Schools told to act on 'transgender bullying'
J
fruitcake in the school yard? The government should leave the raising of
kids to the parents. No one is doing these little marys any favors by over
protecting them from a little juvenile fun; they have a rough future ahead
of them and it's best to toughen them up a little now.
Schools told to act on 'transgender bullying'
Children who engage in "transphobic" bullying in the playground or classroom
could be guilty of a hate crime and investigated by police under new
government guidance. Pupils could be expelled and their parents forced to
attend counselling if they refuse to accept that such behaviour is wrong.
The detailed guidance, running to 46 pages, tells schools how to deal with
transphobic bullying, defined as bullying stemming from a hatred or fear of
people who are transgender - an umbrella term for people whose sense of
gender or gender identity is seen as different from typical norms.
--
J Young
Jvis...@live.com
A very Merry Christmas to all!
Turk182
>
> A very Merry Christmas to all!
The problem is that the government always feels the need to divide us
into sections.
Bullying is a problem that impacts all children (and adults)
regardless of gender, race, sexual orientation or whatever.
We can go down a list one by one of 'type of people' that the bully
shouldn't bully, but all that will do is cause the bully to move onto
a new 'type' or individual. The only way to approach this is to heal
the bully, who is ususually bullying because he/she is a victim of
another form of bullying or acute home disfunction which is then
displaced by 'passing it on'.
While emergency steps do have to be taken to protect the more
vulnerable groups, it is not nearly enough by itself. Bullying is
entrenched in British culture and it is alive and well within
politics. We need to concentrate our efforts on the process of
bullying per se, rather than the isolated and newsworthy examples
which merely get added to a growing list of 'official' victims.
Turk182
Mike Ross
>Have the Brits gone mad? How do they expect an 11 year old to react to some
>fruitcake in the school yard? The government should leave the raising of
>kids to the parents. No one is doing these little marys any favors by over
>protecting them from a little juvenile fun; they have a rough future ahead
>of them and it's best to toughen them up a little now.
Quite right; the school should prevent ALL pupils from bullying ANYONE. Why on
earth is behaviour seen to be 'acceptable' or 'just part of growing up' for kids
old enough to know better, when it would have serious consequences for adults?
Teach the Golden fucking Rule!
Mike
--
http://www.corestore.org
'As I walk along these shores
I am the history within'
Cynic
>Have the Brits gone mad? How do they expect an 11 year old to react to some
>fruitcake in the school yard? The government should leave the raising of
>kids to the parents. No one is doing these little marys any favors by over
>protecting them from a little juvenile fun; they have a rough future ahead
>of them and it's best to toughen them up a little now.
>Children who engage in "transphobic" bullying in the playground or classroom
>could be guilty of a hate crime and investigated by police under new
>government guidance. Pupils could be expelled and their parents forced to
>attend counselling if they refuse to accept that such behaviour is wrong.
>The detailed guidance, running to 46 pages, tells schools how to deal with
>transphobic bullying, defined as bullying stemming from a hatred or fear of
>people who are transgender - an umbrella term for people whose sense of
>gender or gender identity is seen as different from typical norms.
I'm not at all sure I understand the problem this is attempting to
address.
AFAIAA there is very little liklihood of the vast majority of children
ever seeing a transexual or cross-dresser in the classroom or
playground.
Is it attempting to address the issue of anti-homosexual taunts and
accusations by school children? If so, that has nothing to do with
trans-gender, and also has very little to do with homosexuality. It
is usually just a form of mindless insult, alongside, "You smell" or
"You're a spastic".
--
Cynic
Jethro
>
> A very Merry Christmas to all!
This will run slap-bang into the new laws the government have passed,
allowing personal beliefs (not just recognised religions) to be
protected against discrimination. Parents who "refuse to accept such
behaviour is wrong" will have a valid cause for legal action.
It would have been better if they had left well alone !
Mr X
"Cynic" <cyni...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Is it attempting to address the issue of anti-homosexual taunts and
> accusations by school children? If so, that has nothing to do with
> trans-gender, and also has very little to do with homosexuality. It
> is usually just a form of mindless insult, alongside, "You smell" or
> "You're a spastic".
