Re: Extremism for Science and Religion.. atheism doesn't even rate a mention.. it's irrelevant to both! B^D

[fasgnadh]

On 23/02/2012 4:23 PM, micro...@hotmail.com wrote:
> It is common sense that science ought not be fighting innocent
> people's beliefs.

Science does not fight religion, atheism does, and atheism
is not science, it's an ideology with one basic idea which in
the 20th century killed over 80,000,000 people in the atheist
regimes of Lenin, Stalin Mao and Pol Pot.. far more than any
religion.

> But both sides have went to far...

Exactly, the extremes of religious theocracies (fortunately
no longer the norm, as majority religious societies around the world
have evolved free, open, tolerant, progressive, rights-based secular
democracies (something no atheist state ever managed to do).

> The extremes need to lose on both sides.


Exactly, Religious civilisations have progressively muted their
extremes (the modern secular democracies created by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS
societies are far superior to any religious society of the ancient or
medieval times) and the Atheist regimes have reduced their extremes by
collapsing catastrophically, leaving only a tiny remnant of weak,
ineffectual, irrational atheist drones, who are allowed to flog the
dead horse of Fundamentalism as a minor public service to the rest of us
(we let them delude themselves that they are slaying dragons, when
fundamentalism is already defeated by the secularism the moderate
religious majority installed to ENSURE freedom of thought and belief,
including non-belief. ;-).

[See Bukakke for an example of pathological Tilting at Windmills,
a la Don Quixote! B^]


> Mitchell Raemsch





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The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it,
including all the ones who eagerly embraced Dawkin's
even more enthusiastic endorsement of atheist Gods he claims
'came into being'(sic)

From his book Launch:

"A few years ago it struck me that there is a resource
that is a provider of Wisdom, and consolation,
and an ethical framework, and it's rather fascinating and
has dominated the mental landscape of human beings for thousands of years
I'm thinking, of course, of religion.

And the problem is, I'm an atheist."

Yes, that's certainly a problem for any atheist! B^D

or for anyone living in any of the atheist regimes they ran! B^[

"Not just a bit of an atheist, I really am an atheist."

You make it sound like you expect people not to believe atheists!

B^D

"So, this doesn't, in a way, make me an ideal cantidate to write
about religion, but at some point it did strike me that religions
cannot be, in the words of Christopher Hitchins, "the source of
the poison of everything", it's implausible, they've been around
for thousands of years, they reflect the collaborative intelligences
and sensitivities of millions of people and the idea that everything
to do with them is false and wicked just didn't start to stand up to
the scrutiny I applied to it, as I thought more about the subject.

So, that's really the fruit of my thinking"


That religion is really the source of so so many good and useful
contributions to civilisation that Hitchin's malicious lies just
don't stand up.. 8^o and as atheism is devoid of anything
worthwhile itself, it needs to STEAL some of the many great ideas
religion has to offer:


" my new book,Religion for Atheists is a deliberate attempt
to look at a number of areas where I believe that religions
have things to offer for non-believers"

Sure, Truth, Love, Compassion, Justice, Sincerity, Charity,
Mercy, Courage, Integrity..
all the virtues atheism lacks, and doesn't even understand, all
the spiritual values that atheists reject completely...


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" ..and perhaps believers know about these things already,
but for non-believers I wanted to look at that."

"It strikes me that at the moment the world is really divided into
believers and non-believers and the debate has become at times very
fierce, there are people, some of whom live in North Oxford who
have suggested not only that religion is unbelievable but also
that it's ridiculous, and that people who believe in anything are
simpletons, maniacs .. people who must be lectured at, to remove
the folly of their intellectual errors."


We all know the "person from North Oxford" he's criticising for
being such an arrogant, rabid demagogue with extreme views, is
Richard Dawkins B^]

"That's not really my approach, I think such an approach is sterile,
I don't think one makes progress"

True, Dawkins extreme militancy and all the money spent on Bus
ad lies to proselytise for new atheist converts never worked!

"It doesn't strike me that this is really a productive way
to go forward."

Mate, I have been telling the dimwitted Dawkinite Drones that
for YEARS now! But they are completely blind to reason! B^D

" How do you live a good life outside of a religious structure?

Well that's silly, when the good life you want to emulate
exists WITHIN that moral framework and claims that the SPIRITUAL
values are what brings life to the attempts at self-transformation!

It's like you want the Light from a lightbulb, using only
the physical MATTER, not invisible, electromagnetic ENERGY! B^D

It's been tried in EVERY atheist state and failed! B^]

How can these atheist 'thinkers' be so dumb?

"This is THE question facing modern society, and we haven't
necessarily answered it that well."

You atheists have NEVER answered it, B^D but the majority
religious societies that you want to emulate clearly have! B^]

"I think it's a legitimate question and my book is an
attempt to answer that question."

Sure, the hilarious part is that you think atheism needs
to copy religion ...because it HAS the answer already!!!!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!

Just what Dawkins, Bukakke, Vurgil and all the other
ex-atheist believers are trying to do! ;-)

Except, THEY are copying the BELIEFs in Supernatural Beings,
i.e. they are FABRICATING GODS to WORSHIP! (Just
like every atheist tyranny tried to do with political cultism ;-)

Whereas De Botton wants to steal the PRAXIS of religion: B^D

"My starting point is to say that we should learn to STEAL from
religions."

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAA!

Priceless! The starting point for Atheist 'philosophy' is
that having no ideas of their own the unoriginal atheists
need to pinch the ideas of the, more successful, religious!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA




"you know some people have accused me of advocating a
'pick and mix'approach to religions, and I say you know what?
you're absolutely right, that's completely what I'm doing,
a pick and mix approach.

Some people have said 'religion's are not a buffet, from which
you can go round choosing the best bits', and my answer is yes they are.
And that's precidsely what I'm doing. So i've taken my plate,
and I've gone round the different faiths, and I've done precisely that."

- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012


http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm

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-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

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[Sam Wormley]

On 3/31/12 5:46 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
> Science does not fight religion, atheism does, and atheism
> is not science, it's an ideology with one basic idea which in
> the 20th century killed over 80,000,000 people in the atheist
> regimes of Lenin, Stalin Mao and Pol Pot.. far more than any
> religion.

Atheist mean one without a theology! Theists and non theists.
One is no more or less moral than the other.

[Uirgil]

In article <%OLdr.5221$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>,

fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 23/02/2012 4:23 PM, micro...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > It is common sense that science ought not be fighting innocent
> > people's beliefs.
>
> Science does not fight religion, atheism does, and atheism
> is not science, it's an ideology

Not so! Anti-theism,being the belief that no gods exist, is as
ideological as theism but a-theism, being only absence of both theism
and anti-theism, has no ideology at all.

[be...@iwaynet.net]

Wormley, you couldn't get a thought straight in your dumb head if your
life depended on it...and in this case it probably does more than you know!

Sure, Sam, you love Uncle Joe and all he stood for, but it's high time
you realized what is going on here.

Generally speaking theists HAVE a theology, and Atheists have a theology
too! As usual, Wormley, your head is totally up your ass.
"Athesim" comes from a the greek root Theos meaning "a GOD" hence it
means one without a GOD, not one without a "theology". Is reading a
dictionary too much for you Dr. Wormley?

OK. Let's get down to it. The tenets of most religions and atheism are
quite polar opposites. I won't discuss various religions in detail, but
they all pretty much hold similar views about the following:

Atheist believe the following:

1. There is no "God" which is to say higher being or consciousness or
intelligence behind the universe.

2. Hence, all things happen simply by random "chance" and this makes
Evolution as the creator of mankind a "fact".

3. All life resides in the chemicals and physics of the body and brain.
When the body dies, all life and consciousness ceases. Science is said
to have proved this.

4. For these reasons there is no persistence of consciousness nor of any
after-effects of any act committed while alive. Hence no "afterlife", no
Heaven, no Hell and no "punishments" or "rewards"

5. This means that there are NO laws of morality. Murder, theft, lies,
fraud, rape, perversion, or any other act which religion views as crimes
or "sin" are no different from any other acts and are simply expressions
of natural selection for man. History shows this is true.

6. Hence, it's all about survival of the fittest. If you see something
you want and have the strength or the intelligence to steal it, you take
it. If someone gets in your way, you kill them. If you are in business
to make money, if you lie and cheat your dumber customers, it's just YOU
creating a better species for all of us.

7. And when you die like the lion on the plane, you leave it all behind
and pass into nothingness as a new generation takes up evolution of the
species.

