The time to IMPEACH IS NOW... NOW... NOW...
V-for-Vendicar
against them and thereby vote themselves Out of Office.
The only Good KKKonservative is a Dead KKKonservative.
Steve Thomas
You crackpots still on the murderous rant?
Steve Thomas
<Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
AND impeachment? You should seek professional help for that, seriously!
Phil Hays
The only thing to fear is Cerfvqrag Purarl.
James
"V-for-Vendicar" <Jus...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote in message
news:dlvXj.1655$n9....@read2.cgocable.net...
> Bring Impeachment charges against BUSH NOW, and let the RepubliKKKans
> vote against them and thereby vote themselves Out of Office.
>
> The only Good KKKonservative is a Dead KKKonservative.
>
>
dead.
V-for-Vendicar
"James" <king...@iglou.com> wrote
> Libs are too dumb to figure out how to go about it. They're already
> dead.
Which is why the RepubliKKKan party is being routed from AmeriKKKan
politics.
Mike
<Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
> "James" <kingko...@iglou.com> wrote
Moron,
The Republicans are the party of Abraham Lincoln. The democrats and
Robert Carlyle Byrd are the party of the KKK.
You can't get anything right, can you Moron?
--Mike Jr
V-for-Vendicar
"Mike" <n00...@comcast.net> wrote
> The Republicans are the party of Abraham Lincoln.
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Abraham Lincoln switched parties a long time ago.
Now the RepubliKKKan party is the party of David Duke. Former Grand Dragon
of the KKK.
V-for-Vendicar
> The only Good KKKonservative is a Dead KKKonservative.
"Steve Thomas" <misled...@aol.com> wrote
> AND impeachment? You should seek professional help for that, seriously!
Impeachment first. Trial and Execution of they Liar and Treasonous War
Criminal to follow.
If Bush doesn't die under U.S. law, he will die under international law.
V-for-Vendicar
> The only Good KKKonservative is a Dead KKKonservative.
"Steve Thomas" <misled...@aol.com> wrote
> You crackpots still on the murderous rant?
Killing RepubliKKKans will soon be an AmeriKKKan sport.
simple_...@yahoo.com
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to Allah Lord of the Worlds, the Owner of all of the creation, Ardalan
Keykavoussi, Tommy Davis, LORD RAMA. (The 19 terrorists who attacked
our nation on September 11, 2001 used a total of 364 aliases.)
In the Name of Allah Most Perverted and Vile, Lord of the wicked: May
the Blessings of Satan be upon His messenger, Muhammad (Piss be Upon
Him), his family, his companions, and his evil followers.
Islam broke world records of genocide, slavery, religiously sanctioned
rape, abuse of human rights, and prohibition of scientific inquiry. It
forbids Muslim emigration to the lands of the infidels because a
Muslim minority cannot enslave the infidel majority. Despite this
prohibition Muslims emigrate to the West, not as migrants, but as
conquerors. They live in sharia mini-states and expand these mini-
states by terrorizing infidel neighbors and driving them out. Arabic
proverb says "first comes Saturday, then Sunday." It means that Arabs
are going to exterminate Jews before they exterminate Christians. It
also means that Israel is the first line of defense against Islam.
“I have been made victorious with terror.” - Muhammad (according to
Sahih Bukhari)
Europe’s Muslim population is set to increase from around 13% today to
between 22% and 37% of the population by 2025. source:
http://news.scotsman.com/europeanunion/CIA-gives-grim-warning-on.2595505.jp
The average European couple now has fewer than 1.4 babies, compared to
3.6 babies born to the average Muslim immigrant couple in Europe.
Across Western Europe 16 to 20 percent of babies are being born into
Muslim families… By 2025, one-third of all European children will be
born to Muslims… In Italy, 95% of all rapists are Muslims. Eighty-five
percent of all murderers are Muslims… France will have a Muslim
majority in less than 25 years! Another telling statistic is that
although the Muslims are 12% of France's population, 70 percent of a
total of 60,775 prisoners in France are Muslims! All of France's urban
suburbs are being roamed by Muslim black African or Arabic gangs… A
very high proportion of French Muslims are in the underclass, that
segment of the population that relies not so much on education and
work as on welfare and predatory activities. In fact, over one
thousand Muslim neighborhoods are under monitoring throughout France.
Seven hundred of those Muslim neighborhoods are listed as "violent"
and nearly 400 hundred are listed as "very violent." Violence ranges
from rape (95% of rapists are Muslim), murder (85% of murderers are
Muslim), theft and looting of cars (58% committed by Muslims) and
street fighting to assault on teachers and civil servants… source:
http://www.masada2000.org/islam.html
"There does not exist an identifiable body of Muslims, substantive in
number or an outright majority, who could be described as "moderate"
by their repudiation of Muslim extremists. Violence has been an
integral part of Muslim history, irrespective of whether it is
sanctioned by Islam, and Muslims who unhesitatingly use violence to
advance their political ambitions have created a climate within their
faith culture that any Muslim who questions such practice is then
deemed apostate and subject to harm. Consequently, what might pass for
"moderate" Muslims, the large number of Muslims unaccounted for as to
what they think, in practical terms constitute a forest within which
extremists are incubated, nurtured, given ideological and material
support, and to which they return for sanctuary." - Salim Mansur
Steve Thomas
<Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
> > The only Good KKKonservative is a Dead KKKonservative.
>
>
> > AND impeachment? You should seek professional help for that, seriously!
>
> Impeachment first. Trial and Execution of they Liar and Treasonous War
> Criminal to follow.
and the laws he broke are? The evidence is? Cite please?
