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MUSLIMS In OUR MIDST! They're Being Sent To The U.S. By Al-Qaeda, And They're Out To Suicide-Bomb and Shoot Americans!

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Allah'sFetidAss

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Nov 9, 2009, 11:01:55 AM11/9/09
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Fort Hood?

Just the beginning.

Wait until 30 or 50 innocent true-humans are blown-up on a New York
City street!

As Islam becomes ever more evil, crazed -- and determined to destroy
we infidels.

If the FBI and the CIA were competent (recall they failed Americans on
9/11), those federal country clubs could be counted on to detect and
deter the terrorist plans that are doubtless in the works.

But no.

So look out!
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"In Turkey, fertile ground for creationism"

"U.S. critics of evolution help translate their ideas for a society
already torn between Islam and secularism"

By Marc Kaufman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, November 8, 2009

ISTANBUL -- Sema Ergezen teaches biology to Turkish students
interested in teaching science themselves, and she has long struggled
with her students' ignorance of, and sometimes hostility to, the
notion of evolution.

But she was taken aback when several of her Marmara University
students recently accused her of being an atheist, or worse, for
teaching anything but the doctrine that God created the Earth and
everything on it.

"They said I was a liar if I called myself a Muslim because I also
accepted evolution," she said.

What especially disturbed -- and amused -- the veteran professor was
that the arguments for creationism presented by some of the students
came directly from the country where she was educated in the
biological sciences years before -- the United States. Translated and
adapted for a Muslim society, the purported proofs that Darwinism and
evolution were wrong came directly from American proponents of
Christian creationism and its less overtly religious offshoot,
intelligent design.

Ergezen's experience has become increasingly common. While creationism
and intelligent design appear to be in some retreat in the United
States, they have blossomed within Muslim Turkey. With direct and
indirect help from American foes of evolution, similarly-minded Turks
have aggressively made the case that Charles Darwin's theory is
scientifically wrong and is the underlying source of most of the
world's conflicts because it excludes God from human affairs.

"Darwin is the worst Fascist there has ever been, and the worst racist
history has ever witnessed," writes Harun Yahya, the most assertive
and best-known critic of evolution in Turkey, and long a favorite of
more conservative American creationists.

The evolution-creationism battle is playing out against a backdrop of
a much larger conflict between the forces of secularism -- as
represented by the Turkish military and many of the country's more
educated citizens -- and forces, including the popular ruling party,
that want to make religion more important in national affairs. The
Islamic anti-evolution campaign is taking place in Turkey, and not
Egypt or Saudi Arabia, because it is the Muslim nation where evolution
has been taken most seriously. Like the Bible, the Koran says that God
created the Earth and everything on it, and in many Muslim nations
that ends the discussion.

But Turkey, which is officially secular, appears to be joining its
Muslim neighbors on evolution. A recent survey, quoted in a 2008
article in the American journal Science, found that fewer than 25
percent of Turks accepted evolution as an explanation of how modern
life came to be -- by far the lowest percentage of any developed
nation. In a year in which conferences worldwide are celebrating the
200th anniversary of Darwin's birth and his contribution to science,
the battle against Darwinian thinking in Turkey has become something
of a rout, even among aspiring science teachers.

To many Turkish scientists and educators, this is a worrisome
development. The founder of modern Turkey, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, was
an advocate of science, education and, some say, even evolution.
Turkish science has been especially strong in the Muslim world. If
Turks close their minds to evolutionary thinking, advocates say, it
won't be long before religion and politics shut off other scientific
pursuits.

To John Morris, president of the Institute for Creation Research in
Dallas, however, the news could hardly be more encouraging.

"Why I'm so interested in seeing creationism succeed in Turkey is that
evolution is an evil concept that has done such damage to society,"
said Morris, a Christian who has led several searches for Noah's Ark
in eastern Turkey. Members of his group have addressed Turkish
conferences numerous times.

The Discovery Institute of Seattle, which researches and promotes
intelligent design as an alternative to creationism and evolution,
also sent speakers to Turkey after being invited by the Istanbul
municipal government in 2007. President Bruce Chapman said the
institute helped bring Turkish evolution critic Mustafa Akyol to a
2005 Kansas school board hearing on teaching critiques of evolution.

The most visible Turkish proponent of creationism is a former
journalist named Adnan Oktar, who writes and appears daily on his own
two-hour television show under the alias Harun Yahya. He and a
revolving group of about 30 writers and young scientists have produced
more than 200 widely distributed books and videos attacking evolution
as equivalent to atheism, communism and worse.

