Please: Won't you think about the feelings of the Wealthy?
Gandalf Grey
Please: Won't you think about the feelings of the Wealthy?
By xxdr_zombiexx
Created Dec 18 2009 - 9:03am
Look, you selfish and short-sighted Liberals: we just cannot afford to help
people. OK?
We cannot afford to blow perfectly good money on America's teeming masses.
You have to give up on attempts to help the little people. We can't waste
time worrying about friggin' polar bears and butterflies.
The rich will suffer.
And that is simply Un-American.
We have to get together on this before it's too late.
We have wealthy people to enrich, we have brown-skinned foreigners to kill,
shit to blow up, terrorists to torture, and oil to steal.
We have to bail out Wall Street. We have to. They cannot be expected to lose
money and just go on like the poor. These are different people. They are....
better.
Just as the poor are used to being "poor" the rich are used to being rich.
IT will be traumatic for them to lose the lifestyles to which they have
become accustomed.
Remember when the poor selfishly caused the housing market to collapse by
tricking mortgage companies? The wealthy were at risk of having their
incomes limited, sometimes to a mere $500000 a year! Heinous!
They are .....better. This is why they are rich to begin with: they DESERVE
to be wealthy.It helps to accept this.
And if you are poor, go look in the mirror - there is a reason you are poor.
It is your lot in life, Try to accept it.
It may not seem like it to you, but these people NEED massive profits in
order to retain their classy lifestyles. It's unfair to even begin to think
about asking these fine people to worry their beautiful minds about hoardes
of poorly-bred mower-class people. It's just not right.
Wealthy people are wealthy because they are simply better. I don't know why
this is so difficult to grasp.
Health Care Reform is BAD!
With regards to healthcare, we cannot be allowing ourselves to be distracted
by the suffering and setbacks of little people who are not even remotely
rich.
Insurance companies have worked very hard to be one of the most lucrative
industries ever and reform will harm that. Single-handedly they have made
healthcare costs to grow to one-sixth of the US economy. This has allowed
them to make far more money than they would have if they had not implemented
managed care. Because of this work they deserve to be wealthy.
See, helping people is a road to hell. Proper access to healthcare options
will only increase the number of poor people we have. These people just are
not like the wealthy. Sure they look like people: they put their clothes on
the same way, but really, they are just a burden to a society organized
around aggrandizement of the wealthy class.
Protecting the Climate is bad for the Rich, too
A lot of wealth is generated by Big Oil. So what if it's causing the Earth
to heat up a little? Big deal.
Cleaning up pollution? BIG waste of time and money that the rich could be
hoarding.
Besides, all that climate change crap has been debunked by some e-mails from
the 1990's.
Trying to fix this will cost wealthy people a lot of profits to which they
are innately entitled.
Reducing the commoners' dependence on petroleum, getting them to drive
efficient cars or- God forbid - develop solar power and electric cars - will
unduly bring hardship to people who are essentially better than you.
Protecting and enriching the wealthy is our only hope for survival. God
would not have made these people rich if there was not a plan. Just as sheep
are meant to have their fleece shorn off to make warm clothes, your purpose
in this Life is to generate wealth for these folks with your consumption and
your cheap labor.
So please, with all due respect, please stop demanding change.
Please stop harrassing the politicians the wealthy have elected and bought
to protect thier classiness.
Just stop it.
Accept your lot in life, be a good commoner and quit dreaming of "change".
Get a couple more jobs. Go buy an SUV.
You'll feel better in the end.
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Werner
> Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)
>
> Please: Won't you think about the feelings of the Wealthy?
>
The first point is that we have to recognize we aren’t making
healthcare more affordable just by making someone else pay for it.
Asking your wealthy uncle to pay two-thirds the price of some $180
tennis shoes does not mean you are buying affordable tennis shoes.
Affordable tennis shoes are ones that have a lower price tag. So how
could we make healthcare more affordable? We should do it the same
way
that other things in our economy have become less expensive over time
— computers, Lasik eye surgery, DVDs.
http://libertyunbound.com/article.php?id=447
Gandalf Grey
"Werner" <whet...@mac.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 18, 2:30 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)
>
> Please: Won't you think about the feelings of the Wealthy?
>
...
^ The first point is that we have to recognize
That the GOP doesn't give one flipping shit about healthcare.
snakehawk
The first point you have to recognize is that healthcare reform is
aimed at bringing down the cost of healthcare insurance, not
necessarily the cost of healthcare. The idea is to find a way to
spread the cost of healthcare among the entire population such that
the unfortunate few who suffer some catastrophic illness will have
money available for medical services without going completely
bankrupt.
It's a cute little Republican trick to keep harping on the costs of
actual medical care and insisting that healthcare legislation designed
to rein in the exploding cost of healthcare insurance will do little
to lower the cost of actual healthcare. It's a diversionary tactic
suggested by the insurance industry and eagerly adopted by the
Republicans and a few unprincipled snakes like Joe Lieberman.
The simple truth is that most people--at least most employed people--
can easily afford to pay for their own routine healthcare like
occasional visits to the doctor, minor cuts, general aches and pains,
etc. The problem is that few people can afford to pay for the
unexpected major health problems involving surgery, extensive
diagnostic tests, and long-term medical care. That's where insurance
comes in. And the problem being addressed in Congress is the
exploding cost of healthcare insurance, not the rising cost of actual
healthcare--they are not the same thing.
Werner
> "Werner" <whetz...@mac.com> wrote in message
That's good. Dems should stay out of the business as well. Want
healthcare? Pay for it. Don't demand someone else pay for you.
Werner
> On Dec 18, 6:54 pm, Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 18, 2:30 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:> Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)
>
> > > Please: Won't you think about the feelings of the Wealthy?
