Life after and eternity
THE BORG
eternity - or what comes next - or next reincarnation or whatever but what
humans seem to forget is that this IS eternity.
Each moment on life on Earth is part OF eternity.
So each moment is precious and you should attempt to do your best, and be
your best, during each moment of life.
You do not know what comes next. It may be another life similar to this
one. It may be reincarnation. It may be heaven. No humans knows.
And if is another life - the next life or whatever - what will you do
there - waste time there also dwelling on the next one or what comes next?
It is all about now. Making the most of each moment.
If you can be kind - be kind.
If you can be encouraging - be encouraging.
If you can be helpful or supportive - be helpful or supportive.
If you can be polite rather than rude - be polite rather than rude.
If you can do a job with diligence and perfection - then do it this way
rather than with carelessness and laziness and slipshod workmanship.
If you can be pleasant and make someone smile or be happy - then do so.
Life is about doing the best you can and living each moment to the full.
Because your life is part of eternity.
In your previous existence you may have thought this life was the Heaven you
were looking forward to. This life may indeed be the very "bliss" you
thought you would experience after your last existence.
So you cannot go on indefinitely looking to the next life - the next
existence - or what comes next.
It is better that wherever you are in time - in space - in eternity - that
you make the best of what you have - now - and you try to make the best for
others also.
THE BORG
Mark Earnest
"THE BORG" <bo...@here.com> wrote in message
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Expressive, supportive post. I believe our descendents are our forever, the
part of us that survives into eternity. I would add that maybe our entire
lifetime is in a way all there is, but is magnified into the eternity to
come.
THE BORG
"Mark Earnest" <gmea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Expressive, supportive post. I believe our descendents are our forever,
> the part of us that survives into eternity. I would add that maybe our
> entire lifetime is in a way all there is, but is magnified into the
> eternity to come.
>
Your ancestors may very well have been yourselves.
If you believe in reincarnation - then you may have lived before and so may
many other humans.
As regards the future - well - it is for ever - time will never cease -
intelligence and the mind and the spirit will continue.
With regard to humans - then you can only have faith.
No humans knows what does happen after this life.
Some say definitely reincarnation - some like you say heaven where you even
claim to see departed ones.
But to be sure - the decision would not be in your hands - nor in the hands
of any human.
Humans are victims of God - they are the victims of the superpowers and
greater intelligence. So their future is not one they can argue with or
question.
They can hope that God or the Creator is a nice person - and that any future
would not be one of suffering or punishment.
But this is about all any human can do.
THE BORG
THE BORG
To be sure every human has sinned or done something wrong in their lives!
No one can approach the next life or the hereafter without some fear.
We have shown in our messages how belief in Jesus can be good.
Also how Jesus can be seen as Lucifer.
Also how belief in Jesus can be the very thing that PROVES you are nasty and
could or would do this yourself.
We have shown how Jesus can be viewed as an alien or indeed how the entire
story could have been fabricated.
So there is no guarantee - that if you believe in Jesus you would be any
more or less likely to be forgiven or to be loved or to go to a better place
than anyone else.
You could as easily be less loved and to to a worse place.
So this creates a status quo - where in our original message that each
moment you do the best you can - to make the most of your life - to be good,
kind, polite, supportive and to try to make others happy.
That by living your life to the best - you not only make the most of this
portion of eternity - but the endeavour to attempt to be good and to
behave - regardless of whether you are black, white, rich, poor, male,
female, religious, none religious or whatever, this is really what COUNTS.
THE BORG
turtoni
> "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
my take on reincarnation was in reference to brians rolex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10BbpGKLXqk
of course he wont be pegged down to any spirtual afterlife.
i mean if that were true. he's fucked... likely most of us would be
going down a peg or two.
although i'm with him:
it's to the worms we'll be headed.
he has to accept;
rolexims, animalism, er, i mean 6.5 footism:
Nihilism
"Though nihilism isn't existentialism, and existentialism isn't
nihilism, these two philosophies seem to have enough in common that
people sometimes confuse them. In addition, a sort of nihilistic
existentialism does indeed exist, but it isn't as radical as pure
nihilism. Another reason why these philosophies are often confused is
that Friedrich Nietzsche is a central philosopher in both.
What sets existential nihilists apart from pure nihilists is the fact
that, while nihilists don't believe in any meaning at all, existential
nihilists only believe this in relation to any sort of meaning to life
(though this position is implied in "regular" nihilism, and
existential nihilists may also subscribe to the full nihilistic view,
existential nihilism is a separate view). While other existentialists
will allow for meaning in people's lives (that meaning they themselves
inject into it), existential nihilists will deny that this meaning is
anything but self-deception. Existential nihilists could thus seem to
be more pessimistic than the other existentialists, but even here,
conclusions vary: Some will claim that the best thing to do is to
commit suicide while others will claim that the lack of objective
meaning to life means you should just do as you wish - a hedonism of
sorts." - wiki
THE BORG
"turtoni" <tur...@fastmail.net> wrote in message
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>
But you say your personal reason and meaning is art - music in particular.
