Old Repugliars & the Rightard Revolution
Bret Cahill
GOP?
Bret Cahill
AZDuffman
Dude, does your life consist of anything but hating the GOP and white
people in general?
Werner
But Bret, how can they both be smart enough to conspire and dumb
enough to be Republican? How can Bush be both a dumb Chimp and clever
enough to fool Congressional Dems to vote for war?
You should worry about either of them taking over the country. OOOPS!
Too late.
Bret Cahill
> > GOP?
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
> But Bret, how can they
Who is "they?"
> both be smart
How smart do you have to be in U. S. politics?
> enough to conspire
Who said anything about a conspiracy?
You conspiracy theorist wackos need to get back to reality.
Bret Cahill
Democracy Highlander
> GOP?
Read the following article. In GOP NOBODY is allowed to think on their
own anymore.
Thinking and having an opinion it is punishable in GOP:
"""
... and would prohibit RNC funds from going to GOP candidates who
disagree with elements of a proposed ten plan ideological platform.
...
"This would establish standards for candidates and hold them
accountable to RNC's conservative platform," he told CNN. "We are open
to diverse views, but you do have to agree with us most of the time."
"""
From: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/23/rnc-socialist-resolution-returns/
The same was with Talibans. If you do not agree with their
fundamentalist view of Islam you are an infidel and thei have the
right to kill you.
The same was valid with Hitler. Members of Nazi party were allowed to
have their own opinion how long that meant worshiping the fuhrer,
hating the Jews and agreeing 100% with Himmler's propaganda. The
dissidents were "visited" by Gestapo.
Stalin was notorious for sending to gulag anyone who was only
suspected to not have their opinion in sync with the fundamentalist
Communist ideology.
Now the Republican poarty follow on the same road leading to tyrany.
When a leading minority impose with intolerance a view on all the
members, that is no longer a decent party. That is no longer a party
where good ideas have any chance to surface. That is a dungeon party,
where infidels and dissidents are punished for not following the
"supreme leader's" will. Now GOP are the precursors of an absolutist
ideology.
I hope this party will be kept away from power, otherwise they may
open the door for tyranny in America.
Bret Cahill
> > GOP?
>
> Read the following article. In GOP NOBODY is allowed to think on their
> own anymore.
> Thinking and having an opinion it is punishable in GOP:
> """
> ... and would prohibit RNC funds from going to GOP candidates who
> disagree with elements of a proposed ten plan ideological platform.
> ...
> "This would establish standards for candidates and hold them
> accountable to RNC's conservative platform," he told CNN. "We are open
> to diverse views, but you do have to agree with us most of the time."
> """
> From:http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/23/rnc-socialist-resolut...
>
> The same was with Talibans. If you do not agree with their
> fundamentalist view of Islam you are an infidel and thei have the
> right to kill you.
Hopefully rightards are too dumb and lazy to set road side bombs.
> The same was valid with Hitler. Members of Nazi party were allowed to
> have their own opinion how long that meant worshiping the fuhrer,
> hating the Jews and agreeing 100% with Himmler's propaganda. The
> dissidents were "visited" by Gestapo.
>
> Stalin was notorious for sending to gulag anyone who was only
> suspected to not have their opinion in sync with the fundamentalist
> Communist ideology.
>
> Now the Republican poarty follow on the same road leading to tyrany.
> When a leading minority impose with intolerance a view on all the
> members, that is no longer a decent party. That is no longer a party
> where good ideas have any chance to surface. That is a dungeon party,
> where infidels and dissidents are punished for not following the
> "supreme leader's" will. Now GOP are the precursors of an absolutist
> ideology.
>
> I hope this party will be kept away from power, otherwise they may
> open the door for tyranny in America.
Very little chance of that in the info age.
Bret Cahill
Rod Speed
>>> Did old Republicans set things up for a winger dinger take over of
>>> the GOP?
>>
>> Read the following article. In GOP NOBODY is allowed to think on
>> their own anymore.
>> Thinking and having an opinion it is punishable in GOP:
>> """
>> ... and would prohibit RNC funds from going to GOP candidates who
>> disagree with elements of a proposed ten plan ideological platform.
>> ...
>> "This would establish standards for candidates and hold them
>> accountable to RNC's conservative platform," he told CNN. "We are
>> open to diverse views, but you do have to agree with us most of the
>> time." """
>> From:http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/23/rnc-socialist-resolut...
>>
>> The same was with Talibans. If you do not agree with their
>> fundamentalist view of Islam you are an infidel and thei have the
>> right to kill you.
> Hopefully rightards are too dumb and lazy to set road side bombs.
They do it the hi tech way and completely implode the entire world financial system, again.
