Re: Has the GOP collectively lost its mind? It's small, so easy to misplace

[Bret Cahill]

> http://leisureguy.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/gop-inconsistency-on-terro...
>
> GOP inconsistency on terrorist trials
>
> Has the GOP collectively lost its mind?
>
> It’s small, so easy to misplace.
>
> Steve Benen:http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_11/021077.php
>
> We talked yesterday about how Republicans haven’t exactly been
> consistent when it comes to their deeply held beliefs on the perils of
> judicial filibusters.
>
> But their consistency on trials for terrorists is arguably more
> humiliating.
>
> In 2002, the Bush Justice Department put Zacarias Moussaoui, an al
> Qaeda terrorist often referred to as the "20th 9/11 hijacker," on
> trial in a federal court near D.C.
>
> No one, at the time, said then-President Bush was putting American
> lives at risk or undermining U.S. national security interests with the
> trial.
>
> Despite the conservative apoplexy of the last week, the Moussaoui
> trial was simply considered appropriate and routine.
>
> Greg Sargent reported today on a quote from George W. Bush in 2006, in
> which the then-president proclaimed that terrorists should be "tried
> in courts here in the United States."http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/terrorism/bush-in-2006-terrorists-s...
>
> At the time, Bush was waiting for the Supreme Court to rule on the
> military commissions he had established to try alleged members of Al
> Qaeda.
>
> At the presser, he said the administration was waiting for the high
> court to determine the "proper venue" for trying suspected terrorists,
> and seemed to say U.S. courts were a valid venue if it came to it.
>
> At a minimum, Bush clearly saw no problem with bringing suspected
> terrorists to the U.S. for trial — something that the Obama
> administration is now doing, drawing widespread criticism on the
> right.
>
> I haven’t found any evidence of any conservatives criticizing Bush’s
> position or his decision to try Moussaoui in a criminal court on
> American soil.
>
> Likewise, let’s not forget that Rudy Giuliani, one of the leading
> Republican attack dogs on President Obama, said he considered the
> Moussaoui trial a testament to the strength of our legal system and
> the American dedication to the "rule of law."http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f6sQzD-Lr4
>
> Giuliani called the verdict "a symbol of American justice," and said
> the trial itself might improve America’s standing internationally.
>
> After Moussaoui was convicted by a civilian jury, the former mayor
> boasted, "America won tonight."
>
> Similarly, Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), the ranking Republican on the
> Senate Judiciary Committee, called a Khalid Sheikh Mohammed trial
> "indefensible," arguing that it would help terrorists.
>
> But when Bush brought Moussaoui to a criminal courtroom for a trial
> near the Pentagon, Sessions was satisfied with the administration’s
> decision.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/sessions-giuliani-backed_n_3...
>
> Is a little intellectual consistency too much to ask for?
>
> Don’t answer that; it’s a rhetorical question.
>
> __________________________________________________
>
> Harry

That's the Repug plan to be big tent. Put out all kinds of
contradictory noise and hope the right people hear the right nonsense.

Don't ask me how it works.

Bret Cahill

[Bret Cahill]

> >http://leisureguy.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/gop-inconsistency-on-terro...
>
> > GOP inconsistency on terrorist trials
>
> > Has the GOP collectively lost its mind?
>
> > It’s small, so easy to misplace.
>

> While I am a fierce opponent of the criminal Republican party (as well
> as their co-conspirators, the Democrats), I can't help but notice that
> the Democrats seem extremely threatened by a party that is supposedly
> so corrupt, incompetent, ideologically inconsistent, and even insane.

Some of us remember Nazi Germany.

Bret Cahill

[tg]

It's called stochastic resonance, Bret, and it is a real phenomenon.
So they aren't stupid, just intellectually corrupt, with no real
ideas.

-tg

> Bret Cahill

[Bret Cahill]

Each winger dinger faction has it's own band pass filter whereas
normal people hear all the frequencies?

That means there is a sorter somewhere . . . probably Karl Rove.

> So they aren't stupid, just intellectually corrupt, with no real
> ideas.

Lot's of mutually contradictory spin, however.

Bret Cahill

[Dave Heil]

Bret Cahill wrote:
>>> http://leisureguy.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/gop-inconsistency-on-terro...
>>> GOP inconsistency on terrorist trials
>>> Has the GOP collectively lost its mind?

>>> It�s small, so easy to misplace.

>> While I am a fierce opponent of the criminal Republican party (as well
>> as their co-conspirators, the Democrats), I can't help but notice that
>> the Democrats seem extremely threatened by a party that is supposedly
>> so corrupt, incompetent, ideologically inconsistent, and even insane.
>
> Some of us remember Nazi Germany.

You must be older than you act.

Go ahead and try to make a case that the Republican Party is like the
Nazi Party. Godwin has already been invoked.