8. That is pretty much it, and establishment science and scientists have
pretty much proved and verified all these tenets to their own
satisfaction. This is why it is so important that religious concepts be
kept out of science.


But to say that atheism and theism are equally moral is certainly to
misrepresent the fundamental truths of atheism. I'd expect nothing less
from Wormley.

[Christopher A. Lee]

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>2. Hence, all things happen simply by random "chance" and this makes
>Evolution as the creator of mankind a "fact".

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>3. All life resides in the chemicals and physics of the body and brain.
>When the body dies, all life and consciousness ceases. Science is said
>to have proved this.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>4. For these reasons there is no persistence of consciousness nor of any
>after-effects of any act committed while alive. Hence no "afterlife", no
>Heaven, no Hell and no "punishments" or "rewards"

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>5. This means that there are NO laws of morality. Murder, theft, lies,
>fraud, rape, perversion, or any other act which religion views as crimes
>or "sin" are no different from any other acts and are simply expressions
>of natural selection for man. History shows this is true.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>6. Hence, it's all about survival of the fittest. If you see something
>you want and have the strength or the intelligence to steal it, you take
>it. If someone gets in your way, you kill them. If you are in business
>to make money, if you lie and cheat your dumber customers, it's just YOU
>creating a better species for all of us.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>7. And when you die like the lion on the plane, you leave it all behind
>and pass into nothingness as a new generation takes up evolution of the
>species.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>8. That is pretty much it, and establishment science and scientists have
>pretty much proved and verified all these tenets to their own
>satisfaction. This is why it is so important that religious concepts be
>kept out of science.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

>But to say that atheism and theism are equally moral is certainly to
>misrepresent the fundamental truths of atheism. I'd expect nothing less
>from Wormley.

What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

[fasgnadh]

On 1/04/2012 9:46 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:

> On 1/04/2012 8:46 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> On 23/02/2012 4:23 PM, micro...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> It is common sense that science ought not be fighting innocent
>>> people's beliefs.
>>

>> Science does not fight religion, atheism does, and atheism
>> is not science, it's an ideology with one basic idea which in
>> the 20th century killed over 80,000,000 people in the atheist
>> regimes of Lenin, Stalin Mao and Pol Pot.. far more than any
>> religion.
>>

>>> But both sides have went to far...
>>

>> Exactly, the extremes of atheist regimes in the modern era
>> and of religious theocracies (fortunately no longer the norm,

>> as majority religious societies around the world have
>> evolved free, open, tolerant, progressive, rights-based secular
>> democracies (something no atheist state ever managed to do).
>>
>

> Atheist mean one without a theology!

I agree with your definition of an atheist, especially
the ones responsible for the atheist holocaust.

But do you think 'mean one' really covers the bestial tyranny
that EVERY atheist regime in history has been? The brutality
of atheist states was exceptional.

> Theists and non theists.
> One is no more or less moral than the other.

Clearly not true, in the modern era majority theist societies
have evolved the free open, progressive, tolerant secular states
..something which no atheist regime ever did.

Unlike religion, then, the history of Atheism is one of
UNMITIGATED terror torture and Mass murder.. in EVERY atheist
state ever to curse humanity by existing!!!!

You need to develop a sense of moral judgement, fairness and balance.

[John Baker]

On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 02:39:13 -0400, "BJA...@teranews.com"
<be...@iwaynet.net> wrote:

How do you function without 'round the clock supervision?



>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Uirgil]

In article <2XSdr.5245$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>,

fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 1/04/2012 9:46 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > On 1/04/2012 8:46 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
> >> On 23/02/2012 4:23 PM, micro...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>> It is common sense that science ought not be fighting innocent
> >>> people's beliefs.
> >>
> >> Science does not fight religion, atheism does

Science fights the claims of those theists claiming that they have
objective physical evidence (scientific evidence) of the truth of their
claimed gods, angels, etc., and even more particularly those theists who
claim that Evolution is false or that there is no scientific evidence
supporting global warming.


Atheism does not in general fight religion, in that it does not declare
that gods and such do not exist, merely that they have never been proven
via objective physical evidence to exist. But atheism does deny those
claims of religions that science can prove false, such as many of the
claims made by bibliolaters.
,
> >> and atheism is not science


It is a good deal closer to science than any theist religion is.

Atheism is based on not accepting religious claims unsupported by
objective physical evidence.

Science is based on not accepting any claims unsupported by objective
physical evidence.

So atheism runs parallel to science.

[Uirgil]

In article <g5ufn71jdmmpj366a...@4ax.com>,

> >7. And when you die like the lion on the plane, you leave it all behind
> >and pass into nothingness as a new generation takes up evolution of the
> >species.
>
>

> >8. That is pretty much it, and establishment science and scientists have
> >pretty much proved and verified all these tenets to their own
> >satisfaction. This is why it is so important that religious concepts be
> >kept out of science.
>
>

> >But to say that atheism and theism are equally moral is certainly to
> >misrepresent the fundamental truths of atheism. I'd expect nothing less
> >from Wormley.
>

,

[fasgnadh]

On 1/04/2012 5:03 PM, John Baker wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 02:39:13 -0400, "BJA...@teranews.com"
> <be...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
>
>> On 3/31/2012 7:46 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> On 3/31/12 5:46 PM, fasgnadh wrote:

>>>> On 23/02/2012 4:23 PM, micro...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It is common sense that science ought not be fighting innocent
>>>>> people's beliefs.
>>>>

>>>> Science does not fight religion, atheism does, and atheism
>>>> is not science, it's an ideology with one basic idea which in
>>>> the 20th century killed over 80,000,000 people in the atheist
>>>> regimes of Lenin, Stalin Mao and Pol Pot.. far more than any
>>>> religion.
>>>>

>>>>> But both sides have went to far...
>>>>
>>>> Exactly, the extremes of religious theocracies (fortunately
>>>> no longer the norm, as majority religious societies around the world
>>>> have evolved free, open, tolerant, progressive, rights-based secular
>>>> democracies (something no atheist state ever managed to do).
>>>>
>>>>> The extremes need to lose on both sides.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Exactly, Religious civilisations have progressively muted their
>>>> extremes (the modern secular democracies created by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS
>>>> societies are far superior to any religious society of the ancient or
>>>> medieval times) and the Atheist regimes have reduced their extremes by
>>>> collapsing catastrophically, leaving only a tiny remnant of weak,
>>>> ineffectual, irrational atheist drones, who are allowed to flog the
>>>> dead horse of Fundamentalism as a minor public service to the rest of us
>>>> (we let them delude themselves that they are slaying dragons, when
>>>> fundamentalism is already defeated by the secularism the moderate
>>>> religious majority installed to ENSURE freedom of thought and belief,
>>>> including non-belief. ;-).
>>>>
>>>> [See Bukakke for an example of pathological Tilting at Windmills,
>>>> a la Don Quixote! B^]
>

Hey, if you want advice on how to cope with your condition try
alt.gone.postal, this is a discussion group not a free diagnostic unit.



# From: John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Another One Bites The Dust
# Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:07:33 -0500
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#
# Just wanted to say farewell to everyone.
# I've been giving it quite a
# lot of thought lately, and I've
# decided it's time for me to move on.
#
# I've finally reached the end of my rope.
#
# I've simply had all I can stand
@
# I just can't handle it anymore.
#
# I don't see myself continuing

# I'm going to end up going postal.


Please find enclosed

1 Envelope
1 Stamp
1 blank sheet A4 paper
1 Pencil to write your final note.
1 rope

Have a nice day. 8-)



# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We're here to talk about our own personal issues as atheists


Jung was right:


"Among all my patients in the second half of life, that is, over
thirty-five, there has not been one whose problem in the last
resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life.
It is safe to say that every one of them fell ill because
he had lost that which the living religions of every age
have given their followers, and none of them has really
been healed who did not regain his religious outlook."

-Carl G. Jung Modern Man in Search of a Soul

[RedAcer]

On 01/04/12 07:39, BJA...@teranews.com wrote:
Drivel.
Please go away and post in alt.I.am.stupid, if you must post.

[Catpain 'Merca]

Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote in
news:g5ufn71jdmmpj366a...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 02:39:13 -0400, "BJA...@teranews.com"
> <be...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
>

<mucho poo about nothing snipped>

>>But to say that atheism and theism are equally moral is certainly to
>>misrepresent the fundamental truths of atheism. I'd expect nothing less
>>from Wormley.
>
> What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.

