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So if there is no Kodachrome, is there still Ectachrome?

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mm

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Jun 30, 2009, 1:50:42 AM6/30/09
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So if there is no Kodachrome, is there still Ectachrome? (sp?)

I presume there is still Kodacolor. From this totally amateur's
perspective, what was good about Kodachrome wasn't it's great color,
which I knew little about, but that it made slides. So did Ectachrome,
but it was faster. I knew I was losing some color accuracy, but it
was faster.

I like slides for showing detail. Pictures from airplanes of the
cities I'm taking off from or landing into. Pictures of the Wright
brothers plane where I can show it on the wall 3 feet by 5 feet, so
big I can see every guy wire and any other little thing. No amount
of enlarging on a computer monitor is as good as that.

So is there still slide film available, from Kodak, or anyone else?


And btw, the NPR and tv stories gave examples of magazine covers and
all kinds of things shot with Kodachrome. Why did they use a slide
film to do that and not a negative film? HOw do they print to paper
from a slide film. Doesn't it take an extra step, with accompanying
loss of detail and color accuracy?

Noons

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Jun 30, 2009, 1:58:05 AM6/30/09
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On Jun 30, 3:50 pm, mm <NOPSAMmm2...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

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> So is there still slide film available, from Kodak, or anyone else?

You don't go out much, do you?


dadiOH

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Jun 30, 2009, 6:52:03 AM6/30/09
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mm wrote:

> So is there still slide film available, from Kodak, or anyone else?

Yes

> And btw, the NPR and tv stories gave examples of magazine covers and
> all kinds of things shot with Kodachrome. Why did they use a slide
> film to do that and not a negative film? HOw do they print to paper
> from a slide film. Doesn't it take an extra step, with accompanying
> loss of detail and color accuracy?

To "print to paper" a set of separations is made. A "separation" is a B&W
negative made from the transparency containing only the image for a primary
color; a filter is used to get only the primary color. Three primary colors
= three separations. The separations are then used to make the printing
plates. Using each plate with its appropriate ink color superimposes the
three impressions one on another and you now have the original image in
color but on paper. Dye transfer prints are made in a similar way.

An original color image is not necessary for the above...the separations can
be made with B&W film by making three separate exposures - each with the
proper filter - of the original subject.

Separations can be made from color prints too but printers prefer
transparencies because of the inherently greater detail. Color negatives
can also be used but require an extra step to get to the final positive
printing plate.


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mm

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Jun 30, 2009, 11:11:44 AM6/30/09
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:52:03 -0400, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com>
wrote:

>mm wrote:
>
>> So is there still slide film available, from Kodak, or anyone else?
>
>Yes
>
>> And btw, the NPR and tv stories gave examples of magazine covers and
>> all kinds of things shot with Kodachrome. Why did they use a slide
>> film to do that and not a negative film? HOw do they print to paper
>> from a slide film. Doesn't it take an extra step, with accompanying
>> loss of detail and color accuracy?
>
>To "print to paper" a set of separations is made. A "separation" is a B&W
>negative made from the transparency containing only the image for a primary
>color; a filter is used to get only the primary color. Three primary colors
>= three separations. The separations are then used to make the printing
>plates. Using each plate with its appropriate ink color superimposes the
>three impressions one on another and you now have the original image in
>color but on paper. Dye transfer prints are made in a similar way.
>
>An original color image is not necessary for the above...the separations can
>be made with B&W film by making three separate exposures - each with the
>proper filter - of the original subject.
>
>Separations can be made from color prints too but printers prefer
>transparencies because of the inherently greater detail. Color negatives
>can also be used but require an extra step to get to the final positive
>printing plate.


Sounds like a lot of effort but I'm sure it's worth it.

Thank you for your helpful reply.

Robert Coe

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Jul 4, 2009, 10:55:05 AM7/4/09
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If you don't know the answer, just say so.

Bob

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