>> The same was valid with Hitler. Members of Nazi party were allowed to
>> have their own opinion how long that meant worshiping the fuhrer,
>> hating the Jews and agreeing 100% with Himmler's propaganda. The
>> dissidents were "visited" by Gestapo.
>>
>> Stalin was notorious for sending to gulag anyone who was only
>> suspected to not have their opinion in sync with the fundamentalist
>> Communist ideology.
>>
>> Now the Republican poarty follow on the same road leading to tyrany.
>> When a leading minority impose with intolerance a view on all the
>> members, that is no longer a decent party. That is no longer a party
>> where good ideas have any chance to surface. That is a dungeon party,
>> where infidels and dissidents are punished for not following the
>> "supreme leader's" will. Now GOP are the precursors of an absolutist
>> ideology.
>>
>> I hope this party will be kept away from power, otherwise they may
>> open the door for tyranny in America.
> Very little chance of that in the info age.
There was no chance of that even before that in the great democracys.
They are setup in a way that eliminates that possibility.
Democracy Highlander
> There was no chance of that even before that in the great democracys.
>
> They are setup in a way that eliminates that possibility.
Do not forget that Hitler got into power by 100% democratic elections.
Only after he took the power he manipulated the system to suppress
democracy and set up dictatorship.
While democracy is the best system ever tried, it is a very fragile
system.
The democracy ride against the natural intent of any political force
to insure it supremacy forever.
As a result, democracy it is always in what the engineers call "a
system in dynamic equilibrium".
There is nothing wrong with a system in dynamic equilibrium how long
the controller work properly.
However, for a controller to work properly 2 conditions must be
satisfied:
a) The controller to implement the right algorithms, in our case that
translate to the electorate being decently educated.
b) The controller to receive correct measurements, in our case that
translate to the electorate being informed correctly.
Well, unfortunate both points are with problems in US. And at both of
them US score way behing all other Western democracies.
a) Education in US lag behind any other industrialized country.
From:
http://4brevard.com/choice/international-test-scores.htm
"""
Results In short, the tests showed U.S. fourth-graders performing
poorly, middle school students worse. and high school students are
unable to compete.
"""
b) Information. Here the problem it is at least as bad as in
education. The US mass-media is in the hands of corporations. This is
a bias factor from the start. US media will always try to sugar coat
any story where the corporate power or free-markets are put into a bad
light, while exacerbating the importance of any story that shows free-
market or corporate world achievements. While this bias may be enough
to screw up the system, this is the smallest part of the problem.
The biggest part is that any private company will go for profits. As a
result they pay way more attention to rating that to the truth. The
uneducated viewers also tend to gather in groups where the news anchor
favor the views they already hold and avoid stations presenting
different view points. If to a polarized audience you present some
news they do not like, you affect the rating. Since the rating it is
more important than the truth, the corporate media will always self
censor
and avoid news that may "disturb" their audience. As a result, the
average American do not get access to the truth but to pseudo-news
which just reinforce the views he already holds. Such an individual
can not make any informed decision.
Looking at the 2 factors, we must be very concerned about the future
of democracy in US. Far away from being stable, US democracy it is a
system rather at the edge of collapse. As mater of fact, US democracy
it already is a very very dysfunctional system.
What another country in the world will have gangs of nut-shells
protesting against their own right to decent health care?
What another country in the world after a massive economic collapse
will oppose more regulations on the crooked financial sector?
On what another country in the world you have a large number of
workers protesting against workers rights, against guaranteed vacation
and income security ?
Brainwashing do work on weak minds.
MOTTO: The sleep of reason breed monsters
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> Bret Cahill wrote
>>> Democracy Highlander wrote
>>>> The same was valid with Hitler. Members of Nazi party
>>>> were allowed to have their own opinion how long that
>>>> meant worshiping the fuhrer, hating the Jews and
>>>> agreeing 100% with Himmler's propaganda.
Didnt have to be 100%, most obviously with Goring.
>>>> The dissidents were "visited" by Gestapo.
Hordes of them never were.
>>>> Stalin was notorious for sending to gulag anyone who
>>>> was only suspected to not have their opinion in sync
>>>> with the fundamentalist Communist ideology.
>>>> Now the Republican poarty follow on the same road leading to tyrany.
Completely and utterly mindlessly silly. You dont get tyrany in the great democracys anymore.
There's a reason you dont.
>>>> When a leading minority impose with intolerance a view
>>>> on all the members, that is no longer a decent party.
When that happens, the worst that happens in the great democracys
is that that party becomes completely irrelevant politically.
>>>> That is no longer a party where good ideas have any chance to surface.
That never happens in the great democracys.
>>>> That is a dungeon party, where infidels and dissidents
>>>> are punished for not following the "supreme leader's" will.
