"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself" - Albert Einstein on God. was Re: Albert Einstein On Atheism

[fasgnadh]

raven1 tries to misrepresent Einstein:
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 22:41:30 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno<ajt...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> In the view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my
>> limited human mind, am able to recognise, there are yet
>> people who say there is no God. But what makes me really
>> angry is that they quote me for support for such views.
>> (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, p. 214)
>>
>> What separates me from most so-called atheists is a
>> feeling of utter humility toward the unattainable
>> secrets of the harmony of the cosmos.
>> (Albert Einstein to Joseph Lewis, Apr. 18, 1953)
>>
>> When the answer is simple, God is speaking. (Albert Einstein)
>
> "I do not believe in a personal God

Not every theist believes in a PERSONAL God, the God Einstein
believed in is not a personal God, but one which does
'reveal himself':


"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in
the orderly harmony of what exists,
not in a God who concerns himself with fates and
actions of human beings."

- Albert Einstein, New York Times, April 25, 1929



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The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it:


http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com.au/



- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012


http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm

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alt.atheism FAQ:

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/


http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source



"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)



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[ANN "MS" ROMNEY]

" I cannot conceive of a god who rewards and punishes

his creatures or has a will of the kind we experience

in ourselves. Neither can I—nor would I want to—

conceive of an individual that survives his physical

death. Let feeble souls, from fear or absurd egotism,

cherish such thoughts. I am satisfied with the

mystery of the eternity of life and a glimpse of the

marvelous structure of the existing world, together with

the devoted striving to comprehend a portion, be it

ever so tiny, of the Reason that manifests itself in

nature."


-- Albert Einstein

[DonH]

"fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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# Albert Einstein was Jewish, and no doubt his monotheistic faith lingered
on, long after he had really moved away from it.
This can be a typical individual evolution of ideas, as theist moves to
deist, then pantheist, and, finally and reluctantly, atheist.
If gods, goddesses, God, simply fail to reveal themselves, do we continue
to believe in them?
So, will "fasgnadh"'s strenuous efforts to equate Atheism with Ultimate
Evil, succeed? Or will the continued absence of God catch up with him? (He
is already Agnostic.)
As philosopher David Hume observed: he did not know of any argument by
religionists which did not glide from fact (does God exist?) to morality
(the greater virtue of the Faithful).
Meanwhile, Wars of Religion continue to rage. Will Copts survive the New
Egypt?

[Uirgil]

What Einstein says about theism is:

On 22 March 1954 Einstein received a letter from J. Dispentiere, an
Italian immigrant who had worked as an experimental machinist in New
Jersey. Dispentiere had declared himself an atheist and was despaired by
a news report which had cast Einstein as conventionally religious.
Einstein replied on 24 March 1954:
It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious
convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated.
I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied
this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me
which can be called religious then it is the unbounded
admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science
can reveal it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein's_religious_views


And fasgnadh is one of those who lies about Einstein's position on
religion.

[dolf]

Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c² [9(9²+1)/2]

If the circumference of the circle is PI (or rational PI).

What is the centre?

How should we the Free, Celebrate this the Queen's Jubilee?

We are not free and endure human rights abuses from catholic dogs.

"We have Jesus on the cross
Your cold love put him there.
What is now your human loss?
Forever gone and despair."

What gives BroilJAB (Design...@wmconnect.com) away is his unusual
capacity as a claimed atheist, to call the Pontiff holy when he is in
fact perverse.

It would appear that once again, we have mongrel catholic dogs engaged
in public campaigns of disinformation and vilification of the truth,
which diminishes our human rights.

dolf: “Wasn’t the Pope recently asked on: ‘Creationists need [for a]
Catholic vision’?”



BroilJAB (Design...@wmconnect.com): “Lets hope the Holy Pontiff
sets many creationists back on the right path.”



Vurgil or Uirgit? (vur...@arg.erg / uir...@uirgil.ur): “It would be a
great improvement.”



dolf: “He knows Greedy!”



BroilJAB (Design...@wmconnect.com): “From what I understand.”



Vurgil or Uirgit? (vur...@arg.erg / uir...@uirgil.ur): “Which is nothing!”



dolf: “Is it painful? 

Very soon being Roman Catholic will be prima
facie proof of guilt in claims of crimes against the dignity of the
'Sovereign Autonomy' made under the Commonwealth of Australia.”



