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A news item I posted more than a decade ago:
Physics looks for new Einstein as nature rewrites laws of
universe
By Jonathan Leake, Science Editor
The Times, UK
Sunday, September 9, 2001
A group of astronomers and cosmologists has warned that
the laws thought to govern the universe, including Albert
Einstein's theory of relativity, must be rewritten.
The group, which includes Professor Stephen Hawking and
Sir Martin Rees, the astronomer royal, say such laws may
only work for our universe but not in others that are now
also thought to exist.
"It is becoming increasingly likely that the rules we had
thought were fundamental through time and space are
actually just bylaws for our bit of it," said Rees, whose
new book, Our Cosmic Habitat, is published next month.
"Creation is emerging as even stranger than we thought."
Among the ideas facing revision is Einstein's belief that
the speed of light must always be the same - 186,000
miles a second in a vacuum. There is growing evidence
that light moved much faster during the early stages of
our universe.
Rees, Hawking and others are so concerned at the impact
of such ideas that they recently organised a private
conference in Cambridge for more than 30 leading
cosmologists.
Cosmology - the study of the origins and future of our
universe - became popular in the early 20th century for
physicists who wanted to think the unthinkable about
creation.
Einstein's theory of relativity, which describes how
gravity controls the behaviour of our universe, was one
of cosmology's greatest triumphs. But Einstein said there
was an even deeper issue, which he described as whether
God had any choice. In other words, could the laws that
governed the way our universe formed after the big bang
have worked any differently? He concluded that they could
not.
In the past 40 years, however, the increasing power of
astronomical instruments has turned cosmology from a
theoretical science into a practical one and forced
scientists to re-examine Einstein's conclusions. Among
the most striking claims is that our universe only exists
because of a fine balance between several crucial
factors.
One is the rate at which nuclear fusion releases energy
in stars such as the sun by squashing hydrogen atoms into
helium and then other elements. Astronomers have found
that exactly 0.7% of the mass of the hydrogen is
converted into starlight and that if this figure had been
just a fraction different then carbon and other elements
essential to life could never have formed.
Another puzzle is the so-called "smoothness" of our
universe, by which astronomers mean the distribution of
matter and radiation. In theory, the big bang could have
produced a universe where all the matter clumped together
into a few black holes, or another in which it was spread
out evenly, forming nothing but a thin vapour. "It could
be that the laws that govern our universe are
unchangeable but it is a remarkable coincidence that
these laws are also exactly what is needed to produce
life," said Rees. "It seems too good to be true."
What he, Hawking and others such as Neil Turok, professor
of maths and physics at Cambridge, are now looking at is
the idea that our universe is just one of an infinite
number of universes, with different laws of nature
operating in each.
Some universes would have all their matter clumped
together into a few huge black holes while others would
be nothing more than a thin uniform freezing gas.
However, Hawking and his colleagues increasingly disagree
over how this "multiverse" could work. At the conference
Hawking dismissed the idea of a series of big bangs on
the grounds that it extended into the infinite past and
so could never have a beginning.
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/09/09/stinwenws01025.html
The above URL no longer works but the article may be
elsewhere on the times.co.uk web site.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
o o o
About the terrorist Goon Squad:
"Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
<KalluM...@gmail.com> tries his best to be a bully --
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where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
<us...@this.com>, and issues death threats to people),
is priming himself for conditions such as stroke and
heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" <jos...@gmail.com> who
displays unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and
the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
favorite now is "fana...@gmail.com" (note the extra "b"
and "gmail.com") to make it appear as if the posts are
from "fan...@aol.com", who has been a regular poster for
many years. -Updated on February 2, 2012-
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Physics looks for new Einstein as nature rewrites laws of
universe
By Jonathan Leake, Science Editor
The Times, UK
Sunday, September 9, 2001
A group of astronomers and cosmologists has warned that
the laws thought to govern the universe, including Albert
Einstein's theory of relativity, must be rewritten.
The group, which includes Professor Stephen Hawking and
Sir Martin Rees, the astronomer royal, say such laws may
only work for our universe but not in others that are now
also thought to exist.
"It is becoming increasingly likely that the rules we had
thought were fundamental through time and space are
actually just bylaws for our bit of it," said Rees, whose
new book, Our Cosmic Habitat, is published next month.
"Creation is emerging as even stranger than we thought."
Among the ideas facing revision is Einstein's belief that
the speed of light must always be the same - 186,000
miles a second in a vacuum. There is growing evidence
that light moved much faster during the early stages of
our universe.
Rees, Hawking and others are so concerned at the impact
of such ideas that they recently organised a private
conference in Cambridge for more than 30 leading
cosmologists.
Cosmology - the study of the origins and future of our
universe - became popular in the early 20th century for
physicists who wanted to think the unthinkable about
creation.
Einstein's theory of relativity, which describes how
gravity controls the behaviour of our universe, was one
of cosmology's greatest triumphs. But Einstein said there
was an even deeper issue, which he described as whether
God had any choice. In other words, could the laws that
governed the way our universe formed after the big bang
have worked any differently? He concluded that they could
not.
In the past 40 years, however, the increasing power of
astronomical instruments has turned cosmology from a
theoretical science into a practical one and forced
scientists to re-examine Einstein's conclusions. Among
the most striking claims is that our universe only exists
because of a fine balance between several crucial
factors.
One is the rate at which nuclear fusion releases energy
in stars such as the sun by squashing hydrogen atoms into
helium and then other elements. Astronomers have found
that exactly 0.7% of the mass of the hydrogen is
converted into starlight and that if this figure had been
just a fraction different then carbon and other elements
essential to life could never have formed.
Another puzzle is the so-called "smoothness" of our
universe, by which astronomers mean the distribution of
matter and radiation. In theory, the big bang could have
produced a universe where all the matter clumped together
into a few black holes, or another in which it was spread
out evenly, forming nothing but a thin vapour. "It could
be that the laws that govern our universe are
unchangeable but it is a remarkable coincidence that
these laws are also exactly what is needed to produce
life," said Rees. "It seems too good to be true."
What he, Hawking and others such as Neil Turok, professor
of maths and physics at Cambridge, are now looking at is
the idea that our universe is just one of an infinite
number of universes, with different laws of nature
operating in each.
Some universes would have all their matter clumped
together into a few huge black holes while others would
be nothing more than a thin uniform freezing gas.
However, Hawking and his colleagues increasingly disagree
over how this "multiverse" could work. At the conference
Hawking dismissed the idea of a series of big bangs on
the grounds that it extended into the infinite past and
so could never have a beginning.
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/09/09/stinwenws01025.html
The above URL no longer works but the article may be
elsewhere on the times.co.uk web site.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
o o o
About the terrorist Goon Squad:
"Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
<KalluM...@gmail.com> tries his best to be a bully --
telling others what and when to post, where to post and
where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
<us...@this.com>, and issues death threats to people),
is priming himself for conditions such as stroke and
heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" <jos...@gmail.com> who
displays unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and
the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
favorite now is "fana...@gmail.com" (note the extra "b"
and "gmail.com") to make it appear as if the posts are
from "fan...@aol.com", who has been a regular poster for
many years. -Updated on February 2, 2012-
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Mar 26, 2012, 8:36:18 PM3/26/12
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On Mar 27, 11:18 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/09/09/stinwenws0102...
Already done that, in my book I wrote a few years ago, "The Principles
of Motion".
Actually I find that all renowned physicists being einsteinians, are
thoroughly dishonest.
Had they been honest, they would have acknowledged the terrific bungle
in the analysis of the results of the MMI experiment, which clearly
shows c(V)=c+V and brings back the aether concept as a medium for
electromagnetic waves, thus also outing the quantum theory.
I have published my work on that in the public domain years ago, back
in 2005. They have also ignored my derivation of the missing formula
in dynamics (which is as fundamental as f=ma, v=u+at, s=ut+0.5att),
namely 0.5mVVN(N-k).
One cannot work with the dishonest and abusive cowards, of course.
So further work related to material realisations of my formula
e=0.5mVVN(N-k)
has to be stalled until I find more honesty and courage in the physics
community.
Accepting my formula means making even more changes to classical
physics. Concepts like entropy will become useless, and the law of
conservation
of energy will cease to be general.
With the universe becoming linear and free from einsteinian nonsense,
space flights to the stars will become possible as written in my 2000
AD book,
"To the Stars!". The design work presented there in the book, is most
likely to be valid.
Euroecentric racists and bigots will try to obstruct now as they did
in the past, with the willing help of their brown-nosing reverse-
racist cttc quotays.
What will happen, let us see!
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
>
> The above URL no longer works but the article may be
> elsewhere on the times.co.uk web site.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> o o o
>
> About the terrorist Goon Squad:
>
> "Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
> <KalluMallu...@gmail.com> tries his best to be a bully --
> The above URL no longer works but the article may be
> elsewhere on the times.co.uk web site.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> o o o
>
> About the terrorist Goon Squad:
>
> "Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
> telling others what and when to post, where to post and
> where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
> others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
> fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
> lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
> <u...@this.com>, and issues death threats to people),
> where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
> others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
> fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
> lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
> is priming himself for conditions such as stroke and
> heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
> Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" <josh...@gmail.com> who
> heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
> displays unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and
> the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
>
> The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
> through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
> else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
> favorite now is "fanab...@gmail.com" (note the extra "b"
> the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
>
> The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
> through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
> else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
> and "gmail.com") to make it appear as if the posts are
> from "fana...@aol.com", who has been a regular poster for
of Motion".
Actually I find that all renowned physicists being einsteinians, are
thoroughly dishonest.
Had they been honest, they would have acknowledged the terrific bungle
in the analysis of the results of the MMI experiment, which clearly
shows c(V)=c+V and brings back the aether concept as a medium for
electromagnetic waves, thus also outing the quantum theory.
I have published my work on that in the public domain years ago, back
in 2005. They have also ignored my derivation of the missing formula
in dynamics (which is as fundamental as f=ma, v=u+at, s=ut+0.5att),
namely 0.5mVVN(N-k).
One cannot work with the dishonest and abusive cowards, of course.
So further work related to material realisations of my formula
e=0.5mVVN(N-k)
has to be stalled until I find more honesty and courage in the physics
community.
Accepting my formula means making even more changes to classical
physics. Concepts like entropy will become useless, and the law of
conservation
of energy will cease to be general.
With the universe becoming linear and free from einsteinian nonsense,
space flights to the stars will become possible as written in my 2000
AD book,
"To the Stars!". The design work presented there in the book, is most
likely to be valid.
Euroecentric racists and bigots will try to obstruct now as they did
in the past, with the willing help of their brown-nosing reverse-
racist cttc quotays.
What will happen, let us see!
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
Mar 27, 2012, 5:08:56 AM3/27/12
to
Whole pile of crap from the newsgroups two "fraudays" deleted.
Kakadevi copy-pastes an article she copy-pasted a decade ago. Poor
fucking dimwit, did not understand the import of the article then, and
does not understand it today either. The astrobunkum bidness makes
Kakadevi consider herself to be some sort of authority (albeit the
copy-paste kind) on cosmology (very different from astrobunkum,
third-rate fraud).
Then Arindumb trots out his usual idiotic magic formula, which Col.
Sanders knew a long time ago and used successfully to fry chickens.
Apparently people who ate them fried chickens developed a whole lot of
internal phorce.
--
VB, Ubetjotushy
'ome=shanty
-----
About the Jihadi Loon Squad:
---------------------------------------------------------------------
A jihadi loon is someone like Jade Muckeraj.
"Jade Muckeraj" aka "The Old Cow of Hawaii" <char...@fraudsrus.com>
tries her best to pretend she is a Hindu -- cutting and pasting, and
even doctoring what others post/write about Hindus/Hinduism on the
internet, deliberately pidginizing Sanskrit and providing wrong
translations, inventing brand new books in the Mahabharat (reducing it
to Muckabharat), stalking and abusing people who disagree with her by
hijacking their posts, and then cuts and pastes about Hindu ethics and
moans self-righteously about honesty -- and succeeds spectacularly in
convincing all, except other jihadi loons, that she is not a Hindu.
She is in fact a creepy jihadi loon, who thinks she owns the newsgroup
s.c.indian, and has absolutely no problem slandering anyone. As a
Indian citizen supposedly, she meddles in US political issues, and
advocates civil war in India.
Kakadevi copy-pastes an article she copy-pasted a decade ago. Poor
fucking dimwit, did not understand the import of the article then, and
does not understand it today either. The astrobunkum bidness makes
Kakadevi consider herself to be some sort of authority (albeit the
copy-paste kind) on cosmology (very different from astrobunkum,
third-rate fraud).
Then Arindumb trots out his usual idiotic magic formula, which Col.
Sanders knew a long time ago and used successfully to fry chickens.
Apparently people who ate them fried chickens developed a whole lot of
internal phorce.
--
VB, Ubetjotushy
'ome=shanty
-----
About the Jihadi Loon Squad:
---------------------------------------------------------------------
A jihadi loon is someone like Jade Muckeraj.
"Jade Muckeraj" aka "The Old Cow of Hawaii" <char...@fraudsrus.com>
tries her best to pretend she is a Hindu -- cutting and pasting, and
even doctoring what others post/write about Hindus/Hinduism on the
internet, deliberately pidginizing Sanskrit and providing wrong
translations, inventing brand new books in the Mahabharat (reducing it
to Muckabharat), stalking and abusing people who disagree with her by
hijacking their posts, and then cuts and pastes about Hindu ethics and
moans self-righteously about honesty -- and succeeds spectacularly in
convincing all, except other jihadi loons, that she is not a Hindu.
She is in fact a creepy jihadi loon, who thinks she owns the newsgroup
s.c.indian, and has absolutely no problem slandering anyone. As a
Indian citizen supposedly, she meddles in US political issues, and
advocates civil war in India.
Arindam Banerjee
Mar 27, 2012, 8:50:27 AM3/27/12
to
after they have tripped and backstabbed their betters so hard in order
to get
to their cushy states, they do get ratty. Rumpelstiltskinisation of
the quotays, is the most efficient means for their disposal. heh-
heh. So, gotta make them
get rattier and rattier.
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Mar 28, 2012, 12:39:19 AM3/28/12
to
How One Response to a Reddit Query Became a Big-Budget Flick
March 20, 2012
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/03/ff_reddit/all/1
March 20, 2012
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/03/ff_reddit/all/1
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
Mar 28, 2012, 12:46:38 AM3/28/12
to
On 3/27/2012 5:50 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> When the quotays are totally ignored for recognition, funding, etc.
> after they have tripped and backstabbed their betters so hard in order
> to get
> to their cushy states, they do get ratty. Rumpelstiltskinisation of
> the quotays, is the most efficient means for their disposal. heh-
> heh. So, gotta make them
> get rattier and rattier.
>
Could you please translate this "chimpspeak" into Sanskrit, please? From
> When the quotays are totally ignored for recognition, funding, etc.
> after they have tripped and backstabbed their betters so hard in order
> to get
> to their cushy states, they do get ratty. Rumpelstiltskinisation of
> the quotays, is the most efficient means for their disposal. heh-
> heh. So, gotta make them
> get rattier and rattier.
>
Sanskrit Kalidasasya (yeah, per Lady Kaka, the resident Skt. pandita, it
is okay to mix "angrezi" and "deva bhasha") to Rumpelstiltskin. Sheesh!
What a falling there was!
Now a special phrase that I reserve for Poochie (the third idiot from
ITID): "You're a fucking moron, Arindumb."
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Mar 28, 2012, 1:16:10 AM3/28/12
to
Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
Surazeus Simon Seamount
So did the person who asked the original question get any
credit or profit at all?
Forwarded comment from:
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/03/ff_reddit/#disqus_thread
>
> How One Response to a Reddit Query Became a Big-Budget Flick
>
> March 20, 2012
>
> http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/03/ff_reddit/all/1
Forwarded comment:
> How One Response to a Reddit Query Became a Big-Budget Flick
>
> March 20, 2012
>
> http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/03/ff_reddit/all/1
Surazeus Simon Seamount
So did the person who asked the original question get any
credit or profit at all?
Forwarded comment from:
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/03/ff_reddit/#disqus_thread
Arindam Banerjee
Mar 28, 2012, 4:03:31 AM3/28/12
to
Velocity addition in action, thus, adding up to the oscillations
corresponding to the particular
harmonic! Walls and bridges have been pulled down this way, since
biblical times. The whole of control system has to do with finding the
poles and zeroes of any complex
system, and what to do to get them out of the practised dynamic
ranges. What works in the material plane, may well work in the
mental. Such is the hope.
When quotays are too dull, they just won't understand - nothing can
vibrate these morons except lust and greed.
What else can be done, but pray for a Genghis Khan to take charge?
Dear GK will appoint a thousand LKYs with a thousand whips to get
cracking, and turn around situations in a pretty short while.
>
>
>
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Mar 28, 2012, 1:23:33 PM3/28/12
to
In article <b4b79d10-1c70-47bf...@mq9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> On Mar 27, 11:50=A0pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 27, 11:36=A0am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > >http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/09/09/stinwenws0102.=
> > > shows c(V)=3Dc+V and brings back the aether concept as a medium for
> > > in dynamics (which is as fundamental as f=3Dma, v=3Du+at, s=3Dut+0.5att=
> > the quotays, is the most efficient means for their disposal. =A0heh-
> > heh. =A0So, gotta make them
diminishing. . . dying, and some of them have already
departed.
Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> On Mar 27, 11:50=A0pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 27, 11:36=A0am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > electromagnetic waves, thus also outing the quantum theory.
> > > I have published my work on that in the public domain years ago, back
> > > in 2005. =A0They have also ignored my derivation of the missing formula
> > > I have published my work on that in the public domain years ago, back
> > > in dynamics (which is as fundamental as f=3Dma, v=3Du+at, s=3Dut+0.5att=
> ),
> > > namely 0.5mVVN(N-k).
> > > One cannot work with the dishonest and abusive cowards, of course.
> > > So further work related to material realisations of my formula
> > > e=3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
> > > namely 0.5mVVN(N-k).
> > > One cannot work with the dishonest and abusive cowards, of course.
> > > So further work related to material realisations of my formula
> > > has to be stalled until I find more honesty and courage in the physics
> > > community.
> > > Accepting my formula means making even more changes to classical
> > > physics. =A0Concepts like entropy will become useless, and the law of
> > > community.
> > > Accepting my formula means making even more changes to classical
> > > conservation
> > > of energy will cease to be general.
> > > With the universe becoming linear and free from einsteinian nonsense,
> > > space flights to the stars will become possible as written in my 2000
> > > AD book,
> > > "To the Stars!". =A0The design work presented there in the book, is mos=
> > > of energy will cease to be general.
> > > With the universe becoming linear and free from einsteinian nonsense,
> > > space flights to the stars will become possible as written in my 2000
> > > AD book,
> t
> > > likely to be valid.
> > > Euroecentric racists and bigots will try to obstruct now as they did
> > > in the past, with the willing help of their brown-nosing reverse-
> > > racist cttc quotays.
> > > What will happen, let us see!
> >
> > When the quotays are totally ignored for recognition, funding, etc.
> > after they have tripped and backstabbed their betters so hard in order
> > to get
> > to their cushy states, they do get ratty. =A0Rumpelstiltskinisation of
> > > likely to be valid.
> > > Euroecentric racists and bigots will try to obstruct now as they did
> > > in the past, with the willing help of their brown-nosing reverse-
> > > racist cttc quotays.
> > > What will happen, let us see!
> >
> > When the quotays are totally ignored for recognition, funding, etc.
> > after they have tripped and backstabbed their betters so hard in order
> > to get
> > the quotays, is the most efficient means for their disposal. =A0heh-
> > heh. =A0So, gotta make them
> > get rattier and rattier.
>
> Till they disintegrate, naturally, out of their own frustration.
> Velocity addition in action, thus, adding up to the oscillations
> corresponding to the particular
> harmonic! Walls and bridges have been pulled down this way, since
> biblical times. The whole of control system has to do with finding the
> poles and zeroes of any complex
> system, and what to do to get them out of the practised dynamic
> ranges. What works in the material plane, may well work in the
> mental. Such is the hope.
>
> When quotays are too dull, they just won't understand - nothing can
> vibrate these morons except lust and greed.
>
> What else can be done, but pray for a Genghis Khan to take charge?
> Dear GK will appoint a thousand LKYs with a thousand whips to get
> cracking, and turn around situations in a pretty short while.
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
They are disintegrating, disbanding, dispersing,
>
> Till they disintegrate, naturally, out of their own frustration.
> Velocity addition in action, thus, adding up to the oscillations
> corresponding to the particular
> harmonic! Walls and bridges have been pulled down this way, since
> biblical times. The whole of control system has to do with finding the
> poles and zeroes of any complex
> system, and what to do to get them out of the practised dynamic
> ranges. What works in the material plane, may well work in the
> mental. Such is the hope.
>
> When quotays are too dull, they just won't understand - nothing can
> vibrate these morons except lust and greed.
>
> What else can be done, but pray for a Genghis Khan to take charge?
> Dear GK will appoint a thousand LKYs with a thousand whips to get
> cracking, and turn around situations in a pretty short while.
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
diminishing. . . dying, and some of them have already
departed.
Arindam Banerjee
Mar 28, 2012, 5:38:04 PM3/28/12
to
On Mar 29, 4:23 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <b4b79d10-1c70-47bf-abcd-baf977238...@mq9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Not fast enough, though.
Unfortunately the right-wing has too many stupid racists in its
fringe.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <b4b79d10-1c70-47bf-abcd-baf977238...@mq9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Unfortunately the right-wing has too many stupid racists in its
fringe.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Mar 29, 2012, 1:08:42 PM3/29/12
to
Elsewhere, in article <cdf1de68-4574-4b2b...@x10g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > In article <5961a0be-1898-493d-b7a7-0f39dc3c9...@r2g2000pbs.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > Sonia Gandhi behind Rajiv's assassination, says Swamy
> >
> > > > > > Wow, this could be turned into a AC class novel! =3DA0Then a film=
> .
> >
> > > > > Go for it!
> >
> > > Your idea of the movie can fund "bigger issues" quite well --
> > > for example:
> >
> > > "Hunger Games"
> >
> > > March 23-25, 2012
> >
> > > Weekend gross: $152,535,747
> > > Budget: $78,000,000
> > try for the best.
> > Sometimes big money may come out of very low budget stuff.
> > I mean, we can make a movie (a slow one, psychological type) of a
> > loser who while claiming to be a PhD in some ancient language still
> > cannot write
> > a single line of the English language correctly.
> > The traumatic events that deprived him of his manhood, through
> > flashbacks - they may be quite juicy and also startling.
> > Of course, this chap is not nice at all. =A0Why should only nice people
> > have movies made of them? =A0This chap is nasty, always envious and
> > trying to hurt
> > but at the same time he poses as a crusader against corruption, while
> > supporting corruption wherever he can find it when such corruption
> > boosts his own
> > rather pathetic ego.
> > Maybe, Jai, you barked up the wrong tree when you thought of making a
> > movie about me. This low budget stuff (starring some bigname Hollywood
> > oldie,
> > may get one of them cheap) could be a big hit and make solid money.
> > Then again, you need slow haunting music, solid photography skills,
> > and some
> > really good manic acting. =A0It may be too much to ask Mr Hopkins to do
> > it, but if we make this psycho case an actual wannabe-killer (this way
> > there could
> > be a merging of the two themes) then perhaps Mr Hopkins could be
> > interested. Hannibal was a successful killer, but this chap is
> > rather thick so he bungles up, and sinks to day-dreaming in his own
> > narrow world.
>
> Where whatever silly and mean thoughts he thinks up, is absolutely
> correct to him and then he gets ratty when ignored by whoever cares to
> look his way.
>
> In this ghor kalyug, this sort of character will be a far bigger draw
> for the US public than a chap like myself. Take the novel "White
> Tiger" by Anil Adiga for instance.
> It has won top western awards and is a commercial success. It is
> about an Indian entrepreneur who started as a chauffeur then became a
> top guy by
> robbing his employer after slitting his throat. He also lusted after
> his employer's wife (Pinky Madam) but fortunately did not rape her -
> that was the
> best thing about him. Justifying himself by marxist logic, and lying
> about Indian conditions (this is a novel after all) this character had
> appeal to the
> western publishers. Now, this is the sort of stuff that gets
> published and will become a movie. Take that nasty movie Slumdog
> Millionaire for instance - it
> shows Indians in the worst possible light. Evidently Hollywood/West
> will do nothing to show non-Christian Indians in a good light, and we
> can
> understand why. Thus, I don't think too much will come out of your
> efforts, Jai, if they somehow show Indians in a good light. I
> suppose, you got to
> paint me either black or white in your script!
