Uirgil has doubt's about his faith - no evidence for Dawkin's Gods:
> On 1/04/2012 4:53 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> On 1/04/2012 9:46 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> On 1/04/2012 8:46 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> On 23/02/2012 4:23 PM, microm2...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> It is common sense that science ought not be fighting innocent
>>>>> people's beliefs.
>>>> Science does not fight religion, atheism does, and atheism
>>>> is not science, it's an ideology with one basic idea which in
>>>> the 20th century killed over 80,000,000 people in the atheist
>>>> regimes of Lenin, Stalin Mao and Pol Pot.. far more than any
>>>> religion.
Mo one disputes the historical facts, which disprove for all time the
atheist hypothesis that they are more rational than the civilisations influenced by religion.
So the atheists always return to sterile and pointless arguments about
THE EXISTENCE of GOD! pffffft!
>>>>> But both sides have went to far...
>>>> Exactly, the extremes of atheist regimes in the modern era
>>>> and of religious theocracies (fortunately no longer the norm,
>>>> as majority religious societies around the world have
>>>> evolved free, open, tolerant, progressive, rights-based secular
>>>> democracies (something no atheist state ever managed to do).
>>> Atheist mean one
>> I agree with your definition of an atheist, especially
>> the ones responsible for the atheist holocaust.
>>> without a theology!
So the complete SUPPRESSION of belief in the atheist regimes of
the 20th century was MORE tyrannical than any religious societies of earlier times, and FAR MORE evil and violent than the modern, free, open, tolerant secular democratic states which MAJORITY religious societies built in EVERY instance, not one decent democracy was EVER achieved by atheist governments! B^o
>> But do you think 'mean one' really covers the bestial tyranny
>> that EVERY atheist regime in history has been? The brutality
>> of atheist states was exceptional.
>>> Theists and non theists.
>>> One is no more or less moral than the other.
>> Clearly not true, in the modern era majority theist societies
>> have evolved the free open, progressive, tolerant secular states
>> ..something which no atheist regime ever did.
>> Unlike religion, then, the history of Atheism is one of
>> UNMITIGATED terror torture and Mass murder.. in EVERY atheist
>> state ever to curse humanity by existing!!!!
>> You need to develop a sense of moral judgement, fairness and balance.
>>>>> The extremes need to lose on both sides.
>>>> Exactly, Religious civilisations have progressively muted their
>>>> extremes (the modern secular democracies created by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS
>>>> societies are far superior to any religious society of the ancient or
>>>> medieval times) and the Atheist regimes have reduced their extremes by
>>>> collapsing catastrophically, leaving only a tiny remnant of weak,
>>>> ineffectual, irrational atheist drones, who are allowed to flog the
>>>> dead horse of Fundamentalism as a minor public service to the rest of us
>>>> (we let them delude themselves that they are slaying dragons, when
>>>> fundamentalism is already defeated by the secularism the moderate
>>>> religious majority installed to ENSURE freedom of thought and belief,
>>>> including non-belief. ;-).
>>>> [See Bukakke for an example of pathological Tilting at Windmills,
>>>> a la Don Quixote! B^]
>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> Science fights the claims of those
..Like Dawkins..
"these Gods came into being by an explicable scientific
progression of incremental evolution."
Darwin's isn't, there is plenty of evidence for Natural Selection..
but Dawkin's "'evolution', of Gods" is pure BULLSHIT! B^D
As Vurgil already admitted:
# Subject: Re: "Why does fasgnadh repost the same atheist lies?"
# From: Vurgil <Vur...@arg.erg>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.atheism.satire,
# alt.agnosticism,alt.religion, alt.philosophy,aus.politics,
# uk.politics.misc,alt.politics.republicans
# Organization: Vurgil
# Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:32:02 -0600
# Message-ID: <Vurgil-123170.22320217032...@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
#
# "Itąs very important to understand that these Gods
# came into being by an explicable scientific progression
# of incremental evolution."
#
# Read it all at and see that Dawkins lies.
#
# http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
> there is no scientific evidence supporting global warming.
You are wrong on that one too! B^D
So stop trying to change the subject, you fraud and liar!
> Atheism does not in general fight religion,
too gutless and cowardly.. only when they have a regime controlling thugs in the secret police and military do they unleash their true nature.. terror, torture and mass murder of over 80,000,000 people
in the atheist tyrannies; USSR, Maoist China and Pol Pots Cambodia!
Dawkins
> gods and such do not exist,
We know, you have already denounced him as a liar!
> they have never been proven
> via objective physical evidence to exist.
And yet you blind atheist believers STILL BELIEVE IN THEM!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAH
Just like the theists, whose belief in God, no less
well evidenced than yours, you deny and abuse them as fools for believing:
> atheism does deny those claims of religions
And then you hypocrites turn around and STEAL their ideas!
De Botton says Steal the PRAXIS of religion, all the good things it does, and Dawkin's simply STEALS THE IDEA OF GOD, claims that It's plausible that Gods exist in the universe and then INVENTS an atheist one!
Hilarious!
>>>> and atheism is not science
> Science is based on not accepting any claims unsupported by objective
> physical evidence.
Like those made by Dawkin's about your atheist Gods!
The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it,
including all the ones who eagerly embraced Dawkin's
even more enthusiastic endorsement of atheist Gods he claims
'came into being'(sic)
From his book Launch:
"A few years ago it struck me that there is a resource
that is a provider of Wisdom, and consolation,
and an ethical framework, and it's rather fascinating and
has dominated the mental landscape of human beings for thousands of years
I'm thinking, of course, of religion.
And the problem is, I'm an atheist."
Yes, that's certainly a problem for any atheist! B^D
or for anyone living in any of the atheist regimes they ran! B^[
"Not just a bit of an atheist, I really am an atheist."
You make it sound like you expect people not to believe atheists!
