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Clay

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May 20, 2008, 1:51:07 PM5/20/08
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Court says money discriminates against blind people
2 hours, 9 minutes ago

The U.S. discriminates against blind people by printing paper money
that makes it impossible for them to distinguish among the bills'
varying values, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday.

The ruling upholds a decision by a lower court in 2006. It could force
the Treasury Department to redesign its money. Suggested changes have
ranged from making bills different sizes to printing them with raised
markings.

The American Council for the Blind sued for such changes but the
Treasury Department has been fighting the case for about six years.

"I don't think we should have to rely on people to tell us what our
money is," said Mitch Pomerantz, the council's president.

The U.S. acknowledges the design hinders blind people but it argued
that blind people have adapted. Some relied on store clerks to help
them, some used credit cards and others folded certain corners to help
distinguish between bills.

The court ruled 2-1 that such adaptations were insufficient. The
government might as well argue that, since handicapped people can
crawl on all fours or ask for help from strangers, there's no need to
make buildings wheelchair accessible, the court said.

Courts can't decide how to design the currency, since that's up to the
Treasury Department. But the ruling forces the department to address
what the court called a discriminatory problem.

Pomerantz says it could take years to change the look of money and
until then, he expects that similar-looking money will continue to get
printed and spent. But since blindness becomes more common with age,
people in the 30s and 40s should know that, when they get older, "they
will be able to identify their $1 bills from their fives, tens and
twenties," he said.

Officials at the Treasury Department and the department's Bureau of
Engraving and Printing, which prints the nation's currency, had no
immediate comment on the ruling. The government could appeal to the
Supreme Court.

While the government has been fighting to overturn the lower court
ruling, it has been taking some steps toward modifying U.S. currency
for the visually impaired.

The most recent currency redesign of the $5 bill introduced in March
features a giant "5" printed in purple on one side of the bill to help
those with vision problems distinguish the bill.

The appeals court also ruled that the U.S. failed to explain why
changing the money would be an undue burden. The Treasury Department
has redesigned its currency several times in recent years, and adding
features to aid the blind would come at a relatively small cost, the
court said.

Other countries have added such features, the court said, and the U.S.
never explained what made its situation so unique.

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-C-

WTF!!!

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May 20, 2008, 1:57:14 PM5/20/08
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Clowns?
Try Marxist Sycophants who must blow cock

Immortalist

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May 20, 2008, 2:15:23 PM5/20/08
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On May 20, 10:51 am, Clay <ClaysRi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Court says money discriminates against blind people
> 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
>
> The U.S. discriminates against blind people by printing paper money
> that makes it impossible for them to distinguish among the bills'
> varying values, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday.
>

Convert one of these portable scanners
http://planon.com/docupen_rc800.php

So that when you swipe it across any text it makes little bumps form
on its surface the blind can read with fingers
http://www.rit.edu/~easi/easisem/jones01.html

Then patent it and sell it to the government and get rich instead of
complaining

mordacp...@hotmail.com

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May 20, 2008, 2:31:12 PM5/20/08
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On May 20, 10:51 am, Clay <ClaysRi...@gmail.com> wrote:


So the U.S. can do it cheaply and easily, and but can't explain why
they won't do it?

I'd rule against them as well.

Scott H

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May 20, 2008, 4:27:16 PM5/20/08
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Clay wrote:
> Court says money discriminates against blind people
> 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
>
> The U.S. discriminates against blind people by printing paper money
> that makes it impossible for them to distinguish among the bills'
> varying values, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday.
>
> The ruling upholds a decision by a lower court in 2006. It could force
> the Treasury Department to redesign its money. Suggested changes have
> ranged from making bills different sizes to printing them with raised
> markings.

I like the raised markings idea.

Efforts to make the world a fair place are to be commended. They would also
make our country look better.


Clay

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May 20, 2008, 9:14:26 PM5/20/08
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On May 20, 2:15 pm, Immortalist... why do I bother?
...
:

> On May 20, 10:51 am, Clay <ClaysRi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Court says money discriminates against blind people
> > 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
>
> > The U.S. discriminates against blind people by printing paper money
> > that makes it impossible for them to distinguish among the bills'
> > varying values, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday.
>
> Convert one of these portable scannershttp://planon.com/docupen_rc800.php

>
> So that when you swipe it across any text it makes little bumps form
> on its surface the blind can read with fingershttp://www.rit.edu/~easi/easisem/jones01.html

>
> Then patent it and sell it to the government and get rich instead of
> complaining

If it were that easy, I'm sure you would've marketed it.

Or, perhaps (and just perhaps)... you just that stupid.

Who knows?

-C-

ZerkonX

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May 21, 2008, 7:41:44 AM5/21/08
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On Tue, 20 May 2008 10:51:07 -0700, Clay wrote:

> Suggested changes have
> ranged from making bills different sizes to printing them with raised
> markings.

.. coins?

Clay

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May 21, 2008, 9:09:07 AM5/21/08
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On May 20, 2:31 pm, mordacpreventorAThotmail.com finally admits:
...

Yes... I know, anti-American..

When it comes to anything that has to do with the U.S. - you'd rule
against us.

No big surprise.

