Fox's O'Reilly Challenges Leftist Bruce Springsteen To Debate
anon...@dizum.com
Bruce Springsteen, to appear on the "O'Reilley Factor" to defend his
anti-Bush, anti-capitalist and anti-American views. O'Reilly offered
Springsteen $20,000 for a chance to defend his kooky ideology on
national TV. But apparently the mouthy, opinionated Springsteen has
chickened out. Just like so many other kooky "liberals", Democrat
politicians and naive Hollywood stars and entertainers.
Come to think of it very few outspoken "liberal" entertainers, artists
and entertainers have shown the courage to confront Bill O'Reilly.
The lists of no-shows would include people like Barack Obama, Hillary
Clinton, George
Soros, Susan Sarandon, Alec Baldwin, Henry Waxman, Harry Reid,
Nancy Pelosi, Jane Fonda, John Edwards,Sean Penn and the list goes on and
on.
Arizona Bushwhacker
<anon...@dizum.com> wrote in message
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> Bill O'Reilly of Fox News has invited the Sean Penn of rock music,
> Bruce Springsteen, to appear on the "O'Reilley Factor" to defend his
> anti-Bush, anti-capitalist and anti-American views.
When will Billo invite Keith Olberman on his show to
debate the issues?
SportsBookJunkie
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......
Yawn, did you say something.
20K for Bruce to appear on O'Lielees show? For what? Bruce makes 20K
just standing still and breathing.
Bruce doesn't need to appear on Dildos show to get his message across.
Nor does he need to defend himself to another chickenhawk, right wing,
blowhard, talk show host who gets off on staring at himself in the
mirror.
Joe Steel
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O'Reilly's audience is primarily misfits and malcontents, toadies and
dupes. Why would anyone who didn't want to talk to that kind of person
go on O'Reilly's show?
Mike Flannigan
"Joe Steel" <JoeS...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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Democrats sponsor a bill called "the restoration of habeas corpus act of
2007" and it worked beautifully. Bruce, like so many idiot democrats, now
think that Bush somehow started prohibiting habeas corpus to "enemy
combatants" or prisoners of war.
As if they EVER had it in the first place.
What a fucking MORON!
Bwahahahahahah!
Mike Flannigan
"SportsBookJunkie" <Jimm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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O'Reilly would chew the brainwashed little dumbass up and spit him out.
Thoot..
Baldin Lee Pramer
> Bill O'Reilly of Fox News has invited the Sean Penn of rock music,
> Bruce Springsteen, to appear on the "O'Reilley Factor" to defend his
> anti-Bush, anti-capitalist and anti-American views. O'Reilly offered
> Springsteen $20,000 for a chance to defend his kooky ideology on
> national TV. But apparently the mouthy, opinionated Springsteen has
> chickened out.
O'Reilly does not debate. Apparently you have never seen a real
debate. There has not been a presidential debate for over 20 years. To
get your facts straight, and learn the real definition of the word
"debate", look in the newspaper for references to college or high
school debating teams. Go to one of these debates and you will be
surprised.
BLP
Arizona Bushwhacker
"Mike Flannigan" <M...@yomoashouse.com> wrote in message
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That's why Billo needs to invite Lou Dobbs on his show.
SportsBookJunkie
> "SportsBookJunkie" <JimmyD...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
BWAAHHHHHHH!!!
The only thing O'Lielee spits out is the dick he's sucking at the
time.
Why the hell would Bruce give a rat's ass about what Ol' Dildo thinks?
Bildo is just another right-wing TV hack who makes money by getting
all your bushbots to worship at his feet. That's what sells
advertising, not any real "debate" skills that he doesn't and will
NEVER have.
Here's what's really pissing you off. When Bildo finally kicks, he'll
be remembered only in the shrines of the KKK right, who will worship
him as one of the twelve apostles of the Bush administration's
lackluster legacy.
Bruce will live long beyond his death, in the hearts of fans who
continue to buy and listen to his music.
zzpat
circus. Why can't O'Reilly or any other conservative debate a liberal
in an open forum?
Besides, the last time O'Reilly went toe-to-to with Al Franken, he got
his ass kicked.
--
Pat
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turk
You don't see Olbermann bothering to invite that self-parody, burned out has
been Ted Nugent on his show. I'm sure he'd be happy to host Falafel man,
though. And that being said, I still think Springsteen would end up getting
his mic cut as soon as he embarrassed Falafel man, which he inevitably
would. Keep in mind, George Clooney has challenged the Falafel man to a
debate and he has ducked him. Hopefully, if Springsteen accepts, he will
insist it occurs on a different show so it's not just a ratings boost for
Falafel man's sinking show. That, and Falafel man won't be able to cut his
mic when Springsteen puts him in his place.
turk
--
Then take it into your own hands, Mr. Bush. Go to Baghdad now and fulfill,
finally, your military service obligations. Go there and fight, your war...
your self.
--Keith Olbermann, July 19, 2007
Clint Hunter
What horseshit. Our public high schools are terrible. The students are
almost all abysmally stupid and ignorant.
Mike Flannigan
It's not about what O'Reilly thinks, moron.
Bruce wrote a book, and he'd get eaten alive trying to defend his idiocy.
> Bildo is just another right-wing TV hack who makes money by getting
> all your bushbots to worship at his feet. That's what sells
> advertising, not any real "debate" skills that he doesn't and will
> NEVER have.
David Letterman: I think about 60% of what you say is crap.
O'Reilly: Oh yeah, well give me an example.
