Multiculturalism is Inevitable

[Wordsmith]

Why? Most people are of mixed heritage. Hardly anyone is "pure".

W : )

[Turtoni]

> Why? Most people are already of mixed philosophy. Hardly anyone is
> "hardcore".

[tooly]

"Wordsmith" <word...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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> Why? Most people are of mixed heritage. Hardly anyone is "pure".
>
>
> W : )
>

Multiculturism is a social expediency, IMHO. Demographics and migrations
gave rise to the concept in our universities to become popular sometime
along in the 1980's...and was predicted as early as Jimmy Carter's admin in
published studies. It was, and remains, a liberal interpretation of, as
wordsmith argues, an inevitable outcome. It's antithesis, remains
nationalism.

Though Wordsmith may have a point, I argue that human achievement is
greatest...that is, the 'gestaltive energies derived' for creating,
building, and discoverying, remains tied into our sense of 'group
belonging', which is at it's greatest potential at that level where national
identity is defined in our psyches. But that, admittedly, has little to do
with government, and more to do with the historical attachment that one has
with their ancestry. But, this is a counter argument why multiculturism
was, in fact, only an intellectual expediency, and pushes a society 'apart'
in the long run...even perhaps to fail. We may, for example, in France only
be seeing the surficial beginnings of a much deeper problem relating to
multiculturism as it has thus far evolved. Whatever else can be said, I
don't think many can argue that Christianity (and the western state of mind)
and Islam can co-exist in the same proximity and that 'tranquility' will
prevail. But, that is only one category among many, that leads us to the
Blade Runner state of social chaos that multiculturism seems to promise in
our future.

Multiculturism also plays into corporatism...where national interests
becomes circumvented by global economic pressures. Given time, there will
be no national allegiance...and humankind will be existing essentially to
serve whatever corportation owns their job. The deeper impetus behind the
political ploys for which multiculturism is being driven, is in fact that
economic globalization...or more specific, FREE TRADE under the auspices of
Ricardian Capitalism [comparative advantage]. New immigration in the
western world is essentially a world movement whereupon 'cheap labor' (under
FREE TRADE policy) is being moved into high capital western areas...which
tends to be third world and very disparate culturally [ergo, the great
Muslim migration into traditionally Christian Europe, and the mass migration
of unassimalitve and often illegal Mexican cheap labor into America]. It
does not take a rocket scientist to understand the very deeply problematic
social conditions that are arising for these developments.

I argue that the world is entering another dark age...this time not of
reason, nor of science...but of spirit [or whatever you philosophy types
would term the equivalent these days...and do you see the problem?]. In
other words, multiculturism is demoralizing the world. I think
multiculturism only promises social upheaval at some future date. But as
Turtoni says, I could be wrong [usually I am wrong].

[minus]

And even they couldn't be sure.

[minus]

monoculturalism - if there is such a thing anywhere, maybe the Amish -
only promises social upheaval. Hard and incontrovertible group
identity. Us and them. Wars between clearly idenfied groups. Ah,
well, Western History. And the other ones. We humans seem to have
managed to have strife and war and hatred before multiculturalism
became a buzzword.

But let's blame it on multiculturalism. Let's say that trying to
accept as much as possible, trying to find value and interest in
diverse fashion, music, modes of being, let's say that is the roots of
current problems.

Sure, it gets taken to far and sometimes behavior like cliterodectomies
get excused in the outer reaches of moral relativism.

But the problems in France are not caused by multiculturalism.
Refugees come to a foreign country. They are marginalized both by
their own group identification and desire to live with their own kind
and by their poverty and by racism and 'French' people's desire to only
hang out with and live near 'their own kind' and give them jobs etc.
These marginalized people, poor and outside the economy, further
squeezed by globalization's recduction of job ops. as factories and now
white collar jobs slide eastward, get pissed off and riot. It is
natural for some people who get squeezed more and more to pop. This
does not mean they have no responsibility for their situation. But it
sure ain't multiculturalism's fault. Quite the opposite.

Different ethnic and religious and cultural groups avoided eachother in
France, socially, residentially, economically. There was a foundation
of distrust and assumptions of cultural weakness and 'strangeness' on
both sides. The French think their culture is the best - hell they
think the English are disgusting and Americans are boorish clods who
should not be a world power. Everybody thinks everybody else is an
infidel.

This is not multiculturalism.

[tooly]

"tooly" <rd...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Where's Publius? I figured he'd chime in by now. Ha...all in good fun.

Here's a question. Who are the winners under new-world multiculturism? Who
are the losers?
That, I think, would tell us a great deal about who is arguing what [in
general].

[tooly]

"minus" <underwear...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> monoculturalism - if there is such a thing anywhere, maybe the Amish -
> only promises social upheaval. Hard and incontrovertible group
> identity. Us and them. Wars between clearly idenfied groups. Ah,
> well, Western History. And the other ones. We humans seem to have
> managed to have strife and war and hatred before multiculturalism
> became a buzzword.
>
> But let's blame it on multiculturalism. Let's say that trying to
> accept as much as possible, trying to find value and interest in
> diverse fashion, music, modes of being, let's say that is the roots of
> current problems.

But you are not describing multiculturism as being forced upon the world.
One pot where it's all being thrown together is what is being forced upon
the world. Like mixing colors on a palette, multiculturism's true course is
to make a single great 'mud' color...and call it the 'rainbow'. It just
makes a single society quite schizophrenic...balkanized and splintered. You
can't for example, have half the society celebrating a past hero, while the
other half is cursing that same hero [refer to Christopher Columbus]. You
can't have half the society villifying an ancestoral history while the other
half cherishes it. It's lunacy to think a new immigration that 'hates' that
ancestry will work to assimilate, to 'belong'. What will happen is that
immigration so disparate will work to redefine the culture in 'pockets' of
it's own domain...essentially extending it's own culture in a new type of
'conquest' [by attrition of numbers, as it forces the old society out].

It's all quite common sense...but it seems the world has lost such simple
sightedness. Or...is it political. Being swayed by a competitor to put
down defenses seems like perhaps a better understanding of what's going on.
If you got a better house, maybe the guy down the way who doesn't like his
own house, is trying to make you 'give yours' to him??

>
> Sure, it gets taken to far and sometimes behavior like cliterodectomies
> get excused in the outer reaches of moral relativism.
>
> But the problems in France are not caused by multiculturalism.
> Refugees come to a foreign country. They are marginalized both by
> their own group identification and desire to live with their own kind
> and by their poverty and by racism and 'French' people's desire to only
> hang out with and live near 'their own kind' and give them jobs etc.
> These marginalized people, poor and outside the economy, further
> squeezed by globalization's recduction of job ops. as factories and now
> white collar jobs slide eastward, get pissed off and riot. It is
> natural for some people who get squeezed more and more to pop. This
> does not mean they have no responsibility for their situation. But it
> sure ain't multiculturalism's fault. Quite the opposite.
>
> Different ethnic and religious and cultural groups avoided eachother in
> France, socially, residentially, economically. There was a foundation
> of distrust and assumptions of cultural weakness and 'strangeness' on
> both sides. The French think their culture is the best - hell they
> think the English are disgusting and Americans are boorish clods who
> should not be a world power. Everybody thinks everybody else is an
> infidel.
>
> This is not multiculturalism.
>

Because multiculturism is essentially a misnomer...a lie. Natural struggle
continues as it always has, only under multiculturism, proximity is all in a
single territory making for horrible existence on an individual basis. No
one really wins...except maybe the corporate hounds who profit by selling
out middles classes around the world. Oh yea...the lowest common
denominators rise to the top...the opportunists, the pornographers, the fast
eddy snake oil salesmen, the sharleton manipulators of the law...yea, these
types all prosper, for 'blade runner' worlds have no idealism, nothing
redemptive save for a few sensual pleasures which the materialist pushers
might prosper from on a 'hooked' consumer society. Intellectualism born of
'super rationalism' like a club footed off-kilter monster that's lost it's
way, is the grand fare that leads the way and Beezlebub never had it so
good.

You cannot PATRONIZE all ways of life, all modes of living, all cultural
values, all idiosynchratic traits of all living peoples across the world,
especially in the same place, without utterly trashing your own way of life,
your own values, and your own right of way in the world. Multiculturism is
the convenience of those who 'believe' in nothing, who no longer feel their
own way of life is valid, but just eggshell dreams of the egomaniacal.

But some of us exist a bit closer to our forebears [refering to in the
west], who still understand something of their strength, their qualities,
their sheer will to create something 'better' as time went, and have no wish
to give up upon the hopes found in their visions. For one thing, a certain
'sacrifice' has already been made through time, built upon our ancestor's
blood, sweat, and tears...and war and misery that we in our modern world of
material luxury could never begin to fathom.

A 'blade runner' world is where people have no vision of a hopeful future,
no greater sense of self save for the simple struggles of surviving the
gauntlet of human difference that will surround us all.
Diversity my foot. That was a term of convenience by intellectuals who saw
what was coming and didn't have the balls to do anything about it...so they
just 'rationalized' it all away, as they still do. In a world where
everyone can be anything, the reality of it is that 'no one is
anything'...for all the standards will be torn down, leaving us in sea of
medocrity...and probably much worse.

Well, the world won't buy it forever, as perhaps reinforced by the rejection
of the EU constitution as of late.

But the world remains in deep doodoo I'm afraid, because the elites have
decided for us that this is pretty much a done deal. The corporations want
it...their political lackeys want it, and our universities only teach it.
But if I'm anywhere near the normal human being 'living' it, I reject
multiculturism utterly and completely, for the 'experience' is simply a
'living hell'. My ancestors demand that I reject it...and so do yours.
Nothing of 'worth' can exist in chaos. We just 'survive'...and for thinking
creatures, that's not enough to keep us alive.

Multiculturism is nonsense.

[RyanT]

You can, however, force people of different cultures to at least
interact with each other so they don't end up creating non-sense
stereotypes.

There are "magnet" schools around the country where there is an effort
to racially integrate students of different ethnicities, and these
schools typically perform better than regular ones, and are in high
demand, at least in California.

[Topaz]

On 11 Nov 2005 11:06:24 -0800, "Wordsmith" <word...@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

>Why? Most people are of mixed heritage. Hardly anyone is "pure".
>

The main goal of America is to destroy White civilization by
mixing Whites with other races. Because of this it will get harder
and harder to find White neigborhoods (good neighborhoods) to live in.
We should preserve our race by having a homeland of our own.

Our opponents say it is impossible to have White homeland because
they say we can not determine who is White and who is not. Even though
they can determine this easily enough when they want affirmitive
action, they say that we can not.

It is the same as if they said we can not determine red cars from
cars that are not red. They would say that it is impossible to call a
car red until we have an exact definition of what is red. It would be
reasonable if they pointed out that some cars are borderline and it
would be hard to say if they are red or not. But that is not what they
are saying. They are saying that we can not in any case tell if a car
is red or not.

If a car looks red enough to me then I will call it red. And if
people look White enough to me then I will call them White.

http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com

[minus]

What whites: The Scandanavian whites who as Vikings travelled around
killing other whites from other 'races'. Are the French whites and why
do they hate the English whites so much?
given your politics I assume you think the Germans are whites, but man,
the way they treated the whites in Poland back in WW11.
You are probably stupid enough to blame all white on white violence on
Jews, but let's look closer to home, shall we?
Let's look at White Power groups. They don't get along. They have
power struggles and internecine wars and conflicts over jurisdiction
and leadership. What makes you think the white homeland you create
would have some kind of unity.

And why, when you are out trying to get new members, do you generally
go for people who are easy to manipulate.

You tend to whine about Jewish controlled media manipulating minds.
But what are the minds you go after? Indenpendent, sharp, creative
people? No.

[Topaz]

On 13 Nov 2005 03:01:05 -0800, "minus"
<underwear...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>What whites: The Scandanavian whites who as Vikings travelled around
>killing other whites from other 'races'. Are the French whites and why
>do they hate the English whites so much?
>given your politics I assume you think the Germans are whites, but man,
>the way they treated the whites in Poland back in WW11.
>You are probably stupid enough to blame all white on white violence on
>Jews, but let's look closer to home, shall we?

Other groups have fought each other, in Africa, and the Indians in
America etc. The anti-White bias who have is caused by the Jews
controlling your media and your mind.

The Jews Are Our Misfortune
By Dr. William Pierce

If you've been listening to many of my broadcasts you will know that
the issue I talk about most often is that of media control. In nearly
every broadcast I have pointed out that the people who control the
mass media of news and entertainment are able to manipulate the
opinions and attitudes of about 95 per cent of the population. I have
pointed out
that the media bosses do this manipulation deliberately and in
collusion with one another, taking advantage of the compelling need
most people have to conform their ideas and their behavior to a
perceived norm.

The media bosses use their control over the mass media of
entertainment -- and to a lesser extent over the news media -- to
create an artificial norm that is presented to the public through
television, motion pictures, advertising, and other media, and this
artificial norm is the one perceived as real by most of the public.
Through their control of public opinion the media bosses also control
the democratic political process and governmental policy in a way that
is advantageous to them and disadvantageous to the White public. And
these media bosses are overwhelmingly Jews.

That has been the message I have presented over and over again in many
of these broadcasts. I have talked about different facets of Jewish
media control and have presented different specifics, different
details, in various broadcasts. I've discussed a number of different
Hollywood films or television shows as specific examples of the way in
which the Jews use their media control to brainwash the public, to
promote
fashions and styles and behavior that are harmful to our people but
that advance the long-term schemes of the Jews to further dominate and
exploit our society.

(Some of this may be outdated today, but it still explains why things
are the way they are)

I've talked about specific Jews who control various segments of the
mass media, and I've pointed out specific instances of the destructive
way in which they use their control. I've talked about the Jewish
media boss Sumner Redstone and his control of MTV and CBS and the
Hollywood film studio Paramount Pictures. I've talked about the Jewish
media boss Michael Eisner and his control of the Disney Company and
ABC. I've talked about the Jewish media boss Gerald Levin and his
control of Time Warner and CNN. I've talked about the Jewish media
boss Edgar Bronfman and his control of the largest segment of the
popular music industry and Universal Studios in Hollywood. And I've
talked about dozens of other Jewish media bosses and the media they
control and the specific ways in
which they use those media. In particular, during the past few months
I've talked about several recent Hollywood films which deliberately
target teenaged White girls and brainwash them with the notion that it
is fashionable for them to have sex with Black males.

And of course, I've talked about the Jewish control of the news media
as well as the entertainment media. In a way similar to their use of
the entertainment media to set popular fashions, the Jewish media
bosses distort and censor the news in order to give the public a
distorted picture of what is happening in the world. I've given
several very
specific examples of this Jewish management of the news in recent
months.

I've talked about the total blackout at the national level of the news
of the atrocious rape and massacre of Whites in Wichita, Kansas, by
Blacks last December, and I've talked about the almost total
suppression of the news of the Black racial attacks on Whites in
Seattle in the Mardi Gras riot at the end of February this year. I
also talked about
the downplaying of the racial aspects of the Black rioting in
Cincinnati in April of this year, about the failure of the news media
outside the immediate Cincinnati area to mention the deliberate
targeting of Whites, especially White women, by the Black rioters. And
I described the gross distortions in the news coverage of the racial
politics in York,
Pennsylvania, that led to the current White mayor of York being
charged in May with the killing of a Black during a Black race riot in
York 32 years ago.

