Humanty faces some of the most serious threats ever, Peak Oil, Climate
Change, etc. Muslim suicide bombers are way down on the list of
threats, however.
Ever notice no one gush hypes "9/11 changed EEEEEVERYthing" anymore?
In fact most Americans were bored stiff with 9/11 by 10/11/01.
Bret Cahill
> "Harry Hope" <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> >http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/12/30/hysteria...
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> > Dec. 30, 2009
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> > Craving terrorist melodrama
>
> > The calls for Obama to act with more hysteria and panic every time Al
> > Qaeda sneezes are just plain stupid
>
> > By Glenn Greenwald
>
> > As dumb as our political discourse typically is, it gets dumber by
> > many magnitudes whenever there's a terrorism-related scare (of the
> > Islamic variety).
>
> > .........................................................................................................................
>
> > The fact that Obama doesn't hysterically run around like some sort of
> > frightened chicken with his head cut off every time
>
> > Al Qaeda sneezes -- or swagger to the nearest camera to beat his chest
> > and play the role of protective daddy-cowboy -- is one of the things I
> > like best about him.
>
> > ...................................................................................................................
>
> > Many people (rightards actually) are addicted to the excitement and
> > fear of Terrorist melodramas.
>
> > They crave some of that awesome 9/12 energy, where we overnight became
> > The Greatest Generation and -- unified and resolute -- rose to the
> > challenge of a Towering, Evil Enemy.
>
> > ................................................................................................................
>
> > Obama reacted as though this is exactly what it actually is:
>
> > a lame, failed attempt to kill people by a fractured band of
> > criminals.
>
> > It's not the Cuban Missile Crisis or the attack on Pearl Harbor, as
> > disappointing and unfulfilling as it is to accept that.
>
> > It merits analysis, investigation and possibly policy changes by the
> > responsible government agencies -- not a bright-red-alert,
> > bell-ringing, siren-sounding government-wide emergency that venerates
> > Al Qaeda into a threat so profound that the President can't even be
> > away from Washington lest they get us all.
>
> > As always, Al Qaeda's greatest allies are the ones in the U.S. who
> > tremble with the most fear at the very mention of their name and who
> > quite obviously crave a return of that stimulating, all-consuming,
> > elevating 9/12 glory.
>
> > ________________________________________________________
>
> > Rightards have now sunk below the surface of a sea of their own
> > stupidity.
>
> > Harry- Hide quoted text -
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White folks face ethnocide.
We are weighed down by masses of 3rd world immigration, loads of very
expensice political correctnes and some 9 million muslims who will be
60 million in 30-40 years.
Lets take care of ourselves first. Peak oil is no threat at all and
nor is climate change; the technical solutions are already there
should they be required. Nuclear, wind, concentrated solar thermal
combined with energy saving solutions will all work and be
affordable. Might have to drive a smaller car with less horsepower
and range; that's the worst that can happen.
Implementing these solutions is only made harder by immigraion driven
population growth and the need to fight silly wars.
Being assimlated to racial and cultural nonexistence by masses of
immigration is however definetly forever
And that is EXACTLY what the skuzzy muzzy jihadists are counting on.
You braindead Bots immediately went back to watching "Dancing with the
Stars" and "Survivor" two days after 9/11. Your hero,the crotch
bomber,says there's hundreds more just like him headed our way. If
we're lucky it'll be you we see on YouTube getting your head sawed off
with a rusty machete as you scream like a stuck pig. I'd pay good
money to see that !!
> In fact most Americans were bored stiff with 9/11 by 10/11/01.
You manufacture a number of your facts. The line above is one of them.
Do a short video:
Go up to any number of non jihaders on the street -- about 99.9% of
Americans -- and start gushing "9/11 changed EEEEEVERYthing . . . ."
Post the youtube link here.
Bret Cahill
Ummm....Brat, I know you're in a time warp and reside in an alternate
universe of your own wild imaginings, but someone should tell you that
in a few short hours it will be 2010.
Fred Weiss
Does that mean there ain't gonna be any "9/11 changed EEEEEVERYthing"
video?
Bret Cahill
Not done on 10/11/01 when you claim that most Americans were "bored
stiff" with 9/11.
Clearly it did bore you which says a great deal about you.
Fred Weiss
If you think anything has changed since 10/11 tell our in house
eternal jihaders that.
> Clearly it did bore you which says a great deal about you.
Flattery will get you no where.
Bret Cahill
> > Clearly it did bore you which says a great deal about you.
>
> Flattery will get you no where.
Let's put up a visual image of what Brat found boring.
(There are dozens of videos of the 9/11 attack. I just picked this one
at random.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv4s3fn8jDc
Fred Weiss
Only terrorists believe a terrorist attack changes anything.
That's why they/you do it.
Bret Cahill
Only in your alternate universe.
Fred Weiss
Well?
Don't you have any counter examples?
