On 23/04/2012 4:43 PM, Seon Ferguson wrote:
> "raven1" wrote in message
> news:q299p79aomc99beilflqmn28ea5d3fis4m@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:29:01 +1000, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> "fasgnadh" wrote in message
>> news:lkJkr.6056$%E2.2183@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...
>> On 14/04/2012 3:04 AM, Syd M. wrote:
>>> On 13/04/2012 12:33 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> Syd Moron snips and runs:
>>>>> On 13/04/2012 10:25 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> <unsnip the criticism of the Atheist regimes that North Korea's
>>>> stooges don't want you to see: >
>>>>>> "North Korean Rocket Launch Fails" - ABC news April 12, 2012
>>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
>>>>>> The atheist states have ALL been COMPLETE CLUSTER-FUCKS!!!
>> I'm no atheist, but why do you say such provocative things like this?
Because they are true! You snipped ALL the facts about the chronic
failure of the atheist terror state, North Korea, and joined the other
atheist tools in attacking me for daring to criticise your atheist
regimes stupidity, violence and depravity.
North Korea is an atheist state, and all atheist states have been
complete cluster-fucks. I have posted the proof.
Any time you have evidence to the contrary, post it!
Otherwise, join all the other whining atheist trolls who can't
dispute the only evidence in this debate.. ALL PROVIDED BY ME:
ATHEIST STATES
"North Korea's government exercises virtual total
control over society and imposes state sanctioned atheism"
- Hertzke, Allen. 2006.
Freeing God's Children. Rowman & Littlefield
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"Although the North Korean constitution states that freedom of religion
is permitted, free religious activities no longer exist in North Korea
as the government sponsors religious groups only to create an illusion
of religious freedom"
- Essential Background: Overview of human rights issues in
Human Rights in North Korea
(DPRK: The Democratic People's Republic of Korea)
(Human Rights Watch, 8-7-2004)
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"All publications are subject to supervision and censorship by the state.
There is no freedom of religion.
Independent worship is not allowed"
http://www.hrw.org/legacy/english/docs/2004/07/08/nkorea9040.htm
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"North Korea is officially an atheist state"
- World and Its Peoples: Eastern and Southern Asia
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"Atheism continues to be the official position of the
governments of China, North Korea and Cuba."
- The State of Religion Atlas. Simon & Schuster.
"autonomous religious activities now almost nonexistent;
government-sponsored religious groups exist to provide illusion of
religious freedom"
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/kn.html
Apparently the only atheist response to facts they don't like and CAN'T
REFUTE, is to threaten physical violence, just like every atheist regime
in history did to silence their critics:
# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
#
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,
# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
#
#
# "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia’s Buddhist religion:
# monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
# Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
# other religious sentiments were often killed.
# ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
# and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
# and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
# starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
# prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
# instead of the family.
#
# About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
# were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot’s regime."
# - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html
#
# The Cambodian Genocide:
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millo...
#
# "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
# regarded by the regime as social parasites,
# were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
# Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
# destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
# Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
# rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
# or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
# were often killed.
#
# The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
# persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
# Phnom Penh was completely razed.
#
# The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
# regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
# Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
# - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm
#
# "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
# because of their religion."
#
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/CANDEMIELDA/44camboyano.jpg
#
#
# "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
# - Daniel Peris,
# "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
# Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
#
#
# "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
# countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
# Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
# Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
# promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
# - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
# Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
#
# In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
# intrinsic part of communist ideology.
Ravin1 has already admitted the truth that atheist regimes exist
and were tyrannies:
# From: raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir
# and Kelsey Bjarnyard? B^D
# Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
# Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7g4tep9k42rdjlg...@4ax.com>
#
#
# > raven1 wrote:
# >
# >> Even under officially atheistic regimes such as Stalin's,
Now, WHY do you trolls now try and claim that the USSR WASN'T
an atheist regime?
Lenin was quite open about it:
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>> Because he's an asshole who would get his lights punched out if he
>> acted in real life like he does on Usenet.
Why do atheist thugs always resort to pointless ad hom abuse and threats
of violence when they have lost the argument and run from the truth?
# From: Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1e4jbmlsqebu9j9...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE of every
Muslim man woman and child, just for believing in something
the Atheist thugs want to prohibit again, freedom of thought and belief;
# From: Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
# Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv57fjcg60tufoa4...@4ax.com>
# Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
#
# On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
# <blondes_gaulloi
...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
#
# It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
# The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
> But it's easy to provoke people from behind the safety of your computer.
That's all ravin1 and that other psychopath, the atheists Warlord(sic)
does, like you he can't argue rationally, posts lies and then spews
abuse and makes threats when the lies are exposed! B^]
You are all such lightweights!
Now, I have shown that Ravin1 acknowledges that the USSR was an
atheist regime, but I predict you will not take HIM to task, because you
ARE a Troll, ...you are an atheist holocaust denier, and yet you
ally yourself with someone who admitted the truth about Atheist states!
You never stop backflipping, lying and contradicting yourself, do you!?
