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Terrorized by Bush  
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 More options Dec 13 2007, 9:15 am
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From: "Terrorized by Bush" <drippingbl...@whitehouse.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:15:11 GMT
Local: Thurs, Dec 13 2007 9:15 am
Subject: Wolfowitz Against US Intelligence
"The CIA is enemy territory" Paul Wolfowitz Against US Intelligence

The quote in the title comes from a very informative document that you can
read here:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=pa...

There is a good reason why Paul Wolfowitz has no use for the CIA or the US
Intelligence Community. It has to do with the word they share in common.
Intelligence , as in something that is gathered from a study of the facts.
Something that has some basis in reality. Facts just get in the way of
people like Wolfowitz, who make up their minds what they want to do, and
then make up excuses why they have to do it.

The document above is a handy resource with links to many sources about
things said and done by and about Paul Wolfowitz. I decided to put on my hip
boots and wade into Wolfowitz's career in political propaganda, because
something about the recent Iran NIE bashing maneuver coordinated by the New
York Times and Washington Post reminds me of the run up to the war with
Iraq.

Even before 9/11, Wolfowitz is ready to invade Iraq. While Tenet and others
worry about Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban, Wolfowitz wants to get on with
the Project for the New American Century ---you know, liberating oil that
was under the control of brown people. When the CIA and FBI fails to get on
board his theories that Saddam blew up the WTC in 1993 "he said something
derisive about how I shouldn't believe the CIA and FBI, that they've been
wrong."

After 9/11, Dept. Defense Sect. Wolfowitz is commissioned by Rumfeld to set
up the Counter Terrorism Evaluation Group, which picks and chooses which
intelligence it likes.

Critics claim that its members manipulate and distort intelligence,
"cherry-picking" bits of information that support their preconceived
conclusions. "There is a complete breakdown in the relationship between the
Defense Department and the intelligence community, to include its own
Defense Intelligence Agency," a defense official will tell the New York
Times. "Wolfowitz and company disbelieve any analysis that doesn't support
their own preconceived conclusions. The CIA is enemy territory, as far are
they're concerned."

This group leaked material from the US intelligence community, a pattern
which will become familiar.

According to unnamed Pentagon and US intelligence officials, the group is
also accused of providing sensitive CIA and Pentagon intercepts to the
US-funded Iraqi National Congress, which then pass them on to the government
of Iran.

In 2002, after the CIA launches a covert attack in Yemen, Wolfowitz blows
the cover of the operation on national television, jeopardizing the agencies
ability to conduct similar operations in the future.

Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz confirms that the assassination of
Qaed Senyan al-Harethi in Yemen two days earlier. was done with a US
Predator drone that struck the truck carrying al-Harethi and five others.
Initial reported suggested that the truck was destroyed by a car bomb, but
this cover story is blown when Wolfowitz brags about the success of the
operation on CNN, revealing US involvement. Newsweek reports that "The CIA,
which ran the operation, was furious with the Defense Department for blowing
its cover story." US procedures required that the Yemeni government had to
give approval of the strike in advance, and the revelation of such approval
is highly embarrassing to the Yemeni government.. The CIA view is, you dumb
bastards, this means no other country will cooperate with us!"

The next big leak, will be Scooter Libby, Karl Rove and Richard Armitage's
outing of CIA operative Valeria Plame, six months later, in retaliation for
her husband, Joe Wilson's op-ed piece in the New York Times debunking claims
that Iraq tried to purchase uranium. No evidence that Wolfowitz was
involved, but Dick Cheney sure seems to have been.

The pattern here is clear. The NeoCons could care less about the operations
of the US intelligence community. They want the CIA and its partners to
produce the evidence which they need to support the operations which they
plan to launch. Leaks of classified intelligence information can and will be
made whenever Wolfowitz or the administration feels like it---and there is
nothing the US intelligence community can do about it.

During 2002, Wolfowitz grows increasingly angry at the CIA and other
intelligence agencies, as they fail (or refuse) to produce the evidence he
wants to back up the claims he is making to the press that an Iraqi diplomat
met a 9/11 hijacker in the Czech Republic.