Theism is morally impoverished compared to atheism. Atheists don't try to
blame Gawd Almrighty or teh Debbil when they goof, and they don't try to
scapegoat their faults onto the Baby Jeebus either.

Catpain 'Merca

--
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[Uirgil]

In article <UxTdr.5127$v14...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,

fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
> launched his new book "Religion for Atheists"
>

> From his book Launch:
>
> "A few years ago it struck me that there is a resource
> that is a provider of Wisdom, and consolation,
> and an ethical framework, and it's rather fascinating and
> has dominated the mental landscape of human beings for thousands of years
> I'm thinking, of course, of religion.
>
> And the problem is, I'm an atheist."
>

> "Not just a bit of an atheist, I really am an atheist."
>

> "So, this doesn't, in a way, make me an ideal cantidate to write
> about religion, but at some point it did strike me that religions
> cannot be, in the words of Christopher Hitchins, "the source of
> the poison of everything", it's implausible, they've been around
> for thousands of years, they reflect the collaborative intelligences
> and sensitivities of millions of people and the idea that everything
> to do with them is false and wicked just didn't start to stand up to
> the scrutiny I applied to it, as I thought more about the subject.
>
> So, that's really the fruit of my thinking"

> " my new book,Religion for Atheists is a deliberate attempt
> to look at a number of areas where I believe that religions
> have things to offer for non-believers"

Religions, like species, are subject to a sort of survival of the
fittest, in the long run most of the worst ones die out, but when one
takes only the good from them and leaves out the credulity, one has
Atheism at its best.

[fasgnadh]

raven1 contradicts his latest LIE by debating me!!! (Poorly! ;-):

"And here's the *other* reason why no one will debate Fasgnadh..."

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHA

Atheist 'arguments' are nothing but LIES and ad hom abuse! B^p

They stop debating me when I point that out, in detail,
and they Snip and RUN AWAY! B^]

> On 1/04/2012 8:46 AM, fasgnadh wrote:

>> On 23/02/2012 4:23 PM, micro...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> It is common sense that science ought not be fighting innocent
>>> people's beliefs.
>>
>> Science does not fight religion, atheism does,

> Stop right there. "Atheism" doesn't do anything.

Bullshit you lying atheist stooge, you have ALREADY confessed
the REALITY of atheist states, and they slaughtered MILLIONS: 8^o

# From: raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir
# and Kelsey Bjarnyard? B^D
# Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
# Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7...@4ax.com>
#
#
# > raven1 wrote:
# >
# >> Even under officially atheistic regimes such as Stalin's,

Every atheist regime in history has been a totalitarian tyranny
torturing, terrorising and killing over 80,000,000 people in a
brief period of seven decades before they CATASTROPHICALLY
collapsed and religious freedoms were restored!

> Atheists do.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAA

How asinine do lying atheists think people are:

"Nazism doesn't do anything, Nazis do" pfffft!

Atheists, acting together, implement atheist suppression of religion and
persecution of believers.. they did so in EVERY ATHEIST
STATE EVER TO EXIST!!!!

Like Nazis, THEY WILL NEVER BE GIVEN ANOTHER SHOT AT IT! B^[

Game, Set, ..MATCH! B^]

> Most atheists, BTW, would be happy to ignore religion as
> long as it isn't shoved in our faces.

What complete bullshit, atheists have the SAME rights and freedoms
as theists in the modern, free, open, tolerant, progressive secular
democracies created, in EVERY INSTANCE, by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS
societies.. it is in the ATHEIST TYRANNIES where theists have
not just the atheist attitudes and beliefs but the Black Boot ot
terror, torture and mass murder, 'shoved in their face"

All you wining little atheists bitches have to moan about endlessly
in alt.atheism is having friends relatives and the wider society
celebrate Christmas, which you rabid Dogs PISS ON every year and
while you HYPOCRITES whine if a few fundies 'threaten'(sic) you with
with an afterlife (which you don't believe in) in Hell (which you
don't believe in) , while your violent, psychopathic hate filled inciter
of slaughter, Warlord(sic) Steve makes DEATH THREATS: 8^o

# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#

# We kill theists and shit down their throats
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA

"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"

- Lenin, 1st Atheist State leader, Militant Atheist role model.

Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE of every
Muslim man woman and child, just for believing in something
the Atheist thugs want to prohibit again, freedom of thought and belief;

# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>

# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
# Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv...@4ax.com>
# Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
#
# On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
# <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
#
# It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
# The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA

That is no Idle threat, as the slaughter at Oikos University, a
religious college offering studies in theology, music, and nursing
and the PREVIOUS atheist mass murders in EVERY atheist regime in history
PROVES:


# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
#
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,
# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
#
#
# "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia’s Buddhist religion:
# monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
# Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
# other religious sentiments were often killed.
# ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
# and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
# and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
# starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
# prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
# instead of the family.
#
# About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
# were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot’s regime."
# - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html
#
# The Cambodian Genocide:
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millones.jpg

#
# "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
# regarded by the regime as social parasites,
# were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
# Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
# destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
# Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
# rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
# or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
# were often killed.
#
# The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
# persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
# Phnom Penh was completely razed.
#
# The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
# regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
# Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
# - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm
#
# "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
# because of their religion."
#
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/CANDEMIELDA/44camboyano.jpg

#
#
# "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
# - Daniel Peris,
# "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
# Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
#
#
# "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
# countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
# Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
# Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
# promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
# - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
# Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
#
# In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
# intrinsic part of communist ideology.


That is just a tiny part of the slaughters carried out by atheists,
running atheist states in the name of atheism.. and the ONLY
excuse these disgusting apologists for atheist crimes against humanity
is the "No True Atheist Fallacy"!!!!!!!!

What filthy moral defectives they are!

# The No True Atheist(Scotsman) Fallacy
#
# "Imagine Hamish McDonald, a Scotsman, sitting down with
# his Glasgow Morning Herald and seeing an article about
# how the "Brighton Sex Maniac Strikes Again." Hamish is
# shocked and declares that "No Scotsman would do such
# a thing." The next day he sits down to read his Glasgow
# Morning Herald again and this time finds an article about
# an Aberdeen man whose brutal actions make the Brighton
# sex maniac seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that
# Hamish was wrong in his opinion but is he going to admit this?
# Not likely. This time he says, "No true Scotsman would do
# such a thing."
# —Antony Flew, Thinking About Thinking
#
# "Imagine Hashish McRavin1, an Atheist, sitting down with
# his Godless Morning Pravda and seeing an article about
# how the "Al Qaida terrorist Strikes Again."
# Hashish is shocked and declares that "No Atheist would
# do such a thing." The next day he sits down to read his
# Godless Morning Pravda again and this time finds an
# article about an Atheist State whose brutal actions
# terrorising torturing and killing millions make the AlQaida
# terrorist seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that
# McRavin1 was wrong in his opinion but is he going to admit this?
# Not likely. This time he says,
# "No true Atheist would do such a thing."
— Fasgnadh, Thinking About Atheist lack of Thinking


Just for the historical record, (you know, the EVIDENCE supplied
by REALITY, not the IMAGINATION of these atheist LIARS), there
has never been an atheist state that was a secular democracy.
EVERY atheist state has been a totalitarian tyranny.

Raven1 is on record admitting (after I presented incontrovertible PROOF)
the reality of atheist states;

# From: raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir
# and Kelsey Bjarnyard? B^D
# Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
# Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7...@4ax.com>
#
#
# > raven1 wrote:
# >
# >> Even under officially atheistic regimes such as Stalin's,

Implementing the FORCED INDOCTRINATION of Children in schools!

You can't brainwash kids with atheism unless atheism
has AT LEAST ONE IDEA, true or FALSE. And everyone in
these ATHEIST STATES suffers indoctrination with the propaganda
of atheist ideology.

All the secular states have been created and sustained by
MAJORITY RELIGIOUS societies, as Ravin1 has conceded:


# From: raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir and Kelsey
Bjarnyard? B^D
# Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
# Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7...@4ax.com>
#
# There has never been a "Great, Enduring Atheist Civilization"


If course, atheists hate the facts, they prefer to believe
their man-made FANTASIES.

The True Atheist States are the ones we find in REALITY, murderous
tyrannies and catastrophic failures;

>> and atheism is not science,
>> it's an ideology with one basic idea which in
>> the 20th century killed over 80,000,000 people in the atheist
>> regimes of Lenin, Stalin Mao and Pol Pot.. far more than any
>> religion.

> No, it isn't. Marxism-Leninism is an ideology.