And when you get your arse kicked you aren't man enough to admit it,
you slink away, you gutless little turd, and play tool-fondle with the
other sad losers! B^]
--
Salaam, Shalom, Peace be with you.
---------
The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it,
including all the ones who eagerly embraced Dawkin's
even more enthusiastic endorsement of atheist Gods he claims
'came into being'(sic)
From his book Launch:
"A few years ago it struck me that there is a resource
that is a provider of Wisdom, and consolation,
and an ethical framework, and it's rather fascinating and
has dominated the mental landscape of human beings for thousands of years
I'm thinking, of course, of religion.
And the problem is, I'm an atheist."
Yes, that's certainly a problem for any atheist! B^D
or for anyone living in any of the atheist regimes they ran! B^[
"Not just a bit of an atheist, I really am an atheist."
You make it sound like you expect people not to believe atheists!
B^D
"So, this doesn't, in a way, make me an ideal cantidate to write
about religion, but at some point it did strike me that religions
cannot be, in the words of Christopher Hitchins, "the source of
the poison of everything", it's implausible, they've been around
for thousands of years, they reflect the collaborative intelligences
and sensitivities of millions of people and the idea that everything
to do with them is false and wicked just didn't start to stand up to
the scrutiny I applied to it, as I thought more about the subject.
So, that's really the fruit of my thinking"
That religion is really the source of so so many good and useful
contributions to civilisation that Hitchin's malicious lies just
don't stand up.. 8^o and as atheism is devoid of anything
worthwhile itself, it needs to STEAL some of the many great ideas
religion has to offer:
" my new book,Religion for Atheists is a deliberate attempt
to look at a number of areas where I believe that religions
have things to offer for non-believers"
Sure, Truth, Love, Compassion, Justice, Sincerity, Charity,
Mercy, Courage, Integrity..
all the virtues atheism lacks, and doesn't even understand, all
the spiritual values that atheists reject completely...
# From: Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net>
# Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.religion.christian,alt.agnosticism
# Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:38:16 -0800 (PST)
# Message-ID:
<bfcf3a9d-9711-449a-b126-3a1c60146...@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
#
# You can keep your spiritual values.
# I'll piss on them and pass on them.
#
# Budikka
" ..and perhaps believers know about these things already,
but for non-believers I wanted to look at that."
"It strikes me that at the moment the world is really divided into
believers and non-believers and the debate has become at times very
fierce, there are people, some of whom live in North Oxford who
have suggested not only that religion is unbelievable but also
that it's ridiculous, and that people who believe in anything are
simpletons, maniacs .. people who must be lectured at, to remove
the folly of their intellectual errors."
We all know the "person from North Oxford" he's criticising for
being such an arrogant, rabid demagogue with extreme views, is
Richard Dawkins B^]
"That's not really my approach, I think such an approach is sterile,
I don't think one makes progress"
True, Dawkins extreme militancy and all the money spent on Bus
ad lies to proselytise for new atheist converts never worked!
"It doesn't strike me that this is really a productive way
to go forward."
Mate, I have been telling the dimwitted Dawkinite Drones that
for YEARS now! But they are completely blind to reason! B^D
" How do you live a good life outside of a religious structure?
Well that's silly, when the good life you want to emulate
exists WITHIN that moral framework and claims that the SPIRITUAL
values are what brings life to the attempts at self-transformation!
It's like you want the Light from a lightbulb, using only
the physical MATTER, not invisible, electromagnetic ENERGY! B^D
It's been tried in EVERY atheist state and failed! B^]
How can these atheist 'thinkers' be so dumb?
"This is THE question facing modern society, and we haven't
necessarily answered it that well."
You atheists have NEVER answered it, B^D but the majority
religious societies that you want to emulate clearly have! B^]
"I think it's a legitimate question and my book is an
attempt to answer that question."
Sure, the hilarious part is that you think atheism needs
to copy religion ...because it HAS the answer already!!!!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!
Just what Dawkins, Bukakke, Vurgil and all the other
ex-atheist believers are trying to do! ;-)
Except, THEY are copying the BELIEFs in Supernatural Beings,
i.e. they are FABRICATING GODS to WORSHIP! (Just
like every atheist tyranny tried to do with political cultism ;-)
Whereas De Botton wants to steal the PRAXIS of religion: B^D
"My starting point is to say that we should learn to STEAL from
religions."
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAA!
Priceless! The starting point for Atheist 'philosophy' is
that having no ideas of their own the unoriginal atheists
need to pinch the ideas of the, more successful, religious!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA
"you know some people have accused me of advocating a
'pick and mix'approach to religions, and I say you know what?
you're absolutely right, that's completely what I'm doing,
a pick and mix approach.
Some people have said 'religion's are not a buffet, from which
you can go round choosing the best bits', and my answer is yes they are.
And that's precidsely what I'm doing. So i've taken my plate,
and I've gone round the different faiths, and I've done precisely that."
- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm
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http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/
http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl...
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-fa...