September 23, 2002: Newsweek reports that the CIA is resisting Pentagon
demands to obtain pictures of the alleged meeting from Iraqi exiles. One
official says, "We do not shy away from evidence. But we also don't make it
up."'

Wolfowitz is also reported to have become enraged when the CIA failed to
find any useful material when he told them to dig up dirt that would
discredit Han Blix, chairman of the UN Weapons Inspection Team. By 2003, as
US intelligence is failing to provide the story that he wants to hear,
Wolfowitz and his NeoCon buddies, begin turning directly to Israeli
intelligence.

After several CIA reports downplay intelligence provided to Washington by
Israeli intelligence officials, Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz
and other neoconservatives working in the Pentagon begin meeting personally
with Israeli officials to hear their intelligence. The CIA's reports had
found that conclusions made by Israeli intelligence were often skewed by its
biases against the Arab world.

Note that the US intelligence community was correct when it said that Saddam
had nothing to do with 9/11, that an invasion of Iraq could lead to a
prolonged conflict and a civil war and the several hundred thousand US
troops could be involved. (If you add up the private contractors, there are
several hundred thousand over there now.). In contrast, Wolfowitz toured the
TV talk shows, declaring that we would be in and out, the war would pay for
itself with Iraqi oil, there would be no ethnic violence and the Iraqis
would greet us as liberators.

Paul Wolfowitz believes himself to be a genius. In fact, he is a Goebbels
style propaganda master.

Paul Wolfowitz is back at the White House, perhaps because time is running
out on their plans to force the US into another war for oil, this time in
Iran.

Signs that Wolfowitz is working behind the scenes will include efforts to
undermine the ability of the US Intelligence Community to gather factual
information about Iran and present it to the public. Intimations that
Israel's intelligence agency is better than that of the US and accusations
that US intelligence agencies are too political are also part of the
Wolfowitz package. Most of all, since he is attempting to discredit the
validity of their intelligence, he will attempt to cast them as liars and
cheats. It is likely that the CIA decided to reveal its "Family Jewels" last
summer in order to prevent the White House from holding the document over
its head as blackmail to keep it from releasing the Iran NIE. Since "the CIA
is enemy territory", no tactics will be too extreme.

Consider the possibility that the more you distrust the CIA, the better job
Paul Wolfowitz and his NeoCon partners are doing.
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Makes one wonder how the neocons brains are wired Not being of the same
mind-set, it's difficult for me to try and understand how they think
anything they do is on the correct path for the good of the nation.

      Kristol, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Fox Noise, et al, we call them and their
ilk "batshit crazy", which they clearly are, but one would think that this
yellow belly draft-dodging coward crowd would be the quiet, lurk in the
shadows type. Not this in-your-face "I'm a Super Patriot" type of dipstick.

      These clowns clearly have a mental health issue going on.

      For neocons, America is enemy territory.


 
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NOMOREWARFORISRAEL  
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From: NOMOREWARFORISRAEL <NOMOREWAR_FORISR...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:04:57 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Dec 13 2007 2:04 pm
Subject: Re: Wolfowitz Against US Intelligence
Click on the pic of Gingrich at the following URL to see who fifth
columnist (Israel first) Wolfowitz has in his corner:

http://neoconzionistthreat.blogspot.com

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Obama caves to pressure from Israel firsters over Mearsheimer/Walt
book

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December 3, 2007 Issue
Copyright (c) 2007 The American Conservative

The Lobby Strikes Back

A new book riles the AIPAC crowd, but makes it to the bestseller list
anyway.

http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2007_12_03/cover.html

by Scott McConnell

One prism through which to gauge the impact of John Mearsheimer and
Stephen Walt's The Israel Lobby and American Foreign Policy is a
September incident involving Barack Obama. His campaign had placed
small ads in various spots around the Internet, designed to drive
readers to its website. One turned up on Amazon's page for the Walt
and Mearsheimer book. A vigilant watchdog at the New York Sun spotted
it and contacted the campaign: Did Obama support Walt and
Mearsheimer?