Letterman: I can't. I don't watch the show.
That was O'Reilly making an ass out of Letterman, since you no doubt need it
explained to you. And Letterman pretty well typifies your remarks here as
well. No specifics, just a rant.
> Here's what's really pissing you off. When Bildo finally kicks, he'll
> be remembered only in the shrines of the KKK right, who will worship
> him as one of the twelve apostles of the Bush administration's
> lackluster legacy.
What pisses you off is that O'Reilly kicks the shit out of your liberal
icons and makes fools out of them.
> Bruce will live long beyond his death, in the hearts of fans who
> continue to buy and listen to his music.
He should stick to his music and stop talking out of his ass about things he
hasn't a clue about, as he's making a fool out of himself to those of us who
do.
Mike Flannigan
"Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldin...@msn.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 9, 9:36 am, anonym...@dizum.com wrote:
>> Bill O'Reilly of Fox News has invited the Sean Penn of rock music,
>> Bruce Springsteen, to appear on the "O'Reilley Factor" to defend his
>> anti-Bush, anti-capitalist and anti-American views. O'Reilly offered
>> Springsteen $20,000 for a chance to defend his kooky ideology on
>> national TV. But apparently the mouthy, opinionated Springsteen has
>> chickened out.
>
> O'Reilly does not debate.
Translation: O'Reilly kicks libs in the ass so the DNC told me to claim that
he doesn't debate as an excuse for my side's humiliation.
Arizona Bushwhacker
>
>
> It's not about what O'Reilly thinks, moron.
Isn't it cool the way Billo threatens to sic
FOX Security on anyone who dares mention
Keith Olberman, when they call Billo on
his radio comedy show?
Caller: Keith Olberman...
Billo: Expect a visit from FOX Security....
I love it!
Mike Flannigan
"zzpat" <zzpa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> When O'Reilly controls the microphone, it's not a debate. It's a circus.
> Why can't O'Reilly or any other conservative debate a liberal in an open
> forum?
> Besides, the last time O'Reilly went toe-to-to with Al Franken, he got his
> ass kicked.
DNC talking point #7612. Since O'Reilly regularly kicks us straight in the
ass, claim that it's because he doesn't debate.
BRAACK!
Arizona Bushwhacker
I remember watching the Billo comedy show on the FOX
comedy channel once, and Bill had a 911 Conspiracy guest
on. Billo called him every bad name in the book, and then
said "You have NO evidence". The guest said... "Sure I
do, let me show it to you". Billo said, "Not on my show".
And pulled the plug!
Yep, Billo can really stand up to a debate! What a comedian!
El Tico
> "Joe Steel" <JoeSt...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>
> news:Xns99C46EE8...@216.168.3.70...
>
>
>
> > anonym...@dizum.com wrote in
When you say "moron", are you referring to yourself? Probably not,
but then we can only assume that you were unaware that an "enemy
combatant" is anybody Bush says is enemy combatant. The detainee bill
defines enemy combatant as anyone who has "has purposefully and
materially supported hostilities against the United States." This
vague and meaningless definition has already been applied to a person
whose only crime was to sell a satellite TV package that included the
Hezbollah network.
If the definition of habeas corpus can be that broad, it defies a
common rule of law dating back almost 800 years to the Magna Carta,
which you probably don't know anything about or may have never even
heard of.
So, in summary, fuck you and fuck the United Sates government. If you
represent even a small sample of American thinking on the subject, the
country deserves what is coming.
Lamont Cranston
Sure he would, Felcher. "Shut up! Shut up! Cut his mic! Cut his mic!"
The "dumbass" makes more in a week than you will in your entire miserable
life.
Patriot Games
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>> Bill O'Reilly of Fox News has invited the Sean Penn of rock music,
>> Bruce Springsteen, to appear on the "O'Reilley Factor" to defend his
>> anti-Bush, anti-capitalist and anti-American views. O'Reilly offered
>> Springsteen $20,000 for a chance to defend his kooky ideology on
>> national TV. But apparently the mouthy, opinionated Springsteen has
>> chickened out. Just like so many other kooky "liberals", Democrat
>> politicians and naive Hollywood stars and entertainers.
>> Come to think of it very few outspoken "liberal" entertainers, artists
>> and entertainers have shown the courage to confront Bill O'Reilly.
>> The lists of no-shows would include people like Barack Obama, Hillary
>> Clinton, George
>> Soros, Susan Sarandon, Alec Baldwin, Henry Waxman, Harry Reid,
>> Nancy Pelosi, Jane Fonda, John Edwards,Sean Penn and the list goes on and
>> on.
> ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......
> Yawn, did you say something.
He said Bruth is a pussy and a coward.
> 20K for Bruce to appear on O'Lielees show? For what? Bruce makes 20K
> just standing still and breathing.
> Bruce doesn't need to appear on Dildos show to get his message across.
> Nor does he need to defend himself to another chickenhawk, right wing,
> blowhard, talk show host who gets off on staring at himself in the
> mirror.
Bruth is a pussy and a coward.
Patriot Games
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> "Mike Flannigan" <M...@yomoashouse.com> wrote in message
> news:YDNOi.3840$Qa....@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> Sure he would, Felcher. "Shut up! Shut up! Cut his mic! Cut his mic!"
> The "dumbass" makes more in a week than you will in your entire miserable
> life.
Bruth is a pussy and a coward.
Patriot Games
news:Xns99C46EE8...@216.168.3.70...
> dupes. Why would anyone who didn't want to talk to that kind of person
> go on O'Reilly's show?