Valid points, all! Sorry but the basic story and plot are
etched in stone in view of the green lights negotiated
and won. Only minor rewrites are now possible for the
project as accepted by the powers that exist beyond the
screenwriter.
Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> On Mar 28, 11:51=A0pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > In article <b96a9cd9-6454-4874-b5b8-df32f5f5b...@vy9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> On Mar 28, 11:51=A0pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > In article <5961a0be-1898-493d-b7a7-0f39dc3c9...@r2g2000pbs.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > Sonia Gandhi behind Rajiv's assassination, says Swamy
> >
> > > > > > Wow, this could be turned into a AC class novel! =3DA0Then a film=
> .
> >
> > > > > Go for it!
> >
> > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > I go for bigger issues.
> > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> >
> > > Your idea of the movie can fund "bigger issues" quite well --
> > > for example:
> >
> > > "Hunger Games"
> >
> > > March 23-25, 2012
> >
> > > Weekend gross: $152,535,747
> > > Budget: $78,000,000
> > >
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
> >
> >
> > I am not sure if our movie will make it that big. =A0Of course, we can
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
> >
> >
> > try for the best.
> > Sometimes big money may come out of very low budget stuff.
> > I mean, we can make a movie (a slow one, psychological type) of a
> > loser who while claiming to be a PhD in some ancient language still
> > cannot write
> > a single line of the English language correctly.
> > The traumatic events that deprived him of his manhood, through
> > flashbacks - they may be quite juicy and also startling.
> > Of course, this chap is not nice at all. =A0Why should only nice people
> > have movies made of them? =A0This chap is nasty, always envious and
> > trying to hurt
> > but at the same time he poses as a crusader against corruption, while
> > supporting corruption wherever he can find it when such corruption
> > boosts his own
> > rather pathetic ego.
> > Maybe, Jai, you barked up the wrong tree when you thought of making a
> > movie about me. This low budget stuff (starring some bigname Hollywood
> > oldie,
> > may get one of them cheap) could be a big hit and make solid money.
> > Then again, you need slow haunting music, solid photography skills,
> > and some
> > really good manic acting. =A0It may be too much to ask Mr Hopkins to do
> > it, but if we make this psycho case an actual wannabe-killer (this way
> > there could
> > be a merging of the two themes) then perhaps Mr Hopkins could be
> > interested. Hannibal was a successful killer, but this chap is
> > rather thick so he bungles up, and sinks to day-dreaming in his own
> > narrow world.
>
> Where whatever silly and mean thoughts he thinks up, is absolutely
> correct to him and then he gets ratty when ignored by whoever cares to
> look his way.
>
> In this ghor kalyug, this sort of character will be a far bigger draw
> for the US public than a chap like myself. Take the novel "White
> Tiger" by Anil Adiga for instance.
> It has won top western awards and is a commercial success. It is
> about an Indian entrepreneur who started as a chauffeur then became a
> top guy by
> robbing his employer after slitting his throat. He also lusted after
> his employer's wife (Pinky Madam) but fortunately did not rape her -
> that was the
> best thing about him. Justifying himself by marxist logic, and lying
> about Indian conditions (this is a novel after all) this character had
> appeal to the
> western publishers. Now, this is the sort of stuff that gets
> published and will become a movie. Take that nasty movie Slumdog
> Millionaire for instance - it
> shows Indians in the worst possible light. Evidently Hollywood/West
> will do nothing to show non-Christian Indians in a good light, and we
> can
> understand why. Thus, I don't think too much will come out of your
> efforts, Jai, if they somehow show Indians in a good light. I
> suppose, you got to
> paint me either black or white in your script!
Valid points, all! Sorry but the basic story and plot are
etched in stone in view of the green lights negotiated
and won. Only minor rewrites are now possible for the
project as accepted by the powers that exist beyond the
screenwriter.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Mar 30, 2012, 5:02:51 AM3/30/12
to
Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
The third meeting about the movie takes place in the
second half of next month.
second half of next month.
DMJoshi
Mar 30, 2012, 6:15:34 AM3/30/12
to
Lest a lackey is lost Monkey Maharaj stick jaggery to Adridam's
elbow., which he can smell but cannot get his tongue to.
On Mar 30, 10:02 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Om Shanti
elbow., which he can smell but cannot get his tongue to.
On Mar 30, 10:02 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > Valid points, all! Sorry but the basic story and plot are
> > etched in stone in view of the green lights negotiated
> > and won. Only minor rewrites are now possible for the
> > project as accepted by the powers that exist beyond the
> > screenwriter.
>
> >Monkey Maharaj
> > etched in stone in view of the green lights negotiated
> > and won. Only minor rewrites are now possible for the
> > project as accepted by the powers that exist beyond the
> > screenwriter.
>
>
>
> The third meeting about the movie takes place in the
> second half of next month.
>
> Monkey Maharaj
>
> The third meeting about the movie takes place in the
> second half of next month.
>
> Om Shanti
Arindam Banerjee
Mar 30, 2012, 8:08:22 AM3/30/12
to
On Mar 30, 8:02 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> > <cdf1de68-4574-4b2b-a6b9-058de2517...@x10g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>,
Good, that will be about the time I return from our European holiday.
Day after tomorrow we leave for Paris via Beijing, then to Amsterdam
and back via
Dusseldorf.
Getting hounded out of employment has more than a silver lining...
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Elsewhere, in article
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > <cdf1de68-4574-4b2b-a6b9-058de2517...@x10g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>,
Day after tomorrow we leave for Paris via Beijing, then to Amsterdam
and back via
Dusseldorf.
Getting hounded out of employment has more than a silver lining...
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
DMJoshi
Mar 30, 2012, 8:29:37 AM3/30/12
to
On Mar 30, 1:08 pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 8:02 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> On Mar 30, 8:02 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Mar 30, 2012, 6:21:52 PM3/30/12
to
In article <13e970c6-0eb8-4bb6...@ur9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> n a film=3D
> people
> > > > > have movies made of them? =3DA0This chap is nasty, always envious a=
> nd
> > > > > trying to hurt
> > > > > but at the same time he poses as a crusader against corruption, whi=
> a
> > > > > movie about me. This low budget stuff (starring some bigname Hollyw=
> to do
> > > > > it, but if we make this psycho case an actual wannabe-killer (this =
> d
> > > > appeal to the
> > > > western publishers. =A0Now, this is the sort of stuff that gets
> > > > published and will become a movie. =A0Take that nasty movie Slumdog
> > > > efforts, Jai, if they somehow show Indians in a good light. =A0I
fortunes are made from working for yourself. Enjoy your
holiday!
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > Elsewhere, in article
> > > =A0<cdf1de68-4574-4b2b-a6b9-058de2517...@x10g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > Elsewhere, in article
> > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > On Mar 28, 11:51=3DA0pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > > > > In article
> > > A0<b96a9cd9-6454-4874-b5b8-df32f5f5b...@vy9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > On Mar 28, 11:51=3DA0pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > In article
> > > A0<5961a0be-1898-493d-b7a7-0f39dc3c9...@r2g2000pbs.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Sonia Gandhi behind Rajiv's assassination, says Swamy
> >
> > > > > > > > > Wow, this could be turned into a AC class novel! =3D3DA0The=
> >
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Sonia Gandhi behind Rajiv's assassination, says Swamy
> >
> n a film=3D
> > > > .
> >
> > > > > > > > Go for it!
> >
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > I go for bigger issues.
> >
> > > > > > Your idea of the movie can fund "bigger issues" quite well --
> > > > > > for example:
> >
> > > > > > "Hunger Games"
> >
> > > > > > March 23-25, 2012
> >
> > > > > > Weekend gross: $152,535,747
> > > > > > Budget: $78,000,000
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > I am not sure if our movie will make it that big. =3DA0Of course, w=
> >
> > > > > > > > Go for it!
> >
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > I go for bigger issues.
> >
> > > > > > Your idea of the movie can fund "bigger issues" quite well --
> > > > > > for example:
> >
> > > > > > "Hunger Games"
> >
> > > > > > March 23-25, 2012
> >
> > > > > > Weekend gross: $152,535,747
> > > > > > Budget: $78,000,000
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> e can
> > > > > try for the best.
> > > > > Sometimes big money may come out of very low budget stuff.
> > > > > I mean, we can make a movie (a slow one, psychological type) of a
> > > > > loser who while claiming to be a PhD in some ancient language still
> > > > > cannot write
> > > > > a single line of the English language correctly.
> > > > > The traumatic events that deprived him of his manhood, through
> > > > > flashbacks - they may be quite juicy and also startling.
> > > > > Of course, this chap is not nice at all. =3DA0Why should only nice =
> > > > > try for the best.
> > > > > Sometimes big money may come out of very low budget stuff.
> > > > > I mean, we can make a movie (a slow one, psychological type) of a
> > > > > loser who while claiming to be a PhD in some ancient language still
> > > > > cannot write
> > > > > a single line of the English language correctly.
> > > > > The traumatic events that deprived him of his manhood, through
> > > > > flashbacks - they may be quite juicy and also startling.
> people
> > > > > have movies made of them? =3DA0This chap is nasty, always envious a=
> nd
> > > > > trying to hurt
> > > > > but at the same time he poses as a crusader against corruption, whi=
> le
> > > > > supporting corruption wherever he can find it when such corruption
> > > > > boosts his own
> > > > > rather pathetic ego.
> > > > > Maybe, Jai, you barked up the wrong tree when you thought of making=
> > > > > supporting corruption wherever he can find it when such corruption
> > > > > boosts his own
> > > > > rather pathetic ego.
> a
> > > > > movie about me. This low budget stuff (starring some bigname Hollyw=
> ood
> > > > > oldie,
> > > > > may get one of them cheap) could be a big hit and make solid money.
> > > > > Then again, you need slow haunting music, solid photography skills,
> > > > > and some
> > > > > really good manic acting. =3DA0It may be too much to ask Mr Hopkins=
> > > > > oldie,
> > > > > may get one of them cheap) could be a big hit and make solid money.
> > > > > Then again, you need slow haunting music, solid photography skills,
> > > > > and some
> to do
> > > > > it, but if we make this psycho case an actual wannabe-killer (this =
> way
> > > > > there could
> > > > > be a merging of the two themes) then perhaps Mr Hopkins could be
> > > > > interested. Hannibal was a successful killer, but this chap is
> > > > > rather thick so he bungles up, and sinks to day-dreaming in his own
> > > > > narrow world.
> >
> > > > Where whatever silly and mean thoughts he thinks up, is absolutely
> > > > correct to him and then he gets ratty when ignored by whoever cares t=
> > > > > there could
> > > > > be a merging of the two themes) then perhaps Mr Hopkins could be
> > > > > interested. Hannibal was a successful killer, but this chap is
> > > > > rather thick so he bungles up, and sinks to day-dreaming in his own
> > > > > narrow world.
> >
> > > > Where whatever silly and mean thoughts he thinks up, is absolutely
> o
> > > > look his way.
> >
> > > > In this ghor kalyug, this sort of character will be a far bigger draw
> > > > for the US public than a chap like myself. =A0Take the novel "White
> > > > look his way.
> >
> > > > In this ghor kalyug, this sort of character will be a far bigger draw
> > > > Tiger" by Anil Adiga for instance.
> > > > It has won top western awards and is a commercial success. =A0It is
> > > > about an Indian entrepreneur who started as a chauffeur then became a
> > > > top guy by
> > > > robbing his employer after slitting his throat. =A0He also lusted aft=
> > > > top guy by
> er
> > > > his employer's wife (Pinky Madam) but fortunately did not rape her -
> > > > that was the
> > > > best thing about him. Justifying himself by marxist logic, and lying
> > > > about Indian conditions (this is a novel after all) this character ha=
> > > > his employer's wife (Pinky Madam) but fortunately did not rape her -
> > > > that was the
> > > > best thing about him. Justifying himself by marxist logic, and lying
> d
> > > > appeal to the
> > > > western publishers. =A0Now, this is the sort of stuff that gets
> > > > published and will become a movie. =A0Take that nasty movie Slumdog
> > > > Millionaire for instance - it
> > > > shows Indians in the worst possible light. =A0Evidently Hollywood/Wes=
> t
> > > > will do nothing to show non-Christian Indians in a good light, and we
> > > > can
> > > > understand why. =A0Thus, I don't think too much will come out of your
> > > > will do nothing to show non-Christian Indians in a good light, and we
> > > > can
> > > > efforts, Jai, if they somehow show Indians in a good light. =A0I
> > > > suppose, you got to
> > > > paint me either black or white in your script!
> >
> > > Valid points, all! Sorry but the basic story and plot are
> > > etched in stone in view of the green lights negotiated
> > > and won. Only minor rewrites are now possible for the
> > > project as accepted by the powers that exist beyond the
> > > screenwriter.
> >
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
> >
> > The third meeting about the movie takes place in the
> > second half of next month.
> >
> > > > paint me either black or white in your script!
> >
> > > Valid points, all! Sorry but the basic story and plot are
> > > etched in stone in view of the green lights negotiated
> > > and won. Only minor rewrites are now possible for the
> > > project as accepted by the powers that exist beyond the
> > > screenwriter.
> >
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
> >
> > The third meeting about the movie takes place in the
> > second half of next month.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
>
> > Om Shanti
>
>
> Good, that will be about the time I return from our European holiday.
> Day after tomorrow we leave for Paris via Beijing, then to Amsterdam
> and back via
> Dusseldorf.
> Getting hounded out of employment has more than a silver lining...
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
Careers are made from working for someone else, but
> Day after tomorrow we leave for Paris via Beijing, then to Amsterdam
> and back via
> Dusseldorf.
> Getting hounded out of employment has more than a silver lining...
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
fortunes are made from working for yourself. Enjoy your
holiday!
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 6, 2012, 2:14:29 PM4/6/12
to
In article <699be58e-222a-4faa...@f5g2000vby.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
>> In article <4247aee8-6e96-4845-8fac-74cbf2758...@h9g2000yqe.googlegroups.=
> com>,
>> =A0Zinnic <zinnic....@gmail.com> posted:
>>
>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj POSTED:
>>
>>>> In article <769b2a2a-e8df-4c88-a23f-0c7b65a60...@lf20g2000pbb.googleg=
> roups.com>,
>>>> Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volcanomail.com> posted:
>>
>>>>> On Mar 28, 1:55=3D3DA0pm,Zinnic<zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2:17=3D3DA0pm, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volcanomail.=
> com> w=3D
>>> rote:
>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:04=3D3DA0pm,Zinnic<zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:58=3D3DA0pm, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volcanom=
> ail.co=3D
>>> m> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> When the values measured in an experiment agree with the va=
> lues=3D
>>> =A0that a
>>>>>>>>> theory says will be measured, then the experiment validates=
> the
>>>>>>>>> theory. =3D3DA0No amount of 'interpretation' changes that b=
> asic f=3D
>>> act.
>>
>>>>>>>> Not so!
>>
>>>>>>>>> A null result is measured in the MMX. SR predicts a null re=
> sult=3D
>>> =A0for
>>>>>>>>> MMX.
>>
>>>>>>>> Irrelevant because the ballistic emiisionn theory (BaTh) also=
> pre=3D
>>> dicts
>>>>>>>> the null result. The =3D3DA0null result is consistent with bo=
> th the=3D
>>> =A0BaTh and
>>>>>>>> SR, it proves neither.
>>>>>>>>Zinnic
>>
>>>>>>> It appears that you don't understand the concept of validation.
>>>>>>> Validation is not proof. =3D3DA0You can never prove a physical =
> theory
>>>>>>> because that would require testing it under all possible circum=
> stan=3D
>>> ces
>>>>>>> to an infinite degree of precision. =3D3DA0We can only test a f=
> inite =3D
>>> number
>>>>>>> of cases, and only to a finite precision.
>>>>>>> When the values measured in an experiment agree with the values=
> tha=3D
>>> t a
>>>>>>> theory says will be measured, then the theory has been validate=
> d by
>>>>>>> the experiment. =3D3DA0Depending upon the particulars, the vali=
> dation=3D
>>> =A0may be
>>>>>>> weak or strong, but it is never a proof. =3D3DA0If multiple the=
> ories
>>>>>>> accurately predict the same result for a particular experiment,=
> tha=3D
>>> t
>>>>>>> experiment validates all of those theories. =3D3DA0That doesn't=
> mean =3D
>>> that
>>>>>>> any of them is always correct. =3D3DA0When competing theories p=
> redict
>>>>>>> different values in a particular circumstance, then an appropri=
> ate
>>>>>>> experiment will falsify those that predict incorrectly, and val=
> idat=3D
>>> e
>>>>>>> those that predict correctly. =3D3DA0In general, a theory must =
> be hig=3D
>>> hly
>>>>>>> validated (i.e. many different measurements under many circumst=
> ance=3D
>>> s)
>>>>>>> in order to be accepted as useful. =3D3DA0And of course theorie=
> s that=3D
>>> =A0are
>>>>>>> falsified by experiment are to be discarded.
>>>>>>> Note also that only repeatable vetted experiments are considere=
> d
>>>>>>> meaningful.
>>
>>>>>>> Paul Cardinale
>>
>>>>>> Fair enough. I stand corrected in that I agree that there cannot =
> be
>>>>>> absolute proof. However, if two different theories correctly pred=
> icte=3D
>>> d
>>>>>> the same experimental result, I would not claim =3D3DA0that resul=
> t vali=3D
>>> dates
>>>>>> either though I would concede that it invalidates neither.
>>>>>>Zinnic- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>>>> The semantics can be a bit messy. =3DA0A theory that is validated b=
> y an
>>>>> experiment can still be an invalid theory.
>>>>> If 100 experiments validate a theory (i.e. the measurements agree w=
> ith
>>>>> the predictions), and one experiment falsifies the theory, then the
>>>>> theory is invalid; but those 100 validations still stand (of course
>>>>> they don't mean much in light of an invalidation by another
>>>>> experiment.)
>>
>>>>> Note also that all of this assumes a fixed domain of applicability.
>>>>> You could have a theory that was thought to be generally applicable=
> ,
>>>>> but then an experiment shows a case where it doesn't work. =3DA0Tha=
> t
>>>>> experiment would falsify it general, but the theory could still be
>>>>> valid (and useful), in a limited domain of applicability.
>>
>>>>> Paul Cardinale
>>
>>>> A theory may appear to be invalid within a frame but be
>>>> demonstrably valid in a smaller, larger or different
>>>> frame. In my use of "frame" I am including all known and
>>>> yet-to-be-known dimensions, including that of time.
>>> of any theory in "yet-to-be-known dimensions".
>>
>> "A theory may appear to be invalid..." is not necessarily
>> a pronouncement of its validity. Note the words "may" and
>> "necessarily".
> Hope all is going fine with your script!
> We are having a fantastic time in Paris. Saw Monet's garden and house
> in Giverney, took a walking tour and this morning visited the
> catacombs and Rodin's musuem. Now we will have dinner at the Eiffel
> tower restaurant, Seine cruise and Moulin Rouge...
> Life is a dream here, everything is so efficient and lovely. Amazing!
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
My screenwriting initiation is indirectly related to
Moulin Rouge. Where do you go from France?
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
>> In article <4247aee8-6e96-4845-8fac-74cbf2758...@h9g2000yqe.googlegroups.=
> com>,
>> =A0Zinnic <zinnic....@gmail.com> posted:
>>
>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj POSTED:
>>
>>>> In article <769b2a2a-e8df-4c88-a23f-0c7b65a60...@lf20g2000pbb.googleg=
> roups.com>,
>>>> Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volcanomail.com> posted:
>>
>>>>> On Mar 28, 1:55=3D3DA0pm,Zinnic<zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2:17=3D3DA0pm, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volcanomail.=
> com> w=3D
>>> rote:
>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:04=3D3DA0pm,Zinnic<zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:58=3D3DA0pm, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volcanom=
> ail.co=3D
>>> m> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> When the values measured in an experiment agree with the va=
> lues=3D
>>> =A0that a
>>>>>>>>> theory says will be measured, then the experiment validates=
> the
>>>>>>>>> theory. =3D3DA0No amount of 'interpretation' changes that b=
> asic f=3D
>>> act.
>>
>>>>>>>> Not so!
>>
>>>>>>>>> A null result is measured in the MMX. SR predicts a null re=
> sult=3D
>>> =A0for
>>>>>>>>> MMX.
>>
>>>>>>>> Irrelevant because the ballistic emiisionn theory (BaTh) also=
> pre=3D
>>> dicts
>>>>>>>> the null result. The =3D3DA0null result is consistent with bo=
> th the=3D
>>> =A0BaTh and
>>>>>>>> SR, it proves neither.
>>>>>>>>Zinnic
>>
>>>>>>> It appears that you don't understand the concept of validation.
>>>>>>> Validation is not proof. =3D3DA0You can never prove a physical =
> theory
>>>>>>> because that would require testing it under all possible circum=
> stan=3D
>>> ces
>>>>>>> to an infinite degree of precision. =3D3DA0We can only test a f=
> inite =3D
>>> number
>>>>>>> of cases, and only to a finite precision.
>>>>>>> When the values measured in an experiment agree with the values=
> tha=3D
>>> t a
>>>>>>> theory says will be measured, then the theory has been validate=
> d by
>>>>>>> the experiment. =3D3DA0Depending upon the particulars, the vali=
> dation=3D
>>> =A0may be
>>>>>>> weak or strong, but it is never a proof. =3D3DA0If multiple the=
> ories
>>>>>>> accurately predict the same result for a particular experiment,=
> tha=3D
>>> t
>>>>>>> experiment validates all of those theories. =3D3DA0That doesn't=
> mean =3D
>>> that
>>>>>>> any of them is always correct. =3D3DA0When competing theories p=
> redict
>>>>>>> different values in a particular circumstance, then an appropri=
> ate
>>>>>>> experiment will falsify those that predict incorrectly, and val=
> idat=3D
>>> e
>>>>>>> those that predict correctly. =3D3DA0In general, a theory must =
> be hig=3D
>>> hly
>>>>>>> validated (i.e. many different measurements under many circumst=
> ance=3D
>>> s)
>>>>>>> in order to be accepted as useful. =3D3DA0And of course theorie=
> s that=3D
>>> =A0are
>>>>>>> falsified by experiment are to be discarded.
>>>>>>> Note also that only repeatable vetted experiments are considere=
> d
>>>>>>> meaningful.
>>
>>>>>>> Paul Cardinale
>>
>>>>>> Fair enough. I stand corrected in that I agree that there cannot =
> be
>>>>>> absolute proof. However, if two different theories correctly pred=
> icte=3D
>>> d
>>>>>> the same experimental result, I would not claim =3D3DA0that resul=
> t vali=3D
>>> dates
>>>>>> either though I would concede that it invalidates neither.
>>>>>>Zinnic- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>>>> The semantics can be a bit messy. =3DA0A theory that is validated b=
> y an
>>>>> experiment can still be an invalid theory.
>>>>> If 100 experiments validate a theory (i.e. the measurements agree w=
> ith
>>>>> the predictions), and one experiment falsifies the theory, then the
>>>>> theory is invalid; but those 100 validations still stand (of course
>>>>> they don't mean much in light of an invalidation by another
>>>>> experiment.)
>>
>>>>> Note also that all of this assumes a fixed domain of applicability.
>>>>> You could have a theory that was thought to be generally applicable=
> ,
>>>>> but then an experiment shows a case where it doesn't work. =3DA0Tha=
> t
>>>>> experiment would falsify it general, but the theory could still be
>>>>> valid (and useful), in a limited domain of applicability.
>>
>>>>> Paul Cardinale
>>
>>>> A theory may appear to be invalid within a frame but be
>>>> demonstrably valid in a smaller, larger or different
>>>> frame. In my use of "frame" I am including all known and
>>>> yet-to-be-known dimensions, including that of time.
>>
>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>>> Om Shanti
>>
>>> You need to explain how you are qualified to pronounce on the validity
>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>>> Om Shanti
>>
>>> of any theory in "yet-to-be-known dimensions".
>>
>> "A theory may appear to be invalid..." is not necessarily
>> a pronouncement of its validity. Note the words "may" and
>> "necessarily".
>>
>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> Om Shanti
>
>
> Hello Jai,
>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> Om Shanti
>
>
> Hope all is going fine with your script!
> We are having a fantastic time in Paris. Saw Monet's garden and house
> in Giverney, took a walking tour and this morning visited the
> catacombs and Rodin's musuem. Now we will have dinner at the Eiffel
> tower restaurant, Seine cruise and Moulin Rouge...