The answer came within hours. The ad was withdrawn. Its placement was
"unintentional." The senator, his campaign made clear, understood that
key arguments of the book were "wrong," but had definitely not read
the work himself. In short, Walt and Mearsheimer had reached a
pinnacle of notoriety.

Though The Israel Lobby was on the way to best-sellerdom and has
become perhaps the most discussed policy book of the year, the
presidential candidate touted as the most fresh-thinking and
intellectually curious in the race hastened to make clear he had not
been corrupted by the toxic text.

The episode illustrates one of the book's central arguments: the
Israel lobby is powerful, and American politicians fear its wrath. Any
Democrat running for president--drawing on a donor stream that is
heavily Jewish, very interested in Israel, and perceived as hawkish--
would have reacted as Obama did.

In their book's introduction, Walt and Mearsheimer summarize the
consequences of this power. In an election year, American politicians
will differ radically on domestic issues, social issues, immigration,
China, Darfur, and virtually any other topic. But all will "go to
considerable lengths to express their deep personal commitment to one
foreign country--Israel--as well as their determination to maintain
unyielding support for the Jewish state." The authors find this
remarkable and deserving of analysis, which they provided first in a
paper, posted last year on Harvard's Kennedy School website and
published in the London Review of Books, and now expanded into a
book.

This is not the first time a prominent American has taken on the
subject. George Ball, undersecretary of state in the Johnson and
Kennedy administrations and the government official most prescient
about Vietnam, a bona fide member of the Wall Street and Washington
establishments, called for the recalibration of America's Israel
policy in a much noted Foreign Affairs essay in 1977, and at the end
of his life co-authored a book on the subject with his son. Eleven-
term congressman Paul Findley, defeated after a former AIPAC president
called him "a dangerous enemy of Israel," wrote a book that became a
bestseller, and there are others.

But no one with the combined skills and eminence of Walt and
Mearsheimer has before addressed the subject systematically. These two
are mandarins of American academia, having reached the top of a field
that attracts smart people. They have tenure, job security, and
professional autonomy most journalists lack. They have the
institutional prestige of Harvard and the University of Chicago behind
them. Most importantly, they bring first-rate skills of research,
synthesis, and argument to their task.

One might wish that their book had been different in some ways--more
literary, more discursive, more precise in some of its definitions,
deeper in some areas, more (my favorite, from blogger Tony Karon)
"dialectical." But The Israel Lobby is an extraordinary
accomplishment, completed with great speed--a dense, factually based
brief of an argument that is often made but rarely made well.

In public appearances discussing their book, Walt and Mearsheimer are
tremendously effective: measured, facts at their fingertips, speaking
with the fluency of men accustomed to addressing demanding audiences.
Most of all, while treating a subject where hyperbole is common, they
are moderate. They are respectful of Israel, admiring of its
accomplishments, and extremely aware that criticism of Israel or the
Israel lobby can turn ugly and demagogic. As might be expected of top
scholars in America, they are fully conscious of what Jews have
suffered in the past and how much anti-Semitism has been a moral blot
on the West as a whole. So while they have none of the excessive
deference, guilt feelings, and reluctance to engage so typical of the
remaining WASP elite, they are very well-modulated. Their detractors
would have preferred loose-tongued adversaries, Palestinians whose
words are raw with loss and resentment, a left wing anti-Zionist like
Noam Chomsky, or genuine anti-Semites. Instead, with Walt and
Mearsheimer, they are encountering something like the American
establishment of a vanished era at its calm, patriotic best.

It is obvious that The Israel Lobby, both the article and the book,
would be extremely unwelcome to those pleased with the status quo.
Under the current arrangement, the United States gives Israel $3-4
billion in aid and grants a year--about $500 per Israeli and several
orders of magnitude more than aid to citizens of any other country.
Israel is the only American aid recipient not required to account for
how the money is spent. Washington uses its Security Council veto to
shield Israel from critical UN resolutions and periodically issues
bland statements lamenting the continued expansion of Israeli
settlements on the Palestinian land the Jewish state has occupied
since 1967. When Israel violates U.S. law, as it did in Lebanon by
using American-made cluster bombs against civilian targets, a low-
level official may issue a mild complaint. These fundamentals of the
relationship go unchallenged by 95 percent of American politicians
holding or running for national office.

