Most HATED man in America - "Traitor Joe" Lieberman
Doug Bashford
Most HATED man in America?
Could Rush Limbaugh, George Bush, Dick Cheney,
Bennidict Arnold, have a challenger?
It's weird, in the last few weeks I've heard three pundits
who never use the word "hate," use it, and use it
with remorse as if ashamed, against "Traitor Joe."
There is a common theme, and it's not how Joe votes, it's
why he does it. Every time. They all agree, and I'm
pretty sure they reached that opinion independently.
...No, this really IS weird.
===========
From Randi Rhodes: www.therandirhodesshow.com/main.html
"...Traitor Joe" Lieberman, the man almost single-handedly
responsible for the demise of the Medicare buy-in, has flat out
said that he decided to kill the Medicare proposal because
liberals liked it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/15/lieberman-liberal-enthusi_n_392887.html
Obviously Joe was fine with Medicare expansion as a policy�he
supported it until just recently. It seems he just hated the fact
that it might make other people happy! The New York Times
reported that Lieberman "said he was particularly troubled by the
overly enthusiastic reaction to the proposal by some liberals,
including Representative Anthony Weiner..."
Nice! Joe Lieberman is motivated by pure vengeance. That isn't
legislating... it's not even politics. It's childish petulance.
If that's the case, can't Lieberman just let the bill pass and
add an amendment that says "Liberals suck"? Congressman Weiner
pointed out "Let's be clear, this is an idea Senator Lieberman
has proposed, repeatedly." Unfortunately, Lieberman seems willing
to go against his own preferences in order to hurt others...."
[big snips]
===========
He was for it before he was against it.
For childish petulance.
My take? Who cares? While the Great Awashed seemingly need
to put a human face on concepts, let's be careful the face
doesn't become a destructive diversion. This is NOT a slow
news week. Newsies need no pretty lost blondes in Aruba.
The diversion? From what then? Joe is just one of many
corporate whores. And there is talk he's also trying
to defang Obama because he's a Zionist extremist, a
taboo topic (American Zionist extremist politicians)
that needs to be explored.
Actually, they are BOTH taboo topics.
Cambridge International Dictionary of English:
Zionism - noun
a political movement which had as its original aim
the creation of a country for Jewish people, and
which now works to help the development of Israel
- Political Economics:
- "Fascism should more properly be called
- corporatism, since it is the merger
- of state and corporate power."
-- - Benito Mussolini, father of fascism.
- Socialism: The government/people own the corporations.
- Fascism: The corporations/government own the people.
- Republicans: think the very rich are the backbone of America.
- Democrats: think the middle class are the backbone of America.
- Republicans: fear government but trust corporations.
- Democrats: fear both.
- "Fascism...is the merger
- of state and corporate power."
-- - Benito Mussolini
So? How might that merger happen in America?
Well in this case, what's the difference between merger
and government's deregulation of corporations?
Not much that I can see. Voila!
Corporations are now super people protected by the Constitution.
But it hasn't always been that way.
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. is a person, not in fact, not in flesh, not in any tangible form, but in law.
To their everlasting glory, this is not what the Founding Fathers intended.
For 100 years after the Constitution was ratified, various governmental entities led corporations around on leashes, like obedient puppies, canceling their charters promptly if they compromised the public good in any way.
The leashes broke in 1886, the puppies got away, and the public good was increasingly compromised until it was finally displaced altogether.
Today, the First Amendment protects the right of corporations-as-persons to finance political campaigns and to employ lobbyists, who then specify and redeem the incurred obligations.
Democracy has been transformed into a crypto-plutocracy, and public policy is no longer crafted to serve the American people at large. It is shaped instead to maintain, protect, enhance or create opportunities for corporate profit.
Isn't that the root of the rot?
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carl
of this country. He's bankrupting this country.
And you have the gaul to have Bush...Cheney and Lieberman as
trailtors. You stupid liberal moron. Obama is being hated now.
