Questions about the war
Cavello
Saddam due to go on trial in the morning, would you, given the
opportunity, wind the clock back to March 18th, 2003? Either answer
yes or no, or else just don't answer at all.
Peter Mounsey
Christian Williamson
Yes.
Bill Gamelson
"Cavello" <cav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6326d055.04063...@posting.google.com...
Sid9
Scott in Florida
Yes
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--Scott in Florida
abelincoln
counters in florida. then we wouldn't have to worry about bush's lies
about iraq.
John H
SpikeSpiegel
hell no
Bush should send his girls to Iraq if its so important.
Blue Sea
Yes
Saddam is innocent of all charges. Bush is guilty of all charges.
Cavello
You're in favour of conscription?
Sid9
For the defense of our country, yes.....not for Bush,Jr's adventures.
The True AntiLiberal
> i'd wind it back to nov 2000 and make sure we had some honest vote
> counters in florida.
Machines counted the votes in Florida.
> then we wouldn't have to worry about bush's lies
> about iraq.
You mean the Clinton-Gore lie about needing to bomb the al qaeda
pharmaceutical plant in the Sudan because iraq was helping them make
WMD?
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9808/24/bomb.damage/
August 24, 1998
Sudanese authorities insist that the plant manufactured only
pharmaceuticals.
The United States also claims it had other evidence linking the plant
with chemical weapons production. That evidence includes links between
officials at the facility in Sudan and an Iraqi official who has been
labeled by U.S. intelligence as "the father of Iraq's chemical weapons
program."
Cavello
> abelincoln <bush...@whitehouse.com> wrote in message news:<40e346b8$0$23312$61fe...@news.rcn.com>...
> > i'd wind it back to nov 2000 and make sure we had some honest vote
> > counters in florida.
>
> Machines counted the votes in Florida.
>
> > then we wouldn't have to worry about bush's lies
> > about iraq.
>
> You mean the Clinton-Gore lie about needing to bomb the al qaeda
> pharmaceutical plant in the Sudan because iraq was helping them make
> WMD?
No, he means Bush's lies and Bush's lies alone. No-one else's lies.
And don't tell him anything about the fact that the European
intelligence community is now admitted that the whole
uranium-from-Africa story was probably right after all. And don't tell
him about the sarin-filled artillery shells found in Iraq. If Bush
doesn't tell a lie, he's not interested.
SpikeSpiegel
here here
Cavello
That was a swift change of policy. You don't agree with conscription
for Bush's "adventures", but a few posts ago you suggested that he
should "send his girls to Iraq if it's so important". Which is it?
cliff...@yahoo.co.uk
Yes.
Most Americans disapprove of the war in Iraq. Actually, most of the
people on the planet--at least the ones with a TV--probably disapprove
of the war in Iraq. Here's a small sampling, based on a quick search
of Google, of people and religious organizations that disapprove of
the war in Iraq:
MISCELLANEOUS, U.S.
William F. Buckley Jr -- "The Father of Modern Conservatism"
Bishop Desmond Tutu -- Winner of Nobel Peace Prize
Walter Cronkite -- "Most trusted man in America", former TV anchorman
Ron Reagan -- Son of the late president.