>
> If Bush doesn't die under U.S. law, he will die under international law.
If you believe that shit your a fucking
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Steve Thomas
<Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
> > The only Good KKKonservative is a Dead KKKonservative.
>
>
> > You crackpots still on the murderous rant?
>
> Killing RepubliKKKans will soon be an AmeriKKKan sport.
ROTFL
V-for-Vendicar
"Steve Thomas" <misled...@aol.com> wrote
> and the laws he broke are? The evidence is? Cite please?
Violation of International law. Violation of his oath of office, Treason,
Voilation of the U.S. constitution, and International war crimes.
V-for-Vendicar
> Killing RepubliKKKans will soon be an AmeriKKKan sport.
"Steve Thomas" <misled...@aol.com> wrote
> ROTFL
Ah, the laughter of ignorance.
Steve Thomas
<Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote
>
> > and the laws he broke are? The evidence is? Cite please?
>
> Violation of International law. Violation of his oath of office, Treason,
> Voilation of the U.S. constitution, and International war crimes.
The evidence? The evidence? The evidence? The evidence? The
evidence? Cite please?
Steve Thomas
<Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
> > Killing RepubliKKKans will soon be an AmeriKKKan sport.
>
>
> > ROTFL
>
> Ah, the laughter of ignorance.
I would say the one with ignorance is the one who cant cite specific
evidence to his charges. You should state the evidence or admit your a
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bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica
stevil is a jesus fucker and bush ass kissing appeaser
Steve Thomas
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V-for-Vendicar
Bruce Barclay, former Cumberland County commissioner, videotaped hundreds of
sexual encounters - many with male escorts - using cameras hidden throughout
his Monroe Township home.[1]
Matthew Joseph Elliott, former aide to Republican presidential candidate
Mitt Romney, was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.[2]
Vito Fossella, the only Republican member of Congress from New York City,
admitted to police to having a child out-of-wedlock when stopped for drunk
driving.[3]
Robert McKee, Republican delegate from Western Maryland, announced his
resignation after authorities seized two computers, videotapes and printed
materials from his Hagerstown home in a child pornography investigation.
McKee also resigned his position as executive director of Big Brothers Big
Sisters of Washington County.[4]
Daniel Dean Thompson, 31, a Utah retailer of "family-friendly" tapes and
DVDs (Hollywood films with the "dirty parts" cut out of them), arrested and
booked into the Utah County jail on charges of sexual abuse and unlawful
sexual activity with a 14-year-old.[5]
Derek Walker, former Eagle Scout and candidate seeking the GOP nomination in
a race for north-central Pennsylvania district, was charged with felony
burglary and criminal trespass stemming from an encounter last year with an
ex-girlfriend, during which he allegedly broke into her home and used his
cell phone to videotape her engaged in an intimate moment with another
man.[6]
2007
Robert "Bob" Allen, Florida state Rep. Arrested in the afternoon at a
Veteran's Memorial Park for solicitation of prostitution from an undercover
male officer inside a restroom. According to the papers Bob "offer[ed] to
perform oral sex for $20". Bob Later claimed that his offer had something to
do with his being afraid of black people.[7]
John David Roy Atchison, Republican prosecutor, was arrested for soliciting
sex from a 5-year old girl, then killed himself three weeks later. At the
time of his arrest, Atchison was an "assistant U.S. attorney" appointed by
President Bush's attorney general.[8]
E. Ozwald Balfour, chairman of the Utah Republican Black Assembly and
elected to the Republican State Central Committee in 2007, even though he
was awaiting trial on four felony counts of forcible sex abuse dating back
to his arrest in February, 2005.[9]
John Bryan, Republican city councilman, killed himself after police began
investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of
his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.[10]
Larry Craig Republican Senator for Idaho, was arrested on July 11, 2007, by
plainclothes police officer investigating complaints of lewd behavior in a
Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport airport men's room. On August 8
in Hennepin County Municipal Court in Bloomington, Minnesota, Craig entered
a guilty plea and paid a $500 fine.[11]. On September 1st, Craig
subsequently announced his retirement from the Senate[12]. Five days later,
Craig changed his mind, renounced his retirement and began a battle to have
his guilty plea overturned.[13]
John R. Curtin, Monroe County state Republican committeeman, was convicted
of molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18 months
in prison.[14]
Richard Curtis, Washington State Rep., resigned from the House after reports
of his sexual encounter with a male escort became public.[15]
Donald Fleischman, Brown County, WI, Republican Party Chairman, resigned his
post after he was charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of
contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing
himself to a child.[16]
Larry Dale Floyd, Republican Constable in Denton County, Texas Precinct Two.
Arrested for allegedly crossing state lines to have sex with an 8-year old
child and was charged with 7 related offenses. Age 62 at time of arrest.[17]
Ted Klaudt, former South Dakota State Rep., found guilty of four counts of
second-degree rape of two teenage foster daughters.[18][19]
Ronald C. Kline, Republican Judge in Orange County, CA, pleaded guilty to
possession of child pornography on his home computer after six years of
legal wrangling. In 2002, charged with child molestation and under house
arrest on federal charges of possessing child pornography, political
analysts still gave him a 50-50 chance of winning the March 5 primary for
the Orange County Superior Court seat. He lost the election to a write-in
candidate.
Joseph M. McDade, 75, was issued a summons on a charge of exposure of sexual
organs, a misdemeanor that carries up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine.
