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Rah Q5
May 17, 2012, 10:45:59 PM5/17/12
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Well, one, anyway! :)
Phone rang, on Mother's Day evening, about a bear down the street! Hung
up and ran down to check it out.
All I got was this, but the whole town was there and some got real nice
ones!! (sigh) Even videos!
I live in the city, so it surprised everyone! The DNR didn't have
anything to tranquilize the bear so everyone had to move back 2-3 blocks
or more and they let the bear go.
It will be back they said. And there's been many reports of other
sightings in different towns. Not the same one, I don't think.
1.
http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL1183/13438894/24106986/402566583.jpg
'
2.
http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL1183/13438894/24106986/402566585.jpg
Great Lakes region
Phone rang, on Mother's Day evening, about a bear down the street! Hung
up and ran down to check it out.
All I got was this, but the whole town was there and some got real nice
ones!! (sigh) Even videos!
I live in the city, so it surprised everyone! The DNR didn't have
anything to tranquilize the bear so everyone had to move back 2-3 blocks
or more and they let the bear go.
It will be back they said. And there's been many reports of other
sightings in different towns. Not the same one, I don't think.
1.
http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL1183/13438894/24106986/402566583.jpg
'
2.
http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL1183/13438894/24106986/402566585.jpg
Great Lakes region
Tim Conway
May 18, 2012, 10:25:44 AM5/18/12
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"Rah Q5" <Ra...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:12575-4FB...@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net...
wrong. I don't get to see too many of them around here...south central PA
USA. ps. not too bad a shot.
notbob
May 18, 2012, 11:00:30 AM5/18/12
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On 2012-05-18, Tim Conway <tconw...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Cool. Bears are neat. They *can* be mean though if you approach them
> wrong.
I live in the CO Rockies. Lotsa bears. And people who think bears
> Cool. Bears are neat. They *can* be mean though if you approach them
> wrong.
are neat and go, "Ooh... lookie!", are putting themselves in as much
danger as they are endangering the bear.
I too, did that, at first. Oh cool! A bear. By the 4th yr, a bear
discovered we had unopened dog kibble in our shed. It figured out how
to open the door. I locked the door. The bear returned and tore the
entire hasp/lock clean off the door. I nailed (8" spikes) a 2x12
across the door. Bear returned again and tore the entire door completely
off the shed and yanked our small chest freezer into the yard,
destroying the freezer and scattering frozen food far and wide.
Finally hadda call Dept of Wildlife (DOW), who came out, caught the
bear, and had it put down. You see, it was the bear's 2nd offense.
In CO, two strikes and the bear is DEAD! I was not happy about that,
but I now understand why.
If ppl allow a bear to continue to lurk in neighborhoods and maraud
garbage cans, thinking, "lookie, a bear!", they are enabling that
bear. That bear WILL become bolder, and someone is gonna get hurt or
the bear is gonna be killed. Last Summer, two ppl were killed by
bears within 10 miles of my residence. If you see a bear, call your
DOW and get that bear relocated, tout de suite. Bears are not cool or
cute or neat or whatever. They are potentially very dangerous
animals. The life you save may be your own ...or the bears.
nb
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PeterN
May 18, 2012, 11:39:53 AM5/18/12
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mentioned that the bear I was shooting had just stolen some fish from
the creel of a fisherman. I wold have given a lot to get a shot of the
fisherman's face when it happened.
You are correct, but you comment should not be limited to bears. What
you say applies to all wildlife. They must be approached with caution,
respect and understanding of their habits.
--
Peter
Alan Browne
May 18, 2012, 4:09:50 PM5/18/12
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http://www.google.ca/search?q=falling+bear&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=B3y2T6LYC9Heggf_gJnSCg&ved=0CGYQsAQ&biw=1177&bih=1079
aka "Falling Bear"
Unfortunately, the bear came back (after being moved far away) and was
hit by a car.
--
"A person with a new idea is a crank until the idea succeeds."
-Samuel Clemens.
Alan Browne
May 18, 2012, 4:12:09 PM5/18/12
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French tourists moving toward a black bear. It was trying to go 90° to
the group but they kept angling towards it.
I started clapping my hands loudly which stopped the tourists and urged
the bear cross the trail and go off to wherever he wanted to go in the
first place. The tourists started nattering in French about what a
prick I was. Then they discovered my more colorful abilities in both
French Canadian and Parisian French (with appropriate accent changes).
Ruined my bear photo op too.
Savageduck
May 18, 2012, 4:52:42 PM5/18/12
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On 2012-05-18 13:12:09 -0700, Alan Browne
Yup! My bear close encounter was also up at Sequoia NP, at the
Lodgepole Campground, there was also an idiot involved in that.