> Life is a dream here, everything is so efficient and lovely. Amazing!
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
My screenwriting initiation is indirectly related to
Moulin Rouge. Where do you go from France?
DMJoshi
Apr 6, 2012, 2:39:35 PM4/6/12
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On Apr 6, 7:14 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <699be58e-222a-4faa-bce4-d02ce48bb...@f5g2000vby.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <699be58e-222a-4faa-bce4-d02ce48bb...@f5g2000vby.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 6, 2012, 6:55:07 PM4/6/12
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Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
Many lessons have been learned over time, and one of them
is that writing involves a lot of rewriting. This is
especially true when the author must meet the
requirements and deadlines set by other important people
in the team.
is that writing involves a lot of rewriting. This is
especially true when the author must meet the
requirements and deadlines set by other important people
in the team.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 6, 2012, 9:38:41 PM4/6/12
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The Idea Bird
http://theideabird.tumblr.com/#default
Of course, ideas are free but it's their execution that really sells.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
http://theideabird.tumblr.com/#default
Of course, ideas are free but it's their execution that really sells.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
o o o
About the terrorist Goon Squad:
"Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
<KalluM...@gmail.com> tries his best to be a bully --
About the terrorist Goon Squad:
"Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
telling others what and when to post, where to post and
where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
<us...@this.com>, and issues *death threats* to people),
where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
is priming himself for conditions such as stroke and
heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" <jos...@gmail.com> who
heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
displays unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and
the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
favorite now is "fana...@gmail.com" (note the extra "b"
the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
and "gmail.com") to make it appear as if the posts are
from "fan...@aol.com", who has been a regular poster for
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
Apr 7, 2012, 12:16:06 AM4/7/12
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Lady "The Fake Desi" Kaka went through an "initiation" for
"screenwriting". I think that must have been "screen printing" at Hauz
Khas. For some reason, the third-rate fraud can only copy-paste here,
and that too 24/7. Maybe the 'screen printer' is a retard?
The Divine Being, apparently rendered "unemployable" in Oz because of
Lady Kaka's copy-paste caca in s.c.indian, certainly motors around the
world as an invisble phorce injun. Some poor sucker must be left with a
little box and tube transmitting invisible hydrogen (the hot air being
packaged as H2).
--
VB, Ubetjotushy
'ome=shanty
-----
Dr. Muckeraj, aka Lady Kaka, aka Kakadevi, aka The Old Cow of Hawaii,
and her faithful monkey, Fanabba, aka Poochie, are rabid evangelical
Christians. The Baboon Squad, as Kakadevi and Pooch call themselves,
hates Hindus, Muslims, and Catholics, and the US too, which makes them
copy-paste trash 24/7. The transgender idiot, Kakadevi, claims to be a
"scholar" of Sanskrit, but hasn't demonstrated any knowledge or mastery
of it. However, there is plenty of evidence of attempts made by
Macaulay's monkey to "doctor" original articles to pidginize Sanskrit
words, perhaps to send Sanskrit into the gutter. The "doctorate" that
Kakadevi claims to have is likely for copy-paste research on the myriad
applications of cowdung. Other than some stock phrases that are
copy-pasted regularly, the Cosmic Baboon has shown no originality or
creativity, nor has the monkey contributed anything of value to any
discussion. Macaulay's other monkey, who, apart from saying "ditto" to
Kaka's caca, has no other skills than spraying fire hydrants with raised
hindquarters.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 7, 2012, 12:34:33 AM4/7/12
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ideabird 3/19/12
A scientist uses atomic decay detectors to build an
insane quantity of random word generators, then speaks a
question out loud. An insane quantity of software filters
finds the generators which randomly give the most
relevant answers. Bad generators are weeded out as
“unlucky” and replaced. This goes on at computer speeds
as long as it takes until there is one random generator
that answers reliably 99.9% percent of the time. Since
the spoken questions have no effect on random words
pulled from atomic decay, the scientist announces the
generator is indistinguishable from a sentient being,
perhaps even God.
Many more at:
http://theideabird.tumblr.com/#default
A scientist uses atomic decay detectors to build an
insane quantity of random word generators, then speaks a
question out loud. An insane quantity of software filters
finds the generators which randomly give the most
relevant answers. Bad generators are weeded out as
“unlucky” and replaced. This goes on at computer speeds
as long as it takes until there is one random generator
that answers reliably 99.9% percent of the time. Since
the spoken questions have no effect on random words
pulled from atomic decay, the scientist announces the
generator is indistinguishable from a sentient being,
perhaps even God.
Many more at:
http://theideabird.tumblr.com/#default
DMJoshi
Apr 7, 2012, 12:49:28 AM4/7/12
to
On Apr 7, 5:16 am, "Myself Mallu, Yourself?" <KalluMallu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Adridam Bandicoot's cam-can will be millions with his buffalo body.
wrote:
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 7, 2012, 12:56:02 AM4/7/12
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ideabird 2/13/12
Your consciousness stays with your body until it totally
dissolves. A biochemist, who is fascinated by the
processes narrates his decay, from person, to meat,
through the various changes that occur in his former
body.
Man more at:
http://theideabird.tumblr.com/page/3
Your consciousness stays with your body until it totally
dissolves. A biochemist, who is fascinated by the
processes narrates his decay, from person, to meat,
through the various changes that occur in his former
body.
Man more at:
http://theideabird.tumblr.com/page/3
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
Apr 7, 2012, 1:27:14 AM4/7/12
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> Adridam Bandicoot's cam-can will be millions with his buffalo body.
Wonder if this cancan is in any of Kalidas' plays. With his Sanskrit and
ham acting, Arindumb has blown the minds of several B'deshis. Maybe he
is performing at the Moulin Rouge for the fan club of Algerians.
Hey Arindumb, make sure you go to Pigalle - Lady Kaka got her first real
break ("initiation" into screenwriting, as per Lady Kaka) there.
DMJoshi
Apr 7, 2012, 1:29:38 AM4/7/12
to
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 7, 2012, 1:42:53 AM4/7/12
to
Ideabird 1/25/12
Your spaceship approaches the asteroid. You know it’s
composition is a bunch of grayish minerals, and in the
dim sunlight it’s dull. When you turn on the ultra-
bright landing spotlights the surface is a riot of
fluorescent reds, greens and blues.
Many more at:
TheIdeaBird
Your spaceship approaches the asteroid. You know it’s
composition is a bunch of grayish minerals, and in the
dim sunlight it’s dull. When you turn on the ultra-
bright landing spotlights the surface is a riot of
fluorescent reds, greens and blues.
Many more at:
TheIdeaBird
DMJoshi
Apr 7, 2012, 2:07:17 AM4/7/12
to
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 7, 2012, 2:16:55 AM4/7/12
to
ideabird 3/16/12
In the future we’ve barely moved off planet. But the vast
majority of humans have all followed their own paths.
Cyborgs live next to human-animal hybrids, who buy their
groceries from pagans who use psychotropic drugs to
expand their brains. Reincarnation is commonly used to
try different experiences.
Many more at:
TheIdeaBird
http://theideabird.tumblr.com/#default
In the future we’ve barely moved off planet. But the vast
majority of humans have all followed their own paths.
Cyborgs live next to human-animal hybrids, who buy their
groceries from pagans who use psychotropic drugs to
expand their brains. Reincarnation is commonly used to
try different experiences.
Many more at:
TheIdeaBird
http://theideabird.tumblr.com/#default
DMJoshi
Apr 7, 2012, 2:20:52 AM4/7/12
to
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 7, 2012, 2:27:55 AM4/7/12
to
ideabird 3/23/12
The Earth’s atmosphere swells during cycles of heavy
solar radiation, and space junk is gradually dragged down
to earth. 2,000 years from now, humanity has built itself
up after the apocalypse. A wandering soldier is
struggling his way over a snowy pass when a fireball
lands near him. Sizzling in the ice is a piece of metal,
a half-melted wrench stamped "NASA."
Many more at:
http://theideabird.tumblr.com/post/19956266369/ideabird-3-23-12
My comment: His mission is to find an alternate meaning
of "NASA", which holds the key to his survival.
The Earth’s atmosphere swells during cycles of heavy
solar radiation, and space junk is gradually dragged down
to earth. 2,000 years from now, humanity has built itself
up after the apocalypse. A wandering soldier is
struggling his way over a snowy pass when a fireball
lands near him. Sizzling in the ice is a piece of metal,
a half-melted wrench stamped "NASA."
Many more at:
http://theideabird.tumblr.com/post/19956266369/ideabird-3-23-12
My comment: His mission is to find an alternate meaning
of "NASA", which holds the key to his survival.
DMJoshi
Apr 7, 2012, 2:30:20 AM4/7/12
to
On Apr 7, 7:27 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai
(Dr.Monkey Maharaj) wrote:
>
> The Earth’s atmosphere swells ....
(Dr.Monkey Maharaj) wrote:
>
> The Earth’s atmosphere swells ....
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 7, 2012, 2:37:49 AM4/7/12
to
ideabird 1/11/12
An alien species evolves with a resonating crystal in
their brains which gives them a fine-grained sense of
time. They notice mountain climbers return with their
time out of sync, learn time changes according to
gravity, and develop the theory of relativity very early.
The concept of faster than light travel is supernatural
to them.
Many more at:
http://theideabird.tumblr.com
An alien species evolves with a resonating crystal in
their brains which gives them a fine-grained sense of
time. They notice mountain climbers return with their
time out of sync, learn time changes according to
gravity, and develop the theory of relativity very early.
The concept of faster than light travel is supernatural
to them.
Many more at:
http://theideabird.tumblr.com
DMJoshi
Apr 7, 2012, 2:52:43 AM4/7/12
to
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 7, 2012, 2:54:45 AM4/7/12
to
ideabird 2/10/12
One theory is that we used to hear gods when the two
separated halves of our brain spoke to each other. As the
halves joined, we became more integrated beings, and we
didn’t hear the gods. Studies show musicians have highly
developed connections between the two halves of their
brains. An ancient musician realizes that she is singing
away the gods, and yet the music still feels like she is
touching magic.
My comment: As a Hindu, I find the above extremely weak
but it may work with Western audiences.
One theory is that we used to hear gods when the two
separated halves of our brain spoke to each other. As the
halves joined, we became more integrated beings, and we
didn’t hear the gods. Studies show musicians have highly
developed connections between the two halves of their
brains. An ancient musician realizes that she is singing
away the gods, and yet the music still feels like she is
touching magic.
My comment: As a Hindu, I find the above extremely weak
but it may work with Western audiences.
DMJoshi
Apr 7, 2012, 3:03:48 AM4/7/12
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Myself Mallu, Yourself?
Apr 7, 2012, 10:14:54 AM4/7/12
to
ras," if not something stronger. Then again, it is very likely that Lady
Kaka simply copy-pasted (without permission) someone else's material, or
some wacko "forwarded" Lady Kaka the material. Macaulay's monkey does
not have any originality when it comes to writing for the newsgroup.
This little bit of copy-paste (likely) is supposed to catch the Divine
Being's attention and subject the newsgroup to infernal force? The
Divine Being is currently melting glaciers in Europe.
Lady Kaka, Poochie and the Divine Being are going to remake "3 Idiots".
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
Apr 7, 2012, 10:15:07 AM4/7/12
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material posted is from Lady Kaka's "original screenplay" (most likely
copy-paste) of the remake of "3 Idiots"? The Divine Being, currently on
a Eurotour powered by lots and lots of internal phorce, is supposed to
respond to Lady Kaka's lame-o caca?
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
Apr 7, 2012, 10:16:45 AM4/7/12
to
DMJoshi
Apr 7, 2012, 3:31:46 PM4/7/12
to
On Apr 7, 3:14 pm, "Myself Mallu, Yourself?" <KalluMallu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Monkey is heartbroken for Bandicoot not returning the calls.
wrote:
> On 4/6/2012 11:07 PM, DMJoshi wrote:
>
> > On Apr 7, 6:42 am, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
> > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>
> >> Your spaceship approaches the asteroid. You know it’s
> >> composition is a bunch of grayish minerals, and in the
> >> dim sunlight it’s dull. When you turn on the ultra-
> >> bright landing spotlights the surface is a riot of
> >> fluorescent reds, greens and blues.
>
> Aila! Lady Kaka wrote this?
No it is copy-paste serialized.
>
> > On Apr 7, 6:42 am, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
> > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>
> >> Your spaceship approaches the asteroid. You know it’s
> >> composition is a bunch of grayish minerals, and in the
> >> dim sunlight it’s dull. When you turn on the ultra-
> >> bright landing spotlights the surface is a riot of
> >> fluorescent reds, greens and blues.
>
> Aila! Lady Kaka wrote this?
Monkey is heartbroken for Bandicoot not returning the calls.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 7, 2012, 8:07:40 PM4/7/12
to
ideabird 4/6/12
Meteor strikes on the moon are common. But material
starts raining down on the moon base, the front edge of a
massive debris field. There are large quantities of black
diamonds, carbonadoes, mixed in. The excitement of the
riches is diminished when its shown that carbonadoes are
made inside supernovae, and these black diamonds are a
precursor of asteroid-sized iron chunks of supernova core
rocketing through our system.
Many more at:
http://theideabird.tumblr.com/
Meteor strikes on the moon are common. But material
starts raining down on the moon base, the front edge of a
massive debris field. There are large quantities of black
diamonds, carbonadoes, mixed in. The excitement of the
riches is diminished when its shown that carbonadoes are
made inside supernovae, and these black diamonds are a
precursor of asteroid-sized iron chunks of supernova core
rocketing through our system.
Many more at:
http://theideabird.tumblr.com/
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 7, 2012, 8:10:02 PM4/7/12
to
ideabird 2/29/12
Eco-terrorists threaten to blow up the dam across the
Golden Gate, the West Coast’s fresh water reserve since
rain stopped falling across the Northwest. Ocean levels
have risen so high, with global warming, that the dam
protects the bay from flooding. The pressure of sea water
against the dam drives the desalinization plant. A team
of aging hackers and army misfits is released from
Manzanar prison to take the terrorists on.
Eco-terrorists threaten to blow up the dam across the
Golden Gate, the West Coast’s fresh water reserve since
rain stopped falling across the Northwest. Ocean levels
have risen so high, with global warming, that the dam
protects the bay from flooding. The pressure of sea water
against the dam drives the desalinization plant. A team
of aging hackers and army misfits is released from
Manzanar prison to take the terrorists on.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 8, 2012, 12:31:59 AM4/8/12
to
Excerpts:
[...]
How do we have insights, and where does inspiration come
from?
[...]
In order to isolate the brain activity that defined the
insight process, Beeman needed to compare moments of
insight to answers that arrived by conscious analysis,
that is, by people methodically testing ideas one at a
time. In conscious analysis, people have a sense of their
progress and can accurately explain their thought
processes. The problem is solved through diligence and
hard work; when the answer arrives, there is nothing
sudden about it.
[...]
More at:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/apr/06/neuroscience-bob-dylan-genius-creativity
[...]
How do we have insights, and where does inspiration come
from?
[...]
In order to isolate the brain activity that defined the
insight process, Beeman needed to compare moments of
insight to answers that arrived by conscious analysis,
that is, by people methodically testing ideas one at a
time. In conscious analysis, people have a sense of their
progress and can accurately explain their thought
processes. The problem is solved through diligence and
hard work; when the answer arrives, there is nothing
sudden about it.
[...]
More at:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/apr/06/neuroscience-bob-dylan-genius-creativity
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
Apr 8, 2012, 1:20:40 AM4/8/12
to
On 4/7/2012 12:31 PM, DMJoshi wrote:
> On Apr 7, 3:14 pm, "Myself Mallu, Yourself?"<KalluMallu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On 4/6/2012 11:07 PM, DMJoshi wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 7, 6:42 am, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>>> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>
>>>> Your spaceship approaches the asteroid. You know it’s
>>>> composition is a bunch of grayish minerals, and in the
>>>> dim sunlight it’s dull. When you turn on the ultra-
>>>> bright landing spotlights the surface is a riot of
>>>> fluorescent reds, greens and blues.
>>
>> Aila! Lady Kaka wrote this?
>
> No it is copy-paste serialized.
>
> Monkey is heartbroken for Bandicoot not returning the calls.
>
Should've guessed. Kakadevi is not cuckoo, she is just a copy-paste
> On Apr 7, 3:14 pm, "Myself Mallu, Yourself?"<KalluMallu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On 4/6/2012 11:07 PM, DMJoshi wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 7, 6:42 am, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>>> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>
>>>> Your spaceship approaches the asteroid. You know it’s
>>>> composition is a bunch of grayish minerals, and in the
>>>> dim sunlight it’s dull. When you turn on the ultra-
>>>> bright landing spotlights the surface is a riot of
>>>> fluorescent reds, greens and blues.
>>
>> Aila! Lady Kaka wrote this?
>
> No it is copy-paste serialized.
>
> Monkey is heartbroken for Bandicoot not returning the calls.
>
fraud. I suppose the article is fresh bait to restart the infernal
phorce injun.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 8, 2012, 1:39:08 AM4/8/12
to
Excerpts:
Every creative journey begins with a problem. It starts
with a feeling of frustration, the dull ache of not being
able to find the answer. When we tell one another stories
about creativity, we tend to leave out this phase of the
creative process. We neglect to mention those days when
we wanted to quit, when we believed that our problems
were impossible to solve. Instead, we skip straight to
the breakthroughs. The danger of telling this narrative
is that the feeling of frustration – the act of being
stumped – is an essential part of the creative process.
Before we can find the answer – before we probably even
know the question – we must be immersed in
disappointment, convinced that a solution is beyond our
reach. It's often only at this point, after we've stopped
searching for the answer, that the answer arrives. All of
a sudden, the answer to the problem that seemed so
daunting becomes incredibly obvious.
This is the clichéd moment of insight that people know so
well from stories of Archimedes in the bathtub and Isaac
Newton under the apple tree. When people think about
creative breakthroughs, they tend to imagine them as
incandescent flashes, like a light bulb going on inside
the brain.
Every creative journey begins with a problem. It starts
with a feeling of frustration, the dull ache of not being
able to find the answer. When we tell one another stories
about creativity, we tend to leave out this phase of the
creative process. We neglect to mention those days when
we wanted to quit, when we believed that our problems
were impossible to solve. Instead, we skip straight to
the breakthroughs. The danger of telling this narrative
is that the feeling of frustration – the act of being
stumped – is an essential part of the creative process.
Before we can find the answer – before we probably even
know the question – we must be immersed in
disappointment, convinced that a solution is beyond our
reach. It's often only at this point, after we've stopped
searching for the answer, that the answer arrives. All of
a sudden, the answer to the problem that seemed so
daunting becomes incredibly obvious.
This is the clichéd moment of insight that people know so
well from stories of Archimedes in the bathtub and Isaac
Newton under the apple tree. When people think about
creative breakthroughs, they tend to imagine them as
incandescent flashes, like a light bulb going on inside
the brain.
DMJoshi
Apr 8, 2012, 2:35:27 AM4/8/12
to
On Apr 8, 6:20 am, "Myself Mallu, Yourself?" <KalluMallu...@gmail.com>
and one after your post.
wrote:
> On 4/7/2012 12:31 PM, DMJoshi wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 7, 3:14 pm, "Myself Mallu, Yourself?"<KalluMallu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On 4/6/2012 11:07 PM, DMJoshi wrote:
>
> >>> On Apr 7, 6:42 am, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
> >>> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>
> >>>> Your spaceship approaches the asteroid. You know it’s
> >>>> composition is a bunch of grayish minerals, and in the
> >>>> dim sunlight it’s dull. When you turn on the ultra-
> >>>> bright landing spotlights the surface is a riot of
> >>>> fluorescent reds, greens and blues.
>
> >> Aila! Lady Kaka wrote this?
>
> > No it is copy-paste serialized.
>
> > Monkey is heartbroken for Bandicoot not returning the calls.
>
> Should've guessed. Kakadevi is not cuckoo, she is just a copy-paste
> fraud. I suppose the article is fresh bait to restart the infernal
> phorce injun.
Kakadevi added 4 more distress calls. £ since my post you replied to
> On 4/7/2012 12:31 PM, DMJoshi wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 7, 3:14 pm, "Myself Mallu, Yourself?"<KalluMallu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On 4/6/2012 11:07 PM, DMJoshi wrote:
>
> >>> On Apr 7, 6:42 am, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
> >>> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>
> >>>> Your spaceship approaches the asteroid. You know it’s
> >>>> composition is a bunch of grayish minerals, and in the
> >>>> dim sunlight it’s dull. When you turn on the ultra-
> >>>> bright landing spotlights the surface is a riot of
> >>>> fluorescent reds, greens and blues.
>
> >> Aila! Lady Kaka wrote this?
>
> > No it is copy-paste serialized.
>
> > Monkey is heartbroken for Bandicoot not returning the calls.
>
> Should've guessed. Kakadevi is not cuckoo, she is just a copy-paste
> fraud. I suppose the article is fresh bait to restart the infernal
> phorce injun.
and one after your post.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 8, 2012, 4:17:31 AM4/8/12
to
ideabird 3/30/12
The Fermi paradox asks: if aliens have existed since the
universe began where are they now? There was an early
alien species that sent probes to possibly inhabitable
worlds which lodge themselves under the crust of the
planet, self-replicate, and sleep. If the surface
develops intelligent life, when they begin to generate a
certain quantity of radio waves the sleepers awaken and
take over the surface, where they send out more probes.
The Fermi paradox asks: if aliens have existed since the
universe began where are they now? There was an early
alien species that sent probes to possibly inhabitable
worlds which lodge themselves under the crust of the
planet, self-replicate, and sleep. If the surface
develops intelligent life, when they begin to generate a
certain quantity of radio waves the sleepers awaken and
take over the surface, where they send out more probes.
Zinnic
Apr 8, 2012, 8:15:38 AM4/8/12
to
On Apr 8, 3:17 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
fiction. Now show us how to change Arindam's fiction into science!
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> ideabird 3/30/12
>
> The Fermi paradox asks: if aliens have existed since the
> universe began where are they now? There was an early
> alien species that sent probes to possibly inhabitable
> worlds which lodge themselves under the crust of the
> planet, self-replicate, and sleep. If the surface
> develops intelligent life, when they begin to generate a
> certain quantity of radio waves the sleepers awaken and
> take over the surface, where they send out more probes.
>
> Many more at:
>
> http://theideabird.tumblr.com/
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> o o o
OK! Your posts demonstrate how easy it is to turn science into
> ideabird 3/30/12
>
> The Fermi paradox asks: if aliens have existed since the
> universe began where are they now? There was an early
> alien species that sent probes to possibly inhabitable
> worlds which lodge themselves under the crust of the
> planet, self-replicate, and sleep. If the surface
> develops intelligent life, when they begin to generate a
> certain quantity of radio waves the sleepers awaken and
> take over the surface, where they send out more probes.
>
> Many more at:
>
> http://theideabird.tumblr.com/
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> o o o
fiction. Now show us how to change Arindam's fiction into science!
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 9, 2012, 1:18:43 AM4/9/12
to
ideabird 3/19/12
A scientist uses atomic decay detectors to build an
insane quantity of random word generators, then speaks a
question out loud. An insane quantity of software filters
finds the generators which randomly give the most
relevant answers. Bad generators are weeded out as
"unlucky" and replaced. This goes on at computer speeds
as long as it takes until there is one random generator
that answers reliably 99.9% percent of the time. Since
the spoken questions have no effect on random words
pulled from atomic decay, the scientist announces the
generator is indistinguishable from a sentient being...
A scientist uses atomic decay detectors to build an
insane quantity of random word generators, then speaks a
question out loud. An insane quantity of software filters
finds the generators which randomly give the most
relevant answers. Bad generators are weeded out as
"unlucky" and replaced. This goes on at computer speeds
as long as it takes until there is one random generator
that answers reliably 99.9% percent of the time. Since
the spoken questions have no effect on random words
pulled from atomic decay, the scientist announces the
generator is indistinguishable from a sentient being...
DMJoshi
Apr 9, 2012, 1:43:44 AM4/9/12
to
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 9, 2012, 1:54:33 AM4/9/12
to
ideabird 3/22/12
A girl who grows up with absolutely nothing grows up to
be a data thief. She wants to own all of the things she
never had, but her job requires that she travel without
any material items.
My comment: She travels to distant galaxies.
A girl who grows up with absolutely nothing grows up to
be a data thief. She wants to own all of the things she
never had, but her job requires that she travel without
any material items.
My comment: She travels to distant galaxies.