So is Atheism, as the

"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

What do you think Pravda, the indoctrination of children
in schools, the propaganda carried out by the League of
Militant Godless and the relentless persecution of Believers
by every agency of the Atheist State was doing.. holding
hands and singing Kumbaya at Xmas!?!!!!! pffft!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Militant_Atheists

The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[

“We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.
WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.”
-Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper

“Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,
and God from Heaven!” (early Soviet slogan)

"the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
- Daniel Peris,
"Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853

"Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"

"Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
in winter until they turned to ice-pillars."

- John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
(Boston: Little Brown, 1953)

< mindless ad hom abuse deleted as IRRELEVANT>

[Fred Hall]

On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:18:56 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote in <5Bper.5180$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>:

>"And here's the *other* reason why no one will debate Fasgnadh

Because you are a frothing loon who posts evidence that contradicts
your ludicrous claims?
--

Science flew man to the moon
Religion flew man into buildings...

AC

[Uirgil]

In article <5Bper.5180$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:

fasgnadh's posts are mere
tales told by an idiot,
full of sound and fury,
signifying nothing.

[Fred Hall]

On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 17:20:41 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in
<uirgil-3BE604....@bignews.usenetmonster.com>:

Shakespeare foresaw the coming of FuzzNutz

--

http://blackhelicopternews.blogspot.com/

http://blackhelicopternews.blogspot.com/p/award-winners-1994-2012.html

http://fnvw.databasix.com (awards descriptions and more)

[Art Deco]

On Apr 2, 6:40 pm, Fred Hall <fkh...@databasix.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 17:20:41 -0600, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote in

> <uirgil-3BE604.17204102042...@bignews.usenetmonster.com>:
>
> >In article <5Bper.5180$v14.5...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,

> > fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >fasgnadh's posts are mere
> >tales told by an idiot,
> >full of sound and fury,
> >signifying nothing.
>
> Shakespeare foresaw the coming of FuzzNutz
>
> --

> Ferd Hall

Isn't that your nickname given to U by the "old-timers" a-sittin' on
the "Dead Pecker Bench" down at the general store ??
--
<Guess Who>

[fasgnadh]

On 1/04/2012 10:06 AM, Uirgil wrote:

> On 1/04/2012 8:46 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> On 23/02/2012 4:23 PM, micro...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> It is common sense that science ought not be fighting innocent
>>> people's beliefs.
>>
>> Science does not fight religion, atheism does, and atheism

>> is not science, it's an ideology with one basic idea which in
>> the 20th century killed over 80,000,000 people in the atheist
>> regimes of Lenin, Stalin Mao and Pol Pot.. far more than any
>> religion.
>>

> Not so!

The atheist leaders of atheist states clearly implemented their
atheist ideology! B^]

They admitted it and ravin1 confirmed that those atheist states,
led by atheists, implementing policies of the FORCED INDOCTRINATION
OF CHILDREN with ATHEIST IDEAS were REAL:

"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

# From: raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir
# and Kelsey Bjarnyard? B^D
# Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
# Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7...@4ax.com>
#
#
# > raven1 wrote:
# >
# >> Even under officially atheistic regimes such as Stalin's

What do you think the atheist states FORCED INDOCTRINATION
of Children consisted of.. Prayer and readings from the Gospels?

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAA

> Anti-theism,being the belief that no gods exist,

is central to the atheist ideology, as the LEADER of alt.atheism's
community of Brutal Atheist Animals Without Agape demonstrates:

# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA

Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE of every
Muslim man woman and child, just for believing in something
the Atheist thugs want to prohibit again, freedom of thought and belief;

# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
# Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv...@4ax.com>
# Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
#
# On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
# <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
#
# It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
# The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA

This is not ONE ISOLATED atheist psychopath.. HE'S THE
ATHEIST LEADER, supported by the collective atheist nutjobs! 8^o

What has changed since atheist regimes of the 20th century
implemented that bloody terror, torture and mass murder?

"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin

EVERY atheist state has implemented those atheist ideas
by the forced indoctrination of children in schools, the
relentless atheist propaganda in media, the persecution of
believers by every arm of the atheist state.. atheism in
reality

> is as ideological as theism

Evidence:

The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[

“We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.
WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.”
-Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper

“Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,
and God from Heaven!” (early Soviet slogan)

"the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
- Daniel Peris,
"Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853

"Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"

"Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
in winter until they turned to ice-pillars."

John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
(Boston: Little Brown, 1953)

ATHEIST STATES


"North Korea's government exercises virtual total
control over society and imposes state sanctioned atheism"
- Hertzke, Allen. 2006.
Freeing God's Children. Rowman & Littlefield

---------

"Although the North Korean constitution states that freedom of religion
is permitted, free religious activities no longer exist in North Korea
as the government sponsors religious groups only to create an illusion
of religious freedom"
- Essential Background: Overview of human rights issues in
Human Rights in North Korea
(DPRK: The Democratic People's Republic of Korea)
(Human Rights Watch, 8-7-2004)

---------

"All publications are subject to supervision and censorship by the state.
There is no freedom of religion.
Independent worship is not allowed"

http://www.hrw.org/legacy/english/docs/2004/07/08/nkorea9040.htm

---------

"North Korea is officially an atheist state"
- World and Its Peoples: Eastern and Southern Asia

---------

"Atheism continues to be the official position of the
governments of China, North Korea and Cuba."
- The State of Religion Atlas. Simon & Schuster.



"autonomous religious activities now almost nonexistent;
government-sponsored religious groups exist to provide illusion of
religious freedom"

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/kn.html

---------

Now watch these atheist ideologues, trapped within their
dogmatic beliefs, snip and ignore ALL the evidence and
chant their mindless mantras:

> but a-theism, being only absence of both theism
> and anti-theism, has no ideology at all.

The No True Atheist(Scotsman) Fallacy! B^D Hilarious!

# The No True Atheist Fallacy

[Uirgil]

In article <Xdzer.5201$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,

fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 1/04/2012 10:06 AM, Uirgil wrote:
> > On 1/04/2012 8:46 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
> >> On 23/02/2012 4:23 PM, micro...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> It is common sense that science ought not be fighting innocent
> >>> people's beliefs.

When people like fasgnadh have to lie, as they do, to support those
beliefs, they are no longer innocent, and scarcely people.


> >> Science does not fight religion

Science certainly fights those religious perversions which fight it,
such as creationism.

> >> atheism does, and atheism
> >> is not science

You mean atheists do, but note that many more top scientists are
atheists than are theists these days, e. g. look at the American Academy
of Science or the Royal Academy, both of which are over 90% non-theist.



,
>
> What do you think the Catholic states FORCED INDOCTRINATION

> of Children consisted of.. Prayer and readings from the Gospels?

Precisely!

>
> > Anti-theism,being the belief that no gods exist,
>
> is central to the atheist ideology

False! None of the atheists I know claim that no gods exist, they merely
claim that no gods have been satisfactorily proven to exist.

> This is not ONE ISOLATED atheist psychopath.. HE'S THE
> ATHEIST LEADER, supported by the collective atheist nutjobs!

Atheism = non-theism, and had no leaders, each atheist speaks for
himself alone.
>
> What has changed since Chrisatian regimes of the past

> implemented that bloody terror, torture and mass murder?

>

> EVERY religous state has implemented those religions

> by the forced indoctrination of children in schools, the

> relentless religious propaganda in media, the persecution of
> non-believers unto death.

> and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN!

You mean like in Catholic countries?


There is nothing that any officially atheistic government did by way of
education and propaganda that they did not copy from Christian, usually
Catholic or Orthodox, Nations.

[fasgnadh]

Don Martin wrote:

> raven1<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>> On 1/04/2012 8:46 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>> On 23/02/2012 4:23 PM, micro...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> It is common sense that science ought not be fighting innocent
>>>> people's beliefs.
>>>

>>> Science does not fight religion, atheism does, and atheism
>>> is not science, it's an ideology with one basic idea which in
>>> the 20th century killed over 80,000,000 people in the atheist
>>> regimes of Lenin, Stalin Mao and Pol Pot.. far more than any
>>> religion.
>>

>> Stop right there. "Atheism" doesn't do anything. Atheists do.

Ok, atheists killed over 80,000,000 people.. happy now? B^p

>> Most atheists, BTW, would be happy to ignore religion as long as
>> it isn't shoved in our faces.