I have pointed out repeatedly how all of this suppression of the news
and distortion of the news is aimed at creating and maintaining a
false picture in the public mind of racial conflict in the United
States. In this false picture Whites always are the aggressors, Blacks
or other non-Whites are the innocent victims, and the root of all
racial conflict
is White racism.

In a number of my broadcasts I've discussed at length why the Jews do
what they do: why they use their media control in such a deceptive and
destructive way, what their motives are. I've also talked about how
they collaborate. I've pointed out that their propaganda policies are
not formulated independently, but that they have a coherent party line
that
they all follow. I've given a number of specific examples of this.
Well, all of these things that I've talked about have not gone
unnoticed by the Jewish media bosses themselves. When people expose
their activities or their scheming they pay attention. In particular,
they have been paying attention to these American Dissident Voices
broadcasts and to the work of my organization, the National Alliance.
They read what's on our Web sites at natvan.com and natall.com and
resistance.com, and they talk about it among themselves. This shows up
pretty clearly in the uniform way in which their media respond to us.
Whether it's the Associated Press or Time magazine or the Washington
Post or a television news commentator anywhere in the United States,
they always use the same
phrasing in talking about us. They always use the word "hate" in
referring to us. They always say that the National Alliance is the
"most dangerous organized hate group" in America, despite the fact
that all we do is disseminate to the public the truth about what
they're doing. That's what they regard as "dangerous" and as "hate."

If you want to see a current indicator of the fact that they do think
about us, go to the Web site promoting Steven Spielberg's new
movie,A.I. There you'll see a parody of a part of the National
Alliance's Web site in the form of a page headed "Who Is the
Anti-Robot Militia?" It's obviously copied, almost word for word, from
the page "Who Is the National Alliance?" on our Web site. It's
difficult for me to understand what they hoped to accomplish with this
parody. Perhaps they believe that it will make people take us less
seriously.

Somewhat less quirky but much more directly deceptive are their
standard smokescreen responses. It used to be that whenever I would
raise the issue of Jewish monopoly control of the mass media of news
and entertainment during an interview or on a call-in program, I would
hear the response from a Jew or an apologist for the Jews: "What about
Ted
Turner? He's not a Jew," as if that negated everything I had said. Of
course, that response was used before Ted Turner's CNN was taken over
by the very Jewish Time Warner. And now that Ted Turner has been eased
out of all decision-making positions in the cable news network he
built and has been replaced by Jews, one doesn't hear the Ted Turner
response any longer.

The standard responses today, the ones I hear as often as I used to
hear the Ted Turner response, are the "it's the shareholders" and the
"it's the big bankers." Whenever I start naming names -- whenever I
begin talking about the control over the media wielded by Michael
Eisner or Sumner Redstone, for example, a Jew will pop up with the
response:
"Those guys don't control the media. It's the shareholders who control
the media. Eisner and Redstone are just employees. The shareholders
tell them what to do." A variation on this theme is, "Eisner and
Redstone don't own the media. It's the big banks that own all of the
media, and most of the big bankers are Gentiles."

Well, of course, that's not really true, and they know it's not true.
The big Jewish media bosses are mostly quite autonomous. Sumner
Redstone, for example, owns outright two-thirds of the shares in his
media empire. His personal fortune is more than 12 billion dollars,
according to Forbes magazine this month. I'm quite sure he doesn't
check
with any shareholders before he dreams up some new piece of
race-mixing filth for MTV.

As for Gentile bankers telling the Jewish media bosses what kind of
propaganda they must produce for the public, that's total nonsense. I
haven't yet done a study of the investment banking industry to
determine what percentage of Jews and what percentage of Gentiles are
involved in it, but one thing that's certain is that the Gentile
bankers would faint dead away at the thought of telling Jewish media
bosses such as Michael Eisner or the Sulzberger family or the
Newhouses or Sumner Redstone to cut back on the race-mixing
propaganda. Gentile bankers as a class are rich, deracinated capons,
whose only interest is money.

Every Jewish propaganda medium -- CBS or MTV or Time magazine or the
New York Times -- is staffed from top to bottom with Jews, and they
all know what they're doing. They work as a tribe, as a swarm of
termites gnawing at the foundations of our existence. There is total
agreement among the media Jews as to the general thrust of their
propaganda. They may disagree on many of the details -- they may even
compete against each other for a bigger slice of the media pie -- but
all agree on the general goals of degrading and subverting Gentile
civilization, of corrupting Gentile institutions, of mongrelizing our
race. Again, the Jews work as a tribe, and that is the source of their
strength and their success.

Gentile bankers, on the other hand, work only for themselves. They
would not dream of combining and using their financial strength to
protect our people from the Jews. They are terrified of the Jews, of
the media. The more money they have, the more selfish and the more
cowardly they are. The huge difference, the decisive difference,
between the Jews and our people is that they work as a tribe, and we
work as individuals. They
work together, rich Jews and poor Jews, for their common tribal
interests, against us, and until now we have failed to organize
effectively to defend ourselves against them.

Anyway, my point is that their defense against my exposure of their
activities and their power over our government is orchestrated - that
is, they've all gotten together and decided what their defense will be
-- and it's a deliberate lie. As I continue to expose the destructive
activities of the Jewish media bosses, you will continue to hear them
and their apologists respond that they really don't have any power,
that it's the Gentile shareholders and the Gentile bankers who control
the media. A lot of dimwits will believe that lie. A lot of couch
potatoes, a lot of soccer moms, a lot of baseball fans, a lot of
lemmings, will
believe that it's not the Jew Sumner Redstone who deliberately uses
MTV to corrupt White teenagers; instead it's some cabal of Gentile
shareholders and Gentile bankers who tell him what to do, and Redstone
is only an employee who follows their orders.

I think it's time for us to orchestrate our exposure of the Jewish
media. I think it's about time for the public, lemmings and all, to
begin hearing a uniform charge against them, a uniform statement of
our opposition to them. How about this: The Jews are our misfortune.
That's simple, and it's true, and it's easy to remember. Repeat after
me: The
Jews are our misfortune. Let's use that statement. Let's let everyone
hear it. Let's impress it on everyone's consciousness: The Jews are
our misfortune.

Of course, when I say the Jews are our misfortune, I'm not talking
only about the Jewish media bosses. I'm not talking only about the
Jews at the top, such as Sumner Redstone and the Sulzbergers and
Michael Eisner and the others who formulate and direct the propaganda
line against Gentile society; I'm talking about the whole tribe, and I
believe that message comes across in the statement, the Jews are our
misfortune. Let me tell you what the standard lemming response will be
to that statement, the response that they have been taught and will
parrot back.

First, from the religious lemmings it will be something like this:
"Oh, no, the Jews aren't our misfortune, we owe everything to the
Jews. Don't you know that Jesus was a Jew and God was his father? That
makes God a Jew. We must do what the Jews tell us. They are God's
people." I'm sure that argument is embarrassing to some of the more
sophisticated
apologists for the Jews, but many Christian Fundamentalists use it,
and I've heard it often.

From the secular lemmings it will be more like: "Don't you know that
Freud and Einstein and Salk were Jews? We wouldn't have a space
program if it weren't for Einstein. We wouldn't have a cure for polio
if it weren't for Salk. The Jews are our fortune, not our misfortune."
Well, of course, our space program has practically nothing to do with
Einstein or his Jewishness. Gentile thinkers envisioned it and
pioneered both its theoretical basis and its practical development.
The German theoretician, Hermann Oberth, and the Russian, Konstantin
Tsiolkovsky, were two of the Gentiles who independently demonstrated
mathematically the feasibility of space travel in the early years of
the last century. The American rocket pioneer Robert Goddard and the
German Wernher von Braun designed actual rockets and built the
vehicles which were the precursors of today's space ships. Jews didn't
become involved until it became glamorous and profitable. And the
development of a polio vaccine hardly would have missed a beat if
Jonas Salk had gone into the garment business instead of medicine. He
was one of a team, and he got the credit for the work of others as
well as for his own work.

The reasons we hear these silly and groundless claims in the first
place about how much we owe the Jews -- the reasons are Jewish media
control and Jewish tribalism, Jewish support for their own. Freud was
given the enormous buildup he received for his theorizing about anal
personalities and penis envy and the like because he was a Jew, not
because of any genuine merit in his theorizing. Other Jewish writers
recognized him as one of their own and propelled him to a position of
undeserved authority, and his theories ultimately did an enormous
amount of damage to the development of our understanding of psychology
and mental disease. Einstein was a competent mathematical physicist,
but a great deal of the publicity he received was based on the fact
that he was a Jew rather than on the merits of his work. As in the
case of Salk, Jewish publicists gave Einstein credit for the work of
others as well as for his own work.

What we must do is look at the balance sheet. Is the damage done to
our race by Karl Marx and all of his Jewish followers in the communist
movement -- the selective murder of more than 30 million of the best
of our people in Europe during the past century -- offset by whatever
contributions Einstein and Salk and other Jews have made -- even if
they did everything their Jewish boosters claim for them? Certainly,
there have been many other Jews who were competent and creative
engineers and scientists besides Einstein and Salk. Not every clever
Jew became a lawyer or a scriptwriter or a pawn shop owner or a
middleman. Some became chemists or mathematicians or physicists. But
can all of them together make up for the mass murders Lazar Kaganovich
perpetrated
aginst the Ukrainians, for the rapes and murders of German civilians
instigated by Ilya Ehrenburg, for the Eastern European girls still
being forced into sexual slavery on a huge scale today by Israeli
slave dealers?

I think not. And I have not yet put on the balance sheet what the
Jewish masters of America's mass media have done and are doing to us.
What can possibly compensate White Americans for the deliberate,
malevolent corruption of our young people by just one Jewish gangster
like Sumner Redstone and his MTV? The race-mixing, culture-destroying,
hip-hop filth churned out by Sumner Redstone's MTV seven days a week
is the single most destructive influence in American life today. And
of course, Redstone doesn't produce this filth all by himself. He has
thousands of Jews working for him at every level, not only in MTV but
also in CBS and in Paramount Pictures and in all of his other media
properties.

And although MTV, targeting White teenagers as it does, may seem the
most blatantly and maliciously destructive of the Jewish media, it is
hardly much worse than some of the filth being poured into the minds
of the American public by Michael Eisner's Disney empire: especially
by its Miramax films division under the Weinstein brothers. The fact
that much of the entertainment produced by Eisner's Disney Company is
relatively nnocuous does not compensate for the fact that some of it
is pure poison. The poison is being introduced gradually, more and
more each year, and it is having its effect. When the Disney Company
was entirely a Gentile company a few years ago, its output of
ntertainment may sometimes have been excessively bland, but none of it
was poison designed to corrupt White Americans.

And what can possibly compensate on our balance sheet for what the
Jewish news media are doing in their deliberate, calculated distortion
of the picture of the world seen by the American public. It is a
picture which has been designed to confuse White Americans, to
undermine their self-confidence, to induce feelings of racial guilt in
them. Just one example: the systematic suppression of the news of
Black crimes against White people and the exaggeration of the news of
every White crime against non-Whites is not a fluke. It is done
routinely by all of the Jewish news media: by the New York Times, by
the Washington Post, by Time magazine and Newsweek magazine, by CNN
and ABC News and CBS News and NBC News and all the rest. And
interracial crime is just one issue. The relations between the sexes;
immigration; the foreign relations of the United States with the rest
of the world, especially in the Middle East; and a hundred other
important issues are similarly distorted in their portrayal by the
media. This deliberate distortion of the public's view of the world
has done irreparable damage to the American system of government and
to American society. And again: the distortion has been deliberate,
planned, systematic, and intended to do harm to us. No number of funny
Jewish comedians, or successful Jewish entrepreneurs in Silicon Valley
or on Wall Street, or clever Jewish medical researchers can compensate
for this harm.

When we look at the balance sheet the conclusion is clear beyond any
doubt: the Jews are our misfortune. It's way past time for us to
accept this conclusion, to overcome our fears of being labeled
"anti-Semitic" for accepting this conclusion, to brush aside these
fears which have been instilled in us by the propaganda of the mass
media, and then to begin working to improve our fortunes.

>Let's look at White Power groups. They don't get along.

Government agents join for the purpose of causing trouble. This is
well known.

> They have
>power struggles and internecine wars and conflicts over jurisdiction
>and leadership. What makes you think the white homeland you create
>would have some kind of unity.

It's been done. NS Germany

>
>And why, when you are out trying to get new members, do you generally
>go for people who are easy to manipulate.

You are talking nonsense.

>
>You tend to whine about Jewish controlled media manipulating minds.
>But what are the minds you go after? Indenpendent, sharp, creative
>people? No.

You haven't a clue.

[FED UP]

"Like mixing colors on a palette, multiculturism's true course is
to make a single great 'mud' color...and call it the 'rainbow'."

Couldn't have cut through all the bull**** any faster than that.

Good job.

[fluidly unsure]

Are you talking about the French or Anglo (English speeking) model?

The French model has other problems, the ones America worked out years
ago when "seperate but equal" was loosing track.

The Anglo model isn't perfect. Calling it a "rainbow" is definately a
mis-nomer.

But you seem to be bashing the idea of mongrels who aren't the
pure-breed you like. Sorry, but I like it that way. I'm part
Irish/German/Cherokee/Welsh and most of my friends (and all of my best
friends) are from south-east Asia, or the Indian continent.

Using your wordage; I'm proud of being mud!

--
Liquid

[tooly]

"fluidly unsure" <daveR...@THErdksoftwareOBVIOUS.com> wrote in message
news:F0cef.16701$q%.7482@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...

good for you...and you have taken something personal that we should all be
looking at with more objectivity.
No matter your genetic makeup, people need some sense of 'roots'. Even you
must sense some background, some heritage that you feel part of? It is
important to human identity and provides us with meaning and direction in
the world. Otherwise, be become like tumbleweeds drifting aimlessly.

Multiculturism is like having every religion in the world under the same
church roof. That, in the elite's mind, is a 'good thing'...where everyone
is 'getting along', playing nicely like all good children should [that's how
they see us now, the elites...and worse, some see us like they do baboons in
the jungle]. The reality is not that we transpire to be come tolerant of
all religions, but that we lose "significanse to them ALL". We lose
signicanse to all the values, beliefs, traditions....'ways of life' that
made us what we are, that gives us our roots.

We become human Tumbleweeds.

Multiculturism is severing roots to our past...to our ancestors, and their
struggles and visions...
And It's a horrible thing really.

[Topaz]

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 02:49:09 GMT, fluidly unsure
<daveR...@THErdksoftwareOBVIOUS.com> wrote:

>
>Are you talking about the French or Anglo (English speeking) model?
>
>The French model has other problems, the ones America worked out years
>ago when "seperate but equal" was loosing track.
>
>The Anglo model isn't perfect. Calling it a "rainbow" is definately a
>mis-nomer.
>
>But you seem to be bashing the idea of mongrels who aren't the
>pure-breed you like. Sorry, but I like it that way. I'm part
>Irish/German/Cherokee/Welsh and most of my friends (and all of my best
>friends) are from south-east Asia, or the Indian continent.
>
>Using your wordage; I'm proud of being mud!

It's a Wonderful Race

by James Bronson
There once was a college freshman named George who thought he knew it
all. One night over dinner, George got into an argument with his
father. The argument began when the young student tried to explain to
his father that as White people, they should be held accountable for
all the evils that they had inflicted upon non-Whites througout
history. George explained: "Because of European racism, we stole the
Indians' land, we held blacks in slavery, we persecuted the Jews, and
we plundered the environment. We've been oppressive racists for
thousands of years so it's only fair that we pay economic reparations
for all the harm we've done to the world. I'm pleased to see that we
are ending our political and economic domination of the oppressed
peoples."