>
> > ...
>
> > The first point is that we have to recognize we aren’t making
> > healthcare more affordable just by making someone else pay for it.
> > Asking your wealthy uncle to pay two-thirds the price of some $180
> > tennis shoes does not mean you are buying affordable tennis shoes.
> > Affordable tennis shoes are ones that have a lower price tag. So how
> > could we make healthcare more affordable? We should do it the same
> > way
> > that other things in our economy have become less expensive over time
> > — computers, Lasik eye surgery, DVDs.http://libertyunbound.com/article.php?id=447
>
> The first point you have to recognize is that healthcare reform is
> aimed at bringing down the cost of healthcare insurance, not
> necessarily the cost of healthcare. The idea is to find a way to
> spread the cost of healthcare among the entire population such that
> the unfortunate few who suffer some catastrophic illness will have
> money available for medical services without going completely
> bankrupt.
>
When the whole country is bankrupt it can't provide much health care.
> It's a cute little Republican trick to keep harping on the costs of
> actual medical care and insisting that healthcare legislation designed
> to rein in the exploding cost of healthcare insurance will do little
> to lower the cost of actual healthcare. It's a diversionary tactic
> suggested by the insurance industry and eagerly adopted by the
> Republicans and a few unprincipled snakes like Joe Lieberman.
>
There is nothing diversionary about national bankruptcy.
> The simple truth is that most people--at least most employed people--
> can easily afford to pay for their own routine healthcare like
> occasional visits to the doctor, minor cuts, general aches and pains,
> etc. The problem is that few people can afford to pay for the
> unexpected major health problems involving surgery, extensive
> diagnostic tests, and long-term medical care. That's where insurance
> comes in. And the problem being addressed in Congress is the
> exploding cost of healthcare insurance, not the rising cost of actual
> healthcare--they are not the same thing.
I think it diversionary to separate health insurance from cost. The
two are related. As medical costs go up so will insurance. The tragedy
of the commons illustrates how socializing medical care leads to
decimation of the resource. So the key is to socialize less and
privatize more.
Gandalf Grey
On Dec 18, 7:48 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Werner" <whetz...@mac.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2b411742-bd1a-4a00...@t12g2000vbk.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 18, 2:30 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:> Published
> on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)
>
> > Please: Won't you think about the feelings of the Wealthy?
>
> ...
>
> ^ The first point is that we have to recognize
>
> That the GOP doesn't give one flipping shit about healthcare.
^ That's good.
How so? We should just keep screwing most everyone and letting everyone
else die. That's your solution. Your libertarian bullshit has never worked
in the history of the entire world, but you're sure it will work with this?
yes?
fost...@gmail.com
> Remember when the poor selfishly caused the housing market to collapse by
> tricking mortgage companies? The wealthy were at risk of having their
> incomes limited, sometimes to a mere $500000 a year! Heinous!
So are we to punish the achievers and job makers to placate the lazy
non-achievers???
Yeah those fucking rich that give people jobs are to blame!!!
Fuck the rich!!!
Give the money that the rich legally earn and give it to the fucking
poor!!!
That will create jobs!!!
</sarcasm>
fost...@gmail.com
>
> How so? We should just keep screwing most everyone and letting everyone
> else die. That's your solution. Your libertarian bullshit has never worked
> in the history of the entire world, but you're sure it will work with this?
> yes?
Your Commie fucktardian system has always been a massive fail!!
Yet idiots like you are still around?
What we have here is a failure to ex-communicate you.
snakehawk
You people just keep playing the same little game. No one is
suggesting that the medical care industry be socialized--or even
regulated. No one is proposing government ownership of hospitals or
clinics, or government employment of doctors and nurses; reform is
aimed at the middlemen, the insurance companies who collect gobs of
money and fight to keep as much of for themselves as they can.
Insurance companies by nature try to avoid insuring anyone who might
really need healthcare. Relying on insurance companies to manage a
universal healthcare system is absurd--but that's exactly what big-
money Republicans are fighting for.
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
Werner most likely is a paid liar for the insurance companies. He isn't
going to mention that their charges in premiums exceed their payouts by a
full 22%, and hopes that you think that it's all caused by those greedy
patients who insurance companies should be allowed to regulate.
Werner
wrote:
> ...
>
> Werner most likely is a paid liar for the insurance companies. He isn't
> going to mention that their charges in premiums exceed their payouts by a
> full 22%, and hopes that you think that it's all caused by those greedy
> patients who insurance companies should be allowed to regulate.
Werner recognizes that you don't want to be regulated by insurance
companies. Werner also recognizes that insurance companies don't want
to be regulated by you. A contract is voluntary. A regulation is
imposed. If you don't like me to impose my values on you shouldn't you
afford the same courtesy to me?
Gandalf Grey
On Dec 19, 10:44 am, "5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
wrote:
> ...
>
> Werner most likely is a paid liar for the insurance companies. He isn't
> going to mention that their charges in premiums exceed their payouts by a
> full 22%, and hopes that you think that it's all caused by those greedy
> patients who insurance companies should be allowed to regulate.
^ Werner recognizes that you don't want to be regulated by insurance
companies.
But since Werner works for the insurance companies, Werner doesn't care.
Gandalf Grey
"ma...@merde.com" <fost...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 18, 11:32 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How so? We should just keep screwing most everyone and letting everyone
> else die. That's your solution. Your libertarian bullshit has never worked
> in the history of the entire world, but you're sure it will work with
> this?
> yes?
^ Your Commie fucktardian system has always been a massive fail!!
The closest thing to a Commie president in this countray was your fucktard
George Bush. And he's universally hated now by the American people. So
shove your lies where the sun doesn't shine and face the fact that
libertarianism is a joke to the American people and to the rest of the
world.