I had a rental RV parked in a slot right next to the creek. It was
getting dark, and I took our old Lab for a walk. By the time I circled
back it was dark and my return path took me through some tent sites. I
heard this very destructive noise coming from my right, so I lit up the
are with my flashlight. Some 12 feet to my right was a big black bear
tearing through the food at a tent camp site. I was close enough to see
blue and red tags on the right ear. I held my dog back on her leash,
and started shouting and making a noise. A camper at an adjacent site
made noise by banging pans together. The bear ran off across the creek
and had taken a Tupperware container of milk with it.
The idiot was the camper who left the food out and vulnerable. By
lighting up the other side of the creek with a spotlight, I could see
the bear had moved on and had left the tupperware container in the
open. I asked the camper if he wanted to retrieve his container. He
said he did. So I led the way across the creek. As I reached the
opposite bank I turned to find the idiot holding a snub-nose S&W 38. I
blew my stack. All a 38 would have done would be to piss off the bear.
There was also the possibility that he could have stumbled and shot me
in the back. Back in those days it was illegal to carry firearms in
National Parks. I advised him of the law. Hell! I had to keep my off
duty weapon secured in the RV, and even today while firearms are
permitted within National Parks, State laws still apply, and you cannot
take a firearm into any of the NP or government facilities/offices in
the parks.
Needless to say, he had broken camp, and was gone before the ranger
came around in the morning.
The next morning I reported the encounter to a ranger. The ranger told
me that they knew the bear from my description of the ear tags, and
this particular bear had a vehicle break-in MO. It would take a claw
and run it under the edge of the windshield, and then pop the glass out
to gain entry via the now gapping entry. The ranger also told me that
my encounter would result in a kill order for this bear, which was a
380 Lb. female. It had been relocated on two other occasions.
At Sequoia-Kings Canyon NP they have bear lockers for camper's food,
and even those folks with RVs are advised to use them. If you stay at
one of the lodges, never leave any snacks or toiletries in your car, as
you will find it torn apart the next morning.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Lodgepole Campground, there was also an idiot involved in that.
I had a rental RV parked in a slot right next to the creek. It was
getting dark, and I took our old Lab for a walk. By the time I circled
back it was dark and my return path took me through some tent sites. I
heard this very destructive noise coming from my right, so I lit up the
are with my flashlight. Some 12 feet to my right was a big black bear
tearing through the food at a tent camp site. I was close enough to see
blue and red tags on the right ear. I held my dog back on her leash,
and started shouting and making a noise. A camper at an adjacent site
made noise by banging pans together. The bear ran off across the creek
and had taken a Tupperware container of milk with it.
The idiot was the camper who left the food out and vulnerable. By
lighting up the other side of the creek with a spotlight, I could see
the bear had moved on and had left the tupperware container in the
open. I asked the camper if he wanted to retrieve his container. He
said he did. So I led the way across the creek. As I reached the
opposite bank I turned to find the idiot holding a snub-nose S&W 38. I
blew my stack. All a 38 would have done would be to piss off the bear.
There was also the possibility that he could have stumbled and shot me
in the back. Back in those days it was illegal to carry firearms in
National Parks. I advised him of the law. Hell! I had to keep my off
duty weapon secured in the RV, and even today while firearms are
permitted within National Parks, State laws still apply, and you cannot
take a firearm into any of the NP or government facilities/offices in
the parks.
Needless to say, he had broken camp, and was gone before the ranger
came around in the morning.
The next morning I reported the encounter to a ranger. The ranger told
me that they knew the bear from my description of the ear tags, and
this particular bear had a vehicle break-in MO. It would take a claw
and run it under the edge of the windshield, and then pop the glass out
to gain entry via the now gapping entry. The ranger also told me that
my encounter would result in a kill order for this bear, which was a
380 Lb. female. It had been relocated on two other occasions.
At Sequoia-Kings Canyon NP they have bear lockers for camper's food,
and even those folks with RVs are advised to use them. If you stay at
one of the lodges, never leave any snacks or toiletries in your car, as
you will find it torn apart the next morning.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Alan Browne
May 18, 2012, 5:02:07 PM5/18/12
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> All a 38 would have done would be to piss off the bear. There was also
> the possibility that he could have stumbled and shot me in the back.
> Back in those days it was illegal to carry firearms in National Parks. I
> advised him of the law. Hell! I had to keep my off duty weapon secured
> in the RV, and even today while firearms are permitted within National
> Parks, State laws still apply, and you cannot take a firearm into any of
> the NP or government facilities/offices in the parks.
> Needless to say, he had broken camp, and was gone before the ranger came
> around in the morning.