Richard Clarke -- Counter Terrorism Adviser to the past three
presidents
Wesley Clark, Retired US General
Joseph Wilson, Former Ambassador
UNITED KINGDOM
Sir Brian Barder , UK former high commissioner, Australia*
Paul Bergne, UK former diplomat; formerly Prime Minister's Special
Representative, Afghanistan and ambassador to Uzbekistan
Sir John Birch, UK former ambassador, Hungary and ambassador, deputy
Permanent Representative, UN
Sir David Blatherwick, UK former ambassador, Ireland
Graham Hugh Boyce, UK former ambassador, Egypt
Sir Julian Bullard, UK former ambassador, Federal Republic of Germany
Juliet Campbell, UK former ambassador, Luxembourg
Sir Bryan Cartledge, UK former ambassador, USSR
Sir Terence Clark, UK former ambassador, Iraq
David Hugh Colvin, UK former ambassador, Belgium
Francis Cornish, UK former ambassador, Israel and high commissioner,
Brunei
Sir James Craig, UK former ambassador, Saudi Arabia
Sir Brian Crowe, UK former director general, external and defence
affairs, Council of the European Union
Basil Eastwood, UK former ambassador, Syria
Sir Stephen Egerton, UK former ambassador, Saudi Arabia
William Fullerton, UK former ambassador, Morocco
Dick Fyjis-Walker, UK former ambassador, Sudan and Pakistan
Sir Marrack Goulding, UK former head of UN peacekeeping
Sir John Graham, UK former ambassador to Iran and Nato
Sir Andrew Green, UK former ambassador, Syria and Saudi Arabia
Victor Henderson, UK former ambassador, Yemen
Peter Hinchcliffe, UK former ambassador, Jordan
Brian Hitch, UK former high commissioner, Malta
Sir Archie Lamb, UK former ambassador, Norway
Sir David Logan, UK former ambassador, Turkey
Christopher Long , UK former ambassador, Switzerland
The Hon Ivor Lucas, UK former ambassador to Oman and Syria
Ian McCluney, UK former ambassador, Somalia
Maureen MacGlashan, UK foreign service in Israel
Philip McLean, UK former ambassador, Cuba
Sir Christopher MacRae, UK former ambassador, Chad
Oliver Miles, UK diplomatic service in Middle East
Martin Morland, UK former ambassador, Burma
Sir Keith Morris, UK former ambassador, Colombia
Sir Richard Muir, UK former ambassador, Kuwait
Sir Alan Munro, UK former ambassador, Saudi Arabia
Stephen Nash, UK former ambassador, Latvia
Robin O'Neill, UK former ambassador, Austria
Andrew Palmer, UK former ambassador, Cuba and Holy See
Bill Quantrill, UK former ambassador, Cameroon
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Sir Tom Richardson, UK former ambassador to Italy and ambassador,
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Andrew Stuart, UK former ambassador, Finland
David Tatham, UK former governor, Falkland Islands and ambassador to
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Derek Tonkin, UK former ambassador, Thailand
Charles Treadwell, UK former ambassador, UAE and Oman
Hugh Tunnell, UK former ambassador, Bahrain
Jeremy Varcoe, UK former ambassador, Somalia
Sir Harold "Hooky" Walker, UK former ambassador, Iraq
Sir Michael Weir, UK former ambassador, Egypt
Alan White, UK former ambassador, Chile
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Saint James, 1993; Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, 1985; Commander in
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The Honorable William A. DePree; Ambassador to Bangladesh, 1987;
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Secretary of State for African Affairs, 1974; Ambassador to Upper
Volta, 1971; Virginia
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International Security Affairs, 1993; Ambassador to the Kingdom of
Saudi Arabia, 1989; Rhode Island
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and Foreign Service, 1983; Ambassador to Kenya and Seychelles, 1980;
Ambassador to Guinea, 1975; New Jersey
The Honorable Arthur A. Hartman; Ambassador to the Soviet Union, 1981;
Ambassador to France, 1977; Assistant Secretary of State for European
Affairs, 1973; New Jersey
General Joseph P. Hoar, USMC, Ret.; Commander in Chief, United States
Central Command, 1991; Deputy Chief of Staff, Marine Corps, 1990;
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Massachusetts
The Honorable H. Allen Holmes; Assistant Secretary of Defense for
Special Operations, 1993; Ambassador at Large for Burdensharing, 1989;