-C-

Amanda Williams

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May 21, 2008, 9:51:53 AM5/21/08
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Clay <clays...@gmail.com> allegedly said in news:b6cf29e3-082b-4e14-
bc36-b1b...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

Every OTHER country in the known universe has NO problem with this so why
all the fuss?

If we can make a change that would help a few million of our
disadvantaged citizen's lives easier they why TF WOULDN'T we do it???

WTF is "anti-american" about THAT you drooling fucking moron????

Reaching our hands out to help our fellow citizens, is the VERY essence
of what this nation WAS about ... before georgie and the hapless GOP sold
out and turned us into a "Fuck you.. I got mine" society.

Finally... WTF has this to do with POLITICS ????

--
AW

<small but dangerous>

wby...@ireland.com

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May 21, 2008, 11:32:08 AM5/21/08
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Life isn't fair, either. I feel for the blind and their challenges as
I do for all physically challenged folks but at some point (this might
not be it) common sense must come into play. The ADA Act as it now
reads would alter any public ground to make it available to folks with
disabilities. If the US contained such antiquities as the Parthenon,
Sicily's Valley of the Temples, and Pompeii these sites would have to
be altered to enable access to those with disabilities. We'd end up
tearing down and remodeling sites that have huge historical
significance so that certain folks could see them better. That's
pretty damn stupid in my opinion.

WB Yeats

Clay

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May 21, 2008, 11:49:34 AM5/21/08
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On May 21, 9:51 am, Let's see if Special Ed Soviet Amy gets it <LOL>:
...

> Clay <clays0nl...@gmail.com> allegedly said in news:b6cf29e3-082b-4e14-
> bc36-b1b19d26d...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

Since the beginning of the republic, this has been NO problem... so
why all the fuss now, Mandy?

> If we can make a change that would help a few million of our
> disadvantaged citizen's lives easier they why TF WOULDN'T we do it???
>
> WTF is "anti-american" about THAT you drooling fucking moron????

This is a spongehead, group-hug, never-been-a-problem, politically
correct issue, Amy. Get a grip, shit-for-brains.

> Reaching our hands out to help our fellow citizens, is the VERY essence
> of what this nation WAS about ... before georgie and the hapless GOP sold
> out and turned us into a "Fuck you.. I got mine" society.

Can you document when money in the hands of blind folks has been a
problem, Mandy?

> Finally... WTF has this to do with POLITICS ????

Well... I'll simply keep you stupid on that matter, Amy.

Why ruin a good thing?

Too motherfucking funny.

-C-

Scott H

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May 21, 2008, 10:42:35 PM5/21/08
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wby...@ireland.com wrote:
> Life isn't fair, either. I feel for the blind and their challenges as
> I do for all physically challenged folks but at some point (this might
> not be it) common sense must come into play.

Common sense says that the disabled are real people just like you. They have
thoughts and feelings of their own, and must wake up every day to the same
life circumstances.

Don't even try to deny it. You know that somewhere out there, there is
something that it's like to be a disabled person. This should compel you
with feelings of sympathy and motivate you to make the world a fair place.

> The ADA Act as it now
> reads would alter any public ground to make it available to folks with
> disabilities. If the US contained such antiquities as the Parthenon,
> Sicily's Valley of the Temples, and Pompeii these sites would have to
> be altered to enable access to those with disabilities. We'd end up
> tearing down and remodeling sites that have huge historical
> significance so that certain folks could see them better. That's
> pretty damn stupid in my opinion.

Slippery slope fallacy. Adding raised markings to American currency will not
require tearing down or remodeling any buildings.

We should be commended for simply making a move.


wby...@ireland.com

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May 22, 2008, 10:01:02 AM5/22/08
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 22:42:35 -0400, "Scott H" <nospam> wrote:

>wby...@ireland.com wrote:
>> Life isn't fair, either. I feel for the blind and their challenges as
>> I do for all physically challenged folks but at some point (this might
>> not be it) common sense must come into play.
>
>Common sense says that the disabled are real people just like you. They have
>thoughts and feelings of their own, and must wake up every day to the same
>life circumstances.

Well. duh. You seem to have a penchant for the obvious.

>Don't even try to deny it. You know that somewhere out there, there is
>something that it's like to be a disabled person. This should compel you
>with feelings of sympathy and motivate you to make the world a fair place.

Thank you Don Quixote.

>> The ADA Act as it now
>> reads would alter any public ground to make it available to folks with
>> disabilities. If the US contained such antiquities as the Parthenon,
>> Sicily's Valley of the Temples, and Pompeii these sites would have to
>> be altered to enable access to those with disabilities. We'd end up
>> tearing down and remodeling sites that have huge historical
>> significance so that certain folks could see them better. That's
>> pretty damn stupid in my opinion.
>
>Slippery slope fallacy. Adding raised markings to American currency will not
>require tearing down or remodeling any buildings.

I didn't say it would. What I did say is that marked money is probably
fixable, and not the place where the ADA becomes inane. Where it does
become inane is as I stated. Comprende? Or do you wish to put wheel
chair ramps everywhere?

WB Yeats

Scott H

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May 22, 2008, 9:40:05 PM5/22/08
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You sound angry, WB Yeats. Would you like to sit down and have some tea?


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