B^D
"So, this doesn't, in a way, make me an ideal cantidate to write
about religion, but at some point it did strike me that religions
cannot be, in the words of Christopher Hitchins, "the source of
the poison of everything", it's implausible, they've been around
for thousands of years, they reflect the collaborative intelligences
and sensitivities of millions of people and the idea that everything
to do with them is false and wicked just didn't start to stand up to
the scrutiny I applied to it, as I thought more about the subject.
So, that's really the fruit of my thinking"
That religion is really the source of so so many good and useful
contributions to civilisation that Hitchin's malicious lies just
don't stand up.. 8^o and as atheism is devoid of anything
worthwhile itself, it needs to STEAL some of the many great ideas
religion has to offer:
" my new book,Religion for Atheists is a deliberate attempt
to look at a number of areas where I believe that religions
have things to offer for non-believers"
Sure, Truth, Love, Compassion, Justice, Sincerity, Charity,
Mercy, Courage, Integrity..
all the virtues atheism lacks, and doesn't even understand, all
the spiritual values that atheists reject completely...
# From: Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.religion.christian,alt.agnosticism
# Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:38:16 -0800 (PST)
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#
# You can keep your spiritual values.
# I'll piss on them and pass on them.
#
# Budikka
" ..and perhaps believers know about these things already,
but for non-believers I wanted to look at that."
"It strikes me that at the moment the world is really divided into
believers and non-believers and the debate has become at times very
fierce, there are people, some of whom live in North Oxford who
have suggested not only that religion is unbelievable but also
that it's ridiculous, and that people who believe in anything are
simpletons, maniacs .. people who must be lectured at, to remove
the folly of their intellectual errors."
We all know the "person from North Oxford" he's criticising for
...
In article <1VNfr.5335$v14.2...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mo one disputes the historical facts, which disprove for all time the
> atheist hypothesis that they are more rational than the civilisations > influenced by religion.
> So the atheists always return to sterile and pointless arguments about
> THE EXISTENCE of GOD! pffffft!
Actually the majority of atheists do not argue about the existence of any gods, the only point out the lack of any objective physical evidence supporting any such existence.
There is better evidence for the existence of sasquatchs than for any gods.
Fasgnadh (fasgn...@yahoo.com): “So, for those of you who enjoy beginning coffee shop conversations with "The Death of God”. It's time to change the subject! It's time to talk about something else, because it's not happening at all.
People are becoming more religious, not less religious, and religion itself is also evolving…”
Crow "Arsewipe" Raver (quoththera...@nevermore.com): “Wow. You're as long-winded as Fasgnadh, and twice as incoherent.”
Fred Hall (fkh...@databasix.com): “You forgot to mention my name, Doof.”
dolf: “Who is Fasgnadh, that I should regard him? How little he knows.”
Crow "Arsewipe" Raver (quoththera...@nevermore.com): “Another semi-coherent loon from Australia.”
dolf: “A Hoodoo Guru?”
John “Feral Forte Agent Dog” Baker (nu...@bizniz.net): “A bit closer to sane than dolf, though, as difficult as that may be to imagine.”
Australian Skeptics / The Millennium Project [www.ratbags.com/rsoles]: “And you would know about wanking, Dolt.”
The people which sat in darkness saw great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up." [Matthew 4:16]
"And, behold, there arose a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep." [Matthew 8:24]
"And there arose a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full." [Mark 4:37]
> In article<1VNfr.5335$v14.2...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
> fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Mo one disputes the historical facts, which disprove for all time the
>> atheist hypothesis that they are more rational than the civilisations
>> influenced by religion.
>> So the atheists always return to sterile and pointless arguments about
>> THE EXISTENCE of GOD! pffffft!
> Actually the majority of atheists do not argue about the existence of
> any gods, the only point out the lack of any objective physical evidence
> supporting any such existence.
> There is better evidence for the existence of sasquatchs than for any
> gods.
"And, behold, there was a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it." [Matthew 28:2]
"And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} joy; and did run to bring his disciples word." [Matthew 28:8]
"And cried with a loud {megas-great [G3173]: #87} voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not." [Mark 5:7]
Fasgnadh (fasgn...@yahoo.com): “So, for those of you who enjoy beginning coffee shop conversations with "The Death of God”. It's time to change the subject! It's time to talk about something else, because it's not happening at all.
People are becoming more religious, not less religious, and religion itself is also evolving…”
Crow "Arsewipe" Raver (quoththera...@nevermore.com): “Wow. You're as long-winded as Fasgnadh, and twice as incoherent.”
Fred Hall (fkh...@databasix.com): “You forgot to mention my name, Doof.”
dolf: “Who is Fasgnadh, that I should regard him? How little he knows.”
Crow "Arsewipe" Raver (quoththera...@nevermore.com): “Another semi-coherent loon from Australia.”
dolf: “A Hoodoo Guru?”
John “Feral Forte Agent Dog” Baker (nu...@bizniz.net): “A bit closer to sane than dolf, though, as difficult as that may be to imagine.”
Australian Skeptics / The Millennium Project [www.ratbags.com/rsoles]: “And you would know about wanking, Dolt.”
The people which sat in darkness saw great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up." [Matthew 4:16]
"And, behold, there arose a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep." [Matthew 8:24]
"And there arose a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full." [Mark 4:37]
> In article<1VNfr.5335$v14.2...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
> fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Mo one disputes the historical facts, which disprove for all time the
>> atheist hypothesis that they are more rational than the civilisations
>> influenced by religion.
>> So the atheists always return to sterile and pointless arguments about
>> THE EXISTENCE of GOD! pffffft!
> Actually the majority of atheists do not argue about the existence of
> any gods, the only point out the lack of any objective physical evidence
> supporting any such existence.
> There is better evidence for the existence of sasquatchs than for any
> gods.