Assistant Secretary of State for Politico- Military Affairs, 1986;
Ambassador to Portugal, 1982; Kansas
The Honorable Robert V. Keeley; Ambassador to Greece, 1985; Ambassador
to Zimbabwe, 1980; Ambassador to Mauritius, 1976; Florida
The Honorable Samuel W. Lewis; Director of State Department Policy and
Planning, 1993; Ambassador to Israel, 1977; Assistant Secretary of
State for International Organization Affairs, 1975; Texas
The Honorable Princeton N. Lyman; Assistant Secretary of State for
International Organization Affairs, 1997; Ambassador to South Africa,
1992; Director, Bureau of Refugee Programs, 1989; Ambassador to
Nigeria, 1986; Maryland
The Honorable Jack F. Matlock, Jr.; Ambassador to the Soviet Union,
1987; Director for European and Soviet Affairs, National Security
Council, 1983; Ambassador to Czechoslovakia, 1981; Florida
The Honorable Donald F. McHenry; Ambassador and U.S. Permanent
Representative to the United Nations, 1979; Illinois
General Merrill A. (Tony) McPeak, USAF, Ret.; Chief of Staff, United
States Air Force, 1990; Commander in Chief, Pacific Air Forces, 1988;
Commander, 12th Air Force and U.S. Southern Command Air Forces, 1987;
Oregon
The Honorable George E. Moose; Representative, United Nations European
Office, 1997; Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs, 1993;
Ambassador to Senegal, 1988; Director, State Department Bureau of
Management Operations, 1987; Ambassador to Benin, 1983; Colorado
The Honorable David D. Newsom; Secretary of State ad interim, 1981;
Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, 1978; Ambassador to
the Philippines, 1977; Ambassador to Indonesia, 1973; Assistant
Secretary of State for African Affairs, 1969; Ambassador to Libya,
1965; California
The Honorable Phyllis E. Oakley; Assistant Secretary of State for
Intelligence and Research, 1997; Assistant Secretary of State for
Population, Refugees, and Migration, 1994; Nebraska
The Honorable Robert Oakley; Special Envoy for Somalia, 1992;
Ambassador to Pakistan, 1988; Ambassador to Somalia, 1982; Ambassador
to Zaire, 1979; Louisiana
The Honorable James D. Phillips; Diplomat-in-Residence, the Carter
Center of Emory University, 1994; Ambassador to the Republic of Congo,
1990; Ambassador to Burundi, 1986; Kansas
The Honorable John E. Reinhardt; Director of the United States
Information Agency, 1977; Assistant Secretary of State for Public
Affairs, 1975; Ambassador to Nigeria, 1971; Maryland
General William Y. Smith, USAF, Ret.; Chief of Staff for Supreme
Headquarters Allied Powers Europe, 1979; Assistant to the Chairman,
Organization of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, 1975; Director of National
Security Affairs, Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for
International Security Affairs, 1974; Arkansas
The Honorable Ronald I. Spiers; Under Secretary General of the United
Nations for Political Affairs, 1989; Under Secretary of State for
Management, 1983; Ambassador to Pakistan, 1981; Director, State
Department Bureau of Intelligence and Research, 1980; Ambassador to
Turkey, 1977; Ambassador to The Bahamas, 1973; Director, State
Department Bureau of Politico-Military Affairs, 1969; Vermont
The Honorable Michael E. Sterner; Ambassador to the United Arab
Emirates, 1974; New York
Admiral Stansfield Turner, USN, Ret.; Director of the Central
Intelligence Agency, 1977; Commander in Chief, Allied Forces Southern
Europe (NATO), 1975; Commander, U.S. Second Fleet, 1974; Illinois
The Honorable Alexander F. Watson; Assistant Secretary of State for
Inter-American Affairs, 1993; Ambassador to Brazil, 1992; Deputy
Permanent Representative to the United Nations, 1989; Ambassador to
Peru, 1986; Maryland
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SpikeSpiegel
> > > >>
> > > >> hell no
> > > >> Bush should send his girls to Iraq if its so important.
> > > >
> > > > You're in favour of conscription?
> > >
> > > For the defense of our country, yes.....not for Bush,Jr's adventures.
> >
> >
> > here here
>
> That was a swift change of policy. You don't agree with conscription
> for Bush's "adventures", but a few posts ago you suggested that he
> should "send his girls to Iraq if it's so important". Which is it?
Iraq is no threat to the USA, never was.
Bush wants to fight there let him do it wit his family members.
