TIME to close down the IRS, we who said they were out of control were correct

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Obama is so stupid he didn't know the IRS was targeting people......

I've been telling you this for 6 years.


And Obama also wants to "and has been" expanding the IRS.


Why would we do something like expand the IRS like Obama wants, when he
himself is so stupid he couldn't even manage the IRS well enough to keep
it from going rogue. Obama caused IRS TYRANNY all on his own by NOT
watching them. Obama failed yet again.... how many failures is Obama
going to get before Liberals actually hang one on Obama himself?

So far it's all just Liberal-Socialism that has been failing and Obama
had nothing to do with it because he was ON VACATION again.


TIME to close down the IRS, we who said they were out of control were
correct and those like Obama that say the IRS and bigger government work
was absolutely wrong.
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*Rumination*
#3.0.1 - Liberals seem to think the only gun owners with any rights are
the criminals.....

[Notuf Questions]

On May 16, 1:42 pm, BeamMeUpScotty

Abolish the IRS ?? How supply roads, military, clean water ... ???

[BeamMeUpScotty]

A sales tax, after you repeal the 16 amendment and the income tax and
IRS is gone. It was a 100 year experiment and it failed as all
Liberal-Socialist policies do.

IRS
1913-20013
R.I.P.




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*Rumination*





*Love your country, but fear your Government*

Reducing regulations is primary since regulation is what stifles
commerce, the more regulations, the more it costs our economy. Most
regulations are used by existing businesses to reduce competition, and
competition would help us get out of this depression.

End the "war on drugs" make them legal (increase competition) and sold
at any drug store and push for prostitution to be legal too, that will
take the BIG money out of trafficking in drugs, and that will reduce the
gangs/dealers income and that should reduce the value of sex slaves and
hurt the human trafficking business income also. Why have illegal
prostitutes when there are so many legal tax paying prostitutes out there?


Create Bi-color money, Red money for inside the USA and Original Green
money outside the USA..... NOTHING BUT A COLOR/INK difference, and
suddenly sending red money home to Mexico would be useless as the RED
money would be useless in Mexico since the Banks and etc wouldn't accept
it abroad. All electronic money leaving the USA would be debited the
Sales tax when the money is sent/spent.

The Drug dealers would have Red money that they need to exchange for
green money, makes it hard to do in large amounts and hard to spend and
more expensive to deal with….. that *makes Drug smuggling less*
*profitable* as would dropping the income tax and installing a
NATIONAL “NEW ITEM” SALES TAX *NOT* IMPLEMENTING A VAT TAX WHICH WILL
HELP THE DRUG DEALERS and illegals by making their tax free money
leaving the country even more valuable. If they had to buy/exchange the
RED money for GREEN money then you would charge the sales tax at that
point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7FshBjkS6U&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dogpile.com%2Finfo.dogpl.prefer%2Fsearch%2Fweb%3Fq%3Dportugal-legalizes-drugs--crime-usage-falls

Have the States Ratify an amendment withdrawing the 16th amendment...
Maybe enact something similar to the http://fairtax.org (Federal sales
tax) *BUT NOT A VAT or VALUE ADDED TAX* with the same mendment that
removes income tax and the IRS, preferably a Federal *NEW ITEM* sales tax.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7AgwtSzxt8

This will reduce the number of tax crimes that people are in jails for
and it will give the people back their privacy. It will also promote
*GREEN* living where people will save more and waste less and buy second
hand and wear things out rather than discard and buy new. Then add to
the amendment that *if congress raises any tax by* 1% *they are forced*
*to cut* every single expenditure of the *government by* 3%.

Begin to draw down troops as needed from around the world. Put half of
our military bases along the southern Border to minimize the amount of
border that the Border patrol needs to watch, the military and Federal
trespassing laws will push the illegals to spaces between the military
bases.

This tax/border policy will financially assault the drug dealers and
hookers and other underground economy's by forcing them to have to pay
tax when they *spend their money* , which will further reduce the
benefit of dealing in other illegal stuff. There needs to be one type
of dollar for use inside America and one type(color) of dollars for use
outside the USA. That will make it harder for smugglers to get money out
of the country and if they do spend it here then they will pay the sales
tax and that money is used to enforce the laws to catch smugglers and
terrorists. We are "right now" taking money from peoples pay checks
before they get them and at the same time we don't tax drug dealers
terrorists or hookers or illegals or others at all, we are penalizing
the working Americans and giving a TAX loop hole bonus to illegal
activity. Sales tax will also encourage saving money rather than
encouraging the leveraging of every dime you can borrow like income tax
does.

This will drive people in the underground economy to become part of the
real economy. It will stop most of the turf killings and end our
immigration problems with illegals stealing identities since they will
be paying tax(as sales tax). Offer illegals less welfare and charge them
tax and they won't be so eager to come here and we won't need to chase
them......

End Social Security/Medicare, grandfather it out of existence.

Pass an amendment to the constitution that makes all
*laws_and_treaties* have a seven year sunset clause, and it requires
that each law/treaty be voted by a separate roll call vote every seven
years to continue to be maintained in our laws.