Gandalf Grey
On Dec 18, 2:30 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Remember when the poor selfishly caused the housing market to collapse by
> tricking mortgage companies? The wealthy were at risk of having their
> incomes limited, sometimes to a mere $500000 a year! Heinous!
^ So are we to punish the achievers
No, just the gougers and price sharks while watching libertarian morons like
you scream about the mythical 'free market.'
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
Corporations aren't people. They should not have rights.
Gandalf Grey
"5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09" <de...@dead.com> wrote in message
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Or, if they insist on it, they should have not only the rights of human
beings, but the responsibilities as well, up to and including being arrested
for things like murder, theft, and other major felonies.
Hiccum Blurpaedius
> "ma...@merde.com" <foster...@gmail.com> wrote in message
We should punish the socalled achievers. They are trickster thieves
that have stole and cheated hard working honest people like me. Still
denying my rights and freedom.
Bring the war home
Exterminate God
Werner
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
So? The people keep their rights, as individuals. Only the entity they
have created has no rights.
Should unions have personhood rights the way corporations do?
Werner
Do unions get funerals when the union boss dies? Do unions get sued
when the AFLCIO assembles a defective car? Do unions apply for Food
Stamps when the company can't compete and folds? Do unions pay a
corporation tax, income tax, sales tax? Does the union get swine flu?
Can the union sneeze?
Gandalf Grey
^ Corporations are owned by people.
So are kleenex boxes but kleenex boxes don't have rights.
Gandalf Grey
On Dec 19, 3:56 pm, "5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:41:45 -0800, Werner wrote:
> > On Dec 19, 1:08 pm, "5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:57:14 -0800, Werner wrote:
> >> > On Dec 19, 10:44 am, "5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> ...
>
> >> >> Werner most likely is a paid liar for the insurance companies. He
> >> >> isn't going to mention that their charges in premiums exceed their
> >> >> payouts by a full 22%, and hopes that you think that it's all caused
> >> >> by those greedy patients who insurance companies should be allowed
> >> >> to regulate.
>
> >> > Werner recognizes that you don't want to be regulated by insurance
> >> > companies. Werner also recognizes that insurance companies don't want
> >> > to be regulated by you. A contract is voluntary. A regulation is
> >> > imposed. If you don't like me to impose my values on you shouldn't
> >> > you afford the same courtesy to me?
>
> >> Corporations aren't people. They should not have rights.
>
> > Corporations are owned by people.
>
> So? The people keep their rights, as individuals. Only the entity they
> have created has no rights.
>
> Should unions have personhood rights the way corporations do?
^ Do unions get funerals when the union boss dies? Do unions get sued
when the AFLCIO assembles a defective car? Do unions apply for Food
Stamps when the company can't compete and folds? Do unions pay a
corporation tax, income tax, sales tax? Does the union get swine flu?
Can the union sneeze?
Can a corporation sneeze? Can a corporation get swine flu?
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
> "Werner" <whet...@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:1d9ad02d-7080-48c1-b901-
eafda2...@p32g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
I love pushing a fascist's buttons by mentioning unions. Guess who will
be the first to go to the work camps when they take over?
AFL/CIO has never assembled a car.
Odd how he screeches that unions don't have personhood (and he's too
dense to have noticed that I agree) but that with corporations, well,
that's different.
Werner
wrote:
>...
>
> I love pushing a fascist's buttons by mentioning unions. Guess who will
> be the first to go to the work camps when they take over?
>
Fascists have already taken over. They tell insurance companies what
to do.
Werner
> "Werner" <whetz...@mac.com> wrote in message
That must explain why kleenex don't demand others to pay their health
insurance.
Gandalf Grey
It's all about spouting the talking points in order and without
understanding that's important to these guys.
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
>> Should unions have personhood rights the way corporations do?
>
>
> Do unions get funerals when the union boss dies? Do unions get sued when
> the AFLCIO assembles a defective car? Do unions apply for Food Stamps
> when the company can't compete and folds? Do unions pay a corporation
> tax, income tax, sales tax? Does the union get swine flu? Can the union
> sneeze?
Do corporations?
What makes one different from the other?
Gandalf Grey
On Dec 19, 5:11 pm, "5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
wrote:
>...
>
> I love pushing a fascist's buttons by mentioning unions. Guess who will
> be the first to go to the work camps when they take over?
>
>...
^ Fascists have already taken over.
No. They TOOK over when the GOP had a majority in both houses and the
presidency. Right now, they're just causing a lot of grief.
Gandalf Grey
^ That must explain why kleenex don't demand others to pay their health
insurance.
But leaves unexplained why corporations demand corporate welfare and rights
only coming to human beings.
Gandalf Grey
You're tightening the noose.
leonox1
> "Werner" <whetz...@mac.com> wrote in message
>
> On Dec 18, 2:30 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:> Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)
>
> > Please: Won't you think about the feelings of the Wealthy?
>
> ...
>
>
> That the GOP doesn't give one flipping shit about healthcare.
Don't disparage the Republicans too much. If it weren't for them,
who'd pay for your welfare checks?
Gandalf Grey
"My China Blue Heaven" <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <oq6dnWZY2_ka0rDW...@posted.carinet>,
No they aren't.
Gandalf Grey
"leonox1" <wsjam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 18, 7:48 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Werner" <whetz...@mac.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2b411742-bd1a-4a00...@t12g2000vbk.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 18, 2:30 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:> Published
> on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)
>
> > Please: Won't you think about the feelings of the Wealthy?
>
> ...
>
> ^ The first point is that we have to recognize
>
> That the GOP doesn't give one flipping shit about healthcare.