>
Spastic - how old are you????? :-)
November 5
J wrote:
> Have the Brits gone mad? How do they expect an 11 year old to react to some
> fruitcake in the school yard? The government should leave the raising of
> kids to the parents. No one is doing these little marys any favors by over
> protecting them from a little juvenile fun; they have a rough future ahead
> of them and it's best to toughen them up a little now.
Agreed. The children are just labeling an aberration as they see it
before political correctness and all associated legal BS adults have
to put up with. In a sense they are simply being honest here.
As usual the knee-jerk reaction is to have more laws and rules to try
to turn people "good". Good deeds come from good character, not good
laws.
N5
Simon Not Cornholed
"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>
> Have the Brits gone mad? How do they expect an 11 year old to react to some
> fruitcake in the school yard? The government should leave the raising of
> kids to the parents. No one is doing these little marys any favors by over
> protecting them from a little juvenile fun; they have a rough future ahead
> of them and it's best to toughen them up a little now.
>
Piss on the little cunts. They've not even been wanked up the
anus yet and they think they're queer? A good ass beating is
what they need.
Cynic
wrote:
>> Is it attempting to address the issue of anti-homosexual taunts and
>> accusations by school children? If so, that has nothing to do with
>> trans-gender, and also has very little to do with homosexuality. It
>> is usually just a form of mindless insult, alongside, "You smell" or
>> "You're a spastic".
>Window Licker was the term when I was at school.
>Spastic - how old are you????? :-)
Ancient :-)
--
Cynic
Cynic
<november...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Have the Brits gone mad? How do they expect an 11 year old to react to some
>> fruitcake in the school yard? The government should leave the raising of
>> kids to the parents. No one is doing these little marys any favors by over
>> protecting them from a little juvenile fun; they have a rough future ahead
>> of them and it's best to toughen them up a little now.
>Agreed. The children are just labeling an aberration as they see it
>before political correctness and all associated legal BS adults have
>to put up with. In a sense they are simply being honest here.
No, they are just making fun of someone who is different in some way,
just as children always have and no doubt always will. Not that I
believe that any significant number of schoolchildren come across such
people (as far as they are aware) - and especially not within the
grounds of their schools.
--
Cynic
Andy
molested and impregnated by men trying to show they're "real" men.
Including little sisters , sometimes even mothers and grandmothers...
If homophobes claim to support family values , then it's the values of
Fred and Rose West.
Britain has always had bullies, always has, always will. Just like
paedos, nazis and religious extremists. Part of life...
But bullying has got so bad that intelligent men and women are unable
to use their talents, and the poor taxpayer has to pay for their
giros. And cancer patients will have to wait for the cure after kids
drop out of high school and experiment with morphine etc instead-
again because of bullying, and the fact that bullies who get away with
it will ruin others lives.
Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind - no pain, no gain. But
bullying only gets you short term gains for a life of guilt and
misery...
Being rich , famous or sexy will make you happy for a while. But
feeling guilty will bring guaranteed misery...
Bullies have their own union now - the BNP.
Graham Murray
> Window Licker was the term when I was at school.
> Spastic - how old are you????? :-)
'Spastic' was a common derogatory term when I was at primary school. I
am 52.
Francis Burton
Mr X <inv...@invalid.com> wrote:
>Window Licker was the term when I was at school.
>Spastic - how old are you????? :-)
It was "spastic" and later "spaz" during my time at school (60s
and 70s).
Francis
Syd M.
> Have the Brits gone mad?
No, asshole, they gone sane.
Unlike you.
PDW
li...@sky.net
the muslim fraternity went part way in addressing this problem many
moons ago, that's why they invented the burqa..
you think they're all female under them tarpaulins? ... think again!
Steve Walker
> Have the Brits gone mad? How do they expect an 11 year old to react to
> some fruitcake in the school yard? The government should leave the
> raising of kids to the parents. No one is doing these little marys any
> favors by over protecting them from a little juvenile fun
Were you a bully at school J, or did you just fear and envy the bullies?
anonymous
>
> On 23 Dec, 06:08, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> > Have the Brits gone mad? How do they expect an 11 year old to react to some
> > fruitcake in the school yard? The government should leave the raising of
> > kids to the parents. No one is doing these little marys any favors by over
> > protecting them from a little juvenile fun; they have a rough future ahead
> > of them and it's best to toughen them up a little now.