No great philosophers who said, "hey, you know, them Islamofascists
done got themselves a purty effective plan. One good terrorist
attack and POW! western civilization comes apart like Repug senator
caught soliciting gays in an airport bathroom."
Bret Cahill
I'm not accepting gratis assignments at this time. Since it is your
idea, why don't you carry it out and post the You Tube link *there*?
You manufacture a number of your facts. What's a few more?
> > > Only terrorists believe a terrorist attack changes anything.
>
> > > That's why they/you do it.
>
> > Only in your alternate universe.
>
> Well?
>
> Don't you have any counter examples?
Of how terrorism/terrorist attacks changes things?
Like I said, what alternate universe do you reside in?
(Apart from its other effects, 9/11 had a multi 100billion effect on
our economy. It compounded the recession which Bush inherited from
Clinton and sent the stock market into an additional tailspin.)
Fred Weiss
Yes.
> Like I said, what alternate universe do you reside in?
You dodged the question:
You were supposed to post great philosophers who said, "hey, you know,
them Islamofascists done got themselves a purty effective plan. One
good terrorist
attack and POW! western civilization comes apart like Repug senator
caught soliciting gays in an airport bathroom."
> (Apart from its other effects, 9/11 had a multi 100billion effect on
> our economy.
The damage was 100 billion out of a 15 trillion a year economy.
If it had pro rata news coverage it would have been hyped for 3 days
instead of 6 years.
>It compounded the recession which Bush inherited
There was no recession until Dumbya passes tax cuts on the rich.
Posters here have corrected you on that several times yet you keep
repeating the same lies.
> from
> Clinton
The high tax Clinton economic boom was the longest expansion in the
history of the republic. It balanced the budget and trillions of
surpluses were all set to be rolling in.
Then Dumbya cut taxes on the rich which eventually caused the greatest
economic disaster since Hoover and the Republicans caused the Great
Depression.
> and sent the stock market into an additional tailspin.
That's what happens when you cut taxes for the rich.
Bret Cahill
> >> You manufacture a number of your facts.
> > Do a short video:
> > Go up to any number of non jihaders on the street -- about 99.9% of
> > Americans -- and start gushing "9/11 changed EEEEEVERYthing . . . ."
> > Post the youtube link here.
> I'm not accepting gratis assignments at this time.
And no one is believing your fantasy that Americans want to be eternal
jihaders either.
Even the tiny minority that want Americans to engage in eternal jihad
no longer believe that fantasy.
Face reality: The Oil Bidness running BushCo could care less about
democracy in the mideast.
> Since it is your
> idea,
It's not my idea. It's _your_ fantasy that all Americans want to
spend all their time engaged in eternal jihad
. . .
> You manufacture a number of your facts.
The burden of proof is on anyone who asserts a bat crap crazy theory
like "everyone in the land of the free and the home of the brave is so
scared to death of Islamic terrorists they want to spend the entire
GDP on eternal jihad."
BushCo bankrupted the country with his one two punch of tax cuts for
the rich and eternal jihad.
Bret Cahill
> > (Apart from its other effects, 9/11 had a multi 100billion effect on
> > our economy.
>
> The damage was 100 billion out of a 15 trillion a year economy.
A mere $100billion. (That isn't even mentioning the 1,000's of lives
lost).
GDP in 2001 was $10Trillion.
As usual - and in the same spirit of your ClimateGate heroes - you
make up numbers as you go along.
> If it had pro rata news coverage it would have been hyped for 3 days
> instead of 6 years.
How long do you think the attack on Pearl Harbor should have been
"hyped"?
More American lives were lost on 9/11
> >It compounded the recession which Bush inherited
>
> There was no recession until Dumbya passes tax cuts on the rich.
It was the tax cuts which significantly contributed to *reversing* the
recession. In addition, tax *revenues* from the rich and corporations
subsequently increased dramatically.
I have corrected you on this point several times yet you keep
repeating the same lies.
Clearly on this subject you have your head even further up your ass
than you usually do.
Fred Weiss
I don't care for Manilla. Do you have any strawberry?
I'm not accepting your wild-eyed premise either. I'm not the guy who
has the fantasy.
> Even the tiny minority that want Americans to engage in eternal jihad
> no longer believe that fantasy.
>
> Face reality: The Oil Bidness running BushCo could care less about
> democracy in the mideast.
>
>> Since it is your
>> idea,
>
> It's not my idea. It's _your_ fantasy that all Americans want to
> spend all their time engaged in eternal jihad
No, goofball, *you* made the supposition and you are stuck with it.
>
>> You manufacture a number of your facts.
>
> The burden of proof is on anyone who asserts a bat crap crazy theory
> like "everyone in the land of the free and the home of the brave is so
> scared to death of Islamic terrorists they want to spend the entire
> GDP on eternal jihad."
No one but you has put together that supposition. It is yours. The
burden of proof that such a mindset exists is yours.
> The burden of proof is on anyone who asserts a bat crap crazy theory
> like ...
AGW?