Fasgnadh (fasgn...@yahoo.com): “So, for those of you who enjoy beginning coffee shop conversations with "The Death of God”. It's time to change the subject! It's time to talk about something else, because it's not happening at all.
People are becoming more religious, not less religious, and religion itself is also evolving…”
Crow "Arsewipe" Raver (quoththera...@nevermore.com): “Wow. You're as long-winded as Fasgnadh, and twice as incoherent.”
Fred Hall (fkh...@databasix.com): “You forgot to mention my name, Doof.”
dolf: “Who is Fasgnadh, that I should regard him? How little he knows.”
Crow "Arsewipe" Raver (quoththera...@nevermore.com): “Another semi-coherent loon from Australia.”
dolf: “A Hoodoo Guru?”
John “Feral Forte Agent Dog” Baker (nu...@bizniz.net): “A bit closer to sane than dolf, though, as difficult as that may be to imagine.”
Australian Skeptics / The Millennium Project [www.ratbags.com/rsoles]: “And you would know about wanking, Dolt.”
The people which sat in darkness saw great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up." [Matthew 4:16]
"And, behold, there was a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it." [Matthew 28:2]
"And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} joy; and did run to bring his disciples word." [Matthew 28:8]
"And cried with a loud {megas-great [G3173]: #87} voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not." [Mark 5:7]
"And, behold, there arose a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep." [Matthew 8:24]
"And there arose a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full." [Mark 4:37]
"And if a man also strive {athleo-strive [G118]: #266} for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive {athleo-strive [G118]: #266} lawfully." [2Timothy 2:5]
> In article<1VNfr.5335$v14.2...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
> fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Mo one disputes the historical facts, which disprove for all time the
>> atheist hypothesis that they are more rational than the civilisations
>> influenced by religion.
>> So the atheists always return to sterile and pointless arguments about
>> THE EXISTENCE of GOD! pffffft!
> Actually the majority of atheists do not argue about the existence of
> any gods, the only point out the lack of any objective physical evidence
> supporting any such existence.
> There is better evidence for the existence of sasquatchs than for any
> gods.
>Fasgnadh (fasgn...@yahoo.com): “So, for those of you who enjoy beginning >coffee shop conversations with "The Death of God”. It's time to change >the subject! It's time to talk about something else, because it's not >happening at all.
>People are becoming more religious, not less religious, and religion >itself is also evolving…”
>Crow "Arsewipe" Raver (quoththera...@nevermore.com): “Wow. You're as >long-winded as Fasgnadh, and twice as incoherent.”
>Fred Hall (fkh...@databasix.com): “You forgot to mention my name, Doof.”
>dolf: “Who is Fasgnadh, that I should regard him? How little he knows.”
>Crow "Arsewipe" Raver (quoththera...@nevermore.com): “Another >semi-coherent loon from Australia.”
>dolf: “A Hoodoo Guru?”
>John “Feral Forte Agent Dog” Baker (nu...@bizniz.net): “A bit closer to >sane than dolf, though, as difficult as that may be to imagine.”
>Australian Skeptics / The Millennium Project [www.ratbags.com/rsoles]: >“And you would know about wanking, Dolt.”
>The people which sat in darkness saw great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} >light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is >sprung up." [Matthew 4:16]
>"And, behold, there was a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} earthquake: >for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled >back the stone from the door, and sat upon it." [Matthew 28:2]
>"And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great >{megas-great [G3173]: #87} joy; and did run to bring his disciples >word." [Matthew 28:8]
>"And cried with a loud {megas-great [G3173]: #87} voice, and said, What >have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure >thee by God, that thou torment me not." [Mark 5:7]
>"And, behold, there arose a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} tempest in >the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was >asleep." [Matthew 8:24]
>"And there arose a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} storm of wind, and >the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full." [Mark 4:37]
>"And if a man also strive {athleo-strive [G118]: #266} for masteries, >yet is he not crowned, except he strive {athleo-strive [G118]: #266} >lawfully." [2Timothy 2:5]
>>> Mo one disputes the historical facts, which disprove for all time the
>>> atheist hypothesis that they are more rational than the civilisations
>>> influenced by religion.
>>> So the atheists always return to sterile and pointless arguments about
>>> THE EXISTENCE of GOD! pffffft!
>> Actually the majority of atheists do not argue about the existence of
>> any gods, the only point out the lack of any objective physical evidence
>> supporting any such existence.
>> There is better evidence for the existence of sasquatchs than for any
>> gods.
--
Science flew man to the moon
Religion flew man into buildings...
#8, #50, #5, #3, #20, #1 = phero (G5342): 1) to carry; 1a) to carry some burden; 1a1) to bear with one's self; 1b) to move by bearing; move or, to be conveyed or borne, with the suggestion of force or speed; 1b1) of persons borne in a ship over the sea; 1b2) of a gust of wind, to rush; 1b3) of the mind, to be moved inwardly, prompted; 1c) to bear up i.e. uphold (keep from falling); 1c1) of Christ, the preserver of the universe; 2) to bear, i.e. endure, to endure the rigour of a thing, to bear patiently one's conduct, or spare one (abstain from punishing or destroying); 3) to bring, bring to, bring forward; 3a) to move to, apply; 3b) to bring in by announcing, to announce; 3c) to bear i.e. bring forth, produce; to bring forward in a speech; 3d) to lead, conduct;
Wasn't there an avalanche in Pakistan?
Ships and boats having problems at sea?
Fasgnadh (fasgn...@yahoo.com): “So, for those of you who enjoy beginning coffee shop conversations with "The Death of God”. It's time to change the subject! It's time to talk about something else, because it's not happening at all.
People are becoming more religious, not less religious, and religion itself is also evolving…”
Crow "Arsewipe" Raver (quoththera...@nevermore.com): “Wow. You're as long-winded as Fasgnadh, and twice as incoherent.”
