Bret Cahill
Watching the end of US democracy - you mean.
Their aint a nickel's worth of difference between Clinton and Junior
when it comes to the big NWO items;
Open borders
War on Iraq
Destruction of Palestinians
NAFTA
WTO
Destruction of US Jobs and Economy
Corruption in Government
etc
When it comes to the #1 issue facing Americans, i.e., the economy,
Bill Clinton delivered a high tax economic boom that balanced the
budget while Dumbya delivered the worst financial meltdown since the
Great Depression.
Bret Cahill
You're either a bald faced liar or dillusional.(or both)
Pinning it all on Dubya is a vast oversimplification. The
patterns in housing started before 2000.
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Les Cargill
Bush presided over 8 years of deterioration of the system and did
nothing.
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>Les Cargill
no, actually, he is exactly right. This train wreck started under
Bush. The economy was doing great under Clinton. Look it up.
That's a lie. He did all he could to add fuel to the bubble.
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>>Les Cargill
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"Those are my opinions and you can't have em" -- Bart Simpson
What happened before 2003 is really quite irrelevant. Bill Clinton did
not create the bubble blowing tax cuts of 1997, nor did he make the laws
in 1999 and 2000. The Republican Congress did all of that and Clinton,
hamstrung by Lewinsky and Paula Jones, was in no position to sustain a
veto on anything the Newt Gingrich Republicans did in the way of Reagan
worship and deregulation.
however!!
That is not the real issue. The reality is that George Bush abused all
of the circumstances of the very minor hickey in the economy in early
2001 and the events of 9/11 to destroy the good policies of the 90's
while blowing the biggest housing bubble the world has ever seen. No
mortgage defined before 2003 failed without handing the lender a nice
capital gain. It was the crap that was done AFTER the Supremes appointed
Bush that blew a housing bubble and wrecked the economy. The Republicans
controlled the entire government the entire time the bubble was being
inflated.
It was Bush's fault.
He's doing a lot. The stimulus money stopped the crash. The markets
are stable. Or can't you pay attention?
Bush gets the credit for getting Obama elected in the first place. If
you conservatives didn't prove yourself to be so goddamned stupid then
Obama wouldn't have won by such a landslide.
Altho, just how far back to try to untangle the threads of
responsibility is a damn moot point. I often start with Carter's
diagnosis of the "American Malaise". And now that we have fMRI brain
scans, electron microscopy, and brain chemistry, we can see that you
cant expect maximal childhood mental development raising kids on sugar
cereals, junk food, and soda.
So, what we have now is an electorate that is not rational enuf to deal
with the complexity of modern politics and economics. Arguably, it would
be a whole lot worse for the USA if it had not exported the same diet to
all the other developed economies, who now also see epidemics of
obesity. and terminal stupidity.
Whatever Obama does at this point will be largely affected by the global
malaise that could confound even the wisest policy any partisan could
get enacted. However, I do see some hope that the postings may reveal
more rational policy that percolates up to the power elites. After all,
eye candy dont work here. Every line can be parsed out to see if it is
logically consistent with the rest of the presentation.
Its not like the podium or pulpit where nobody stands to challenge BS,
or let the speaker go on over it as if it was reality. Sometimes, its
the silence that follows truth which is the most telling.
They had better get a grip on reality; time is running out. Archeology
magazine has an informative piece on the Mayan writing behind the 2012
apocalypse, and mentions all the pseudo scientific BS that spawned. But
because of the American Malaise, many will buy into it, making 2012 a
self fulfilling prophecy.
It does not matter that its all bullshit, only that so many buy into it,
and Fox news will be right there selling it til they are all dragged out
to be shot.
>> That is not the real issue. The reality is that George Bush abused
>> all of the circumstances of the very minor hickey in the economy in
>> early 2001 and the events of 9/11 to destroy the good policies of
>> the 90's while blowing the biggest housing bubble the world has ever
>> seen. No mortgage defined before 2003 failed without handing the
>> lender a nice capital gain. It was the crap that was done AFTER the
>> Supremes appointed Bush that blew a housing bubble and wrecked the
>> economy. The Republicans controlled the entire government the
>> entire time the bubble was being inflated.
> Reasonable.
> Altho, just how far back to try to untangle the threads of
> responsibility is a damn moot point. I often start with Carter's
> diagnosis of the "American Malaise". And now that we have fMRI brain scans, electron microscopy, and brain chemistry,
> we can see that you cant expect maximal childhood mental development raising kids on sugar cereals, junk food, and
> soda.
Must be what produced Manson etc. Fool.
> So, what we have now is an electorate that is not rational enuf to deal with the complexity of modern politics and
> economics.
Drug crazed fools like you in spades.
> Arguably, it would be a whole lot worse for the USA if it had not exported the same diet to all the other developed
> economies, who now also see epidemics of obesity. and terminal stupidity.
True of drugs in spades, fool.
> Whatever Obama does at this point will be largely affected by the global malaise that could confound even the wisest
> policy any partisan could get enacted. However, I do see some hope that the postings may reveal more rational policy
> that percolates up to the power elites.
There are no power elites. Just bums like Obummer.
> After all, eye candy dont work here. Every line can be parsed out to see if it is logically consistent with the rest
> of the presentation.
Drug crazed cripples dont have a hope of doing anything like that.
> Its not like the podium or pulpit where nobody stands to challenge BS, or let the speaker go on over it as if it was
> reality. Sometimes, its the silence that follows truth which is the most telling.
You wouldnt know what truth was if it bit you on your drug crazed cripple lard arse.
> They had better get a grip on reality; time is running out.
Fools ran the same line during the great depression.
> Archeology magazine has an informative piece on the Mayan writing behind the 2012 apocalypse, and mentions all the
> pseudo scientific BS that spawned. But because of the American Malaise, many will buy into it, making 2012 a self
> fulfilling prophecy.
Only in your pathetic little drug crazed cripple fantasyland.
> It does not matter that its all bullshit, only that so many buy into
> it, and Fox news will be right there selling it til they are all
> dragged out to be shot.
How odd that none ever were during the great depression, fool.