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Robert Spanjaard

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Jan 6, 2010, 7:45:29 AM1/6/10
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I just did my _second_ snow shoot last weekend, around 2 AM on Sunday:

http://www.arumes.com/temp/sd_winternacht

But I did have a fucking clue what I was going to shoot. :-)

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Regards, Robert http://www.arumes.com

philo

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Jan 6, 2010, 7:55:02 AM1/6/10
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Robert Spanjaard wrote:
> I just did my _second_ snow shoot last weekend, around 2 AM on Sunday:
>
> http://www.arumes.com/temp/sd_winternacht
>
> But I did have a fucking clue what I was going to shoot. :-)
>

Beautiful!!!!

Markus Fuenfrocken

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Jan 6, 2010, 8:57:32 AM1/6/10
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Robert Spanjaard wrote:
> I just did my _second_ snow shoot last weekend, around 2
> AM on Sunday:
> http://www.arumes.com/temp/sd_winternacht

Most excellent! Thanks for sharing!

Regards,
Markus
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celcius

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Jan 6, 2010, 9:51:18 AM1/6/10
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"Robert Spanjaard" <spam...@arumes.com> wrote in message
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Great shots, Robert!
Please tell. There must have been quite a moon that night.... it was so
clear!
I tried to download the photos to see their exif... to no avail (flash
player). But, can you tell us please the camera you used as well as other
useful info such as ISO, f stop, white balance, etc.
Thanks,
Marcel

Robert Spanjaard

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:26:07 AM1/6/10
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On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:51:18 -0500, celcius wrote:

> "Robert Spanjaard" <spam...@arumes.com> wrote in message
> news:2436e$4b4485e9$546accd9$17...@cache70.multikabel.net...
>> I just did my _second_ snow shoot last weekend, around 2 AM on Sunday:
>>
>> http://www.arumes.com/temp/sd_winternacht
>>
>> But I did have a fucking clue what I was going to shoot. :-)
>>
>> --
>> Regards, Robert
>> http://www.arumes.com
>
> Great shots, Robert!
> Please tell. There must have been quite a moon that night.... it was so
> clear!

Yes, there was. That's why I went out in the middle of the night. :-)

And in case someone wonders about the orange light: it's from street
lights in nearby villages.

> I tried to download the photos to see their exif... to no avail (flash
> player). But, can you tell us please the camera you used as well as
> other useful info such as ISO, f stop, white balance, etc.

The camera was a Canon EOS 10D, and the lens a Sigma 10-20mm.
All images except number 4 were shot at 100 ISO, 30 seconds, and f/4.
But I shot most of them two or three times so I could average them to
decrease the noise a bit. So I guess you could say that the shutter speed
varies from 30 to 90 seconds.

Number 4 was shot at f/10 because I absolutely wanted the foreground
branches to be as sharp as the background. The effective shutter speed in
this one was 180 seconds (6x30s), which explains the (longer) startrails.

White balance is a bit on the blue side, because that's how I like to
display a moon-lit landscape. In fact, you can still see that I corrected
the white balance of number 9 because it was too warm the first time. I
didn't bother to correct the thumbnail, so it still has a more neutral
white balance. :-)

Charles E Hardwidge

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Jan 6, 2010, 6:44:51 PM1/6/10
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"Robert Spanjaard" <spam...@arumes.com> wrote in message
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> I just did my _second_ snow shoot last weekend, around 2 AM on Sunday:
>
> http://www.arumes.com/temp/sd_winternacht
>
> But I did have a fucking clue what I was going to shoot. :-)

Some ace shots there. The level of skill and preparation is a notches above
mine so I'm not even going to argue that. If I'd sorted the tripod, took
more photos, and put myself around a bit more I'm sure I would've done
better but I didn't. Having a clue is one thing but talent and putting the
time in is something else and, well, the results speak for themselves.

One thing I did notice from a subjective taste POV is the ratio is roughly
the same for stuff that makes the cut. I'm going to take that as a rough
indicator that I've got enough of an eye and savvy that more practice is
worth investing in. As per Kung-fu and Zen if you have the right form and
balance, and focus and detachment, success unfolds on its own.

Well, that's a great start to the year.

--
Charles E Hardwidge

Peter

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Jan 6, 2010, 7:42:38 PM1/6/10
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"Robert Spanjaard" <spam...@arumes.com> wrote in message
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Your shots are well exposed, sharp representations of what you saw. It is
extremely difficult to get the right exposure on snow, but you seem to have
done it. To my eye though, I would have liked to see some center of interest
or pattern in the landscapes. You are close with the shot of the three pine
trees with the bramble in the foreground. Keep up your efforts, you have a
lot of potential.


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Peter

Robert Coe

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:05:57 PM1/6/10
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On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 13:45:29 +0100, Robert Spanjaard <spam...@arumes.com>
wrote:
: I just did my _second_ snow shoot last weekend, around 2 AM on Sunday:

:
: http://www.arumes.com/temp/sd_winternacht
:
: But I did have a fucking clue what I was going to shoot. :-)

Jowohl! Sehr sch�n!

Bob

Robert Coe

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:13:32 PM1/6/10
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On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 19:42:38 -0500, "Peter" <pete...@nospamoptonline.net>
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: "Robert Spanjaard" <spam...@arumes.com> wrote in message

<chuckle!> If Robert has "potential", I will seriously enjoy seeing what he
produces when he actually gets good at it! ;^)

Bob

Robert Spanjaard

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:08:30 AM1/7/10
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On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:42:38 -0500, Peter wrote:

>>I just did my _second_ snow shoot last weekend, around 2 AM on Sunday:
>>
>> http://www.arumes.com/temp/sd_winternacht
>>
>> But I did have a fucking clue what I was going to shoot. :-)
>

> Your shots are well exposed, sharp representations of what you saw. It
> is extremely difficult to get the right exposure on snow, but you seem
> to have done it. To my eye though, I would have liked to see some center
> of interest or pattern in the landscapes. You are close with the shot of
> the three pine trees with the bramble in the foreground.

I'm aware of that, and working on it.

> Keep up your efforts, you have a lot of potential.

Thanks for your comments, Peter. Ofcourse I like getting compliments, but
constructive criticism is even better. It'll help me getting even more
compliments in the future. :-)

Paul Furman

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Jan 11, 2010, 2:36:43 PM1/11/10
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Peter wrote:
> Robert Spanjaard wrote
>
>> I just did my _second_ snow shoot last weekend, around 2 AM on Sunday:
>>
>> http://www.arumes.com/temp/sd_winternacht
>
> ...I would have liked to see some center

> of interest or pattern in the landscapes. You are close with the shot of
> the three pine trees with the bramble in the foreground...

Good points. The first shot is really nice and has more of an overall
texture than a discrete subject. I suppose you could call it pattern,
and I suppose the clouds are centers of interest but my eyes rest on the
overall near-symmetry with the clouds & shadows acting as a relief to
let my eyes wander and explore. The shadows provide enough foreground
interest to suit the wide angle but generally it's good to have maybe a
little more going on in the foreground, which most of those do have. The
last one has this foreground/wideangle thing working nicely but the
first is still my favorite of the set. Thanks for sharing.

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Paul Furman
www.edgehill.net
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