George's dad was shocked to hear such talk. "Who put such commie-pinko
nonsense into your head, boy? Did one of your sandal-wearing hippie
college professors teach you that?" the father asked.

To which the son replied: "That's the truth dad. My anthropology
professor, Dr.Irving Silverstein, says so. He ought to know. Dr.
Silverstein is a well-respected Ph.D. People of your generation just
don't understand because you were raised in a White supremacist racist
society. That's why I've come to admire Dr. Rev. Martin Luther King as
the greatest man in American history. He stood up to the racists of
your generation. Because of him, my generation of White kids is
completely colorblind."

The father angrily replied: "That's bullshit! I've always been
fair-minded and tolerant of people from all backgrounds and races. I
haven't 'oppressed' anybody, and furthermore there's nothing wrong
with being proud of one's own people, including the European race of
people. Your race is in your blood. It's like an extension of your
biological family and you ought to be proud of your European heritage
and identity, just like every other racial group in America is proud
of its. Why is it OK for them to have a strong sense of racial
identity but it's evil for us Europeans to feel that way?"

The young "intellectual" laughed at his father. "Come on dad, that's
the kind of crap Hitler tried to peddle. Those racist attitudes were
discredited years ago. There's only one race and that's the human
race. Diversity is our greatest strength. Differences in so-called
"race" are as insignificant as differences in belly buttons. And
besides, UN statistics now show that low White birth rates, along with
the fact that we live in an multicultural
society, will mean that Europeans and their ethnocentrist and racist
culture will have died out by the end of the century," young George
said.

Turning red with anger, the father yelled: "You are a walking cliché
you know that boy? And you think it's a good thing that the European
peoples of the world will have faded out and ceased to exist?" Young
George replied; "I think it's great! It will mean the end of racism
and the end of hate. The oppressed peoples of the world would have
been better off if us racist Europeans had never existed to begin
with."

Suddenly there was a blast of cold wind, an explosion, and a huge
smoke cloud. When the smoke had settled, George found himself alone
and lost in a cold open field. An angel named Clarence then appeared
to him and said "Well George, you've got your wish."

George asked: "Where am I? What's going on here? And who are you?"

The angel answered, "George, I'm Clarence the Angel. I was sent here
to show you what the world would have been like if Europeans, or
Whites, had never existed. You now live in a world where Europeans
never existed."

"Oh. That's cool. I'll have no problem adapting because there's not a
racist bone in my body. And when I get back to my world, I'll be able
to tell my professor and my friends how great this non-racist world
was. Say, I'm freezing my ass off out here. Where's the nearest
motel?"

"Motel?" replied the angel. "There are no motels here in what was once
called North America. But there are some caves up in those mountains
where you can find shelter."

"Caves? No way man. I want a nice warm bed to sleep in."

"I don't think you understand George. There are no buildings here in
non-white America because the evil Europeans never came here to build
them. Whites never existed, remember? The natives live in tents. Would
you like to go meet some local Indians? Perhaps they'll let you stay
in a tent."

"A tent? But it's 10 degrees outside?...Oh well. It's better than a
cave I suppose. Let's go talk to these Indians...... Wait a second,
are these Indians friendly or hostile?"

"Why, George, that's a racist question to ask. Just because some
Indians were brutal savages who scalped their victims alive, it
doesn't mean they all were" said the angel sarcastically.

"I know that Clarence. And I'm not a racist. I hate racism.
Nonetheless, I'd feel safer if I could have a gun to defend myself if
they turn out to be violent."

"Gun?" replied the angel. "There are no guns for you to defend
yourself with. Firearms were invented by evil Europeans. Though we
could make a spear with those twigs over there."

"That's too much work. Give me a telephone then. I'll call the Indians
to ask if it's OK."

"Telephone"? replied the angel. There are no telephones here.
Alexander Graham Bell was another evil white man, so he never existed.
No Europeans remember?" "Forget it then" replied George. "I'll sleep
in the damn cave."

Upon arriving at the cave, a shivering George asked the angel for a
lighter so that he could light a fire. "A lighter?" replied Clarence.
"There are no lighters here, and no matches. Those are European
gadgets and evil Europeans never existed remember? If you want to get
warm, you need to do like the locals do and start rubbing twigs
together."

"Oh come on man! You mean to tell me these people still rub sticks
together for fire?"

"That's right George. The Indians live exactly as they did before the
evil pilgrims arrived from Europe just a few centuries ago." said the
angel sarcastically.

"I refuse to stay in this cold cave and I damn sure ain't gonna light
a fire with twigs, and I refuse to sleep in a teepee. I'll go to South
America. I can make it in a warmer climate and I'll adapt quickly to
the great Incan civilization I learned about at college. Since
European racists like Columbus, Cortez and Pizzaro never existed, the
Incans will still be there.
... I need a car"

"Car?" replied the angel. "There are no cars here. Daimler and Benz,
the evil German inventors of the internal combustion engine, were
never born..nor was Henry Ford. There are no paved roads either. This
is a world without evil Europeans remember?"

"No cars! Oh. I'll just have to take a train."

"There are no trains in this world either George. Evil Europeans
weren't here to build locomotive engines or to discover the many uses
of coal, oil and gas, or to build trains or lay tracks. But I'll allow
you to cheat just a bit. Grab hold of my magic robe and we'll fly
south."

George touched the angel's robe and they flew south until they arrived
in an abandoned mud hut in the midst of Incan territory. George was
grateful for the warm weather but it wasn't long until he began to
complain about the heat and humidity.

"Clarence, this hut is a little shithole and I'm sweating up a storm
here. Get me an air-conditioner please."

"Air-conditioner?" replied the angel. "There are no air-conditioners
here. Air conditioning and refrigeration were inventions created by
evil White men." "What?!! You mean to tell me that in the year 2002
these people still haven't figured out a way to keep themselves or
their food cool? a frustrated George asked.

"No George, they haven't. And they never will."

"This is ridiculous. Let's go to the main city to see the Emperor. I
can't live like like this. Where's a car...oh I forget...no cars!
Dammit I'll walk. let's go."

After walking through the jungle for about an hour or so, it began to
get dark. George then asked Clarence to give him a flashlight so that
he could see. "Flashlight? Sorry George, but Thomas Edison was an evil
White man too...and he was never born. There are some branches over
there if you want to make a torch."

"Never mind that!" George shouted back.

By morning time, Clarence and George had arrived at the temple of the
Incans. A bloody human sacrifice was in progress. George turned to
Clarence and cried, "They're going to butcher that poor soul! Somebody
has got to stop this. What horrible murdering beasts! Can't anyone
stop them?"

The angel replied "I'm afraid not. Ritual killings are common place
here."Those evil European racists like Columbus, Cortez and Pizzaro
never existed so the Incans just continued their brutal ways. In fact,
it was the oppressed peoples themselves who made up the bulk of the
Spanish armed forces. The people saw the Spaniards as liberators who
would rid them of the oppressive Incan and Mayan rulers and give them
a better life."

"I can't blame them for helping the Spaniards then. This is a horrible
place. Get me out of this shithole now!" said George.

'Where would you like to go?" Clarence replied.

George said: "Take me to Africa, maybe there's a more advanced and
humane civilization there that I can fit into. Where the nearest
airport?"

"Oh, I forgot...no Wright Brothers." George said. "How about a boat?"

"Boats?" replied the angel. "I'm afraid the most seaworthy rafts
available to you won't be of much help in crossing the vast Atlantic
Ocean. The great Viking sailors and European navigators never existed.
No Phoenicians, no Leif Erikson, no Henry the Navigator, no Columbus,
no Magellan, no Hudson and no Robert Fulton. Even if you could build
your own ship, there would be no compass for you to navigate with and
no sextant either. I'm afraid you're stuck here George."

"Can I touch your robe and fly to Africa then" asked George.

"You're cheating again George, but all right. Touch my robe and we'll
fly to Africa."

When they arrived in Africa, George saw thousands of half-naked
African tribesmen being herded along a dirt path. They were guarded by
other Africans with spears. "What are they doing to those poor men?"
George asked Clarence.

"They are being enslaved by another tribe. Slavery was common in
Africa long before the whites arrived." Clarence said. "In fact, most
of the slaves who were shipped to the Americas were sold to the slave
traders by African tribal leaders."

"That's so sad.' George said. "I want to meet Martin Luther King.
Since his White assassin never existed, this great man should still be
alive. He's probably a great tribal chief somewhere and leader of an
advanced civilization. He will free these slaves from their African
masters. Take me to him Clarence."

Clarence led George to a little hut deep in the heart of Africa. The
naked women and children looked at George in wonder. The young men
were out on a hunt but the older men stayed behind. George was led to
the dingy little hut of the tribal witchdocter and spiritual leader.
There he saw a wild-looking man with a necklace of teeth around his
neck and a huge ring pierced through his nose. "What the hell is that?
George asked.

"Meet Witch-doctor Matunbo Lutamba Kinga" Clarence said. He never
became Reverend Martin Luther King because there were no universities
or seminaries built to educate him. Europeans weren't there to create
such opportunities. But he did become the tribe's spiritual leader. He
specilaizes in casting evil spells. Perhaps he can help you?"

The witch doctor gazed in wonder at George. Then he motioned to his
henchmen to seize young George. The tribesmen grabbed hold of George
and tied him to a nearby tree.

"Stop it! Let me go. What are they going to do to me?" cried George
hysterically.

"They're going to perform a ritual killing on you George. The good
doctor King...I mean Kinga -- believes that by cutting your heart out
while you are still alive, it will bring good fortune and fertility to
his tribe," laughed Clarence.

"Clarence! Clarence! Help me Clarence! Help me!

"But George, you told me that you wanted to go to Africa and to meet
your hero Reverend King."

George said: "This part of Africa has not developed yet. I can see
that now. Take me to North Africa where Egypt and Carthage established
great civilizations. Just get me out of here, please."

Just as the witch doctor's spear was about to carve out George's
heart, George vanished into thin air. He then found himself on the
banks of the river Nile in Egypt.

"Thank you Clarence. Thank you," George said. "I don't understand it
Clarence. Why does so much of the world remain so brutal and
primitive? I learned during Black History Month about many talented
black inventors and scientists. Garrett Morgan, George Washington
Carver, Benjamin Banneker, Granville Woods. Then there's Dr. Carson,
the preeminent brain surgeon in all of America. Where are these men?"

Clarense replied: "Don't you understand yet? America, and Africa,
exist exactly as they did before the Europeans discovered them.
Civilization as you had known it had only been introduced to these
people just a few centuries ago by the Europeans. There are no
universities, no hospitals, no means of transportation other than
animals, no science, no medicine, no machines. In fact, the wheel
hasn't even been discovered in Sub-Saharan
Africa! Those black scientists, inventors, doctors, athletes, and
entertainers you speak of were never given the opportunity to realize
their full human potential because Europeans weren't around to
introduce higher civilization and learning to them. There are no
George Washington Carvers in this non-European world, no Dr. Carsons,
no Booker T. Washingtons, no Benjamin Bannekers, no Michael Jordans,
no Oprah Winfreys, no Bill Cosbys, no..."

"Stop it! That can't be!" cried George. "Let's walk over to the great
pyramids of Egypt right now and I'll show you one of the great wonders
of the world .....built by non-Whites"

They walked a few miles before George stopped and asked where the
nearest toilet was. "Toilets?" replied the angel. There are no toilets
or urinals in this world. Plumbing was developed by evil Europeans.
The people in this non-White world still relieve themselves in open
fields."

Clarence turned around so George could do his business. "I need some
toilet paper." George said.

"Toilet paper?" replied the angel. "There..."

"I know. I know. Toilet paper hasn't been invented yet. Just hand me a
rag then".

Clarence obliged and the two of them went on their way.

"I don't understand. According to my recollections from Geography
class, the great pyramids should be near this very spot. We ought to
be able to see them from miles away," said George.

"Well, George, I'm sure your professors at the college never told you
this, but the ancient Egyptians were not black or brown. They were
Caucasians. The anthropologists who examined the Egyptian mummies
confirmed this fact. There are no pyramids and no Sphinx either. And
the Carthaginians were White too."

George became depressed, but he was determined to prove his beliefs.
"What's in Europe?" he asked.

"Europe became populated by Huns and other Asiatic tribes. They've
settled down a bit but life is much the same as it is in North
America. A nomadic existence based on hunting and food gathering. No
great cities, no science, no buildings, no culture, no fine art - just
a hard daily struggle against life and the elements of nature. In a
Europe without evil Whites, the Roman Empire never existed nor did the
Greeks. There was no Renaisance either."

"Take me to Asia then. Surely the great civilizations of Persia,
India, China, and Japan will suit me" George said. "Clarence, to the
Taj Mahal please." "The Taj Mahal?" replied the angel. "Don't you know
that the ancient Persian and Indian civilizations were established by
ancient Indo-European tribes who crossed the Himalayas? They are the
ones who civilized India and built the Taj Mahal. Those are the great
civilizations
that Marco Polo, Columbus, and others were searching for.Did you know
that Iran is Persian for "land of the Aryan?"

George said: "Don't tell me that the Indians were White men! That
can't be. In the world I came from, I knew many Indians and they were
not White!"

Clarence explained: "As the centuries passed, the Indo-Europeans who
created Indian civilization intermarried with the native majorities
who populated the Indian subcontinent. Gradually there were less and
less evil White people until they faded out completely, along with the
advanced civilization they had built. You will notice that there are
still a few white-skinned and fair-haired Indians and Pakistanis
around today -- in the world you came from that is.

George became worried. He knew he could never fit into the harsh
primitive world he had been thrust into. Suddenly he thought of Japan.
"Japan! I'll show you now Clarence. Take me to Japan. If the Japanese
can make TVs and cameras then I'm sure I'll find a decent civilization
that I can live in."

Clarence transported George to Japan. George observed that Japanese
society was the most orderly, advanced and civil that he had seen, but
it seemed as if almost everyone was either a rice farmer, a fisherman,
or a soldier. There were no cars, no skyscapers, no lights, no
stereos, no sciences, no technologies, no universities. It was a
stagnant agricultural society that seemed to have reached its high
water mark and was incapable of moving forward. George knew he could
not live here either.

Clarence explained to George: "Even the industrious Japanese and
Chinese peoples had to rely on the evil Europeans to build the modern
Asia that you had in mind. In this world, Japan exists exactly as it
did before Commodore Perry's American naval ships arrived in Japan in
the 1850s. There's no industry, no technology, no Fuji film, no Sony,
no Hitachi, no Panasonic, no Toyota, no Sushi bars, no baseball...none
of the trappings or comforts of modern life. These things don't exist
in Japan or anywhere else because
Europeans weren't there to create them and share them with the rest of
the world. Would you care for a bowl of rice George?"

George began to feel sick in both his body and his mind. Not only was
he depressed, but exposure to the harsh elements of nature had left
him physically ill. "Clarence, I seem to have contracted some type of
sickness. I must have some anti-biotics."

"Anti-biotics? There's no...

"Oh Shut up already! Then just take me back to the world as it was!"