The longtime Pennsylvania Republican congressman who served for 36 years in
the House and now works for a Washington lobbying firm, has been accused of
exposing his private parts to two women at a beach resort on Sanibel Island.
[20]
Patrick Lee McGuire, former former Flagler County Commissioner, surrendered
to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.[21]
Jon Matthews, Republican talk show host in Houston, was indicted for
indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the
age of 17.[22]
Joseph Monteleone Jr., Elyria city councilman, was found guilty of fondling
underage girls and asking them, to have sex with him.[23]
Glenn Murphy Jr., chairman of the Clark County Republican Party and
president of the Young Republican National Federation, resigned both posts,
after the Clark County Sheriff's Department began investigating Murphy for
alleged criminal deviate conduct. A 22-year-old man claimed that Murphy
performed an unwanted sex act on him while the man slept in a relative's
Jeffersonville home. During the investigation, a similar accusation from
1998 came to light.[24]
Armando Tebano, Schenectady County Republican Chairman, pleaded guilty to
fondling a 14-year-old girl.[25]
David Vittner, junior Senator from Louisiana, became one of the few
high-profile politicians to be implicated as a client of "D.C. Madam"
Deborah Jeane Palfrey.[26]
2006
Steve Aiken, campaign manager for a Republican candidate for Congress in
Arizona, former Quakertown, PA, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend,
was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.[27]
Louis Beres, chairman of the Christian Coalition of Oregon. 3 of his family
members accuse him of molesting them when they were pre-teens. In August 06,
Beres confessed.[28]
Howard L. Brooks, Republican legislative aide and adviser to a California
assemblyman, was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of
child pornography. [29]
Randall Casseday, Washington Times newspaper executive, pleaded guilty to
soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.[30]
Larry Corrigan, Republican operative and Director of Operations and Budget
at King County Prosecutor's Office, OR, was arrested for soliciting sex from
13-year old girls.[31]
Carey Lee Cramer Political consultant and anti-Kerry ad producer, tried for
molesting two young girls, one of whom lived with him, and was 8 yrs old;
the other starred in an anti-Kerry commercial. Diary [32]
Mark Foley, Republican Representative, Florida Sixteenth Congressional
District. Resigned after trying to solicit sex from male congressional pages
via an instant messenger program. The conversations included his asking a
sixteen-year-old "stud" whether his penis was erect and requesting that he
take out and measure his penis. The cover-up involved Republican House
Majority Leader John Boehner, Ohio Eighth Congressional District and
Republican House Speaker Dennis Hastert, Illinois Fourteenth District.[33]
Jim Gibbons, then US Rep. and Republican candidate for governor, was accused
by a Las Vegas casino cocktail waitress of grabbing her, shoving her against
a wall and threatening her after she rebuffed his advances.[34][35] Since
elected Governor, Gibbons is under investigation by the FBI on corruption
charges and is embroiled in what looks set to become a very messy
divorce.[36]
Ted Haggard, was fired as pastor of the New Life Church and resigned from
his position as president of the National Association of Evangelicals in
November 2006 after a former male prostitute alleged they had a cash-for-sex
relationship. The man also said he saw Haggard use methamphetamine. Haggard
confessed to undisclosed "sexual immorality" and said he bought meth but
didn't use it.[37]
Don Haidl, Assistant Sheriff of Orange Country, in violation of California's
rape shield law, led a smear campaign against the child his son poisoned and
then violently gang-raped on videotape, adding up to 24 felony counts. He
said that his son "acted accordingly" because the child was a
"slut".[38][39]
Jeffrey Ray Nielsen, Christian conservative activist and lawyer with close
ties to Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher and Scott Baugh, head of the
Orange County Republican Party, was arrested for having sex with a 14-year
old boy.[40]
Jeffrey Patti, Republican Committee Chairman, was arrested for distributing
what experts call "some of the most offensive material in the child
pornography world" - a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.[41]
Brent Schepp, Republican County Board Candidate was charged with molesting a
14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.[42]
2005
Adelphia Communications Corp.: Donated large sums of money to some of the
most conservative members of Congress. They are also the first cable company
to offer hard-core adult movies to subscribers.[43]
John Collins, of Eatontown, NJ, former music teacher and city councilman,
pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.[44]
John Gosek Republican Mayor of Oswego, N.Y.was arrested after paying a
confidential informant $250 to introduce him to two 15-year-old girls at a
hotel.[45]
Dr. W. David Hager Bush appointee, member of Focus on the Family's Physician
Resource Council, player in movement to ban the morning-after-pill. Had an
adulterous affair, before divorcing his wife he sexually abused her,
including sodomizing her in her sleep.[46]
Russell Harding, president of the New York City Housing Development Corp.
under then-mayor Rudolph Giuliani, pleaded guilty to stealing more than
$400,000 for his personal use and possessing child pornography.[47]
Neal Horsley has called for the arrest of all homosexuals. During an
interview with Alan Colmes on the Fox News Radio's The Alan Colmes Show, he
admitted to having engaged in sex with a mule at age 11. "When you grow up
on a farm in Georgia, your first girlfriend is a mule," he said. He then
credited Jesus with forgiving and cleansing him of his "sin."
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acts and a nude woman engaging in bestiality amid shots of grotesquely
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Jeff Miller, (R-Cleveland), Senate Republican Caucus Chairman in Tennessee
and the sponsor of Tennessee's Marriage Protection act, getting divorced (as
of April 2005) because of an affair he was having with an office aid. Miller
described the Tennessee Marriage Protection Act as a means of preserving the
sanctity of marriage. He opposed an amendment, however, which stated that
"Adultery is deemed to be a threat to the institution of marriage and
contrary to public policy in Tennessee."