"Doug Bashford" <pla...@work.edu> wrote in message
news:cuWdnZtwcKod47fW...@pghconnect.com...
>
> Most HATED man in America?
> Could Rush Limbaugh, George Bush, Dick Cheney,
> Bennidict Arnold, have a challenger?
>
> It's weird, in the last few weeks I've heard three pundits
> who never use the word "hate," use it, and use it
> with remorse as if ashamed, against "Traitor Joe."
> There is a common theme, and it's not how Joe votes, it's
> why he does it. Every time. They all agree, and I'm
> pretty sure they reached that opinion independently.
> ...No, this really IS weird.
>
> ===========
> From Randi Rhodes: www.therandirhodesshow.com/main.html
> "...Traitor Joe" Lieberman, the man almost single-handedly
> responsible for the demise of the Medicare buy-in, has flat out
> said that he decided to kill the Medicare proposal because
> liberals liked it.
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/15/lieberman-liberal-enthusi_n_392887.html
> Obviously Joe was fine with Medicare expansion as a policy-he
Bert Hyman
(Doug Bashford) wrote:
> There is a common theme, and it's not how Joe votes, it's
> why he does it. Every time. They all agree, and I'm
> pretty sure they reached that opinion independently.
Independently? Not likely.
I think you need to expand your list of news and commentary sources.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
Phlip
> Innews:cuWdnZtwcKod47fW...@pghconnect.complay...@work.edu
>
> (Doug Bashford) wrote:
> > There is a common theme, and it's not how Joe votes, it's
> > why he does it. Every time. They all agree, and I'm
> > pretty sure they reached that opinion independently.
>
> Independently? Not likely.
Why yes. All the liberal intellectuals get their talking points
directly from George Soros.
All the wingnuts, however, carefully read all the source materials and
independently reach their own conclusions...
>
> I think you need to expand your list of news and commentary sources.
>
> --
> Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN b...@iphouse.com
Doug Bashford
in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, Bert Hyman said about:
Re: Most HATED man in America - "Traitor Joe" Lieberman
> In news:cuWdnZtwcKod47fW...@pghconnect.com pla...@work.edu
> (Doug Bashford) wrote:
>
> > There is a common theme, and it's not how Joe votes, it's
> > why he does it. Every time. They all agree, and I'm
> > pretty sure they reached that opinion independently.
>
> Independently? Not likely.
No, Likely. It's simple to tell who's listening to whom.
For example, Limbaugh, OReally, Hannity, Beck all read from
the same talking points, but Savage does not. Hannity is
just dumbed down Limbaugh, the others add only personal
spices to the same old meat. But Republicans all are the same:
EEK! Run and Hide! Be afraid! Bunker up!
>
> I think you need to expand your list of news and commentary sources.
Thanks! I do too.
freeisbest
> Most HATED man in America?
> Could Rush Limbaugh, George Bush, Dick Cheney,
> Bennidict Arnold, have a challenger?
>
> It's weird, in the last few weeks I've heard three pundits
> who never use the word "hate," use it, and use it
> with remorse as if ashamed, against "Traitor Joe."
> There is a common theme, and it's not how Joe votes, it's
> why he does it. Every time. They all agree, and I'm
> pretty sure they reached that opinion independently.
> ...No, this really IS weird.
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"Most hated man in America" is probably an understatement. Let me
put it this way: today at the doctor's office I heard a quiet
conversation between two women who appeared to be in their late 60's,
to the effect that they would dearly love to go beat him up so that he
was unrecognizable, steal his I.D., and then make sure that he was
taken to a hospital emergency room in a D.C. slum. I was proud of
them.
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
wrote:
>Well thats funny. Lot of people now think Obama is a traitor
>of this country. He's bankrupting this country.
>And you have the gaul to have Bush...Cheney and Lieberman as
>trailtors. You stupid liberal moron. Obama is being hated now.