DMJoshi
Apr 9, 2012, 2:03:07 AM4/9/12
to
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 9, 2012, 2:10:32 AM4/9/12
to
ideabird 2/27/12 - Oscars Edition
A pair of 1920s shoes with celluloid high-heels is found
in a thrift store in Lyon. A collector from Hollywood
buys them. A team of nano-archaelologists takes them
apart, molecule by molecule, digitizing the chemical
makeup. Computers reassemble the chains of numbers into
images, and reconstruct several minutes of a lost George
Méliès film.
A pair of 1920s shoes with celluloid high-heels is found
in a thrift store in Lyon. A collector from Hollywood
buys them. A team of nano-archaelologists takes them
apart, molecule by molecule, digitizing the chemical
makeup. Computers reassemble the chains of numbers into
images, and reconstruct several minutes of a lost George
Méliès film.
DMJoshi
Apr 9, 2012, 2:27:26 AM4/9/12
to
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 9, 2012, 2:46:28 AM4/9/12
to
ideabird 2/1/12
Traveling through the dead velvet of hyperspace takes
months to the nearest colonies. Bodies are drawn through
the narrow passages in strings of individual pods,
thousands long, each in suspended animation. A tiny
percentage wake up and arrive mad. A Buddhist monk,
trained in meditiation sabotages his pod to experience
the entire ride.
Traveling through the dead velvet of hyperspace takes
months to the nearest colonies. Bodies are drawn through
the narrow passages in strings of individual pods,
thousands long, each in suspended animation. A tiny
percentage wake up and arrive mad. A Buddhist monk,
trained in meditiation sabotages his pod to experience
the entire ride.
DMJoshi
Apr 9, 2012, 2:56:01 AM4/9/12
to
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 9, 2012, 3:22:22 AM4/9/12
to
Ideabird 2/17/12
Every town, every neighborhood, has two or three masked
heroes. They all work for the police or fire departments.
No one has any "super" powers, but some are former
wrestlers, others brilliant detectives, some are charming
politicians. It’s a high-prestige job that attracts the
best people. All of them represent the cities’ pride.
My comment: Some of them are super-scientists.
Every town, every neighborhood, has two or three masked
heroes. They all work for the police or fire departments.
No one has any "super" powers, but some are former
wrestlers, others brilliant detectives, some are charming
politicians. It’s a high-prestige job that attracts the
best people. All of them represent the cities’ pride.
My comment: Some of them are super-scientists.
DMJoshi
Apr 9, 2012, 7:58:39 AM4/9/12
to
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
Apr 9, 2012, 10:12:46 AM4/9/12
to
24/7 in this newsgroup - copy-paste, copy-paste, copy-paste, ... from
websites, articles "forwarded" to Lady Kaka via e-mail (rich that these
people can e-mail but cannot post to the newsgroup). The real killers in
Lady "Data Chorni" Kaka's posts are: the long disclaimer at the end of
copy-paste jobs, the signature about net terrorists and goon squads, and
the occasional bleating about ethics (of the Hindu kind).
Bangdu Arindumb is not like this padrichod haramzaadi. He is la-la land,
rescuing baboons swooning in lagoons, using infernal force and the magic
formula.
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
Apr 9, 2012, 10:24:14 AM4/9/12
to
space via toxic copy-paste, and she is no Buddhist nun trained in
meditation. She is certainly trained in "vedic medication".
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 9, 2012, 1:57:53 PM4/9/12
to
Ideabird 1/25/12
Your spaceship approaches the asteroid. You know it’s
composition is a bunch of grayish minerals, and in the
dim sunlight it’s dull. When you turn on the ultra-
bright landing spotlights the surface is a riot of
fluorescent reds, greens and blues.
My comment: But the most prominent of all is saffron.
Your spaceship approaches the asteroid. You know it’s
composition is a bunch of grayish minerals, and in the
dim sunlight it’s dull. When you turn on the ultra-
bright landing spotlights the surface is a riot of
fluorescent reds, greens and blues.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 9, 2012, 2:19:20 PM4/9/12
to
A previous post:
PUSHPAK VIMAAN - BHARAT'S ANCIENT SPACECRAFT
Forwarded message from durgashakti1...@yahoo.com
[ Subject: pushpak vimaana
[ From: durgashakti1...@yahoo.com
[ Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005
Rense.com
Ancient Indian Spacecraft
And Aircraft Technology
By The Hindu Staff Reporter
1-6-5
Tirupati - 'India had a treasure trove of hitech warfare
technology that even the 'mighty West' does not possess.
The Brahmastra and Vimaan used in the pre-Mahabharat
period are nothing but the earlier versions of today's
nuclear weapons and spacecraft.'
It is this feeling that one would get after listening to
a lecture on 'High Technology in Ancient Sanskrit
Literature' by Mr. C. S. R. Prabhu, senior scientist,
NIC, Hyderabad, on Thursday as part of the three- day
Indo-Nepal Sanskrit Conference, currently underway at the
Rashtriya Sanskrit Vidyapeetha here.
Mr. Prabhu, quoting extensively from ancient texts,
stressed that the pre-Mahabharat period was an age of
high technology, which was ignored in the Medieval period
due to reasons not known.
He quoted from the texts of a great scholar, Subbaraya
Sastry, who, in a state of yogic trance, is said to have
orally dictated the spacecraft technology in a period
somewhere between 1875 and 1919, which was recorded by
his disciples. The text, a copy of which is still in
Nepal's Royal Library, contained technical details on
assembling, fabricating and erecting a spacecraft, the
metals, semi-conductors, advanced alloys used and other
minute aeronautical information. Though quite difficult
to be believed on the face of it, the fact that this
technology did not exist anywhere in the world - not even
in America and Europe - in the mentioned period, makes it
hard for one to disbelieve.
Artwork by James Neff
The technical information given in Sastry's texts was as
minute, precise and clear, as if it were a 'Make your own
spacecraft' or a 'Spacecraft technology in 30 days'
except for the Sanskrit language used, which was very
much archaic and obsolete, Mr. Prabhu said. On a tip on
making an alloy, the text said 'Krishnaseesam Chanjanikam
Vajrathundam samamsathaha' from which the real meaning of
'Vajrathundam' (used in that context), could not be found
in any contemporary Sanskrit dictionary. ''After a great
amount of interaction with ayurvedic specialists and
Swamijis with intuitive interpretations, it turned out to
be the cactus plant,'' he said.
To further strengthen his claim, he said there were wall
paintings in some forts in Rajasthan depicting the use of
rockets in Mughal warfare and even by Tipu Sultan of
Mysore. Another interesting fact he gave was that the
spacecraft could become invisible on its own. The lead
alloy (Thamogarbha loha) used in making the body of the
spacecraft would absorb light around it in a photo
chemical reaction that would make it disappear.
On testing the Krishna seesa metal mentioned in the
formula in the laboratory of Birla Institute of Science,
Hyderabad, Mr. Prabhu found the metal absorbing 78 per
cent of laser light, which means, any other light could
be easily absorbed, giving ample proof that there existed
a technology to make things invisible. Also the use of an
alloy of copper, zinc and lead made the spacecraft's body
resist corrosion by 1000 times over that of the current
levels. Using Ararakamra material for the axle and wheels
had made it possible for taking 'U' turns and serpentine
movements.
An astonishing fact is that the Ararakamra metal was an
alloy of copper, zinc, lead and iron, the combination of
which is impossible, according to modern metallurgy.
Technically, the ''Young's modulus'' of this metal is
said to be higher than that of steel, making it stronger.
As the spacecraft had to be capable of resisting high
temperature, on re-entering our atmosphere from the outer
space, its body was made with a metal called 'Raja Loha'.
Its special feature was that apart from resisting heat,
it converted light from lightnings into energy. To
crosscheck all these details, there were no furnaces
available in Hyderabad to melt metals at a high
temperature of 2500 degrees celcius, Mr. Prabhu lamented.
Another hitch came into his research in the form of the
'energy' used. 'Though the texts explained that the
spacecraft was propelled by 'Sourasakthi', modern solar
technology does not generate so much power to drag a
rocket', he pointed out. Later he found out to his
bewilderment that it was a kind of 'nuclear power' that
was used in those days. 'The solar power, when coupled
with gamma rays produced nuclear energy that had the
power to propel a rocket', Mr. Prabhu observed.
He even spoke on 'Tripura Vimaan' that was used to travel
in space, water and on land, by using the metal 'Trinetra
loha'. Mr. Prabhu said he had submitted the model and
some more information on the 'super metal' to the Indian
Metal Society Conference and further claimed that the
advisor to the government on scientific affairs Dr. A. P.
J. Abdul Kalam too had asked him to bring the design of
the plane.
A committee which was appointed by Indian Institute of
Science to investigate into it, declared Sastry's texts
as 'fraud', but Mr. Prabhu reasons that the descriptions
mentioned in the ancient texts were perhaps too advanced
to believe, making the committee to hastily come to the
conclusion. He wanted a national level effort to prove
that the so called 'myths' were in fact, scientific
formulae on advanced technology. He said he had proposed
a project called 'Bharadwaja Institute of Vedic Science
and Technology', the objective of which was to derive,
decipher and reproduce advanced methodologies and
processes from Vedic and post-Vedic Sanskrit texts, for
which he sought government's support.
More Reading On This Subject -
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_7.htm
http://ebusiness.ada.gov.in/library/library/VymanikaShastra1.htm
End of forwarded message from durgashakti1...@yahoo.com
PUSHPAK VIMAAN - BHARAT'S ANCIENT SPACECRAFT
Forwarded message from durgashakti1...@yahoo.com
[ Subject: pushpak vimaana
[ From: durgashakti1...@yahoo.com
[ Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005
Rense.com
Ancient Indian Spacecraft
And Aircraft Technology
By The Hindu Staff Reporter
1-6-5
Tirupati - 'India had a treasure trove of hitech warfare
technology that even the 'mighty West' does not possess.
The Brahmastra and Vimaan used in the pre-Mahabharat
period are nothing but the earlier versions of today's
nuclear weapons and spacecraft.'
It is this feeling that one would get after listening to
a lecture on 'High Technology in Ancient Sanskrit
Literature' by Mr. C. S. R. Prabhu, senior scientist,
NIC, Hyderabad, on Thursday as part of the three- day
Indo-Nepal Sanskrit Conference, currently underway at the
Rashtriya Sanskrit Vidyapeetha here.
Mr. Prabhu, quoting extensively from ancient texts,
stressed that the pre-Mahabharat period was an age of
high technology, which was ignored in the Medieval period
due to reasons not known.
He quoted from the texts of a great scholar, Subbaraya
Sastry, who, in a state of yogic trance, is said to have
orally dictated the spacecraft technology in a period
somewhere between 1875 and 1919, which was recorded by
his disciples. The text, a copy of which is still in
Nepal's Royal Library, contained technical details on
assembling, fabricating and erecting a spacecraft, the
metals, semi-conductors, advanced alloys used and other
minute aeronautical information. Though quite difficult
to be believed on the face of it, the fact that this
technology did not exist anywhere in the world - not even
in America and Europe - in the mentioned period, makes it
hard for one to disbelieve.
Artwork by James Neff
The technical information given in Sastry's texts was as
minute, precise and clear, as if it were a 'Make your own
spacecraft' or a 'Spacecraft technology in 30 days'
except for the Sanskrit language used, which was very
much archaic and obsolete, Mr. Prabhu said. On a tip on
making an alloy, the text said 'Krishnaseesam Chanjanikam
Vajrathundam samamsathaha' from which the real meaning of
'Vajrathundam' (used in that context), could not be found
in any contemporary Sanskrit dictionary. ''After a great
amount of interaction with ayurvedic specialists and
Swamijis with intuitive interpretations, it turned out to
be the cactus plant,'' he said.
To further strengthen his claim, he said there were wall
paintings in some forts in Rajasthan depicting the use of
rockets in Mughal warfare and even by Tipu Sultan of
Mysore. Another interesting fact he gave was that the
spacecraft could become invisible on its own. The lead
alloy (Thamogarbha loha) used in making the body of the
spacecraft would absorb light around it in a photo
chemical reaction that would make it disappear.
On testing the Krishna seesa metal mentioned in the
formula in the laboratory of Birla Institute of Science,
Hyderabad, Mr. Prabhu found the metal absorbing 78 per
cent of laser light, which means, any other light could
be easily absorbed, giving ample proof that there existed
a technology to make things invisible. Also the use of an
alloy of copper, zinc and lead made the spacecraft's body
resist corrosion by 1000 times over that of the current
levels. Using Ararakamra material for the axle and wheels
had made it possible for taking 'U' turns and serpentine
movements.
An astonishing fact is that the Ararakamra metal was an
alloy of copper, zinc, lead and iron, the combination of
which is impossible, according to modern metallurgy.
Technically, the ''Young's modulus'' of this metal is
said to be higher than that of steel, making it stronger.
As the spacecraft had to be capable of resisting high
temperature, on re-entering our atmosphere from the outer
space, its body was made with a metal called 'Raja Loha'.
Its special feature was that apart from resisting heat,
it converted light from lightnings into energy. To
crosscheck all these details, there were no furnaces
available in Hyderabad to melt metals at a high
temperature of 2500 degrees celcius, Mr. Prabhu lamented.
Another hitch came into his research in the form of the
'energy' used. 'Though the texts explained that the
spacecraft was propelled by 'Sourasakthi', modern solar
technology does not generate so much power to drag a
rocket', he pointed out. Later he found out to his
bewilderment that it was a kind of 'nuclear power' that
was used in those days. 'The solar power, when coupled
with gamma rays produced nuclear energy that had the
power to propel a rocket', Mr. Prabhu observed.
He even spoke on 'Tripura Vimaan' that was used to travel
in space, water and on land, by using the metal 'Trinetra
loha'. Mr. Prabhu said he had submitted the model and
some more information on the 'super metal' to the Indian
Metal Society Conference and further claimed that the
advisor to the government on scientific affairs Dr. A. P.
J. Abdul Kalam too had asked him to bring the design of
the plane.
A committee which was appointed by Indian Institute of
Science to investigate into it, declared Sastry's texts
as 'fraud', but Mr. Prabhu reasons that the descriptions
mentioned in the ancient texts were perhaps too advanced
to believe, making the committee to hastily come to the
conclusion. He wanted a national level effort to prove
that the so called 'myths' were in fact, scientific
formulae on advanced technology. He said he had proposed
a project called 'Bharadwaja Institute of Vedic Science
and Technology', the objective of which was to derive,
decipher and reproduce advanced methodologies and
processes from Vedic and post-Vedic Sanskrit texts, for
which he sought government's support.
More Reading On This Subject -
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_7.htm
http://ebusiness.ada.gov.in/library/library/VymanikaShastra1.htm
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DMJoshi
Apr 9, 2012, 2:45:08 PM4/9/12
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wrote:
Adridum is getting sent to check on asteroid.
wrote:
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Apr 9, 2012, 2:57:48 PM4/9/12
to
I posted the following 19 years ago:
[ Subject: Re: VEDIC SCIENCE
[ From: Jai Maharaj
[ Date: April 1, 1993
RS> What did it to in such a long time, if it was
RS> a science?
Inasmuch as Jyotish, Vedic prediction sciences are
contained in Vedic texts, allow me to enter this post to
illustratively address your question.
In late October, 1992, the U.S. space shuttle Columbia
was testing gold alloys in a metal furnace 160 miles up
in space. According to Dr. Siddharth -- astrophysicist
and head of the Birla Science Center in Hyderabad, India
-- Hindus thousands of years ago were manufacturing and
piloting space-faring vehicles with materials and gear
more advanced than today's engineering.
The assertion of ancient Indian flying and space
technology isn't new. But it has never gained high
altitude in the atmosphere of [modern] science
credibility. However, the Birla Center was created to
investigate technologies and theories buried deep in
ancient Indian literature, mainly science Shastr:,
"manuals."
Siddharth and his colleagues at the Birla Science Center
and the Birla Institute of Scientific Research cooked up
results of alleged millenia-old Hindu technology in their
lab furnaces: exotic alloys, glasses and ceramics. Dr.
Siddharth confidently told Hinduism Today these materials
suggest the early Hindus matched today's "remote imging
and sensing technology or even excelled in certain
respects."
When the Viman: alloys (as mentioned in the Viman:
Prakaranam) were created, Dr. M.C. Ganokar of the Birla
labs compared them to an international alloy table and
discovered that none were on it. They were novel in
combination and properties. Twenty specimens were
produced. One of the alloys -- lead and certain lead
oxides -- was tested by Dr. Robert Anderson of San Jose
State University (California) who beamed laser light into
it. It startled him by completely absorbing the light.
Dr. Ganokar states that this was used as a protective
coating for space craft. Dr. Siddharth states that the
Viman: shastr describes a variety of air and space craft,
and 32 different instruments.
- based on excerpts from "Birla Science Center Claims
Hard Proof of Vedic Space-Voyaging," by C.S.H.N. Murthy;
Hinduism Today; Himalayan Academy; December 1992;
Concord, California.
[ Subject: Re: VEDIC SCIENCE
[ From: Jai Maharaj
[ Date: April 1, 1993
RS> What did it to in such a long time, if it was
RS> a science?
Inasmuch as Jyotish, Vedic prediction sciences are
contained in Vedic texts, allow me to enter this post to
illustratively address your question.
In late October, 1992, the U.S. space shuttle Columbia
was testing gold alloys in a metal furnace 160 miles up
in space. According to Dr. Siddharth -- astrophysicist
and head of the Birla Science Center in Hyderabad, India
-- Hindus thousands of years ago were manufacturing and
piloting space-faring vehicles with materials and gear
more advanced than today's engineering.
The assertion of ancient Indian flying and space
technology isn't new. But it has never gained high
altitude in the atmosphere of [modern] science
credibility. However, the Birla Center was created to
investigate technologies and theories buried deep in
ancient Indian literature, mainly science Shastr:,
"manuals."
Siddharth and his colleagues at the Birla Science Center
and the Birla Institute of Scientific Research cooked up
results of alleged millenia-old Hindu technology in their
lab furnaces: exotic alloys, glasses and ceramics. Dr.
Siddharth confidently told Hinduism Today these materials
suggest the early Hindus matched today's "remote imging
and sensing technology or even excelled in certain
respects."
When the Viman: alloys (as mentioned in the Viman:
Prakaranam) were created, Dr. M.C. Ganokar of the Birla
labs compared them to an international alloy table and
discovered that none were on it. They were novel in
combination and properties. Twenty specimens were
produced. One of the alloys -- lead and certain lead
oxides -- was tested by Dr. Robert Anderson of San Jose
State University (California) who beamed laser light into
it. It startled him by completely absorbing the light.
Dr. Ganokar states that this was used as a protective
coating for space craft. Dr. Siddharth states that the
Viman: shastr describes a variety of air and space craft,
and 32 different instruments.
- based on excerpts from "Birla Science Center Claims
Hard Proof of Vedic Space-Voyaging," by C.S.H.N. Murthy;
Hinduism Today; Himalayan Academy; December 1992;
Concord, California.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 9, 2012, 10:18:01 PM4/9/12
to
"Become a possibilitarian. No matter how dark things seem
to be or actually are, raise your sights and see
possibilities -- always see them, for they're always
there." - Norman Vincent Peale
to be or actually are, raise your sights and see
possibilities -- always see them, for they're always
there." - Norman Vincent Peale
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 10, 2012, 12:35:52 AM4/10/12
to
Flying high - by K R Swamy, Deccan Herald, 2003
[ Subject: FLYING HIGH
[ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
[ Date: Thursday, December 18, 2003
Flying high
Hundred years after Orville Wright's first flight, K R
N SWAMY remembers Shivkur Bapuji Talpade, the Indian who
flew an unmanned aircraft, eight years before Wright
The Deccan Herald
Wednesday, December 17, 2003
Orville Wright demonstrated on December 17th 1903 that
it was possible for a 'manned heavier than air machine
to fly'. But, in 1895, eight years earlier, the Sanskrit
scholar Shivkar Bapuji Talpade had designed a basic
aircraft called Marutsakthi (meaning Power of Air) based
on Vedic technology and had it take off unmanned before
a large audience in the Chowpathy beach of Bombay. The
importance of the Wright brothers lies in the fact, that
it was a manned flight for a distance of 120 feet and
Orville Wright became the first man to fly. But
Talpade's unmanned aircraft flew to a height of 1500
feet before crashing down and the historian Evan
Koshtka, has described Talpade as the 'first creator of
an aircraft'.
As the world observes the one hundredth anniversary of
the first manned flight, it is interesting to consider
the saga of India's 19th century first aircraft inventor
for his design was entirely based on the rich treasury
of India's Vedas. Shivkar Bapuji Talpade was born in
1864 in the locality of Chirabazar at Dukkarwadi in
Bombay.
He was a scholar of Sanskrit and from his young age was
attracted by the Vaimanika Sastra (Aeronautical Science)
expounded by the great Indian sage Maharishi Bhardwaja.
One western scholar of Indology Stephen-Knapp has put in
simple words or rather has tried to explain what Talpade
did and succeeded!
According to Knapp, the Vaimanika Shastra describes in
detail, the construction of what is called, the mercury
vortex engine the forerunner of the ion engines being
made today by NASA. Knapp adds that additional
information on the mercury engines can be found in the
ancient Vedic text called Samaranga Sutradhara. This
text also devotes 230 verses, to the use of these
machines in peace and war. The Indologist William
Clarendon, who has written down a detailed description
of the mercury vortex engine in his translation of
Samaranga Sutradhara quotes thus 'Inside the circular
air frame, place the mercury-engine with its solar
mercury boiler at the aircraft center. By means of the
power latent in the heated mercury which sets the
driving whirlwind in motion a man sitting inside may
travel a great distance in a most marvellous manner.
Four strong mercury containers must be built into the
interior structure. When these have been heated by fire
through solar or other sources the vimana (aircraft)
develops thunder-power through the mercury.
NASA (National Aeronau-tical and Space Administra-tion)
world's richest/ most powerful scientific organisation
is trying to create an ion engine that is a device that
uses a stream of high velocity electrified particles
instead of a blast of hot gases like in present day
modern jet engines. Surprisingly according to the bi-
monthly Ancient Skies published in USA, the aircraft
engines being developed for future use by NASA by some
strange coincidence also uses mercury bombardment units
powered by Solar cells! Interestingly, the impulse is
generated in seven stages. The mercury propellant is
first vapourised fed into the thruster discharge chamber
ionised converted into plasma by a combination with
electrons broke down electrically and then accelerated
through small openings in a screen to pass out of the
engine at velocities between 1200 to 3000 kilometres per
minute! But so far NASA has been able to produce an
experimental basis only a one pound of thrust by its
scientists a power derivation virtually useless. But 108
years ago Talpade was able to use his knowledge of
Vaimanika Shastra to produce sufficient thrust to lift
his aircraft 1500 feet into the air!
According to Indian scholar Acharya, 'Vaimanika Shastra
deals about aeronautics including the design of aircraft
the way they can be used for transportation and other
applications in detail. The knowledge of aeronautics is
described in Sanskrit in 100 sections, eight chapters,
500 principles and 3000 slokas including 32 techniques
to fly an aircraft. In fact, depending on the
classifications of eras or Yugas in modern Kaliyuga
aircraft used are called Krithakavimana flown by the
power of engines by absorbing solar energies!' It is
feared that only portions of Bharadwaja's masterpiece
Vaimanika Shas-tra survive today.
The question that comes to one's mind is, what happened
to this wonderful encyclopaedia of aeronautical
knowledge accumulated by the Indian savants of yore, and
why was it not used? But in those days, such knowledge
was the preserve of sages, who would not allow it to be
misused, just like the knowledge of atomic bombs is
being used by terrorists today!
According to scholar Ratnakar Mahajan who wrote a
brochure on Talpade. 'Being a Sanskrit scholar
interested in aeronautics, Talpade studied and consulted
a number of Vedic treatises like Brihad Vaimanika
Shastra of Maharishi Bharadwaja Vimanachandrika of
Acharya Narayan Muni Viman yantra of Maharish Shownik
Yantra Kalp by Maharishi Garg Muni Viman Bindu of
Acharya Vachaspati and Vimana Gyanarka Prakashika of
Maharishi Dhundiraj'. This gave him confidence that he
can build an aircraft with mercury engines. One
essential factor in the creation of these Vedic aircraft
was the timing of the Suns Rays or Solar energy (as
being now utilised by NASA) when they were most
effective to activate the mercury ions of the engine.