^ Don't disparage the Republicans too much. If it weren't for them,
There'd be nothing really evil to fight against in this world. Yeah. I
know. Fascism is a terrible thing and GOPs are wannabee fascists.
Not Sure
> On Dec 18, 6:54 pm, Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > Please: Won't you think about the feelings of the Wealthy?
>
> > ...
>
> > healthcare more affordable just by making someone else pay for it.
> > Asking your wealthy uncle to pay two-thirds the price of some $180
> > tennis shoes does not mean you are buying affordable tennis shoes.
> > Affordable tennis shoes are ones that have a lower price tag. So how
> > could we make healthcare more affordable? We should do it the same
> > way
> > that other things in our economy have become less expensive over time
> > — computers, Lasik eye surgery, DVDs.http://libertyunbound.com/article.php?id=447
>
> The first point you have to recognize is that healthcare reform is
> aimed at bringing down the cost of healthcare insurance, not
> necessarily the cost of healthcare.
No one cares what it's "aimed at." If you're deluded enough to think
that this band of dipshits and idiots can control costs in any way, in
any industry, you should be shipped off to a nuthouse. Better luck
lying next time :)
The idea is to find a way to
> spread the cost of healthcare among the entire population such that
> the unfortunate few who suffer some catastrophic illness will have
> money available for medical services without going completely
> bankrupt.
>
> It's a cute little Republican trick to keep harping on the costs of
> actual medical care and insisting that healthcare legislation designed
> to rein in the exploding cost of healthcare insurance will do little
> to lower the cost of actual healthcare. It's a diversionary tactic
> suggested by the insurance industry and eagerly adopted by the
> Republicans and a few unprincipled snakes like Joe Lieberman.
>
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
Or bail them out when they lose money in the Wall Street casinos...
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
> On Dec 18, 6:22 pm, snakehawk <snakeh...@MailAndNews.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 18, 6:54 pm, Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Dec 18, 2:30 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:>
>> > Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)
>>
>> > > Please: Won't you think about the feelings of the Wealthy?
>>
>> > ...
>>
>> > The first point is that we have to recognize we aren’t making
>> > healthcare more affordable just by making someone else pay for it.
>> > Asking your wealthy uncle to pay two-thirds the price of some $180
>> > tennis shoes does not mean you are buying affordable tennis shoes.
>> > Affordable tennis shoes are ones that have a lower price tag. So how
>> > could we make healthcare more affordable? We should do it the same
>> > way
>> > that other things in our economy have become less expensive over time
>> > — computers, Lasik eye surgery,
>> > DVDs.http://libertyunbound.com/article.php?id=447
>>
>> The first point you have to recognize is that healthcare reform is
>> aimed at bringing down the cost of healthcare insurance, not
>> necessarily the cost of healthcare.
>
> No one cares what it's "aimed at." If you're deluded enough to think
> that this band of dipshits and idiots can control costs in any way, in
> any industry, you should be shipped off to a nuthouse. Better luck lying
> next time :)
And yet administrative costs for Social Security are less than 1%,
compared with about 30% for private pensions. Imagine that.
John Q Public
Would they be living next to your fathers closed steel mill lyin sack o marxism
you are
Gandalf Grey
> In article <zYCdnX2IUc-3MLDW...@giganews.com>,
No they aren't.
Gandalf Grey
"5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09" <de...@dead.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:27:52 -0800, Not Sure wrote:
>
>> On Dec 18, 6:22 pm, snakehawk <snakeh...@MailAndNews.com> wrote:
>>> On Dec 18, 6:54 pm, Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Dec 18, 2:30 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:>
>>> > Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)
>>>
>>> > > Please: Won't you think about the feelings of the Wealthy?
>>>
>>> > ...
>>>
>>> > The first point is that we have to recognize we aren't making
>>> > healthcare more affordable just by making someone else pay for it.
>>> > Asking your wealthy uncle to pay two-thirds the price of some $180
>>> > tennis shoes does not mean you are buying affordable tennis shoes.
>>> > Affordable tennis shoes are ones that have a lower price tag. So how
>>> > could we make healthcare more affordable? We should do it the same
>>> > way
>>> > that other things in our economy have become less expensive over time
>>> > DVDs.http://libertyunbound.com/article.php?id=447
>>>
>>> The first point you have to recognize is that healthcare reform is
>>> aimed at bringing down the cost of healthcare insurance, not
>>> necessarily the cost of healthcare.
>>
>> No one cares what it's "aimed at." If you're deluded enough to think
>> that this band of dipshits and idiots can control costs in any way, in
>> any industry, you should be shipped off to a nuthouse. Better luck lying
>> next time :)
>
> And yet administrative costs for Social Security are less than 1%,
> compared with about 30% for private pensions. Imagine that.
These GOP apologists don't have a clue as to how to run a business anymore
than they have a clue as to how to run a government. That's the essential
mistake the public makes when listening to the GOP...the assumption that
somehow the GOP is 'the party of business.' As they've proved over and over
again, the GOP is the 'going out of business party.'
Werner
Neither corporations nor people should demand anything from anyone.
Werner
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
> On Dec 19, 5:42 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Werner" <whetz...@mac.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:dd8cb1d4-f5d4-449b-94ff-
c892b6...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
Dance little fascist, dance!
Should corporations be stripped of legal personhood?
Werner
wrote:
> ...
>
> > Neither corporations nor people should demand anything from anyone.
>
>
> --
First, there have been revolutions. That can't be denied. Second
revolutions happen because the Social Contract was lost. That means
many of people stop being obedient. Often they tire of some people
seeing, wanting and taking their property. This could include the
wealthy. Taxing the rich has limits. Margaret Thatcher reminded us
that. "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of
other people's money." Capital, talent, and jobs have been leaving for
some time.