"Sorry George. I'm not authorized to do that. Only my boss can make
that call." Clarence said to him: "You see George. Your father was
right. You really had a wonderful race. Don't you see what a foolish
mistake it is to be ashamed and guilty about your own people, and to
let them die out? This is what the world would be like without the
creative spark of Edison and Ford and Pasteur and Marconi. No great
scientists, or mathematicians, or inventors or fine artists. No
Archimedes, no Aristotle, no Socrates, no
Alexander, no Renaissance, no Newton, no Kepler, no Goddard, no
Mendel, no Tesla, no Faraday, no Guttenberg, no Shakespeare, no
Dickens, no Twain, no Mozart, no Beethoven, no Da Vinci, no
Michelangelo, no Galileo, no Copernicus. No Venice, no Paris, no
Lisbon, no Madrid, no Zurich, no Berlin, no St. Petersburg, no
Budapest, no Rome, no Milan, no Vienna, no London, no New York, no
Rio, no Sydney. No orchestras, no museums, no universities, no
hospitals, no libraries, no theaters, no radio, no books, no
television, no electricity, no refrigeration, no heating, no plumbing,
no houses, no steel, no stadiums, no vaccines, no cars, no planes, no
trains, no ships, no
dentists, no surgeons, no computers, no telephones, and most important
- there's no creative genius to be found that could create and sustain
such a high level of civilization. There's nothing for the people of
this world to build upon. It's just a daily struggle for subsistence.
A brutal planet where the few people who aren't mired in eternal
ignorance and darkness have reached their peak of civilization and are
advancing no further."

Clarence went on to lecture the broken and depressed young man for
seven days straight. He covered everything. History, science,
economics, philosophy, art, literature, fine music, architecture,
medicine, politics, agriculture, religion, and all the creations and
contributions that the European peoples had made in every conceivable
field of human endeavor. George listened closely to every word. He
felt like a man who had been
reborn.

After his lecture, Clarence the Angel floated away towards heaven. "I
hope you have found all this to be educational, and I hope you have
learned an important lesson. Enjoy your world George!" mocked the
departing angel.

George began to sob like a baby. It was the year 2002 and he was alone
and hungry in a backwards world where Europeans had never existed. He
cried out to the stars: "Please God. I see what a fool I've been. I
understand now what my father was trying to tell me. I want to go back
to the world that I came from. A world where Europeans not only
existed, but blessed the rest of humanity world with their unique
creative ability. I want to live in a civilized world. Please
God!...take me back!...take me back!...Oh God....please."

Suddenly George was transported back to his college dormitory. Drunk
with joy, George jumped into the showers before he could even take his
clothes off!.

"Warm water! and soap! Life is beautiful!" he screamed.

George's floormates looked at him as if he was crazy. "George! Have
you gone crazy?" asked a bewildered schoolmate.

"No my friend. I haven't taken leave of my senses. I've come to them!"
George replied. George then began to sing classic European folk songs
in the shower. Miraculously, he was able to sing in many different
languages. He sang O Sole Mio in Italian, Amazing Grace in English,
Gloire Immortelle in French, Das Ist Der Tag in German, and also
Belgian, Spanish and French ballads and waltzes. Tears of sheer joy
began to stream down his cheeks. The degenerate music of Hip-Hop and
Rap lost all of its appeal to young George.

After his shower, George drove to a nearby restaurant and ordered two
whole entrees. One was Lasagna and the other was a delicious Veal
Marsala. With his Italian food he had a Greek salad with Spanish
olives and Russian dressing, drank a whole bottle of French wine,
followed by a German pastry for dessert. He finished his meal off with
a hot cup of English tea and a Cuban cigar.

George said out loud: "Oh those European peoples and their delicious
cuisine. Clarence was right after all. What a wonderful race!"

George was happy, but at the same time he realized there was much work
to be done. He thought of all those poor whites in Rhodesia and South
Africa who were being murdered and raped ever since they gave up
control of those once-European nations. He thought of the many
thousands of qualified Whites who were passed up for good jobs and
college entrance because of racial quotas that discriminate against
Europeans. He thought about the declining birthrates among all the
European nations of the world. He remembered that
Europeans everywhere were dwindling in numbers every year even as
their own nations were being flooded with third world immigration. He
recalled the O.J. Simpson verdict and how millions of blacks in
America cheered when that brutal double murderer was set free by a
black jury after he stabbed two Whites to death. He remembered the Los
Angeles riots of 1992, where dozens of Whites were dragged out of
their vehicles and killed like dogs in the streets by packs of
White-hating monsters who were never even punished! He remembered the
time when Jesse Jackson led a cheer at Stanford University: "Hey Hey
Ho Ho, Western Civ. has got to go!" His European blood began to
boil in righteous indignation when he recalled how Jesse Jackson once
said he had spit in White people's food when he was a young restaurant
worker. George now understood that that his people were on a collision
course with worldwide disaster and genocide. George realized that this
great people must not perish from the face of the earth.

George could not wait to see his father. He longed to embrace him and
apologize for all of the foolish and disrespectful things he had said
to him. But first, George had a score to settle with a certain college
professor. He walked into Dr. Silverstein's auditorium and quietly
took a seat in the back row. The nasal voiced Silverstein was
lecturing on and on
about racial and gender inequalities in European-centered
civilizations. It was vintage Silverstein. George's impressionable
White schoolmates, with their baggy pants, hip-hop clothes and
backwards baseball caps, were swallowing Silverstein's poison pills
hook, line and sinker. After letting Silverstein spew his cultural
poison for about 15 minutes or so, George raised his hand so that he
could give the professor a piece of his newly educated mind.

"George? Is that you? I remember you from last semester. I wasn't
aware that you were here today. I failed to recognize you in that
shirt and tie, and without your earrings. You must have enjoyed my
course so much that you signed up again eh? Class, I'd like for you to
meet George. He was one of my brightest students last semester. He
truly has a thorough grasp of the ideas presented in this course.
George, would you be so kind as to tell my class about that brilliant
term paper you wrote about European racism,
imperialism, and the need for monetary reparations?"

That's when young George let loose on the unsuspecting Professor.

"ENOUGH! You scheming devil! You mendacious fabricator of falsehoods!
You pusillanimous purveyor of pinko propaganda! How dare you try to
corrupt and manipulate our young minds when your filthy lies. We
Europeans have nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to apologize for, and
everything to be proud of. And most of all, we don't owe anybody
jack-shit - not one thin dime! To the contrary, it is the rest of
humanity that owes us a debt which can never be repaid! We are the
rightful heirs and protectors of a rich cultural heritage. You vile
manipulator! We are the sons of the Romans, the sons of
the Greeks, the Celtics, the Vikings, the Normans, the Saxons. Why do
you inflict shame and guilt upon us? We Europeans didn't just
contribute to civilization...WE ARE CIVILIZATION! And I declare that I
will no longer tolerate you shithead "intellectuals" trying to tear
our people down. Never again will we walk on eggshells when we speak,
always fearing that we might be called "racist." I no longer care what
people think. All that matters is the truth which you have sought to
pervert!"

"What are you up to anyway? Why do you to corrupt my young peers by
shoving false heroes down their throats. Enough of your Marxist games
of divide and conquer, you commie pinko subversive! I don't want to
learn anymore about Martin Luther King, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or
Black History Month. They would not have amounted to anything without
the institutions of high civilization created by the European peoples.
I'm going to set this class straight about who the truly great men of
history are - the European
statesmen, scientists, explorers, monarchs, navigators, conquerors,
inventors, artists, writers, philosophers - the innovative giants of
history that you and your ilk have erased from our collective
memories. You speak of a world liberated from European influence?
Permit me tell your students about such a world, Silverstein, because
I can speak from personal experience, you wretched little conspiring
monster!"

Silverstein turned white as a ghost. He was shellshocked and rendered
speechless for the first time in his career! Never in all of his years
at the University had a student dared to so boldly challenge his
falsehoods. Speaking from the heart as well as the mind, and with an
eloquence he never thought he could muster, George broke out into a
60-minute monologue on history, science, philosophy, culture, and all
the other attributes that
constitute high civilization. The young students were captivated by
George's brilliant oratory. Many were moved to tears. By the end of
his tirade, George's reawakened classmates were thundering their
approval of his speech. The class gave George a standing ovation and
they thanked him for helping them rediscover and reclaim their own
sense of pride and lost identity. The unstoppable power of truth had
melted away years of Marxist guilt tripping, self hate, wimpishness
and cultural brainwashing in just one unforgettable hour. The inspired
students proceeded to storm out of Silverstein's class,
throwing their hip-hop baseball caps and nose earrings at him as they
stampeded out and vowed never to return. They lifted George up upon
their shoulders and carried him out of the auditorium like a
conquering hero. With a glint in his eye, George glanced up towards
the sky, winked and said "Thank you, Clarence."

Dr. Silverstein was left humiliated and visibly shaken. He knew that
these reawakened European kids could never again be brainwashed with
"political correctness" and White guilt. Silverstein's greatest fear
was that more of these proud European youths would one day reawaken
and take their country and civilization back from the Silversteins of
the world.

Silverstein was worried, but he remained confident that most young men
and women would never learn the truth about their glorious past and
unique creative abilties. After all, the mass media, Hollywood, the
music industry, the colleges, and the public schools are all
controlled by "liberals" like Dr. Silverstein. With the power of
political correctness in their hands, they can continue to tear down
our European ancestors, destroy our
institutions and traditions, instigate blacks and other races against
the whites, flood America with third-world immigration, and push
"hip-hop" music, homosexuality, and other garbage onto a weak,
confused and morally degenerate youth. After reflecting upon these
facts, Silverstein smiled a devilish grin and muttered to himself: "A
few of these European sheep may wake up to what's being done to them,
but the majority of these idiots never will." And he smiled
again....and laughed with diabolical Marxist glee. Then
he repeated to himself "No...they will never figure it all out until
it's too late."

Or will they?

[Turtoni]

"tooly" <rd...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

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I'm not with this. I wanna support boiling the pot.

Eventually i imagine they'll be one government for the world.

[tooly]

"Turtoni" <tur...@alt.philosophy> wrote in message
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Why do you support this Turtoni?

Ha, I was a Star Trek fan...especially the later fare [Generations]. I
always thought that program actually presented a social commentary about
what many intellectuals see as the new vision of the world. All colors, all
races, all creeds and ethnicities, even aliens, represented in random
fashion in a social heirarchy that supposedly only recognizes 'intellectual
rationality and learnedness' for social promotion. Ha, we are even offered
an "inter-alien" sexual relationship with Worf, in a not-so-clever
'suggestive' undertow of promoting "inter-racial" affairs in real life [here
meaning black with white]. The program is a nice vision if one exists in the
upper ranks of social order with the means to live above the masses. I too,
would love it that the world existed like one giant university campus.
That's hardly the case, or will it ever be. If you notice, even in the Star
Wars movies, aliens only make for a background...while human beings control
the show.

It is in the masses, that great human eqivalency we call the 'middle class'
in western civ, that one's starts to see the disaster that is taking place.
You say you are well traveled, which tells me you have come by means to
seperate yourself from the common order, either by taxis, boats, planes,
condos, houses in the country...whatever; but that your travel takes you
from point a to point b whereupon you observe the realites almost from a car
window? Am I right? Oh, sure you may go to restaurants and movie houses
and maybe even slum with the locals at some night club or whatever...but
whatever the case, as a world traveler, you apparently are not shackled to
the mundane, 9-5 everyday life that the great great majority of us exist
within. You have means; even if in your work, you are not shackled to
simple neighborhood existence, unable to afford such travel. You can leave
a bad situation.

In other words, without even knowing it, you may be part of that 'elite'
that we talk about [us having to deal with multicultural realities you guys,
the elites, promote].

I am reminded of some of my own family, whereupon at the turn of the
century, my great grand uncle had the entrepenural wherewithall to start a
lumber business. I was told it was hard at first, but little by little he
overcame that intial enertial market resistance, and soon built it up, and
after about 10 years of hard work, founded a small factory...which
eventually led to empowering the entire citizenry of the smallville town he
lived in. By the depression years, that citizenry depended upon that
factory for income, though layoffs were a reality, my great great uncle
strived to keep it afloat...and he prevailed, but often only by a prayer and
struggle. The town survived and the factory, after WWII, prospered and he
opened another factory on the other side of the town and the town grew. But
my great uncle was old by then, and so he handed the company over to his
children...and soon thereafter, he died.

By 1960, his children were had lost interest in the factory, and soon,
decided to sell it off. And who did they sell to? Chinese prospectors.

Where before that smallville citizenry could stand behind that factory as an
extension to themselves, who did the labor, the work and sweat to keep alive
a dream that my great great uncle had, even to make great sacrifice during a
harsh depression and war years, now...they were severed; becoming in essence
wage slaves to some other domains dreams, not their own, whereupon now a
chinese great uncle was probably promulgating his own children's fortune in
the wildnerness. It was social subtrafuge...and the townspeople had no say.

My great great uncle's children now live, perhaps like you, in boats and
planes, in condos, and country homes, traveling the world as their great
oyster, seeing only the finest restaurants, and as new world travelers,
promulgating a new ideology that everyone should be as free and equal as
them.

Meanwhile, an entire smallville town where my great great uncles grave is,
are now empty of dreams, living under a foreign domain [economically],
helping create nothing of a greater order for which they may be a part, but
simply garnering a wage...to survive.

I equate this much to how western civilization grew, under the auspices of
certain visionaries that held a certain unwritten social contract with the
citizenry at large. Over time, that citizenry at large became entire
societies and then a giant culture...the West...and it's essence as
euro-centric, not by evil design, but by natural order of a commonality in
dreams, vision, and the sweat and toil to 'get things done' and serve the
dreams of all families with that common heritage.

And we got things done...and now, those children of the fortunate owners,
want to sell out...in a shallow understanding and disconnect to that social
contract, whereby, a profound injustice is being done to the citizenry of
smallville, all across Europe and America.

Marie Antionette also had the same sort of social disconnect you know...when
lore has it she offered the citizenry 'cake' as substitute for the bread
their hungry bellies did not have. There are other kinds of starvation
other than of the stomach you know; such as of the heart...of the visions
found in that inner circle of domain for which a familial connectivity is
harnessed and unleashed as movement of entire peoples.

The people are starving for moral direction; some vision of hopefulness that
bring us together. A new world order based upon multi-ethnicity just does
not cut the mustard, but works only to demoralize us that much
more...actually promoting hopelessness. Except for those like yourself
perhaps...the ones able to stand above it all, seeing life from a car,train,
or condo window, having little understanding of the hardships and miseries
that exist out there in smallville neighborhoods everywhere. We are looking
for something to tie us together once again, and globalism only tears us
apart.

BTW, I think you are a great addition to this newsgroup.

[Turtoni]

"tooly" <rd...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

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I support humankind coming to together and taking down the walls because
essentially we're all the same. If we can learn to live together without
caring about the superficial differences then i'm sure the world would be a
better place for all of us. Of course this is easier to imagine than to
actually put into practice.

> Ha, I was a Star Trek fan...especially the later fare [Generations]. I
> always thought that program actually presented a social commentary about
> what many intellectuals see as the new vision of the world. All colors,
> all races, all creeds and ethnicities, even aliens, represented in random
> fashion in a social heirarchy that supposedly only recognizes
> 'intellectual rationality and learnedness' for social promotion. Ha, we
> are even offered an "inter-alien" sexual relationship with Worf, in a
> not-so-clever 'suggestive' undertow of promoting "inter-racial" affairs in
> real life [here meaning black with white]. The program is a nice vision if
> one exists in the upper ranks of social order with the means to live above
> the masses. I too, would love it that the world existed like one giant
> university campus. That's hardly the case, or will it ever be. If you
> notice, even in the Star Wars movies, aliens only make for a
> background...while human beings control the show.

Perhaps that is so that the viewer can identify more with the lead
characters.

