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Koos Nolst Trenite  
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 More options Jan 4 2003, 5:26 pm
Newsgroups: alt.philosophy, talk.religion.buddhism, alt.zen, soc.culture.indian, talk.religion.newage
From: AmbassadorForMank...@hotmail.com (Koos Nolst Trenite)
Date: 4 Jan 2003 14:26:15 -0800
Local: Sat, Jan 4 2003 5:26 pm
Subject: Living In The Present - Definition
Living In The Present - Definition

                                                        2 January 2003

There is the "fantastic relief" of shedding all responsibility for
 what is going on and for what has gone on (and by consequence, will
 go on).

 The "fantastic relief"

     - of (shedding most of all responsibility for) seeing who is
       who and what they have done, and what they - by consequence -
       will do again;

     - of (shedding most of all responsibility for) knowing what your
       concerns and goals were and are, and what these - by
       consequence - will be again, or continue to be;

     - of (shedding most of all responsibility for) knowing what your
       abilities were and are, and - by consequence - continue to be,
       even if dormant.

This relief is - amongst other things - by some called 'Death.'*

Others - knowing not at all what the present is - call this relief
 "living in the present" or "being fully and only in the present."**

They omit, that the present is almost completely made up of the past,
 and that the future is almost completely carrying on from and
 determined by actions and by decisions made in the past - mostly even
 in a very distant past.

The more you are aware of that past, the more you are in the present.

And that is, as promised, the actual Definition of 'Living in the
present':

       The more you are aware of the past, the more you are in the
       present, because the present is almost completely made up of
       the past, and the future is almost completely carrying on from
       and determined by actions and decisions made in the past -
       mostly even in a very distant past, by others mostly too.

I will explain it more, to your pleasure.

There is the "fantastic relief" of shedding all responsibility for
 what is going on and for what has gone on, and what, by consequence,
 will go on.***

 All the problems are still there, you see, but you are not aware of
 these, you are only "aware of the present" - meaning then, to you,
 being only aware of where you are now, of with whom you are now,
 and only aware of how they are now, or how they pretend to be now.

This means to you, then, that you are in, and you experience, the
 illusion that all is fresh and new, that "you don't know anything
 about the people you meet, that you don't know anything about your
 past, about who you really are."

 While that "not knowing" is merely an illusion, it provides to you
 an experience that "there is only existing what you see around you,"
 that "you are living in the present."

By regaining a viewpoint on the ACTUAL present - it consists of all
 the past that shapes both the present and the future too - you
 regain a viewpoint on yourself (and on others too) as you actually
 are.

 This, you can actually experience, with a great resurgence of all
 that is dear and extremely valuable in you.

And THAT is true relief - resulting in correct actions and genuine
 compassion that springs and flows from true identity.

Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity"
 human rights philosopher and poet

Footnotes and references

Footnotes:
*   Some use death, they die, in order to accomplish such a "relief" -
    usually with the idea and in the hope they will get reborn "all
    fresh and new."

**  They go and "only live in the present" in order to experience that
    relief.

*** That unawareness of responsibility is not at all necessarily a
    voluntary action - most unawareness of the past has been and is
    continuously being enforced and kept up very heavily - by those
    who have every reason to want you not aware of the past, not your
    own, and especially not their past. They work most violently to
    reduce awareness in people, in anybody, and most forcefully and
    insistently to get false ideas about the mind and about awareness
    accepted and applied. (See references.)

References:
-  'The Mafia Code Against Mankind' (18 Oct 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0210180308.42416a71%40p...

-  'Mechanics Of Awareness, Perception, Memory And Forgetfulness'
     (13 September 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0209131336.12b4e...@posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

-  'The Second Mozart-Effect - Connecting To Your Own Past'
     (3 Sept 2002 - Version 1.1)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b6f518d.0209031146.6b59c...@posting.google.com&oe=utf-8&output=gplain

Copyright 2003 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
 and poet
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