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Dec 18, 2009, 1:26:33 AM12/18/09
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18 Dec 2009

QUOTE: Palin opposes cap-and-trade, as do we, as an unnecessary and
ineffective solution to a non-problem that will transfer our wealth to the
Hugo Chavezes and Robert Mugabes of the world.

QUOTE: "Why is Gov. Schwarzenegger pushing for the same sorts of policies in
Copenhagen that have helped drive his state into record deficits and
unemployment?"

QUOTE: California has been a leader, all right - right over the climate
cliff. The only drowning that's been going on is taxpayers in red ink.

QUOTE: Assembly Bill 32, modeled on the failed Kyoto Protocol and signed by
Schwarzenegger in 2006, has helped contribute to California's precipitous
economic decline

QUOTE: AB 32, when fully implemented, will cost the state some $71.46
billion annually. The cost to consumers will be $149.2 billion, and small
businesses will pay $182.64 billion. The once-golden state will lose more
than 1.1 million jobs - over 3% of the state's population.

Alaska's ex-governor asks a question we'd like answered:

Why is California's current governor pushing the same policies in Copenhagen
that helped drive his state into record deficits and unemployment?

The movie series that made Arnold Schwarzenegger a household name involved
cyborgs traveling through time to alternately try to destroy or save one
John Connor, who would grow up to be the leader of the resistance against a
race of machines that ruled the planet. Prominent in the series was his
tough cookie of a mom, Sarah Connor.

Another Sarah has taken the lead in another resistance against another group
determined to destroy the planet in order to save it in the name of climate
change.

She has crossed political swords with California's governor, the self-styled
"climate action hero for the globe" who finds himself in Copenhagen seeking
a "planetary transformation."

"There is a statue of the Little Mermaid in the harbor based on the Hans
Christian Andersen fairy tale," Schwarzenegger said at the conference based
on another fairy tale. "But when I was a boy in Austria, my favorite tale
was the Ugly Duckling because it was a tale of transformation that spoke to
me inside."

We're not making this up!

Acting on that inspiration, Schwarzenegger said: "The desire and hope and
desperate need for planetary transformation is what brought me here. Is it a
dream, a fairy tale, a false hope? If not, how can we make it real?"

Well, if we close our eyes, click our heels and follow Schwarzenegger's
lead, we just might find ourselves back in a preindustrial Kansas.

Just pay no attention to the climate research hoaxers behind the curtain at
the University of East Anglia.

Along the yellow brick road from Hollywood to Copenhagen, Schwarzenegger
took time to question Palin's stance on global warming - that it is
happening, but to a beneficial and not disastrous degree, with the Little
Mermaid or polar bears not in any danger of drowning.

Palin opposes cap-and-trade, as do we, as an unnecessary and ineffective
solution to a non-problem that will transfer our wealth to the Hugo Chavezes
and Robert Mugabes of the world.

"You have to ask: What was she trying to accomplish?" said Gov.
Schwarzenegger. "Is she really interested in this subject or is she
interested in her career and in winning the Republican nomination for
president? You have to take all these things with a grain of salt."

Not taking these remarks lying down, Palin responded on her Facebook page:
"Why is Gov. Schwarzenegger pushing for the same sorts of policies in
Copenhagen that have helped drive his state into record deficits and
unemployment?"

Good question!

"We in California do not wait for Washington or Beijing or Kyoto,"
Schwarzenegger said in Copenhagen. "We are moving forward and making great
progress."

California has been a leader, all right - right over the climate cliff. The
only drowning that's been going on is taxpayers in red ink.

A recent study by the California Business Roundtable shows that Assembly
Bill 32, modeled on the failed Kyoto Protocol and signed by Schwarzenegger
in 2006, has helped contribute to California's precipitous economic decline.

The study estimates that AB 32, when fully implemented, will cost the state
some $71.46 billion annually. The cost to consumers will be $149.2 billion,
and small businesses will pay $182.64 billion. The once-golden state will
lose more than 1.1 million jobs - over 3% of the state's population.