Fred Weiss
1- Peak oil is the name given to his computer
model 40+ years ago by King Hubbert. It
worked very well until about 20 years ago
when they could no longer get accurate
data from Arabia, Russia and others.
Nevertheless it was the oil drum's peak
oil forecasts that brought on the huge price
rises.
2- Climate change is no threat. We need to
prepare for the cooling down. Obama and
fascists everywhere (inc Cahill) are trying to
control the world with this mammoth global
warming scam.
Global warming is a myth and does not exist. On
the other hand "Climate Change" is functioning
as it has for 5 million years or more.
–– ––
Political correctness is destroying Europe.
America will be the next down the PC tube
greased by academic idiots like Scott Erb,
Noam Chumpsky, and Ward Churchill, and
Slick Willy & Hilly, Algore & Pelosi, and
now Barak Hussein Muhammad Obama, too.
> >> How long do you think the attack on Pearl Harbor should have been
> >> "hyped"?
> > How long was the attack on Manilla Bay hped?
> I don't care for Manilla. Do you have any strawberry?
Even the eternal jihaders now treat 9/11 with a great deal of levity.
Bret Cahill
You know any independent scientists who don't think it is reality?
And _no_ your creationists, dowsers and shills don't count?
Bret Cahill
Ever since I was a small boy and first attended the circus, clowns have
made me laugh. You clowns are among the best.
You liked to toss the elephant pies.
Bret Cahill
> You liked to toss the elephant pies.
Your line doesn't make much sense after I reinserted what you
dishonestly cut from my post. Suddenly, you aren't as funny as when you
weren't weren't trying so hard.
But you think *anyone* who denies it is a creationist, dowsers or
shill, so it kinda makes it impossible to ever falsify your bat crap
crazy theory.
You know what they say about scientific theories which can't be
falsified, don't you?
How many more years of global cooling would it take to convince you?
We're now at 10yrs....and counting.
Fred Weiss
. . .
Suddenly, you aren't as funny
Did you _ever_ think eternal jihad was funny?
Bret Cahill
Well?
Don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.
Provide _one_ counterexample.
Bret Cahill
That depends.
Don't play that.
<snip>
Ian Pilmer you lying fuck. Of course as he pointed out there's
no point giving you examples because you claim they're shills.
Of course it was your side got caught out shilling but never mind,
liar.
Name one American that was bored stiff with 9/11 before (and I'll
be generous here) 1/12/01. Your lies are getting less credible, which
I wouldn't have thought possible. Are you a conservative plant?
>
> > "Harry Hope" <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:9pepj5don7nselbmk...@4ax.com...
>
> > >http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/12/30/hysteria...
>
> > > Dec. 30, 2009
>
> > > Craving terrorist melodrama
>
> > > The calls for Obama to act with more hysteria and panic every time Al
> > > Qaeda sneezes are just plain stupid
>
> > > By Glenn Greenwald
>
> > > As dumb as our political discourse typically is, it gets dumber by
> > > many magnitudes whenever there's a terrorism-related scare (of the
> > > Islamic variety).
>
> > > .........................................................................................................................
>
> > > The fact that Obama doesn't hysterically run around like some sort of
> > > frightened chicken with his head cut off every time
>
> > > Al Qaeda sneezes -- or swagger to the nearest camera to beat his chest
> > > and play the role of protective daddy-cowboy -- is one of the things I
> > > like best about him.
>
> > > ...................................................................................................................
>
> > > Many people (rightards actually) are addicted to the excitement and
> > > fear of Terrorist melodramas.
>
> > > They crave some of that awesome 9/12 energy, where we overnight became
> > > The Greatest Generation and -- unified and resolute -- rose to the
> > > challenge of a Towering, Evil Enemy.
>
> > > ................................................................................................................
>
> > > Obama reacted as though this is exactly what it actually is:
>
> > > a lame, failed attempt to kill people by a fractured band of
> > > criminals.
>
> > > It's not the Cuban Missile Crisis or the attack on Pearl Harbor, as
> > > disappointing and unfulfilling as it is to accept that.
>
> > > It merits analysis, investigation and possibly policy changes by the
> > > responsible government agencies -- not a bright-red-alert,
> > > bell-ringing, siren-sounding government-wide emergency that venerates
> > > Al Qaeda into a threat so profound that the President can't even be
> > > away from Washington lest they get us all.
>
> > > As always, Al Qaeda's greatest allies are the ones in the U.S. who
> > > tremble with the most fear at the very mention of their name and who
> > > quite obviously crave a return of that stimulating, all-consuming,
> > > elevating 9/12 glory.
>
> > > ________________________________________________________
>
> > > Rightards have now sunk below the surface of a sea of their own
> > > stupidity.
>
> > > Harry- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
Name one American that was bored stiff with 9/11 before (and I'll
be generous here) 1/12/01. Your lies are getting less credible, which
I wouldn't have thought possible. Are you a conservative plant?
>
Only 7 more years of Obama, then 8 more years of Amy Carter.