Dennis L. Rader, AKA, The BTK Killer, Republican zoning supervisor, Boy
Scout leader and Lutheran church president, pleaded guilty to performing a
sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.[48]
Jeffrey Kyle Randall, Republican Mayor of Clarkfield, Minnesota, was
sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys--ages ten and
12--during a six-year period.[49]
Jean Schmidt, OH-2, though not herself implicated, employed a campaign
manager (Joe Braun) in her 2005 election who once wrote an article
condemning gay men for running sex ad profiles, and who was then accused of
running his own sex profile on Collarme, an S&M sex site. The profile called
for "submissives" to wear only a collar and handcuffs and to have hot wax
dripped on them.[50]
Mark Seidensticker, Republican campaign worker, is a convicted child
molester.[51]
Don Sherwood, Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives.
Eventually admitted to an affair with a woman 30 years younger than him,
after she accused him of physical abuse and attempting to choke her. [52]
Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr., Republican City Councilman, pleaded no contest to
raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.[53]
Jim Stelling, Seminole County Republican Party chairman who believes in
"family values", as he told a judge. Filed a defamation lawsuit against
Nancy Goettman, a former county GOP executive committee member, for falsely
claiming he had been married six times. Stelling has been married 5 times.
[54]
Bobby Stumbo, former Floyd County, KY, Republican Party leader, was arrested
for having sex with a 5-year old boy.[55]
Jim West, Spokane Mayor. Supported a bill, which failed, would have barred
gays and lesbians from working in schools, day-care centers and some state
agencies. Voted to bar the state from distributing pamphlets telling people
how to protect themselves from AIDS. Proposed that "any touching of the
sexual or other intimate parts of a person" among teens be criminalized. Had
a sexual affair with an 18 year old boy.[56]
2004
Edison Misla Aldarondo, Republican former speaker of Puerto Rico's house of
representatives, was sentenced to 13 years in prison after pleading guilty
to charges of intoxicating his stepdaughter and her 17-year-old friend and
attempting to rape the friend.[57]
Paul Crouch Televangelist, Former President of Trinity Broadcasting Network
(TBN). Paid $425,000 in hush money in an attempt to cover up a gay
affair.[58]
Richard A. Dasen Sr., Republican benefactor of conservative Christian
groups, convicted of sexual abuse of children, promotion of prostitution and
several counts of solicitation, enough to add up to a sentence of 126 years
in prison. Investigators estimated that he spent at least $5
million.[59][60][61]
Peter Dibble, Republican legislator pleaded no contest to having an
inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl. [62]
Jeff Gannon, partisan blogger with no journalism credentials and a fake name
who got invited to Bush's Press conferences. Is also a pimp and a gay
prostitute.[63]
Mike Hintz, a First Assembly of God youth pastor, introduced by Bush on the
campaign trail, and promoted his policies. Says he supports Bush's values.
Two months later, this married father of four turned himself into police,
charged with the sexual exploitation of a child.[64][65]
Also signed an ad (that called for criminally prosecuting business that sell
porn), along with another pastor who was repeatedly busted for public
masturbation.
Mark Pazuhanich, Republican judge, pleaded no contest to fondling his
10-year old daughter and was sentenced to 10 years probation.[66]
Donald Rumsfeld, Republican Defense Secretary, may have authorized the rape
of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into
providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one
prisoner's report here and his full report here.[67]
Jack Ryan, 2004 Republican nominee for US Senate from Illinois, pressured
his wive, actress Jeri Ryan, to have sex with other men. Tricked her into
visiting sex clubs, where he asked her to have sex with him while others
watched.[68]
Ed Schrock, two-term republican congressman, with a 92% approval rating from
the Christian Coalition. Cosponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment,
consistently opposed gay rights. Married, with wife and kids. Withdrew his
candidacy for a third term after tapes of him soliciting for gay sex were
circulated.[69]
David Swartz, Republican Commissioner, of Richland County, Ohio pleaded
guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8
years in prison.[70]
Robin Vanderwall, Republican strategist and director of Faith & Family
Alliance, (a Christian Coalition spin off), was convicted in April 2004 on
five counts of computer solicitation of a minor and one count of attempted
indecent liberties with a child.[71]
2003
John Allen Burt, Republican anti-abortion activist, convicted of sexually
molesting a 15 year old girl at the home for troubled girls that he ran.