Happily for Talpade Maharaja Sayaji Rao Gaekwad of
Baroda a great supporter of the Sciences in India, was
willing to help him and Talpade went ahead with his
aircraft construction with mercury engines. One day in
1895 (unfortunately the actual date is not mentioned in
the Kesari newspaper of Pune which covered the event)
before an curious scholarly audience headed by the
famous Indian judge/ nationalist/ Mahadeva Govin-da
Ranade and H H Sayaji Rao Gaekwad Talpade had the good
fortune to see his un manned aircraft named as
'Marutsakthi' take off, fly to a height of 1500 feet and
then fall down to earth.
But this success of an Indian scientist was not liked
by the Imperial rulers. Warned by the British Government
the Maharaja of Baroda stopped helping Talpade. It is
said that the remains of the Marutsakthi were sold to
'foreign parties' by the relatives of Talpade in order
to salvage whatever they can out of their loans to him.
Talpade's wife died at this critical juncture and he was
not in a mental frame to continue with his researches.
But his efforts to make known the greatness of Vedic
Shastras was recognised by Indian scholars, who gave him
the title of Vidya Prakash Pra-deep.
Talpade passed away in 1916 un-honoured, in his own
country.
As the world rightly honours the Wright Brothers for
their achievements, we should think of Talpade, who
utilised the ancient knowledge of Sanskrit texts, to fly
an aircraft, eight years before his foreign counterparts.
More at:
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/dec16/snt2.asp
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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[ Subject: FLYING HIGH
[ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
[ Date: Thursday, December 18, 2003
Flying high
Hundred years after Orville Wright's first flight, K R
N SWAMY remembers Shivkur Bapuji Talpade, the Indian who
flew an unmanned aircraft, eight years before Wright
The Deccan Herald
Wednesday, December 17, 2003
Orville Wright demonstrated on December 17th 1903 that
it was possible for a 'manned heavier than air machine
to fly'. But, in 1895, eight years earlier, the Sanskrit
scholar Shivkar Bapuji Talpade had designed a basic
aircraft called Marutsakthi (meaning Power of Air) based
on Vedic technology and had it take off unmanned before
a large audience in the Chowpathy beach of Bombay. The
importance of the Wright brothers lies in the fact, that
it was a manned flight for a distance of 120 feet and
Orville Wright became the first man to fly. But
Talpade's unmanned aircraft flew to a height of 1500
feet before crashing down and the historian Evan
Koshtka, has described Talpade as the 'first creator of
an aircraft'.
As the world observes the one hundredth anniversary of
the first manned flight, it is interesting to consider
the saga of India's 19th century first aircraft inventor
for his design was entirely based on the rich treasury
of India's Vedas. Shivkar Bapuji Talpade was born in
1864 in the locality of Chirabazar at Dukkarwadi in
Bombay.
He was a scholar of Sanskrit and from his young age was
attracted by the Vaimanika Sastra (Aeronautical Science)
expounded by the great Indian sage Maharishi Bhardwaja.
One western scholar of Indology Stephen-Knapp has put in
simple words or rather has tried to explain what Talpade
did and succeeded!
According to Knapp, the Vaimanika Shastra describes in
detail, the construction of what is called, the mercury
vortex engine the forerunner of the ion engines being
made today by NASA. Knapp adds that additional
information on the mercury engines can be found in the
ancient Vedic text called Samaranga Sutradhara. This
text also devotes 230 verses, to the use of these
machines in peace and war. The Indologist William
Clarendon, who has written down a detailed description
of the mercury vortex engine in his translation of
Samaranga Sutradhara quotes thus 'Inside the circular
air frame, place the mercury-engine with its solar
mercury boiler at the aircraft center. By means of the
power latent in the heated mercury which sets the
driving whirlwind in motion a man sitting inside may
travel a great distance in a most marvellous manner.
Four strong mercury containers must be built into the
interior structure. When these have been heated by fire
through solar or other sources the vimana (aircraft)
develops thunder-power through the mercury.
NASA (National Aeronau-tical and Space Administra-tion)
world's richest/ most powerful scientific organisation
is trying to create an ion engine that is a device that
uses a stream of high velocity electrified particles
instead of a blast of hot gases like in present day
modern jet engines. Surprisingly according to the bi-
monthly Ancient Skies published in USA, the aircraft
engines being developed for future use by NASA by some
strange coincidence also uses mercury bombardment units
powered by Solar cells! Interestingly, the impulse is
generated in seven stages. The mercury propellant is
first vapourised fed into the thruster discharge chamber
ionised converted into plasma by a combination with
electrons broke down electrically and then accelerated
through small openings in a screen to pass out of the
engine at velocities between 1200 to 3000 kilometres per
minute! But so far NASA has been able to produce an
experimental basis only a one pound of thrust by its
scientists a power derivation virtually useless. But 108
years ago Talpade was able to use his knowledge of
Vaimanika Shastra to produce sufficient thrust to lift
his aircraft 1500 feet into the air!
According to Indian scholar Acharya, 'Vaimanika Shastra
deals about aeronautics including the design of aircraft
the way they can be used for transportation and other
applications in detail. The knowledge of aeronautics is
described in Sanskrit in 100 sections, eight chapters,
500 principles and 3000 slokas including 32 techniques
to fly an aircraft. In fact, depending on the
classifications of eras or Yugas in modern Kaliyuga
aircraft used are called Krithakavimana flown by the
power of engines by absorbing solar energies!' It is
feared that only portions of Bharadwaja's masterpiece
Vaimanika Shas-tra survive today.
The question that comes to one's mind is, what happened
to this wonderful encyclopaedia of aeronautical
knowledge accumulated by the Indian savants of yore, and
why was it not used? But in those days, such knowledge
was the preserve of sages, who would not allow it to be
misused, just like the knowledge of atomic bombs is
being used by terrorists today!
According to scholar Ratnakar Mahajan who wrote a
brochure on Talpade. 'Being a Sanskrit scholar
interested in aeronautics, Talpade studied and consulted
a number of Vedic treatises like Brihad Vaimanika
Shastra of Maharishi Bharadwaja Vimanachandrika of
Acharya Narayan Muni Viman yantra of Maharish Shownik
Yantra Kalp by Maharishi Garg Muni Viman Bindu of
Acharya Vachaspati and Vimana Gyanarka Prakashika of
Maharishi Dhundiraj'. This gave him confidence that he
can build an aircraft with mercury engines. One
essential factor in the creation of these Vedic aircraft
was the timing of the Suns Rays or Solar energy (as
being now utilised by NASA) when they were most
effective to activate the mercury ions of the engine.
Happily for Talpade Maharaja Sayaji Rao Gaekwad of
Baroda a great supporter of the Sciences in India, was
willing to help him and Talpade went ahead with his
aircraft construction with mercury engines. One day in
1895 (unfortunately the actual date is not mentioned in
the Kesari newspaper of Pune which covered the event)
before an curious scholarly audience headed by the
famous Indian judge/ nationalist/ Mahadeva Govin-da
Ranade and H H Sayaji Rao Gaekwad Talpade had the good
fortune to see his un manned aircraft named as
'Marutsakthi' take off, fly to a height of 1500 feet and
then fall down to earth.
But this success of an Indian scientist was not liked
by the Imperial rulers. Warned by the British Government
the Maharaja of Baroda stopped helping Talpade. It is
said that the remains of the Marutsakthi were sold to
'foreign parties' by the relatives of Talpade in order
to salvage whatever they can out of their loans to him.
Talpade's wife died at this critical juncture and he was
not in a mental frame to continue with his researches.
But his efforts to make known the greatness of Vedic
Shastras was recognised by Indian scholars, who gave him
the title of Vidya Prakash Pra-deep.
Talpade passed away in 1916 un-honoured, in his own
country.
As the world rightly honours the Wright Brothers for
their achievements, we should think of Talpade, who
utilised the ancient knowledge of Sanskrit texts, to fly
an aircraft, eight years before his foreign counterparts.
More at:
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/dec16/snt2.asp
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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or more net terrorists, this post may be reposted several
times.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 10, 2012, 2:21:58 AM4/10/12
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Shree Raam's Vimaan
Forwarded post:
[ Subject: Re: Ramayan TV series shown in 1989?
[ From: Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com>
[ Date: Thursday, June 28, 2007
On Jun 28, 2:55 pm, Stephen_A <sra97s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 29, 1:23 am, "M. Ranjit Mathews" <ranjit_math...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 27, 7:59 pm, Stephen_A <sra97s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your reply, This means that the reference in Wikipedia from
> Philip Lutgendorf, 'The Life of a Text: Performing the Ramcharitmanas
> of Tulsidas' is indeed incorrect.
Thanks for the interest.
Seventy-eight episodes of the serial were indeed aired
during 1987-89. This ended in Rama's "Viman" (aircraft)
landing at Ayodhya, his coronation and celebration.
Since the viewers wanted more, Ramanand Sagar added
another 26 or so episodes dealing with the sad sequel to
the Tulsi Ramayana, in which a pregnant Sita is banished
by King Rama. Sita finds shelter in the Ashram of
Valmiki, bears two sons, Luv and Kush. Years roll by, the
two sons grow up to be warriors, who eventually defeat
their illustrious father, unknown to them. When Sita sees
the captured king, she chides the youths and discloses to
them that Rama is their father, who are granted
forgiveness. A repentant Rama begs Sita's forgiveness,
and requests she return to Ayodhya. A proud Sita refused,
and saying that her mission on earth had been fulfilled,
beckoned Prithivi (the Earth), her mother, to accept her
back. The series ends with Sita descending into the
earth, and the grief-stricken Rama and the two princes
left behind mourning her loss.
Hindus found it difficult to watch the last episodes
without a box of cleenex by their side.
This part ( titled Uttara-Kanda) is a part of the Valmiki
Ramayan. The Ramcharitmanas (Tulsidas') ends with the
coronation.
The synopsis of the first 78 can be found at:
http://www.intelindia.com/mahabharat/synopsis_ramayan.htm
End of forwarded post.
Forwarded post:
[ Subject: Re: Ramayan TV series shown in 1989?
[ From: Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com>
[ Date: Thursday, June 28, 2007
On Jun 28, 2:55 pm, Stephen_A <sra97s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 29, 1:23 am, "M. Ranjit Mathews" <ranjit_math...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 27, 7:59 pm, Stephen_A <sra97s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your reply, This means that the reference in Wikipedia from
> Philip Lutgendorf, 'The Life of a Text: Performing the Ramcharitmanas
> of Tulsidas' is indeed incorrect.
Thanks for the interest.
Seventy-eight episodes of the serial were indeed aired
during 1987-89. This ended in Rama's "Viman" (aircraft)
landing at Ayodhya, his coronation and celebration.
Since the viewers wanted more, Ramanand Sagar added
another 26 or so episodes dealing with the sad sequel to
the Tulsi Ramayana, in which a pregnant Sita is banished
by King Rama. Sita finds shelter in the Ashram of
Valmiki, bears two sons, Luv and Kush. Years roll by, the
two sons grow up to be warriors, who eventually defeat
their illustrious father, unknown to them. When Sita sees
the captured king, she chides the youths and discloses to
them that Rama is their father, who are granted
forgiveness. A repentant Rama begs Sita's forgiveness,
and requests she return to Ayodhya. A proud Sita refused,
and saying that her mission on earth had been fulfilled,
beckoned Prithivi (the Earth), her mother, to accept her
back. The series ends with Sita descending into the
earth, and the grief-stricken Rama and the two princes
left behind mourning her loss.
Hindus found it difficult to watch the last episodes
without a box of cleenex by their side.
This part ( titled Uttara-Kanda) is a part of the Valmiki
Ramayan. The Ramcharitmanas (Tulsidas') ends with the
coronation.
The synopsis of the first 78 can be found at:
http://www.intelindia.com/mahabharat/synopsis_ramayan.htm
End of forwarded post.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 10, 2012, 4:38:53 AM4/10/12
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Ancient Indian Aircraft Technology
telugupeople.com
Article and comments here:
http://www.telugupeople.com/discussion/article.asp?id=2229
telugupeople.com
Article and comments here:
http://www.telugupeople.com/discussion/article.asp?id=2229
DMJoshi
Apr 10, 2012, 5:39:46 AM4/10/12
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Myself Mallu, Yourself?
Apr 10, 2012, 9:16:49 AM4/10/12
to
that Lady Kaka (then known as Chiller Muckeraj) had copy-pasted an older
dissertation on the same subject. During the hearing on plagiarism, Lady
Kaka claimed that the dissertation had been "forwarded" by invisible
force injuns at IITD. The committee granted a Ph.D. on grounds of mercy
- Lady Kaka had been around for centuries and the profs did not want her
to be cremated on IITD campus. The profs were completely amazed by the
kind of "xerox" capability that Lady Kaka had developed.
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
Apr 10, 2012, 9:17:53 AM4/10/12
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On 4/9/2012 11:45 AM, DMJoshi wrote:
> On Apr 9, 3:24 pm, "Myself Mallu, Yourself?"<KalluMallu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On 4/8/2012 11:56 PM, DMJoshi wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 9, 7:46 am, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>>> Monkey Maharaj) wrote:
>>
>>>> Traveling through the dead velvet of hyperspace takes
>>>> months to the nearest colonies. Bodies are drawn through
>>>> the narrow passages in strings of individual pods,
>>>> thousands long, each in suspended animation. A tiny
>>>> percentage wake up and arrive mad. A Buddhist monk,
>>>> trained in meditiation sabotages his pod to experience
>>>> the entire ride.
>>
>> Aila! Lady Kaka has been traveling through the dead velvet of internet
>> space via toxic copy-paste, and she is no Buddhist nun trained in
>> meditation. She is certainly trained in "vedic medication".
>>
>
> On Apr 9, 3:24 pm, "Myself Mallu, Yourself?"<KalluMallu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On 4/8/2012 11:56 PM, DMJoshi wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 9, 7:46 am, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>>> Monkey Maharaj) wrote:
>>
>>>> Traveling through the dead velvet of hyperspace takes
>>>> months to the nearest colonies. Bodies are drawn through
>>>> the narrow passages in strings of individual pods,
>>>> thousands long, each in suspended animation. A tiny
>>>> percentage wake up and arrive mad. A Buddhist monk,
>>>> trained in meditiation sabotages his pod to experience
>>>> the entire ride.
>>
>> Aila! Lady Kaka has been traveling through the dead velvet of internet
>> space via toxic copy-paste, and she is no Buddhist nun trained in
>> meditation. She is certainly trained in "vedic medication".
>>
>
> Adridum is getting sent to check on asteroid.
When with that infernal force injun and the magic formula (Prep H), he
should be checking on his haemorrhoid(s).
Arindam Banerjee
Apr 10, 2012, 2:32:46 PM4/10/12
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On 10 apr, 04:18, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai
I felt really sorry for him after I visited his museum day before
yesterday.
A first rate genius, of the order of da Vinci, was pulled down by his
circling second raters to suicide.
Very sad.
Much better it would have been had he continued with his early
idealism, as he showed in his incredible painting "The Potato
Eaters". What a painter he really was!
I think the huge mobs seeing his works think much the same thing. We
were all so moved by his earliest works.
As for me, re quotays:
Maharaj) wrote:
> "Become a possibilitarian. No matter how dark things seem
> to be or actually are, raise your sights and see
> possibilities -- always see them, for they're always
> there." - Norman Vincent Peale
Good advice, wish van Gogh knew about it.
> "Become a possibilitarian. No matter how dark things seem
> to be or actually are, raise your sights and see
> possibilities -- always see them, for they're always
> there." - Norman Vincent Peale
I felt really sorry for him after I visited his museum day before
yesterday.
A first rate genius, of the order of da Vinci, was pulled down by his
circling second raters to suicide.
Very sad.
Much better it would have been had he continued with his early
idealism, as he showed in his incredible painting "The Potato
Eaters". What a painter he really was!
I think the huge mobs seeing his works think much the same thing. We
were all so moved by his earliest works.
As for me, re quotays:
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 10, 2012, 5:51:05 PM4/10/12
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[ Subject: VAIMANIKA SHASTR
[ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
[ Date: March 27, 2000
Forwarded article
Vaimanika-shastr
"...There is one book entitled Vaimanika-shastr that was
dictated in trance during this century and purports to be
a transcription of an ancient work preserved in the
Akashic record."
"The medium in this case was Pandit Subbaraya Sastry, a
'walking lexicon gifted with occult perception', who
began to dictate the Vaimanika-shastr to Mr. Venkatachala
Sarma on August 1, 1918. The complete work was taken down
in 23 exercise books up to August 23, 1923. In 1923,
Subbaraya Sastry also had a draftsman prepare some
drawings of the vimaans according to his instructions." -
Richard L. Thompson, Alien Identities
According to the Vymanika Shastr, purportedly written by
Maharishi Bharadwaja in the 4th Century BC, there are 32
secrets to piloting a vimaan. These include:
"Maantrika: The invoking of mantras which will permit one
to achieve certain spiritual and hypnotic powers so that
he can construct airplanes which cannot be destroyed.
Taantrika: by acquiring some of the Tantric powers, one
may endow his aircraft with those same powers.
Goodha: This secret permits the pilot to make his vimaan
invisible to his enemies. Adrishya accomplishes the same
purpose by attracting 'the force of the ethereal flow in
the sky'.
Paroksha: This helpful hint enables the pilot to paralyze
other vimaans and put them out of action. Aparoksha: One
may employ this ability to project a beam of light in
front of his craft to light his way.
Viroop Karan: With this skill mastered, the pilot can
produce 'the thirty-second kind of smoke', charge it with
'the light of the heat waves in the sky' and transform
his craft into a 'very fierce and terrifying shape'
guaranteed to cause 'utter fright to onlookers'.
Roopaanara can cause the vimaan to assume such shapes as
those of the lion, tiger, rhinoceros, serpent - even a
mountain- to confuse observers.
Suroop: If one can attract the thirteen kinds of 'Karaka
force', one can make the vimaan appear to be 'a heavenly
damsel bedecked with flowers and jewels'.
Pralaya: This deadly secret pushed electrical force
through the 'five-limbed aerial tube' so that the pilot
may 'destroy everything as in a cataclysm'. Vimukna sends
a poison powder through the air to produce 'wholesale
insensibility and coma'.
Taara: This ability, once mastered, provides the pilot
with another means of avoiding contact with an enemy or
hiding his purpose from observers: 'By mixing with
ethereal force 10 parts of air force, 7 parts of water
force, and 16 parts of solar glow, and projecting it by
means of the star-faced mirror through the frontal tube
of the vimaan, the appearance of a star-spangled sky is
created.'
Saarpa-Gaman: This secret enables the pilot to attract
the forces of air, join them with solar ryas, and pass
the mixture through the center of the craft so the vimaan
will 'have a zig-zagging motion like a serpent'.
Roopaakarshana permits the pilot to see inside an enemy's
airplane, while Kriyaagrahana allows one to spy on 'all
the activities going on down below on the ground'. Jalada
roopa instructs the pilot in the correct proportions of
certain chemicals which will envelop the vimaan and give
it the appearance of a cloud."
- Brad Steiger, Worlds Before Our Own
"Aavartaas or aerial whirlpools are innumerable in the
above regions. Of them the whirlpools in the routes of
the vimaans are five. In the Rekhapathha there occurs the
whirlpool of winds. In Kakshya-pathha there occurs
Kiranavarta or whirlpool from solar rays. In Shaktipathha
there occurs Shytyaavarta or whirlpool of cold currents.
And in Kendrapathha there occurs gharshanavartaor
whirlpool by collision. Such whirlpools are destructive
of vimaans, and have to be guarded against.
"The pilot should now these five sources of danger, and
learn to steer clear of them to safety."
- Vymankia Shastr
"In ancient India the writers of knowledge were careful
to observer every form of change, every pattern of flow -
rest- motion and to describe even the smallest of effects
seen, the causes unseen. Often they spoke of matter that
were beyond the five senses, yet in much detail. It seems
their science was one of experience more than
speculation."
- John Walker, "The Vortex Arena" in Anti-Gravity and
the Unified Field
"Since the siddhis [paranormal powers] are natural
principles, it is possible that machines might be
constructed that take advantage of them, and some vimaans
and UFOs might operate on this basis. Thus, laghima-
siddhi could be used to make the craft weightless, and
mano-java could be used to move it through the ether.
Other vehicles might make use of more familiar mechanical
or electromagnetic propulsion methods, or they might
employ a combination of siddhis and more familiar
principles."
- Richard L. Thompson, Alien Identities
According to the "psychic crystallization theory",
thought forms as independent energy entities "might be
the result of mind blending with a psi substratum".
"Samuel Lentine, a physicist at Rensselaer Polytechnical
Institute, has investigated such 'thought forms', and
claims they can be created by mixing psi energies in the
same way you can create certain chemicals by mixing other
chemicals. Lentine, blind since childhood, found during
meditation that such humanly-created entities can
actually exist by themselves for short periods, causing a
whirl of energy about them."
As G. Patrick Flanagan "has speculated, it is an all-
pervasive 'ether' that actually causes the force of
gravity by the pressure it exerts, and forms electricity
and magnetism by flowing in whirls and eddies."
"...The PK effect could be looked upon as mind not
necessarily intermingling with the physical elements of
an object but altering the etheric or organizing forces
that supposedly shape the material world - the idea that
thoughts are actual things imprinted in the clay of the
universe."
- Michael H. Brown, PK
Plasma: a collective of elementary particles devoid of
atoms which exist at normal temperatures in metals and so
forth. Living organisms are an unusual reservoir and
generator of plasma. Almost any plasma generates
inhomogeneity, pinching itself together into dense,
swirling filaments, separated by diffuse voids.
End of forwarded article.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
[ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
[ Date: March 27, 2000
Forwarded article
Vaimanika-shastr
"...There is one book entitled Vaimanika-shastr that was
dictated in trance during this century and purports to be
a transcription of an ancient work preserved in the
Akashic record."
"The medium in this case was Pandit Subbaraya Sastry, a
'walking lexicon gifted with occult perception', who
began to dictate the Vaimanika-shastr to Mr. Venkatachala
Sarma on August 1, 1918. The complete work was taken down
in 23 exercise books up to August 23, 1923. In 1923,
Subbaraya Sastry also had a draftsman prepare some
drawings of the vimaans according to his instructions." -
Richard L. Thompson, Alien Identities
According to the Vymanika Shastr, purportedly written by
Maharishi Bharadwaja in the 4th Century BC, there are 32
secrets to piloting a vimaan. These include:
"Maantrika: The invoking of mantras which will permit one
to achieve certain spiritual and hypnotic powers so that
he can construct airplanes which cannot be destroyed.
Taantrika: by acquiring some of the Tantric powers, one
may endow his aircraft with those same powers.
Goodha: This secret permits the pilot to make his vimaan
invisible to his enemies. Adrishya accomplishes the same
purpose by attracting 'the force of the ethereal flow in
the sky'.
Paroksha: This helpful hint enables the pilot to paralyze
other vimaans and put them out of action. Aparoksha: One
may employ this ability to project a beam of light in
front of his craft to light his way.
Viroop Karan: With this skill mastered, the pilot can
produce 'the thirty-second kind of smoke', charge it with
'the light of the heat waves in the sky' and transform
his craft into a 'very fierce and terrifying shape'
guaranteed to cause 'utter fright to onlookers'.
Roopaanara can cause the vimaan to assume such shapes as
those of the lion, tiger, rhinoceros, serpent - even a
mountain- to confuse observers.
Suroop: If one can attract the thirteen kinds of 'Karaka
force', one can make the vimaan appear to be 'a heavenly
damsel bedecked with flowers and jewels'.
Pralaya: This deadly secret pushed electrical force
through the 'five-limbed aerial tube' so that the pilot
may 'destroy everything as in a cataclysm'. Vimukna sends
a poison powder through the air to produce 'wholesale
insensibility and coma'.
Taara: This ability, once mastered, provides the pilot
with another means of avoiding contact with an enemy or
hiding his purpose from observers: 'By mixing with
ethereal force 10 parts of air force, 7 parts of water
force, and 16 parts of solar glow, and projecting it by
means of the star-faced mirror through the frontal tube
of the vimaan, the appearance of a star-spangled sky is
created.'
Saarpa-Gaman: This secret enables the pilot to attract
the forces of air, join them with solar ryas, and pass
the mixture through the center of the craft so the vimaan
will 'have a zig-zagging motion like a serpent'.
Roopaakarshana permits the pilot to see inside an enemy's
airplane, while Kriyaagrahana allows one to spy on 'all
the activities going on down below on the ground'. Jalada
roopa instructs the pilot in the correct proportions of
certain chemicals which will envelop the vimaan and give
it the appearance of a cloud."