Bruth is a pussy and a coward.
Patriot Games
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Bruth is a pussy and a coward.
Baldin Lee Pramer
Any high school with a debating team is probably one of the better
ones, and a student on that team could probably kick your ass in
debate. Your blanket statement without supporting evidence is a good
indicator that you were not schooled in debate.
BLP
Baldin Lee Pramer
> "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpra...@msn.com> wrote in messagenews:1191945999.2...@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
Seriously, if you believe that what O'Reilly does is debate, then you
do not know the meaning of the word. Do you think you have seen a
presidential debate?
BLP
Zigler
> "SportsBookJunkie" <JimmyD...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Who, that arrogant fucking smug-assed prick?
Yawn.
Mike Flannigan
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont....@CloudYourMind.com> wrote in message
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>
Al Frakenfurter, the sniveling, nasally little prick: He's a liar. He's
lyin'. Na na na-na naa. No, he's a liar. He's lyin'. Neener neener.. He's
lying. He's a liar..
> The "dumbass" makes more in a week than you will in your entire miserable
> life.
The dumbass made his money making music, but doesn't have enough brains to
know his political opinions are based on every standard issue load of
left-wing horse shit in the book. People over at the DNC laugh at him and
high-five at what a grand job they've done fucking his brains out.
If Hitlery gets elected nothing will change except the left's propaganda
machine and media won't tell him bad things anymore so all will be well for
the typical brainwashed little toady.
Mike Flannigan
"Zigler" <mister...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Why bring Al Franken into this?
Armand Tamzarian
216.168.3.70:
This is where you leftists are wrong and why you lose so many times in
national elections. You think that the people who listen to Limbaugh and
O'Reilly are a bunch of redneck hicks or dumb sheep who do what these
guys tell them to do. But you are 100% wrong. Not only do O'Reilly and
Limbaugh totally blow everybody else out of the water in ratings, but
demographics show that their audiences tend to be over 40 years old,
highly educated, earn well above the average American, give much more to
charity than the average American, and actually vote far more than the
average American, just to name a few things.
The age factor probably gives credence to author Jack London's famous
saying, "Anybody under 40 who is not a socialist has no heart, but
anybody over 40 who remains a socialist has no brains!"
gen...@gmail.com
> Bill O'Reilly of Fox News has invited the Sean Penn of rock music,
> Bruce Springsteen, to appear on the "O'Reilley Factor" to defend his
> anti-Bush, anti-capitalist and anti-American views. O'Reilly offered
> Springsteen $20,000 for a chance to defend his kooky ideology on
> national TV. But apparently the mouthy, opinionated Springsteen has
> chickened out. Just like so many other kooky "liberals", Democrat
> politicians and naive Hollywood stars and entertainers.
>
> Come to think of it very few outspoken "liberal" entertainers, artists
> and entertainers have shown the courage to confront Bill O'Reilly.
> The lists of no-shows would include people like Barack Obama, Hillary
> Clinton, George
> Soros, Susan Sarandon, Alec Baldwin, Henry Waxman, Harry Reid,
> Nancy Pelosi, Jane Fonda, John Edwards,Sean Penn and the list goes on and
> on.
O'Reilly doesn't debate. O'Reilly antagonizes and yells at his guests,
and often cuts them off and sneaks in the last word. I don't blame
anyone for taking a pass to have a "talk" with any of the screaming
heads - O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Hitler. It's not civil discourse
with these assholes, it's a torture chamber. Kudos to Springsteen if
he want's to ignore these ranting loonatics.
Mike Flannigan
"El Tico" <sarom...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Let me make this as simple as possible for you. Habeas corpus is a right of
US citizens and has never been for prisoners of war or enemy combatants, or
whatever the fuck you want to call them, in history of the fucking United
States. Habeas corpus CANNOT, as a practical matter, be lent to them because
it would flood our courts, force intelligence to be exposed, and generally
make it impossible to fight back. Can you imagine habeas corpus during WWI,
WWII? Millions given the right to have a day in court? Oh yeah, that would
really work wouldn't it? FDR, along with very other president in US was
obviously a fascist, huh brainwashed dumbfuck. What fucking country are you
from, MF? Why don't you give them all a day in your courts. Give them the
right to sue your stupid, judgmental ass. I bet you're in Canada enjoying
the benefits of our blood and treasure. Fuck you and your awash in fascist
lies bullshit of a country.
Mike Flannigan
Oh goddamn: Debate - a discussion of two opposing viewpoints.
And that's exactly what goes on on O'Reilly on the occasions that the
democrat doesn't show up with a litany of talking points that have nothing
to do with the discussion.
It's just like in this NG. It's virtually impossible to find a democrat that
doesn't speak virtually exclusively in DNC talking points.
The asinine O'Reilly doesn't debate routine is one of them.
Nice rendition, you've got 'em down pat.
I remember O'Reilly had Dennis Kucinich on one night and he claimed that
Bush lied about WMDs. So O'Reilly asked him, well the Clinton's said that
too. Did they lie?
Guess what he said? I'll give you a hint. It's the EXACT stupid fucking
thing I get in this NG of indoctrinated morons every fucking time. Go ahead
guess..
"Well, he didn't start a war." Never fails. Now what the fuck does that have
to do with a fucking thing?
Answer: Nothing. It's just what the DNC has taught you to parrot.
THAT is what is called destroying debate.
Here, let me give you an example:
O'Reilly: So, what do you think about said current event.
Democrat: Bush lied about WMDs.