Doesnt happen in the great democracys.
>>>> Now GOP are the precursors of an absolutist ideology.
Nope. And they are electorally irrelevant federally anyway now
that those clowns have just completely imploded the entire
world financial system and even the stupidest voter has noticed.
>>>> I hope this party will be kept away from power, otherwise
>>>> they may open the door for tyranny in America.
Not a chance.
>>> Very little chance of that in the info age.
>> There was no chance of that even before that in the great democracys.
>> They are setup in a way that eliminates that possibility.
> Do not forget that Hitler got into power by 100% democratic elections.
Like hell he did. Pity about the Putsch.
> Only after he took the power he manipulated the system to suppress democracy
Another pig ignorant lie.
In fact the Reichstag was stupid enough to vote itself out of existence,
something that can never happen in the great democracys, its unconstitutional.
> and set up dictatorship.
> While democracy is the best system ever tried, it is a very fragile system.
Like hell it is in the great democracys. We havent even had a dictator since
Cromwell and even the english wouldnt be stupid enough to do that again.
> The democracy ride against the natural intent
> of any political force to insure it supremacy forever.
And in the great democracys, not only do some of them have
fixed terms for the prez, he just goes quietly when his term is up.
Its done like that for a reason.
> As a result, democracy it is always in what the
> engineers call "a system in dynamic equilibrium".
In fact the worst excesses like tyranny just plain cant happen.
> There is nothing wrong with a system in dynamic
> equilibrium how long the controller work properly.
> However, for a controller to work properly 2 conditions must be satisfied:
> a) The controller to implement the right algorithms,
And the great democracys must have worked that
out since we havent seen a dictator since Cromwell.
> in our case that translate to the electorate being decently educated.
Like hell it does.
> b) The controller to receive correct measurements, in our
> case that translate to the electorate being informed correctly.
Mindlessly mangled all over again.
> Well, unfortunate both points are with problems in US.
How odd that we havent seen a dictator at all, let alone a tyranny.
Even complete arseholes like Cheney couldnt manage anything like one.
And there is a reason why he couldnt.
> And at both of them US score way behing all other Western democracies.
Yes, but it aint what avoids dictatorship and tyranny in the great democracys.
> a) Education in US lag behind any other industrialized country.
> From:
> http://4brevard.com/choice/international-test-scores.htm
> """
> Results In short, the tests showed U.S. fourth-graders performing
> poorly, middle school students worse. and high school students are
> unable to compete.
> """
And the US is STILL where we see the full commercialisation of almost
all technology first ANYWAY.
That proves that that ranking is mindlessly superficial
and completely irrelevant to outcomes in the real world.
Japan does MUCH better in those rankings and ended up
with the same party in power for FIFTY FUCKING YEARS.
Singapore with the highest ranking of all not only has a dictatorship,
there isnt even the slightest possibility of the opposition ever forming govt.
> b) Information. Here the problem it is at least as bad as in education.
Even sillier.
> The US mass-media is in the hands of corporations.
There's always been a hell of a lot more than just the mass media, stupid.
> This is a bias factor from the start.
And the hippys happened anyway.
> US media will always try to sugar coat any story where
> the corporate power or free-markets are put into a bad
> light, while exacerbating the importance of any story that
> shows free-market or corporate world achievements.
And the hippys happened anyway.
> While this bias may be enough to screw up the system,
Like hell it does.
> this is the smallest part of the problem. The biggest
> part is that any private company will go for profits.
Thats not a problem, its why the west works so well.
> As a result they pay way more attention to rating that to the truth.
Doesnt matter a damn what they do.
> The uneducated viewers also tend to gather in groups where
> the news anchor favor the views they already hold and avoid
> stations presenting different view points. If to a polarized
> audience you present some news they do not like, you affect
> the rating. Since the rating it is more important than the truth,
> the corporate media will always self censor and avoid news
> that may "disturb" their audience. As a result, the average
> American do not get access to the truth but to pseudo-news
> which just reinforce the views he already holds. Such an
> individual can not make any informed decision.
And Obummer got elected anyway.
> Looking at the 2 factors, we must be very concerned about
> the future of democracy in US. Far away from being stable,
> US democracy it is a system rather at the edge of collapse.
Fools ran the same line during the great depression.
> As mater of fact, US democracy it already is a very very dysfunctional system.
Yes, its very difficult to get major change like a universal single payer health care system.
But it works anyway. The shrub went quietly when his two terms were up.
> What another country in the world will have gangs of nut-shells
> protesting against their own right to decent health care?
That has happened in EVERY SINGLE FIRST AND
SECOND WORLD COUNTRY that has gone that route.
