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Roedy Green

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Feb 24, 2005, 12:43:42 AM2/24/05
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see http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1029856-3,00.html

Nothing you have not heard before, but just to let you know the power
of writing to newspapers and magazines gets you heard more widely.


"Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor
of Hitler nor of Mussolini."
~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
on Bush's genocide in the Iraq war. 2004-11-28
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush's war crimes

~z~

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Feb 24, 2005, 1:32:04 AM2/24/05
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"Roedy Green" <loo...@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote in message
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Not bad, but as long as you were going to get the nod, couldn't you have at
least said something like Bush is a cocaine-snorting bum?


North American

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Feb 24, 2005, 1:58:02 AM2/24/05
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"Roedy Green" <loo...@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote in message
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Good call Roedy.


Roedy Green

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Feb 24, 2005, 2:32:52 AM2/24/05
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:32:04 -0800, "~z~" <z...@hotmail.com> wrote or
quoted :

>Not bad, but as long as you were going to get the nod, couldn't you have at
>least said something like Bush is a cocaine-snorting bum?

Try it. let...@time.com

The Pretzel

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Feb 24, 2005, 3:39:29 AM2/24/05
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"Roedy Green" <loo...@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> see http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1029856-3,00.html
>
> Nothing you have not heard before, but just to let you know the power
> of writing to newspapers and magazines gets you heard more widely.
>
congrats!

archie kennedy

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Feb 24, 2005, 12:25:35 PM2/24/05
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"Roedy Green" <loo...@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> see http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1029856-3,00.html
>
> Nothing you have not heard before, but just to let you know the power
> of writing to newspapers and magazines gets you heard more widely.

Roedy - you are a tireless warrior. There is no doubt that you are making a
difference. You ruin their bloodlust and killing on them. Hats off to you.
>Archie

Roedy Green

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Feb 24, 2005, 2:05:11 PM2/24/05
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:25:35 GMT, "archie kennedy"
<arc...@sympatico.ns.ca> wrote or quoted :

>Roedy - you are a tireless warrior. There is no doubt that you are making a
>difference. You ruin their bloodlust and killing on them. Hats off to you.

As I have pointed out many times, back in 1969 I single-handedly
started gay lib in Western Canada, with the strong belief it was
utterly futile since everyone, including the gays were opposed. I knew
of no other gays in Canada who were out publicly, though years later I
discovered there were some. I just could not stand being silent
listening to so many lies about gays being passed around daily. I also
found out that I was almost kicked out of university for my book A
Guide For the Naive Homosexual. To my utter astonishment, within a
few years we had the first gay rights legislation and the public
turned around 180 degrees in tolerance. Now Canada is about to enact
gay marriage.

I have no way of measuring just how much of all that as my doing. I
like to imagine I was a sort of Forrest Gump, noticing the people at
the Watergate with flashlights, being the nail on the horseshoe.

That experience is the primary thing that drives me to keep plugging
against the Bush crime family no matter how futile things look.

Gandhi is my other "keep plugging" inspiration. I have collected all
kinds of quotations of his at http://mindprod.com/gandhi.html

Some of my favourites are:

"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth
and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for
a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall - think
of it, always."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

"It's the action, not the fruit of the action, that's important. You
have to do the right thing. It may not be in your power, may not be in
your time, that there'll be any fruit. But that doesn't mean you stop
doing the right thing. You may never know what results come from your
action. But if you do nothing, there will be no result."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

"Before you do anything, stop and recall the face of the poorest most
helpless destitute person you have seen and ask yourself, 'Is what I
am about to do going to help him?'"
~ Mahatma Gandhi

"A small body of determined spirits fired by an unquenchable faith in
their mission can alter the course of history."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

"Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that
you do it."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

"Glory lies in the attempt to reach one's goal and not in reaching
it."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

"We must become the change we want to see in the world."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

"Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

J Smith

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Feb 24, 2005, 2:11:52 PM2/24/05
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 05:43:42 GMT, Roedy Green
<loo...@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote:

>see http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1029856-3,00.html
>
>Nothing you have not heard before, but just to let you know the power
>of writing to newspapers and magazines gets you heard more widely.


Heard? You are part of the herd boy.

And gee, time mag. What a fab rag.