- Brad Steiger, Worlds Before Our Own
"Aavartaas or aerial whirlpools are innumerable in the
above regions. Of them the whirlpools in the routes of
the vimaans are five. In the Rekhapathha there occurs the
whirlpool of winds. In Kakshya-pathha there occurs
Kiranavarta or whirlpool from solar rays. In Shaktipathha
there occurs Shytyaavarta or whirlpool of cold currents.
And in Kendrapathha there occurs gharshanavartaor
whirlpool by collision. Such whirlpools are destructive
of vimaans, and have to be guarded against.
"The pilot should now these five sources of danger, and
learn to steer clear of them to safety."
- Vymankia Shastr
"In ancient India the writers of knowledge were careful
to observer every form of change, every pattern of flow -
rest- motion and to describe even the smallest of effects
seen, the causes unseen. Often they spoke of matter that
were beyond the five senses, yet in much detail. It seems
their science was one of experience more than
speculation."
- John Walker, "The Vortex Arena" in Anti-Gravity and
the Unified Field
"Since the siddhis [paranormal powers] are natural
principles, it is possible that machines might be
constructed that take advantage of them, and some vimaans
and UFOs might operate on this basis. Thus, laghima-
siddhi could be used to make the craft weightless, and
mano-java could be used to move it through the ether.
Other vehicles might make use of more familiar mechanical
or electromagnetic propulsion methods, or they might
employ a combination of siddhis and more familiar
principles."
- Richard L. Thompson, Alien Identities
According to the "psychic crystallization theory",
thought forms as independent energy entities "might be
the result of mind blending with a psi substratum".
"Samuel Lentine, a physicist at Rensselaer Polytechnical
Institute, has investigated such 'thought forms', and
claims they can be created by mixing psi energies in the
same way you can create certain chemicals by mixing other
chemicals. Lentine, blind since childhood, found during
meditation that such humanly-created entities can
actually exist by themselves for short periods, causing a
whirl of energy about them."
As G. Patrick Flanagan "has speculated, it is an all-
pervasive 'ether' that actually causes the force of
gravity by the pressure it exerts, and forms electricity
and magnetism by flowing in whirls and eddies."
"...The PK effect could be looked upon as mind not
necessarily intermingling with the physical elements of
an object but altering the etheric or organizing forces
that supposedly shape the material world - the idea that
thoughts are actual things imprinted in the clay of the
universe."
- Michael H. Brown, PK
Plasma: a collective of elementary particles devoid of
atoms which exist at normal temperatures in metals and so
forth. Living organisms are an unusual reservoir and
generator of plasma. Almost any plasma generates
inhomogeneity, pinching itself together into dense,
swirling filaments, separated by diffuse voids.
End of forwarded article.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
o o o
About the terrorist Goon Squad:
"Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
<KalluM...@gmail.com> tries his best to be a bully --
telling others what and when to post, where to post and
where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
<us...@this.com>, and issues *death threats* to people),
is priming himself for conditions such as stroke and
heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" <jos...@gmail.com> who
displays unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and
the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
favorite now is "fana...@gmail.com" (note the extra "b"
and "gmail.com") to make it appear as if the posts are
from "fan...@aol.com", who has been a regular poster for
many years. -Updated on February 2, 2012-
About the terrorist Goon Squad:
"Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
<KalluM...@gmail.com> tries his best to be a bully --
telling others what and when to post, where to post and
where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
<us...@this.com>, and issues *death threats* to people),
is priming himself for conditions such as stroke and
heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" <jos...@gmail.com> who
displays unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and
the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
favorite now is "fana...@gmail.com" (note the extra "b"
and "gmail.com") to make it appear as if the posts are
from "fan...@aol.com", who has been a regular poster for
many years. -Updated on February 2, 2012-
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 10, 2012, 9:46:22 PM4/10/12
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"It's hard to have original ideas when you are surrounded
by people who all have the same experiences as you"
- Jonathan Harris, Cowbird
http://hottubcrimemachine.com/2012/04/09/inspirational-quotes-from-psfk-2012/
by people who all have the same experiences as you"
- Jonathan Harris, Cowbird
http://hottubcrimemachine.com/2012/04/09/inspirational-quotes-from-psfk-2012/
DMJoshi
Apr 11, 2012, 2:56:51 AM4/11/12
to
On Apr 10, 10:51 pm, Monkey Maharaj) wrote:
> [ Subject: VAIMANIKA SHASTR
> [ Subject: VAIMANIKA SHASTR
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
Apr 11, 2012, 8:57:44 AM4/11/12
to
On 4/10/2012 11:56 PM, DMJoshi wrote:
> On Apr 10, 10:51 pm, Monkey Maharaj) wrote:
>
>> [ Subject: VAIMANIKA SHASTR
>
So will the Arindumb cut off his ear while riding Lady Kaka's magic
> On Apr 10, 10:51 pm, Monkey Maharaj) wrote:
>
>> [ Subject: VAIMANIKA SHASTR
>
carpet, or will Lady Kaka lose one earring? The drama of infernal force
injuns continues. Stay tuned!
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 11, 2012, 1:52:10 PM4/11/12
to
In article <1d8010d9-9cc2-4f24...@dc2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
Leonardo da Vinci excelled in one more area:
"I shall not make my body a tomb for other animals."
- Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519), Italian polymath,
renaissance luminary, a vegetarian.
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > "Become a possibilitarian. No matter how dark things seem
> > to be or actually are, raise your sights and see
> > possibilities -- always see them, for they're always
> > there." - Norman Vincent Peale
>
>
> Good advice, wish van Gogh knew about it.
> I felt really sorry for him after I visited his museum day before
> yesterday.
> A first rate genius, of the order of da Vinci, was pulled down by his
> circling second raters to suicide.
> Very sad.
> Much better it would have been had he continued with his early
> idealism, as he showed in his incredible painting "The Potato
> Eaters". What a painter he really was!
> I think the huge mobs seeing his works think much the same thing. We
> were all so moved by his earliest works.
> As for me, re quotays:
> [Missing text?]
> > "Become a possibilitarian. No matter how dark things seem
> > to be or actually are, raise your sights and see
> > possibilities -- always see them, for they're always
> > there." - Norman Vincent Peale
>
>
> Good advice, wish van Gogh knew about it.
> I felt really sorry for him after I visited his museum day before
> yesterday.
> A first rate genius, of the order of da Vinci, was pulled down by his
> circling second raters to suicide.
> Very sad.
> Much better it would have been had he continued with his early
> idealism, as he showed in his incredible painting "The Potato
> Eaters". What a painter he really was!
> I think the huge mobs seeing his works think much the same thing. We
> were all so moved by his earliest works.
> As for me, re quotays:
Leonardo da Vinci excelled in one more area:
"I shall not make my body a tomb for other animals."
- Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519), Italian polymath,
renaissance luminary, a vegetarian.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 13, 2012, 5:08:09 PM4/13/12
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World's First Quantum Network Built with Two Atoms, One Photon
Techland
Time
Thursday, April 12, 2012
http://techland.time.com/2012/04/12/worlds-first-quantum-network-built-with-two-atoms-one-photon/
Techland
Time
Thursday, April 12, 2012
http://techland.time.com/2012/04/12/worlds-first-quantum-network-built-with-two-atoms-one-photon/
DMJoshi
Apr 14, 2012, 3:14:47 AM4/14/12
to
On Apr 13, 10:08 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> World's First Quantum Network Built with Two Atoms, One Photon
>
> Techland
> Time
> Thursday, April 12, 2012
>
> http://techland.time.com/2012/04/12/worlds-first-quantum-network-buil...
> World's First Quantum Network Built with Two Atoms, One Photon
>
> Techland
> Time
> Thursday, April 12, 2012
>
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 14, 2012, 4:29:58 AM4/14/12
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Ideabird 4/11/12
The trip to the Kuiper belt was audacious. Using a comet
on its way out, they spread a miles-wide net to catch it,
with thousands of kilometers of carbon-fiber/spider-silk
line spooled behind it. To keep from being shredded when
the comet hit, the line was connected to dynamoes, and
when the line unspooled it would power the batteries, AND
make the impact more manageable. But some nitwit American
was (still) using feet instead of meters in the
calculations, and the drag shifted the comet just enough
that they were put on a collision-course with Jupiter.
Many more at:
http://theideabird.tumblr.com/
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
The trip to the Kuiper belt was audacious. Using a comet
on its way out, they spread a miles-wide net to catch it,
with thousands of kilometers of carbon-fiber/spider-silk
line spooled behind it. To keep from being shredded when
the comet hit, the line was connected to dynamoes, and
when the line unspooled it would power the batteries, AND
make the impact more manageable. But some nitwit American
was (still) using feet instead of meters in the
calculations, and the drag shifted the comet just enough
that they were put on a collision-course with Jupiter.
Many more at:
http://theideabird.tumblr.com/
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
Apr 14, 2012, 12:09:12 PM4/14/12
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mechanics, relativity (special or general), ..., or simply put, physics.
If Newton did not say it, it ain't true, is Arindumb's working
principle. So, quantum optics is off the table for any discussion.
Lady Kaka, on the other hand, is a complete moron. She simply
copy-pasted a story she neither believes in nor understands. Must have
been a slow news day. This ghastly paleolithic bitch makes everything,
including networks, out of cowdung to ensure that newsgroups descend
rapidly (or in her case, rabidly) into cowdung, if not the gutter. All
this for a "dhanyavaad" from Macaulay's mutt in Indiana.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 14, 2012, 7:59:31 PM4/14/12
to
ideabird 2/6/12
We discover the first few alien planets, and are shocked
to find that like the original Star Trek, each society is
human. Not just that, each planet had dinosaurs, comet
crashes, and evolution from shrews to primates to humans.
We all share human DNA with traces of neanderthal. This
revives the idea that maybe we ARE created in God’s
image.
Many more at:
http://theideabird.tumblr.com/tagged/science-fiction
We discover the first few alien planets, and are shocked
to find that like the original Star Trek, each society is
human. Not just that, each planet had dinosaurs, comet
crashes, and evolution from shrews to primates to humans.
We all share human DNA with traces of neanderthal. This
revives the idea that maybe we ARE created in God’s
image.
Many more at:
http://theideabird.tumblr.com/tagged/science-fiction
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 14, 2012, 8:00:25 PM4/14/12
to
ideabird 2/22/12
Alex, an African Gray Parrot, showed not only self-
awaremess, but the ability to speak rationally, and
perform more math than a chimp. In the wild they have
their own society and pre-language. If we encountered
them on another planet we would treat these birds as
alien intelligences. On Earth they are just part of our
spectrum. Do we have an obligation to proselytize parrots
with our society, our language, our religion?
Alex, an African Gray Parrot, showed not only self-
awaremess, but the ability to speak rationally, and
perform more math than a chimp. In the wild they have
their own society and pre-language. If we encountered
them on another planet we would treat these birds as
alien intelligences. On Earth they are just part of our
spectrum. Do we have an obligation to proselytize parrots
with our society, our language, our religion?
Arindam Banerjee
Apr 14, 2012, 10:18:58 PM4/14/12
to
On Apr 7, 4:14 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <699be58e-222a-4faa-bce4-d02ce48bb...@f5g2000vby.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> >> In article <4247aee8-6e96-4845-8fac-74cbf2758...@h9g2000yqe.googlegroups.=
> > com>,
> >> =A0Zinnic <zinnic....@gmail.com> posted:
>
> >>> Dr. Jai Maharaj POSTED:
>
> >>>> In article <769b2a2a-e8df-4c88-a23f-0c7b65a60...@lf20g2000pbb.googleg=
> > roups.com>,
> >>>> Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volcanomail.com> posted:
>
> >>>>> On Mar 28, 1:55=3D3DA0pm,Zinnic<zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Mar 28, 2:17=3D3DA0pm, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volcanomail.=
> > com> w=3D
> >>> rote:
>
> >>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:04=3D3DA0pm,Zinnic<zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:58=3D3DA0pm, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volcanom=
> > ail.co=3D
> >>> m> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> When the values measured in an experiment agree with the va=
> > lues=3D
> >>> =A0that a
> >>>>>>>>> theory says will be measured, then the experiment validates=
> > the
> >>>>>>>>> theory. =3D3DA0No amount of 'interpretation' changes that b=
> > asic f=3D
> >>> act.
>
> >>>>>>>> Not so!
>
> >>>>>>>>> A null result is measured in the MMX. SR predicts a null re=
> > sult=3D
> >>> =A0for
> >>>>>>>>> MMX.
>
> >>>>>>>> Irrelevant because the ballistic emiisionn theory (BaTh) also=
> > pre=3D
> >>> dicts
> >>>>>>>> the null result. The =3D3DA0null result is consistent with bo=
> > th the=3D
> >>> =A0BaTh and
> >>>>>>>> SR, it proves neither.
> >>>>>>>>Zinnic
>
> >>>>>>> It appears that you don't understand the concept of validation.
> >>>>>>> Validation is not proof. =3D3DA0You can never prove a physical =
> > theory
> >>>>>>> because that would require testing it under all possible circum=
> > stan=3D
> >>> ces
> >>>>>>> to an infinite degree of precision. =3D3DA0We can only test a f=
> > inite =3D
> >>> number
> >>>>>>> of cases, and only to a finite precision.
> >>>>>>> When the values measured in an experiment agree with the values=
> > tha=3D
> >>> t a
> >>>>>>> theory says will be measured, then the theory has been validate=
> > d by
> >>>>>>> the experiment. =3D3DA0Depending upon the particulars, the vali=
> > dation=3D
> >>> =A0may be
> >>>>>>> weak or strong, but it is never a proof. =3D3DA0If multiple the=
> > ories
> >>>>>>> accurately predict the same result for a particular experiment,=
> > tha=3D
> >>> t
> >>>>>>> experiment validates all of those theories. =3D3DA0That doesn't=
> > mean =3D
> >>> that
> >>>>>>> any of them is always correct. =3D3DA0When competing theories p=
> > redict
> >>>>>>> different values in a particular circumstance, then an appropri=
> > ate
> >>>>>>> experiment will falsify those that predict incorrectly, and val=
> > idat=3D
> >>> e
> >>>>>>> those that predict correctly. =3D3DA0In general, a theory must =
> > be hig=3D
> >>> hly
> >>>>>>> validated (i.e. many different measurements under many circumst=
> > ance=3D
> >>> s)
> >>>>>>> in order to be accepted as useful. =3D3DA0And of course theorie=
> > s that=3D
> >>> =A0are
> >>>>>>> falsified by experiment are to be discarded.
> >>>>>>> Note also that only repeatable vetted experiments are considere=
> > d
> >>>>>>> meaningful.
>
> >>>>>>> Paul Cardinale
>
> >>>>>> Fair enough. I stand corrected in that I agree that there cannot =
> > be
> >>>>>> absolute proof. However, if two different theories correctly pred=
> > icte=3D
> >>> d
> >>>>>> the same experimental result, I would not claim =3D3DA0that resul=
> > t vali=3D
> >>> dates
> >>>>>> either though I would concede that it invalidates neither.
> >>>>>>Zinnic- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>>>> The semantics can be a bit messy. =3DA0A theory that is validated b=
> > y an
> >>>>> experiment can still be an invalid theory.
> >>>>> If 100 experiments validate a theory (i.e. the measurements agree w=
> > ith
> >>>>> the predictions), and one experiment falsifies the theory, then the
> >>>>> theory is invalid; but those 100 validations still stand (of course
> >>>>> they don't mean much in light of an invalidation by another
> >>>>> experiment.)
>
> >>>>> Note also that all of this assumes a fixed domain of applicability.
> >>>>> You could have a theory that was thought to be generally applicable=
> > ,
> >>>>> but then an experiment shows a case where it doesn't work. =3DA0Tha=
> > t
> >>>>> experiment would falsify it general, but the theory could still be
> >>>>> valid (and useful), in a limited domain of applicability.
>
> >>>>> Paul Cardinale
>
> >>>> A theory may appear to be invalid within a frame but be
> >>>> demonstrably valid in a smaller, larger or different
> >>>> frame. In my use of "frame" I am including all known and
> >>>> yet-to-be-known dimensions, including that of time.
> >>> of any theory in "yet-to-be-known dimensions".
>
> >> "A theory may appear to be invalid..." is not necessarily
> >> a pronouncement of its validity. Note the words "may" and
> >> "necessarily".
> > Hope all is going fine with your script!
> > We are having a fantastic time in Paris. Saw Monet's garden and house
> > in Giverney, took a walking tour and this morning visited the
> > catacombs and Rodin's musuem. Now we will have dinner at the Eiffel
> > tower restaurant, Seine cruise and Moulin Rouge...
> > Life is a dream here, everything is so efficient and lovely. Amazing!
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
>
> My screenwriting initiation is indirectly related to
> Moulin Rouge.
Toulouse-Lautrec was directly related. Showed one way to make money,
by promoting showbiz.
> Where do you go from France?
I have returned this morning, after visiting Amsterdam and
surroundings (Delft, The Hague, Marodam, Vandamen,
Marken and Keukenhof); then to Dusseldorf and Koln (the cathedral
there is a wonder to behold) in Germany.
Flew back to Paris from Dusseldorf, and spent a day in Shanghai
(mostly sleeping I am afraid, but we did eat
good dim sums and bought pottery and other stuff at the airport). It
was a truly fantastic experience, we were very
lucky with the food, the weather, the travel and the hotels - and my
aunt's hospitality in Germany was simply
unbelievable!
Also managed to see a Hindi movie on the flight, AB & HM in "Buddah
hoga tera baap".
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <699be58e-222a-4faa-bce4-d02ce48bb...@f5g2000vby.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> >> In article <4247aee8-6e96-4845-8fac-74cbf2758...@h9g2000yqe.googlegroups.=
> > com>,
> >> =A0Zinnic <zinnic....@gmail.com> posted:
>
> >>> Dr. Jai Maharaj POSTED:
>
> >>>> In article <769b2a2a-e8df-4c88-a23f-0c7b65a60...@lf20g2000pbb.googleg=
> > roups.com>,
> >>>> Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volcanomail.com> posted:
>
> >>>>> On Mar 28, 1:55=3D3DA0pm,Zinnic<zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Mar 28, 2:17=3D3DA0pm, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volcanomail.=
> > com> w=3D
> >>> rote:
>
> >>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:04=3D3DA0pm,Zinnic<zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:58=3D3DA0pm, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volcanom=
> > ail.co=3D
> >>> m> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> When the values measured in an experiment agree with the va=
> > lues=3D
> >>> =A0that a
> >>>>>>>>> theory says will be measured, then the experiment validates=
> > the
> >>>>>>>>> theory. =3D3DA0No amount of 'interpretation' changes that b=
> > asic f=3D
> >>> act.
>
> >>>>>>>> Not so!
>
> >>>>>>>>> A null result is measured in the MMX. SR predicts a null re=
> > sult=3D
> >>> =A0for
> >>>>>>>>> MMX.
>
> >>>>>>>> Irrelevant because the ballistic emiisionn theory (BaTh) also=
> > pre=3D
> >>> dicts
> >>>>>>>> the null result. The =3D3DA0null result is consistent with bo=
> > th the=3D
> >>> =A0BaTh and
> >>>>>>>> SR, it proves neither.
> >>>>>>>>Zinnic
>
> >>>>>>> It appears that you don't understand the concept of validation.
> >>>>>>> Validation is not proof. =3D3DA0You can never prove a physical =
> > theory
> >>>>>>> because that would require testing it under all possible circum=
> > stan=3D
> >>> ces
> >>>>>>> to an infinite degree of precision. =3D3DA0We can only test a f=
> > inite =3D
> >>> number
> >>>>>>> of cases, and only to a finite precision.
> >>>>>>> When the values measured in an experiment agree with the values=
> > tha=3D
> >>> t a
> >>>>>>> theory says will be measured, then the theory has been validate=
> > d by
> >>>>>>> the experiment. =3D3DA0Depending upon the particulars, the vali=
> > dation=3D
> >>> =A0may be
> >>>>>>> weak or strong, but it is never a proof. =3D3DA0If multiple the=
> > ories
> >>>>>>> accurately predict the same result for a particular experiment,=
> > tha=3D
> >>> t
> >>>>>>> experiment validates all of those theories. =3D3DA0That doesn't=
> > mean =3D
> >>> that
> >>>>>>> any of them is always correct. =3D3DA0When competing theories p=
> > redict
> >>>>>>> different values in a particular circumstance, then an appropri=
> > ate
> >>>>>>> experiment will falsify those that predict incorrectly, and val=
> > idat=3D
> >>> e
> >>>>>>> those that predict correctly. =3D3DA0In general, a theory must =
> > be hig=3D
> >>> hly
> >>>>>>> validated (i.e. many different measurements under many circumst=
> > ance=3D
> >>> s)
> >>>>>>> in order to be accepted as useful. =3D3DA0And of course theorie=
> > s that=3D
> >>> =A0are
> >>>>>>> falsified by experiment are to be discarded.
> >>>>>>> Note also that only repeatable vetted experiments are considere=
> > d
> >>>>>>> meaningful.
>
> >>>>>>> Paul Cardinale
>
> >>>>>> Fair enough. I stand corrected in that I agree that there cannot =
> > be
> >>>>>> absolute proof. However, if two different theories correctly pred=
> > icte=3D
> >>> d
> >>>>>> the same experimental result, I would not claim =3D3DA0that resul=
> > t vali=3D
> >>> dates
> >>>>>> either though I would concede that it invalidates neither.
> >>>>>>Zinnic- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>>>> The semantics can be a bit messy. =3DA0A theory that is validated b=
> > y an
> >>>>> experiment can still be an invalid theory.
> >>>>> If 100 experiments validate a theory (i.e. the measurements agree w=
> > ith
> >>>>> the predictions), and one experiment falsifies the theory, then the
> >>>>> theory is invalid; but those 100 validations still stand (of course
> >>>>> they don't mean much in light of an invalidation by another
> >>>>> experiment.)
>
> >>>>> Note also that all of this assumes a fixed domain of applicability.
> >>>>> You could have a theory that was thought to be generally applicable=
> > ,
> >>>>> but then an experiment shows a case where it doesn't work. =3DA0Tha=
> > t
> >>>>> experiment would falsify it general, but the theory could still be
> >>>>> valid (and useful), in a limited domain of applicability.
>
> >>>>> Paul Cardinale
>
> >>>> A theory may appear to be invalid within a frame but be
> >>>> demonstrably valid in a smaller, larger or different
> >>>> frame. In my use of "frame" I am including all known and
> >>>> yet-to-be-known dimensions, including that of time.
>
> >>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >>>> Om Shanti
>
> >>> You need to explain how you are qualified to pronounce on the validity
> >>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >>>> Om Shanti
>
> >>> of any theory in "yet-to-be-known dimensions".
>
> >> "A theory may appear to be invalid..." is not necessarily
> >> a pronouncement of its validity. Note the words "may" and
> >> "necessarily".
>
> >> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> Om Shanti
>
> > Hello Jai,
> >> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> >> Om Shanti
>
> > Hope all is going fine with your script!
> > We are having a fantastic time in Paris. Saw Monet's garden and house
> > in Giverney, took a walking tour and this morning visited the
> > catacombs and Rodin's musuem. Now we will have dinner at the Eiffel
> > tower restaurant, Seine cruise and Moulin Rouge...
> > Life is a dream here, everything is so efficient and lovely. Amazing!
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
>
> My screenwriting initiation is indirectly related to
> Moulin Rouge.
Toulouse-Lautrec was directly related. Showed one way to make money,
by promoting showbiz.
> Where do you go from France?
I have returned this morning, after visiting Amsterdam and
surroundings (Delft, The Hague, Marodam, Vandamen,
Marken and Keukenhof); then to Dusseldorf and Koln (the cathedral
there is a wonder to behold) in Germany.
Flew back to Paris from Dusseldorf, and spent a day in Shanghai
(mostly sleeping I am afraid, but we did eat
good dim sums and bought pottery and other stuff at the airport). It
was a truly fantastic experience, we were very
lucky with the food, the weather, the travel and the hotels - and my
aunt's hospitality in Germany was simply
unbelievable!
Also managed to see a Hindi movie on the flight, AB & HM in "Buddah
hoga tera baap".
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Arindam Banerjee
Apr 14, 2012, 10:38:54 PM4/14/12
to
On 12 Apr, 03:52, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai
Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <1d8010d9-9cc2-4f24-a456-92c8e5f0f...@dc2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
span in the interent cafe in the Dam at Amsterdam. Continuing:
To quote myself, some of my worst but pungent lines go thusly:
"So I said, fuck 'em, fuck 'em all.
With those jerks I'll not play ball."