Liar, >90% of traffic in alt.atheism ranges from endless WHINING
about religion to violent hate-speech against theists, and NONE of you
gutless moral defectives ever challenge any of it:


This is what dogmatic atheist ideologues respond with when they are
simply wished Seasons Greetings:



# From: "John Fraser" <jfr...@ns.sympatico.ca>
# Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.pentecostal,alt.atheism
# Subject: Merry Christmas
# Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:21:03 -0400
# Message-ID: <4953abb6$1$5460$9a56...@news.aliant.net>
#
# Hello Folks;
#
# I'd like to wish all of you a very Merry Christmas
# and a safe holiday season. Phil 4:8.
#
# Cheers,
# John



# From: Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.pentecostal,alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Merry Christmas
# Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:24:01 -0500
# Message-ID: <o07dl41sa4t4jhof3...@4ax.com>
#
# "go fuck yourself with your crucifix in a drill chuck'.

And this is the violent, psycho-sexual hate speech they SPEW OUT
without ANY provocation:

None of the atheists in USENET have the decency to even CRITICISE this
violent hate-filled leader of theirs, they fawn on the psychopathic prick!

Atheism is an EMPTY ideology, One Idea is all they can muster,
wrapped in jealousy and hate.. and that is why their most PROMINENT
spokes-Orcs advocate that they STEAL ideas from those who actually HAVE
SOME.. the Theists!!! Alain de Botton advises they steal the temples,
the rituals, the charitable works, the ideals and practices.. ALL THE
OUTWARD FORMS.. which was tried by the atheist regimes and other
UTOPIAN ideologies in the 20th Century, all arrogantly casting notions
of God aside, and they were CATASTROPHIC FAILURES, the greatest
slaughter the world has ever seen... Profit Dawkins, is even more
insane.. he advocates that they STEAL GOD!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA

Read and posts by his blind acolyte Vurgil for the details! B^D

or GO WORSHIP YOUR ATHEIST SACRED COW with Bukakke:

# From: Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,
alt.religion,alt.religion.christian
# Subject: Disapproving Creation:
# Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:23:40 -0800 (PST)
# Message-ID:
<b5430732-e52e-45b5...@p13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
#
#
#> come worshiping at the altar of atheism,

>>> and atheism
>>> is not science, it's an ideology
>>

>> No, it isn't. Marxism-Leninism is an ideology.

That's your argument?

'atheism isn't an ideology because something else is'? BWAHAHAHAHAHAA

as if there can only be ONE?

That's simply idiotic! B^D


>> a statement like the above indicates that

You don't know the definition of ideology: B^)

ideology: 1: A system of ideas
eg "There is no God"

2: The ideas and manner of thinking of a group,
social class, or individual
eg Theists or atheists or agnostics or rastafarians ..

So your claim that atheism is NOT an ideology is

>> incredibly stupid, incredibly dishonest, or simply barking mad.

B^]

Almost as funny as your

"Atheism" doesn't do anything. Atheists do. .. duh!

yeah what they do, in EVERY murderous atheist tyranny is
ATHEIST REPRESSION, terror torture and murder.. and the
FORCED INDOCTRINATION of CHILDREN with **ATHEISM** the dead-end
ideology of EVERY FAILED ATHEIST STATE, from Lenin, Stalin and Mao
to Pol Pot and Kim ill Fuk!

"Science" doesn't do anything. Scientists do. B^p

"Religion" doesn't do anything. Reople do. M^p


>> pointless.


> Ayup.


(Now everyone can see why Ravin1 and all the other atheist drones fear
to debate me.. because when they try they GET CREAMED by their own
ILLOGICAL CLAPTRAP! B^)

The other things to watch for whenever devious atheists post are:

- they snip the NG's posted to, to minimise their shame in front
of a larger audience.. look and DonH's NG header, then Ravin1's then
my original, to see their courage shring at the same rate as their
testicles! ATHEISTS FEAR TRUTH, and want to hide their dirty deeds.

- watch for post fraud.. you can find countless examples where they
simply FABRICATE text and attribute it to the poster they are
slandering and villifying.. and they are PROUD of their intellectual
dishonesty and moral depravity. Look in the Google Groups archive
for the strings "fixed it" "for you" to see them BRAGGING about
their ONLY feeble tactic ... BARE FACED LIES! B^[

Atheists are the most gutless cowardly, dishonest frauds I have
ever had the misfortune to encounter, except of course the Kook-
Suckers who live entirely in a world of self-delusion about their
own relevance. B^p

[Uirgil]

In article <a0qfr.5400$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>,

fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:


> >> Most atheists, BTW, would be happy to ignore religion as long as
> >> it isn't shoved in our faces.
>
> Liar, >90% of traffic in alt.atheism ranges from endless WHINING
> about religion to violent hate-speech against theists

Actually, >99% of the traffic on alt.atheism appears to be the endless
whining by religious nuts like fasgnadh about why not believing in their
un-proven and un-proveable theist claims is un-American or un-Australian
or un-something else besides being, as we readily admit, un-proven and
un-proveable.

[fasgnadh]

raven1 continues to debate me, not well, but DESPERATELY: B^D

> On 3/04/2012 8:18 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> raven1 contradicts his latest LIE by debating me!!! (Poorly! ;-):
>>
>> "And here's the *other* reason why no one will debate Fasgnadh..."
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHA

Raven tries to respond, but his efforts are so piss weak that not
even he can pretend that his feeble efforts, mere ad hom and lies,
are a proper DEBATE! B^D

>> Atheist 'arguments' are nothing but LIES and ad hom abuse! B^p
>>
>> They stop debating me when I point that out, in detail,
>> and they Snip and RUN AWAY! B^]
>>

<unsnip, watch the chickenshit atheists snip and run AGAIN and again ;->

>>> On 1/04/2012 8:46 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> On 23/02/2012 4:23 PM, micro...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> It is common sense that science ought not be fighting innocent
>>>>> people's beliefs.
>>>>
>>>> Science does not fight religion, atheism does,
>>
>>> Stop right there. "Atheism" doesn't do anything.
>>
>> Bullshit you lying atheist stooge, you have ALREADY confessed
>> the REALITY of atheist states, and they slaughtered MILLIONS: 8^o
>>
>> # From: raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir
>> # and Kelsey Bjarnyard? B^D
>> # Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
>> # Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7...@4ax.com>
>> #
>> #
>> # > raven1 wrote:
>> # >
>> # >> Even under officially atheistic regimes such as Stalin's,

No wonder Ravin-Chicken snipped that, he just looks more
stupid and irrelevant everytime he posts! B^D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0kPQiQufpE

>> Every atheist regime in history has been a totalitarian tyranny
>> torturing, terrorising and killing over 80,000,000 people in a
>> brief period of seven decades before they CATASTROPHICALLY
>> collapsed and religious freedoms were restored!
>>
>>> Atheists do.
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAA
>>
>> How asinine do lying atheists think people are:
>>
>> "Nazism doesn't do anything, Nazis do" pfffft!
>>
>> Atheists, acting together, implement atheist suppression of religion and
>> persecution of believers.. they did so in EVERY ATHEIST
>> STATE EVER TO EXIST!!!!
>>
>> Like Nazis, THEY WILL NEVER BE GIVEN ANOTHER SHOT AT IT! B^[
>>
>> Game, Set, ..MATCH! B^]
>

> Wow.

It was easy, demolishing such a weak case as you...

But, I'm not finished kicking your lying atheist arse yet,
so you might as well get ready to SNIP AND RUN, as you always do,
Chickenshit... B^]

No wonder Ravin1 has stopped debating, he has had his arse
kicked SO OFTEN! '' B^D

>> You can't brainwash kids with atheism unless atheism
>> has AT LEAST ONE IDEA, true or FALSE. And everyone in
>> these ATHEIST STATES suffers indoctrination with the propaganda
>> of atheist ideology.

And Ravin the Rhode Island Red claims atheism is harmless:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Rhode_island_red_1915_lithograph.jpg

Raven the small one at the back, the other one is a cock and has balls!