> It is in the masses, that great human eqivalency we call the 'middle
> class' in western civ, that one's starts to see the disaster that is
> taking place. You say you are well traveled, which tells me you have come
> by means to seperate yourself from the common order, either by taxis,
> boats, planes, condos, houses in the country...whatever; but that your
> travel takes you from point a to point b whereupon you observe the
> realites almost from a car window? Am I right? Oh, sure you may go to
> restaurants and movie houses and maybe even slum with the locals at some
> night club or whatever...but whatever the case, as a world traveler, you
> apparently are not shackled to the mundane, 9-5 everyday life that the
> great great majority of us exist within. You have means; even if in your
> work, you are not shackled to simple neighborhood existence, unable to
> afford such travel. You can leave a bad situation.

I've lived in a number of different countries, rather than just passing
through, so I guess I probably got a better feel for those places. I have
socialised with a broad spectrum of people. But it would be fair to say that
I typically gravitate more towards educated people, since they usually seem
more complex and therefore more interesting to me. I've also worked in UN
type scientific institutions, in which there's dozens of countries
represented.

I imagine they'll always be bad/poor neighborhoods but those bad/poor
neighborhoods shouldnt be ghettos of a certain culture and ethnicity. And
getting an education should allow people to better themselves if they would
like too.

> In other words, without even knowing it, you may be part of that 'elite'
> that we talk about [us having to deal with multicultural realities you
> guys, the elites, promote].

I'm not part of that 'elite' tooly, far from it.

People are having to deal with the multiculturalism that has always existed.
If there were no multiculturalism, it was all boiled down into one big
culture then there would be no differences, no multi this or multi that.
We'd just be a bunch of humans trying to get along.

Evolution is brutal. We're all inviduals trying to survive and that means
getting out there and doing something. I left home at seventeen years old,
worked fairly hard, took some risks, giving up my past, my culture and my
ethnicity (I didnt think about those things). I don't want to be special. I
just want to be another caring, "sucessful" human being. The British Special
(heh) Forces (the SAS) have a saying "He who dares wins". I think anybody
that takes up that challenge will "win".

> I equate this much to how western civilization grew, under the auspices of
> certain visionaries that held a certain unwritten social contract with the
> citizenry at large. Over time, that citizenry at large became entire
> societies and then a giant culture...the West...and it's essence as
> euro-centric, not by evil design, but by natural order of a commonality in
> dreams, vision, and the sweat and toil to 'get things done' and serve the
> dreams of all families with that common heritage.
>
> And we got things done...and now, those children of the fortunate owners,
> want to sell out...in a shallow understanding and disconnect to that
> social contract, whereby, a profound injustice is being done to the
> citizenry of smallville, all across Europe and America.

If we want to stay competitive we cant afford to support inefficient
practices. We need to stay competitive so that we can at the very least
defend ourselves. This means that the marketplace is very dynamic and we
have to be ready to change to keep ahead. If you look at the countries that
support inefficeint practices they tend to have high levels of taxation and
higher unemployment.

> Marie Antionette also had the same sort of social disconnect you
> know...when lore has it she offered the citizenry 'cake' as substitute for
> the bread their hungry bellies did not have. There are other kinds of
> starvation other than of the stomach you know; such as of the heart...of
> the visions found in that inner circle of domain for which a familial
> connectivity is harnessed and unleashed as movement of entire peoples.

Families can certainly provide each other with support, direction and
meaning.

> The people are starving for moral direction; some vision of hopefulness
> that bring us together.

The best a society can provide is useful opportunities. But that isn't to
say that those opportunities will be handed to people on a plate. If
everything were easy then it would be of no value.

> A new world order based upon multi-ethnicity just does not cut the
> mustard, but works only to demoralize us that much more...actually
> promoting hopelessness.

The USA probably has the best opportunutues available to anyone on the
planet if people dare to take them up.

> Except for those like yourself perhaps...the ones able to stand above it
> all,
> seeing life from a car,train, or condo window, having little understanding
> of
> the hardships and miseries that exist out there in smallville
> neighborhoods
> everywhere.

The standard of living per capita has never been this good. People move to
where the opportunities exist.

> We are looking for something to tie us together once again, and globalism
> only tears us apart.

If we stay apart, how will we really deal with the looming global problems?

> BTW, I think you are a great addition to this newsgroup.

That's nice of you to say so, thankyou tooly.

[Topaz]

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:02:00 -0500, "Turtoni" <tur...@alt.philosophy>
wrote:

>
>I'm not with this. I wanna support boiling the pot.
>
>Eventually i imagine they'll be one government for the world.
>

THE LIES OF GLOBALISM
By David Duke
EURO National Director
www.whitecivilrights.com <http://www.whitecivilrights.com>

Today, I speak about the genocidal effects of globalism as well as its
inherent contradictions.

As all of us know, the world is getting smaller. Incredible
advancements in transportation and communication make it so. Many
national corporations that once had minor branches overseas have now
become truly international, and their own loyalties have gone beyond
their own national orgins. Profit is their one flag, their one
loyalty. It flies above nation, culture, race, morality, health,
concerns over the environment, anything. These global concentrations
of enormous wealth have become a juggernaut, amassing huge power and
weight like a snowball turning into an avalanche. Interwoven with
their enterprises, the globalists dominate the media, which, of
course, has also become truly international. With it they control the
democracies, where the sheeple cannot distinguish between a free press
and a controlled one.

Many, in fact, labor under the impression we have a free press in
America. Hah! That is the looniest notion imaginable here in the first
fledgling years of the 21st century. Yes, we are free in America to
publish a pamphlet or house newspaper, maybe even put a few
controversial flyers out on the street; even though in many
communities, if the pamphlet is politically incorrect you are liable
to be hassled by the police and the local authorities. Many
communities for instance have laws that you cannot leave literature at
people's doorsteps or put them on automobiles. Of course, you cannot
distribute them at shopping centers, that are private property, and
the United Colors of Benetton might get angry and have you arrested if
you persist.

Of course, leaflets or small circulation newspapers have never been
really dangerous to any power structure, at least not since they were
state of the art communication devices, like during the time of the
American Revolution. Now if a major media chain or even a daily
newspaper or local TV station gets out of step, that can be problem to
the globalists, but they have that so well under control it is
amazing. The newspapers, the newsmagazines, the TV stations and
networks are so much in lockstep it is incredible. In many European
major cities, the control is not as extensive as that in the United
States.

For instance in many European cities, and I can give Paris as an
example, among the many daily newspapers, one can find more than one
that basically sides with the Palestinians rather than the Israelis;
the same is true in Rome. In America, there are none. That's right,
out of over 2000 dailies, not a single newspaper in America takes more
the Palestinian view of the conflict rather than the Israeli view. Oh
yes, there are a few papers that will sometimes disagree with the
Israeli government on a particular point, just as there is even some
Jewish opposition in Israel that will do the same thing; but on the
fundamentals, every American paper, Jewish-owned or not, is quite
supportive of Israel no matter what atrocity, what murder and mayhem,
or what human rights they blatantly violate.

In my last broadcast, I mentioned an article that appeared in Jewish
newspapers (for Jewish consumption) that stated 17 out of 19 members
of the Israeli Cabinet support a law that prohibits Palestinians from
buying land in Jewish areas of Israel or even living in apartment
buildings with Jews! That's right, you heard me correctly. How would
the American press scream, if any governor in the United States and
his cabinet supported a law to forbid African-Americans from living in
all-White apartment buildings! Of course, Israeli schools are already
rigidly segregated. But, where is the outcry in the pro-Israeli media
in America? Remember the unanimous outcry in the American press
against Apartheid in South Africa? For some reason there is no outcry
at all in the American press about the Apartheid in Israel. Why? Well
why do you think?

The horrible injustice to the Palestinians should be so obvious that I
shouldn't have to even mention it; the mainstream press if it were
honest should do that. But, I have to point out to my fellow Americans
who have been spoon fed everything by the Jewish supremacists, what
should be all too obvious. Israel invaded the West Bank and Gaza 35
years ago. There were almost no Jews living there. Israel put the
Palestinian people under a brutal military occupation and denied them
all semblance of liberty. Of course, some very brave Palestinians
resisted this brutal occupation. America and every country recognize
that people have an absolute right to resist foreign military
occupation. Over the course of these 35 years Israel has killed
thousands. Please listen to me closely. It has killed thousands of
men, women and children. It has blinded, maimed, crippled and
disfigured tens of thousands, including thousands of children,
purposely destroyed thousands of homes, businesses, hos!
pitals, and schools. Incarcerated and tortured, yes, I said tortured,
hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. Americans don't even know that
torture of Palestinians is legal in Israel. And to top it all off,
during this period of destruction and murder they have built hundreds
of Jewish settlements on the very Palestinian land they occupy. While
they destroy Palestinian homes and cities, they bring in Jews from
places like New York and Moscow and build homes on settlements in the
midst of the sorely oppressed Palestinians.

Don't hold your breath for a huge protest of these human rights
violations by the American press. Read my article on press control,
and I can prove to you that Jewish supremacists control the vast
majority of the American media.

So enough on the so-called free press. The point here must be that the
same media that is in lockstep for Israel is also in lockstep for the
New World Order and the Globalism that it represents. For the last few
decades of my life I have earnestly tried to inform people that those
who are the true forces behind globalism are in actuality, racial
supremacists. But, they are not the so-called racial supremacists the
media talks about. They are not European, African or Asian
supremacists, they are Jewish supremacists. These Jewish supremacists
have a master plan that should be obvious for anyone to see. They
consistently attempt to undermine the culture, racial identity and
solidarity, economy, political independence of every nation in the
world, but there is one race they don't seek to undermine. There is
only one exception. There is one nation that is not undermined, and
that my friends is the Jewish nation, and by that I meant not just
Israel, but the Jewish supremacists aro!
und the world who preach their own supremacy among themselves and
really think they have some divine right to rule over not only
Palestine but over the rest of the world as well.

So let's talk about the inconsistencies of the globalism now
dominating the world. First they say they are for multiculturalism and
for diversity. Let me again state the obvious. The reasons we have
different cultures, and different races and different national
identities is because we have different nations and languages and
races. Building a McDonald's and a coca cola machine on every street
corner of the world is not only injurious to the health of the people
of the world, it is uniformity, not diversity.

It is unicultural not multicultural. Supporting massive immigration
into Western nations is not multicultural; the nations the immigrants
come from offer a truly different cultural environment. Melting them
into one brown mass does not create diversity; it eventually destroys
the indigenous culture of that particular nation. Even more so, it
destroys the unique genetic heritage and character of those people and
the unique nations that they created. Is it really a good thing for
Germans to be outnumbered by Turks in their own nation? Is it good to
remake Germany into a land foreign to its own people? Is it good to
make whole sections of America into a replica of Mexico? Should The
Russian people in the 21st century become dissolved by a massive
influx of Asians, a fate Russia diligently avoided for two thousand
years?

On the opposite hand, do we really want the Third world to be made
into to economic colonies for the New World Order and the new
globalism? What will this do to them, to their own cultures, to the
well being of the world's ecology?

Let me get something straight for all of you who believe what the
Jewish supremacists say about me. Please wake up. I am not a White
supremacist; I certainly believe in the differences between races and
nations that are obvious, but I seek no supremacy over anyone; I
respect all the people's and cultures of the world. I say that every
people have the right to preserve their heritage, their culture, their
own political and economic sovereignty.

And I am not racist or hateful about it. I am not hypocritical about
it, because what I want for my own people, the European people, is to
have the same rights I support for everyone.

I am entirely consistent. The Jewish supremacists are the inconsistent
ones, the hypocrites, the racial supremacists. They and their New
World Order seeks to destroy every nation, every, culture, every
heritage, every race but their own. They seek a global supremacy over
media, economics, and governments. I don't seek supremacy over other
races or nations, but I want Europeans and Americans to maintain our
own heritage in our own nations.

I want our children grow to up in a society where they are safe and
comfortable, where they can have a society reflecting their own
history and their own nature. I don't want them forbidden to sing a
Christmas carol in school because it might offend the increasing
numbers of those of different religions; I don't want them to see
George Washington's name taken off their school because African
Americans consider him a racist. I don't want them to face the ugly
reality of racial gang violence that so pervades our major cities. I
don't want them to face discrimination, even if it given the nice
sounding name of affirmative action. I don't want my descendants to go
to school and discover they speak the wrong the language, English. And
I want the standards of Europe and the standards of America to be the
standards of my progeny.

Finally, I don't want to see the eradication of my people from the
earth. Every unique life form has right to live, and so do we! But
immigration, miscegenation and low birthrates will destroy us as
completely as any traditional genocide.

The diversity that we must preserve is in the world, in nature. The
globalists are attempting to make us all listen to the same music; eat
the same food, live the same way. They are the enemies of real
diversity, and they are the enemies of freedom. The bigger the
government the less the freedom. How can people in say Zurich decide
what is best for people in Kashmir. Real freedom comes from small
government, not from a global one. The most important freedom of all
is the right to live, and to live as your fathers did. We must be able
to live in the harmony of our own land and our own culture and our own
people.

I understand the Jewish people's desire to preserve their genotype and
their culture and their religion; I share that sentiment and endorse
that human right. The difference between us is that I support that
right for the Jewish people, for all people, for my own people. The
Jewish supremacists on the other hand, seek to destroy every other
patriotic movement but their own.

This has been David Duke sharing some of my latest thoughts.

Listen to this program online at www.davidduke.com
<http://www.davidduke.com>.

[Topaz]

"I was listening to a speech that he gave in Sweden. You can listen at
the
Url below if ya want. http://www.davidduke.com/

Anyway, the guy made an analogy that sums it all up.

He said, lets look at Iceland. They have one of the worlds lowest
crime rates, and have some of the worlds highest test scores.

He then went on to say: Haiti is rich in natural resources, they have
great weather, beaches etc.. Yet its a murder, rape capital of the
world. etc, etc.

He went on to say: If we were to take all of the people from Haiti &
Move them to Iceland, Well, they would soon die.

Take those from Iceland and move them to Haiti and within one
generation Haiti would be paradise on earth.

He explained it better than I did. But you should get the gist of the
Iceland / Haiti analogy. Better yet, listen to the Stockholm speech
and hear it for yourself.."

Tommy

[tooly]

"minus" <underwear...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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You ever hear of the addage whereupon brothers will fight one another until
such time someone attacks the family; then their differences melt and they
become a brotherly unit. I have even heard this argument for the world
itself, that someone or other actually thought being attacked by some
percieved alien world (sic) would be cause for the brotherhood of mankind to
put aside differences to become a single force.

Self identity is perhaps a complex thing...and better understood as
concentric circles of domain. We resolve that identity at any given time,
depending upon the greater outer circle that is being threatened the most
(perhaps?), or the issue being resolved.
Thusly, primary politics can be just as vicious as the general
election...but one only an organizational conflict, while the other the
battle itself.

As John Paul Jones said, 'We have not begun to fight'...for not until
recently has the world presented us with this particular outer circle of
domain as the true battlefield. Now, unfortunately, it has become.

[tooly]

Well, just had to reply. I'm sure you are a decent human being...and you
argue the 'party line', so to speak, of what is being promulgated by today's
university and mainstream liberal mindset. Publius also does this.
Educated...sure, sure. But I wonder if you and others have really thought
this through...I mean, where it takes us, what it is doing to the masses.
There is a term..."useful idiot"...and though I would mean no flagrant
disrespect, I only offer the term to perhaps shake you from a mindset that
might be 'programmed' into you and not necessarily thought out very well?
[though I am sure, like I did once, you will argue quite confident and
vigoursly to the contrary].