Boy, you GOP whores will jump up and down and squeak ANYTHING if it
will only allow you to deny that the massive debt and economic
tailspit were caused by the disasterous Republican policies over the
past 30 years.
Phlip
> "Most hated man in America" is probably an understatement. Let me
> put it this way: today at the doctor's office I heard a quiet
> conversation between two women who appeared to be in their late 60's,
> to the effect that they would dearly love to go beat him up so that he
> was unrecognizable, steal his I.D., and then make sure that he was
> taken to a hospital emergency room in a D.C. slum. I was proud of
> them.
Dr. 1: Obviously a psych case. Keeps claiming he's Joe Lieberman.
Dr. 2: Turf him. We have paying patients to see!
znuybv
> Well thats funny. Lot of people now think Obama is a traitor
> of this country. He's bankrupting this country.
> And you have the gaul to have Bush...Cheney and Lieberman as
> trailtors. You stupid liberal moron. Obama is being hated now.
>
>
> news:cuWdnZtwcKod47fW...@pghconnect.com...
>
>
>
> > Most HATED man in America?
> > Could Rush Limbaugh, George Bush, Dick Cheney,
> > Bennidict Arnold, have a challenger?
>
> > It's weird, in the last few weeks I've heard three pundits
> > who never use the word "hate," use it, and use it
> > with remorse as if ashamed, against "Traitor Joe."
> > There is a common theme, and it's not how Joe votes, it's
> > why he does it. Every time. They all agree, and I'm
> > pretty sure they reached that opinion independently.
> > ...No, this really IS weird.
>
> > ===========
> > From Randi Rhodes:www.therandirhodesshow.com/main.html
> > "...Traitor Joe" Lieberman, the man almost single-handedly
> > responsible for the demise of the Medicare buy-in, has flat out
> > said that he decided to kill the Medicare proposal because
> > liberals liked it.
The Black Surrender Monkey has my vote for the most hated man in
America. He's bankrupting the country.
znuybv
<ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:00:59 -0800, "carl" <cstandi...@bak.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Well thats funny. Lot of people now think Obama is a traitor
> >of this country. He's bankrupting this country.
> >And you have the gaul to have Bush...Cheney and Lieberman as
> >trailtors. You stupid liberal moron. Obama is being hated now.
>
> Boy, you GOP whores will jump up and down and squeak ANYTHING if it
> will only allow you to deny that the massive debt and economic
> tailspit were caused by the disasterous Republican policies over the
> past 30 years.
>
>
>
debt.
Let's talk about how bad things were when Bush was in office and not
mention how the economy got worse when the Black Surrender Monkey took
over.
freeisbest
:^) Oh, yes...
Arizona Bushwhacker
"znuybv" <tjwi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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They act the way the Democrat whores did when Bush was running up the
debt.
Let's talk about how bad things were when Bush was in office and not
mention how the economy got worse when the Black Surrender Monkey took
over.
You supported Bush running up the National Debt
for the war.
The Black Surrender Monkey went from 35,000 troops
in Afghanistan to 75,000 and will soon be increasing
that number to over 100,000. Not to mention he is
increasing the number of mercenary's from 50,000 to
over 100,000.
So tell me dip-shit...
Would you rather have Obama pay for this war with
a war tax, or would you rather have him pay for the
war with more debt?
Arizona Bushwhacker
> The Black Surrender Monkey
I love these idiot fucking republicans.
I really do.
Who other than these idiots could think Obama
going from 35,000 troops to 75,000 on the
ground, and then surging that number to over
100,000 is surrendering?
How fucked in the head are these idiot fucking republicans?
Good Lord these republicans are idiots.
Bugs
> Let's talk about how bad things were when Bush was in office and not
> mention how the economy got worse when the Black Surrender Monkey took
> over.
Are you on the same planet as I?
The Bush depression is bottoming out with an uptick on the horizon in
less than a year. Not bad considering eight years of GW almost
bankrupted / decimated the country.