Youa are absolutely correct. But the dynamics of a child who is bullied
is just as complex. Usually the mother is a bit of a bully with her
kids and the father is a bit passive. The father doesn't say son we
have to got out in the the back yard or park as the case may be and I
will show you how to throw a blow or two and I will show you how to take
a blow or two and I will show you how to fall. Additionally, I will
give you a gift of sending you off to a judo class for a while and they
will help you, too.
The fathers usually do nothing aren't present too much and the mothers
run to the school wherever and say that the bully has to be spoken to
and the bully's parents have to be spoken to. Usually that is a lost
cause. The bully might be hit by a family member for bringing the
school officials around or bringing attention to the family.
The fix is not in the bully, but in giving the kid the basic skills to
standup for himself. The difference between the two is very, very
small, but it is knowing what to do when and what to say when. The
reason the victim doesn't know is that he has no examples or guidance in
the home. The parents just don't see it either, even when you point it
out to them politely, they just don't get it or can accept it. But
again these mothers are usually bully's themselves and the fathers are
passive so what can one expect.
Smurf
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:08:53 -0500, "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>
>> Have the Brits gone mad? How do they expect an 11 year old to react
>> to some fruitcake in the school yard? The government should leave
>> the raising of kids to the parents. No one is doing these little
>> marys any favors by over protecting them from a little juvenile fun;
>> they have a rough future ahead of them and it's best to toughen them
>> up a little now.
>
> Quite right; the school should prevent ALL pupils from bullying
> ANYONE. Why on earth is behaviour seen to be 'acceptable' or 'just
> part of growing up' for kids old enough to know better, when it would
> have serious consequences for adults? Teach the Golden fucking Rule!
>
> Mike
The problem is, that bullying is often ignored in a school environment,
unless the victim is from a protected minority group and then it is treat
out of all proportion.. Its similar to the way someone with poor parenting
skills allows bad behaviour to carry on without check, and then suddenly
comes down extremely hard and beats the child.
Smurf
The more insulting term of Spakker and Mong seemed to be the most popular
when i was there, and i am early 30s.
Mr X
"Smurf" <sm...@smurf.com> wrote in message
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Nkosi (ama-ecosse)
A bunch of crock Andy the cream always rises to the top, The only
political bullies are nu liebour for trying to foist thier soialistic
shite on th erest of us.
Nkosi
Dänk 1010011010
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:08:53 -0500, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> >Have the Brits gone mad? How do they expect an 11 year old to react to some
> >fruitcake in the school yard? The government should leave the raising of
> >kids to the parents. No one is doing these little marys any favors by over
> >protecting them from a little juvenile fun; they have a rough future ahead
> >of them and it's best to toughen them up a little now.
>
> Quite right; the school should prevent ALL pupils from bullying ANYONE. Why on
> earth is behaviour seen to be 'acceptable' or 'just part of growing up' for kids
> old enough to know better, when it would have serious consequences for adults?
> Teach the Golden fucking Rule!
When I was a kid I was attacked by a school bully, and later called
into the principal's office to explain what I had done to provoke the
attack. I don't think the bully was ever punished, because he was on
was one of the school's sports teams.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/june99/columbine12.htm
"The state wrestling champ was regularly permitted to park his
$100,000 Hummer all day in a 15-minute space. A football player was
allowed to tease a girl about her breasts in class without fear of
retribution by his teacher, also the boy's coach."
"Increasingly, as parents and students replay images of life at
Columbine, they are freeze-framing on injustices suffered at the hands
of athletes, wondering aloud why almost no one -- not teachers, not
administrators, not coaches, not most students, not parents -- took
the problem seriously."
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Geode
> In article <3cp1mn.ci6.1...@news.alt.net>
>
> > A very Merry Christmas to all!
>
>
When I was child in school, they use to bull and insult the lames,
those humpbacked, those that were blind, deaf, or with any deformity.