I once bought into the same 'party line' too...I've seen the math, the
rationality; sat in the classroom with a certain rabid eagerness, only
wanting to become enlightened, pleasing my instructors and superiors. It
took some time to break out of the mold they set my mind into...and start to
'rethink' things for myself.

Free Trade and wealth creation alone justifies multiculturism...as a theory.
But there is more to life than intellectual purview whereby, the masses can
be thrown around like this [by the elites]. We have a long long history in
the world based upon a slow national evolution that resulted in the 'states'
we have today. We are quite conditioned for certain expectations based upon
these unwritten social contracts of unity...whereby the elite cannot simply
decide to sever and go their ways without consequences. And our family
health depends upon it. And whether anyone likes it or not, we have a
social tether that reaches back in time to our forebears. It is not
completely OURS to own in the now, but only serve as temporary adjunct to
the future, from our past. Severing ties strikes deeper than most of us
understand well IMHO.

As I took my own education out on the street and 'witnessed' what was being
done to my own country, my own land rich of the heritage of my father's
fathers struggles, I started to realize the grand 'sell out' multiculturism
and globalization was. The elites had decided that these unsaid social
contracts, honored back to our first socializations on the planet (I would
surmise), were no longer valid; now usurped by this new 'intellectualism'
that distanced itself so far from the masses, that the masses themselves no
longer were even 'human' to them...but objects of rational order to now be
retooled and socially re-engineered for 'rational objective reasons'. And
what were those 'real' reasons?

Essentially CHEAP LABOR!

The new global paradise of the melting of differences across the world was
really a PR ploy to help the corporate sellout of our national domains for
economic efficiency...in other words GREED...and what intellectuals
everywhere were now saying was 'inevitable'.

The rational mind had become alienated from the masses...no longer able to
understand the most fundamental trait of human forte...our 'spirit'. The
pain, the misery, the suffering...no longer valid elements of discovery by
which BEing was communicated, but now, we were only lab specimens made real
only by the chalk boards of classrooms across the upper eschelons of 'mind
creation' in elites that would never have to suffer the intransigencies they
were promulgating upon that middle class of western civilization...the vast
majority of numbers of Euro descended peoples in the world.

I even coined a new term...for myself...for this new alienation...and I call
it 'super rationality'...a state almost akin to the Mengele condition that
found it able to use human beings of lesser intellectual prowess and social
position, as lab rats [during his noted empowerment during the nazi era].
It is a new kind of tyranny in the world we are seeing..as one thread
states, Homo Superior [self imposed] as a new ruling class made only of
'intellect', but devoided of the warmth of spiritual understanding that make
our HUMANITY real; Homo Sapiens gone mad.

'What gaineth a man the world, if he loseth his soul'?

I am happy for you Turtoni, apparently not having to experience what is
going on out here in smallville; seeing only the hope of the top eschelons
such as the UN might provide. If you saw from my vantage point, you would
see a different light though...neighborhoods you once felt safe and secure
within, where families could walk the streets in safety, where your
daughters and sons could play with impunity...all being transformed almost
overnight to something scary, chaotic, and alien...violent. A silent
resolve is building under a grand slow demoralization...and movement is
afoot. But not to the grand new global order you intellectuals are
theorizing...but something far more sinister. Unrest is on the rise.

"Turtoni" <tur...@alt.philosophy> wrote in message

news:06KdnQuC_P6...@comcast.com...

[Turtoni]

"tooly" <rd...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

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I like your writings tooly. There's so much to answer and talk out in each
of your posts it's hard to know where to start. I'm not dismissing what you
say and I do sympathize with your points but I was wondering if I might join
you in writing some kind stream of consciousness funky cyber punk musings?
I'm not sure how important this is all to you and don't want you to feel
insulted by my request?

Do you ever write any "philosophical soul punk fiction" that I could add
some of me onto?

[Publius]

"tooly" <rd...@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:kxrff.1032$6y4...@bignews3.bellsouth.net:

> Well, just had to reply. I'm sure you are a decent human being...and
> you argue the 'party line', so to speak, of what is being promulgated
> by today's university and mainstream liberal mindset. Publius also
> does this. Educated...sure, sure. But I wonder if you and others have
> really thought this through...I mean, where it takes us, what it is
> doing to the masses.

I am compelled to respond, not only because my name is mentioned, but
because the sentiments are so lucidly expressed.

> Free Trade and wealth creation alone justifies multiculturism...as a
> theory. But there is more to life than intellectual purview whereby,
> the masses can be thrown around like this [by the elites]. We have a
> long long history in the world based upon a slow national evolution
> that resulted in the 'states' we have today. We are quite conditioned
> for certain expectations based upon these unwritten social contracts
> of unity...whereby the elite cannot simply decide to sever and go
> their ways without consequences. And our family health depends upon
> it. And whether anyone likes it or not, we have a social tether that
> reaches back in time to our forebears. It is not completely OURS to
> own in the now, but only serve as temporary adjunct to the future,
> from our past. Severing ties strikes deeper than most of us
> understand well IMHO.

The problem is that the "social tethers," the "unwritten social
contracts" and indeed the unity you mention have all been breaking down
for a long time --- since the dawn of civilization. The advent of
civilization --- the rise of cities --- brought forth the individual
consciousness, and sounded the death knell for tribal consciousness.
Tribal consciousness involves a resonance of thought, a community of
interest and a collective identity. Members of tribal communities
identify themselves with their group; they have no individual identity to
speak of --- nothing that distinguishes them from other members of their
tribe except such physical characteristics as sex, age, and appearance.
They have no differences in beliefs, opinions, tastes, interests,
histories, or ways of doing things. In all such matters, they are all "of
one mind." They do not argue about religion, ethics, aesthetics,
politics, rearing of the young, or the best way to shape a spear point.

But that resonance can only be maintained in small groups --- groups in
which all members are in direct and continuous interaction with all other
members. When a community becomes too large to permit those 1 to 1
relationships among all members --- when it becomes "unsaturated" --- the
resonance breaks down; differences between people begin to appear. At
that point, social life begins to change: it can no longer be assumed
that anyone you encounter will be "just like you" in every important way.
The larger the community becomes, the more and greater the differences
--- the more "strangers" one encounters. Eventually your own identity
becomes personal, not tribal --- you define yourself in terms, not only
of those qualities you share with others in your group, but also in terms
of the *differences* between you and others you encounter.

Tribal identity doesn't disappear during this process. The individual can
still maintain affinities with his own ethnic or religious or tribal
group. But he now does so *as an individual* --- he is now attuned, not
only to his similarities with certain others, but *also his differences
from them*.

This, in turn, leads to new kinds of groupings --- interest groupings.
People find they have similarities with certain other people, not based
on their ethnicity or ancestry ot religion, but on certain common
interests, such as an interest in music, or in carpentry, or
metalworking, or horse breeding, or poetry. And they find their
opportunities for cooperation with others are greatly enlarged if they
take advantage of those commonalities, even if the others differ
ethnically or worship different gods.

> As I took my own education out on the street and 'witnessed' what was
> being done to my own country, my own land rich of the heritage of my
> father's fathers struggles, I started to realize the grand 'sell out'
> multiculturism and globalization was.

If you live in the US, that is a peculiarly surprising complaint, given
that the USA is the paradigm of a multicultural society. There has not
been a monoculture in North America since shortly after the founding of
the colonies. The original English Puritan settlers were joined almost
immediately by Anglicans, Catholics, Irish, Scots, Germans, and French,
not to mention the native Indians and the African slaves. During the
following centuries they were joined by Italians, Poles, Scandinavians,
and Chinese. All these intermingled ethnicities produced many clashes and
hostilities --- but eventually they settled into an equilibrium. Why?
Because it was to everyone's advantage to do so. The only "heritage" they
all had in common was a common attraction and commitment to individual
liberty.

The founders envisioned America as a "beacon of liberty" and refuge for
the oppressed for the entire world. They did not envision it as a haven
or a homeland for any particular ethnic group.

> The rational mind had become alienated from the masses...no longer
> able to understand the most fundamental trait of human forte...our
> 'spirit'.

I think you are mis-identifying the driving spirit of liberalism. It is
not tribal identity, or tribal cohesion. It is individual liberty --- the
liberty of each person to decide for himself with whom he will associate,
and with whom he will make common cause --- with which "tribes" or
interest groups he will identify. You fail to appreciate that the
"multiculturalism" you lament is occurring because individual people are
individually choosing to buy Italian shoes and Japanese automobiles and
Chinese sweaters.

Multiculturalism occurs whenever an Italian eats some sushi, and a
Japanese eats a pizza. Whenever a Mexican eats a Big Mac and an American
eats a taco; whenever a Russian reads Shakespeare and an Englishman reads
Tolstoy. No one is compelling those choices. But complaints about
"multiculturalism" always have an undercurrent of compulsion. Liberalism
does not prevent anyone from associating with any ethnic group they wish,
or identifying themselves with any group they wish. But for chauvinists,
that is not enough. They wish to deploy the coercive power of the State
to prevent others from associating or dealing with the persons *they*
wish to deal with. The chauvinist seeks, in a word, to impose his own
interests, tastes, and affinities on others who do not share them.

The tribal consciousness is extinct, Tooly. It has been extinct for
several millennia. It cannot be resurrected. All that remains to those
who still long for it is some version of totalitarianism. But a social
unity that can only be maintained by force is not tribal unity; it is a
false unity. It is only a brutal substitute.

[Topaz]

Liberalism and Our Universities

By Shaun Walker.

Liberalism is a strange thing. On the one hand, purely on a
philosophical level, it has its attractions: just think how nice
everything would be if every person on earth were compatible with
each other; if everyone meant well; if everyone shared the same
values; if there were indeed no differences at all between people
that were even worth worrying about. Such a society would
actually be quite nice to live in.

Imagine a place where the educational system did not withhold
facts from you because the teaching authorities did not like
those facts. Imagine a place where it was safe to walk down any
street, anywhere, anytime. Imagine a society where everyone was
prosperous; where there was no exploitation of any sort. Imagine
a society where everyone shared the same good standard of living.
Imagine a society where everyone was always allowed to do their
best, where there were no conmen, no people with any ill intent
at all. Imagine that. Yes, that would be a nice society.

But as I said right at the beginning, liberalism is a strange
thing. It holds up a seemingly nice ideal, but it fails to take
into account the realities of the world. It is an illusion, built
on what some people would like the world to be, rather than what
is.

And this is why liberalism is all too often fatal -- deadly to
its believers and others unfortunate enough to be caught up in
the dream world which liberalism creates.

One of the foremost examples of this sort of insanity was the
case of Amy Biehl. Even though Dr. Pierce discussed her on a
previous American Dissident Voices broadcast in September 1998,
it is worthwhile to delve into the full details here again, as
they reveal much about this social cancer called liberalism. For
those listeners that don't remember, or who didn't hear that
broadcast, Amy Biehl was an American girl who graduated from
Stanford in 1989, and she received a Fulbright Scholarship to
study in South Africa.

Amy was, by all accounts, a bright girl, born to a typical upper
middle class American family. Blond, blue-eyed and pretty, she
could easily have been the typical "California Blond" (although
those are becoming rarer these days, but that's another topic).

Instead, apparently through her parents, Amy became infected with
the disease of liberalism. She became a member of the National
Democratic Institute for International Affairs.

In Amy's world, there were no differences between the races; in
Amy's world, there were no horrible people, just people who had
been misled, and who, once shown the truth, would become good at
the drop of a hat. In Amy's world, everything was fine and good,
if only we worked at it hard enough. And so when she graduated
from Stanford, she caused a stir by writing in chalk "Free
Mandela" on the top of her graduation cap, bowing to the audience
at an appropriate moment during the ceremony.

Within a few years, her dedication to the anti-Apartheid cause
resulted in her move to South Africa, to start work helping the
ANC prepare for the first all race elections in 1994. In Amy's
world, there were no bad Black people, only a few bad White
people, and they too would likely change their opinion if they
could only see how good Black people were.

With those liberal beliefs, Amy began spending more and more time
in the Black townships of South Africa, hob-knobbing it with
leading ANC activists, helping to register voters, and generally
trying to be the all round nice person that she believed everyone
else was.

And, so it was that on the 25th of August, 1993, that the
26-year-old Amy was driving some of her wonderful Black friends
to their homes in a township outside Cape Town. It is important
for listeners to remember, that by this time Apartheid had been
dismantled, the ANC was a legitimate organization in South
Africa, and their so-called 'armed struggle' had been formally
stopped. There was, in other words, no reason for violence.

Amy's White face stood out in the township, and it was not long
before her car came under attack by a large mob of Blacks. Stones
were thrown which smashed the windscreen and side windows of her
car. One of the stones hit Amy on her head, causing her to bleed
profusely. Unable to drive any further, she stopped the car and
staggered out, dripping blood in the road, to a filling station,
perhaps there hoping to find help of some sort. None came; her
attackers pursued her and continued throwing stones at the White
woman, ignoring the Blacks in her car. They wanted to kill the
White woman, not because of what she had done, but because she
was White.

One of the attackers tripped Amy, causing her to fall. While
lying on the ground, the crowd continued to stone her. One of the
attackers drew a knife and plunged it into her heart, while she
was lying barely moving on the floor. The knife was withdrawn,
and then plunged further three times into her chest. By now her
head had been smashed open by repeated blows with a brick. In the
Negroes brains, the White woman had to die, and she did, begging
for mercy, begging not to be killed. It was a pathetic, lonely
and frightening death. Amy Biehl was murdered in a brutal fashion
because she was White, not for any other reason. Her death
symbolizes the reality check which always, always, destroys the
liberal myth.

Now, one would think, this would surely be more than enough for
most people. Surely, one would think, that this would be enough
to teach even the most well-meaning person that there was
something more in the world than the rosy tint which liberalism
puts on everything.

But no, this is where the disease of liberalism really becomes
gangrenous in nature. Amy's parents, Peter and Linda Biehl, then
flew to South Africa to meet her murderers, who had in the
interim been arrested. The famous meeting between the senior
Biehls and their daughter's murders took place in 1998 before
South Africa's infamous "Truth Commission," at which they were
all granted amnesty for the murder of Amy Biehl.

Biehl Sr. read a poem to the Black youths who had stabbed and
stoned his daughter to death, and then actually embraced these
murderous scum. They said this was Amy's "vision of forgiveness
and reconciliation that we have honored."

The parents then started a foundation in Amy's name: a foundation
-- you guessed it -- dedicated to helping Blacks in South Africa.
The disease spread, outliving its victim. Today, there is even a
school in New Mexico named after Amy, dedicated to what it calls
'social justice.'

Amy's parents have been paraded back-and-forth in America in a
hand-wringing liberal fest, all trying to outdo each other in
honoring the very misguided, liberal girl who was murdered
because she was White.

Those of us, who are not liberals, stand back aghast. We cannot
even contemplate forgiving the murders of one of our children,
much less embracing them and then spending the rest of our days
trying to help them. Hell no, most decent people would actually
want revenge!

And now the thought enters our minds: What is wrong with people
such as the Biehls? How could they have gone so far off the track
that not only have they raised their own child to be openly
anti-White, to be openly working against her very own interests,
but now that this evil delusion has seen her brutally murdered,
they carry on by pushing the same cause even further than before?
Is there hope for these people?

Sadly, the Biehls are not alone. How many times have we seen
liberals, when confronted with the obvious failure of racial
integration, in schools, residential suburbs, in the workplace
and elsewhere, dismiss these failures as being due to alleged
"White racism."