In 2006, Oktar created an international stir when he sent a book of
high-quality fossil images to biology teachers worldwide. Published on
almost 800 pages of glossy stock, the "Atlas of Creation" sets out to
show that creatures today are essentially the same as those that
lived, and became fossilized, eons ago -- an argument also found in
American creationism. The source of funding for the book, which
emphasizes North American fossil finds, remains murky.

Speaking in his home and television studio overlooking the Bosporus,
Oktar asserted responsibility for "defeating" Darwinism in Turkey and
said that Americans had helped him do it. But as he sees it, the
student has become the teacher. He has created a far-reaching anti-
evolution empire, he said, while American creationists and advocates
of intelligent design still struggle to be heard.

The 53-year-old Oktar, dressed entirely in white, said he is not a
scientist but an author "following the path of Allah." He said that by
aggressively attacking evolution, he has drawn persecution in the form
of lawsuits, legal cases and police torture. He is awaiting a ruling
on an appeal of his conviction last year on charges that his group --
which some in Turkey liken to a cult -- had become a criminal,
moneymaking enterprise.

Being an advocate for evolution in Turkey has its costs, too. Aykut
Kence, who earned his doctorate in evolutionary biology in the United
States and now teaches at an Ankara university, has fought back-and-
forth lawsuits with Oktar for years. He began to take the creationists
seriously when they circulated leaflets with pictures of him and Mao
Zedong, publicly equating Kence's teaching of evolution to communism.
His defense of evolution, he said, has cost him government funding.

After a decade in the trenches, Kence said he believes aggressive
creationism "is part of a larger plan to convert people to a more
conservative Islam."

The Islamic-oriented government, elected in 2002 and reelected in
2007, has telegraphed its views on evolution by adding doses of
creationism to a required public school course on "Religion and
Morals," proponents of evolution say. This year, the editor of one of
the nation's prominent science journals, Science and Technology, was
fired by government officials over her magazine's plans to put Darwin
on its cover.

Some argue, however, that it is too early to write off Turkish science
as being under the thumb of religion. Salman Hameed, a professor of
science and humanities at Hampshire College in Massachusetts and
author of the 2008 Science article titled "Bracing for Islamic
Creationism," said secular forces remain strong in Turkey, which is
seeking membership in the European Union.

"I think it will be five to 10 years before Turks as a whole make up
their mind," he said. "The situation is quite worrisome, and that's
why I wrote the article. But I believe the issue is not settled at
this point."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/07/AR2009110702233.html


Larry

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:24:43 PM11/9/09
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"Allah'sFetidAss" <lilh...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:d3b31f23-3f44-
40e3-9eae-8...@f10g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:

> Fort Hood?
>
> Just the beginning.
>
>

It's more of a "continuance".....

To prevent Japanese sabotage in World War II, America sequestered its
Japanese population in a very successful campaign that stopped Japanese
sabotage in its tracks, no matter what the PC Americans thought 30+
years later. The program was very efficient and successful. Of course,
to accomplish this, many innocents were also rounded up and sequestered
with their saboteurs and provocateurs buried in the sequestered
population.

It wasn't pretty, but was very effective.

Unless a similar program is implemented for current imbedded saboteurs
and provacateurs in the current population, murders of Americans on our
own soil will continue as there is no other way of stopping it.

We've simply got to stop IMPORTING potential trouble by isolating and
insulating ourselves from the threatening populations....then, give the
already imbedded potentially threatening population a choice to leave,
at our expense, or be sequestered, a choice the Japanese internees
weren't given because it would have swelled the ranks of the Japanese
military once they got home.....

No martyrs are created by this action as internment is not genocide. We
didn't mass murder the Japanese interned, as many GIs coming home from
the Pacific islands would have preferred.

American isolationism before WW2 served this country very well for
hundreds of years. They had to force war upon us as we refused to
participate until directly attacked....even if our own government
provoked the attack, which is another story in itself.

--
Larry

Al Nakba

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:43:43 PM11/9/09
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> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/07/AR200...

deport, detain, and if necessary, defenestrate..

John Fartlington Poopnagel

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Nov 9, 2009, 5:02:12 PM11/9/09
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"Radical imam praises alleged Fort Hood shooter"

By PAMELA HESS and EILEEN SULLIVAN, Associated Press Writers Pamela
Hess And Eileen Sullivan, Associated Press Writers 43 mins ago

WASHINGTON – A radical American imam on Yemen's most wanted militant
list who had contact with two 9/11 hijackers praised alleged Fort Hood
shooter Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan as a hero on his personal Web site
Monday.

The posting on the Web site for Anwar al Awlaki, who was a spiritual
leader at two mosques where three 9/11 hijackers worshipped, said
American Muslims who condemned the attacks on the Texas military base
last week are hypocrites who have committed treason against their
religion.

Awlaki said the only way a Muslim can justify serving in the U.S.
military is if he intends to "follow in the footsteps of men like
Nidal."