Walt and Mearsheimer's goal was to ignite a conversation about the
lobby--which they define expansively as an amorphous array of
individuals, think tanks, and congressional lobbying groups that
advocate Israeli perspectives--and its consequences, which they believe
are damaging to America's core strategic interests in the Middle East.
They support Israel's existence as a Jewish state, and while they
readily summarize Israeli blemishes, drawing on Israeli sources and
the arguments of the country's revisionist "new historians," they are
fully aware that no modern state has been built without injustices.
They seek a more normal United States relationship with Israel, rather
like we have with France or Spain, and an Israeli-Palestinian peace
settlement that can start to drain the poison out of American
relations with the Arab world.

At least in a preliminary sense, they have started a discussion. The
initial working paper on the Kennedy School website was downloaded
275,000 times, throwing Israel's most ferocious partisans into a
panic. Deploying a McCarthyite tactic, the New York Sun quickly sought
to link the authors to white supremacist David Duke. The New Republic
published a basketful of hostile pieces. Several pro-Israel
congressmen initiated an embarrassing effort--ignored by the
institution's president--to get the Naval War College to cancel
scheduled lectures by the two. In a column about "the Mearsheimer-Walt
fiasco," neoconservative writer Daniel Pipes summed up his dilemma: it
would have been better, Pipes said, to have ignored the essay by "two
obscure academics" so that it disappeared "down the memory hole"
instead of becoming "the monument that it now is." Pipes was wrong
about this. Hostile reaction to the piece hadn't inspired a quarter of
a million downloads. With the United States mired in a quagmire in
Iraq, increasingly detested in the Muslim world, and wedded to an
Israel policy that, beyond America's borders, seems bizarre to friend
and foe alike, Walt and Mearsheimer had touched a topic that was
crying out for serious analysis.

And the book could do more than the article. Arguments could be filled
out, footnotes could be easily read. The 2006 Lebanon War--which saw
the American Congress endorse the Israeli bombardment by the kind of
margin that would satisfy Nicolae Ceausescu, while seeming genuinely
puzzled that moderate Arab leaders did not join their applause --was
analyzed as a test case. A book could continue the discussion and
deepen it. But the book's enemies (how odd that a book could have
enemies, but there is no better word for it) had time to prepare their
ideological trenches, and within a month or two of publication, one
could see the shape of the defense.

By the end of October, two months after The Israel Lobby appeared in
stores, there had not been a single positive review in the mass-market
media. For a long time it seemed that no editor dared trust the
subject to a gentile, causing blogger Philip Weiss to ask cheekily,
"Do the goyim get to register an Opinion Re Walt/Mearsheimer?" By
then, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, the New York Sun, and
The New Republic between them must have printed 25 attacks on Walt and
Mearsheimer, virtually all of them designed to portray the authors as
beyond the pale of rational discourse.

Anti-Semitism was not a credible charge. The authors make clear that
the lobby isn't representative of the views of all or even most
American Jews, and they support an Israel within recognized
boundaries. Their recommendation ...

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From: jpsmith...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:15:18 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Dec 14 2007 10:15 am
Subject: Re: Wolfowitz Against US Intelligence
On Dec 13, 9:15 am, "Terrorized by Bush"

<drippingbl...@whitehouse.net> wrote:
> "The CIA is enemy territory" Paul Wolfowitz Against US Intelligence

What the hell does any of this madness have to do with "oil". What are
they going to do, drink Iranian oil from a plane with a straw?

It wasn't oil company executives partying in Liberty Park with the
burning WTC complex in the background, it was Jew supremacists.

Wolfowitz is a typical Jew supremacist, i.e., a delusional,
bloodthirsty pervert, not an "oil man".

This is about imposing Jewish supremacist designs on the Mideast;
i.e., creating an Israeli expansionist-hegemonist friendly verion of
the Mideast, where Israel never has to sit down and negotiate in good
faith for a just peace with its neighbors.

This is purely about Jew supremacists sacrificing the American beast
they control on the altar of Zionism.


 
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