B^D

>> All the secular states have been created and sustained by
>> MAJORITY RELIGIOUS societies, as Ravin1 has conceded:
>>
>>
>> # From: raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir and Kelsey
>> Bjarnyard? B^D
>> # Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
>> # Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7...@4ax.com>
>> #
>> # There has never been a "Great, Enduring Atheist Civilization"
>>
>>
>> If course, atheists hate the facts, they prefer to believe
>> their man-made FANTASIES.
>>
>> The True Atheist States are the ones we find in REALITY, murderous
>> tyrannies and catastrophic failures;
>>
>>
>> >> and atheism is not science,
>> >> it's an ideology with one basic idea which in
>>>> the 20th century killed over 80,000,000 people in the atheist
>>>> regimes of Lenin, Stalin Mao and Pol Pot.. far more than any
>>>> religion.
>>
>>
>>
>>> No, it isn't. Marxism-Leninism is an ideology.
>>

>> So is Atheism, as the atheist leaders of atheist regimes
>> proudly declared:

>>
>>
>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> What do you think Pravda, the indoctrination of children
>> in schools, the propaganda carried out by the League of
>> Militant Godless and the relentless persecution of Believers
>> by every agency of the Atheist State was doing.. holding
>> hands and singing Kumbaya at Xmas!?!!!!! pffft!!

Ravin is so incapable of defending the horrific history of
atheist tyranny that he simply denies he's even here trying: B^D

> You're so desperate for me to interact with you
...

Hey, numbnuts, YOU are responding to MY posts (inadequately, as
usual ;-) after telling us that everyone ignores me!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA

No one reading your drivel could

> mistake my correcting you for "debate". Wrong.

No one ever expects you to get ANYTHING right, Hennie Pennie! B^]

> A debate is a give-and-take exchange;

I give, you take OFF! B^D


> I have less than no

IQ, decency, honsety, integrity or things to say.


I am not interested in talking TOO you, I just use you as a
teaching aide to demonstrate the issues atheists have.

B^]

[fasgnadh]

On 2/04/2012 6:05 AM, Uirgil wrote:

> Religions, like species, are subject to a sort of survival of the
> fittest,

And the great world religions, those that have inspired enduring
civilisations, have lasted for centuries and evolved into the
free open, prosperous, progressive rights-based secular democatic states
built IN EVERY CASE, by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS societies,
whereas EVERY ATHEIST state in history has devolved mankind and
failed catastrophically, after a brief few years of terror, torture and
mass murder, killing over 80,000,000 people, far more than ANY religion!

Religion has evolved, atheism has naturally selected itself for
extinction...

> in the long run most of the worst ones die out,

in the USSR, Maoist China, Pol Pot's Cambodia..all failed totalitarian
tyrannies, ... only Nth Korea remains, the last, failing Atheist State,
a basket case where people eat GRASS to survive the famines....

> but when one takes only the good from them and leaves

then atheism leaves the societies it had infected DEVASTATED,
as can be seen with Pol Pot's Cambodian year Zero, for example:

> Atheism at its best.

Historically, atheism is a FAILED, DISCREDITED, hypothesis.





---------

The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently

launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it,
including all the ones who eagerly embraced Dawkin's
even more enthusiastic endorsement of atheist Gods he claims
'came into being'(sic)

From his book Launch:

"A few years ago it struck me that there is a resource
that is a provider of Wisdom, and consolation,
and an ethical framework, and it's rather fascinating and
has dominated the mental landscape of human beings for thousands of years
I'm thinking, of course, of religion.

And the problem is, I'm an atheist."

Yes, that's certainly a problem for any atheist! B^D

or for anyone living in any of the atheist regimes they ran! B^[

"Not just a bit of an atheist, I really am an atheist."

You make it sound like you expect people not to believe atheists!

B^D

"So, this doesn't, in a way, make me an ideal cantidate to write
about religion, but at some point it did strike me that religions
cannot be, in the words of Christopher Hitchins, "the source of
the poison of everything", it's implausible, they've been around
for thousands of years, they reflect the collaborative intelligences
and sensitivities of millions of people and the idea that everything
to do with them is false and wicked just didn't start to stand up to
the scrutiny I applied to it, as I thought more about the subject.

So, that's really the fruit of my thinking"

That religion is really the source of so so many good and useful
contributions to civilisation that Hitchin's malicious lies just
don't stand up.. 8^o and as atheism is devoid of anything
worthwhile itself, it needs to STEAL some of the many great ideas
religion has to offer:

" my new book,Religion for Atheists is a deliberate attempt
to look at a number of areas where I believe that religions
have things to offer for non-believers"

[Uirgil]

In article <cdwfr.5313$v14...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:

At great length but with zero content

[Uirgil]

In article <Mowfr.5418$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>,

fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 2/04/2012 6:05 AM, Uirgil wrote:

I have snipped no more of what fasgnadh wrote than he snipped of what I
wrote.

[fasgnadh]

Uirgil has doubt's about his faith - no evidence for Dawkin's Gods:

> On 1/04/2012 4:53 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> On 1/04/2012 9:46 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> On 1/04/2012 8:46 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> On 23/02/2012 4:23 PM, micro...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> It is common sense that science ought not be fighting innocent
>>>>> people's beliefs.
>>>>

>>>> Science does not fight religion, atheism does, and atheism
>>>> is not science, it's an ideology with one basic idea which in
>>>> the 20th century killed over 80,000,000 people in the atheist
>>>> regimes of Lenin, Stalin Mao and Pol Pot.. far more than any
>>>> religion.

Mo one disputes the historical facts, which disprove for all time the
atheist hypothesis that they are more rational than the civilisations
influenced by religion.

So the atheists always return to sterile and pointless arguments about
THE EXISTENCE of GOD! pffffft!

>>>>> But both sides have went to far...
>>>>
>>>> Exactly, the extremes of atheist regimes in the modern era
>>>> and of religious theocracies (fortunately no longer the norm,
>>>> as majority religious societies around the world have
>>>> evolved free, open, tolerant, progressive, rights-based secular
>>>> democracies (something no atheist state ever managed to do).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Atheist mean one
>>

>> I agree with your definition of an atheist, especially
>> the ones responsible for the atheist holocaust.
>>

>>> without a theology!

So the complete SUPPRESSION of belief in the atheist regimes of
the 20th century was MORE tyrannical than any religious societies of
earlier times, and FAR MORE evil and violent than the modern, free,
open, tolerant secular democratic states which MAJORITY religious
societies built in EVERY instance, not one decent democracy was EVER
achieved by atheist governments! B^o

>> But do you think 'mean one' really covers the bestial tyranny
>> that EVERY atheist regime in history has been? The brutality
>> of atheist states was exceptional.
>>
>>> Theists and non theists.
>>> One is no more or less moral than the other.
>>
>> Clearly not true, in the modern era majority theist societies
>> have evolved the free open, progressive, tolerant secular states
>> ..something which no atheist regime ever did.
>>
>> Unlike religion, then, the history of Atheism is one of
>> UNMITIGATED terror torture and Mass murder.. in EVERY atheist
>> state ever to curse humanity by existing!!!!

The evidence of History is CLEAR and unambiguous!

>> You need to develop a sense of moral judgement, fairness and balance.
>>
>>
>>>>> The extremes need to lose on both sides.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Exactly, Religious civilisations have progressively muted their
>>>> extremes (the modern secular democracies created by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS
>>>> societies are far superior to any religious society of the ancient or
>>>> medieval times) and the Atheist regimes have reduced their extremes by
>>>> collapsing catastrophically, leaving only a tiny remnant of weak,
>>>> ineffectual, irrational atheist drones, who are allowed to flog the
>>>> dead horse of Fundamentalism as a minor public service to the rest of us
>>>> (we let them delude themselves that they are slaying dragons, when
>>>> fundamentalism is already defeated by the secularism the moderate
>>>> religious majority installed to ENSURE freedom of thought and belief,
>>>> including non-belief. ;-).
>>>>
>>>> [See Bukakke for an example of pathological Tilting at Windmills,
>>>> a la Don Quixote! B^]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>

> Science fights the claims of those

..Like Dawkins..

"these Gods came into being by an explicable scientific
progression of incremental evolution."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all

> claiming that they have
> objective physical evidence (scientific evidence) of
> the truth of their claimed gods, angels, etc.,

But neither Dawkins nor any other atheist can ever show
any EVIDENCE for the 'evolution' of "GODS"!!!!!!!!!

It's a BELIEF of their Atheist FAITH!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAA!

> that Evolution is false

Darwin's isn't, there is plenty of evidence for Natural Selection..

but Dawkin's "'evolution', of Gods" is pure BULLSHIT! B^D

As Vurgil already admitted:

# Subject: Re: "Why does fasgnadh repost the same atheist lies?"
# From: Vurgil <Vur...@arg.erg>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.atheism.satire,
# alt.agnosticism,alt.religion, alt.philosophy,aus.politics,
# uk.politics.misc,alt.politics.republicans
# Organization: Vurgil
# Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:32:02 -0600
# Message-ID: <Vurgil-123170....@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
#
# "It¹s very important to understand that these Gods
# came into being by an explicable scientific progression
# of incremental evolution."
#
# Read it all at and see that Dawkins lies.
#
# http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all

> there is no scientific evidence supporting global warming.