O'Reilly: Uhmmm.. yeah.. So anyway. What do you think about said current
event.
Democrat: Bush wants to take healthcare away from poor children.
O'Reilly: Uhmmm.. yeah.. So anyway. What do you think about said current
event.
Democrat: Bush lied about WMDs.
O'Reilly: Uhmmm.. yeah.. So anyway. What do you think about said current
event.
Democrat: Bush wants to take healthcare away from poor children.
O'Reilly: So, what do you think about said current event.
Democrat: Bush lied about WMDs.
O'Reilly: Uhmmm.. yeah.. So anyway. What do you think about said current
event.
Democrat: Bush wants to take healthcare away from poor children.
O'Reilly: Uhmmm.. yeah.. So anyway. What do you think about said current
event.
Democrat: Bush lied about WMDs.
O'Reilly: Oh, fuck it. Coming up next, a discussion with an actual human
being.
Democrat: Whaaaa... Whaaaaa... He won't debate me...Whaaaa... Whaaaaa..
Bradley K. Sherman
Mike Flannigan <M...@yomoashouse.com> wrote:
>
>
>"Well, he didn't start a war." Never fails. Now what the fuck does that have
>to do with a fucking thing?
>
There are 3,000 dead American soldiers and a million dead Iraqi
civilians who might quibble --if they weren't dead that is.
--bks
zzpat
Name one debate O'Reilly had with any liberal when he didn't control the
microphone in which he won? You can't. In fact, you can't tell me of
one debate Bush won against Gore or one debate he won against Kerry. AND
you can't tell me when Rush Limbaugh had an open and honest debate with
a liberal and won.
In your small (and let's face it pathetic) world, debate is when your
side controls all the rules, the microphone and the ability to shut down
the debate when your guy gets his ass handed to him on a silver platter.
That is not debate. That's an intellectual circus.
--
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Joe Steel
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None of which invalidates my assertion. It just makes the audience rich
misfits with degrees who give money to hate groups and vote for demagogues.
zzpat
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> O'Reilly doesn't debate. O'Reilly antagonizes and yells at his guests,
> and often cuts them off and sneaks in the last word. I don't blame
> anyone for taking a pass to have a "talk" with any of the screaming
> heads - O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Hitler. It's not civil discourse
> with these assholes, it's a torture chamber. Kudos to Springsteen if
> he want's to ignore these ranting loonatics.
>
What do you expect from conservatives. They lost the debate on tax cuts.
They don't work. They lost the debate on global warming. It's real. They
lost the debate on health care reform. It will happen. They lost the
debate on WMD. They don't exist. They lost the debate on Iraq. It has
nothing to do with the war on terror.
What's left? Does anyone still care what a conservative thinks? They're
losers - we know it and they know it.
Mike Flannigan
"Bradley K. Sherman" <b...@panix.com> wrote in message
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Nice deletion of the context, typical dishonest democrat.
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that
Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons
stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also
given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members,
though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible
events of September 11, 2001."
-Hillary Clinton - Oct 2002
"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat
Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use
them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and
all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow."
-Bill Clinton - 1998
Now, how come they lied, Sherwood?
John
> Bruce Springsteen, to appear on the "O'Reilley Factor" to defend his
> anti-Bush, anti-capitalist and anti-American views. O'Reilly offered
> Springsteen $20,000 for a chance to defend his kooky ideology on
> national TV. But apparently the mouthy, opinionated Springsteen has
> chickened out. Just like so many other kooky "liberals", Democrat
> politicians and naive Hollywood stars and entertainers.
>
> Come to think of it very few outspoken "liberal" entertainers, artists
> and entertainers have shown the courage to confront Bill O'Reilly.
> The lists of no-shows would include people like Barack Obama, Hillary
> Clinton, George
> Soros, Susan Sarandon, Alec Baldwin, Henry Waxman, Harry Reid,
> Nancy Pelosi, Jane Fonda, John Edwards,Sean Penn and the list goes on and
> on.
I'd go on O'Reilly's show for free but he wouldn't have me. I would
actually debate him and win while he shouted "shut up" like the weak
little piss ant he is.
John
> On Oct 9, 12:06 pm, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinpra...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 9, 9:36 am, anonym...@dizum.com wrote:
>
> > > Bill O'Reilly of Fox News has invited the Sean Penn of rock music,
> > > Bruce Springsteen, to appear on the "O'Reilley Factor" to defend his
> > > anti-Bush, anti-capitalist and anti-American views. O'Reilly offered
> > > Springsteen $20,000 for a chance to defend his kooky ideology on
> > > national TV. But apparently the mouthy, opinionated Springsteen has
> > > chickened out.
>
> > debate. There has not been a presidential debate for over 20 years. To
> > get your facts straight, and learn the real definition of the word
> > "debate", look in the newspaper for references to college or high
> > school debating teams. Go to one of these debates and you will be
> > surprised.
>
> > BLP
>
> What horseshit. Our public high schools are terrible. The students are
>
Obviously you haven't been in a high school lately. While there are
some bad schools and districts, for the most part, children of today
learn more in school than their parents did when they went to high
school.
Stop reading the headlines and complaining. You're a bore.
Fact Attack
down your throats and called Sacred and Holy. YOU LOVE BRUCE
SPRINGSTEIN!! BUY HIS ALBUMS. HE IS A REALLY TALENTED ARTIST!!
Bruce Springstein is to music, what George Bush is to politics.