> What another country in the world after a massive economic collapse
> will oppose more regulations on the crooked financial sector?
That has happened in EVERY SINGLE FIRST AND
SECOND WORLD COUNTRY that has gone that route.
> On what another country in the world you have a large
> number of workers protesting against workers rights,
> against guaranteed vacation and income security ?
That has happened in EVERY SINGLE FIRST AND
SECOND WORLD COUNTRY that has gone that route.
> Brainwashing do work on weak minds.
Yes, but those dont even bother to vote most of the time.
> MOTTO: The sleep of reason breed monsters
Not in the great democracys it doesnt. They have
been deliberately engineered so that they survive that.
And it works.
Michael Coburn
In any decent dictionary, right next to the word "conspiracy" we should
see a picture of an elephant wearing a flag pin and holding a bible. And
just next to that should be a picture of a donkey.
A POLITICAL PARTY IS MOST OFTEN A CONSPIRACY TO DEFEAT THE POPULAR WILL.
The "herding cats" Democrats are much less conspiratorial than the "lock
step" Republicans.
--
"Those are my opinions and you can't have em" -- Bart Simpson
Day Brown
> Did old Republicans set things up for a winger dinger take over of the
> GOP?
methods?" and the assassin says:"I dont see a method." Nobody has a grip
on the GOP anymore. All Obama has on the Democrats are a couple fingers.
Les Cargill
> Bret Cahill wrote:
>> Did old Republicans set things up for a winger dinger take over of the
>> GOP?
> Remember in "Apocalypse Now", the old leader says:"You dont like my
> methods?" and the assassin says:"I dont see a method." Nobody has a grip
> on the GOP anymore.
Sure they do. People like Ted Haggard are The Base's avatars.
Unfortunately, they're all nucking futs. So the Apocolpyse Now
parallel is perhaps more apt than you realize. The man had
a very public gay panic with meth garnish, and is now so
far in the closet he's finding Christmas presents.
I'm not "organized religious" but if I were, I would be raising a
stink to high heaven about the "prosperity gospel" weasels
claiming to represent me. In fact, the pastors at the last church I
attended *did* that, but fat lotta good it did. The social
utility of megachurches (especially for mate-finding ) is
very high.
You get things like this, though:
http://www.gutschurch.com/
which makes me think if "what if Dethclok discovers that
churches have tax-exempt status?" Or one of the old school
TV preachers decide to MAXIM magazine the whole thing.
How can these people be taken seriously? *This* is what
William F. Buckley was thinking about? It's a caricature
of a caricature. It is anacephalic and ludicrous. It's
the Idiocracy of megachurches.
> All Obama has on the Democrats are a couple fingers.
Barely. And of the Repubs manage to swing the center again ( HAH! ),
he won't have that. When the Pelosinoids manage to Californicate
health care, they will be Done, and... that's that.
For the first time in my lifetime, there's a complete
opposition in direction between the Republican party's
brains and where the politics is headed. This can't be good,
because the Democrats have eschewed rational thought all but
completely.
--
Les Cargill
Day Brown
many perverts way too often. I can see how, if all clerics were women,
the boys mite sometimes get fucked, but in that case the mothers will be
grateful considering the effect of imprinting. And of course, the boys
dont get pregnant.
> For the first time in my lifetime, there's a complete
> opposition in direction between the Republican party's
> brains and where the politics is headed. This can't be good,
> because the Democrats have eschewed rational thought all but
> completely.
A pox on all their houses. Not that what I think will have any effect.
But I can see how a new, more fiscally responsible and socially
effective party could be formed on the Internet, and then sweep all the
bastards out of office.
Rod Speed
> Les Cargill wrote
>> You get things like this, though:
>> http://www.gutschurch.com/
> I think the time of religions run by men is rapidly passing.
I dont, I think its only doing that slowly.
Essentially because so many need a crutch for their pathetically inadequate 'minds'
> Too many perverts way too often. I can see how, if all clerics were women, the boys mite sometimes get fucked,
And that is in fact what we do see with schools etc.
> but in that case the mothers will be grateful considering the effect of imprinting.
How odd that they aint when it happens in schools.
> And of course, the boys dont get pregnant.
Those molested by priests dont either.
It does rather comprehensively fuck quite a few of them mentally tho.
>> For the first time in my lifetime, there's a complete opposition in direction between the Republican party's brains
>> and where the politics is headed. This can't be good, because the Democrats have eschewed rational thought all but
>> completely.
> A pox on all their houses. Not that what I think will have any effect.
> But I can see how a new, more fiscally responsible and socially
> effective party could be formed on the Internet, and then sweep all the bastards out of office.
Just another of your silly little fantasys. The political system doesnt work like that and there is a reason why it
doesnt.