That's the way to treat the envious second raters and worse (ill-
learned phuds, quotays, cowards, etc.), but one needs to be confident
of oneself and support from the woman helps greatly.
Sadly, van Gogh was lacking in both areas.
Had he gone the way he began, he would have been a super-Picasso.
Here too I am referring to the early Picasso.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <1d8010d9-9cc2-4f24-a456-92c8e5f0f...@dc2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > > "Become a possibilitarian. No matter how dark things seem
> > > to be or actually are, raise your sights and see
> > > possibilities -- always see them, for they're always
> > > there." - Norman Vincent Peale
>
> > Good advice, wish van Gogh knew about it.
> > I felt really sorry for him after I visited his museum day before
> > yesterday.
> > A first rate genius, of the order of da Vinci, was pulled down by his
> > circling second raters to suicide.
> > Very sad.
> > Much better it would have been had he continued with his early
> > idealism, as he showed in his incredible painting "The Potato
> > Eaters". What a painter he really was!
> > I think the huge mobs seeing his works think much the same thing. We
> > were all so moved by his earliest works.
> > As for me, re quotays:
> > [Missing text?]
Shortage of time then, we were running out of time in the one-hour
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > > "Become a possibilitarian. No matter how dark things seem
> > > to be or actually are, raise your sights and see
> > > possibilities -- always see them, for they're always
> > > there." - Norman Vincent Peale
>
> > Good advice, wish van Gogh knew about it.
> > I felt really sorry for him after I visited his museum day before
> > yesterday.
> > A first rate genius, of the order of da Vinci, was pulled down by his
> > circling second raters to suicide.
> > Very sad.
> > Much better it would have been had he continued with his early
> > idealism, as he showed in his incredible painting "The Potato
> > Eaters". What a painter he really was!
> > I think the huge mobs seeing his works think much the same thing. We
> > were all so moved by his earliest works.
> > As for me, re quotays:
> > [Missing text?]
span in the interent cafe in the Dam at Amsterdam. Continuing:
To quote myself, some of my worst but pungent lines go thusly:
"So I said, fuck 'em, fuck 'em all.
With those jerks I'll not play ball."
That's the way to treat the envious second raters and worse (ill-
learned phuds, quotays, cowards, etc.), but one needs to be confident
of oneself and support from the woman helps greatly.
Sadly, van Gogh was lacking in both areas.
Had he gone the way he began, he would have been a super-Picasso.
Here too I am referring to the early Picasso.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 14, 2012, 10:57:23 PM4/14/12
to
In article <6925f78f-bf00-4416...@a8g2000pbe.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <699be58e-222a-4faa-bce4-d02ce48bb...@f5g2000vby.googlegroups.=
> com>,
> > =A0Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> > >> In article <4247aee8-6e96-4845-8fac-74cbf2758...@h9g2000yqe.googlegrou=
> ps.=3D
> > > com>,
> > >> =3DA0Zinnic <zinnic....@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > >>> Dr. Jai Maharaj POSTED:
> >
> > >>>> In article <769b2a2a-e8df-4c88-a23f-0c7b65a60...@lf20g2000pbb.google=
> g=3D
> > >>>>> On Mar 28, 1:55=3D3D3DA0pm,Zinnic<zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Mar 28, 2:17=3D3D3DA0pm, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volcanomail=
> ..=3D
> > > com> w=3D3D
> > >>> rote:
> >
> > >>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:04=3D3D3DA0pm,Zinnic<zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:58=3D3D3DA0pm, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volcanom=
> =3D
> > > ail.co=3D3D
> > >>> m> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> When the values measured in an experiment agree with the va=3D
> > > lues=3D3D
> > >>> =3DA0that a
> > >>>>>>>>> theory says will be measured, then the experiment validates=3D
> > > =A0the
> > >>>>>>>>> theory. =3D3D3DA0No amount of 'interpretation' changes that b=
> =3D
> > > asic f=3D3D
> > >>> act.
> >
> > >>>>>>>> Not so!
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> A null result is measured in the MMX. SR predicts a null re=3D
> > > sult=3D3D
> > >>> =3DA0for
> > >>>>>>>>> MMX.
> >
> > >>>>>>>> Irrelevant because the ballistic emiisionn theory (BaTh) also=3D
> > > =A0pre=3D3D
> > >>> dicts
> > >>>>>>>> the null result. The =3D3D3DA0null result is consistent with bo=
> =3D
> > > th the=3D3D
> > >>> =3DA0BaTh and
> =3D
> > > stan=3D3D
> > >>> ces
> > >>>>>>> to an infinite degree of precision. =3D3D3DA0We can only test a f=
> =3D
> > > inite =3D3D
> > > =A0tha=3D3D
> > > d by
> > >>>>>>> the experiment. =3D3D3DA0Depending upon the particulars, the vali=
> =3D
> > > dation=3D3D
> > >>> =3DA0may be
> > >>>>>>> weak or strong, but it is never a proof. =3D3D3DA0If multiple the=
> =3D
> > > =A0tha=3D3D
> > >>> t
> > >>>>>>> experiment validates all of those theories. =3D3D3DA0That doesn't=
> =3D
> > > =A0mean =3D3D
> > >>> that
> > >>>>>>> any of them is always correct. =3D3D3DA0When competing theories p=
> =3D
> > > idat=3D3D
> > >>> e
> > >>>>>>> those that predict correctly. =3D3D3DA0In general, a theory must =
> =3D
> > > be hig=3D3D
> > > ance=3D3D
> > >>> s)
> > >>>>>>> in order to be accepted as useful. =3D3D3DA0And of course theorie=
> =3D
> > > s that=3D3D
> > >>> =3DA0are
> > > icte=3D3D
> > >>> d
> > >>>>>> the same experimental result, I would not claim =3D3D3DA0that resu=
> l=3D
> > > t vali=3D3D
> b=3D
> > > ,
> > >>>>> but then an experiment shows a case where it doesn't work. =3D3DA0T=
> ha=3D
> > Where do you go from France?
>
> I have returned this morning, after visiting Amsterdam and
> surroundings (Delft, The Hague, Marodam, Vandamen,
> Marken and Keukenhof); then to Dusseldorf and Koln (the cathedral
> there is a wonder to behold) in Germany.
> Flew back to Paris from Dusseldorf, and spent a day in Shanghai
> (mostly sleeping I am afraid, but we did eat
> good dim sums and bought pottery and other stuff at the airport). It
> was a truly fantastic experience, we were very
> lucky with the food, the weather, the travel and the hotels - and my
> aunt's hospitality in Germany was simply
> unbelievable!
> Also managed to see a Hindi movie on the flight, AB & HM in "Buddah
> hoga tera baap".
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
An Eiffel Tower effect:
http://i.imgur.com/QJh5X.jpg
What's next for you, South America?
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <699be58e-222a-4faa-bce4-d02ce48bb...@f5g2000vby.googlegroups.=
> com>,
> > =A0Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> > >> In article <4247aee8-6e96-4845-8fac-74cbf2758...@h9g2000yqe.googlegrou=
> ps.=3D
> > > com>,
> > >> =3DA0Zinnic <zinnic....@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > >>> Dr. Jai Maharaj POSTED:
> >
> > >>>> In article <769b2a2a-e8df-4c88-a23f-0c7b65a60...@lf20g2000pbb.google=
> g=3D
> > >>>>> On Mar 28, 1:55=3D3D3DA0pm,Zinnic<zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Mar 28, 2:17=3D3D3DA0pm, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volcanomail=
> ..=3D
> > > com> w=3D3D
> > >>> rote:
> >
> > >>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:04=3D3D3DA0pm,Zinnic<zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:58=3D3D3DA0pm, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volcanom=
> =3D
> > > ail.co=3D3D
> > >>> m> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> When the values measured in an experiment agree with the va=3D
> > > lues=3D3D
> > >>> =3DA0that a
> > >>>>>>>>> theory says will be measured, then the experiment validates=3D
> > > =A0the
> > >>>>>>>>> theory. =3D3D3DA0No amount of 'interpretation' changes that b=
> =3D
> > > asic f=3D3D
> > >>> act.
> >
> > >>>>>>>> Not so!
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> A null result is measured in the MMX. SR predicts a null re=3D
> > > sult=3D3D
> > >>> =3DA0for
> > >>>>>>>>> MMX.
> >
> > >>>>>>>> Irrelevant because the ballistic emiisionn theory (BaTh) also=3D
> > > =A0pre=3D3D
> > >>> dicts
> > >>>>>>>> the null result. The =3D3D3DA0null result is consistent with bo=
> =3D
> > > th the=3D3D
> > >>> =3DA0BaTh and
> > >>>>>>>> SR, it proves neither.
> > >>>>>>>>Zinnic
> >
> > >>>>>>> It appears that you don't understand the concept of validation.
> > >>>>>>> Validation is not proof. =3D3D3DA0You can never prove a physical =
> > >>>>>>>>Zinnic
> >
> > >>>>>>> It appears that you don't understand the concept of validation.
> =3D
> > > theory
> > >>>>>>> because that would require testing it under all possible circum=
> =3D
> > >>>>>>> because that would require testing it under all possible circum=
> > > stan=3D3D
> > >>> ces
> > >>>>>>> to an infinite degree of precision. =3D3D3DA0We can only test a f=
> =3D
> > > inite =3D3D
> > >>> number
> > >>>>>>> of cases, and only to a finite precision.
> > >>>>>>> When the values measured in an experiment agree with the values=
> =3D
> > >>>>>>> of cases, and only to a finite precision.
> > >>>>>>> When the values measured in an experiment agree with the values=
> > > =A0tha=3D3D
> > >>> t a
> > >>>>>>> theory says will be measured, then the theory has been validate=
> =3D
> > >>>>>>> theory says will be measured, then the theory has been validate=
> > > d by
> > >>>>>>> the experiment. =3D3D3DA0Depending upon the particulars, the vali=
> =3D
> > > dation=3D3D
> > >>> =3DA0may be
> > >>>>>>> weak or strong, but it is never a proof. =3D3D3DA0If multiple the=
> =3D
> > > ories
> > >>>>>>> accurately predict the same result for a particular experiment,=
> =3D
> > >>>>>>> accurately predict the same result for a particular experiment,=
> > > =A0tha=3D3D
> > >>> t
> > >>>>>>> experiment validates all of those theories. =3D3D3DA0That doesn't=
> =3D
> > > =A0mean =3D3D
> > >>> that
> > >>>>>>> any of them is always correct. =3D3D3DA0When competing theories p=
> =3D
> > > redict
> > >>>>>>> different values in a particular circumstance, then an appropri=
> =3D
> > >>>>>>> different values in a particular circumstance, then an appropri=
> > > ate
> > >>>>>>> experiment will falsify those that predict incorrectly, and val=
> =3D
> > >>>>>>> experiment will falsify those that predict incorrectly, and val=
> > > idat=3D3D
> > >>> e
> > >>>>>>> those that predict correctly. =3D3D3DA0In general, a theory must =
> =3D
> > > be hig=3D3D
> > >>> hly
> > >>>>>>> validated (i.e. many different measurements under many circumst=
> =3D
> > >>>>>>> validated (i.e. many different measurements under many circumst=
> > > ance=3D3D
> > >>> s)
> > >>>>>>> in order to be accepted as useful. =3D3D3DA0And of course theorie=
> =3D
> > > s that=3D3D
> > >>> =3DA0are
> > >>>>>>> falsified by experiment are to be discarded.
> > >>>>>>> Note also that only repeatable vetted experiments are considere=
> =3D
> > >>>>>>> Note also that only repeatable vetted experiments are considere=
> > > d
> > >>>>>>> meaningful.
> >
> > >>>>>>> Paul Cardinale
> >
> > >>>>>> Fair enough. I stand corrected in that I agree that there cannot =
> =3D
> > >>>>>>> meaningful.
> >
> > >>>>>>> Paul Cardinale
> >
> > >>>>>> Fair enough. I stand corrected in that I agree that there cannot =
> > > be
> > >>>>>> absolute proof. However, if two different theories correctly pred=
> =3D
> > >>>>>> absolute proof. However, if two different theories correctly pred=
> > > icte=3D3D
> > >>> d
> > >>>>>> the same experimental result, I would not claim =3D3D3DA0that resu=
> l=3D
> > > t vali=3D3D
> > >>> dates
> > >>>>>> either though I would concede that it invalidates neither.
> > >>>>>>Zinnic- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > >>>>> The semantics can be a bit messy. =3D3DA0A theory that is validated=
> > >>>>>> either though I would concede that it invalidates neither.
> > >>>>>>Zinnic- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >
> b=3D
> > > y an
> > >>>>> experiment can still be an invalid theory.
> > >>>>> If 100 experiments validate a theory (i.e. the measurements agree w=
> =3D
> > >>>>> experiment can still be an invalid theory.
> > >>>>> If 100 experiments validate a theory (i.e. the measurements agree w=
> > > ith
> > >>>>> the predictions), and one experiment falsifies the theory, then the
> > >>>>> theory is invalid; but those 100 validations still stand (of course
> > >>>>> they don't mean much in light of an invalidation by another
> > >>>>> experiment.)
> >
> > >>>>> Note also that all of this assumes a fixed domain of applicability.
> > >>>>> You could have a theory that was thought to be generally applicable=
> =3D
> > >>>>> the predictions), and one experiment falsifies the theory, then the
> > >>>>> theory is invalid; but those 100 validations still stand (of course
> > >>>>> they don't mean much in light of an invalidation by another
> > >>>>> experiment.)
> >
> > >>>>> Note also that all of this assumes a fixed domain of applicability.
> > >>>>> You could have a theory that was thought to be generally applicable=
> > > ,
> > >>>>> but then an experiment shows a case where it doesn't work. =3D3DA0T=
> ha=3D
> > > t
> > >>>>> experiment would falsify it general, but the theory could still be
> > >>>>> valid (and useful), in a limited domain of applicability.
> >
> > >>>>> Paul Cardinale
> >
> > >>>> A theory may appear to be invalid within a frame but be
> > >>>> demonstrably valid in a smaller, larger or different
> > >>>> frame. In my use of "frame" I am including all known and
> > >>>> yet-to-be-known dimensions, including that of time.
> >
> > >>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > >>>> Om Shanti
> >
> > >>> You need to explain how you are qualified to pronounce on the validit=
> > >>>>> experiment would falsify it general, but the theory could still be
> > >>>>> valid (and useful), in a limited domain of applicability.
> >
> > >>>>> Paul Cardinale
> >
> > >>>> A theory may appear to be invalid within a frame but be
> > >>>> demonstrably valid in a smaller, larger or different
> > >>>> frame. In my use of "frame" I am including all known and
> > >>>> yet-to-be-known dimensions, including that of time.
> >
> > >>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > >>>> Om Shanti
> >
> y
> > >>> of any theory in "yet-to-be-known dimensions".
> >
> > >> "A theory may appear to be invalid..." is not necessarily
> > >> a pronouncement of its validity. Note the words "may" and
> > >> "necessarily".
> >
> > >> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > >> Om Shanti
> >
> > > Hello Jai,
> > > Hope all is going fine with your script!
> > > We are having a fantastic time in Paris. =A0Saw Monet's garden and hous=
> > >>> of any theory in "yet-to-be-known dimensions".
> >
> > >> "A theory may appear to be invalid..." is not necessarily
> > >> a pronouncement of its validity. Note the words "may" and
> > >> "necessarily".
> >
> > >> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > >> Om Shanti
> >
> > > Hello Jai,
> > > Hope all is going fine with your script!
> e
> > > in Giverney, took a walking tour and this morning visited the
> > > catacombs and Rodin's musuem. =A0Now we will have dinner at the Eiffel
> > > in Giverney, took a walking tour and this morning visited the
> > > tower restaurant, Seine cruise and Moulin Rouge...
> > > Life is a dream here, everything is so efficient and lovely. =A0Amazing=
> !
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > My screenwriting initiation is indirectly related to
> > Moulin Rouge.
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > My screenwriting initiation is indirectly related to
> > Moulin Rouge.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
>
> > Om Shanti
>
>
> Toulouse-Lautrec was directly related. Showed one way to make money,
> by promoting showbiz.
Most of which now begins with a $creenplay.
> by promoting showbiz.
> > Where do you go from France?
>
> I have returned this morning, after visiting Amsterdam and
> surroundings (Delft, The Hague, Marodam, Vandamen,
> Marken and Keukenhof); then to Dusseldorf and Koln (the cathedral
> there is a wonder to behold) in Germany.
> Flew back to Paris from Dusseldorf, and spent a day in Shanghai
> (mostly sleeping I am afraid, but we did eat
> good dim sums and bought pottery and other stuff at the airport). It
> was a truly fantastic experience, we were very
> lucky with the food, the weather, the travel and the hotels - and my
> aunt's hospitality in Germany was simply
> unbelievable!
> Also managed to see a Hindi movie on the flight, AB & HM in "Buddah
> hoga tera baap".
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
http://i.imgur.com/QJh5X.jpg
What's next for you, South America?
Arindam Banerjee
Apr 15, 2012, 7:13:50 AM4/15/12
to
On Apr 15, 12:57 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <6925f78f-bf00-4416-94db-4a90be11e...@a8g2000pbe.googlegroups.com>,
Not for me, yet. I have a very good scout for that part of the world!
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <6925f78f-bf00-4416-94db-4a90be11e...@a8g2000pbe.googlegroups.com>,
DMJoshi
Apr 15, 2012, 10:03:04 AM4/15/12
to
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 15, 2012, 1:05:29 PM4/15/12
to
In article <7f398624-90ff-4f46...@px4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <6925f78f-bf00-4416-94db-4a90be11e...@a8g2000pbe.googlegroups.=
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > In article <699be58e-222a-4faa-bce4-d02ce48bb...@f5g2000vby.googlegro=
> ups.=3D
> > > com>,
> > > > =3DA0Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> > > > >> In article <4247aee8-6e96-4845-8fac-74cbf2758...@h9g2000yqe.google=
> grou=3D
> > > ps.=3D3D
> > > > > com>,
> > > > >> =3D3DA0Zinnic <zinnic....@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > > >>> Dr. Jai Maharaj POSTED:
> >
> > > > >>>> In article <769b2a2a-e8df-4c88-a23f-0c7b65a60...@lf20g2000pbb.go=
> ogle=3D
> > > g=3D3D
> > > > >>>>> On Mar 28, 1:55=3D3D3D3DA0pm,Zinnic<zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote=
> :
> > > > >>>>>> On Mar 28, 2:17=3D3D3D3DA0pm, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volca=
> nomail=3D
> > > ..=3D3D
> > > > > com> w=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> rote:
> >
> > > > >>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:04=3D3D3D3DA0pm,Zinnic<zinnic....@gmail.com> wro=
> te:
> >
> > > > >>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:58=3D3D3D3DA0pm, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@vol=
> canom=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > ail.co=3D3D3D
> > > > > lues=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> =3D3DA0that a
> > > > > =3DA0the
> > > > >>>>>>>>> theory. =3D3D3D3DA0No amount of 'interpretation' changes th=
> at b=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > asic f=3D3D3D
> > > > > sult=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> =3D3DA0for
> > > > >>>>>>>>> MMX.
> >
> > > > >>>>>>>> Irrelevant because the ballistic emiisionn theory (BaTh) als=
> o=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0pre=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> dicts
> > > > >>>>>>>> the null result. The =3D3D3D3DA0null result is consistent wi=
> th bo=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > th the=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> =3D3DA0BaTh and
> n.
> > > > >>>>>>> Validation is not proof. =3D3D3D3DA0You can never prove a phy=
> sical =3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > theory
> > > > >>>>>>> because that would require testing it under all possible circ=
> um=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > stan=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> ces
> > > > >>>>>>> to an infinite degree of precision. =3D3D3D3DA0We can only te=
> st a f=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > inite =3D3D3D
> es=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0tha=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> t a
> > > > >>>>>>> theory says will be measured, then the theory has been valida=
> te=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > d by
> > > > >>>>>>> the experiment. =3D3D3D3DA0Depending upon the particulars, th=
> e vali=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > dation=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> =3D3DA0may be
> > > > >>>>>>> weak or strong, but it is never a proof. =3D3D3D3DA0If multip=
> le the=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > ories
> > > > >>>>>>> accurately predict the same result for a particular experimen=
> t,=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0tha=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> t
> > > > >>>>>>> experiment validates all of those theories. =3D3D3D3DA0That d=
> oesn't=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0mean =3D3D3D
> > > > >>> that
> > > > >>>>>>> any of them is always correct. =3D3D3D3DA0When competing theo=
> ries p=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > redict
> > > > >>>>>>> different values in a particular circumstance, then an approp=
> ri=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > ate
> > > > >>>>>>> experiment will falsify those that predict incorrectly, and v=
> al=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > idat=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> e
> > > > >>>>>>> those that predict correctly. =3D3D3D3DA0In general, a theory=
> must =3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > be hig=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> hly
> > > > >>>>>>> validated (i.e. many different measurements under many circum=
> st=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > ance=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> s)
> > > > >>>>>>> in order to be accepted as useful. =3D3D3D3DA0And of course t=
> heorie=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > s that=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> =3D3DA0are
> re=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > d
> > > > >>>>>>> meaningful.
> >
> > > > >>>>>>> Paul Cardinale
> >
> > > > >>>>>> Fair enough. I stand corrected in that I agree that there cann=
> ot =3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > be
> > > > >>>>>> absolute proof. However, if two different theories correctly p=
> red=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > icte=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> d
> > > > >>>>>> the same experimental result, I would not claim =3D3D3D3DA0tha=
> t resu=3D
> > > l=3D3D
> > > > > t vali=3D3D3D
> idated=3D
> > > =A0b=3D3D
> ee w=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > ith
> > > > >>>>> the predictions), and one experiment falsifies the theory, then=
> the
> > > > >>>>> theory is invalid; but those 100 validations still stand (of co=
> ity.
> > > > >>>>> You could have a theory that was thought to be generally applic=
> able=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > ,
> > > > >>>>> but then an experiment shows a case where it doesn't work. =3D3=
> D3DA0T=3D
> > > ha=3D3D
> > > > > t
> > > > >>>>> experiment would falsify it general, but the theory could still=
> idit=3D
> d hous=3D
> mazing=3D
among folks who live in Hawaii.
Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <6925f78f-bf00-4416-94db-4a90be11e...@a8g2000pbe.googlegroups.=
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > In article <699be58e-222a-4faa-bce4-d02ce48bb...@f5g2000vby.googlegro=
> ups.=3D
> > > com>,
> > > > =3DA0Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
> > > > >> In article <4247aee8-6e96-4845-8fac-74cbf2758...@h9g2000yqe.google=
> grou=3D
> > > ps.=3D3D
> > > > > com>,
> > > > >> =3D3DA0Zinnic <zinnic....@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > > >>> Dr. Jai Maharaj POSTED:
> >
> > > > >>>> In article <769b2a2a-e8df-4c88-a23f-0c7b65a60...@lf20g2000pbb.go=
> ogle=3D
> > > g=3D3D
> > > > >>>>> On Mar 28, 1:55=3D3D3D3DA0pm,Zinnic<zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote=
> :
> > > > >>>>>> On Mar 28, 2:17=3D3D3D3DA0pm, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@volca=
> nomail=3D
> > > ..=3D3D
> > > > > com> w=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> rote:
> >
> > > > >>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:04=3D3D3D3DA0pm,Zinnic<zinnic....@gmail.com> wro=
> te:
> >
> > > > >>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:58=3D3D3D3DA0pm, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...@vol=
> canom=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > ail.co=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> m> wrote:
> >
> > > > >>>>>>>>> When the values measured in an experiment agree with the va=
> =3D3D
> >
> > > > >>>>>>>>> When the values measured in an experiment agree with the va=
> > > > > lues=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> =3D3DA0that a
> > > > >>>>>>>>> theory says will be measured, then the experiment validates=
> =3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0the
> > > > >>>>>>>>> theory. =3D3D3D3DA0No amount of 'interpretation' changes th=
> at b=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > asic f=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> act.
> >
> > > > >>>>>>>> Not so!
> >
> > > > >>>>>>>>> A null result is measured in the MMX. SR predicts a null re=
> =3D3D
> >
> > > > >>>>>>>> Not so!
> >
> > > > >>>>>>>>> A null result is measured in the MMX. SR predicts a null re=
> > > > > sult=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> =3D3DA0for
> > > > >>>>>>>>> MMX.