"Nidal Hassan (sic) is a hero. He is a man of conscience who could not
bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army
that is fighting against his own people," Awlaki wrote.

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, is accused of killing 13
and wounding 29 in a shooting spree Thursday. Hasan's family attended
the Dar al Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church, Va., where Awlaki
was preaching in 2001.

Hasan's mother's funeral was held at the Falls Church mosque on May
31, 2001, according to her obituary in the Roanoke Times newspaper,
around the same time two 9/11 hijackers worshipped at the mosque and
while Awlaki was preaching.

Awlaki is a native-born U.S. citizen who left the United States in
2002, eventually traveling to Yemen. He was released from a Yemeni
jail last year and has since gone missing. He is on Yemen's most
wanted militant list, according to three Yemeni security officials.

The officials say Awlaki was arrested in 2006 with a small group of
suspected al-Qaida militants in the capital San'a. They say he was
released more than a year later after signing a pledge he will not
break the law or leave the country. The officials spoke on condition
of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

A former senior U.S. intelligence official said Awlaki is well known
in the intelligence community.

The Homeland Security Department's intelligence division became
concerned about Awlaki late last year when he published a new group of
violent lectures targeting U.S. audiences, according to a Jan. 22,
2009 intelligence note.

On Dec. 23, 2008, Awlaki, on his Web site, encouraged Muslims across
the world to kill U.S. troops in Iraq. Awlaki also used these postings
to declare his support for the Somali terrorist group, al-Shabaab,
according to the Homeland Security intelligence note, obtained by The
Associated Press.

In December of last year, Customs officials intercepted a flash drive
of Awlaki's lectures that his wife sent from Yemen to an Islamic
publishing house in Denver, the intelligence note said.

Awlaki told the FBI in 2001 that, before he moved to Virginia in early
2001, he met with 9/11 hijacker Nawaf al-Hazmi several times in San
Diego. Al-Hazmi was at the time living with Khalid al-Mihdhar, another
hijacker. Al-Hazmi and another hijacker, Hani Hanjour, attended the
Dar al Hijrah mosque in Virginia in early April 2001.

In his FBI interview, Awlaki denied ever meeting with al-Hazmi and
Hanjour while in Virginia.

He was investigated by the FBI in 1999 and 2000 after it was learned
that he may have been contacted by a possible procurement agent for
Osama bin Laden. During this investigation, the FBI learned that
Awlaki knew people involved in raising money for Hamas, a Palestinian
group on the U.S. State Department's terrorist list.

Imam Johari Abdul-Malik, outreach director at Dar al Hijrah, said he
did not know whether Hasan ever attended the mosque but confirmed that
the Hasan family participated in services there. Abdul-Malik said the
Hasans were not leaders at the mosque and their attendance was normal.

The Falls Church mosque is one of the largest on the East Coast, and
thousands of worshippers attend prayers and services there every week.
Abdul-Malik said it's a mistake for people to conflate regular
attendance at a mosque with extremism.

Many Muslims pray at the mosque multiple times a day, he said. "It's
part of family life. It's like going out for ice cream after dinner."

Faizul Khan, former imam of the Muslim Community Center in nearby
Silver Spring, Md., where Hasan also worshipped, said he was not aware
that Hasan had attended services at Dar al Hijrah but said it would
not be unusual for Hasan to attend more than one mosque concurrently.

Khan said he did not recall Hasan mentioning having been taught or
preached to by Awlaki.

The London Telegraph first reported the potential link between Hasan
and the mosque.

Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey said Sunday it's important for
the country not to get caught up in speculation about Hasan's Muslim
faith, and he has instructed his commanders to be on the lookout for
anti-Muslim reaction to the killings at the Texas post.

Casey said evidence to this point shows that Hasan acted alone. He
toured Fort Hood on Friday with Army Secretary John McHugh. Casey
appeared on ABC's "This Week" and CNN's "State of the Union."

Separately, the CIA denied an ABC News report saying that the agency
has refused to brief Congress on the case.

"This is a law enforcement investigation, in which other agencies, not
the CIA, have the lead. Any suggestion that the CIA refused to brief
Congress is flat wrong," said George Little, CIA spokesman.

Associated Press Writers Ben Nuckols, Devlin Barrett and Matthew
Barakat contributed to this story. AP reporter Ahmed al-Haj
contributed from San-a, Yamen.

__

On the Net:

Dar al Hijrah Islamic Center: http://www.daralhijrah.net/

Anwar al Awlaki: http://www.anwar-alawlaki.com

Allah'sFetidAss

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:13:11 PM11/10/09
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Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey used to be the top U.S. military
guy in Iraq, but he was booted upstairs to his present job because he
couldn't do the job in Iraq! He still sounds slow-witted.