Fred Hall (fkh...@databasix.com): “You forgot to mention my name, Doof.”
dolf: “Who is Fasgnadh, that I should regard him? How little he knows.”
Crow "Arsewipe" Raver (quoththera...@nevermore.com): “Another semi-coherent loon from Australia.”
dolf: “A Hoodoo Guru?”
John “Feral Forte Agent Dog” Baker (nu...@bizniz.net): “A bit closer to sane than dolf, though, as difficult as that may be to imagine.”
Australian Skeptics / The Millennium Project [www.ratbags.com/rsoles]: “And you would know about wanking, Dolt.”
The people which sat in darkness saw great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up." [Matthew 4:16]
"And, behold, there was a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it." [Matthew 28:2]
"And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} joy; and did run to bring his disciples word." [Matthew 28:8]
"And cried with a loud {megas-great [G3173]: #87} voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not." [Mark 5:7]
"And, behold, there arose a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep." [Matthew 8:24]
"And there arose a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full." [Mark 4:37]
"And if a man also strive {athleo-strive [G118]: #266} for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive {athleo-strive [G118]: #266} lawfully." [2Timothy 2:5]
> In article<1VNfr.5335$v14.2...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
> fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Mo one disputes the historical facts, which disprove for all time the
>> atheist hypothesis that they are more rational than the civilisations
>> influenced by religion.
>> So the atheists always return to sterile and pointless arguments about
>> THE EXISTENCE of GOD! pffffft!
> Actually the majority of atheists do not argue about the existence of
> any gods, the only point out the lack of any objective physical evidence
> supporting any such existence.
> There is better evidence for the existence of sasquatchs than for any
> gods.
Fred Hall (fkh...@databasix.com): “Sure there is, Dolf. For you to pull another fake aids troll.”
J. “Spooks” Waldby (wichitajayha...@msn.com): “Some putos were in the laundry hall and they were talking about how some chick saw me pull a gun out of my bag. What they could not get over was how my bag was magenta today. I says to those two guys, "chinga su dos a tu puta madre." (Literally: “Fuck your two whore mothers”; It is a Mexican slang phrase meaning: “You were birthed from your father's two ass cheeks") then they saluted me and stepped into line behind the hund[r]ed [of] other putos who were carefully walking behind me.
I raised up my arms with the hands p[o]inted away from my head and donned my grey rebel jacket and hood and I says to the sphinx step aside puto because I was the sphinx and it was my mirror image. Then I says to quinn who has taken to doing construction work in an orange jacket with his long grey beard I says to him quinn I liked you except when you are needy but now you are a ghost on the rocks without a tinge of regret on PBS Sesame Stre[e]t.
You have boys like fifteen as your new slavedriver and they like to slap you twice with their left hand on your left cheek after smoking meth in the [h]allway.
naaaah i just fucked yer mom. heh.”
dolf: “Not as well as I fucked you over--[the above] is a gateway to eternity which is closed to you... (if one node is correct--the whole mind of God is).
I bought a new (redback) yard broom to commemorate the recent US invasion of Australia’s Northern Territory on 4 April 2012 and went to the laundry with a blue (Potts Point) bag to wash my lamb’s wool bed mattress cover.
Een huisvrouw's werk is nooit gedaan - maar ritueel maakt je vrij!”
Waarom ga je niet af neuken van posten hier, jij stomme Australische idioot? [Literally: Why don’t you fuck off from posting here, you stupid idiot Australian?]
Ga seks hebben met jezelf. [Literally: Go have sex with yourself.]”
dolf: “Voodoo Hoodoo to you too!”
#1, #30, #5, #50, #1 = 'elahh (H426): 1) god, God; 1a) god, heathen deity; 1b) God (of Israel);
#10, #2, #70, #5 = be`a' (H1156): 1) to ask, seek, request, desire, pray, make petition; 1a) (P'al); 1a1) to ask, request; 1a2) to seek (for favour);
#3, #30, #3, #30, #6, #5, #10 = galgal (H1535): 1) wheel;
#6, #5, #10, #30, #30, #6 = yalal (H3213): 1) (Hiphil) to howl, wail, make a howling;
#6, #8, #30, #8, #30, #5 = chalchalah (H2479): 1) pain, trembling, terror, writhing, anguish;
#8, #50, #5, #3, #20, #1 = phero (G5342): 1) to carry; 1a) to carry some burden; 1a1) to bear with one's self; 1b) to move by bearing; move or, to be conveyed or borne, with the suggestion of force or speed; 1b1) of persons borne in a ship over the sea; 1b2) of a gust of wind, to rush; 1b3) of the mind, to be moved inwardly, prompted; 1c) to bear up i.e. uphold (keep from falling); 1c1) of Christ, the preserver of the universe; 2) to bear, i.e. endure, to endure the rigour of a thing, to bear patiently one's conduct, or spare one (abstain from punishing or destroying); 3) to bring, bring to, bring forward; 3a) to move to, apply; 3b) to bring in by announcing, to announce; 3c) to bear i.e. bring forth, produce; to bring forward in a speech; 3d) to lead, conduct;
#8, #10, #4, #5, #10, #50 = eido (G1492): 1) to see; 1a) to perceive with the eyes; 1b) to perceive by any of the senses; 1c) to perceive, notice, discern, discover; 1d) to see; 1d1) i.e. to turn the eyes, the mind, the attention to anything; 1d2) to pay attention, observe; 1d3) to see about something; 1d31) i.e. to ascertain what must be done about it; 1d4) to inspect, examine; 1d5) to look at, behold; 1e) to experience any state or condition; 1f) to see i.e. have an interview with, to visit; 2) to know; 2a) to know of anything; 2b) to know, i.e. get knowledge of, understand, perceive; 2b1) of any fact; 2b2) the force and meaning of something which has definite meaning; 2b3) to know how, to be skilled in; 2c) to have regard for one, cherish, pay attention to [(1Th. 5:12) ;
#4, #5, #9, #8, #50, #1, #10 = deo (G1210): 1) to bind tie, fasten; 1a) to bind, fasten with chains, to throw into chains; 1b) metaph.; 1b1) Satan is said to bind a woman bent together by means of a demon, as his messenger, taking possession of the woman and preventing her from standing upright; 1b2) to bind, put under obligation, of the law, duty etc.; 1b2a) to be bound to one, a wife, a husband; 1b3) to forbid, prohibit, declare to be illicit;
J. “Spooks” Waldby (wichitajayha...@msn.com): “You did not fuck me over. My friends do not like it if I pretend to be something I am not. You obviously are not a long time resident of the loaca cloaca you are posting to. I appreciate your input.”