>
> The next morning I reported the encounter to a ranger. The ranger told
> me that they knew the bear from my description of the ear tags, and this
> particular bear had a vehicle break-in MO. It would take a claw and run
> it under the edge of the windshield, and then pop the glass out to gain
> entry via the now gapping entry. The ranger also told me that my
> encounter would result in a kill order for this bear, which was a 380
> Lb. female. It had been relocated on two other occasions.
>
> At Sequoia-Kings Canyon NP they have bear lockers for camper's food, and
> even those folks with RVs are advised to use them. If you stay at one of
> the lodges, never leave any snacks or toiletries in your car, as you
> will find it torn apart the next morning.
booked full months ahead - (good thing too - quite expensive - don't
tell the SO!)). Even had to reserve the tent 2 months ahead.
Put all our food in the locked containers. They show photos of what
bears do to cars. If a bear even thinks something in a car is a
container they'll break in. No ifs.
notbob
May 18, 2012, 5:48:24 PM5/18/12
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On 2012-05-18, Alan Browne <alan....@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> Unfortunately, the bear came back (after being moved far away) and was
> hit by a car.
Yep. This big news in CO, where it happened. Probably didn't get the
> Unfortunately, the bear came back (after being moved far away) and was
> hit by a car.
bear far enough away. Failure on the part of DOW.
Bottom line: Bears and dwellers do not mix. The current buzz
word/sticker in CO is: Garbage Kills Bears
I don't wanna do harm to the local bear population, but if I have to go out
after dark, to empty garbage or whatever, I carry a loaded .44 magnum
with bear loads in it. I'd rather not, and I avoid doing so if I can,
but if I gotta, I'm no fool.
Rah Q5
May 18, 2012, 9:34:43 PM5/18/12
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>On Fri, May 18, 2012, 10:25am
> Tim Conway wrote:
>Cool. Bears are neat. They *can* be
> mean though if you approach them
> wrong. I don't get to see too many of
> them around here...south central PA
> USA. ps. not too bad a shot.
pocket camera. :)
Rah Q5
May 18, 2012, 9:39:21 PM5/18/12
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>On Fri, May 18, 2012, 4:09pm
> Alan Browne posted:
>This what you need to get as a photo:
>http://www.google.ca/search?q=falling+b
>ear&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u
>&source=univ&sa=X&ei=B3y2T6LYC9Heg
>gf_gJnSCg&ved=0CGYQsAQ&biw=1177
>&bih=1079 aka "Falling Bear"
>Unfortunately, the bear came back (after
> being moved far away) and was hit by a
> car.
Felt bad that the bear ended up dying!
Rah Q5
May 18, 2012, 9:46:49 PM5/18/12
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Thanks for your input on the bear and bears in general.
The DNR here says it will be back and for us, the city, to be on the
alert and let them know of any sightings.
There have been many, in different areas and I don't think its the same
bear, but several because of the distance.
But the DNR here does not have any kind of tranquilizer on hand but
would like to capture the bear for further study, and maybe a neck
device to monitor its whereabouts.
So, I'll be watching my back when going out at night, and not leaving
any food in the car, either!! Thanks for all the tips!!
Great Lakes region
The DNR here says it will be back and for us, the city, to be on the
alert and let them know of any sightings.
There have been many, in different areas and I don't think its the same
bear, but several because of the distance.
But the DNR here does not have any kind of tranquilizer on hand but
would like to capture the bear for further study, and maybe a neck
device to monitor its whereabouts.
So, I'll be watching my back when going out at night, and not leaving
any food in the car, either!! Thanks for all the tips!!
Great Lakes region
tony cooper
May 18, 2012, 10:20:47 PM5/18/12
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are a problem in this area. Not in my neighborhood, but within a
couple of miles of my house. A man going into his garage late at
night surprised a black bear raiding his garbage a few weeks ago, and
was mauled (but not seriously) by the bear. The bear wanted out of
the garage, and the man was between where the bear was and where the
bear wanted to be.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
Savageduck
May 18, 2012, 11:10:51 PM5/18/12
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developed areas. We are the intruders after all.
When you live on the fringes of the wilderness and/or in relatively
rural areas, encounters with wildlife are not uncommon. Bears are a
little more common just South of me, but out here at Lake Nacimiento, I
have plenty of local mountain lion, coyote, foxes, bobcats, deer, elk,
raccoons, possum, wild pigs, etc. It is always best avoid contact and
interaction with any wild animals.
Man is far more dangerous, and a greater threat to all of those.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Alan Browne
May 19, 2012, 10:24:07 AM5/19/12
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The "fall" was into an air bed of some sort. No harm at all.
ray
May 21, 2012, 2:52:59 PM5/21/12
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http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/67579925/1/rayc?h=d534a5
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