[72]
Neil Bush, brother or G. W. Bush, in a March 2003 divorce deposition,
admitted repeatedly having sex with strange women who just showed up at his
room while on an Asian business trip. (Overshadowing the sex scandal; the
business scandal--see link.) [73]
Richard A. Delgaudio, Republican fund-raiser and Bush pioneer, was found
guilty of child porn charges. [74]
Jack W. Gardner, Republican Councilman, had been convicted of molesting a
13-year old girl. when the Republican Party, knowing of these crimes, put
him on the ballot.[75]
Philip Giordano, Republican mayor sentenced to 37 years for forcing two 8
and 10 year old girls to perform oral sex on him in his City Hall
office.[76][77]
Rush Limbaugh, triple-divorcee[78], 30-pill a day drug addict.[79]. In 2006,
returning from a trip to the Dominican Republic, Limbaugh was detained by
customs agents for several hours after they found a bottle of Viagra
prescribed to someone else in his luggage.[80]
Pat McPherson, Douglas County Election Commissioner, resigned a day after
being ticketed on suspicion of fondling a 17-year-old girl who was dressed
as a restaurant mascot.[81]
Brent Parker Utah State Representative. Arrested for soliciting sex from an
undercover officer posing as a male prostitute.[82]
Stephen White, infamous for preaching against homosexuality and sexual
promiscuity at Yale and other college campuses, was arrested after allegedly
offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on
him.[83]
2002
Andrew Buhr, Republican politician, former committeeman for Hadley Township
Missouri, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year
old boy.[84]
Richard Gardner, a Nevada State Representative (R), admitted to molesting
his two daughters. 34% of those who voted in Assembly District 34 preferred
Gardner to the Democratic candidate.[85]
Howard Scott Heldreth, anti-abortion activist who gained fame during the
Shiavo media-circus, was convicted of two charges of raping a child in
2002.[86]
Tom Randall, Republican petition drive manager of Orange County, CA, pleaded
guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter
of an associate in the petition business.[87]
Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative (R), was arrested on
seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16
(i.e. exposing himself to children).[88] Not long afterwards, Westmoreland
committed suicide.[89]
2001
Randal David Ankeney, Republican activist, arrested on suspicion of sexual
assault on a child with force. He faces 6 charges related to getting a
13-year-old girl stoned on pot and then having sex with her. [90] Also
accused of sexually assaulting another girl. [91]
Parker J. Bena, Republican activist and Bush Elector, pleaded guilty to
possession of child pornography (including children as young as 3 years old)
on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and
fined $18,000. [92]
Kevin Coan, Republican St. Louis Election Board official, arrested and
charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the
Internet. [93]
John Fund, of the Wall Street Journal, a prominent anti-abortion columnist
and GOP fund raiser. He lost his position after it was revealed that he
impregnated the daughter of an old girlfriend and then encouraged her to
abort his child.[94]
Donald "Buzz" Lukens, Republican Congressman from Ohio, was found guilty of
having sex with a minor - a girl he was accused of sleeping with since she
was 13.[95] Lukens was convicted in March, 1996, on five counts of bribery
and conspiracy related to actions he took while in Congress.[96]
Nicholas Morency, Republican anti-abortion activist, pleaded guilty to
possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to
anybody who murders an abortion doctor [97].
Larry Jack Schwarz, Republican parole board officer and former Colorado
state representative, fired after child pornography was found in his
possession. [98] With his political career over, he went to work in the
hard-core pornography industry for Platinum X Pictures, owned by his
daughter, porn starlet Jewel De'Nyle (Stephany Schwarz). [99]
Tom Shortridge. Republican campaign consultant, was sentenced to three years
probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. [100]
2000
Keola Childs, Republican County Councilman, pleaded guilty to sexual assault
in the first degree for molesting a male child.[101]
Matthew Glavin, president and CEO of the Southeastern Legal Foundation, big
player in the Clinton Impeachment, and many anti-gay jihads, has been
arrested multiple times for public indecency, one time fondling the crotch
of the officer who was arresting him.[102]
Earl Kimmerling, sentenced to 40 years in prison after he confessed to
molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from
adopting her.[103]
1999
George Roche III president of conservative Hillsdale College, MI, divorced
his wife of 44 years (who had cancer) and remarried five months later.
Apparently shocked and upset by the presence of a new woman in her
father-in-law's life, Roche's daughter-in-law Lissa revealed that she and
her father-in-law had been off-and-on lovers for 19 of the 21 years she and
her husband had been married. Shortly thereafter, Lissa took her own
life.[104]
1998
Merrill Robert Barter, Republican County Commissioner, pleaded guilty to
unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. [105]
Dan Burton, Republican Congressman who, while married, fathered a child by
another woman. [106]
Dan Crane, Republican Congressman, married, father of six. Received a 100%
"Morality Rating" from Christian Voice. Had sex with a minor working as a
congressional page.[107] On July 20, the House voted for censure Crane, the
first time that censure had been imposed for sexual misconduct.[108]
Helen Chenoweth, Congresswoman (R-Id.). In 1995, Chenoweth had denied having
an affair when asked about it by The Spokane Spokesman-Review. In 1998 she
called (in a campaign ad) for Bill Clinton's resignation saying "I believe
that personal conduct and integrity do matter". Days later she admitted to a
six-year adulterous affair with a married associate. but now she claims a
pardon from a higher authority: "I've asked for God's forgiveness, and I've
received it," she revealed.
Henry Hyde, Judge who oversaw Clinton's impeachment proceedings, prominent
opponent of reproductive rights, who had an extramarital affair with a woman
who was married and had three children, during the course of which she and
her husband were divorced. [109]
1997
Mike Bowers Former State Attorney General, prosecuted the famous Bowers vs.
Hardwick case, based on Georgia anti-sodomy laws. Admitted to a 10-year
adulterous affair.[110]
1996
John Hathaway, Republican Senate candidate, was accused of having sex with
his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations
were reported in the media.[111]
I. Lewis Libby, former Assistant to the President and Chief of Staff to Vice
President Dick Cheney. In 1996 published a novel containing bizarre sexual
content, including bestiality and pedophillia.[112]
1995
Newt Gingrich, married three times. Gingrich campaign worker Anne Manning
admitted that she gave Newt oral sex while he was still married to his first
wife. Informed one wife he was filing for divorce while she was in the
hospital recovering from cancer treatments.[113]
Beverly Russell, county chairman of the Christian Coalition and county
coordinator of the South Carolina Citizens for Life[114], sexually molested
his step-daughter, Susan Smith, who later drowned her two children.[115].
