On Cold Fusion
Sir Frederick
some still messing around in it. Something like this, applied,
may be what it will take to get the economy going again.
I can imagine each home having it's own inexhaustible
energy source.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090323110450.htm
'Cold Fusion' Rebirth? New Evidence For Existence Of Controversial Energy Source
ScienceDaily
(Mar. 23, 2009) —
Researchers are reporting compelling new scientific evidence for the existence
of low-energy nuclear reactions (LENR), the process once called "cold fusion"
that may promise a new source of energy. One group of scientists, for instance,
describes what it terms the first clear visual evidence that LENR devices can
produce neutrons, subatomic particles that scientists view as tell-tale signs
that nuclear reactions are occurring.
Low-energy nuclear reactions could potentially provide 21st Century society a
limitless and environmentally-clean energy source for generating electricity,
researchers say. The report, which injects new life into this controversial
field, will be presented March 23 in Salt Lake City, Utah, at the American
Chemical Society's 237th National Meeting.*
"Our finding is very significant," says study co-author and analytical chemist
Pamela Mosier-Boss, Ph.D., of the U.S. Navy's Space and Naval Warfare Systems
Center (SPAWAR) in San Diego, Calif. "To our knowledge, this is the first
scientific report of the production of highly energetic neutrons from an LENR
device."
The first report on "cold fusion," presented in 1989 by Martin Fleishmann and
Stanley Pons, was a global scientific sensation. Fusion is the energy source of
the sun and the stars. Scientists had been striving for years to tap that power
on Earth to produce electricity from an abundant fuel called deuterium that can
be extracted from seawater. Everyone thought that it would require a
sophisticated new genre of nuclear reactors able to withstand temperatures of
tens of millions of degrees Fahrenheit.
Pons and Fleishmann, however, claimed achieving nuclear fusion at comparatively
"cold" room temperatures — in a simple tabletop laboratory device termed an
electrolytic cell.
But other scientists could not reproduce their results, and the whole field of
research declined. A stalwart cadre of scientists persisted, however, seeking
solid evidence that nuclear reactions can occur at low temperatures. One of
their problems involved extreme difficulty in using conventional electronic
instruments to detect the small number of neutrons produced in the process,
researchers say.
In the new study, Mosier-Boss and colleagues inserted an electrode composed of
nickel or gold wire into a solution of palladium chloride mixed with deuterium
or "heavy water" in a process called co-deposition. A single atom of deuterium
contains one neutron and one proton in its nucleus.
Researchers passed electric current through the solution, causing a reaction
within seconds. The scientists then used a special plastic, CR-39, to capture
and track any high-energy particles that may have been emitted during reactions,
including any neutrons emitted during the fusion of deuterium atoms.
At the end of the experiment, they examined the plastic with a microscope and
discovered patterns of "triple tracks," tiny-clusters of three adjacent pits
that appear to split apart from a single point. The researchers say that the
track marks were made by subatomic particles released when neutrons smashed into
the plastic. Importantly, Mosier-Boss and colleagues believe that the neutrons
originated in nuclear reactions, perhaps from the combining or fusing deuterium
nuclei.
"People have always asked 'Where's the neutrons?'" Mosier-Boss says. "If you
have fusion going on, then you have to have neutrons. We now have evidence that
there are neutrons present in these LENR reactions."
They cited other evidence for nuclear reactions including X-rays, tritium
(another form of hydrogen), and excess heat. Meanwhile, Mosier-Boss and
colleagues are continuing to explore the phenomenon to get a better
understanding of exactly how LENR works, which is key to being able to control
it for practical purposes.
Mosier-Boss points out that the field currently gets very little funding and,
despite its promise, researchers can't predict when, or if, LENR may emerge from
the lab with practical applications. The U.S. Department of the Navy and JWK
International Corporation in Annandale, Va., funded the study.
*It is among 30 papers on the topic that will be presented during a four-day
symposium, "New Energy Technology," March 22-25, in conjunction with the 20th
anniversary of the first description of cold fusion.
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Adapted from materials provided by American Chemical Society, via EurekAlert!, a
service of AAAS.
tgde...@earthlink.net
> This was really exciting 20 years ago,
Not to anyone who understood the basic physics of it.