The stock market is up about 40% in the short time Obama has been in
office - nearly offsetting the 40% decline through the GW years.
Whereas business & investors ran to the sidelines almost from the day GW
was elected, they have continually shown confidence in the Obama
leadership, almost from the day he was elected. Has any president had
such a significant drop in their eight years?
About the only people left still believing GW did anything useful are
the rednecks in trailer parks who had nothing to lose under GW.
Of course, if it wasn't for GW's inept leadership, Obama would never
have been elected.
Bugs
It's hard to comprehend reality with a fourth-grade education.
Werner
> ...
>
> Today, the First Amendment protects the right of corporations-as-persons to finance political campaigns and to employ lobbyists, who then specify and redeem the incurred obligations.
> Democracy has been transformed into a crypto-plutocracy, and public policy is no longer crafted to serve the American people at large. It is shaped instead to maintain, protect, enhance or create opportunities for corporate profit.
>
> Isn't that the root of the rot?
>
No. The root of the rot is people using BigGovernment to exploit their
neighbors.
"
In crafting the Bill of Rights, the framers were careful to
acknowledge implicitly and explicitly two key truths:
The first is that government does not grant rights it acknowledges
them. They exist independently of government. They're part of who and
what we are. And, as Jefferson noted in the Declaration of
Independence, the only legitimate function of government is to secure
them.
The second is that government is a servant to whom we delegate
powers,
not a master who dispenses privileges. The Constitution
carefully
enumerates the powers we, the people, delegate to our
government and
it specifically denies that government any powers not
so delegated.
Our rights lie beyond the pale of that delegation. They
are
sacrosanct. Any government which infringes upon them is engaged
in an
intolerable usurpation.
"
www.badnarik.org
-----
A "right" as envisioned by the Founders meant that the government
was
not permitted to interfere with your pursuit of them, i.e.,
your
pursuit of happiness was to be unhindered by government.
The "right" of free speech means that government cannot interfere
with your free speech. The "right" of gun ownership means that the
government cannot infringe your gun ownership. What does "right"
to health care mean? It means that the government cannot stand in
the way of your pursuit of health care, or impede your
obtaining health care. The "right" to an attorney means that the
government cannot prevent you obtaining an attorney to represent
you.
Of course, "right" has incorrectly come to mean that someone must
supply you with something. If your "right" to housing means that
some slave must supply you with housing, and your "right" to health
care means that some slave must supply you with health care, and
your
"right" to an attorney means that some slave must supply you
with an
attorney, does your "right" to free speech mean that some
slave must
supply you with a loudspeaker, or TV air time? Does your
"right" to
own guns mean that some slave must supply you with guns?
http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/Rights.shtml
Dollars in the common treasury are like fish in the common sea -
anyone who can will harvest to extinction. That is why socialism is
fundamentally corrupting and can not work. The Fed is making a lot of
paper fish. This is an illusion of wealth. The real fish are gone.
----
http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/how.shtml
Governing has become a way to get privileges for some at the expense
of others.
http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/what.shtml
http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2008/August/the-national-debt.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp8ZmQMCtqA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FSoXKapKQs&feature=related
Bert Hyman
news:e159afdb-eafe-4a3d...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com
Werner <whet...@mac.com> wrote:
> On Dec 17, 4:25 pm, play...@work.edu (Doug Bashford) wrote:
>> ...
>>
>> Today, the First Amendment protects the right of
>> corporations-as-persons
> to finance political campaigns and to employ lobbyists, who then
> specify and redeem the incurred obligations.
>> Democracy has been transformed into a crypto-plutocracy, and public
> policy is no longer crafted to serve the American people at large. It
> is shaped instead to maintain, protect, enhance or create
> opportunities for corporate profit.
>>
>> Isn't that the root of the rot?
>>
>
>
> No. The root of the rot is people using BigGovernment to exploit their
> neighbors.