The San Diego Union-Tribune recently called for a suspension of AB 32, given
that state unemployment is at 12.5% and it's the state's business climate
that needs saving.

It noted a report observing that while "green jobs" had grown 36% statewide
since 1995, they constituted only 1% of all state jobs. Imagine the economy
of the entire US shackled by such legislation.

We won't have the luxury of saying it's only a movie

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=515705

Warmest Regards

B0n oz

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."

Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville


Surfer

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Dec 18, 2009, 3:22:37 AM12/18/09
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:26:33 +1100, "no ob" <a...@bbb.com> wrote:

>
>QUOTE: "Why is Gov. Schwarzenegger pushing for the same sorts of policies in
>Copenhagen that have helped drive his state into record deficits and
>unemployment?"
>

Perhaps the problems are caused by something else?

Denmark: A Model of a Low Carbon, Prosperous Economy
http://www.eesi.org/112009_denmark

<Start extract>

Since 1990, Denmark has grown its economy by 45 percent while energy
consumption has remained constant and CO2 emissions have fallen by 13
percent. The efficiency and renewable energy industries are thriving,
providing 11 percent of total Danish exports and contributing to
Denmark�s relatively high GDP and low unemployment. Specifically,
Denmark has focused on combined heat and power, wind energy, building
efficiency, and, most recently, electric vehicles, among numerous
strategies to reduce carbon emissions and enhance the Danish economy.

Combined Heat and Power (CHP)
In the United States, most electricity is generated by thermal power
plants, which have an average efficiency of 30-33 percent because
two-thirds of the energy used is released in the form of waste heat.
Combined heat and power (CHP) captures this heat and typically
distributes it to nearby buildings through a network of pipes known as
a district heating system to provide both space and water heating. CHP
systems operate at efficiencies as high as 90 percent, meaning total
energy consumption and C02 emissions are lower compared to systems
that produce heat and electricity separately. CHP plants provide 53
percent of Denmark's electricity and 80 percent of district heating.

Wind Energy
Wind energy (produced both on land and offshore) accounts for 19
percent of total electricity production in Denmark, compared to about
1.3 percent in the United States. In 2012, Denmark expects offshore
wind capacity to be three times the current level of 420 megawatts.
Denmark has become a world leader in wind turbine production,
manufacturing one-third of all wind turbines for the global market.
Many wind turbines in the United States are produced by Danish
manufacturers.

Building Efficiency
According to the Danish Energy Agency, houses built in 2008 use half
as much energy per square foot as houses built before 1977, leading to
significant cost-savings for consumers. Denmark achieved this
impressive gain in efficiency through strict building standards, a
labeling system for energy-efficient appliances, public awareness
campaigns, a requirement that energy certificates be included with the
sale of houses, and other residential and commercial efficiency
policies.

Electric Vehicles
The Danish Energy Agency has invested 35 million Danish kroner
(approximately $7 million) as part of a four-year test program
studying the best way to deploy electric vehicles on a large scale.
Widespread deployment of electric vehicles will significantly reduce
Denmark�s use of foreign oil and potentially will facilitate the
integration of more wind energy into the grid by providing battery
storage for this intermittent resource.

The Environmental and Energy Study Institute (EESI) and the Embassy of
Denmark will host a Congressional briefing on Tuesday, November 24 to
further explore the relationship between Denmark�s prosperity and its
bold carbon reduction initiatives. Speakers include S�ren Jensen,
Deputy Chief of Mission, Danish Embassy; Adam Monroe, President,
Novozymes North America; Michael Davidsen, Washington Manager, COWI
Group; and Greg Towsley, Director for the Innovation Platform
"Zero-Impact of Commercial Buildings in the USA", Grundfos Management
A/S.