You are wrong on that one too! B^D

So stop trying to change the subject, you fraud and liar!

> Atheism does not in general fight religion,

too gutless and cowardly.. only when they have a regime controlling
thugs in the secret police and military do they unleash their true
nature.. terror, torture and mass murder of over 80,000,000 people
in the atheist tyrannies; USSR, Maoist China and Pol Pots Cambodia!

Dawkins

> gods and such do not exist,

We know, you have already denounced him as a liar!

Message-ID: <Vurgil-123170....@bignews.usenetmonster.com>

The atheists Gods are PURE DELUSION..

> they have never been proven
> via objective physical evidence to exist.

And yet you blind atheist believers STILL BELIEVE IN THEM!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAH

Just like the theists, whose belief in God, no less
well evidenced than yours, you deny and abuse them as fools for believing:

> atheism does deny those claims of religions

And then you hypocrites turn around and STEAL their ideas!

De Botton says Steal the PRAXIS of religion, all the good things it
does, and Dawkin's simply STEALS THE IDEA OF GOD, claims that It's
plausible that Gods exist in the universe and then INVENTS an atheist one!

Hilarious!

>>>> and atheism is not science
>

> Science is based on not accepting any claims unsupported by objective
> physical evidence.

Like those made by Dawkin's about your atheist Gods!

> So atheism runs

it always does when challenged for EVIDENCE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0kPQiQufpE

[Uirgil]

In article <1VNfr.5335$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,

fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Mo one disputes the historical facts, which disprove for all time the
> atheist hypothesis that they are more rational than the civilisations
> influenced by religion.
>
> So the atheists always return to sterile and pointless arguments about
> THE EXISTENCE of GOD! pffffft!

Actually the majority of atheists do not argue about the existence of
any gods, the only point out the lack of any objective physical evidence
supporting any such existence.

There is better evidence for the existence of sasquatchs than for any
gods.

[dolf]

Wasn't there an avalanche in Pakistan?

Ships and boats having problems at sea?

Fasgnadh (fasg...@yahoo.com): “So, for those of you who enjoy beginning
coffee shop conversations with "The Death of God”. It's time to change
the subject! It's time to talk about something else, because it's not
happening at all.

People are becoming more religious, not less religious, and religion
itself is also evolving…”

Crow "Arsewipe" Raver (quotht...@nevermore.com): “Wow. You're as
long-winded as Fasgnadh, and twice as incoherent.”

Fred Hall (fkh...@databasix.com): “You forgot to mention my name, Doof.”

dolf: “Who is Fasgnadh, that I should regard him? How little he knows.”

Crow "Arsewipe" Raver (quotht...@nevermore.com): “Another
semi-coherent loon from Australia.”

dolf: “A Hoodoo Guru?”

John “Feral Forte Agent Dog” Baker (nu...@bizniz.net): “A bit closer to
sane than dolf, though, as difficult as that may be to imagine.”

Australian Skeptics / The Millennium Project [www.ratbags.com/rsoles]:
“And you would know about wanking, Dolt.”

dolf: “It's coming for you.

@memeBrain [Telos: #1694, Super: #9 - Inconstancy of Achievement,
Practicing Placidity; I-Ching: H7 - Army; Tetra: 32 - Legion, Ego: #74 -
Controlling Feelings, Overcome Delusion; I-Ching: H39 - Obstacles;
Tetra: 80 - Labouring]

Its quite the load--It will be the death of you.

@memeBrain [Telos: #3553, Super: #41 - Playing with Reversal, Sameness
in Difference; I-Ching: H26 - Restraining Force; Tetra: 60 -
Accumulation, Ego: #70 - Difficulty in Knowing How, Obtuse; I-Ching: H53
- Gradual Progress; Tetra: 14 - Penetration]

You are going to drown.

@memeBrain [Telos: #2253, Super: #6 - Female Superiority, Completion of
Form; I-Ching: H25 - Innocence; Tetra: 66 - Departure, Ego: #66 -
Strategic Reversal, Putting Oneself Behind; I-Ching: H41 - Decrease;
Tetra: 55 - Diminishment]

Like death warmed over--spermicidal!”

@memeBrain [Telos: #1838, Super: #31 - Military Stratagem, Quelling War;
I-Ching: H32 - Endurance; Tetra: 51 - Constancy, Ego: #56 - Abstruse
Mysterious Virtuosity; I-Ching: H55 - Abundance; Tetra: 46 - Enlargement]

The people which sat in darkness saw great {megas-great [G3173]: #87}
light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is
sprung up." [Matthew 4:16]

"And, behold, there arose a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} tempest in
the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was
asleep." [Matthew 8:24]

"And there arose a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} storm of wind, and
the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full." [Mark 4:37]

- dolf

[dolf]

Wasn't there an avalanche in Pakistan?

Ships and boats having problems at sea?

"And, behold, there was a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} earthquake:
for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled
back the stone from the door, and sat upon it." [Matthew 28:2]

"And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great
{megas-great [G3173]: #87} joy; and did run to bring his disciples
word." [Matthew 28:8]

"And cried with a loud {megas-great [G3173]: #87} voice, and said, What
have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure
thee by God, that thou torment me not." [Mark 5:7]

[dolf]

Wasn't there an avalanche in Pakistan?

Ships and boats having problems at sea?

"And if a man also strive {athleo-strive [G118]: #266} for masteries,
yet is he not crowned, except he strive {athleo-strive [G118]: #266}
lawfully." [2Timothy 2:5]

- dolf
- www.grapple369.com/memeBrain.html

On 8/04/12 4:18 AM, Uirgil wrote:

[Fred Hall]

On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 06:13:41 +1000, dolf <dolf...@hotmail.com> wrote
in <Vd1gr.5364$v14...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>:

>Wasn't there an avalanche in Pakistan?

Archimedes Plutonium

[dolf]

#8, #50, #5, #3, #20, #1 = phero (G5342): 1) to carry; 1a) to carry some
burden; 1a1) to bear with one's self; 1b) to move by bearing; move or,
to be conveyed or borne, with the suggestion of force or speed; 1b1) of
persons borne in a ship over the sea; 1b2) of a gust of wind, to rush;
1b3) of the mind, to be moved inwardly, prompted; 1c) to bear up i.e.
uphold (keep from falling); 1c1) of Christ, the preserver of the
universe; 2) to bear, i.e. endure, to endure the rigour of a thing, to
bear patiently one's conduct, or spare one (abstain from punishing or
destroying); 3) to bring, bring to, bring forward; 3a) to move to,
apply; 3b) to bring in by announcing, to announce; 3c) to bear i.e.
bring forth, produce; to bring forward in a speech; 3d) to lead, conduct;

Wasn't there an avalanche in Pakistan?

[dolf]

Fred Hall (fkh...@databasix.com): “Sure there is, Dolf. For you to pull
another fake aids troll.”

J. “Spooks” Waldby (wichita...@msn.com): “Some putos were in the
laundry hall and they were talking about how some chick saw me pull a
gun out of my bag. What they could not get over was how my bag was
magenta today. I says to those two guys, "chinga su dos a tu puta
madre." (Literally: “Fuck your two whore mothers”; It is a Mexican slang
phrase meaning: “You were birthed from your father's two ass cheeks")
then they saluted me and stepped into line behind the hund[r]ed [of]
other putos who were carefully walking behind me.

I raised up my arms with the hands p[o]inted away from my head and
donned my grey rebel jacket and hood and I says to the sphinx step aside
puto because I was the sphinx and it was my mirror image. Then I says to
quinn who has taken to doing construction work in an orange jacket with
his long grey beard I says to him quinn I liked you except when you are
needy but now you are a ghost on the rocks without a tinge of regret on
PBS Sesame Stre[e]t.

You have boys like fifteen as your new slavedriver and they like to slap
you twice with their left hand on your left cheek after smoking meth in
the [h]allway.

naaaah i just fucked yer mom. heh.”

dolf: “Not as well as I fucked you over--[the above] is a gateway to
eternity which is closed to you... (if one node is correct--the whole
mind of God is).

I bought a new (redback) yard broom to commemorate the recent US
invasion of Australia’s Northern Territory on 4 April 2012 and went to
the laundry with a blue (Potts Point) bag to wash my lamb’s wool bed
mattress cover.