Or, you could say that the root is a government which is more than
willing to be the vehicle of that exploitation.
The US Constitution, as originally imagined, established a government of
limited and enumerated powers. A few vague or intentionally
misinterpreted phrases ("provide for the ... general welfare", "regulate
commerce ... among the several states", for example) have now produced a
behemoth which intrudes on nearly every aspect of private and commercial
life in the US.
Corrupt businessmen bribe corrupt Congressmen to enact laws which will
benefit them or harm their competitors.
Corrupt Congressmen feel competent to legislate and regulate anything
and everything while knowing nothing, allowing favored lobbyists to
provide the text of legislation that they never read.
So, while some part of the people might clamor to have the government
exploit their neighbors, the fault really lies with Congress and the
Executive, who merely have to say "no" to solve the entire problem.
buzz
Bush closes the gap - Ben Smith: Bush closes the gap
December 09, 2009
Public Policy Polling:
Perhaps the greatest measure of Obama's declining support is that just
50% of voters now say they prefer having him as President to George W.
Bush, with 44% saying they'd rather have his predecessor.
Looks like your messiah you thought you were electing isn't turning out
to be the messiah you thought you elected.
Barack Hussein Obama...MMM MMM MMM
Send HIM to Pakistan to fight Osama...MMM MMM MMM
Simple-minded dummycrats (the party that birthed the KKK) and
liberals...morons electing morons.
Firelock
> "Most hated man in America" is probably an understatement. Let me
> put it this way: today at the doctor's office I heard a quiet
> conversation between two women who appeared to be in their late 60's,
> to the effect that they would dearly love to go beat him up so that he
> was unrecognizable, steal his I.D., and then make sure that he was
> taken to a hospital emergency room in a D.C. slum. I was proud of
> them.
Tell me, freebie, does the dream of all your enemies getting
beaten into unrecognizable messes give you warm fuzzies,
or is there something special about Lieberman?
--
Walt
Phlip
> Corrupt businessmen bribe corrupt Congressmen to enact laws which will
> benefit them or harm their competitors.
Which is why theft is legal if you are an anointed HMO.
Phlip
Leiberman will never experience the suffering he is now visiting on others.
Werner
> ...
>
> So, while some part of the people might clamor to have the government
> exploit their neighbors, the fault really lies with Congress and the
> Executive, who merely have to say "no" to solve the entire problem.
>
> --
Unfortunately, politicians want to be reelected. So the fault lies
with the voters who elect them.
Werner
As well as anyone getting money from the treasury or special
privileges from the government.
znuybv
> znuybv wrote:
> > Let's talk about how bad things were when Bush was in office and not
> > mention how the economy got worse when the Black Surrender Monkey took
> > over.
>
> Are you on the same planet as I?
>
> The Bush depression is bottoming out with an uptick on the horizon in
> less than a year. Not bad considering eight years of GW almost
> bankrupted / decimated the country.
>
I think you and Barney Frank are hanging around Uranus. Here on Earth
Obama is in the process of wrecking the US economy and bankrupting the
country.
Bugs
Why did you remove the link that backed up that claim?
The only problem I see is paying the $1T that GW borrowed for his
pissing contest with Iraq. Has even a penny been paid on that debt?
Most of the money lent to the banks has already been repaid.
znuybv
> znuybv wrote:
> > On Dec 17, 4:44 pm, Bugs <B...@bunny.com> wrote:
>
> >>znuybv wrote:
>
> >>>Let's talk about how bad things were when Bush was in office and not
> >>>mention how the economy got worse when the Black Surrender Monkey took
> >>>over.
>
> >>Are you on the same planet as I?
>
> >>The Bush depression is bottoming out with an uptick on the horizon in
> >>less than a year. Not bad considering eight years of GW almost
> >>bankrupted / decimated the country.
