Intelligent Quotes by Intelligent people!
mani deli
every noble enterprise�."
- James Madison
"Ecclesiastical establishments tend to great ignorance and corruption,
all of which facilitate the execution of mischievous projects."
- James Madison
"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds
are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her
tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even
the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve
of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
- Thomas Jefferson
"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to
liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot.... they have
perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and
jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer engine
for their purpose."
- Thomas Jefferson
"...religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God,
that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that
the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not
opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole
American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no
law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church
and State."
- Thomas Jefferson
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mani deli <nob...@rinterlog.com> wrote:
They were great people, were they not. Here are a few more:
�When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will
herald the end of the republic.�
-Benjamin Franklin
�To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of
his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or
whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to
violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to
everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by
it.�
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Joseph Milligan, April 6, 1816
�A wise and frugal government � shall restrain men from injuring one
another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits
of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor
the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.�
-Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801
�Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare,
but only those specifically enumerated.�
-Thomas Jefferson
�When all government, domestic and foreign, in little as in great
things, shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will
render powerless the checks provided of one government on another and
will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we
separated.�
-Thomas Jefferson to Charles Hammond, 1821.
�The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as
sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and
public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. If �Thou
shalt not covet� and �Thou shalt not steal� were not commandments of
Heaven, they must be made inviolable precepts in every society before it
can be civilized or made free.�
-John Adams, A Defense of the Constitutions of Government of the United
States of America, 1787
--
Barock Insane Obama: The greatest joke America ever played on itself.
Marcus Aurelius
or were refugees from the religious wars and religious persecutions in
Europe at the time. Also, the American Revolution took place at the
apex of the Age of Reason during which human rights and liberties,
religious tolerance, and reason rather than political and/or religious
dogma were. The aforementioned inculcated in early American culture a
deep revulsion towards religious intolerance and persecution.
Such being the case, the American Revolution has been called a Deist
Revolution because of the relatively high number of Deists amongst the
founding fathers inclusive but not limited to Thomas Jefferson,
Benjamin Franklin, and Thomas Paine. Some even argue that George
Washington was, also, a Deist. However, this is disputed.
In my humble opinion, there was more religious liberty and tolerance
in the USA immediately subsequent to the American Revolution and until
about 1970 than there is now.
In my opinion, religious intolerance concomitant with political
endorsement of the same has become much more prevalent and accepted
since the 1970's.
I am a Deist as were many of the Founding Fathers!
John Q Public
Sorry to disagree but!
Most of original settlers were from Dutch territory in Europe (A
bastion of openness and
tolerance at the time)(I'm not saying they were all Dutch but, had
found refuge there, they were
Germanic, Dutch, English....)
They actually emigrated in hopes of creating are more rigidly secular society!
(Remember the Salem witch trials, the stocks....)
Those guys were pretty rigid holy rollers and fairly intolerant
(Another little known
friction between them and Church of England!) Not that Church of
England was known
for its tolerance either but, it was somewhat looser in its morays
since it split with Catholic
church!
Also the age of reason was highly suspect of religion and actually was
the probably 1st
widespread use class warfare (Off with those nasty nobles heads) and
the glimmerings
of modern day socialism further refined not long after by Marx and friends!
Remember Napoleon rose from the "Common people" to lead, he was
actually an artillery
grunt before rising to power.
Also, we were founded and through most of our history have been judeo
christian and have
not tried to restrict it.
Current separation scheme was instituted by an FDR nominated/placed
supreme court justice
who was an active KKK member who was rabidly anti catholic and actually
did everything
in his power to destroy catholic powers/rights in America.
He got away with it because he was also a staunch supporter of FDR's
NEW DEAL itself
mired in constitutional questions at the time!
John Galt
> On 2009-12-31 19:25:37 -0500, Marcus Aurelius <alexan...@hotmail.com>
> said:
>
>> Many of the original and early immigrants to America had witnessed and/
>> or were refugees from the religious wars and religious persecutions in
>> Europe at the time. Also, the American Revolution took place at the
>> apex of the Age of Reason during which human rights and liberties,
>> religious tolerance, and reason rather than political and/or religious
>> dogma were. The aforementioned inculcated in early American culture a
>> deep revulsion towards religious intolerance and persecution.
>> Such being the case, the American Revolution has been called a Deist
>> Revolution because of the relatively high number of Deists amongst the
>> founding fathers inclusive but not limited to Thomas Jefferson,
>> Benjamin Franklin, and Thomas Paine. Some even argue that George
>> Washington was, also, a Deist. However, this is disputed.
>> In my humble opinion, there was more religious liberty and tolerance
>> in the USA immediately subsequent to the American Revolution and until
>> about 1970 than there is now.
>> In my opinion, religious intolerance concomitant with political
>> endorsement of the same has become much more prevalent and accepted
>> since the 1970's.
>> I am a Deist as were many of the Founding Fathers!
>
> Sorry to disagree but!
This from Perry Miller:
"The eminent historian Perry Miller makes dubious the secularist claims
that the Framers were primarily deists.
"Actually, European Deism was an exotic plant in America, which never
struck roots in the soil. 'Rationalism' was never so widespread as
liberal historians, or those fascinated by Jefferson, have imagined."
Nature's Nation pp.110 (1967).
The problem with labeling the Founders as "deists" is that once deism
is defined, it becomes nearly impossible to make the utterances and
deeds of any Founder comport with that definition. (Attempts at making
Deism the driving force behind the Founders are) oblivious to that
difficulty."
JG