Een huisvrouw's werk is nooit gedaan - maar ritueel maakt je vrij!”

Jonesie “Canadian” Trash (caseyte...@yahoo.com): “English + Haitian
+ Creole + Dutch

Waarom ga je niet af neuken van posten hier, jij stomme Australische
idioot? [Literally: Why don’t you fuck off from posting here, you stupid
idiot Australian?]

Ga seks hebben met jezelf. [Literally: Go have sex with yourself.]”

dolf: “Voodoo Hoodoo to you too!”

#1, #30, #5, #50, #1 = 'elahh (H426): 1) god, God; 1a) god, heathen
deity; 1b) God (of Israel);
#10, #2, #70, #5 = be`a' (H1156): 1) to ask, seek, request, desire,
pray, make petition; 1a) (P'al); 1a1) to ask, request; 1a2) to seek (for
favour);
#3, #30, #3, #30, #6, #5, #10 = galgal (H1535): 1) wheel;
#6, #5, #10, #30, #30, #6 = yalal (H3213): 1) (Hiphil) to howl, wail,
make a howling;
#6, #8, #30, #8, #30, #5 = chalchalah (H2479): 1) pain, trembling,
terror, writhing, anguish;

#8, #50, #5, #3, #20, #1 = phero (G5342): 1) to carry; 1a) to carry some
burden; 1a1) to bear with one's self; 1b) to move by bearing; move or,
to be conveyed or borne, with the suggestion of force or speed; 1b1) of
persons borne in a ship over the sea; 1b2) of a gust of wind, to rush;
1b3) of the mind, to be moved inwardly, prompted; 1c) to bear up i.e.
uphold (keep from falling); 1c1) of Christ, the preserver of the
universe; 2) to bear, i.e. endure, to endure the rigour of a thing, to
bear patiently one's conduct, or spare one (abstain from punishing or
destroying); 3) to bring, bring to, bring forward; 3a) to move to,
apply; 3b) to bring in by announcing, to announce; 3c) to bear i.e.
bring forth, produce; to bring forward in a speech; 3d) to lead, conduct;

#8, #10, #4, #5, #10, #50 = eido (G1492): 1) to see; 1a) to perceive
with the eyes; 1b) to perceive by any of the senses; 1c) to perceive,
notice, discern, discover; 1d) to see; 1d1) i.e. to turn the eyes, the
mind, the attention to anything; 1d2) to pay attention, observe; 1d3) to
see about something; 1d31) i.e. to ascertain what must be done about it;
1d4) to inspect, examine; 1d5) to look at, behold; 1e) to experience any
state or condition; 1f) to see i.e. have an interview with, to visit; 2)
to know; 2a) to know of anything; 2b) to know, i.e. get knowledge of,
understand, perceive; 2b1) of any fact; 2b2) the force and meaning of
something which has definite meaning; 2b3) to know how, to be skilled
in; 2c) to have regard for one, cherish, pay attention to [(1Th. 5:12) ;
#4, #5, #9, #8, #50, #1, #10 = deo (G1210): 1) to bind tie, fasten; 1a)
to bind, fasten with chains, to throw into chains; 1b) metaph.; 1b1)
Satan is said to bind a woman bent together by means of a demon, as his
messenger, taking possession of the woman and preventing her from
standing upright; 1b2) to bind, put under obligation, of the law, duty
etc.; 1b2a) to be bound to one, a wife, a husband; 1b3) to forbid,
prohibit, declare to be illicit;

J. “Spooks” Waldby (wichita...@msn.com): “You did not fuck me over.
My friends do not like it if I pretend to be something I am not. You
obviously are not a long time resident of the loaca cloaca you are
posting to. I appreciate your input.”

dolf: “I had to tell this chick in front of her mother: “Don’t touch
that CD ROM [which contains this document] because it will bring death
to someone--she didn’t so much as flinch.”

Burn in hell you perverse sick fuck.”

Craig Chilton [www.TravelForPay.org]: “Giggle? How cute.”

dolf: “Pucker up dear!”

% (per...@gmail.com): “[E]ven if you don't answer me, my replies to you
still count in my post count, so [I’]ll use you for that.”

Jani...@comcast.net (x-no-archive: yes): “LOL”

dolf: “You slack goat head.”

Fred Hall (fkh...@databasix.com): “Flattery will get you nowhere.”

dolf: “How’s the testicles?”

Fenced In World (GRINDR) 19 yo: “Fine thx”

dolf: “Good to hear.

Knock knock!”

Fenced In World (GRINDR) 19 yo: “I don’t play games.”

dolf: “It’s pleasant talk boy--so when you fuck remember what I said.”

Fenced In World (GRINDR) 19 yo: “What”

[fasgnadh]

On 3/04/2012 8:47 AM, Fred Hall wrote:
> On 3/04/2012 8:18 AM, fasgnadh wrote:

>> raven1 contradicts his latest LIE by debating me!!! (Poorly! ;-):
>>
>> "And here's the *other* reason why no one will debate Fasgnadh..."
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHA
>>
>> Atheist 'arguments' are nothing but LIES and ad hom abuse! B^p
>>
>> They stop debating me when I point that out, in detail,
>> and they Snip and RUN AWAY! B^]
>

> Because you are

The dominant Alpha Male. B^]

> a frothing loon

But fun to mock and laugh at!

>>>>
>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch

> who posts evidence that contradicts your ludicrous claims?

No one. B^]

Thanks for pointing that out!

[Helmut Wabnig]

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 19:53:54 +1000, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>How can these atheist 'thinkers' be so dumb?

That is the question you should have asked your father:
Why are you sooo dumb?

w.

[raven1]

He'd need to ask his mother who his father is first.

[Uirgil]

In article <35bjr.5822$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:

And here's the *other* reason why no one will debate Fasgnadh:

Fasgnadh would kill to impose religion on others, but avoids it for
himself.

[sirgregoryhall]

I'd love to know what Fasgnadh's like in bed though. I bet he's a screamer.
--
Sir Gregory

[fasgnadh]

On 17/04/2012 8:41 PM, Helmut Wabnig wrote:

>> How can these atheist 'thinkers' be so dumb?
>>
>>

>> "This is THE question facing modern society, and we haven't
>> necessarily answered it that well."
>

> That is the question you should have asked your father

I did, he said atheists were stupid because they chose not to see
reality, ....that and the inbreeding.

> Why

No one else would pollute the gene pool by allowing atheists to
swim in it. B^)

> sooo dumb

That's why atheists ahve never built a single decent democracy,
let alone the great and enduring Civilisations the Religions have
inspired!

[Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess]

Ha ha! Maybe he'd be better off asking a stork.

--
Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist
in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
-- Carl Sagan

[fasgnadh]

Fidem Turdbar, the non-sentient atheist gobshite babbled:
> raven1 joined the usual atheist Mutual Tool Fondling:
>> Helmutt Wanker kept Wabnigging:

>>>
>>>> How can these atheist 'thinkers' be so dumb?
>>>
>>> That is the question
>>

>> He'd need to ask his mother who his father is first.
>
> Ha ha! Maybe he'd be better off asking a stork.

# From: raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism

# Subject: Re: AA: signal-to-noise ratio here is 1:4

more like 1:100

# Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:53:30 -0400
# Organization: Asylum

Where you would expect to find atheists living.

# Message-ID: <pim3p75enrmboqh4h...@4ax.com>
#
# >> a desperate call for help. : ))
# >
# > Wow. The children are truly terrified of reality.
#
#
# Blah, blah, blah,
# blah, blah, blah... we've heard it all before.

How can these atheist 'thinkers' be so dumb?

[Uirgil]

In article <umvkr.6032$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>,
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Nothing worth repeating, in fact, and as usual, nothing worth posting in
the first place.

If religionist freaks like fasgnadh the fulminating faggot find atheism
so irrelevant, why do they keep posting to atheist newsgroups with such
great frequency and at such great length?

The post to which I am replying was posted to 9 newsgroups, from which
list I have removed 4 of the more irrelevant.

[Uirgil]

In article <z7wkr.5956$v14...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Countersnipped fasgnadh's fury!

> Fidem Turdbar, wrote:
> > raven1 joined in:

> >> How can these theist 'thinkers' be so dumb?

> >>>
> >> That is the question
> >>
> > He'd need to ask his mother who his father is first.
> >

> Ha ha! Maybe fasgnadh'd be better off asking a stork.

He probably does not want to know!