Not only they insulted and mocked to those, but also they mocked the
blacks, Asians, the weak and anyone with a foreign accent. I was one
of those with a foreign accent. I am still resenting this
opprobrium.
A theory says, that if parents did not taught their kids to respect
all sort of freaks, the school has to do it for them.
It is, unless we think is a good thing to educate children for the
next Armageddon that some announce for the future.
Only if this future hecatomb would be a certain possibility, it would
be a good thing to teach our kids to mock and despise the people with
any perceptible difference. For they would surely would be engaged in
a murderous and bloody street warfare, slaughtering and slit throwing
each other in every corner, even in daylight, because of our
differences in race, speaking accent, color of our skin and religion.
If you think this is a future we are expecting, is better to teach our
kids in school to use knives to fight among themselves, as a way to be
prepared for the bright future that is awaiting us in a few decades.
To avoid premature deaths in school, they could practice with rubber
knifes till they are 12 or 15 years old. From this age forward, they
can use real knives, to make the learning more realistic. Some, of
course could die in the process of training, but this is unavoidable.
We have to get them get used to a lot of spilled blood on the floor.
This is nothing more than an accident of the training, like in the
army.
I think we are so many fucking people in this world that it would
explode in a future GGRWW (Great Great Real World War). This would
obliterate three fourths or more of the present pestilent humanity.
So, let's teach our kids a good hating and fighting and hitting each
others, and the use guns and knifes in school, as to be well trained
to kill and to die as a preparation for our bright future.
Our kids can start in school by hating and hitting pansies, blacks,
and Muslims, and Latins, and all sort of aliens with a foreign accent.
For one day, not far into the future, they would be hunting each other
as an obnoxious pest.
We have to chose what will be our future. It could be either love or
hate. As they say in Las Vegas, "Gentlemen, do your bets."
leopoldo
Geode
I remember now the Colombine killings. This two freaks, or perhaps was
only one, despised by the jocks of high school, were building a
retaliatory mood of hate into this adolescent, that was able to win a
collaborator to kill as much of these triumphant as possible. I do
not know if they killed any of those triumphant jocks, but they surely
killed many of those indifferent onlookers, who did not reject those
abuses.
By despising the people with a difference, you are laying the
foundations for next civil war, and for the next wave of street
crimes. Many of those serial killers, were once in school despised
and rejected, even if they were not gays or pansies.
Leopoldo
Geode
> On Dec 23, 9:37 pm, Mike Ross <m...@corestore.org> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:08:53 -0500, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> > >Have the Brits gone mad? How do they expect an 11 year old to react to some
> > >fruitcake in the school yard? The government should leave the raising of
> > >kids to the parents. No one is doing these little marys any favors by over
> > >protecting them from a little juvenile fun; they have a rough future ahead
> > >of them and it's best to toughen them up a little now.
>
> > Quite right; the school should prevent ALL pupils from bullying ANYONE. Why on
> > earth is behaviour seen to be 'acceptable' or 'just part of growing up' for kids
> > old enough to know better, when it would have serious consequences for adults?
> > Teach the Golden fucking Rule!
>
> When I was a kid I was attacked by a school bully, and later called
> into the principal's office to explain what I had done to provoke the
> attack. I don't think the bully was ever punished, because he was on
> was one of the school's sports teams.
>
>
> "The state wrestling champ was regularly permitted to park his
> $100,000 Hummer all day in a 15-minute space. A football player was
> allowed to tease a girl about her breasts in class without fear of
> retribution by his teacher, also the boy's coach."
>
> "Increasingly, as parents and students replay images of life at
> Columbine, they are freeze-framing on injustices suffered at the hands
> of athletes, wondering aloud why almost no one -- not teachers, not
> administrators, not coaches, not most students, not parents -- took
> the problem seriously."
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
This is the result of indifference to injustice and bullying. The
worse thing I saw in this case, that no one in the papers or TV even
said a word about the causes of this killing. It was like the killers
pup from hell, without any warning or known cause, like a tsunami, an
earthquake, a tornado, etc. They did not looked inward into themselves
to find what was the cause of the killing.
Leopoldo
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