other gay pedophiles at his funeral ( that's
>>why he goes to Haiti ... known for furnishing young boys to Limbaugh types
>>).
>>
>>The millions though would not be mourning --- they would be partying.
>>
>>Thousands will be lining up to piss on his grave.
>
>
>And many many thousands to simply shoot those lined up.
It would be so nice of the "progressvies'" to self-identify
themselves as having no value.
tschus
pyotr
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
Clave
news:d6gqj51f98ns21io1...@4ax.com...
<...>
>>Thousands will be lining up to piss on his grave.
>
> And many many thousands to simply shoot those lined up.
So some liberals are evil because they're peeing on a particular patch of
dirt, but conservatives are righteous in shooting them because that dirt is
holy.
Got it -- you're a degenerate fucking savage.
Jim
Gunner Asch
Shrug...and you are a dead man posting.
Im going to be sitting on my front porch when the Great Cull happens,
listening to the radio, banjo in hand..and will be playing happy riffs
and jingles as the body counts mount higher and higher.
And speaking of degenerates..its fascinating how you Leftards have no
morals..are utterly amoral. And will soon be dead. Killed by those that
wish to save the nation.
Works for me. Indeed.
Gunner
Clave
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 23:17:37 -0800, "Clave"
> <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
>
>>"Gunner Asch" <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
>>news:d6gqj51f98ns21io1...@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:10:34 -0600, Arizona Willie <scl...@npole.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>><...>
>>
>>>>Thousands will be lining up to piss on his grave.
>>>
>>> And many many thousands to simply shoot those lined up.
>>
>>So some liberals are evil because they're peeing on a particular patch of
>>dirt, but conservatives are righteous in shooting them because that dirt
>>is
>>holy.
>>
>>Got it -- you're a degenerate fucking savage.
>
Amazing how you find room up your ass for both your head *and* a kool-aid
bucket. Prolly a handgun or two up there as well, eh?
> Im going to be sitting on my front porch when the Great Cull happens...
Yeah, yelling at kids to get out of your yard, as usual.
I really can't tell you how impressively scary you are.
You have to be the bestest most scary most amoralest booger-eating goober
moron hillbilly I've ever run across.
Yes sir. I'm going to go out back and quake in my boots for a few minutes.
Jim
Gunner Asch
<ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Got it -- you're a degenerate fucking savage.
>>
>> Shrug...and you are a dead man posting.
>
>Amazing how you find room up your ass for both your head *and* a kool-aid
>bucket. Prolly a handgun or two up there as well, eh?
>
>
>> Im going to be sitting on my front porch when the Great Cull happens...
>
>Yeah, yelling at kids to get out of your yard, as usual.
What kids? I live in the country.
>
>I really can't tell you how impressively scary you are.
Me? Im a harmless lovable fuzzball. Everyone know that. Thats why Ill
be on my front porch as the People run you down and execute you.
>
>You have to be the bestest most scary most amoralest booger-eating goober
>moron hillbilly I've ever run across.
Hillbilly? I live in California, in the high desert. Now I might be a
bronc ridin harmless fuzzball..but a hillbilly? You do know that most
of those folks are Democrats..right? Same people that gave us 140 yrs of
Democrat controlled KKK.
>
>Yes sir. I'm going to go out back and quake in my boots for a few minutes.
>
>Jim
Why? You a Leftard? Frankly...if I were you..Id be pondering on which
country to move to. Or stocking up on guns and ammo and building
yourself a bunker to hide in. Course..if you come out..they WILL kill
you, or hitch you to a plow and make you earn your keep pulling the plow
over the mass graves..but..shrug..its nobodies business but yours.
Frankly..I dont care if you die or simply leave the US for parts
unknown. I hear Cuba might be right up your alley though.
It will be fascinating how Fidel gets so many Americans washing up on
the north shore of Cuba, in their rubber tires, infatable rafts and so
forth after the Great Cull gets underway.
Shrug..I know you will be much happier in Cuba than in a mass grave.
Give it some thougth.
Gunner
Clave
<...big strong hero of a man Asch wants to shoot liberals...>
>>>>Got it -- you're a degenerate fucking savage.
>>>
>>> Shrug...and you are a dead man posting.
>>
>>Amazing how you find room up your ass for both your head *and* a kool-aid
>>bucket. Prolly a handgun or two up there as well, eh?
>>
>>
>>> Im going to be sitting on my front porch when the Great Cull happens...
>>
>>Yeah, yelling at kids to get out of your yard, as usual.
>
> What kids? I live in the country.
>
>>I really can't tell you how impressively scary you are.
>
> Me? Im a harmless lovable fuzzball. Everyone know that. Thats why Ill
> be on my front porch as the People run you down and execute you...
<...blah, blah, dickwaving, blah...>
Boy have the GOP/teabaggers found a poster child in you.
Jim
Cliff
>On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 23:17:37 -0800, "Clave"
><ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
>
>>"Gunner Asch" <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
>>news:d6gqj51f98ns21io1...@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:10:34 -0600, Arizona Willie <scl...@npole.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>><...>
>>
>>>>Thousands will be lining up to piss on his grave.
>>>
>>> And many many thousands to simply shoot those lined up.
>>
>>So some liberals are evil because they're peeing on a particular patch of
>>dirt, but conservatives are righteous in shooting them because that dirt is
>>holy.
>>
>>Got it -- you're a degenerate fucking savage.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>
>Shrug...and you are a dead man posting.
>
>Im going to be sitting on my front porch when the Great Cull happens,
>listening to the radio, banjo in hand..and will be playing happy riffs
>and jingles as the body counts mount higher and higher.
Not if they yank unpaid-for heathcare, welfare queen & deadbeat.
Lib Loo
"Clave" <ClaviusNo...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
news:_vWdnYwwdM6jc9_W...@cablespeedmi.com...
> "Gunner Asch" <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
>> Im going to be sitting on my front porch when the Great Cull happens...
>
> Yes sir. I'm going to go out back and quake in my boots for a few
> minutes.
>
I suggest that if you hear Gunner playing his banjo, you start paddling a
little faster there Porky :-)
Clave
news:hi0tcp$okv$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
I'll consider yours the voice of experience.
Tell me -- I don't swing that way, but was it good for you?
PLONK
Jim