The problem, these seemingly insane people tell us, is not racial
integration, but rather that there is too little integration. We
need more for this problem to be solved, they tell us, and always
ignoring the fact that it might be the very 'medicine' which they
prescribe which is the cause of the problem in the first place.

But it was not always like this. Liberals are the end result of
60 or 70 years of academic 'reeducation,' as carried out by the
largely Jewish school of anthropology and sociology at our
institutions of higher learning.

A hundred years ago, liberal academics were almost unknown.
Academic study was based on academics, not on dreams of what the
world should ideally be like. Take for example, the famous
Encyclopedia Britannica's 11th edition, published in 1911, which
was the product of the finest minds at the University of
Cambridge in the UK. The 1911 edition of the Encyclopedia
Britannica is still today held up as the standard by which all
encyclopedias are measured.

I would like to read verbatim, extracts from the entry under
"Negro" in the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica. (The encyclopedia
is, by the way, online at:
http://77.1911encyclopedia.org/N/NE/NEGRO.htm)

This is what the White race's finest academic minds had to say
about the Negro in 1911:

"NEGRO (from Lat. niger, black), in anthropology, the designation
of the distinctly dark-skinned, as opposed to the fair, yellow,
and brown variations of mankind. . . Mentally the negro is
inferior to the white. The remark of F. Manetta, made after a
long study of the negro in America, may be taken as generally
true of the whole race: 'the negro children were sharp,
intelligent and full of vivacity, but on approaching the adult
period a gradual change set in. The intellect seemed to become
clouded, animation giving place to a sort of lethargy, briskness
yielding to indolence.'

We must necessarily suppose that the development of the negro and
white proceeds on different lines. While with the latter the
volume of the brain grows with the expansion of the brainpan, in
the former the growth of the brain is on the contrary arrested by
the premature closing of the cranial sutures and lateral pressure
of the frontal bone.

This explanation is reasonable and even probable as a
contributing cause; but evidence is lacking on the subject and
the arrest or even deterioration in mental development is no
doubt very largely due to the fact that after puberty sexual
matters take the first place in the negro's life and thoughts. At
the same time his environment has not been such as would tend to
produce in him the restless energy which has led to the progress
of the white race; and the easy conditions of tropical life and
the fertility of the soil have reduced the struggle for existence
to a minimum. But though the mental inferiority of the negro to
the white or yellow races is a fact, it has often been
exaggerated; the negro is largely the creature of his
environment, and it is not fair to judge of his mental capacity
by tests taken directly from the environment of the white man, as
for instance tests in mental arithmetic; skill in reckoning is
necessary to the white race, and it has cultivated this faculty;
but it is not necessary to the negro.

On the other hand negroes far surpass white men in acuteness of
vision, hearing, sense of direction and topography. A native who
has once visited a particular locality will rarely fail to
recognize it again. For the rest, the mental constitution of the
negro is very similar to that of a child, normally good-natured
and cheerful, but subject to sudden fits of emotion and passion
during which he is capable of performing acts of singular
atrocity, impressionable, vain, but often exhibiting in the
capacity of servant a dog-like fidelity which has stood the
supreme test.

Given suitable training, the negro is capable of becoming a
craftsman of considerable skill, particularly in metal work,
carpentry and carving. The bronze castings by the tire perdue
process, and the cups and horns of ivory elaborately carved,
which were produced by the natives of Guinea after their
intercourse with the Portuguese of the i6th century, bear ample
witness to this. But the rapid decline and practical evanescence
of both industries, when that intercourse was interrupted, shows
that the native craftsman was raised for the moment above his
normal level by direct foreign inspiration, and was unable to
sustain the high quality of his work when that inspiration
failed.

Cannibalism is found in its simplest form in Africa. In that
continent the majority of cannibal tribes eat human flesh because
they like it, and not from any magical motive or from lack of
other animal food. In fact it is noticeable that the tribes most
addicted to this practice inhabit just those districts where game
is most plentiful. Among the true negroes it is confined mainly
to the Welle and Ubangi districts, though found sporadically (and
due to magical motives) on the west coast, and among the Bantu
negroids in the south-western part of Belgian Congo and-the
Gabon.

Pottery-making is almost universal, though nowhere has it reached
a very advanced stage; the wheel is unknown.

A characteristic feature of the western culture area, among both
negro and Bantu negroid tribes, is the belief that any form of
death except by violence must be due to evil magic exercised by,
or through the agency of, some human individual; to discover the
guilty party the poison ordeal is freely used. A similar form of
ordeal is found in British Central Africa, to discover magicians,
and the wholesale 'smelling-out' of 'witches,' often practiced
for political reasons, is a well-known feature of the culture of
the Zulu-Xosa tribes."

That was the opinion of academics then. By 1966, a mere 50 years
later, the Encyclopedia Britannica had completely excised all
references to Negro intellectual ability and lack of cultural
achievement, and had contained only a physical description of
Negroes, nothing more. The question which immediately springs to
mind now is what on earth has happened to academia in the past 70
years? How could our finest academic minds go from telling such
hard-hitting racial truths to saying nothing at all?

The cause of this turnaround is the exact same thing that led Amy
Biehl to her death: an infectious social cancer has taken hold,
and subverted the Western World, the disease of liberalism. And
as you know, infectious diseases are caused by bacteria or a
virus: a foreign antigen. And the virus which infected Western
Academia, and which has sapped it to its core, came in the form
of a Jew by the name of Franz Boas.

Boas is the grandfather of modern anthropology and was the first
to actively promote the idea that race did not exist and was
merely a 'social construct' not found in nature. Boas' influence
on the 20th Century ranks alongside that of his fellow Jewish
tribesmen, Karl Marx and Sigmund Freud. As a professor at
Columbia from 1899 to 1942, he virtually created modern
anthropology, and the students he trained -- almost all Jews --
went on to spread his poison throughout the Western World.

Boas' students included the most famous names of modern
anthropology: Frank Speck, who founded the anthropology
department at the University of Pennsylvania; Edward Sapir, who
developed the anthropology program at the University of Chicago;
Alexander Goldenweiser, who started the anthropology program at
the New School for Social Research; Leslie Spier, who started the
anthropology program at the University of Washington; Melville
Herskovits who started the anthropology program at Northwestern
University; and Esther Goldfrank, who traveled with Boas to New
Mexico in 1919 to conduct research among the Pueblo Indians. Boas
strongly influenced the French Jew Claude Lévi-Strauss, who
developed structuralism as a method of interpreting culture.
Several of Boas's students went on to serve as editors of the
American Anthropological Association's flagship journal, American
Anthropologist.

In 1912, Boas published his most famous work -- a study which
claimed to show that the skull shapes of the descendants of
European immigrants to the United States altered from those of
the original immigrants. This study served to lay the foundation
for modern liberalism's greatest pillar: that there were no real
fixed different racial and ethnic types as far as physical
characteristics went. It was the start of the 'nurture rules over
nature' argument; an argument which was to form the basis of the
attack on racial realism and science from then till now because
Boas' argument claimed they changed according to environmental
circumstances like climate or diet or even, he asserted,
gynecological or swaddling practices.

Here was the start of the disease: the academic world had been
infiltrated by a Marxist-sympathizing Jew who, with the aid of
his network of fellow religionists, succeeded in turning the
academic world on its head and moving it from racial realism to
racial fantasy.

Boas' influence cannot be underestimated: the environmental
theory of racial development still holds sway to this day, and
was most recently exemplified in the books Guns, Germs and Steel
and Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed, written by
the Jew Jared Diamond. Both these works, which are now being
studied at universities and colleges across the Western World,
claim exactly as Boas did, that environment alone determines
racial achievement and not a race's inherent make-up.

It matters nothing that a 2002 study at the University of
Pennsylvania showed that Boas had manufactured his findings and
they were not supported by the measurements taken during the
course of his original study. The damage had been done and that
was the intention.

The disease entered the academic community, and from there it
spread through society. Today, American students who are only
exposed to these Jewish lies become in denial on the subject of
race. Slowly but surely -- over a period of decades -- these
Jewish infiltrators drove out truth in anthropology, in history,
in sociology, and replaced it with their version. This liberal
version is the impossibility of equality, mixed with malevolence,
lies and intolerance for other opinions. This is all packaged up
and called "liberalism."

Now it is ironic that most liberals are in fact the most
intolerant of all people on earth. Listeners might know for
example, the horror story of Ernst Zundel -- imprisoned for over
three years without trial, by the so-called liberal democracies
of Canada and Germany. But Ernst Zundel is not the only case:
thousands of German patriots have been imprisoned over the years
for daring to think or write things with which the "liberal
democracies" did not agree. This phenomenon is not limited to
Germany either, but is widespread across all of Europe. They even
have laws which state that truth is no defense, even if what
someone says is the truth, they are still fined or imprisoned for
saying it in public.

Even here in the USA, people are victimized for saying things
which liberals do not like: people lose their jobs, their
incomes, are railroaded out of schools and colleges as punishment
for daring to dissent with the great liberal lie.

The liberal is, we can conclude, a seriously mentally ill person,
who suffers from a schizophrenic condition. On the one hand, the
liberal says everyone is equal, and there must be freedom for
all. But on the other hand, if anyone dares venture an opinion
with which they differ, especially on the topics of race or Jews,
then those same liberals are the first to argue in favor of
depriving that person of their civil liberties such as freedom of
speech or association. In short, liberals appear to be quite
genuinely crazy, and at the same time, their openly stated
desires are tyrannical.

After so many years of studying liberals, we are forced to the
conclusion that, with only a few exceptions, they cannot be
cured. Their brainwashing has apparently caused some hardwiring
within the brain to go haywire; and to bring any mental health to
them will require them to actually disengage from the mental
disease which has engulfed them.

Politically speaking, liberals have to be written off. And as
terrible as it sounds, the only way we will be rid of the worst
afflicted, that is the Liberal Orthodoxy, is when they immolate
themselves on their own lies, similar to what happened to Amy
Biehl. We must not waste our time trying to teach let alone
recruit liberals. We must aim our recruiting efforts at the
youth, at those people without a strong opinion either way and
those that have similar beliefs as ours.

These are our target group, and there are millions and millions
of them. We can break though the conspiracy of liberal lies. All
we need is enough dedicated activists who are prepared to put all
their available time and effort into saving their race and
nation.

In this battle, each and every person who cares about their
race's future, about the future which faces their children and
grandchildren, has a holy duty to take up the challenge. Join
with us in this holy quest.

[minus]

> This is what the White race's finest academic minds had to say
> about the Negro in 1911:
>
>
> "NEGRO (from Lat. niger, black), in anthropology, the designation
> of the distinctly dark-skinned, as opposed to the fair, yellow,
> and brown variations of mankind. . . Mentally the negro is
> inferior to the white. The remark of F. Manetta, made after a
> long study of the negro in America, may be taken as generally
> true of the whole race: 'the negro children were sharp,
> intelligent and full of vivacity, but on approaching the adult
> period a gradual change set in. The intellect seemed to become
> clouded, animation giving place to a sort of lethargy, briskness
> yielding to indolence.'

Do you realize how stupid you appear when you have to go back 94 years
in time to find an expert's quote to back you up?

You mean the slaves and their first generation children seemed to
racist experts to be inferior in some way to whites?

Wow, that proves it. I'm convinced.

Where do I sign up for the hate?

[Topaz]

The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
people in India.

All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke. Here is an example:

"One of the most powerful direct studies of race and environment
was conducted by psychologists Sandra Scarr, Richard Weinberg and I.
D. Waldman. All three were quite well-known for their environmental
opinions. The study analyzed White, Black, and Mixed-race adopted
children in more than 100 White families in Minnesota. The study was
an egalitarian's dream, because the children's adoptive parents had
prestigious levels of income and education and were anti-racist enough
to adopt a Black child into their own family. Scarr is a strong
defender of racial equality and maintained that environment played an
almost exclusive role in IQ differences between the races. Scarr
supports the importance of heredity in causing individual differences
within a race, but she has argued that between-race differences are
mostly environmental.

The children in the study included Whites, Blacks, and Mulattos as
well as the biological children of the White adoptive couples. At the
age of 7, the children were tested for IQ, and all of the groups
including the Blacks and Mulattos, scored above average in IQ. Scarr
and Weinberg published a paper claiming to have proven the almost
exclusive power of environment over race in IQ, even though they had
to admit that the White children, whether adopted or not, scored well
above the Black and Mulatto children and that the Mulatto children
scored above the Blacks. (88)

A decade later, when the children reached the age of 17, a
follow-up study was conducted that that again included IQ
measurements. As they matured, Black children had dropped back to an
average of 89 in IQ, which is the average IQ for Blacks in the region
of the United States where the study was done. The White adopted
children scored an average of 106 in IQ, 17 points higher than the
Black children, which is consistant with traditional studies of Black
and White IQ differences. In line with genetic theory the half-White,
half-Black Mulatto adopted children scored almost exactly between the
adopted Whites and Blacks. (89)

RESULTS OF MINNESOTA TRANSRACIAL ADOPTION STUDY

IQ

Parental IQ 115.35
Biological Children 109.4
White Adopted children 105.6
Mulatto parents adopted children 98.5
Black parents adopted children 89.4

Scarr and Wienberg reluctantly published their data from the
follow up survey, but they waited close to four years to do so, almost
as if they were embarrassed by what they had found. Through a tortured
reasoning process, they still argued that environment played a
dominant role in IQ. But in their follow-up survey, unlike their first
paper, they also admitted that genes had an important impact as well.
Both Richard Lynn and Michael Levin effectively showed in their
re-analysis of Scarr's own data, that genes clearly comprise the
dominant role in intelligence levels of those adopted children. (90)
(91)"

(88) Scarr, S, & Weinberg R. A. (1976). IQ Test Perfomance of Black
Children Adopted By White Families. American Psychologist. Vol. 31.
p.26-739

(89) Weinberg, R. A. , Scarr, S., & Waldman, I. D. (1992). The
Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study. A Follow-Up of IQ Test
Performance at Adolescence, Intelligence. Vol 16.
p.17-135

(90) Lynn, R. (1994). Reinterpretations Of The Minnesota Transracial
Adoption Study. Intelligence. Vol. 19. p.1-27

(91) Levin, M. (1994). Comment on The Minnesota Transracial Adoption
Study. Intelligence Vol. 19. p.3-20

[Turtoni]

Monoculturalism is a mixture of many cultures and there will be a total
global monoculture at some point in the future.

[Wordsmith]

We're well on our way.

W : )

[minus]

Topaz,
let's say your these studies are correct. Let's say their idea of
intelligence is correct and not limited and cultural factors have been
removed.

Why separate the races?
Let's just give people intelligence tests and let the smart ones hang
out. Smart whites, Japanese, blacks, hispanics, etc. Even if your
results are correct, they represent bell curves. There will be smart
and stupid members of all groups. Even racists will have some clever
people, though giving intelligence tests to the members of the various
groups David Duke is supported by might be rather disappointing for
you.

You might find that racists tend to score lower on intelligence tests.
They might find themselves in the shantytowns with other 'out' groups.

Willing to gamble?

Topaz skrev:

[Brian Fletcher]

"Turtoni" <tur...@alt.philosophy> wrote in message

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> Monoculturalism is a mixture of many cultures and there will be a total
> global monoculture at some point in the future.

The dividing lines will still be there regardless of the "state of the mega
nation". Those lines being that of the individual consciousness.