dolf: “I had to tell this chick in front of her mother: “Don’t touch that CD ROM [which contains this document] because it will bring death to someone--she didn’t so much as flinch.”
Fred Hall (fkh...@databasix.com): “Flattery will get you nowhere.”
dolf: “How’s the testicles?”
Fenced In World (GRINDR) 19 yo: “Fine thx”
dolf: “Good to hear.
Knock knock!”
Fenced In World (GRINDR) 19 yo: “I don’t play games.”
dolf: “It’s pleasant talk boy--so when you fuck remember what I said.”
Fenced In World (GRINDR) 19 yo: “What”
Wasn't there an avalanche in Pakistan?
Ships and boats having problems at sea?
Fasgnadh (fasgn...@yahoo.com): “So, for those of you who enjoy beginning coffee shop conversations with "The Death of God”. It's time to change the subject! It's time to talk about something else, because it's not happening at all.
People are becoming more religious, not less religious, and religion itself is also evolving…”
Crow "Arsewipe" Raver (quoththera...@nevermore.com): “Wow. You're as long-winded as Fasgnadh, and twice as incoherent.”
Fred Hall (fkh...@databasix.com): “You forgot to mention my name, Doof.”
dolf: “Who is Fasgnadh, that I should regard him? How little he knows.”
Crow "Arsewipe" Raver (quoththera...@nevermore.com): “Another semi-coherent loon from Australia.”
dolf: “A Hoodoo Guru?”
John “Feral Forte Agent Dog” Baker (nu...@bizniz.net): “A bit closer to sane than dolf, though, as difficult as that may be to imagine.”
Australian Skeptics / The Millennium Project [www.ratbags.com/rsoles]: “And you would know about wanking, Dolt.”
The people which sat in darkness saw great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up." [Matthew 4:16]
"And, behold, there was a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it." [Matthew 28:2]
"And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} joy; and did run to bring his disciples word." [Matthew 28:8]
"And cried with a loud {megas-great [G3173]: #87} voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not." [Mark 5:7]
"And, behold, there arose a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep." [Matthew 8:24]
"And there arose a great {megas-great [G3173]: #87} storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full." [Mark 4:37]
"And if a man also strive {athleo-strive [G118]: #266} for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive {athleo-strive [G118]: #266} lawfully." [2Timothy 2:5]
> In article<1VNfr.5335$v14.2...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
> fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Mo one disputes the historical facts, which disprove for all time the
>> atheist hypothesis that they are more rational than the civilisations
>> influenced by religion.
>> So the atheists always return to sterile and pointless arguments about
>> THE EXISTENCE of GOD! pffffft!
>>> On 1/04/2012 8:46 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> On 23/02/2012 4:23 PM, microm2...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> It is common sense that science ought not be fighting innocent
>>>>> people's beliefs.
>>>> Science does not fight religion, atheism does,
>> > Stop right there. "Atheism" doesn't do anything.
>> Bullshit you lying atheist stooge, you have ALREADY confessed
>> the REALITY of atheist states, and they slaughtered MILLIONS: 8^o
>> # From: raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir
>> # and Kelsey Bjarnyard? B^D
>> # Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
>> # Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7g4tep9k42rdjlg...@4ax.com>
>> #
>> #
>> # > raven1 wrote:
>> # >
>> # >> Even under officially atheistic regimes such as Stalin's,
>> Every atheist regime in history has been a totalitarian tyranny
>> torturing, terrorising and killing over 80,000,000 people in a
>> brief period of seven decades before they CATASTROPHICALLY
>> collapsed and religious freedoms were restored!
>> How asinine do lying atheists think people are:
>> "Nazism doesn't do anything, Nazis do" pfffft!
>> Atheists, acting together, implement atheist suppression of religion and
>> persecution of believers.. they did so in EVERY ATHEIST
>> STATE EVER TO EXIST!!!!
>> Like Nazis, THEY WILL NEVER BE GIVEN ANOTHER SHOT AT IT! B^[
>> Game, Set, ..MATCH! B^]
>> > Most atheists, BTW, would be happy to ignore religion as
>> > long as it isn't shoved in our faces.
>> What complete bullshit, atheists have the SAME rights and freedoms
>> as theists in the modern, free, open, tolerant, progressive secular
>> democracies created, in EVERY INSTANCE, by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS
>> societies.. it is in the ATHEIST TYRANNIES where theists have
>> not just the atheist attitudes and beliefs but the Black Boot ot
>> terror, torture and mass murder, 'shoved in their face"
>> All you wining little atheists bitches have to moan about endlessly
>> in alt.atheism is having friends relatives and the wider society
>> celebrate Christmas, which you rabid Dogs PISS ON every year and
>> while you HYPOCRITES whine if a few fundies 'threaten'(sic) you with
>> with an afterlife (which you don't believe in) in Hell (which you
>> don't believe in) , while your violent, psychopathic hate filled inciter
>> of slaughter, Warlord(sic) Steve makes DEATH THREATS: 8^o
>> # From: Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
>> # Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1e4jbmlsqebu9j9...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
>> #
>> # We kill theists and shit down their throats
>> #
>> # Warlord Steve
>> # BAAWA
>> "How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
>> - Lenin, 1st Atheist State leader, Militant Atheist role model.
>> Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE of every
>> Muslim man woman and child, just for believing in something
>> the Atheist thugs want to prohibit again, freedom of thought and belief;
>> # From: Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
>> # Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
>> # Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv57fjcg60tufoa4...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
>> #
>> # On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
>> # <blondes_gaulloi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> #
>> # >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
>> #
>> # It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
>> # The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
>> #
>> # Warlord Steve
>> # BAAWA
>> That is no Idle threat, as the slaughter at Oikos University, a
>> religious college offering studies in theology, music, and nursing
>> and the PREVIOUS atheist mass murders in EVERY atheist regime in history
>> PROVES:
>> # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004 >> #
>> # "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
>> # by a government, typically by active suppression of
>> # religious freedom and practice."
>> # - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
>> # Characteristics and Consequences,
>> # David Kowalewski,
>> # Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
>> #
>> #
>> # "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia’s Buddhist religion:
>> # monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
>> # Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
>> # other religious sentiments were often killed.
>> # ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
>> # and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
>> # and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
>> # starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
>> # prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
>> # instead of the family.
>> #
>> # About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
>> # were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot’s regime."
>> # - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html >> #
>> # The Cambodian Genocide:
>> http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millo...
>> #
>> # "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
>> # regarded by the regime as social parasites,
>> # were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
>> # Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
>> # destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
>> # Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
>> # rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
>> # or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
>> # were often killed.
>> #
>> # The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
>> # persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
>> # Phnom Penh was completely razed.
>> #
>> # The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
>> # regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
>> # Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
>> # - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm >> #
>> # "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
>> # because of their religion."
>> #
>> http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/CANDEMIELDA/44camboyano.jpg
>> #
>> #
>> # "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
>> # - Daniel Peris,
>> # "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
>> # Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
>> #
>> #
>> # "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
>> # countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
>> # Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
>> # Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
>> # promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
>> # - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
>> # Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
>> #
>> # In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
>> # intrinsic part of communist ideology.
>> That is just a tiny part of the slaughters carried out by atheists,
>> running atheist states in the name of atheism.. and the ONLY
>> excuse these disgusting apologists for atheist crimes against humanity
>> is the "No True Atheist Fallacy"!!!!!!!!
>> What filthy moral defectives they are!
>> # The No True Atheist(Scotsman) Fallacy
>> #
>> # "Imagine Hamish McDonald, a Scotsman, sitting down with
>> # his Glasgow Morning Herald and seeing an article about
>> # how the "Brighton Sex Maniac Strikes Again." Hamish is
>> # shocked and declares that "No Scotsman would do such
>> # a thing." The next day he sits down to read his Glasgow
>> # Morning Herald again and this time finds an article about
>> # an Aberdeen man whose brutal actions make the Brighton
>> # sex maniac seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that
>> # Hamish was wrong in his opinion but is he going to admit this?
>> # Not likely. This time he says, "No true Scotsman would do
>> # such a thing."
>> # —Antony Flew, Thinking About Thinking
>> #
>> # "Imagine Hashish McRavin1, an Atheist, sitting down with
>> # his Godless Morning Pravda and seeing an article about
>> # how the "Al Qaida terrorist Strikes Again."
>> # Hashish is shocked and declares that "No Atheist would
>> # do such a thing." The next day he sits down to read his
>> # Godless Morning Pravda again and this time finds an
>> # article about an Atheist State whose brutal actions
>> # terrorising torturing and killing millions make the AlQaida
>> # terrorist seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that
>> # McRavin1 was wrong in his opinion but is he going to admit this?
>> # Not likely. This time he says,
>> # "No true Atheist would do such a thing."
>> — Fasgnadh, Thinking About Atheist lack of Thinking
>> Just for the historical record, (you know, the EVIDENCE supplied
>> by REALITY, not the IMAGINATION of these atheist LIARS), there
>> has never been an atheist state that was a secular democracy.
>> EVERY atheist state has been a totalitarian tyranny.
>> Raven1 is on record admitting (after I presented incontrovertible PROOF)
>> the reality of atheist states;
> On 17/04/2012 7:53 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> On 3/04/2012 8:47 AM, Fred Hall wrote:
>>> On 3/04/2012 8:18 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> raven1 contradicts his latest LIE by debating me!!! (Poorly! ;-):
>>>> "And here's the *other* reason why no one will debate Fasgnadh..."
>>>> Atheist 'arguments' are nothing but LIES and ad hom abuse! B^p
>>>> They stop debating me when I point that out, in detail,
>>>> and they Snip and RUN AWAY! B^]
>> > Because you are
>> The dominant Alpha Male. B^]
>>>>> On 1/04/2012 8:46 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/02/2012 4:23 PM, microm2...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> It is common sense that science ought not be fighting innocent
>>>>>>> people's beliefs.
>>>>>> Science does not fight religion, atheism does,
>>>> > Stop right there. "Atheism" doesn't do anything.
>>>> Bullshit you lying atheist stooge, you have ALREADY confessed
>>>> the REALITY of atheist states, and they slaughtered MILLIONS: 8^o
>>>> # From: raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com>
>>>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>>>> # Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir
>>>> # and Kelsey Bjarnyard? B^D
>>>> # Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
>>>> # Message-ID: <87ttk498t9sueojr7g4tep9k42rdjlg...@4ax.com>
>>>> #
>>>> #
>>>> # > raven1 wrote:
>>>> # >
>>>> # >> Even under officially atheistic regimes such as Stalin's,
>>>> Every atheist regime in history has been a totalitarian tyranny
>>>> torturing, terrorising and killing over 80,000,000 people in a
>>>> brief period of seven decades before they CATASTROPHICALLY
>>>> collapsed and religious freedoms were restored!