Dollars in the common treasury are like fish in the common sea -
anyone who can will harvest to extinction. That is why socialism is
fundamentally corrupting and can not work. ----
http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/how.shtml
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp8ZmQMCtqA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FSoXKapKQs&feature=related
Governing has become a way to get privileges for some at the expense
of others.
http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/what.shtml
Phlip
> First, there have been revolutions. That can't be denied. Second
> revolutions happen because the Social Contract was lost. That means
> many of people stop being obedient. Often they tire of some people
> seeing, wanting and taking their property. This could include the
> wealthy.
Your mental blinders are stupifying.
When poor people steal, the other powerful & wealthy help you hunt
them down.
When rich people steal, the other powerful & wealthy defend them from
your vengeance.
Hence, the peasant uprising. Google for a blog entry discussing how
many Goldman Sachs nobles have recently bought handguns...
Gandalf Grey
<Crickets>
Gandalf Grey
On Dec 21, 11:03 am, My China Blue Heaven <chine.b...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> ...
>
> > Neither corporations nor people should demand anything from anyone.
>
> Cool. Nobody can demand I obey the law. See. Want. Take.
>
> --
Resources of any kind are like fish in the common sea -
anyone who can will harvest to extinction. That is why capitalism is
Werner
Stealing has always been outside the Social Contract, no matter who
does it. Goldman Sachs nobles have their people in the government -
BigGovernment. We The People don't. The point you need remember is
that all segments of society tend not to want their property stolen by
government decree.
Werner
> "Werner" <whetz...@mac.com> wrote in message
Well, wild salmon are getting scarcer and more expensive. Fewer people
can afford them. Privately farmed salmon are less scarce and therefor
less expensive. As I'm sure I pointed out before, it was the USSR that
invented factory fishing fleets to empty the common oceans of life.
Phlip
> Stealing has always been outside the Social Contract, no matter who
> does it. Goldman Sachs nobles have their people in the government -
> BigGovernment. We The People don't. The point you need remember is
> that all segments of society tend not to want their property stolen by
> government decree.
Good. Then erase the gov't decrees that allow HMOs to take my money
and then deny me life-saving treatments.
Gandalf Grey
On Dec 21, 2:27 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Werner" <whetz...@mac.com> wrote in message
>
> news:94e47955-236a-4d88...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 21, 11:03 am, My China Blue Heaven <chine.b...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > ...
>
> > > Neither corporations nor people should demand anything from anyone.
>
> > Cool. Nobody can demand I obey the law. See. Want. Take.
>
> > --
>
> Resources of any kind are like fish in the common sea -
> anyone who can will harvest to extinction. That is why capitalism is
> fundamentally corrupting and can not work.
^ Well, wild salmon are getting scarcer and more expensive.
So you agree that capitalism is fundamentally corrupting and cannot work
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
And the worst offenders are Japan, Norway, Canada and the United States.
Werner
HMOs work under a contract. A contract is voluntary. Decrees are not.
Big difference.
Werner
> corporations nor people should demand anything from anyone.'
>
>
Exactly! That's the point. And I don't demand it. A contract is
voluntary.
Firelock
> "leonox1" <wsjames...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Awww, isn't Gandy cute when he demonizes people like that?
His world is so limited that he really doesn't notice any bad
people except the fellow countrymen that he has some
political disagreements with - or, at least, that his masters
told him to hate.
--
Walt
Firelock
> In article <d48d82eb-aa5f-45e2-bbb7-1410fbf74...@19g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>,
You're demanding the right to take other people's stuff. Should
you have that right?
--
Walt
Firelock
> These GOP apologists don't have a clue as to how to run a business
Which is why you chose a bunch of leaders who've never even
run a corner candy store before, and gave them the whole
country to run?
--
Walt
Firelock
> On Dec 19, 12:00 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "ma...@merde.com" <foster...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:3afa2ef9-6fde-4d91...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 18, 2:30 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Remember when the poor selfishly caused the housing market to collapse by
> > > tricking mortgage companies? The wealthy were at risk of having their
> > > incomes limited, sometimes to a mere $500000 a year! Heinous!
>
> > ^ So are we to punish the achievers
>
> > No, just the gougers and price sharks while watching libertarian morons like
> > you scream about the mythical 'free market.'
>
> We should punish the socalled achievers. They are trickster thieves
> that have stole and cheated hard working honest people like me. Still
> denying my rights and freedom.
> Bring the war home
How much money should someone be allowed to make
before they're considered criminally successful and worthy
of punishment? A million dollars a year? A hundred thousand?
Twice as much as you do?
--
Walt
Werner
> "Werner" <whetz...@mac.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5f426019-f413-405c...@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 21, 2:27 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Werner" <whetz...@mac.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:94e47955-236a-4d88...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 21, 11:03 am, My China Blue Heaven <chine.b...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > ...
>
> > > > Neither corporations nor people should demand anything from anyone.
>
> > > Cool. Nobody can demand I obey the law. See. Want. Take.
>
> > > --
>
> > Resources of any kind are like fish in the common sea -
> > anyone who can will harvest to extinction. That is why capitalism is
> > fundamentally corrupting and can not work.
>
> ^ Well, wild salmon are getting scarcer and more expensive.
>
> So you agree that capitalism is fundamentally corrupting and cannot work
No. I meant that if you want to eat don't rely on common fish or
collective farms.
Firelock
wrote:
> In article <d0f8d04d-deb6-4f2b-bda4-bcd5ea6e4...@x20g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
Where it's me or, by natural logical extension,
my stuff involved, being myself is all that's required.
> Who are you to demand what my rights should be?
Your rights end where you start infringing on
the rights of others. My stuff is not covered
in any way, shape or form by your rights.
> Most importantly, in a libertarian society how are you going to a damn thing
> about it?
I don't need to do anything to protect myself or my
property from you, Blue - I know your type, you
aren't going to do anything yourself. The best
you can hope for is an opportunity to cheer while
some government functionaries take it, telling
yourself that they're doing it for you.
--
Walt
VFW
<51bae2f5-6752-4f6a...@s19g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>,
Firelock <firel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I'm sure we don't really choose the "leaders". there is a continuity
of "command" that only can be explained by organizations like the
Illuminati , you know world wide , like the Neo-Cons.
as for the O.P. Have you heard my rant about having compassion for the
rich? You just know they are suffering;
People hate them (prejudice)
The rich always have to question why "friends" hang around.
They also have to worry about people stealing their material crap.
They have to be concerned about people wanting to "borrow" money.
Every refuge has it's price.
--
money; what a concept!
Gandalf Grey
^ No. I meant that if you want to eat don't rely on common fish or
collective farms.
But that's not what the evidence demonstrates. The evidence demonstrates
that capitalism is fully as corrupt as any system out there.
Gandalf Grey
"Firelock" <firel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:048471d2-44de-4dab...@n13g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 19, 11:51 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "leonox1" <wsjames...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:dedd7068-8695-49d4...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 18, 7:48 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "Werner" <whetz...@mac.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:2b411742-bd1a-4a00...@t12g2000vbk.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 18, 2:30 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:>
> > Published
> > on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)
>
> > > Please: Won't you think about the feelings of the Wealthy?
>
> > ...
>
> > ^ The first point is that we have to recognize
>
> > That the GOP doesn't give one flipping shit about healthcare.
>
> ^ Don't disparage the Republicans too much. If it weren't for them,
>
> There'd be nothing really evil to fight against in this world. Yeah. I
> know. Fascism is a terrible thing and GOPs are wannabee fascists.
^ Awww, isn't Gandy cute
Sorry, Tirelock. I don't swing in your direction. Give Larry Craig a call.
Gandalf Grey
On Dec 20, 1:22 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> These GOP apologists don't have a clue as to how to run a business
^ Which is why you chose a bunch of leaders
Who aren't GOP apologists. That's right, Tirelock.
Firelock
> "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
However, you do swing in the direction of giving
people who lop off heads from journalists and limbs
from infants a pass, because they just aren't really
evil, they're not the villains your masters have told
you to hate. You're too easy, Gandy.
--
Walt
Firelock
> In article
> <51bae2f5-6752-4f6a-924c-b653bab19...@s19g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Firelock <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 20, 1:22 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > These GOP apologists don't have a clue as to how to run a business
>
> > Which is why you chose a bunch of leaders who've never even
> > run a corner candy store before, and gave them the whole
> > country to run?
>
> > --
> > Walt
>
> I'm sure we don't really choose the "leaders". there is a continuity
> of "command" that only can be explained by organizations like the
> Illuminati , you know world wide , like the Neo-Cons.
>
> as for the O.P. Have you heard my rant about having compassion for the
> rich? You just know they are suffering;
> People hate them (prejudice)
> The rich always have to question why "friends" hang around.
> They also have to worry about people stealing their material crap.
> They have to be concerned about people wanting to "borrow" money.
> Every refuge has it's price.
I think I'd like to try their "suffering", just for a little bit - you
know, so I can understand their side of things. ;-)
Of course, there are people who think of me as wealthy,
it's all a matter of perspective.
--
Walt
Firelock
> "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:51bae2f5-6752-4f6a...@s19g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 20, 1:22 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > These GOP apologists don't have a clue as to how to run a business
>
> ^ Which is why you chose a bunch of leaders
>
> Who aren't GOP apologists.
You think you know what they're not. Do you have any
clue what they *are*?
--
Walt
Gandalf Grey
On Dec 22, 12:58 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:048471d2-44de-4dab...@n13g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 19, 11:51 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "leonox1" <wsjames...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:dedd7068-8695-49d4...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 18, 7:48 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Werner" <whetz...@mac.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:2b411742-bd1a-4a00...@t12g2000vbk.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Dec 18, 2:30 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:>
> > > Published
> > > on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)
>
> > > > Please: Won't you think about the feelings of the Wealthy?
>
> > > ...
>
> > > ^ The first point is that we have to recognize
>
> > > That the GOP doesn't give one flipping shit about healthcare.
>
> > ^ Don't disparage the Republicans too much. If it weren't for them,
>
> > There'd be nothing really evil to fight against in this world. Yeah. I
> > know. Fascism is a terrible thing and GOPs are wannabee fascists.
>
> ^ Awww, isn't Gandy cute
>
> Sorry, Tirelock. I don't swing in your direction.
^ However, you do swing in the direction of
a nation of laws and morals that applies those laws and morals not just to
other nations, but to itself as well.
That's not something you'd ever understand, fascist boy.
Gandalf Grey
On Dec 22, 12:58 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:51bae2f5-6752-4f6a...@s19g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 20, 1:22 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > These GOP apologists don't have a clue as to how to run a business
>
> ^ Which is why you chose a bunch of leaders
>
> Who aren't GOP apologists.
^ You think you know what they're not.
No. I know what they're not because of the evidence that supports it. See,
TiredBlockhead, I don't get my truth from quasi religiofascist leaders like
you do. My truth isn't handed down to me by self-proclaimed authorities on
morality and truth. That's another thing you'll never understand.
Firelock
> fascist boy.
You've never understood what "fascist" meant, Gandy - nor
"neocon", nor any of the other noises your masters taught
you to bark at people who didn't grovel where you grovelled.
--
Walt
Firelock
> "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ebba6fc7-63e9-467a...@e20g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 22, 12:58 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:51bae2f5-6752-4f6a...@s19g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 20, 1:22 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > These GOP apologists don't have a clue as to how to run a business
>
> > ^ Which is why you chose a bunch of leaders
>
> > Who aren't GOP apologists.
>
> ^ You think you know what they're not.
>
> No. I know what they're not because of the evidence that supports it.
You're very interested in what they're not. You've no interest
in what they are. They've got you well and properly fooled,
don't they?
>See,
> TiredBlockhead, I don't get my truth from quasi religiofascist leaders like
> you do.
Project much, Gandy?
> My truth isn't handed down to me by self-proclaimed authorities on
> morality and truth.
You'd like to believe that. Your rantings don't support it, but
your feelings are what's important here, right?
> That's another thing you'll never understand.
You're nowhere near as complex as you'd like to be, Gandy.
--
Walt
Phlip
"neocon" means the same as "fascist" - an activist & expansionist who
allows big business to collude with government to exploit the people.
This is essentially Mussolini's original definition.
Gandalf Grey
"Gandalf Grey" <vali...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:nIednYC3ONPghazW...@giganews.com...
^ You've never understood what "fascist" meant, Gandy - nor
"neocon", nor any of the other noises your masters
Poor TiredBlock. You still don't get it. I don't have "masters," fascist
boy. That's YOUR problem.
Gandalf Grey
On Dec 22, 2:07 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ebba6fc7-63e9-467a...@e20g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 22, 12:58 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:51bae2f5-6752-4f6a...@s19g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 20, 1:22 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > These GOP apologists don't have a clue as to how to run a business
>
> > ^ Which is why you chose a bunch of leaders
>
> > Who aren't GOP apologists.
>
> ^ You think you know what they're not.
>
> No. I know what they're not because of the evidence that supports it.
^ You're very interested in what they're not.
Yep. I don't need the fascist leadership that your sad sick little mind
requires.
>See,
> TiredBlockhead, I don't get my truth from quasi religiofascist leaders
> like
> you do.
^ Project much, Gandy?
Oooh. TiredBlock googled a new word.
> My truth isn't handed down to me by self-proclaimed authorities on
> morality and truth.
^ You'd like to believe that.
Unlike you, I don't need to "believe" anything. I don't get my truth via
faith in fascist leaders, Tiredblock.
> That's another thing you'll never understand.
^ You're nowhere near as complex as you'd like to be, Gandy.
You're nowhere near as clever as you pretend you are, Walt.
Werner
Your Dear Leader Obama seems to be quite comfortable with crony
capitalism. Actually, it more closely resembles fascism.
Gandalf Grey
^ Your Dear Leader Obama seems to be quite comfortable with crony
capitalism. Actually, it more closely resembles fascism.
Anyone who can say that after watching the Bush era brand of disaster
capitalism is a fascist tool.
Phlip
> > We should punish the socalled achievers. They are trickster thieves
> > that have stole and cheated hard working honest people like me. Still
> > denying my rights and freedom.
> > Bring the war home
>
> How much money should someone be allowed to make
> before they're considered criminally successful and worthy
> of punishment? A million dollars a year? A hundred thousand?
> Twice as much as you do?
Depends how many people they kill to make it.
Firelock
> "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:nIednYC3ONPghazW...@giganews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
Whatever helps you sleep better at night, Gandy. Now
bark your favorite noise a little more, it looks so
cute on you!
--
Walt
Firelock
I don't agree, especially considering the neoconservative
interest in promoting what they saw as pro-democracy
movements worldwide. There's a nationalist, even imperialist
essence to Mussolini's fascism that was completely at odds
with such a concept. When someone is conflating
the neocon movement with fascism that's usually a sign
that they're effectively using both as content-free slurs.
--
Walt
Firelock
> In article <b4c1d19f-e962-4e24-bdc9-768610f2f...@g12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
> unachievable pipe dream.
You've got it backwards, Blue - what I realize is that, for
good or ill, *you* aren't going to take any actions
whatsoever that I have to worry about, so I don't have
to care what you demand.
--
Walt
Firelock
> "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ed6a769b-0cde-4680...@l2g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 22, 2:07 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:ebba6fc7-63e9-467a...@e20g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 22, 12:58 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:51bae2f5-6752-4f6a...@s19g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Dec 20, 1:22 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > These GOP apologists don't have a clue as to how to run a business
>
> > > ^ Which is why you chose a bunch of leaders
>
> > > Who aren't GOP apologists.
>
> > ^ You think you know what they're not.
>
> > No. I know what they're not because of the evidence that supports it.
>
> ^ You're very interested in what they're not.
>
> Yep. I don't need the fascist leadership that your sad sick little mind
> requires.
You go on and on about what you've been told they're
not - and won't ever put forth a thing about what you
think they *are*. All you can do is howl your favorite
noise when someone points out that all you know
about your heroes is what they've told you they're not.
You're a very useful tool, Gandy.
--
Walt
Firelock
There's seldom that much thought behind an "eat
the rich" stance. Consider that simply by being
literate and having access to a computer that's on
the Internet we are wealthier than the vast majority
of the planet's inhabitants. Anyone presenting an
"eat the rich" philosophy here had best beware the
gnawing of little teeth, as there are vast multitudes
that would find them tasty.
--
Walt
Hiccum Blurpaedius
> On Dec 19, 3:04 pm, Hiccum Blurpaedius <hic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 19, 12:00 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > "ma...@merde.com" <foster...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:3afa2ef9-6fde-4d91...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Dec 18, 2:30 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Remember when the poor selfishly caused the housing market to collapse by
> > > > tricking mortgage companies? The wealthy were at risk of having their
> > > > incomes limited, sometimes to a mere $500000 a year! Heinous!