Briefly: If the *principle* worked anywhere near to what is claimed,
experiments would not, after 20 years, still be producing results that
are in the noise.
> I am glad to see
> some still messing around in it. Something like this, applied,
> may be what it will take to get the economy going again.
> I can imagine each home having it's own inexhaustible
> energy source.
Sure. Not to mention its own thermonuclear weapon.
At some point in the future, we might be able to create solid-state
structures at the atom/molecular level to promote such reactions, but
that's way different from what the chemists are doing.
-tg
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Sir Frederick
>On Mar 24, 2:04 am, Sir Frederick <mmcne...@fuzzysys.com> wrote:
>> This was really exciting 20 years ago,
>
>Not to anyone who understood the basic physics of it.
>
>Briefly: If the *principle* worked anywhere near to what is claimed,
>experiments would not, after 20 years, still be producing results that
>are in the noise.
>
>> I am glad to see
>> some still messing around in it. Something like this, applied,
>> may be what it will take to get the economy going again.
>> I can imagine each home having it's own inexhaustible
>> energy source.
>
>Sure. Not to mention its own thermonuclear weapon.
Such is the way of a temporary species.
>
>At some point in the future, we might be able to create solid-state
>structures at the atom/molecular level to promote such reactions, but
>that's way different from what the chemists are doing.
So tell them.
Here :
http://portal.acs.org/portal/acs/corg/content
or here :
http://enterprise.spawar.navy.mil/
Don Stockbauer
Sir Frederick
<donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Isn't cold fusion 2 Eskimos mating?
Idoat. (That's Eskimo for idiot.)
tgde...@earthlink.net
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:05:36 -0700 (PDT), tgdenn...@earthlink.net wrote:
> >On Mar 24, 2:04 am, Sir Frederick <mmcne...@fuzzysys.com> wrote:
> >> This was really exciting 20 years ago,
>
> >Not to anyone who understood the basic physics of it.
>
> >Briefly: If the *principle* worked anywhere near to what is claimed,
> >experiments would not, after 20 years, still be producing results that
> >are in the noise.
>
> >> I am glad to see
> >> some still messing around in it. Something like this, applied,
> >> may be what it will take to get the economy going again.
> >> I can imagine each home having it's own inexhaustible
> >> energy source.
>
> >Sure. Not to mention its own thermonuclear weapon.
>
> Such is the way of a temporary species.
>
> >At some point in the future, we might be able to create solid-state
> >structures at the atom/molecular level to promote such reactions, but
> >that's way different from what the chemists are doing.
>
> So tell them.
> Here :http://portal.acs.org/portal/acs/corg/content
> or here :http://enterprise.spawar.navy.mil/
>
No thanks, my neighbors would complain about the noise from the Black
Helicopters that would inevitably come.
I'm sure there have been people exploring the idea on a theoretical
level, and if they had a reasonable approach they would be getting
funding---although we might not be hearing about it. But this wet
chemistry stuff is just guessing; it is like trying out chemical
compounds from nature to see if they might be useful for drugs---big
payoff, but tiny success rate and almost no predictability.
-tg
Sir Frederick
Tell them anonymously, in some secret way, that will not disclose anything
about you. You might stop this waste of your tax money.
tgde...@earthlink.net
Yeah sure. Like there's no file on both of us, now that we've had this
discussion. Thup-thup-thup-thup-------gotta go, it has suddenly gotten
very dark and windy outside, except for that incredibly pure white
light shining through the window.......
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Don Stockbauer
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:01:03 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
>
>
> >Isn't cold fusion 2 Eskimos mating?
>
> Idoat. (That's Eskimo for idiot.)
Takes one to know one.
Sir Frederick
What? Eskimo?
Don Stockbauer
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:55:33 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
>
> >On Mar 24, 7:32 am, Sir Frederick <mmcne...@fuzzysys.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:01:03 -0700 (PDT), Don Stockbauer
>
> >> <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Isn't cold fusion 2 Eskimos mating?
>
> >> Idoat. (That's Eskimo for idiot.)
>
> >Takes one to know one.
>
> What? Eskimo?
Yes.