>
> > I think you and Barney Frank are hanging around Uranus. Here on Earth
> > Obama is in the process of wrecking the US economy and bankrupting the
> > country.
>
> Why did you remove the link that backed up that claim?
>
Bugs
> On Dec 18, 3:37 pm, Bugs <B...@bunny.com> wrote:
>
>>znuybv wrote:
>>
>>>On Dec 17, 4:44 pm, Bugs <B...@bunny.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>znuybv wrote:
>>
>>>>>Let's talk about how bad things were when Bush was in office and not
>>>>>mention how the economy got worse when the Black Surrender Monkey took
>>>>>over.
>>
>>>>Are you on the same planet as I?
>>
>>>>The Bush depression is bottoming out with an uptick on the horizon in
>>>>less than a year. Not bad considering eight years of GW almost
>>>>bankrupted / decimated the country.
>>
>>>I think you and Barney Frank are hanging around Uranus. Here on Earth
>>>Obama is in the process of wrecking the US economy and bankrupting the
>>>country.
>>
>>Why did you remove the link that backed up that claim?
>>
>
> Because it was pure bull shit.
>
>
My error. The link on the unemployment was on a different posting.
Here it is:
http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/18/news/economy/state_unemployment/index.htm
What part of that it BS?
Have you looked at the Dow, S&P or Nasdaq lately?
What part of that is BS?
Hint - business & investors ran to the side lines almost to the day GW
took office. After a small J curve, business & investors have been
putting their money into the Obama leadership.
znuybv
> znuybv wrote:
> > On Dec 18, 3:37 pm, Bugs <B...@bunny.com> wrote:
>
> >>znuybv wrote:
>
> >>>On Dec 17, 4:44 pm, Bugs <B...@bunny.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>znuybv wrote:
>
> >>>>>Let's talk about how bad things were when Bush was in office and not
> >>>>>mention how the economy got worse when the Black Surrender Monkey took
> >>>>>over.
>
> >>>>Are you on the same planet as I?
>
> >>>>The Bush depression is bottoming out with an uptick on the horizon in
> >>>>less than a year. Not bad considering eight years of GW almost
> >>>>bankrupted / decimated the country.
>
> >>>I think you and Barney Frank are hanging around Uranus. Here on Earth
> >>>Obama is in the process of wrecking the US economy and bankrupting the
> >>>country.
>
> >>Why did you remove the link that backed up that claim?
>
> > Because it was pure bull shit.
>
> My error. The link on the unemployment was on a different posting.
> Here it is:
>
>
> What part of that it BS?
>
> Have you looked at the Dow, S&P or Nasdaq lately?
>
Congress.
Then it went to Hell.
> What part of that is BS?
>
> Hint - business & investors ran to the side lines almost to the day GW
> took office. After a small J curve, business & investors have been
> putting their money into the Obama leadership.
The leadership of the Chicago gangsters will really put us on the
track to ruination.
Obama couldn't hit himself in the ass with both hands. Without the
teleprompter he's lost.
Deaf Power
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:57:16 -0800 (PST), znuybv <tjwi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>I started to look at it in 2007 when the Demorats took control of
>Congress.
>Then it went to Hell.
It started in 2000 when the Republicraps took control of Congress.
Then it went to Hell.
>The leadership of the Chicago gangsters will really put us on the
>track to ruination.
>Obama couldn't hit himself in the ass with both hands. Without the
>teleprompter he's lost.
The leadership of the fascist gangsters of Adolf W. Bush put on the
track to ruination. Without a teleprompter he's lost.
Hope this clears up because you're still drunken on booze, babs.
znuybv
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:57:16 -0800 (PST),znuybv<tjwil...@yahoo.com>
Lay off the crack for awhile.
Deaf Power
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:51:01 -0800 (PST), znuybv <tjwi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>On Dec 18, 4:58�pm, Deaf Power <d...@power.com> wrote:
I don't need your crack. You're too drunk to understand.