"They" will still gather in clusters to compensate for their "yet to be
realised" state.

Puts a new meaning into the phrase "ther state your'e in".....:-)

BOfL

[fluidly unsure]

Turtoni wrote:
> Monoculturalism is a mixture of many cultures and there will be a total
> global monoculture at some point in the future.

I don't think so.

mon·o·cul·ture Pronunciation (mn-klchr)
n.
1. The cultivation of a single crop on a farm or in a region or country.
2. A single, homogeneous culture without diversity or dissension.
- The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language

>
>

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[Turtoni]

"fluidly unsure" <drip...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:DzIgf.17085$D13....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...

> Turtoni wrote:
>> Monoculturalism is a mixture of many cultures and there will be a total
>> global monoculture at some point in the future.
>
> I don't think so.
>
> mon·o·cul·ture Pronunciation (mn-klchr)
> n.
> 1. The cultivation of a single crop on a farm or in a region or country.
> 2. A single, homogeneous culture without diversity or dissension.

Every culture has history..

[Turtoni]

>> Monoculturalism is a mixture of many cultures and there will be a total
>> global monoculture at some point in the future.

> BofL:

> The dividing lines will still be there regardless of the "state of the
> mega nation". Those lines being that of the individual consciousness.

True.

> "They" will still gather in clusters to compensate for their "yet to be
> realised" state.

Yes "we" do. Nicely put.

> Puts a new meaning into the phrase "ther state your'e in".....:-)

I imagine all the different countries well effectively become states at some
point.

And then Satan will rise. heh.

[Brian Fletcher]

"Turtoni" <tur...@alt.philosophy> wrote in message

news:krednbgyeNY...@comcast.com...

I prefer the term "Kal", best described as a trickster/headmaster. Spiritual
"individual" mutation only happens after confrontation.

In modern mythology, Skywalker meeting Vadar was a good illustration, with
Yoda "looking on".

BOfL

[Topaz]

On 21 Nov 2005 22:52:20 -0800, "minus"
<underwear...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Topaz,
>let's say your these studies are correct. Let's say their idea of
>intelligence is correct and not limited and cultural factors have been
>removed.
>
>Why separate the races?

To preserve the White race which has invented so much and done so
much. Compare Europe to Africa. If the White race is not preserved the
earth will be in a bad way.

>Let's just give people intelligence tests and let the smart ones hang
>out.

It would not be a good idea to have a nation of smart people. There
children might have to be deported if they are not smart. There is no
support for your ideas, while nationalism has a lot of followers. Why
would you have a problem with the White race being preserved?

[fluidly unsure]

Topaz wrote:
> On 21 Nov 2005 22:52:20 -0800, "minus"
> <underwear...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Topaz,
>>let's say your these studies are correct. Let's say their idea of
>>intelligence is correct and not limited and cultural factors have been
>>removed.
>>
>>Why separate the races?
>
>
> To preserve the White race which has invented so much and done so
> much. Compare Europe to Africa. If the White race is not preserved the
> earth will be in a bad way.
>

Why can't that be said about all races? Each has their pro's and con's.
In every case, we would lose something if they were eliminated.

>
>>Let's just give people intelligence tests and let the smart ones hang
>>out.
>
>
> It would not be a good idea to have a nation of smart people. There
> children might have to be deported if they are not smart. There is no
> support for your ideas, while nationalism has a lot of followers. Why
> would you have a problem with the White race being preserved?

"Nation of smart people": Are you talking about India or Japan? (Maybe
all asian races put together)

Which is smarter, a population with a steep bell curve (the indiv's are
close to the "average") or one that is flatter but extends further
(there is a greater influx inside the population with both smarter and
dumber indiv's)?

>
>
> http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
> http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com

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[Topaz]

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 02:30:13 GMT, fluidly unsure
<drip...@mailinator.com> wrote:

>
>Why can't that be said about all races? Each has their pro's and con's.
>In every case, we would lose something if they were eliminated.

The liberals refuse the face the facts. The Whites invented the cars
and the planes and everthing else. Look at any White nation compared
to any Black country. Iceland vs. Haiti for example. The fact is that
Whites are on average much more intelligent than Blacks. But we
shouldn't want any race to be eliminated. White nationalists want
Blacks to have their own nations. We want China to be Chinese etc.

>
>"Nation of smart people": Are you talking about India or Japan? (Maybe
>all asian races put together)

The difference between Asians and Whites on the IQ tests is
small, while the difference between Whites and Blacks is large.
Whites also invented everything. I believe that most of the IQ tests
are taken in the former White nations and the Asians who moved to
these countries are a cut above most of the Asians who were not as
ambitious. Anyway it doesn't matter. I am also for preserving the
Japanese and the Chinese races. They should have their own nations
just as we Whites should have ours. Liberals don't see any problem
with the Japanese and Chinese having their own nations. They only see
a problem when Whites have this. Then they endlessly promote
multi-culture and pluralism.

>
>Which is smarter, a population with a steep bell curve (the indiv's are
>close to the "average") or one that is flatter but extends further
>(there is a greater influx inside the population with both smarter and
>dumber indiv's)?
>

We should preserve the White race. Another thing is the White race
is very good looking.

[fluidly unsure]

Topaz wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 02:30:13 GMT, fluidly unsure
> <drip...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Why can't that be said about all races? Each has their pro's and con's.
>>In every case, we would lose something if they were eliminated.
>
>
> The liberals refuse the face the facts. The Whites invented the cars
> and the planes and everthing else. Look at any White nation compared
> to any Black country. Iceland vs. Haiti for example. The fact is that
> Whites are on average much more intelligent than Blacks. But we
> shouldn't want any race to be eliminated. White nationalists want
> Blacks to have their own nations. We want China to be Chinese etc.
>

My understanding is that America has brought about 80% of the
inventions/patents in the world for the last 50 years. But the America I
know is not exclusive to one race. So let's be more concerned about
US-bashing than claiming one race is better than others.

>>"Nation of smart people": Are you talking about India or Japan? (Maybe
>>all asian races put together)
>
>
> The difference between Asians and Whites on the IQ tests is
> small, while the difference between Whites and Blacks is large.
> Whites also invented everything. I believe that most of the IQ tests
> are taken in the former White nations and the Asians who moved to
> these countries are a cut above most of the Asians who were not as
> ambitious. Anyway it doesn't matter. I am also for preserving the
> Japanese and the Chinese races. They should have their own nations
> just as we Whites should have ours. Liberals don't see any problem
> with the Japanese and Chinese having their own nations. They only see
> a problem when Whites have this. Then they endlessly promote
> multi-culture and pluralism.

Doesn't the fact that the tests started in the west indicate an unfair
comparison?

I also discount the value of the IQ tests. (Or I would look dumb in
comparison to many Whites/Asians/blacks). I just used it because it is
considered a yard stick. Sorry about bring them into the conversation.

That is why I refuse to take the test. It would either result in
disappointment (too low a score) or arrogance (too high a score).

>
>
>>Which is smarter, a population with a steep bell curve (the indiv's are
>>close to the "average") or one that is flatter but extends further
>>(there is a greater influx inside the population with both smarter and
>>dumber indiv's)?
>>
>
> We should preserve the White race. Another thing is the White race
> is very good looking.

Preserve the white race? When there is a definite threat of genocide
(there are a few), we need to fight. The general blending that's
happening today, no. Mongrels aren't worse off than pedigrees, except in
dog contests.

Good looking? That is kind of subjective isn't it? And I tend to differ
a little.

Personally, I prefer the slightly darker skin tones of some latins, east
indians, persians and north Africans. But then, I don't hold it against
the extreme whites or blacks.

> http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
> http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com

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[Topaz]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 01:12:22 GMT, fluidly unsure
<drip...@mailinator.com> wrote:

>
>My understanding is that America has brought about 80% of the
>inventions/patents in the world for the last 50 years. But the America I
>know is not exclusive to one race. So let's be more concerned about
>US-bashing than claiming one race is better than others.

No, one race is more intellegent than others. The goal of the
American government and media is to destroy the White race. The
American government and media should be bashed. And the reason you
have such understandings is because the anti-White media is your only
source of information.

"I was listening to a speech that he gave in Sweden. You can listen at
the
Url below if ya want. http://www.davidduke.com/

Anyway, the guy made an analogy that sums it all up.

He said, lets look at Iceland. They have one of the worlds lowest
crime rates, and have some of the worlds highest test scores.

He then went on to say: Haiti is rich in natural resources, they have
great weather, beaches etc.. Yet its a murder, rape capital of the
world. etc, etc.

He went on to say: If we were to take all of the people from Haiti &
Move them to Iceland, Well, they would soon die.

Take those from Iceland and move them to Haiti and within one
generation Haiti would be paradise on earth.

He explained it better than I did. But you should get the gist of the
Iceland / Haiti analogy. Better yet, listen to the Stockholm speech
and hear it for yourself.."

Tommy

>

>Doesn't the fact that the tests started in the west indicate an unfair
>comparison?

Everything started in the west (was thought of by Whites). And no the
make the IQ tests with the goal of not having any unfairness.

>
>I also discount the value of the IQ tests. (Or I would look dumb in
>comparison to many Whites/Asians/blacks). I just used it because it is
>considered a yard stick. Sorry about bring them into the conversation.
>
>That is why I refuse to take the test. It would either result in
>disappointment (too low a score) or arrogance (too high a score).

Liberalism and Our Universities

By Shaun Walker.

This is what the White race's finest academic minds had to say

about the Negro in 1911:

"NEGRO (from Lat. niger, black), in anthropology, the designation
of the distinctly dark-skinned, as opposed to the fair, yellow,
and brown variations of mankind. . . Mentally the negro is
inferior to the white. The remark of F. Manetta, made after a
long study of the negro in America, may be taken as generally
true of the whole race: 'the negro children were sharp,
intelligent and full of vivacity, but on approaching the adult
period a gradual change set in. The intellect seemed to become
clouded, animation giving place to a sort of lethargy, briskness
yielding to indolence.'

We must necessarily suppose that the development of the negro and

>Preserve the white race? When there is a definite threat of genocide
>(there are a few), we need to fight.

There is and we do.

[fluidly unsure]

Topaz wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 01:12:22 GMT, fluidly unsure
> <drip...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
>
>>My understanding is that America has brought about 80% of the
>>inventions/patents in the world for the last 50 years. But the America I
>>know is not exclusive to one race. So let's be more concerned about
>>US-bashing than claiming one race is better than others.
>
>
> No, one race is more intellegent than others. The goal of the
> American government and media is to destroy the White race. The
> American government and media should be bashed. And the reason you
> have such understandings is because the anti-White media is your only
> source of information.
>
> "I was listening to a speech that he gave in Sweden. You can listen at
> the
> Url below if ya want. http://www.davidduke.com/

I won't. I have to admit, this is where I have a closed mind. There are
so few, but there are a few.

> Anyway, the guy made an analogy that sums it all up.
>
> He said, lets look at Iceland. They have one of the worlds lowest
> crime rates, and have some of the worlds highest test scores.
>
> He then went on to say: Haiti is rich in natural resources, they have
> great weather, beaches etc.. Yet its a murder, rape capital of the
> world. etc, etc.
>
> He went on to say: If we were to take all of the people from Haiti &
> Move them to Iceland, Well, they would soon die.

I just might also. (The environment is different enough to cause a problem)

> Take those from Iceland and move them to Haiti and within one
> generation Haiti would be paradise on earth.

How?

> He explained it better than I did. But you should get the gist of the
> Iceland / Haiti analogy. Better yet, listen to the Stockholm speech
> and hear it for yourself.."
>
> Tommy
>
>
>>Doesn't the fact that the tests started in the west indicate an unfair
>>comparison?
>
>
> Everything started in the west (was thought of by Whites). And no the
> make the IQ tests with the goal of not having any unfairness.

Off the top of my head I can think of a few that weren't;
Zero and many religions from India
Arithmetic came from Persia
I know many Medical achievements came from Latin America
Human civilization in Africa?

Then you put a black man in America and you get things like blood
transfusions, elevators, spread spectrum (with H. Lamar)

Then if you consider improvements (as important as inventions) try Asia.

so far so good

[snip]

> "NEGRO (from Lat. niger, black), in anthropology, the designation
> of the distinctly dark-skinned, as opposed to the fair, yellow,
> and brown variations of mankind. . . Mentally the negro is
> inferior to the white. The remark of F. Manetta, made after a
> long study of the negro in America, may be taken as generally
> true of the whole race: 'the negro children were sharp,
> intelligent and full of vivacity, but on approaching the adult
> period a gradual change set in. The intellect seemed to become
> clouded, animation giving place to a sort of lethargy, briskness
> yielding to indolence.'

I haven't seen any evidence of this. When I see mass dumbness, I see it
in more than just one place. But the ideas I had years ago where called
dumb/stupid and worse. So maybe it's mass immaturity and we just need to
wait.

Maybe it's a lack of understanding and intellectual lethargia on my part
and I should be defensive so I don't look as stupid as I say others are.

[spin]

>
> In this battle, each and every person who cares about their
> race's future, about the future which faces their children and
> grandchildren, has a holy duty to take up the challenge. Join
> with us in this holy quest.

Trying to hold someone's religious beliefs for ransom (do xyz or you'll
you'll...) is a red flag for me.

>>Preserve the white race? When there is a definite threat of genocide
>>(there are a few), we need to fight.
>
>
> There is and we do.

I see a few threats (Dr. Kamau Kambon for one), but they are a minority
of minorities.

Until it grows bigger, it's wise to kill the idea and leave the
messenger alone. (Without the idea, the messenger will die from obscurity.)

Since you are not interested in killing the source of the problems, I
take it you just want to pick a fight and don't really care about
anything else.

Who cares if xxx white men get killed in the process? Who cares if those
white men left are denied the achievements of the rest? Who cares, just
so long as you make it look like an honorable goal. I don't think you do.

I thought we agreed about some things since we are both anti-liberal.
But the negatives outweigh the positives greatly. You take the right
facts and come up with the wrong conclusions.

Thank you for closing my mind even more.

[snip]

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[tooly]

"minus" <underwear...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:1132642340.5...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> Topaz,
> let's say your these studies are correct. Let's say their idea of
> intelligence is correct and not limited and cultural factors have been
> removed.
>
> Why separate the races?
> Let's just give people intelligence tests and let the smart ones hang
> out. Smart whites, Japanese, blacks, hispanics, etc. Even if your
> results are correct, they represent bell curves. There will be smart
> and stupid members of all groups. Even racists will have some clever
> people, though giving intelligence tests to the members of the various
> groups David Duke is supported by might be rather disappointing for
> you.
>
> You might find that racists tend to score lower on intelligence tests.
> They might find themselves in the shantytowns with other 'out' groups.
>
> Willing to gamble?

to minus:
You live under false security. Today's thinker is readdressing the
realities of globalization, sifting back through their enculturations,
having to discard much of what has been taught them as being 'off the table'
for discussion...such as race. One observes immigration, just one issue of
many, and they find the real difficulties arise due to inability for some
groups to assimilate into certain cultures. Disparity is a real issue. A
sober mind will see that disparity is not one of economics, nor of classism,
nor of different cultures [per se], but exists fundamentally in the very
essence of the people's themselves; yes...race. Like it or not, the world
developed unevenly...and there were primitive peoples as well as advanced.

We should not necessarily assign better or worse [though each group would
logically and most naturally have a centrism of self identity based upon
their own group], but we DO need to recognize the disparity. Throwing the
third world into the midst of the industrialized western world is a formula
for disaster.