Mike Flannigan
> Mike Flannigan wrote:
>> "zzpat" <zzpa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fegbb...@enews4.newsguy.com...
>>> When O'Reilly controls the microphone, it's not a debate. It's a circus.
>>> Why can't O'Reilly or any other conservative debate a liberal in an open
>>> forum?
>>> Besides, the last time O'Reilly went toe-to-to with Al Franken, he got
>>> his ass kicked.
>>
>> DNC talking point #7612. Since O'Reilly regularly kicks us straight in
>> the ass, claim that it's because he doesn't debate.
>>
>> BRAACK!
>
> Name one debate O'Reilly had with any liberal when he didn't control the
> microphone in which he won? You can't. In fact, you can't tell me of one
> debate Bush won against Gore or one debate he won against Kerry. AND you
> can't tell me when Rush Limbaugh had an open and honest debate with a
> liberal and won.
>
> In your small (and let's face it pathetic) world, debate is when your side
> controls all the rules, the microphone and the ability to shut down the
> debate when your guy gets his ass handed to him on a silver platter.
>
> That is not debate. That's an intellectual circus.
You're right. What could I have been thinking? Time again I've been sitting
there watching the show when suddenly the sound goes out on the lib and he's
left just sitting there moving his mouth while nothing is coming out.
Hahahahahaah!
<sniffle><sniffle>
Oh, man....
Where do you guys get your material!
Bwahahahahahaha!
Baldin Lee Pramer
> "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpra...@msn.com> wrote in messagenews:1191956988.1...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 9, 11:15 am, "Mike Flannigan" <M...@yomoashouse.com> wrote:
> >> "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpra...@msn.com> wrote in
> >> messagenews:1191945999.2...@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Oct 9, 9:36 am, anonym...@dizum.com wrote:
> >> >> Bill O'Reilly of Fox News has invited the Sean Penn of rock music,
> >> >> Bruce Springsteen, to appear on the "O'Reilley Factor" to defend his
> >> >> anti-Bush, anti-capitalist and anti-American views. O'Reilly offered
> >> >> Springsteen $20,000 for a chance to defend his kooky ideology on
> >> >> national TV. But apparently the mouthy, opinionated Springsteen has
> >> >> chickened out.
>
> >> > O'Reilly does not debate.
>
> >> Translation: O'Reilly kicks libs in the ass so the DNC told me to claim
> >> that
> >> he doesn't debate as an excuse for my side's humiliation.
>
> > Seriously, if you believe that what O'Reilly does is debate, then you
> > do not know the meaning of the word. Do you think you have seen a
> > presidential debate?
>
> Oh goddamn: Debate - a discussion of two opposing viewpoints.
>
> And that's exactly what goes on on O'Reilly on the occasions that the
> democrat doesn't show up with a litany of talking points that have nothing
> to do with the discussion.
I have seen his show. He certainly is more intelligent than Hannity,
and what he does comes *closer* to debate than others, but please
don't pretend that a guy who turns off other people's mics when he
does not like what they are saying is engaging in "debate". Have you
ever watched a college debate team?
BLP
Patriot Games
> a...@aol.com wrote:
>> O'Reilly doesn't debate. O'Reilly antagonizes and yells at his guests,
>> and often cuts them off and sneaks in the last word. I don't blame
>> anyone for taking a pass to have a "talk" with any of the screaming
>> heads - O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Hitler. It's not civil discourse
>> with these assholes, it's a torture chamber. Kudos to Springsteen if
>> he want's to ignore these ranting loonatics.
> What do you expect from conservatives. They lost the debate on tax cuts.
No they didn't.
> They don't work.
They did work.
> They lost the debate on global warming.
No they didn't.
> It's real.
Nobody said it wasn't real.
> They lost the debate on health care reform.
No they didn't.
> It will happen.
No it won't, unless a Socialist is elected.
> They lost the debate on WMD.
No they didn't.
> They don't exist.
We found enough.
> They lost the debate on Iraq.
No they didn't.
> It has nothing to do with the war on terror.
Of course it does.
> What's left?
Kicking your ass in '08.
zzpat
>>
>> That is not debate. That's an intellectual circus.
>
> You're right. What could I have been thinking? Time again I've been sitting
> there watching the show when suddenly the sound goes out on the lib and he's
> left just sitting there moving his mouth while nothing is coming out.
>
Let me put it this way. Before the Reagan Revolution the US had about
$900 billion of debt. Today, we have over $9 trillion of debt. If
conservatives were right about tax cuts we'd have $9 trillion of
surpluses and none of us would have to worry about the funding collapse
of our government when the boomers retire.
The GOP simply spends the next generations' money and then thinks it's
doing the right thing (pandering). You know the GOP is insane right? You
have to know that by now. If you don't know the GOP is insane, please
find some help.
Any party that's willing to bankrupt the next generation so it can have
power isn't worthy of ever having power again. Democrats can easily
destroy your party if they want to but that party is filled with
centrist and conservative cowards.
zzpat
Let's begin with tax cuts. We have over $9 trillion of debt. Most of it
was created under two tax cutting conservative presidents; Reagan and
Bush. Defend failure if you must but why must you?
The war in Iraq was lost the day it started. It was always based on
lies. Defend a war based on lies if you must but why must you?
The war in Iraq is creating more terrorists and since there were no
terrorists in Iraq before the war, the neocons lost the debate. Besides,
there were no WMD in Iraq either. The US government and the UN verified
these facts for you. The UN verified these facts before the war started
when it said Bush's intelligence was "outdated" and "garbage."
Universal health care is necessary because the US is no longer the
leader in anything. We're rated #37 in medicine, 7th in technology and
we're the biggest debtor nation in the world (we owe other countries
more than they owe us).
But, I'm writing to a conservative - a person without the intellect to
understand basic facts or discuss any issue.
(You should stay away from tall buildings until you can accept the fact
that you're political ideology has wronged you.)
Bradley K. Sherman
I couldn't care less what Bill & Hillary said. You can lock
them up with Bush for all I care. But one thing is for sure,
neither Bill nor Hillary *kicked Hans Blix out of Iraq while
he was saying "Can't find any WMD here."*
--bks
Mike Flannigan
> Mike Flannigan wrote:
>
>>>
>>> That is not debate. That's an intellectual circus.
>>
>> You're right. What could I have been thinking? Time again I've been
>> sitting there watching the show when suddenly the sound goes out on the
>> lib and he's left just sitting there moving his mouth while nothing is
>> coming out.
>>
>
> Let me put it this way. Before the Reagan Revolution the US had about $900
> billion of debt. Today, we have over $9 trillion of debt. If conservatives
> were right about tax cuts we'd have $9 trillion of surpluses and none of
> us would have to worry about the funding collapse of our government when
> the boomers retire.
>
> The GOP simply spends the next generations' money and then thinks it's
> doing the right thing (pandering). You know the GOP is insane right? You
> have to know that by now. If you don't know the GOP is insane, please find
> some help.
>
> Any party that's willing to bankrupt the next generation so it can have
> power isn't worthy of ever having power again. Democrats can easily
> destroy your party if they want to but that party is filled with centrist
> and conservative cowards.
Why did you cut-n-paste this simple-minded bullshit again in response a
discussion about Bill O'Reilly?
Are you so stupid as to think each and every day is brand new with the
economy and nothing done before has any effect? Are you so stupid as to
think that we would have EVER had surpluses in the late 90's had Clinton had
his way with Hillarycare? Are you really so stupid that you don't know that
the economic policies of low-taxation that bolstered economic growth and
increased revenues grew us out of the deficit because those policies
remained in tact? Are you really too stupid to know that the economy Reagen
inherited was the worst in US history save the depression and it was no
doubt going to take 15 to 20 years to dig our way out? Are you really too
stupid to understand that right after Bush took office we experienced a
series of events that were devastating to the economy and revenues including
the recession, the dot-com bust, Enron, WorldCom, 9/11 and Katrina and yet
revenues are soaring and the deficit is shrinking? Actually fucking
shrinking! Are you really so stupid as to believe that the democrats will
spend LESS than republicans? Are you out of your mind!? Are is it that you
think they will and it'll be on your sorry ass and so don't give a shit and
are actually lying?
Heh heh heh..
Nailed you ass....
Patriot Games
The tax cuts did exactly what they were suppossed to do. They pumped money
into the economy thus boosting the economy.
> The war in Iraq was lost the day it started. It was always based on lies.
> Defend a war based on lies if you must but why must you?
No charges = No lies.
No Indictments = No lies.
No impeachment = No lies.
> The war in Iraq is creating more terrorists and since there were no
> terrorists in Iraq before the war, the neocons lost the debate.
Zarqawi was i Iraq before the War. We aren't creating terrorists. We are
simply being the magnet that attracts them to Irag.
> Besides, there were no WMD in Iraq either. The US government and the UN
> verified these facts for you. The UN verified these facts before the war
> started when it said Bush's intelligence was "outdated" and "garbage."
We found a live sarin gas rocket shell in 2004. End of debate. You lost.
> Universal health care is necessary because the US is no longer the leader
> in anything.
That's just self-servingly ignorant.
wby...@ireland.com
<M...@yomoashouse.com> wrote:
(snip)
>> The only thing O'Lielee spits out is the dick he's sucking at the
>> time. Why the hell would Bruce give a rat's ass about what Ol' Dildo thinks?
>
>It's not about what O'Reilly thinks, moron.
>Bruce wrote a book, and he'd get eaten alive trying to defend his idiocy.
And what book is that? Maybe you're talking about his new CD Magic?
It's gotten 5 star reviews from the music press - but they're probably
a bunch of left-wing Commie simps and Blowhard Bill is more
believable.
>> Bildo is just another right-wing TV hack who makes money by getting
>> all your bushbots to worship at his feet. That's what sells
>> advertising, not any real "debate" skills that he doesn't and will
>> NEVER have.
>
>David Letterman: I think about 60% of what you say is crap.
>O'Reilly: Oh yeah, well give me an example.
>Letterman: I can't. I don't watch the show.
>That was O'Reilly making an ass out of Letterman, since you no doubt need it
>explained to you. And Letterman pretty well typifies your remarks here as
>well. No specifics, just a rant.
Ummmm it was the other way around. Letterman kept his cool while
Blowhard Bill just fumed.
>> Here's what's really pissing you off. When Bildo finally kicks, he'll
>> be remembered only in the shrines of the KKK right, who will worship
>> him as one of the twelve apostles of the Bush administration's
>> lackluster legacy.
>
>What pisses you off is that O'Reilly kicks the shit out of your liberal
>icons and makes fools out of them.
Blowhard Bill makes an ass out of himself with little or no help from
others.
>> Bruce will live long beyond his death, in the hearts of fans who
>> continue to buy and listen to his music.
>He should stick to his music and stop talking out of his ass about things he
>hasn't a clue about, as he's making a fool out of himself to those of us who
>do.
Springsteen's legacy will live long after O'Reilly is dead and gone.
Have you ever listened to the man? His visions of what American is and
should be are spot on - you know - things like the regular folks
getting screwed - things like outsourcing - things like the crap war
in Iraq.
WB Yeats
Mike Flannigan
You don't care if they lied, Sherwood?
> You can lock
> them up with Bush for all I care.
How come Billy boy bombed in 98 when Saddam didn't have WMDs? Big
conspiracy?
The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed Iraq's
illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam Hussein did not
try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by the chief U.S.
weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every prewar assertion
made by top administration officials about Iraq.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html
> But one thing is for sure,
> neither Bill nor Hillary *kicked Hans Blix out of Iraq while
> he was saying "Can't find any WMD here."*
Oh, goddamn..
The Bix Report - Jan 03
Chemical weapons
The nerve agent VX is one of the most toxic ever developed.
Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few
tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable.
Consequently, it was said, that the agent was never weaponised. Iraq said
that the small quantity of agent remaining after the Gulf War was
unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.
UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account. There
are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and
stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been declared.
Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the purity
of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than declared.
There are also indications that the agent was weaponised. In addition,
there are questions to be answered concerning the fate of the VX precursor
chemicals, which Iraq states were lost during bombing in the Gulf War or
were unilaterally destroyed by Iraq.
I would now like to turn to the so-called “Air Force document” that I have
discussed with the Council before. This document was originally found by an
UNSCOM inspector in a safe in Iraqi Air Force Headquarters in 1998 and taken
from her by Iraqi minders. It gives an account of the expenditure of bombs,
including chemical bombs, by Iraq in the Iraq-Iran War. I am encouraged by
the fact that Iraq has now provided this document to UNMOVIC.
The document indicates that 13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the Iraqi
Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that 19,500 bombs
were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a discrepancy of 6,500
bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these bombs would be in the order of
about 1,000 tonnes. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, we must
assume that these quantities are now unaccounted for.
The discovery of a number of 122 mm chemical rocket warheads in a bunker at
a storage depot 170 km southwest of Baghdad was much publicized. This was a
relatively new bunker and therefore the rockets must have been moved there
in the past few years, at a time when Iraq should not have had such
munitions.
The investigation of these rockets is still proceeding. Iraq states that
they were overlooked from 1991 from a batch of some 2,000 that were stored
there during the Gulf War. This could be the case. They could also be the
tip of a submerged iceberg. The discovery of a few rockets does not resolve
but rather points to the issue of several thousands of chemical rockets that
are unaccounted for.
The finding of the rockets shows that Iraq needs to make more effort to
ensure that its declaration is currently accurate. During my recent
discussions in Baghdad, Iraq declared that it would make new efforts in this
regard and had set up a committee of investigation. Since then it has
reported that it has found a further 4 chemical rockets at a storage depot
in Al Taji.
I might further mention that inspectors have found at another site a
laboratory quantity of thiodiglycol, a mustard gas precursor.
Whilst I am addressing chemical issues, I should mention a matter, which I
reported on 19 December 2002, concerning equipment at a civilian chemical
plant at Al Fallujah. Iraq has declared that it had repaired chemical
processing equipment previously destroyed under UNSCOM supervision, and had
installed it at Fallujah for the production of chlorine and phenols. We have
inspected this equipment and are conducting a detailed technical evaluation
of it. On completion, we will decide whether this and other equipment that
has been recovered by Iraq should be destroyed.
Biological weapons
I have mentioned the issue of anthrax to the Council on previous occasions
and I come back to it as it is an important one.
Iraq has declared that it produced about 8,500 litres of this biological
warfare agent, which it states it unilaterally destroyed in the summer of
1991. Iraq has provided little evidence for this production and no
convincing evidence for its destruction.
There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it
declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the declared
destruction date. It might still exist. Either it should be found and be
destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision or else convincing evidence should be
produced to show that it was, indeed, destroyed in 1991.
As I reported to the Council on 19 December last year, Iraq did not declare
a significant quantity, some 650 kg, of bacterial growth media, which was
acknowledged as imported in Iraq’s submission to the Amorim panel in
February 1999. As part of its 7 December 2002 declaration, Iraq resubmitted
the Amorim panel document, but the table showing this particular import of
media was not included. The absence of this table would appear to be
deliberate as the pages of the resubmitted document were renumbered.
In the letter of 24 January to the President of the Council, Iraq’s Foreign
Minister stated that “all imported quantities of growth media were declared”.
This is not evidence. I note that the quantity of media involved would
suffice to produce, for example, about 5,000 litres of concentrated anthrax.
Missiles
I turn now to the missile sector. There remain significant questions as to
whether Iraq retained SCUD-type missiles after the Gulf War. Iraq declared
the consumption of a number of SCUD missiles as targets in the development
of an anti-ballistic missile defence system during the 1980s. Yet no
technical information has been produced about that programme or data on the
consumption of the missiles.
There has been a range of developments in the missile field during the past
four years presented by Iraq as non-proscribed activities. We are trying to
gather a clear understanding of them through inspections and on-site
discussions.
Two projects in particular stand out. They are the development of a
liquid-fuelled missile named the Al Samoud 2, and a solid propellant
missile, called the Al Fatah. Both missiles have been tested to a range in
excess of the permitted range of 150 km, with the Al Samoud 2 being tested
to a maximum of 183 km and the Al Fatah to 161 km. Some of both types of
missiles have already been provided to the Iraqi Armed Forces even though it
is stated that they are still undergoing development.
The Al Samoud’s diameter was increased from an earlier version to the
present 760 mm. This modification was made despite a 1994 letter from the
Executive Chairman of UNSCOM directing Iraq to limit its missile diameters
to less than 600 mm. Furthermore, a November 1997 letter from the Executive
Chairman of UNSCOM to Iraq prohibited the use of engines from certain
surface-to-air missiles for the use in ballistic missiles.
During my recent meeting in Baghdad, we were briefed on these two
programmes. We were told that the final range for both systems would be
less than the permitted maximum range of 150 km.
These missiles might well represent prima facie cases of proscribed systems.
The test ranges in excess of 150 km are significant, but some further
technical considerations need to be made, before we reach a conclusion on
this issue. In the mean time, we have asked Iraq to cease flight tests of
both missiles.
In addition, Iraq has refurbished its missile production infrastructure. In
particular, Iraq reconstituted a number of casting chambers, which had
previously been destroyed under UNSCOM supervision. They had been used in
the production of solid-fuel missiles. Whatever missile system these
chambers are intended for, they could produce motors for missiles capable of
ranges significantly greater than 150 km.
Also associated with these missiles and related developments is the import,
which has been taking place during the last few years, of a number of items
despite the sanctions, including as late as December 2002. Foremost amongst
these is the import of 380 rocket engines which may be used for the Al
Samoud 2.
Mike Flannigan
I have watched the show almost every night for years, and I have NEVER seen
him cut off anyone's mic. Though I wish to god he would sometimes when he
has one of those lying idiot dem talking point parrots on.
Kind of like the talking point that he cuts off the microphone that you are
parroting here.
BRAACK!
Mike Flannigan
>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> O'Reilly doesn't debate. O'Reilly antagonizes and yells at his guests,
>> and often cuts them off and sneaks in the last word. I don't blame
>> anyone for taking a pass to have a "talk" with any of the screaming
>> heads - O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Hitler. It's not civil discourse
>> with these assholes, it's a torture chamber. Kudos to Springsteen if
>> he want's to ignore these ranting loonatics.
>>
>
> What do you expect from conservatives. They lost the debate on tax cuts.
> They don't work. They lost the debate on global warming. It's real. They
> lost the debate on health care reform. It will happen. They lost the
> debate on WMD.
She did?
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that
Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons
stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also
given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members,
though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible
events of September 11, 2001."
-Hillary Clinton - Oct 2002
> They don't exist. They lost the debate on Iraq. It has nothing to do with
> the war on terror.
Tell that to Billy boy, DNC talking point parroting moron.
"provide them to terrorists"
Baldin Lee Pramer
> "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpra...@msn.com> wrote in messagenews:1191967661.1...@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
So you have never seen it? Take a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BAFb97L3KU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsuooIpnArQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl0ePtUjDSo
He also will yell at guests to "Shut UP!" This is simply not good
debate.
BLP
Zigler
Shut the fuck up, racist, "porch nigger"-hating piece of shit.
Zigler
> "Zigler" <misterzig...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1191957377.9...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 9, 11:04 am, "Mike Flannigan" <M...@yomoashouse.com> wrote:
> >> "SportsBookJunkie" <JimmyD...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1191944455....@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Oct 9, 8:36 am, anonym...@dizum.com wrote:
> >> >> Bill O'Reilly of Fox News has invited the Sean Penn of rock music,
> >> >> Bruce Springsteen, to appear on the "O'Reilley Factor" to defend his
> >> >> anti-Bush, anti-capitalist and anti-American views. O'Reilly offered
> >> >> Springsteen $20,000 for a chance to defend his kooky ideology on
> >> >> national TV. But apparently the mouthy, opinionated Springsteen has
> >> >> politicians and naive Hollywood stars and entertainers.
>
> >> >> Come to think of it very few outspoken "liberal" entertainers, artists
> >> >> and entertainers have shown the courage to confront Bill O'Reilly.
> >> >> The lists of no-shows would include people like Barack Obama, Hillary
> >> >> Clinton, George
> >> >> Soros, Susan Sarandon, Alec Baldwin, Henry Waxman, Harry Reid,
> >> >> Nancy Pelosi, Jane Fonda, John Edwards,Sean Penn and the list goes on
> >> >> and
> >> >> on.
>
>
> >> > Yawn, did you say something.
>
> >> > 20K for Bruce to appear on O'Lielees show? For what? Bruce makes 20K
> >> > just standing still and breathing.
>
> >> > Bruce doesn't need to appear on Dildos show to get his message across.
> >> > Nor does he need to defend himself to another chickenhawk, right wing,
> >> > blowhard, talk show host who gets off on staring at himself in the
> >> > mirror.
>
> >> O'Reilly would chew the brainwashed little dumbass up and spit him out.
>
> >> Thoot..
>
> > Who, that arrogant fucking smug-assed prick?
>
> > Yawn.
>
> Why bring Al Franken into this?
My daddy can kick your daddy's ass....
My Chevy is better than your Ford....
bla bla bla
Grow the fuck up, already....
Most of those fucking bobble heads are arrogant pricks. Yet so many of
you idiots hang on their every word. Many of them exist only to piss
people off, propagate lies and deception, shut down real debate and
discussion, thus attracting a following of idiots to consume the
advertising that funds them in the first place. And yet you play their
asinine game....
Zigler
Lamont Cranston
Mikey Felcher isn't very bright and isn't very observant. He ignores
anything that interferes with his delusions.