> >
> > > > >>>>>>>> Irrelevant because the ballistic emiisionn theory (BaTh) als=
> o=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0pre=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> dicts
> > > > >>>>>>>> the null result. The =3D3D3D3DA0null result is consistent wi=
> th bo=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > th the=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> =3D3DA0BaTh and
> > > > >>>>>>>> SR, it proves neither.
> > > > >>>>>>>>Zinnic
> >
> > > > >>>>>>> It appears that you don't understand the concept of validatio=
> > > > >>>>>>>>Zinnic
> >
> n.
> > > > >>>>>>> Validation is not proof. =3D3D3D3DA0You can never prove a phy=
> sical =3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > theory
> > > > >>>>>>> because that would require testing it under all possible circ=
> um=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > stan=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> ces
> > > > >>>>>>> to an infinite degree of precision. =3D3D3D3DA0We can only te=
> st a f=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > inite =3D3D3D
> > > > >>> number
> > > > >>>>>>> of cases, and only to a finite precision.
> > > > >>>>>>> When the values measured in an experiment agree with the valu=
> > > > >>>>>>> of cases, and only to a finite precision.
> es=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0tha=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> t a
> > > > >>>>>>> theory says will be measured, then the theory has been valida=
> te=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > d by
> > > > >>>>>>> the experiment. =3D3D3D3DA0Depending upon the particulars, th=
> e vali=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > dation=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> =3D3DA0may be
> > > > >>>>>>> weak or strong, but it is never a proof. =3D3D3D3DA0If multip=
> le the=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > ories
> > > > >>>>>>> accurately predict the same result for a particular experimen=
> t,=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0tha=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> t
> > > > >>>>>>> experiment validates all of those theories. =3D3D3D3DA0That d=
> oesn't=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0mean =3D3D3D
> > > > >>> that
> > > > >>>>>>> any of them is always correct. =3D3D3D3DA0When competing theo=
> ries p=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > redict
> > > > >>>>>>> different values in a particular circumstance, then an approp=
> ri=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > ate
> > > > >>>>>>> experiment will falsify those that predict incorrectly, and v=
> al=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > idat=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> e
> > > > >>>>>>> those that predict correctly. =3D3D3D3DA0In general, a theory=
> must =3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > be hig=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> hly
> > > > >>>>>>> validated (i.e. many different measurements under many circum=
> st=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > ance=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> s)
> > > > >>>>>>> in order to be accepted as useful. =3D3D3D3DA0And of course t=
> heorie=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > s that=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> =3D3DA0are
> > > > >>>>>>> falsified by experiment are to be discarded.
> > > > >>>>>>> Note also that only repeatable vetted experiments are conside=
> re=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > d
> > > > >>>>>>> meaningful.
> >
> > > > >>>>>>> Paul Cardinale
> >
> > > > >>>>>> Fair enough. I stand corrected in that I agree that there cann=
> ot =3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > be
> > > > >>>>>> absolute proof. However, if two different theories correctly p=
> red=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > icte=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> d
> > > > >>>>>> the same experimental result, I would not claim =3D3D3D3DA0tha=
> t resu=3D
> > > l=3D3D
> > > > > t vali=3D3D3D
> > > > >>> dates
> > > > >>>>>> either though I would concede that it invalidates neither.
> > > > >>>>>>Zinnic- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > > >>>>> The semantics can be a bit messy. =3D3D3DA0A theory that is val=
> > > > >>>>>> either though I would concede that it invalidates neither.
> > > > >>>>>>Zinnic- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >
> idated=3D
> > > =A0b=3D3D
> > > > > y an
> > > > >>>>> experiment can still be an invalid theory.
> > > > >>>>> If 100 experiments validate a theory (i.e. the measurements agr=
> > > > >>>>> experiment can still be an invalid theory.
> ee w=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > ith
> > > > >>>>> the predictions), and one experiment falsifies the theory, then=
> the
> > > > >>>>> theory is invalid; but those 100 validations still stand (of co=
> urse
> > > > >>>>> they don't mean much in light of an invalidation by another
> > > > >>>>> experiment.)
> >
> > > > >>>>> Note also that all of this assumes a fixed domain of applicabil=
> > > > >>>>> they don't mean much in light of an invalidation by another
> > > > >>>>> experiment.)
> >
> ity.
> > > > >>>>> You could have a theory that was thought to be generally applic=
> able=3D
> > > =3D3D
> > > > > ,
> > > > >>>>> but then an experiment shows a case where it doesn't work. =3D3=
> D3DA0T=3D
> > > ha=3D3D
> > > > > t
> > > > >>>>> experiment would falsify it general, but the theory could still=
> be
> > > > >>>>> valid (and useful), in a limited domain of applicability.
> >
> > > > >>>>> Paul Cardinale
> >
> > > > >>>> A theory may appear to be invalid within a frame but be
> > > > >>>> demonstrably valid in a smaller, larger or different
> > > > >>>> frame. In my use of "frame" I am including all known and
> > > > >>>> yet-to-be-known dimensions, including that of time.
> >
> > > > >>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > >>>> Om Shanti
> >
> > > > >>> You need to explain how you are qualified to pronounce on the val=
> > > > >>>>> valid (and useful), in a limited domain of applicability.
> >
> > > > >>>>> Paul Cardinale
> >
> > > > >>>> A theory may appear to be invalid within a frame but be
> > > > >>>> demonstrably valid in a smaller, larger or different
> > > > >>>> frame. In my use of "frame" I am including all known and
> > > > >>>> yet-to-be-known dimensions, including that of time.
> >
> > > > >>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > >>>> Om Shanti
> >
> idit=3D
> > > y
> > > > >>> of any theory in "yet-to-be-known dimensions".
> >
> > > > >> "A theory may appear to be invalid..." is not necessarily
> > > > >> a pronouncement of its validity. Note the words "may" and
> > > > >> "necessarily".
> >
> > > > >> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > >> Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > Hello Jai,
> > > > > Hope all is going fine with your script!
> > > > > We are having a fantastic time in Paris. =3DA0Saw Monet's garden an=
> > > > >>> of any theory in "yet-to-be-known dimensions".
> >
> > > > >> "A theory may appear to be invalid..." is not necessarily
> > > > >> a pronouncement of its validity. Note the words "may" and
> > > > >> "necessarily".
> >
> > > > >> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > >> Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > Hello Jai,
> > > > > Hope all is going fine with your script!
> d hous=3D
> > > e
> > > > > in Giverney, took a walking tour and this morning visited the
> > > > > catacombs and Rodin's musuem. =3DA0Now we will have dinner at the E=
> > > > > in Giverney, took a walking tour and this morning visited the
> iffel
> > > > > tower restaurant, Seine cruise and Moulin Rouge...
> > > > > Life is a dream here, everything is so efficient and lovely. =3DA0A=
> > > > > tower restaurant, Seine cruise and Moulin Rouge...
> mazing=3D
> > > !
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > My screenwriting initiation is indirectly related to
> > > > Moulin Rouge.
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > Toulouse-Lautrec was directly related. =A0Showed one way to make money,
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > My screenwriting initiation is indirectly related to
> > > > Moulin Rouge.
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > by promoting showbiz.
> >
> > Most of which now begins with a $creenplay.
> >
> > > > =A0Where do you go from France?
> >
> > Most of which now begins with a $creenplay.
> >
> >
> > > I have returned this morning, after visiting Amsterdam and
> > > surroundings (Delft, The Hague, Marodam, Vandamen,
> > > Marken and Keukenhof); then to Dusseldorf and Koln (the cathedral
> > > there is a wonder to behold) in Germany.
> > > Flew back to Paris from Dusseldorf, and spent a day in Shanghai
> > > (mostly sleeping I am afraid, but we did eat
> > > good dim sums and bought pottery and other stuff at the airport). =A0It
> > > I have returned this morning, after visiting Amsterdam and
> > > surroundings (Delft, The Hague, Marodam, Vandamen,
> > > Marken and Keukenhof); then to Dusseldorf and Koln (the cathedral
> > > there is a wonder to behold) in Germany.
> > > Flew back to Paris from Dusseldorf, and spent a day in Shanghai
> > > (mostly sleeping I am afraid, but we did eat
> > > was a truly fantastic experience, we were very
> > > lucky with the food, the weather, the travel and the hotels - and my
> > > aunt's hospitality in Germany was simply
> > > unbelievable!
> > > Also managed to see a Hindi movie on the flight, AB & HM in "Buddah
> > > hoga tera baap".
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > An Eiffel Tower effect:
> >
> > http://i.imgur.com/QJh5X.jpg
> >
> > What's next for you, South America?
> >
> > > lucky with the food, the weather, the travel and the hotels - and my
> > > aunt's hospitality in Germany was simply
> > > unbelievable!
> > > Also managed to see a Hindi movie on the flight, AB & HM in "Buddah
> > > hoga tera baap".
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > An Eiffel Tower effect:
> >
> > http://i.imgur.com/QJh5X.jpg
> >
> > What's next for you, South America?
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
>
> > Om Shanti
>
>
> Not for me, yet. I have a very good scout for that part of the world!
South American countries are favorite travel destinations
among folks who live in Hawaii.
Arindam Banerjee
Apr 15, 2012, 7:20:33 PM4/15/12
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On Apr 15, 12:38 pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> On 12 Apr, 03:52, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr. Jai
I had been indifferent to art, since I have no talent in that line.
Art at its best never really enthused me, and modern art only confused
me.
Since to me the greatest artist is God, whichever way you call him,
and before God's work nothing can compare.
In my first year in IITKgP I was subjected to ragging like everyone
else. However ragging is not all bad. In the name of ragging you get
to know your seniors who
do take some interest in you, which attention you would not get
otherwise. i was fortunate to get some intellectual company. One
gentleman, two years my senior,
knew a lot more than I did about Art, and informed me that Picasso
was a great talent who had sold out his talent for money. Modern art,
following Picasso, is
thus like a great singer or elocutionist doing baby talk and getting
paid immense moneys for same. What was really wrong about modern art
is that it is not
very very cheap! Nah, it can get highly expensive, and in that way it
supports both relativistic scumbaggery and capitalistic pigdoggery
admirably - at the expense
of genuine art and hardworking artists.
> On 12 Apr, 03:52, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr. Jai
Art at its best never really enthused me, and modern art only confused
me.
Since to me the greatest artist is God, whichever way you call him,
and before God's work nothing can compare.
In my first year in IITKgP I was subjected to ragging like everyone
else. However ragging is not all bad. In the name of ragging you get
to know your seniors who
do take some interest in you, which attention you would not get
otherwise. i was fortunate to get some intellectual company. One
gentleman, two years my senior,
knew a lot more than I did about Art, and informed me that Picasso
was a great talent who had sold out his talent for money. Modern art,
following Picasso, is
thus like a great singer or elocutionist doing baby talk and getting
paid immense moneys for same. What was really wrong about modern art
is that it is not
very very cheap! Nah, it can get highly expensive, and in that way it
supports both relativistic scumbaggery and capitalistic pigdoggery
admirably - at the expense
of genuine art and hardworking artists.
Arindam Banerjee
Apr 15, 2012, 7:54:16 PM4/15/12
to
On Apr 16, 9:20 am, Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thus the wisdom of the relativist, to equate bad art with good art,
laziness with effort, etc. with the subjectivity of the priviliged
few, finds its greatest success in the realm of art.
This is bad for those who value art, seek inspiration from art, etc.
A similar effort has been done with literature, with poetry now being
reduced to pure nonsense and
novelist-liars given top valuation by all the institutions. How long
this ongoing evil will last, depends upon how soon the physicists and
ordinary people get bold enough to throw out all the e=mcc nonsense.
Back to Vincent van Gogh, poor chap. A classic case of the true,
inspired, original genius pulled down by the creeping crawling
mediocrities peddling pleasantries
and scratching each other's backs for making mucho money. Still, his
power did come out, even when diluted by the impact of his lesser
contemporaries. Had Vincent
read the sonnets of Shakespeare, which are all for the support of the
true genius hounded by the quotays, he might have had more
resilience. It is not a wonder
that the ruling quotays and phuds dismiss the sonnets of Shakespeare
(which to Prof Francis Muir of Stanford Uni are as the Vedas to the
Hindus) as homosexual stuff.
Poor Vincent, he was far too impressed by the moneys the second-raters
and their lowers made, and that led to his tragedy. He did not know
that to make lotsa
money and fame in one's own lifetime is a sure sign of second-
rateness. For people buy what is snobbish, easy, rude, or at best
pleasant and practical - and that is always second rate. Greatness
always lies in tragedy, sorrow, pain... and writing or painting about
these do not make money, except in very rare circumstances! It is the
normal practice
of the ill-learned, abusive phuds and their abominable quotay masters
to parade their degrees, power and wealth before the poor genius, in
order to humiliate and exploit him.
I have come back from Holland (or rather, The Netherlands) with the
very greatest respect for the Dutch. They discovered all the great
English speaking countries,
but did not populate them. Rather, they chose to reclaim land from
the sea, using windmills, Archimedes screws, canals, and lots and lots
of hard work. They make
the best cheese, wooden shoes and funny caps. They have a great deal
of tolerance, and we enjoyed their hospitality at the excellent 5*
hotel we stayed for 4 nights.
Near that hotel, there is a golden statue of a man driving a large
tortoise. Slow and steady, that is what they want to say, I suppose.
Slowly and steadily they have
replaced their seas with fresh water lakes and tulip fields and
grazing lands. God made the world, but the Dutch made Netherlands.
And yet, when I departed from their Rijksmuseum I was quite furious.
For the greatest painting of Rembrandt "The Night Watch" had been
mutilated by their ruling
quotays back in 1715. I was very much looking forward to seeing that
masterpiece, but the instant I saw it I knew there was something
wrong. Further investigation
showed that it had been cut on three sides to put it on a certain
wall. What a shame, what an outrage! The proportions had been
screwed up!
wrote:
laziness with effort, etc. with the subjectivity of the priviliged
few, finds its greatest success in the realm of art.
This is bad for those who value art, seek inspiration from art, etc.
A similar effort has been done with literature, with poetry now being
reduced to pure nonsense and
novelist-liars given top valuation by all the institutions. How long
this ongoing evil will last, depends upon how soon the physicists and
ordinary people get bold enough to throw out all the e=mcc nonsense.
Back to Vincent van Gogh, poor chap. A classic case of the true,
inspired, original genius pulled down by the creeping crawling
mediocrities peddling pleasantries
and scratching each other's backs for making mucho money. Still, his
power did come out, even when diluted by the impact of his lesser
contemporaries. Had Vincent
read the sonnets of Shakespeare, which are all for the support of the
true genius hounded by the quotays, he might have had more
resilience. It is not a wonder
that the ruling quotays and phuds dismiss the sonnets of Shakespeare
(which to Prof Francis Muir of Stanford Uni are as the Vedas to the
Hindus) as homosexual stuff.
Poor Vincent, he was far too impressed by the moneys the second-raters
and their lowers made, and that led to his tragedy. He did not know
that to make lotsa
money and fame in one's own lifetime is a sure sign of second-
rateness. For people buy what is snobbish, easy, rude, or at best
pleasant and practical - and that is always second rate. Greatness
always lies in tragedy, sorrow, pain... and writing or painting about
these do not make money, except in very rare circumstances! It is the
normal practice
of the ill-learned, abusive phuds and their abominable quotay masters
to parade their degrees, power and wealth before the poor genius, in
order to humiliate and exploit him.
I have come back from Holland (or rather, The Netherlands) with the
very greatest respect for the Dutch. They discovered all the great
English speaking countries,
but did not populate them. Rather, they chose to reclaim land from
the sea, using windmills, Archimedes screws, canals, and lots and lots
of hard work. They make
the best cheese, wooden shoes and funny caps. They have a great deal
of tolerance, and we enjoyed their hospitality at the excellent 5*
hotel we stayed for 4 nights.
Near that hotel, there is a golden statue of a man driving a large
tortoise. Slow and steady, that is what they want to say, I suppose.
Slowly and steadily they have
replaced their seas with fresh water lakes and tulip fields and
grazing lands. God made the world, but the Dutch made Netherlands.
And yet, when I departed from their Rijksmuseum I was quite furious.
For the greatest painting of Rembrandt "The Night Watch" had been
mutilated by their ruling
quotays back in 1715. I was very much looking forward to seeing that
masterpiece, but the instant I saw it I knew there was something
wrong. Further investigation
showed that it had been cut on three sides to put it on a certain
wall. What a shame, what an outrage! The proportions had been
screwed up!
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 15, 2012, 8:00:39 PM4/15/12
to
In article <1332177d-cc4a-48f0...@to5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> posted:
> > > =A0Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> Since to me the greatest artist is God, whichever way you call him,
> and before God's work nothing can compare.
Absolutely.
> In my first year in IITKgP I was subjected to ragging like everyone
> else. However ragging is not all bad. In the name of ragging you get
> to know your seniors who
> do take some interest in you, which attention you would not get
> otherwise. i was fortunate to get some intellectual company. One
> gentleman, two years my senior,
> knew a lot more than I did about Art, and informed me that Picasso
> was a great talent who had sold out his talent for money. Modern art,
> following Picasso, is
> thus like a great singer or elocutionist doing baby talk and getting
> paid immense moneys for same. What was really wrong about modern art
> is that it is not
> very very cheap! Nah, it can get highly expensive, and in that way it
> supports both relativistic scumbaggery and capitalistic pigdoggery
> admirably - at the expense
> of genuine art and hardworking artists.
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
When "art" is mentioned I usually ask, "art of what?"
Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> posted:
>
> On Apr 15, 12:38=A0pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > In article <1d8010d9-9cc2-4f24-a456-92c8e5f0f...@dc2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
> On Apr 15, 12:38=A0pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > =A0Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > "Become a possibilitarian. No matter how dark things seem
> > > > > to be or actually are, raise your sights and see
> > > > > possibilities -- always see them, for they're always
> > > > > there." - Norman Vincent Peale
> >
> > > > Good advice, wish van Gogh knew about it.
> > > > I felt really sorry for him after I visited his museum day before
> > > > yesterday.
> > > > A first rate genius, of the order of da Vinci, was pulled down by his
> > > > circling second raters to suicide.
> > > > Very sad.
> > > > Much better it would have been had he continued with his early
> > > > idealism, as he showed in his incredible painting "The Potato
> > > > Eaters". =A0What a painter he really was!
> > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > "Become a possibilitarian. No matter how dark things seem
> > > > > to be or actually are, raise your sights and see
> > > > > possibilities -- always see them, for they're always
> > > > > there." - Norman Vincent Peale
> >
> > > > Good advice, wish van Gogh knew about it.
> > > > I felt really sorry for him after I visited his museum day before
> > > > yesterday.
> > > > A first rate genius, of the order of da Vinci, was pulled down by his
> > > > circling second raters to suicide.
> > > > Very sad.
> > > > Much better it would have been had he continued with his early
> > > > idealism, as he showed in his incredible painting "The Potato
> > > > I think the huge mobs seeing his works think much the same thing. We
> > > > were all so moved by his earliest works.
> > > > As for me, re quotays:
> > > > [Missing text?]
> >
> >
> > > > were all so moved by his earliest works.
> > > > As for me, re quotays:
> > > > [Missing text?]
> >
> >
> > > Leonardo da Vinci excelled in one more area:
> >
> > > "I shall not make my body a tomb for other animals."
> >
> > > - Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519), Italian polymath,
> > > renaissance luminary, a vegetarian.
> >
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
>
> >
> >
> > > "I shall not make my body a tomb for other animals."
> >
> > > - Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519), Italian polymath,
> > > renaissance luminary, a vegetarian.
> >
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
>
> >
> > Shortage of time then, we were running out of time in the one-hour
> > span in the interent cafe in the Dam at Amsterdam. =A0Continuing:
> >
> > To quote myself, some of my worst but pungent lines go thusly:
> >
> > "So I said, fuck 'em, fuck 'em all.
> > With those jerks I'll not play ball."
> >
> > That's the way to treat the envious second raters and worse (ill-
> > learned phuds, quotays, cowards, etc.), but one needs to be confident
> > of oneself and support from the woman helps greatly.
> > Sadly, van Gogh was lacking in both areas.
> >
> > Had he gone the way he began, he would have been a super-Picasso.
> > Here too I am referring to the early Picasso.
>
> I had been indifferent to art, since I have no talent in that line.
> Art at its best never really enthused me, and modern art only confused
> me.
Artful writing above: ". . . enthused me . . . confused me."
> > To quote myself, some of my worst but pungent lines go thusly:
> >
> > "So I said, fuck 'em, fuck 'em all.
> > With those jerks I'll not play ball."
> >
> > That's the way to treat the envious second raters and worse (ill-
> > learned phuds, quotays, cowards, etc.), but one needs to be confident
> > of oneself and support from the woman helps greatly.
> > Sadly, van Gogh was lacking in both areas.
> >
> > Had he gone the way he began, he would have been a super-Picasso.
> > Here too I am referring to the early Picasso.
>
> I had been indifferent to art, since I have no talent in that line.
> Art at its best never really enthused me, and modern art only confused
> me.
> Since to me the greatest artist is God, whichever way you call him,
> and before God's work nothing can compare.
> In my first year in IITKgP I was subjected to ragging like everyone
> else. However ragging is not all bad. In the name of ragging you get
> to know your seniors who
> do take some interest in you, which attention you would not get
> otherwise. i was fortunate to get some intellectual company. One
> gentleman, two years my senior,
> knew a lot more than I did about Art, and informed me that Picasso
> was a great talent who had sold out his talent for money. Modern art,
> following Picasso, is
> thus like a great singer or elocutionist doing baby talk and getting
> paid immense moneys for same. What was really wrong about modern art
> is that it is not
> very very cheap! Nah, it can get highly expensive, and in that way it
> supports both relativistic scumbaggery and capitalistic pigdoggery
> admirably - at the expense
> of genuine art and hardworking artists.
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
Arindam Banerjee
Apr 15, 2012, 9:58:28 PM4/15/12
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On Apr 16, 10:00 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <1332177d-cc4a-48f0-b1b3-8cf3bfa63...@to5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
Thanks!
to them God's work is only useful to the extent it can be cut down for
their profit.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <1332177d-cc4a-48f0-b1b3-8cf3bfa63...@to5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
>
> > Since to me the greatest artist is God, whichever way you call him,
> > and before God's work nothing can compare.
>
> Absolutely.
Indeed. Not that the fetid goons will ever get this simple fact, for
> > Since to me the greatest artist is God, whichever way you call him,
> > and before God's work nothing can compare.
>
> Absolutely.
to them God's work is only useful to the extent it can be cut down for
their profit.
DMJoshi
Apr 16, 2012, 1:41:19 AM4/16/12
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Arindam Banerjee
Apr 16, 2012, 1:45:34 AM4/16/12
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On Apr 16, 3:41 pm, DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
All publicity is good for money-making, and alas, money-making is what
I have to do to prove my new physics!
Let us hope that our dear Joshiji never stops making a fool of
himself, to further my purpose.
Cheers,
Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, greatest genius of all
time, sole god among lotsa devils.
DMJoshi
Apr 16, 2012, 1:56:38 AM4/16/12
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Myself Mallu, Yourself?
Apr 16, 2012, 3:19:34 AM4/16/12
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always hop on to his "vimaan" powered by the infernal force injun to
greet all beings from penguins to anacondas.
Lady Kaka is thinking of her own hardships when she rounded the Cape of
Good Hope and got on to the South Atlantic (on the way to Trinidad). She
might have even fought in the Falklands war (on the side of Argentina of
course).
Ilya Shambat
Apr 16, 2012, 4:15:13 AM4/16/12
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Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <1332177d-cc4a-48f0-b1b3-8cf3bfa63...@to5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> In article <1332177d-cc4a-48f0-b1b3-8cf3bfa63...@to5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
For some genuine art, check http://aaagiclee.com/galleria/index.php?manufacturers_id=45
DMJoshi
Apr 16, 2012, 4:26:20 AM4/16/12
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On Apr 16, 9:15 am, Ilya Shambat <ibsham...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Glad to see you and Arindam getting along.
Adridam Bandicoot having been Fraud and Shame of IIT for a decade has
> Glad to see you and Arindam getting along.
now caught on to Monkey's coat-tails believing he has hit jackpot
Arindam Banerjee
Apr 16, 2012, 5:31:14 AM4/16/12
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really gets going.
Seems to me, someone else in the movie industry is also interested
about what I write.
An educational joke I had once written in usenet, relating to shit,
bird and cat, was the centrepiece finale in the Hindi movie "Buddah
hoga tera baap" I saw night before last while flying from Shanghai to
Melbourne.
>
> For some genuine art, checkhttp://aaagiclee.com/galleria/index.php?manufacturers_id=45
>
Wasn't moved.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
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