>>>> How asinine do lying atheists think people are:
>>>> "Nazism doesn't do anything, Nazis do" pfffft!
>>>> Atheists, acting together, implement atheist suppression of religion and
>>>> persecution of believers.. they did so in EVERY ATHEIST
>>>> STATE EVER TO EXIST!!!!
>>>> Like Nazis, THEY WILL NEVER BE GIVEN ANOTHER SHOT AT IT! B^[
>>>> Game, Set, ..MATCH! B^]
>>>> > Most atheists, BTW, would be happy to ignore religion as
>>>> > long as it isn't shoved in our faces.
>>>> What complete bullshit, atheists have the SAME rights and freedoms
>>>> as theists in the modern, free, open, tolerant, progressive secular
>>>> democracies created, in EVERY INSTANCE, by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS
>>>> societies.. it is in the ATHEIST TYRANNIES where theists have
>>>> not just the atheist attitudes and beliefs but the Black Boot ot
>>>> terror, torture and mass murder, 'shoved in their face"
>>>> All you wining little atheists bitches have to moan about endlessly
>>>> in alt.atheism is having friends relatives and the wider society
>>>> celebrate Christmas, which you rabid Dogs PISS ON every year and
>>>> while you HYPOCRITES whine if a few fundies 'threaten'(sic) you with
>>>> with an afterlife (which you don't believe in) in Hell (which you
>>>> don't believe in) , while your violent, psychopathic hate filled inciter
>>>> of slaughter, Warlord(sic) Steve makes DEATH THREATS: 8^o
>>>> # From: Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net>
>>>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>>>> # Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
>>>> # Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1e4jbmlsqebu9j9...@4ax.com>
>>>> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
>>>> #
>>>> # We kill theists and shit down their throats
>>>> #
>>>> # Warlord Steve
>>>> # BAAWA
>>>> "How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
>>>> - Lenin, 1st Atheist State leader, Militant Atheist role model.
>>>> Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE of every
>>>> Muslim man woman and child, just for believing in something
>>>> the Atheist thugs want to prohibit again, freedom of thought and belief;
>>>> # From: Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net>
>>>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
>>>> # Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
>>>> # Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv57fjcg60tufoa4...@4ax.com>
>>>> # Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
>>>> #
>>>> # On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
>>>> # <blondes_gaulloi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> #
>>>> # >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
>>>> #
>>>> # It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
>>>> # The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
>>>> #
>>>> # Warlord Steve
>>>> # BAAWA
>>>> That is no Idle threat, as the slaughter at Oikos University, a
>>>> religious college offering studies in theology, music, and nursing
>>>> and the PREVIOUS atheist mass murders in EVERY atheist regime in history
>>>> PROVES:
>>>> # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004 >>>> #
>>>> # "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
>>>> # by a government, typically by active suppression of
>>>> # religious freedom and practice."
>>>> # - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
>>>> # Characteristics and Consequences,
>>>> # David Kowalewski,
>>>> # Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
>>>> #
>>>> #
>>>> # "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia’s Buddhist religion:
>>>> # monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
>>>> # Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
>>>> # other religious sentiments were often killed.
>>>> # ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
>>>> # and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
>>>> # and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
>>>> # starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
>>>> # prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
>>>> # instead of the family.
>>>> #
>>>> # About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
>>>> # were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot’s regime."
>>>> # - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html >>>> #
>>>> # The Cambodian Genocide:
>>>> http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millo...
>>>> #
>>>> # "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
>>>> # regarded by the regime as social parasites,
>>>> # were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
>>>> # Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
>>>> # destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
>>>> # Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
>>>> # rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
>>>> # or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
>>>> # were often killed.
>>>> #
>>>> # The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
>>>> # persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
>>>> # Phnom Penh was completely razed.
>>>> #
>>>> # The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
>>>> # regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
>>>> # Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
>>>> # - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm >>>> #
>>>> # "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
>>>> # because of their religion."
>>>> #
>>>> http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/CANDEMIELDA/44camboyano.jpg
>>>> #
>>>> #
>>>> # "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
>>>> # - Daniel Peris,
>>>> # "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
>>>> # Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
>>>> #
>>>> #
>>>> # "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
>>>> # countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
>>>> # Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
>>>> # Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
>>>> # promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
>>>> # - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
>>>> # Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
>>>> #
>>>> # In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
>>>> # intrinsic part of communist ideology.
>>>> That is just a tiny part of the slaughters carried out by atheists,
>>>> running atheist states in the name of atheism.. and the ONLY
>>>> excuse these disgusting apologists for atheist crimes against humanity
>>>> is the "No True Atheist Fallacy"!!!!!!!!
>>>> What filthy moral defectives they are!
>>>> # The No True Atheist(Scotsman) Fallacy
>>>> #
>>>> # "Imagine Hamish McDonald, a Scotsman, sitting down with
>>>> # his Glasgow Morning Herald and seeing an article about
>>>> # how the "Brighton Sex Maniac Strikes Again." Hamish is
>>>> # shocked and declares that "No Scotsman would do such
>>>> # a thing." The next day he sits down to read his Glasgow
>>>> # Morning Herald again and this time finds an article about
>>>> # an Aberdeen man whose brutal actions make the Brighton
>>>> # sex maniac seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that
>>>> # Hamish was wrong in his opinion but is he going to admit this?
>>>> # Not likely. This time he says, "No true Scotsman would do
>>>> # such a thing."
>>>> # —Antony Flew, Thinking About Thinking
>>>> #
>>>> # "Imagine Hashish McRavin1, an Atheist, sitting down with
>>>> # his Godless Morning Pravda and seeing an article about
>>>> # how the "Al Qaida terrorist Strikes Again."