>
> > > ^ So are we to punish the achievers
>
> > > No, just the gougers and price sharks while watching libertarian morons like
> > > you scream about the mythical 'free market.'
>
> > We should punish the socalled achievers. They are trickster thieves
> > that have stole and cheated hard working honest people like me. Still
> > denying my rights and freedom.
> > Bring the war home
>
> How much money should someone be allowed to make
> before they're considered criminally successful and worthy
> of punishment? A million dollars a year? A hundred thousand?
> Twice as much as you do?
>
> Walt
Any money they make without my freedom being enforced. As long as I
remain in bondage their wealth deserves to be destroyed. Freedom for
all or death.
As of today I am being punished for crimes committed against me.
Exterminate god god dammit
Hiccum Blurpaedius
God damned frauds claiming they are hallucinating god.
Exterminate god god dammit
Hiccum Blurpaedius
Anybody that profits off my lack of life liberty and pursuit of
hapiness deserves to be destroyed and have their possesions
confiscated.
Exterminate god god dammit
Gandalf Grey
^ Whatever helps you sleep better at night,
Inability to respond with anything meaningful noted.
Gandalf Grey
On Dec 22, 2:40 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ed6a769b-0cde-4680...@l2g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 22, 2:07 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:ebba6fc7-63e9-467a...@e20g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 22, 12:58 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:51bae2f5-6752-4f6a...@s19g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Dec 20, 1:22 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > These GOP apologists don't have a clue as to how to run a business
>
> > > ^ Which is why you chose a bunch of leaders
>
> > > Who aren't GOP apologists.
>
> > ^ You think you know what they're not.
>
> > No. I know what they're not because of the evidence that supports it.
>
> ^ You're very interested in what they're not.
>
> Yep. I don't need the fascist leadership that your sad sick little mind
> requires.
^ You go on and on about what you've been told they're
not
No. I go on about what I KNOW they're not. Unlike you, I don't have to
operate on blind animal faith.
Firelock
I'm responding appropriately for my audience, Gandy.
Monkeys only get Shakespeare read to them if the
reader really, really likes to hear himself read
Shakespeare.
--
Walt
Firelock
> "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:de5a5f06-1f31-40c5...@z40g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 22, 2:40 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >news:ed6a769b-0cde-4680...@l2g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 22, 2:07 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > >news:ebba6fc7-63e9-467a...@e20g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Dec 22, 12:58 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > >news:51bae2f5-6752-4f6a...@s19g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On Dec 20, 1:22 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > These GOP apologists don't have a clue as to how to run a business
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> > > > ^ Which is why you chose a bunch of leaders
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> > > > Who aren't GOP apologists.
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> > > ^ You think you know what they're not.
>
> > > No. I know what they're not because of the evidence that supports it.
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> > ^ You're very interested in what they're not.
>
> > Yep. I don't need the fascist leadership that your sad sick little mind
> > requires.
>
> ^ You go on and on about what you've been told they're
> not
>
> No. I go on about what I KNOW they're not.
Yes, that's my point - all you have is an idea that
they're NOT something. You don't seem to care
at all what they actually ARE, and that fact
doesn't seem the least bit odd to you.
--
Walt
Firelock
> On Dec 22, 9:16 am, Firelock <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Dec 19, 3:04 pm, Hiccum Blurpaedius <hic...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Dec 19, 12:00 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > "ma...@merde.com" <foster...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > >news:3afa2ef9-6fde-4d91...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On Dec 18, 2:30 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > Remember when the poor selfishly caused the housing market to collapse by
> > > > > tricking mortgage companies? The wealthy were at risk of having their
> > > > > incomes limited, sometimes to a mere $500000 a year! Heinous!
>
> > > > ^ So are we to punish the achievers
>
> > > > No, just the gougers and price sharks while watching libertarian morons like
> > > > you scream about the mythical 'free market.'
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> > > We should punish the socalled achievers. They are trickster thieves
> > > that have stole and cheated hard working honest people like me. Still
> > > denying my rights and freedom.
> > > Bring the war home
>
> > How much money should someone be allowed to make
> > before they're considered criminally successful and worthy
> > of punishment? A million dollars a year? A hundred thousand?
> > Twice as much as you do?
>
> remain in bondage their wealth deserves to be destroyed.
What sort of bondage are you in, Hiccum? The
"bondage" of not being as successful as some
other people, or do you have something else in mind?
> Freedom for all or death.
You're welcome to start the dying with yourself. Other
people, not so much.
--
Walt
Gandalf Grey
^ I'm responding
with nothing, blockhead. Typical and expected.
Gandalf Grey
On Dec 23, 12:17 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:de5a5f06-1f31-40c5...@z40g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 22, 2:40 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >news:ed6a769b-0cde-4680...@l2g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 22, 2:07 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:ebba6fc7-63e9-467a...@e20g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Dec 22, 12:58 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "Firelock" <firelock...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:51bae2f5-6752-4f6a...@s19g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On Dec 20, 1:22 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > These GOP apologists don't have a clue as to how to run a business
>
> > > > ^ Which is why you chose a bunch of leaders
>
> > > > Who aren't GOP apologists.
>
> > > ^ You think you know what they're not.
>
> > > No. I know what they're not because of the evidence that supports it.
>
> > ^ You're very interested in what they're not.
>
> > Yep. I don't need the fascist leadership that your sad sick little mind
> > requires.
>
> ^ You go on and on about what you've been told they're
> not
>
> No. I go on about what I KNOW they're not.
^ Yes, that's my point
You don't have a point, Walt.