Mr. Russell continued to serve on the executive committee of the state
G.O.P. as late as six months after his stepdaughter's confession of murder
had brought their sexual history to light.
1994
Jim Bunn Congressman of Oregon: With his success due in great part to
support from the Christian Coalition, Bunn won his congressional seat, then
immediately ditched his wife (and mother of his five children), married a
staffer, and put his new wife on the state payroll for the unheard-of salary
of $97,500. [116]
1993
Ken Calvert, Congressman (R-Ca), champion of the Christian Coalition and its
"family values." Sued as an alimony deadbeat by his ex-wife. Said "We can't
forgive what occurred between the President and Lewinsky." In 1993 he was
caught by police receiving oral sex from a prostitute and attempted to flee
the scene.[117]
1990
Jon Grunseth, Republican businessman and candidate for Minnesota governor,
withdrew his candidacy after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in
the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter, and tried to
grope one. "I've made some mistakes," he said.[118]
1989
Paul Ingram, Republican Party leader of Thurston County, Washington, pleaded
guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal
prison.
Sue Myrick, Republican mayor of Charlotte, NC, self-described "devout
Christian", during her run for reelection news reports revealed that she
committed adultery with a married man in 1973. Myrick admitted the adultery
and won reelection. She was later elected as congresswoman for North
Carolina's 9th district.
1988
Jim Bakker, televangelist with Pat Robertson at Robertson's Christian
Broadcasting network. Committed adultery with Jessica Hahn [119] and then
used charitable donations to pay her hush money[120]. Fellow televangelists
say he's gay. [121][122] Convicted on 24 federal charges of fraud and
conspiracy charges. [123].
1986
Roy Cohn, continually condemned gays and gay rights. Was a closet gay who
died of AIDS. [124]
1982
John Scmitz, right-wing republican congressman, who had had his committee
chairship taken away from him in the California State Senate after issuing a
press release attacking Jews, feminists and gays. Forced out of office in
1982 for having an adulterous affair and fathering two children out of
wedlock with one of his students. He was caught because his baby was
admitted to hospital for having hair tied so tightly around his penis that
it was almost severed. His daughter, Mary Kay LeTourneau, was convicted of
having an adulterous affair with one of her students, and giving birth to
two of his children. [125]
1980
Robert Bauman, Republican congressman and anti-gay activist, was charged
with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. [126]
1973
Ted Bundy, the notorious serial rapist who murdered 16 women. Bundy worked
on the re-election campaign of Washington's Republican Governor Dan Evans.
Evans was elected and he appointed Bundy to the Seattle Crime Prevention
Advisory Committee.[127]
1925
Strom Thurmond, Republican senator, aged 22, fathered a child on 16-year old
African American maid working for his family.[128]
Unattributed
Dick Armey (R-Texas), former professor, has been accused by The Dallas
Observer of sexually harassing female students.
Bob Barr, Republican Congressman from Georgia. Sponsored the anti-gay
Defense of Marriage Act, saying "The flames of hedonism, the flames of
narcissism, the flames of self-centered morality are licking at the very
foundation of our society, the family unit." Was married three times. Paid
for his second wife's abortion (she also suspected he was cheating on her).
Failed to pay child support to the children of his first two wives and while
married to his third and present wife was photographed licking whipped cream
off of strippers at his inaugural party.
John Bolton Bush's appointee ambassador to United Nations, corroborated
allegations that Mr. Bolton's first wife, Christina Bolton, was forced to
engage in group sex have not been refuted by the State Department.
Pat Buchanan presidential candidate, media talking-head. His campaign
refused to confirm or deny whether Pat has had chlamydia or any other
venereal diseases.
George W. Bush, Republican president, accused in a criminal complaint and
lawsuit of raping Margie Schoedinger, who was later suicided. Accused by
Tammy Phillips, a former stripper quoted in the National Enquirer in 2000
saying she had an affair with Bush that had ended in 1999. Also noted by
Mrs. Blount whom G.W.BUSH while campaigning for her Husband Red Blount and
while G.W.BUSH was possibly A.W.O.L from the Air National Guard at age 26 he
was all over their 14 year old daughter.
John Butler, Republican activist, was charged with criminal sexual assault
on a teenage girl.
Charles Canady, Congressman (R-Florida), Judiciary Committee member. Lied to
his constituents about his adulterous affair with Sharon Becker, which
caused her divorce.
Nicholas Elizondo, Young Republican Federation board member was convicted
for molested a 6-year old girl and was sentenced to six years in
prison.[129]
Thomas B. Evans, Jr. -R Congressman from Delaware may have had an affair
with Paula Parkinson (see his article for more info).
Rudy Giuliani, had an adulterous affair. Pocketed $80,000 for speaking at a
charity benefit for tsunami aid which raised only $60,000 for the victims
themselves (Feb 2005).
Marty Glickman, Republican activist, was taken into custody by Florida
police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a juvenile and one
count of delivering the drug LSD.
Mark A. Grethen, Republican activist, convicted on six counts of sex crimes
involving children.
Mark Harris, Republican city councilman who is described as a "church goer,"
was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and
sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Tim Hutchinson, divorced his wife of 29 years to marry a congressional aide
he was having an affair with.
Bernard Kerik, had two simultaneous adulterous affairs.
Bob Livingston, former Congressman (R-La.) resigned from the House in the
wake of revelations about his past adultery.
Bill O'Reilly Right-wing conservative talk show host on Fox News, sued for
sexual harassment by his producer.
Bob Packwood, Senator (R-Ore.), resigned in 1995 under a threat of public
senate hearings related to 10 female ex-staffers accusing him of sexual
harassment.