>>>> # Hashish is shocked and declares that "No Atheist would
>>>> # do such a thing." The next day he sits down to read his
>>>> # Godless Morning Pravda again and this time finds an
>>>> # article about an Atheist State whose brutal actions
>>>> # terrorising torturing and killing millions make the AlQaida
>>>> # terrorist seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that
>>>> # McRavin1 was wrong in his opinion but is he
> >That is the question you should have asked your father:
> >Why are you sooo dumb?
> He'd need to ask his mother who his father is first.
Ha ha! Maybe he'd be better off asking a stork.
-- Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist
in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
-- Carl Sagan
Discussion subject changed to "Atheist SNR hits 1:100 The usual atheist frenzy of ad hom abuse, after they snip the facts and reasoned argument" by fasgnadh
# Message-ID: <pim3p75enrmboqh4ht71kb1t703jm31...@4ax.com>
#
# >> a desperate call for help. : ))
# >
# > Wow. The children are truly terrified of reality.
#
#
# Blah, blah, blah,
# blah, blah, blah... we've heard it all before.
---------
The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it,
including all the ones who eagerly embraced Dawkin's
even more enthusiastic endorsement of atheist Gods he claims
'came into being'(sic)
From his book Launch:
"A few years ago it struck me that there is a resource
that is a provider of Wisdom, and consolation,
and an ethical framework, and it's rather fascinating and
has dominated the mental landscape of human beings for thousands of years
I'm thinking, of course, of religion.
And the problem is, I'm an atheist."
Yes, that's certainly a problem for any atheist! B^D
or for anyone living in any of the atheist regimes they ran! B^[
"Not just a bit of an atheist, I really am an atheist."
You make it sound like you expect people not to believe atheists!
B^D
"So, this doesn't, in a way, make me an ideal cantidate to write
about religion, but at some point it did strike me that religions
cannot be, in the words of Christopher Hitchins, "the source of
the poison of everything", it's implausible, they've been around
for thousands of years, they reflect the collaborative intelligences
and sensitivities of millions of people and the idea that everything
to do with them is false and wicked just didn't start to stand up to
the scrutiny I applied to it, as I thought more about the subject.
So, that's really the fruit of my thinking"
That religion is really the source of so so many good and useful
contributions to civilisation that Hitchin's malicious lies just
don't stand up.. 8^o and as atheism is devoid of anything
worthwhile itself, it needs to STEAL some of the many great ideas
religion has to offer:
" my new book,Religion for Atheists is a deliberate attempt
to look at a number of areas where I believe that religions
have things to offer for non-believers"
Sure, Truth, Love, Compassion, Justice, Sincerity, Charity,
Mercy, Courage, Integrity..
all the virtues atheism lacks, and doesn't even understand, all
the spiritual values that atheists reject completely...
# From: Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.religion.christian,alt.agnosticism
# Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:38:16 -0800 (PST)
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# Budikka
" ..and perhaps believers know about these things already,
but for non-believers I wanted to look at that."
"It strikes me that at the moment the world is really divided into
believers and non-believers and the debate has become at times very
fierce, there are people, some of whom live in North Oxford who
have suggested not only that religion is unbelievable but also
that it's ridiculous, and that people who believe in anything are
simpletons, maniacs .. people who must be lectured at, to remove
the folly of their intellectual errors."
We all know the "person from North Oxford" he's criticising for
being such an arrogant, rabid demagogue with extreme views, is
Richard Dawkins B^]
"That's not really my approach, I think such an approach is sterile,
I don't think one makes progress"
True, Dawkins extreme militancy and all the money spent on Bus
ad lies to proselytise for new atheist converts never worked!
"It doesn't strike me that this is really a productive way
to go forward."
Mate, I have been telling the dimwitted Dawkinite Drones that
for YEARS now! But they are completely blind to reason! B^D
" How do you live a good life outside of a religious structure?
Well that's silly, when the good life you want to emulate
exists WITHIN that moral framework and claims that the SPIRITUAL
values are what brings life to the attempts at self-transformation!
It's like you want the Light from a lightbulb, using only
the physical MATTER, not invisible, electromagnetic ENERGY! B^D
It's been tried in EVERY atheist state and failed! B^]
How can these atheist 'thinkers' be so dumb?
"This is THE question facing modern society, and we haven't
necessarily answered it that well."
You atheists have NEVER answered it, B^D but the majority
religious societies that you want to emulate clearly have! B^]
"I think it's a legitimate question and my book is an
attempt to answer that question."
Sure, the hilarious part is that you think atheism needs
to copy religion ...because it HAS the answer already!!!!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!
Just what Dawkins, Bukakke, Vurgil and all the other
ex-atheist believers are trying to do! ;-)
Except, THEY are copying the BELIEFs in Supernatural Beings,
i.e. they are FABRICATING GODS to WORSHIP! (Just
like every atheist tyranny tried to do with political cultism ;-)
Whereas De Botton wants to steal the PRAXIS of religion: B^D
"My starting point is to say that we should learn to STEAL from
religions."
Priceless! The starting point for Atheist 'philosophy' is
that having no ideas of their own the unoriginal atheists
need to pinch the ideas of the, more successful, religious!
"you know some people have accused me of advocating a
'pick and mix'approach to religions, and I say you know what?
you're absolutely right, that's completely what I'm doing,
a pick and mix approach.
Some people have said 'religion's are not a buffet, from which
you can go round choosing the best bits', and my answer is yes they are.
And that's precidsely what I'm doing. So i've taken my plate,
and I've gone round the different faiths, and I've done precisely that."
- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012
Nothing worth repeating, in fact, and as usual, nothing worth posting in the first place.
If religionist freaks like fasgnadh the fulminating faggot find atheism so irrelevant, why do they keep posting to atheist newsgroups with such great frequency and at such great length?
The post to which I am replying was posted to 9 newsgroups, from which list I have removed 4 of the more irrelevant.
Discussion subject changed to "Atheist's righteousness hits 100 followed by he usual fasgnadh frenzy of ad hom abuse, after he snips the facts and reasoned argument" by Uirgil
