> Except I don't want to spend all day rebuilding software. I often > ran into situations where the software was perfect ( in theory ) but > distro A didn't support mono, didn't have the needed KDE libraries,
Strange. I run Kubuntu 7.04, which has everything I need. No compilation required.
On Jun 7, 7:43 am, f...@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:
> Plus, Eric is bullshitting. The first Slackware release > ran a Linux 0.99p11 kernel.
The 1.0 release had 0.99p11, but I assure you that the 15+ disks downloaded one at a time in 1992 did not have 0.99p11 since it was not released yet. Unfortunately it's hard to find accurate information on those fleeting pre-1.0 slackware installs.
Google: slackware kernel-0.96
I would point to the linux counter project entry, but it appears to be offline at this time.
> I'm a hobbiest / advanced amateur shooter with strong computer > background.
> Recently I tried to dump Windows for Linux including using it for > photography work. Unless you plan on shooting .jpg all the time it's > not there yet. No amount of fidgeting would allow for me to do very > simple RAW conversion and touchups without spending for too much time.
> Needless to say I did succeed in dumping Windows because I ended up > springing for an Apple. Lightroom is just about the best I have seen > for simple, effective, and powerful RAW workflows.
> If anyone has any positive views on Linux + RAW I would love to hear > from you.
Ok, just installed Ubuntu 7.04 and added digikam and ufraw to make sure that I wasn't missing anything. I copied over a folder full of .crw files and attempted to do some simple work in both DigiKam and UFRaw.
Those who claim that either rises to even the level of Picasa under windows are sorely mistaken.
Digikam: Does not auto-rotate. Colors are poorly corrected. Interface uses a mish-mosh of single and double click actions. Edit window is non-intuative. No non-destructive editing. No undo. No workflow
UFRaw: Just as I remembered. No previews in the open dialog. Limited correction ability. Inability to zoom past 50%. Inability to pan around image when zoomed larger than display.
Ubuntu: Does not render thumbnails in nautilus.
I will give it another spin tonight to see if I've missed anything, but I stand by my conclusions.
Eric <eri...@gmail.com> wrote: >On Jun 5, 12:09 pm, Eric <eri...@gmail.com> wrote: ... >> If anyone has any positive views on Linux + RAW I would love to hear >> from you.
>Ok, just installed Ubuntu 7.04 and added digikam and ufraw to make >sure that I wasn't missing anything. I copied over a folder full >of .crw files and attempted to do some simple work in both DigiKam and >UFRaw.
>Those who claim that either rises to even the level of Picasa under >windows are sorely mistaken.
>Digikam: Does not auto-rotate. Colors are poorly corrected. >Interface uses a mish-mosh of single and double click actions. Edit >window is non-intuative. No non-destructive editing. No undo. No >workflow
>UFRaw: Just as I remembered. No previews in the open dialog. Limited >correction ability. Inability to zoom past 50%. Inability to pan >around image when zoomed larger than display.
You really are grasping at straws, aren't you! There is no "open dialog" with UFRAW so there of course are no previews. Thank goodness too! The last thing I want is to have an image manipulation program waste time and cpu on opening/creating a thumbnail of *every* image in a directory!
Why anyone would want more than 50% zoom or the ability to pan in a raw conversion tool is beyond me...
(I don't use or know diddly about Digikam, Ubuntu or nautilus, but I assume you comments there are just as frivolous. It does sound as if you *deserve* Windows!)
>Ubuntu: Does not render thumbnails in nautilus.
>I will give it another spin tonight to see if I've missed anything, >but I stand by my conclusions.
On Jun 13, 5:17 pm, f...@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:
> You really are grasping at straws, aren't you! There is > no "open dialog" with UFRAW so there of course are no
So what do you call the dialog that pops up when you click on the UFRaw program? It's got a list of places on the left and a file/ directory selection area on the right. On every other application it's called....
The "Open Dialog"
Do you need a friggin screen shot, you click on UFRaw and you when select the file.
What camera do you have? Digikam does rotate with my Canon EOS 350D.
> Colors are poorly corrected.
I'm curous about this. Can you post two corrections of the same photo, one done by a program you like and one done by Digikam? I like to train my eye to recognise bad corrections. By the way, did you read http://www.stuvel.eu/archive/53/better-raw-decoding-with-digikam ?
> Interface uses a mish-mosh of single and double click actions.
Weird, I only click once on everything.
> Edit window is non-intuative.
What exactly is non-intuative? What would you improve? It's Open Source after all, and I like to get suggestions on how to improve Digikam.
> No non-destructive editing.
You mean working in layers? Yeah, I miss that too. Then again, if I need more fine-grained editing I move to The Gimp.
> No undo.
Edit -> Undo. What's there not to undo?
> No workflow
What do you mean with this?
> UFRaw: [snipped true things that I'm not that interested in] > Inability to pan around image when zoomed larger than display.
You can move windows by pressing the ALT key and dragging the window (anywhere in the window) with the left mouse button.
> Ubuntu: Does not render thumbnails in nautilus.
Doesn't it render thumbnails in general? Or does it only have issues with certain file types?
> Thank goodness too! The last thing I want is to have an image > manipulation program waste time and cpu on opening/creating a > thumbnail of *every* image in a directory!
I like thumbnails. It gives me a LOT more information than IMG_XYZ.CR2 does. That's why I open image manipulation programs from Digikam, which does show thumbnails.
Eric <eri...@gmail.com> wrote: >On Jun 13, 5:17 pm, f...@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote: >> You really are grasping at straws, aren't you! There is >> no "open dialog" with UFRAW so there of course are no
>So what do you call the dialog that pops up when you click on the >UFRaw program? It's got a list of places on the left and a file/ >directory selection area on the right. On every other application >it's called....
>The "Open Dialog"
>Do you need a friggin screen shot, you click on UFRaw and you when >select the file.
I don't use a click/drag Windows interface. It's just too slow. Hence I *never* "click on UFRAW".
As a result I had never run UFRAW without specifying a filename (or list) on the command line. It is of little value, and if it showed previews that would be even worse!
Eric wrote: > On Jun 5, 6:44 pm, Koekje <koe...@example.com> wrote: >> My workflow is 100% Linux. With Digikam I can convert RAW files in a >> heartbeat. Opening a RAW is like opening any other file. After editing >> I save as JPEG without a fuss. Digikam also has batch conversion >> support if that's your thing.
>> Koekje
> DigiKam 0.9.0+ added support for RAW. Looking over distrowatch I see > that only the unstable ubuntu 7.05 and derivatives bundle that > version. Maybe in a year or two it wil be more widely available.
As a point of reference - Fedora 7 has dcraw-8.53 and digikam-0.9.1 as standard packages... comes on the standard (down-loadable) CD/DVD and updates are handled via yum. Fedora 7 has been available for a couple of weeks now. Installation from DVD is easy, even for non-linux types.
As for usability for a desktop (non-server) machine... I've been using a Compaq nx7000 laptop running Fedora Core 6 for the last year or so as my primary machine. As Principal Associate with my company, communicating with customers / clients is extremely important. Many use Microsoft Office as their "standard" office suite and document interchange format. I seamlessly communicate with them using OpenOffice for Word documents, Excel spreadsheets, and Powerpoint presentations. I also have MS Visio and MS Project installed and operating perfectly under CrossOver Office.
I do alot of traveling with my laptop and connecting to various wireless networks is a snap. So folks who claim "limited word processing" are simply showing they are not aware of where Linux distributions are today.
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