On Oct 7, 11:19 pm, Berkeley Brett <royal...
I am glad to know this. India has the oldest continuous civilisation,
and although the old light is burning dimly, it is still on.
> In the broadest sense, I suppose the community of all sentient beings throughout all space and time is a grand array of parallel incarnations of the Divine.
This is a very good way to put it. The nearest word in the Vedas that
relates to this sentiment is praja-pati-rhishir-anashtyup-cchanday or
the complex and mysterious
metrical rhythms of the wise lord of all beings, that are always
beyond the scope of even the greatest God Shiva, for He too must keep
on striving for superior powers.
> As I imagine it, what we call "God" is the infinite-infinite manifestation of consciousness, rather like an infinite sphere: an infinite sphere entails all points, no point anywhere is outside it. You and I and other beings are (as I see it) finite-infinite manifestations of the Divine: our infinity is like that of an infinitely long line. It entails infinitely many points, but there are very many points in space that do not lie on that line. The infinite-infinite sphere (God) entails all the finite-infinite lines (you and me), and hence we are truly "part and parcel" of the Divine.
Yes, infinity is also related to timelessness; we are finites bounded
within the infinite. It was and is perilous to consider the universe
as infinite in the western world;
Bruno was burnt to death. These days they seek to make it finite with
einsteinian relativity, big bang theory, etc. and as I know to my cost
you will be thoroughly ostracised
by the western intellectuals if you dare to hold different views. One
has to be really unimportant, to hold such views as you do.
> You have raised the very interesting example of Vishnu and the parallel manifestations of Vishnu: Krishna and Balarama.
It is normal in the Indian ethos to create the sense of balance. Even
the most ardent devotee of Krishna will admit that Krishna was not
straight. His critics called him
crooked and worse. His devotees will replace all that with
curviness. Since both the straight and the curved are required,
Balaram had to be present as the straight guy, for balance.
> Perhaps we too have parallel manifestations, being emanations from Vishnu. I have at times, especially on the verge of waking or falling asleep, felt a sense that I have other manifestations in distant regions of the Universe. This may, of course, be an illusion, but the sense of it is often quite strong.
Some people have different perception abilities. I know one lady who
claims to see everyone's auras. What exactly are we, is a fundamental
philosophical point. I have put
up the metaphysics involved in the Indian civilisation, in my book
"The Son of Hiranyaksh" which can be bought for around $10 from
> Of course in a different sense, YOU are a parallel incarnation of me, just as I am a parallel incarnation of you! As 50 year old Brett, I am separated from the 10 year old Brett and the 80 year old Brett by TIME; but I am also separated from the Brett named Arindam Banerjee by SPACE; to go one step further, I am separated from the Brett who was the 10 year old Arindam Banerjee by TIME and SPACE.
While we all have the same spiritual matter, the issue relates to
morality as per the individual soul, for its position in the afterlife
and/or station in rebirth. Thus the
individual soul, in its quest for its own welfare, has to be lonely by
being individual. When there is pure love for the Divine, there is
mingling leading to union. Marriage is the nearest thing to such
union, in our mortal sphere.
> At times I have felt that the Mahavakyas of the Upanishads summarize these sublime mysteries so concisely that it's easy to overlook their profound significance:
The Upanishads, Vedas, and the Puranas are all nicely integrated, as
opposed to having a historical development (Upanishads happened after
they got tired of the Vedic gods) as we are currently taught. The
Puranas come first in the priority scale (as opposed to time scale)
for the Vedas cannot be understood without the knowledge from the
Puranans. Then the Upanishads cannot be understood without
understanding both the Vedas and the Puranas. To help in our
understanding overall, there are the epics, tales, music, drama, etc.