#20 / .jackNote@zen: 5, row: 3, col: 3, nous: 7 [Super: #397 / #46 -
Guiding Contentment, Moderation of Desire; I-Ching: H1 - Creative
Principle/Heaven; Tetra: 37 - Purity, Ego: #403 / #7 - Intentional
Reversal, Dimming Radiance; I-Ching: H12 - Stagnation; Tetra: 56 -
Closed Mouth] {Transforming Nature {DOUBLE: Form of Nature {Autonomous
Nature}}}

In relation to this notion of The Decade is the meaning of Yom Kippur as
a ritual of nullification held over a 10 day period commencing a new
Moon on 18 September 2001 (as my particular interest for synchronising
the centre of the Grapple Temporal / Noumenal Reality for a 5 day period
being #41 on 13 September 2001 as a centrifugal model comprising septet
#369 magic squares with the solar / lunar chronological cycle and
rational representation of PI / ENNEAD) and the Dead Sea Scroll
chronological principle which is a cosmological straight line--hence
transcendent--in having a starting point on the Equinox of Wednesday 20
March 1996 with a new Moon on Thursday 21 March for a base 7 Numbering
system intrinsic to the cosmogony as rational representation of PI.

In that for 3 x 364 days = 1092 days there was a lunar/solar comparison
of 3 x 354 lunar years + 30 days = 1092 days. There are in a cycle of 5
x 364 days + 182 days (as a 1/2 cycle) two fragments in the Dead Sea
Scroll relics related to the 1st day of the 7th solar month as occurring
on 12 September 2001 and the 21st priestly course starting on Sunday 16
September 2001 which fragment also brings together an association of the
solar and lunar cycles which appear to have been a readily observable
phenomenon.

In that this has according to the Dead Sea Scrolls, a reprise in a 294 x
364 day years as 6 Jubilees or 293 x 365.2423 days (just short of the
tropical years, but technologically better than the Julian calendar of
365.25 days instigated in 45 BCE and reformed in 1582 CE (1751 CE in
British Empire) by the Gregorian calendar reforms due to an
intercalation error resulting in a lost of synchronicity comprising a
magnitude loss of one day every 128 years. This forms the basis for
arguing a metaphysical and cosmological origin of language as 22
elements of the Hebrew letters which is otherwise shown geometrically as
an indestructible object (atom) in the association of the 10 as Decade
(as Greek and Ennead as Egyptian notions) and counts (number) and the 22
letters as 3 horizontal (Mother letters), 7 vertical lines (Double
letters) and 12 diagonal lines (Single letters):

Kabbalistic Tree of Life

ATZILUTH {1st as “World of Emanation” also known as Olam Atzilut, עולם
אצילות in Hebrew}

BRIYAH {2nd as “World of Creation” also known as Olam Briyah, עולם בריאה
in Hebrew}

YETZIRAH {3rd as “World of Formation” also known as Olam Yetsirah, עולם
יצירה in Hebrew}

ASSIYAH {4th as “World of Action” also known as Olam Asiyah, עולם עשיה
in Hebrew}

- http://www.grapple369.com/index_files/tree.gif
- http://www.grapple369.com/index_files/yetziratic_wheel.png

This is Chaldean / Babylonian in Origins: Hebrew letters as described in
the “Sefer Yetzirah”

YETZIRAH as in “Making" is as opposed to BRIYAH as in "Creating"
Actually taking whatever matter that was created in the BRIYAH and
shaping it into the basic elements.

It is also possible to divide the number of days in 400 years in the
Gregorian calendar reforms as 146,097 days by 7 and that when made
divisible by 22 to obtain the remainder, and to arrange the Hebrew
letters in a pattern which has a remainder of #13 as being in the middle
of the Chinese 2 BCE published DAO TE CHING / I CHING division of the
year into 364.5 days and the Jewish Kabbalah equivalent which deployed a
magic square of #369 having a distinct mathematical property at centre
of #41 for the equivalent date of 13 September.

#0 MOD 22 = 22 [#TAU / #400] as 4000 BCE
#400 MOD 22 = 17 [#PE / #80]
#800 MOD 22 = 12 [#LAMED / #30]
#1200 MOD 22 = 7 [#ZAYIN / #7]
#1600 MOD 22 = 2 [#BETH / #2]
#2000 MOD 22 = 19 [#QOPH / #100]
#2400 MOD 22 = 14 [#NUN / #50]
#2800 MOD 22 = 9 [#TETH / #9]
#3200 MOD 22 = 4 [#DALETH / #4]
#3600 MOD 22 = 21 [#SHIN / #300]
#4000 MOD 22 = 16 [#'AYIN / #70] = #0 CE as HETEROS (MALE/FEMALE
MARRIAGE -- WHAT IS SIN & WICKEDNESS?) autonomic transformative
prototype and symbolic associator to the series #15 CE, #34 CE, #65 CE,
#111 CE, #175 CE, #260 CE, #369 CE ... #2000 Y2K
#4400 MOD 22 = 11 [#KAF / #20] = #400 CE
#4800 MOD 22 = 6 [#VAV / #6] = #800 CE
#5200 MOD 22 = 1 [#ALEPH / #1] = #1200 CE
#5600 MOD 22 = 18 [#TSADE / #90] = #1600 CE
#6000 MOD 22 = 13 [#MEM / #40] = #2000 Y2K / Equinox of DATE(1996,3,20)
+ (5 * 364) + 182 days = Wednesday DATE(2001,9,12) with Equinox of
Saturday DATE(2001,9,23) commencing the Sabbath year of 'oth cycle