But this is how the Army does things with general officers.

Either promote the duds, or pressure 'em to retire, like Eric
Shinseki, former Army CofS, now head of the VA. Recall he told Rummy
in 2001 it would take at least 300,000 U.S. troops to pacify Iraq, and
the Bushies "asked" him to retire.

Then the U.S. invaded and destroyed Iraq, in which we're trapped,
short of an outright admission of defeat! Or a military "reverse D-
Day," in which our troops charge the hell away under cover of
darkness.

Of course, Shinseki's assessment proved correct and Rumsfeld, Bush,
Cheney, Rice and our other war criminals are hunkering down in
"retirement," hoping to avoid an indictment from some court.

stmarysbloodycunthole

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W BUSH TRAINED TERRORISTS AS THIS GUY JOINED UNDER W BUSH, BUSH IS A
TERRORIST

suckTHESE

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"Failing the troops at Fort Hood"

By Eugene Robinson
Op-Ed
Tuesday, November 10, 2009

There's a difference between sensitivity and stupidity. If there were
indeed signs that Maj. Nidal Hasan, the alleged Fort Hood mass
murderer, was becoming radicalized in his opposition to the U.S. wars
in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Army had a duty to act -- before he did.

Gen. George Casey, the Army chief of staff, said Sunday that he was
concerned "this increased speculation" about Hasan's evolving
political and religious views "could cause a backlash against some of
our Muslim soldiers." Casey is right to worry about the lunatics and
bigots who now will think of all Muslims in the military as potential
enemies. But it only feeds such paranoia to ignore alarm bells that an
unstable individual, Muslim or not, is about to blow.

According to published reports, Hasan told people of his serious
doubts about the U.S. military campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Hasan, a psychiatrist who had evaluated returning soldiers for stress-
related disorders, made no secret of his reluctance to serve in the
Afghan theater, where he was to be sent within weeks. According to ABC
News, fellow Army doctors told superiors of their concern that Hasan
felt divided allegiance -- both to the Muslims whom he felt were under
attack and the country he had volunteered to serve.

All this should have been enough to prompt an urgent intervention by
Army brass, regardless of Hasan's religion. That it did not is unfair
to the thousands of Muslims who have served in the military, and
continue to do so, with honor and distinction.

"The system is not doing what it's supposed to do," Army doctor Val
Finnell told the Associated Press. Finnell, who studied with Hasan,
complained to higher-ups about Hasan's "anti-American" rants and his
stated view that the United States was conducting a war against Islam.
"He at least should have been confronted about these beliefs, told to
cease and desist, and to shape up or ship out."

Indeed he should have been. In the Army, there's a rich tradition of
grousing about idiotic higher-ups and their ridiculous orders. But it
sounds as if Hasan's complaints went far beyond the ordinary,
especially in the notion that he might be unsure of his loyalty and
duty.

If Hasan's superior officers had investigated, they might have pieced
together the story that seems to be emerging: that Hasan was behaving
erratically, that his faith apparently had become increasingly
political, that he desperately wanted out of the military and that he
was distraught about being ordered to the war zone.

Army officials surely were aware that Muslims in the service have
complained of taunts and harassment from their fellow soldiers. For
moral and practical reasons, the Army must eliminate such
discrimination. I've had issues with the way former president George
W. Bush did his job, to say the least, but one good thing he did was
emphasize that his "war on terrorism" was not a war against Islam, one
of the world's great faiths. That disclaimer rings hollow if Muslims
serving in the armed forces are blamed for the crimes of Islamic
terrorists and treated as potential traitors to the American cause.

But fairness is one thing, foolishness another. Any soldier who seemed
as if he might be falling apart -- and it seems that Hasan gave a lot
of people that impression -- should have been given more scrutiny. In
Hasan's case, a closer look would have revealed his growing
religiosity and his feeling that his faith was under assault. That
Hasan had worshiped at a Virginia mosque whose spiritual leader was a
radical named Anwar al-Aulaqi might also have come to light. The Post
reported Monday that Aulaqi, who now lives in Yemen, has posted a
message on his Web site calling Hasan a "hero" for what he allegedly
did at Fort Hood.

Had authorities learned in advance of any link between Hasan and
radical Islam -- as opposed to the mainstream Islam practiced by more
than a billion people worldwide -- they could have moved immediately
to ensure that Hasan could not hurt others or himself. That wouldn't
have been an act of bigotry, it would have been an act of prudence,
even compassion.

How is the Pentagon supposed to tell the difference between reasonable
caution and blatant discrimination? There are thousands of Muslims in
uniform, serving their country at home and abroad. Ask them.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/09/AR2009110902601.html

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