John Paulk, lied about prowling for gay sex while running a fundamentalist
group to cure gays.
John Peterson, Congressman (R-Pa), accused of sexual harassment and creation
of a hostile work environment by six women. Peterson has refused to admit a
crime, saying only "I may have been an excessive hugger."
Harvey Pitt, SEC Chief under George W. Bush until he was forced to resign in
2002. Worked for New Frontier Media, a firm which distributed teen sex
videos.
Joe Scarborough, former Republican Congressman, currently a conservative
talk show host. Resigned his congressional seat abruptly to spend more time
with his family, amidst allegations of an affair. His intern, Lori
Klausutis, was soon after found dead in his office. The medical examiner,
who had his license revoked in Missouri for falsifying information in an
autopsy report, and suspended in Florida for six years, ruled the case an
accident, after giving conflicting information about her injuries. He said
he lied about them because "The last thing we wanted was 40 questions about
a head injury."
Dr. Laura Schlessinger, right wing conservative radio host. Promotes family
values, estranged from her mother, opposes birth control, has had her tubes
tied, espouses saving oneself for marriage, admits to having had sex before
she was married, opposes adultery, has committed adultery while she was
married, and has slept with a married man, opposes divorce, is divorced and
remarried, has posed for nude photos which are available online.
Arnold Schwarzenegger, Republican governor, had sex with a 16 year old when
he was 28.
Jimmy Swaggart, televangelist, said during a sermon "I'm trying to find the
correct name for it . this utter absolute, asinine, idiotic stupidity of men
marrying men. . I've never seen a man in my life I wanted to marry. And I'm
gonna be blunt and plain; if one ever looks at me like that, I'm gonna kill
him and tell God he died." Had an affair with a prostitute.
Randall Terry, Right to Life activist, founder of Operation Rescue, involved
in the Terri Schiavo protests. Once imprisoned for sending former President
Bill Clinton an aborted fetus. His son Jamiel is gay; his daughter Tila had
sex outside of marriage, became pregnant, had a miscarriage - she is no
longer welcome in his home; his daughter Ebony had 2 children outside of
wedlock and became Muslim. He has campaigned against infidelity and birth
control, gays and unwed mothers. Terry himself was censured by his church
after committing adultery.
Bill Thomas Republican congressman, had an affair with Deborah Steelman, a
health care lobbyist who steered huge campaign gifts to Thomas' war chest.
J.C. Watts, Representative (R-Oklahoma), loud champion of "moral values."
Has out-of-wedlock children.
V-for-Vendicar
"bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica" <bushhelpsc...@yahoo.com>
wrote
> stevil is a jesus fucker and bush ass kissing appeaser
He is an Ass Licker, Like every other RepubliKKKan in existance.
The only good RepubliKKKan is a DEAD RepubliKKKan.
Remember that when the time comes.
V-for-Vendicar
> Violation of International law. Violation of his oath of office, Treason,
> Voilation of the U.S. constitution, and International war crimes.
"Steve Thomas" <misled...@aol.com> wrote
> The evidence? The evidence? The evidence? The evidence? The
> evidence? Cite please?
Torture, War of Agression, A nonstop campaign of lies, Violation of the
U.S. constitution, Illegal surveilance of AmeriKKKans, Katrina Fiasco,
Selling AmeriKKKan interests to the Israelis, Covering up Saudi Arabian
Complicity in 911, Allowing 911, Lying about 911, Ordering the EPA to claim
that there was no environmental hazzard after 911, Censoring Science,
Exposing the Valarie Plame as a CIA operative, Lying about investigating the
matter, lying to the AmeriKKKan public about firing those responsible, etc.
etc. etc.
Published on Friday, August 1, 2003 by the Seattle Times
Bush's High Crimes Against the Nation
by Walter Williams
George W. Bush has knowingly deceived the American people on the two
overriding policy issues of his presidency - the invasion of Iraq and the
deep tax cuts.
Other presidents have lied. Only Bush has repeatedly duped Congress
and the public to thwart their exercise of informed consent.
He is the first president to use propaganda as the main weapon in
selling his policies. Bush's unprecedented pattern of deception may
constitute an impeachable offense.
To date, only the deception in Iraq has brought forth the "I" word.
The case for impeachment is materially strengthened, however, when Iraq is
combined with Bush's 2001 and 2003 propaganda campaigns to convince the
public that tax filers with lower levels of income benefited more from his
tax cuts than the nation's richest families.
Hoodwinking the public that Saddam posed a perilous immediate danger
to the United States is Bush's greatest treachery. New York Times columnist
Paul Krugman observed: "If that claim was fraudulent, the selling of the war
is arguably the worst scandal in American history."
John Dean, counsel to the president during Watergate, wrote in
mid-June: "Manipulation or deliberate misuse of national security
intelligence data, if proven, could be a 'high crime' under the
Constitution's impeachment clause."
Before the U.S. invasion, the strong consensus based on intelligence
community information held that there were only negligible Iraqi ties with
al-Qaida, no nuclear weapons program of any consequence, and limited
chemical and biological weapons programs at most.
Lacking hard facts, as evidenced by his now much-discussed deception
in his State of the Union address that Iraq sought to buy uranium in Africa,
Bush mixed misinformation, distorted allegations and unsubstantiated rumors
to persuade the public of the imminent danger posed by Saddam Hussein.
The experience with the massive tax cuts for families and individuals
in both 2001 and 2003 makes patently clear how Bush used the same
unscrupulous tactics over time. Moreover, the level of the deception is
staggering, as indicated by Bush's 2003 proposal to eliminate taxes on
taxable corporate dividends.