J Smith

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Feb 24, 2005, 2:15:15 PM2/24/05
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:25:35 GMT, "archie kennedy"
<arc...@sympatico.ns.ca> wrote:

>
>"Roedy Green" <loo...@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:0bqq11tvidlshsb78...@4ax.com...
>> see http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1029856-3,00.html
>>
>> Nothing you have not heard before, but just to let you know the power
>> of writing to newspapers and magazines gets you heard more widely.
>
>Roedy - you are a tireless warrior. There is no doubt that you are making a
>difference. You ruin their bloodlust and killing on them. Hats off to you.
> >Archie
>>

You are a funny goy duharchy. but not in an amusing way.

One one hand, the one not wrapped around your weasel or yet another
Keiths, you damn the warriors who keep us safe and with your other
greasy mitt you waggle it for the likes of redgreen. Which is it boy?
Do you love or hate warriors? Only as long as they are anti-american
slobs like you.

Now go out and play. there is a wal-mart that needs a gawping yob with
a picket sign protesting low prices marching out front.

J Smith

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Feb 24, 2005, 2:20:20 PM2/24/05
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Coke goes in the nose, not ass. No wonder your ass looks like a
baby's.

J Smith

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Feb 24, 2005, 3:47:27 PM2/24/05
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:05:11 GMT, Roedy Green
<loo...@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:25:35 GMT, "archie kennedy"
><arc...@sympatico.ns.ca> wrote or quoted :
>
>>Roedy - you are a tireless warrior. There is no doubt that you are making a
>>difference. You ruin their bloodlust and killing on them. Hats off to you.
>
>As I have pointed out many times, back in 1969 I single-handedly
>started gay lib in Western Canada,

You are King of the Queers red. Take a bow. And please, don't let your
inherent modesty stay closeted, let us all know, day after day after
day with endless crapola crap postings how your scribbles, struggles
and anti-americanism is going to make the world a better place.

Are you married yet? Despite what you may read into the first line, I
could care less if you have a civil union and find a church or
whatever to marry you and your best buddy. I will insult you endlessly
but your shape, size and volume is of no concern of mine.

Julian D.

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Feb 24, 2005, 5:17:27 PM2/24/05
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 05:43:42 GMT, Roedy Green
<loo...@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote:

>see http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1029856-3,00.html
>
>Nothing you have not heard before, but just to let you know the power
>of writing to newspapers and magazines gets you heard more widely.

Your letter sounds like the typical nutty poster to
democratunderground.

>
>"Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
> Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor
> of Hitler nor of Mussolini."
>~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
> on Bush's genocide in the Iraq war. 2004-11-28


JD

"On the other hand, I think sometimes I take kind of a delight
in who the critics are."
-President George W. Bush
Time's Person Of The Year
2004

"The course of this nation does not depend on the decisions of
others."
-President George W. Bush
SOA
2003

"... by 2013, payroll taxes will no longer
be sufficient to cover monthly payments. And by 2032, the
trust fund will be exhausted, and Social Security will be
unable to pay out the full benefits older Americans have
been promised."

Bill Clinton
1998 State of the Union

Julian D.

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Feb 24, 2005, 5:19:33 PM2/24/05
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 19:05:11 GMT, Roedy Green
<loo...@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:25:35 GMT, "archie kennedy"
><arc...@sympatico.ns.ca> wrote or quoted :
>
>>Roedy - you are a tireless warrior. There is no doubt that you are making a
>>difference. You ruin their bloodlust and killing on them. Hats off to you.
>
>As I have pointed out many times, back in 1969 I single-handedly
>started gay lib in Western Canada,

Which helped contribute to Aids less than 15 years later.
Congrats.

Roedy Green

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Feb 24, 2005, 8:46:11 PM2/24/05
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:19:33 -0500, Julian D. <ju...@ersatz.com> wrote
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>Which helped contribute to Aids less than 15 years later.
>Congrats.

You got in backwards. I helped people accept themselves and live
openly and form monogamous couples.

All the extreme secrecy prior to 1969 would have made it impossible to
trace AIDS infections. All that hiding causes anonymous sex which
causes promiscuity.

HIV is a disease. It should be treated like any other infectious
disease. Your religious superstition just gets in the way.


"Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor
of Hitler nor of Mussolini."
~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
on Bush's genocide in the Iraq war. 2004-11-28

Roedy Green

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Feb 24, 2005, 8:51:14 PM2/24/05
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:17:27 -0500, Julian D. <ju...@ersatz.com> wrote
or quoted :

>Your letter sounds like the typical nutty poster to
>democratunderground.