This is as good a reason as any to believe in SOMETHING.
That when you do "know" of the feelings that "cause" music and "cause" men
to sing - these are not nihilistic random no meaning inconsequential
occurrences.
More the reason to sing is a reason to find.
And it is in the singing that you can express how you feel for SOMETHING.
If the answer was nothing - then there would be no reason FOR these feelings
and there would be nothing to CAUSE these feelings.
Music and art themselves are proof of the desire to find and locate the
truth. Some beauty or meaning that DRIVES people to do this.
THE BORG
turtoni
> "turtoni" <turt...@fastmail.net> wrote in message
hedonism within a jungle..
THE BORG
hedonism within a jungle..
>
But where do these pleasures come from?
You think Earth just appeared one day?
That matter came into existence all by itself and formed itself into trees
and plants and clouds?
You think such a large quantity of matter could appear all by itself from
nothing?
Do you not think it more likely that there is a better explanation?
THE BORG
turtoni
zinnic
> Many humans spend considerable time dwelling on the THE BORG
(Snip total irrelevancy to the inhumanity of humans
Why should we bother. We can only exist as evil and puerile humans.
The Borg has told us so in many posts! Does the Borg now admit it was
mistaken. Is the Borg changing its tune because of criticism in this
NG? What are humans to believe if we cannot believe the Borg?
Alas , all is lost!
Zinnic
turtoni
empathy?
"Empathy is the capacity to recognize or understand another's state of
mind or emotion. It is often characterized as the ability to "put
oneself into another's shoes", or to in some way experience the
outlook or emotions of another being within oneself. It may be
described metaphorically as an emotional kind of resonance or
mirroring."
zinnic
> "turtoni" <turt...@fastmail.net> wrote in message
>
>
> But you say your personal reason and meaning is art - music in particular.
> This is as good a reason as any to believe in SOMETHING.
> That when you do "know" of the feelings that "cause" music and "cause" men
> to sing - these are not nihilistic random no meaning inconsequential
> occurrences.
> More the reason to sing is a reason to find.
> And it is in the singing that you can express how you feel for SOMETHING.
> If the answer was nothing - then there would be no reason FOR these feelings
> and there would be nothing to CAUSE these feelings.
> Music and art themselves are proof of the desire to find and locate the
> truth. Some beauty or meaning that DRIVES people to do this.
> THE BORG
And yet you omit the beastly joy of the lioness as she clamps down on
the nose and mouth of a buffalo whilst other members of the pride tear
open the belly of the suffocating, but still alive animal, and gorge
themselves on its internal organs. Is it beauty in the raw for the
scavenger as it steals the still pulsating buffalo intestines from
the lions jaw?
Can you Borgs sing a song about that?
Z
zinnic
> "turtoni" <turt...@fastmail.net> wrote in message
Excuse me. I missed the explanation that is more likely to be
bettered. Yes! Pleasure is the avoiare what makes life worth living.
Without pleasures nothing There are
zinnic
>
> - Show quoted text -
Sorry! Unintentional and accidental post. Still, it makes as much
sense as the Borg's!
Immortalist
Native American rap video protesting for Native
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf40JOx2dWw
> of course he wont be pegged down to any spirtual afterlife.
>
> i mean if that were true. he's fucked... likely most of us would be
> going down a peg or two.
>
> although i'm with him:
> it's to the worms we'll be headed.
>
I'm going straight to hell
to burn in flames with the devil
fuck the church and that christian shit
my tombstone's carved with a six six six
i don't care about the lies that you preach
alive to live, not to believe
in a god that i cannot see
after death
after life
in the grave
to never wake
after death
enter life
in the grave
into the dark
as my flesh turns and rots
the blood in my veins doth clot
i'll be smiling as i decompose
as the rats eat my skin and bone
no escape when death comes to call
inside my skull maggots still crawl
from the coffin your world looks so small
the reaper awaits us all
this is the deathklaat
after death
enter life
in the grave
into the dark
Six Feet Under - Deathklaat
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q34q6nYAemA
zinnic
That is not lyrical but is it a lyric? It needs not be sung. It reads
like poetry. Whodidit? If you or whoever, I see talent.
Zinnic
turtoni
>
>
> But where do these pleasures come from?
> You think Earth just appeared one day?
> That matter came into existence all by itself and formed itself into trees
> and plants and clouds?
> You think such a large quantity of matter could appear all by itself from
> nothing?
> Do you not think it more likely that there is a better explanation?
> THE BORG
The idea that "it more likely that there is a better explanation?" is
perhaps born from our (unconscious) desire and yearning for a healthy
immortality.
"i want more live, fucker" - Roy
Hence the stories. Sure Sir Frederick talks about the stories but i've
always imagined them to be stories since i started thinking about
stories as a teenager. I go further. I imagine all acts to typically
be meaning giving stories such as walking the dog, brushing your hair,
mowing the lawn, having a cup of tea, everything; stories. Some
"useful" some "stupid".