Joel Friedman and Robert Greenstein of the Center on Budget and Policy
Priorities pointed out: "The group with incomes over $1 million - which
consists of about 226,000 tax filers in 2003 - would receive roughly as much
in benefits as the 127 million tax filers with income below $140,000. Stated
another way, the top 0.2 percent of tax filers would receive nearly as much
from the tax cut as the bottom 95 percent of filers combined."
Claiming that the 127 million tax filers with incomes of under
$140,000 are the big winners when 226,000 of the richest tax filers benefit
nearly as much is surely world-class policy deception.
But is it a high crime that warrants impeachment, as was the case with
Watergate?
Republican operatives breaking into the Democratic Party's national
committee headquarters and President Nixon's covering it up clearly
constituted crimes. Bush's propaganda campaign to hide how much the tax cuts
benefited the rich is more likely to be viewed by the public as the stuff of
politics in which politicians make inflated claims about the importance of a
proposed policy and its likely benefits and ignore potential problems.
In actuality, the president's purposeful duping of the public on the
nation's most critical policy issues strikes at the heart of American
constitutional democracy when it robs the electorate of informed consent.
This fraudulent act makes a mockery of Abraham Lincoln's immortal words in
the Gettysburg Address, "that government of the people, by the people, for
the people, shall not perish from the Earth."
Deeming presidential deception a high crime under the impeachment
clause can open a Pandora's box of problems. Yet, President Bush's actions
appear to be a far more serious assault on the Constitution than Watergate.
I hold that interpreting Bush's pattern of deception on his most important
policy proposals as a high crime against the nation is a necessary step in
rescuing American democracy.
Walter Williams is a professor emeritus at the Evans School of Public
Affairs, University of Washington, and author of the forthcoming book,
"Reaganism and the Death of Representative Democracy."
V-for-Vendicar
"Steve Thomas" <misled...@aol.com> wrote
> I would say the one with ignorance is the one who cant cite specific
> evidence to his charges.
Published on Friday, August 1, 2003 by the Seattle Times
Steve Thomas
<Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
> "bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica" <bushhelpscorporati...@yahoo.com>
> wrote
>
> > stevil is a jesus fucker and bush ass kissing appeaser
>
> He is an Ass Licker, Like every other RepubliKKKan in existance.
>
> The only good RepubliKKKan is a DEAD RepubliKKKan.
>
> Remember that when the time comes.
I take it your not going to post any evidence of treason? Perhaps
because your a
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Steve Thomas
<Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
> > Violation of International law. Violation of his oath of office, Treason,
> > Voilation of the U.S. constitution, and International war crimes.
>
>
> > The evidence? The evidence? The evidence? The evidence? The
> > evidence? Cite please?
>
> Torture,
1. Lies, who where and when?
>War of Agression,
2. More lies, enforcing UN resolutions and attacking a state
supporter of terrorisim , Saddam provided a sum of 25 thousand dollars
per suicide bomber.
> A nonstop campaign of lies,
3. Proof of these lies? Still waiting for evidence on this one.
Untill then just more bullshit DhimmiKKK-rat lies.
>Violation of the
> U.S. constitution,
4. Evidence please? I suspect more crackpot lies.
>Illegal surveilance of AmeriKKKans
5. Evidence of this is? Cite? You do realize Presidents in the
past have done similar things in a time of war?
Dosent matter anyway because you cant be specific so its lies.
>, Katrina Fiasco,
6. Incompetence is not a crime and if it were there would be a
whole lot of DhimmiKKK-rats being charged with treason regarding
Katrina.
> Selling AmeriKKKan interests to the Israelis,
7. We better charge every administration going back the the birth
of Israel if support for the Jewish state is a crime. Unless you can
show he profeted in some way its a pack of lies.
>Covering up Saudi Arabian
> Complicity in 911,
8. Utter and complete bullshit, unless you cant cite something
specific.
> Allowing 911,
9. Tinfoil hat time folks! Im sure you have the evidence to back
this one up, i cant wait to see it.
>Lying about 911,
10. Too bad there was the 911 commission and i dont remember
reading that in there.
>Ordering the EPA to claim
> that there was no environmental hazzard after 911,
11. You can of course document this Presidential Order? Otherwise
this allegation goes right up there with a fake moon landing.
>Censoring Science,
12. I think you'll have a hard time finding a law that states
"censoring science" is a crime, but if you can cite one id love to
hear it. If nothing is provided we'll have to chalk it up as your lack
of prosecutorial experience.
> Exposing the Valarie Plame as a CIA operative,
13. Your knee deep in bullshit on this one too. Richard Armitage
leaked Plame, he admitted to it. Fitzgerald looked into it. Everyone
can see your a liar and
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>Lying about investigating the
> matter,
14. My bullshit meter is going off again, you cant prove he leaked
Plame's identity (we already know who did) so you call him a liar.
>lying to the AmeriKKKan public about firing those responsible,
15. Armitage quit anyway. We can let you slide because your a
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etc.
> etc. etc.
>
> Published on Friday, August 1, 2003 by the Seattle Times
> Bush's High Crimes Against the Nation
> by Walter Williams
Your going to have to do better than a Walter Williams article
for evidence, you'll get laughed out of court.
Steve Thomas
<Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote
>
> > I would say the one with ignorance is the one who cant cite specific
> > evidence to his charges.
>
Gonna have to do better than an opinion piece dude, youll get
laughed out of court.
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