<End extract>


mark

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Dec 18, 2009, 5:16:02 AM12/18/09
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global warming is real
pollution from dirty energy is real and dangers are not told
If you live near coal pollution or particulate pollution even a state
or two away and are exposed you might be in grave danger

don't ever let anyone tell you the coal industry or people who allowed
> this to happen didn't know any betterhttp://phillypollution.blogspot.com
both the liberal press and conservative agenda are equally fighting
against telling the truth

http://phillypollution.blogspot.com/

no ob

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Dec 18, 2009, 11:27:52 PM12/18/09
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"Surfer" <n...@spam.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:26:33 +1100, "no ob" <a...@bbb.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>QUOTE: "Why is Gov. Schwarzenegger pushing for the same sorts of policies
>>in
>>Copenhagen that have helped drive his state into record deficits and
>>unemployment?"
>>
> Perhaps the problems are caused by something else?
>
> Denmark: A Model of a Low Carbon, Prosperous Economy
> http://www.eesi.org/112009_denmark
>

Nordic Energy Nonsense Exposed

Terry McCrann

March 17 2009

QUOTE: Denmark is still the world's fifth biggest importer of coal,
according to Orchison, citing no less an authority than Greenpeace!

QUOTE: at a point in time wind might be supplying 70 per cent of the
country's power. Yet 48 hours later is supplying almost zero.

QUOTE: Unlike Denmark we don't have big dirty neighbours.

A long extension-cord to New Zealand wouldn't cut it.

ENERGY consultant Keith Orchison has really nailed the 'Nordic Myth'.

That Denmark can show us the way to a clean, green energy future.

Yeah, right.

Provided we can link up with someone, somewhere producing lots of reliable
power from nuclear plants or, shudder, shudder, coal.

Yes, Denmark now notionally gets about 18 per cent of its electricity from
wind -- capping that from coal just below 50 per cent.

But that tells only part of the story, as Orchison writes on his Coolibah
blog.

That is only possible because Denmark is linked to the power grids in
Norway, Sweden and Germany.

So it can actually keep its lights on when the wind don't blow. As it
does -- more correctly, doesn't.

And at the wind's choosing, not the power companies'.

As I've shown from Danish power statistics, at a point in time wind might be
supplying 70 per cent of the country's power.

Yet 48 hours later is supplying almost zero.

When that happens Denmark has to immediately suck in power from its
neighbours.

It can only do so easily because it is tiny and its demand can be easily
accommodated by one or more of its neighbours.

The German power it takes comes from coal and nuclear plants; the Swedish
from nuclear and hydro; the Norwegian from hydro.

No, Denmark is not acting as just a "go-between transmitter among the
inter-connected Nordic countries", as one journalist wrote attacking
Orchison.

It is importing wicked nuclear and coal and, in the eyes of greens only
slightly less wicked, hydro power because it has to.

It's been able to be 'pure' by being able to welsh off bigger neighbours.

Partly pure. It's still the world's fifth biggest importer of coal,
according to Orchison, citing no less an authority than Greenpeace!

Yes we can also be just as -- pointlessly -- half pure as Denmark,
scattering useless wind farms across the landscape.

Provided we are prepared to build more coal or nuclear plants to actually
generate power when that cussed wind don't blow.

Unlike Denmark we don't have big dirty neighbours. A long extension-cord to
New Zealand wouldn't cut it.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25197082-36281,00.html

no ob

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"Surfer" <n...@spam.net> wrote in message
news:dtemi5lmod5951914...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:26:33 +1100, "no ob" <a...@bbb.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>QUOTE: "Why is Gov. Schwarzenegger pushing for the same sorts of policies
>>in
>>Copenhagen that have helped drive his state into record deficits and
>>unemployment?"
>>
> Perhaps the problems are caused by something else?
>
> Denmark: A Model of a Low Carbon, Prosperous Economy
> http://www.eesi.org/112009_denmark
>

Nordic Energy Nonsense Exposed

Terry McCrann

March 17 2009

Yeah, right.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25197082-36281,00.html

Warmest Regards

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