There should also be some constitutional amendments to stifle congress'
borrowing and spending making it more difficult for that process. And a
constitutional amendment to limit the Interstate Commerce Clause. The
politicians use that clause to justify all sorts of socialist crap. The
founding fathers never meant for it to be so broadly applied. Limit it
with an amendment, so government can't justify every crazy idea by
saying its legal under the interstate commerce clause.

Pass another amendment creating term limits on congress so the House
has 6 terms and the Senate has 2 terms, for a total of 12 years in
either side of congress. WE NEED TO STOP CONGRESS FROM PASSING FRIVOLOUS
LAWS TAXES AND BORROWING AND ENDLESSLY PRINTING MONEY.

To quit filling the jails with people over *social taboos* , we need to
take away congress' ability to "social engineer" businesses or private
people by removing the governments use of tax code to manipulate people.

Government needs to spend 10% less every year until they meet the
income of the government. The best way, is to
*use_both_cutting_and_taxing* , the Congress should implement a rule to
force an across the board spending freeze/cap (That only allows cutting
spending) and then across the board cuts on the government spending, to
do that we have to include a law in our TAX amendment to the
constitution that can't be easily circumvented, to force them to cut
spending 3% for every 1% Congress raise taxes. So any federal sales tax
increase would result in automatic spending cuts using a baseline of 10%
taxes.

And we need to give up our roll as the police man of the world, let
them fight their own fights. We also need fewer crimes for people to be
committing, we need fewer police and prisons to support.... the above
drug and tax plan, will reduce police and prison needs by at least that
10% that this plan suggested cutting each year.

NO welfare to corporations, and cut welfare to private people by 10%
each year until it is 10% of today's cost. Any way you look at it, we're
in DEEP for a long time.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 5/16/2013 4:05 PM, Notuf Questions wrote:

A sales tax, after you repeal the 16 amendment and the income tax and
IRS is gone. It was a 100 year experiment and it failed as all
Liberal-Socialist policies do.

IRS

1913-2013
R.I.P.


*Rumination*
#34 - Government employees call hemorrhoids a workplace injury.

[Stormin Mormon]

Same way we did before IRS.
Roads and water are state's
responsibility. Same with water.
.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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[David J. Hughes]

Roads are, in theory, paid for by taxes on gasoline and diesel.
Clean water by regulatory fees.
The framers of the Constitution thought a standing army was a bad idea,
they only supported a standing Navy (and, by extension, Coast Guard).

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 5/16/2013 4:55 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Same way we did before IRS.
> Roads and water are state's
> responsibility. Same with water.

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> Abolish the IRS ?? How supply roads,
> military, clean water ... ???
>

The Feds supply me with clean water?



I have yet to get my shipment....


The filter I use is one I buy with "after tax" income.

[Stormin Mormon]

Didn't you know? Obama gives you
clean air, too.

Bush tried to take your clean air away.
Must be true, they said so on TV.

.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
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[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 5/16/2013 4:55 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

> Same way we did before IRS.
> Roads and water are state's
> responsibility. Same with water.

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> Abolish the IRS ?? How supply roads,
> military, clean water ... ???
>

The Feds supply me with clean water?

I have yet to get my free government shipment....


The filter I use is one that I buy with "after tax" income.


And the filter takes out the stuff the Feds say that they don't allow in
the water.


Shouldn't I be getting a refund from the government since they don't
give me already clean water for free?

[BeamMeUpScotty]

[tooly]

It is naïve to think Obama was not aware of what the IRS was doing. How else can you explain woman who oversaw much of this now being given IRS responsibility for Obamacare enforcement. I'm telling you, underneath this President is a seething insurgent who 'hates' traditional America, and anything relating to it [like whites, euro centric heritage, Wall Street etc]. He is clever...not 'stupid'...in that he would use whatever 'weapon' at his disposal to eradicate that 'traditional America' [here represented by the Tea party, and conservative groups et.al]. But he knows it must be 'clandestine'...within the system, behind the scenes, little bit by little bit. He calculated wrong with this IRS scandal, thinking the IRS was 'out of view' I'm sure.

It's the CULTURE he has inspired throughout his administration; hiring and appointing people who 'think like he does', who want to bring Traditional America 'down', casting out the founding inheritance as much as possible, or as Anita Dunn declared 'Mao was her most admired political philosopher' [not Jefferson, Washington, or Lincoln].

I hope the hell this IRS 'disease' can be traced back to Obama 'directly' so we can start impeachment proceedings 'post haste'.

We have to get this guy out of there. Our 'survival' depends on it [in all ways we should see now].

[Zinnic]

Seems to me that, with the total exclusion of reality, your fanatical political drive is to crticise Obama and his administration for any and all of their actions. I guess you even believe that by requiring a marine to hold an umbrella he was in fact abusing and diminishing the Marine Corp ?
When Obama serves out his term in office you will no longer have your "bete noire" to vent on. The bad news for you is that he will be replaced by Hilary. The good news is that you will not miss a step because then she will provide the "femme fatale" on whom you can continue to unload your atavistic predujices.
Keep up the good work. Such pettiness from the "far Right" will ensure it's irrelevance.
Zinnic