It was Time magazine as in AOL/Time/Warner, you know Colin Powell's
company.


"Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor
of Hitler nor of Mussolini."
~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
on Bush's genocide in the Iraq war. 2004-11-28

~z~

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Feb 24, 2005, 8:51:34 PM2/24/05
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"Julian D." <ju...@ersatz.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 05:43:42 GMT, Roedy Green
> <loo...@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>see http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1029856-3,00.html
>>
>>Nothing you have not heard before, but just to let you know the power
>>of writing to newspapers and magazines gets you heard more widely.
>
> Your letter sounds like the typical nutty poster to
> democratunderground.
>

Just like regular people, huh. Same concerns....I'll bet Roedy is the first
gay guy you've ever talked to.....why don't you take advantage of the
opportunity and ask him questions--respectful, i.e., Some churches have
programs to change gays back to heterosexuals-- what do you think of such
efforts?

or:

Have you ever be assaulted for being gay?


Roedy Green

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Feb 24, 2005, 9:50:12 PM2/24/05
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:51:34 -0800, "~z~" <z...@hotmail.com> wrote or
quoted :

>Some churches have

>programs to change gays back to heterosexuals-- what do you think of such
>efforts?

It is a fraud perpetuated as an excuse to discriminate against gays.
It read four books on the subject given me by an evangelist minister
Terry Winters. What they do is get the guy to marry a woman then
white knuckle avoiding sex with men. If he cuts his "backsliding"
down he is declared "cured".

But there is ZERO change to his sexual orientation. All they can go
is guilt trip the guy into reducing his gay sex. More than ever he
thinks about sex with guys.

It creates a nightmare both for the guy and for the poor woman roped
into this marriage. She feels demeaned since he clearly find men more
appealing than her.

It is unnatural and can't last. It like convincing a guy that only sex
with pigs is virtuous, and seeing how long he can go with only that.

You are much better off to help the guy accept himself and find a
stable relationship with some one he CAN love without gritting his
teeth. A gay relationship hurts no one and is nourishing for the two
involved. It is crazy the way people find gay monogamous relationships
more threatening than murder, child torture or child rape.

There are some bisexuals for whom this is not quite so nightmarish.
They pretty well have to decide one way or the other if they prefer
monogamy. But again there is no change is sexual orientation.


"Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor
of Hitler nor of Mussolini."
~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
on Bush's genocide in the Iraq war. 2004-11-28

torresD

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Feb 27, 2005, 10:18:55 PM2/27/05
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Congratulations, Roedy.
You certainly do an outstanding job in informing the public,
about what is really going on in Iraq.

Julian D.

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Feb 28, 2005, 12:21:28 AM2/28/05
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 03:18:55 GMT, "torresD" <torr...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Congratulations, Roedy.
>You certainly do an outstanding job in informing the public,
>about what is really going on in Iraq.
>
>

And you must be a moron torres. Roedy is a conspiracy nutjob. Do you
actually believe his claim that Bush had the troops make pedophile
videotapes of Iraqi children being abused?


JD


~ The RAMADI RAZORBACKS ~

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Feb 28, 2005, 12:25:34 AM2/28/05
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-

Do you really believe Bush's claim that Saddam had WMDs?

Roedy Green

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Feb 28, 2005, 1:59:50 AM2/28/05
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:21:28 -0500, Julian D. <ju...@ersatz.com> wrote
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>And you must be a moron torres. Roedy is a conspiracy nutjob. Do you


>actually believe his claim that Bush had the troops make pedophile
>videotapes of Iraqi children being abused?

Why not?

It is just a tiny step away from his crimes I believe you do
acknowledge:

1. sexual abuse of prisoners

2. child prisoners

3. anal rape of male teen prisoners

But consider who is making the accusation, one of the top three
journalists in America, a Pulitzer prize winner. Seymour Hersh is up
there with Bernstein and Woodward. He is the guy who broke the Mai Lai
massacre story much as no one wanted to believe it. He broke the Abu
Ghraib story no matter how crazy it sounded. It is the New Yorker, not
some tabloid.

You have no reason at all to doubt him. The only reason you do is
because you would strongly like it if it were NOT true. That's it. You
have no other reason. Everything about Bush points to it being true.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040717-082858-3675r.htm

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