- http://www.grapple369.com/index_files/toth9.gif

#6400 MOD 22 = 8 [#CHET / #8]
#6800 MOD 22 = 3 [#GIMEL / #3]
#7200 MOD 22 = 20 [#RESH / #200]
#7600 MOD 22 = 15 [#SAMEK / #60]
#8000 MOD 22 = 10 [#YOD / #10]
#8400 MOD 22 = 5 [#HE / #5]
#8800 MOD 22 = 22 [#TAU / #400] as 8800 CE

In many instances, the Torah also uses words and phrases in ways that
cannot be understood in their literal sense. There are a number of very
obvious examples of this in the narrative of the Creation, for the
metaphysical events that took place at that time were far removed from
the natural order of the world we know today. They could not have been
accurately described in ways that we can understand, nor in language
that we can relate to. For example, the Torah tells us how God brought
the world into being through speech, when in fact He created the world
through a form of thought. When the Torah describes God's thought
process as speech, it makes it easier for us to grasp the idea on our
own level. [Copyright © 2001 by Rabbi Daniel Travis and www.Torah.org]

dolf: “Fascist Dogs BroilJAB & Uergil discuss their creation denial!”

BroilJAB (Design...@wmconnect.com): “The deviant creationists twist
and turn, twist the words of the faithful.

Sad it is to see them like this.”

Uergil (Uer...@uer.net): “If there is any damnation, it is the nation
creationists inhabit.”

dolf: “Vurgil or Uirgit? (vur...@arg.erg / uir...@uirgil.ur)

Or is it now Uergil?

Creationist denial has its roots in German political theatre.

Numerological and mystic speculation was especially rife amongst German
Romantics and Naturphilosophien during the nineteenth century and grew
out of ancient teleological speculations concerning the harmonious
distribution of the heavenly bodies. Such speculation was by no means
confined to the celestial motions; in 1818 the Kantian mineralogist
Christian Weiss even argues for a link between aspects of
rhombic-dodecahedral crystal structure and the musical scale of tones!
However, such flights of imaginative fancy generally had little impact
upon the work of serious scientists; with one notable exception.

In 1766 Johann Daniel Titius von Wittenberg was preparing a German
translation of Charles Bonnet’s Contemplation de la Nature. To the
section on planetary motions he added a now famous footnote pointing out
that the radii of all the planetary orbits can be generated by the
following simple algorithm, where r is measured in astronomical units (1
AU = 1.496 x 1013 cm):


rn = 0.4 + 0.3 x 2n; n = 0,1,2…


This formula provided a striking approximation for the distance from the
Sun to the six then-known planets: Mercury {Measured: 0.39, Predicted:
0.4}, Venus {Measured: 0.72, Predicted: 0.7}, Earth {Measured: 1.00,
Predicted: 1.0}, Mars {Measured: 1.52, Predicted: 1.6}, Jupiter
{Measured: 5.20, Predicted: 5.2}, Saturn {Measured: 9.55, Predicted:
10.0}. Their measured distances from the Sun at the time of the Law’s
inception are indicated together with Titius’ predictions. [Rediscovery
of the Anthropic Principle, John Barrow & Frank Tipler, The Anthropic
Cosmological Principle, © 1996, p 221]

There is no more opportunity for repentance--and neither for forgiveness.

To hell with you!”

#21 / .jackNote@zen: 5, row: 3, col: 7, nous: 67 [Super: #313 / #24 -
Important Distinctions, Trouble from Indulgence; I-Ching: H5 - Delay;
Tetra: 18 - Waiting, Ego: #462 / #67 - Three Treasures; I-Ching: H10 -
Tread Carefully; Tetra: 48 - Ritual] {Autonomous Nature {MOTHER: Scales
of Liability}}

[dolf]

Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c² [9(9²+1)/2]

If the circumference of the circle is PI (or rational PI).

What is the centre?

Well Yes, it will bring about the global collapse of the Catholic Church

On 27/05/12 7:31 AM, Uirgil wrote: