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Fuckwit David Harrison: no valid *ethical* objection to "ar"

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George Plimpton

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Dec 3, 2012, 11:53:49 AM12/3/12
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The only objection Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - has ever made to
"ar" is that he would no longer be able to consume meat. It's all about
*Goo*; nothing about animals.

Rupert

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Dec 3, 2012, 12:21:06 PM12/3/12
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What do you think the best objections to animal rights are?

George Plimpton

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Dec 3, 2012, 12:42:11 PM12/3/12
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That its core premises about the "rights" and/or moral considerability
of animals are completely and irremediably wrong.

George Plimpton

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Dec 3, 2012, 12:53:59 PM12/3/12
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...and therefore, all of the ethical prescriptions "aras" want to
inflict on humans are completely groundless at best, and perhaps
themselves completely unethical - that is, they would impose hardship on
harm on humans for no good reason.

Mr.Smartypants

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Dec 3, 2012, 1:22:09 PM12/3/12
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you're full of shit as usual.

Rupert

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Dec 3, 2012, 3:56:48 PM12/3/12
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Okay. So what are these core premises that you have in mind?

George Plimpton

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Dec 3, 2012, 3:59:40 PM12/3/12
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We've been over all this before; now you're just trying to waste my
time. You asked what I think are the best objections to "ar", and I
gave you my answer.

Rupert

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Dec 3, 2012, 4:12:37 PM12/3/12
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On Dec 3, 9:59 pm, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
> On 12/3/2012 12:56 PM, Rupert wrote:
>
> > On Dec 3, 6:42 pm, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
> >> On 12/3/2012 9:21 AM, Rupert wrote:
>
> >>> On Dec 3, 5:53 pm, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
> >>>> The only objection Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - has ever made to
> >>>> "ar" is that he would no longer be able to consume meat.  It's all about
> >>>> *Goo*; nothing about animals.
>
> >>> What do you think the best objections to animal rights are?
>
> >> That its core premises about the "rights" and/or moral considerability
> >> of animals are completely and irremediably wrong.
>
> > Okay. So what are these core premises that you have in mind?
>
> We've been over all this before; now you're just trying to waste my
> time.

No, I'm not; I'm trying to get you to fulfil your obligation to state
your view clearly.

> You asked what I think are the best objections to "ar", and I
> gave you my answer.

You gave me a partial answer, and refused to clarify it any further.
Your objection seems to me to pretty much amount to saying "I don't
agree". You must be aware that some animal rights advocates make some
effort to argue for their point of view. You're not engaging with
these arguments in any serious way.

George Plimpton

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Dec 3, 2012, 4:16:23 PM12/3/12
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On 12/3/2012 1:12 PM, Rupert wrote:
> On Dec 3, 9:59 pm, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
>> On 12/3/2012 12:56 PM, Rupert wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 3, 6:42 pm, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
>>>> On 12/3/2012 9:21 AM, Rupert wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Dec 3, 5:53 pm, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
>>>>>> The only objection Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - has ever made to
>>>>>> "ar" is that he would no longer be able to consume meat. It's all about
>>>>>> *Goo*; nothing about animals.
>>
>>>>> What do you think the best objections to animal rights are?
>>
>>>> That its core premises about the "rights" and/or moral considerability
>>>> of animals are completely and irremediably wrong.
>>
>>> Okay. So what are these core premises that you have in mind?
>>
>> We've been over all this before; now you're just trying to waste my
>> time.
>
> No, I'm not; I'm trying to get you to fulfil your obligation to state
> your view clearly.

No, you're not - you're trying to waste my time. I have discussed
everything about this, in detail and with you specifically, many times
over the years. You know everything I think on it. Now, you're just
trying to waste my time. Fuck off, bitch.


>> You asked what I think are the best objections to "ar", and I
>> gave you my answer.
>
> You gave me a partial answer, and refused to clarify it any further.

Yes, because you already know my objections and the reasons for them in
great detail.

Rupert

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Dec 4, 2012, 6:09:08 AM12/4/12
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On Dec 3, 10:16 pm, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
> On 12/3/2012 1:12 PM, Rupert wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 3, 9:59 pm, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
> >> On 12/3/2012 12:56 PM, Rupert wrote:
>
> >>> On Dec 3, 6:42 pm, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
> >>>> On 12/3/2012 9:21 AM, Rupert wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Dec 3, 5:53 pm, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
> >>>>>> The only objection Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - has ever made to
> >>>>>> "ar" is that he would no longer be able to consume meat.  It's all about
> >>>>>> *Goo*; nothing about animals.
>
> >>>>> What do you think the best objections to animal rights are?
>
> >>>> That its core premises about the "rights" and/or moral considerability
> >>>> of animals are completely and irremediably wrong.
>
> >>> Okay. So what are these core premises that you have in mind?
>
> >> We've been over all this before; now you're just trying to waste my
> >> time.
>
> > No, I'm not; I'm trying to get you to fulfil your obligation to state
> > your view clearly.
>
> No, you're not - you're trying to waste my time.  I have discussed
> everything about this, in detail and with you specifically, many times
> over the years.  You know everything I think on it.  Now, you're just
> trying to waste my time.  Fuck off, bitch.
>

I'm sorry that you regard it as a waste of time to try to defend your
views.

> >>   You asked what I think are the best objections to "ar", and I
> >> gave you my answer.
>
> > You gave me a partial answer, and refused to clarify it any further.
>
> Yes, because you already know my objections and the reasons for them in
> great detail.

I've got some idea of what your objections would be. I don't know in
great detail.

As far as your performance in this thread goes, you are in the same
boat as David Harrison: you haven't presented any kind of serious
objection to animal rights philosophy.

George Plimpton

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Dec 4, 2012, 10:49:09 AM12/4/12
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I've defended them - all of them - to you many times in the past.

>>>> You asked what I think are the best objections to "ar", and I
>>>> gave you my answer.
>>
>>> You gave me a partial answer, and refused to clarify it any further.
>>
>> Yes, because you already know my objections and the reasons for them in
>> great detail.
>
> I've got some idea of what your objections would be. I don't know in
> great detail.

You ought to know, but presumably you were too wobbly when I elaborated
in detail before.

Rupert

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Dec 4, 2012, 1:48:42 PM12/4/12
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I am curious to know something. Do you think that animal suffering
doesn't matter at all? That it's totally irrational to care about it
in the least?

George Plimpton

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Dec 4, 2012, 1:52:47 PM12/4/12
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You've asked me that before, and I answered.

Rupert

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Dec 5, 2012, 4:13:12 AM12/5/12
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I don't suppose you would be willing to give some handy Google search
string whereby I can find your previous answer?

George Plimpton

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Dec 5, 2012, 3:59:28 PM12/5/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - makes a big pretense of being outraged
that so-called "ethical vegetarians" aren't giving some kind of
"consideration" to the prospect of livestock animals' "getting to
experience life", but in fact, *he* doesn't care about livestock
animals' welfare or experience of life at all. He just wants the
products, but for some reason he's ashamed of that.

Mr.Smartypants

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Dec 6, 2012, 3:11:43 AM12/6/12
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pretty lame evasion, Gooberdoodle.

dh

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Dec 6, 2012, 3:14:19 PM12/6/12
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 01:13:12 -0800 (PST), Rupert <rupertm...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 4 Dez., 19:52, Goo wussed horribly:
_________________________________________________________
"the nutritionally unnecessary choice deliberately to kill an animal
ALWAYS causes a moral harm greater in magnitude than . . . the
moral "benefit" realized by the animal in existing at all" - Goo

"the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude
than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Goo

"no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate killing
of the animals erases all of it." - Goo

"it is not "better" that the animal exist, no matter
its quality of live" - Goo
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We see the Goober TELLS US that "quality of live" means nothing at all to
him. In his attempts to support the misnomer Goo wants to reassure people that
regardless of how good it is for the animals:
_________________________________________________________
"NO livestock benefit from being farmed." - Goo

"No farm animals benefit from farming." - Goo

"The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
whatever, and certainly cannot be used to justify the
breeding of livestock" - Goo

"It is not "better" in any moral way, and not in *any* way
at all to the animal itself, that the animal exists." - Goo

"The meaningless fact-lette that farm animals "get
to experience life" deserves no consideration when
asking whether or not it is moral to kill them. Zero." - Goo

"It is completely UNIMPORTANT, morally, that "billions
of animals" at any point "get to experience life."
ZERO importance to it." - Goo
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dh

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Dec 6, 2012, 3:14:48 PM12/6/12
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Goo's "opposition" to elimination is what a true opponent like myself
considers to be support for it:

"Rights are not given. Rights exist." - Goo

"There is no "selfishness" involved in wanting farm animals not to
exist as a step towards creating a more just world." - Goo

""appreciation for decent AW" doesn't *MEAN* anything" - Goo

""appreciation for decent AW" doesn't mean anything." - Goo

"the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude
than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Goo

"no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate killing
of the animals erases all of it." - Goo

"it is not "better" that the animal exist, no matter
its quality of live" - Goo

""giving them life" does NOT mitigate the wrongness of
their deaths" - Goo

"When considering your food choices ethically, assign
ZERO weight to the morally empty fact that choosing to
eat meat causes animals to be bred into existence." - Goo

"It is morally wrong, in an absolute sense - unjust, in other
words - if humans kill animals they don't need to kill, i.e. not
in self defense. There's your answer. " - Goo

"Life "justifying" death is the
stupidest goddamned thing you ever wrote." - Goo

"NO livestock benefit from being farmed." - Goo

"No farm animals benefit from farming." - Goo

"There is nothing to "appreciate" about the livestock "getting
to experience life" - Goo

"Shut the fuck up about "consideration" for "their lives"" - Goo

"the "getting to experience life" deserves NO moral
consideration, and is given none; the deliberate killing
of animals for use by humans DOES deserve moral
consideration, and gets it." - Goo

"logically one MUST conclude that not raising them in the first place is the
ethically superior choice." - Goo

"The meaningless fact-lette that farm animals "get to
experience life" deserves no consideration when asking
whether or not it is moral to kill them. Zero." - Goo

"the nutritionally unnecessary choice deliberately to kill an animal
ALWAYS causes a moral harm greater in magnitude than . . . the
moral "benefit" realized by the animal in existing at all" - Goo

dh

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Dec 6, 2012, 3:15:00 PM12/6/12
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:16:23 -0800, Goo wussed:
>On 12/3/2012 1:12 PM, Rupert challenged:
>> On Dec 3, 9:59 pm, Goo wussed:
>>> On 12/3/2012 12:56 PM, Rupert wrote:
>>>
>>>> Okay. So what are these core premises that you have in mind?
>>>
>>> We've been over all this before; now you're just trying to waste my
>>> time.
>>
>> No, I'm not; I'm trying to get you to fulfil your obligation to state
>> your view clearly.
>
>No, you're not - you're trying to waste my time. I have discussed
>everything about this, in detail and with you specifically, many times
>over the years. You know everything I think on it. Now, you're just
>trying to waste my time. Fuck off, bitch.

LOL!!! You have no opposition to elimination as I've been pointing out and
you've been demonstrating for years Goob. You can't even pretend that you do,
Goo.

dh

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Dec 6, 2012, 3:15:57 PM12/6/12
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 03:09:08 -0800 (PST), Rupert <rupertm...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Dec 3, 10:16 pm, Goo wrote:
>> On 12/3/2012 1:12 PM, Rupert wrote:
>> > On Dec 3, 9:59 pm, Goo wrote:
>> >> On 12/3/2012 12:56 PM, Rupert wrote:
>>
>> >>> On Dec 3, 6:42 pm, Goo wrote:
>> >>>> On 12/3/2012 9:21 AM, Rupert wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> On Dec 3, 5:53 pm, Goo wrote:
>> >>>>>> It's all about *Goo*; nothing about animals.
>>
>> >>>>> What do you think the best objections to animal rights are?
>>
>> >>>> That its core premises about the "rights" and/or moral considerability
>> >>>> of animals are completely and irremediably wrong.
>>
>> >>> Okay. So what are these core premises that you have in mind?
>>
>> >> We've been over all this before; now you're just trying to waste my
>> >> time.
>>
>> > No, I'm not; I'm trying to get you to fulfil your obligation to state
>> > your view clearly.
>>
>> No, you're not - you're trying to waste my time.  I have discussed
>> everything about this, in detail and with you specifically, many times
>> over the years.  You know everything I think on it.  Now, you're just
>> trying to waste my time.  Fuck off, bitch.
>>
>
>I'm sorry that you regard it as a waste of time to try to defend your
>views.

Here is how the Goober feels about livestock, which is the way all
eliminationists feel:

"It is morally wrong, in an absolute sense - unjust, in other
words - if humans kill animals they don't need to kill, i.e. not
in self defense. There's your answer. " - Goo

"Life "justifying" death is the
stupidest goddamned thing you ever wrote." - Goo

"NO livestock benefit from being farmed." - Goo

"No farm animals benefit from farming." - Goo

"There is nothing to "appreciate" about the livestock "getting
to experience life" - Goo

"Shut the fuck up about "consideration" for "their lives"" - Goo

"the nutritionally unnecessary choice deliberately to kill an animal
ALWAYS causes a moral harm greater in magnitude than . . . the
moral "benefit" realized by the animal in existing at all" - Goo

"the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude
than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Goo

"no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate killing
of the animals erases all of it." - Goo

"it is not "better" that the animal exist, no matter
its quality of live" - Goo

"It is not "better" in any moral way, and not in *any* way
at all to the animal itself, that the animal exists." - Goo

"logically one MUST
conclude that not raising them in the first place is the
ethically superior choice." - Goo

"People who don't want them to exist should be "vegans".
"Vegans" aren't interested in contributing to lives of any
quality for farm animals: they don't want there to be farm
animals." - Goo

""Veg*nism" certainly doesn't harm any living farm animals.
And if everyone adopted "veg*nism", no farm animals would
live in bad conditions." - Goo

"you MUST believe that it makes moral sense not
to raise the animals as the only way to prevent the harm that
results from killing them." - Goo

""Getting to experience life" has no significance." - Goo

"the "getting to experience life" deserves NO moral
consideration, and is given none; the deliberate killing
of animals for use by humans DOES deserve moral
consideration, and gets it." - Goo

""giving them life" does NOT mitigate the wrongness of
their deaths" - Goo

"Causing animals to be born and "get to experience life"
(in Fuckwit's wretched prose) is no mitigation at all for
killing them." - Goo

>> >>   You asked what I think are the best objections to "ar", and I
>> >> gave you my answer.
>>
>> > You gave me a partial answer, and refused to clarify it any further.
>>
>> Yes, because you already know my objections and the reasons for them in
>> great detail.
>
>I've got some idea of what your objections would be. I don't know in
>great detail.

We see that Goo supports acceptance of elimination, but we see no opposition
to it even when the stupid Goober is challenged directly to try to come up with
some. As I've pointed out countless times, the goos all appear to be
eliminationisits, 2 out of 3 of them lying about it. Actually YOU have PRETENDED
to be more AW minded than Goo ever has by muttering things you don't believe
like:

"I said to David Harrison that there exist some farmed animals such
that it would be a better outcome for them to live the life they do
rather than for them not to live at all and for no animals to live
in their place." - Rupert

"there exist some farmed animals such that it would be
a better outcome for them to live the life they do rather
than for them not to live at all and for no animals to live
in their place." - Rupert

"I accept that some nonhuman animals who are raised for food on farms
have lives which are such that it is better that they live that life
than that they not live at all" - Rupert

>As far as your performance in this thread goes, you are in the same
>boat as David Harrison: you haven't presented any kind of serious
>objection to animal rights philosophy.

What I point out should be significant for people who have not yet decided
and for people who honestly favor decent AW over elimination. For people who
have already put their faith in elimination and won't consider moving on to
something superior, the lives of billions of animals are meaningless as they are
to you and the goos.

dh

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Dec 6, 2012, 3:19:09 PM12/6/12
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 08:53:49 -0800, Goo wrote:

>It's all about *Goo*; nothing about animals.

"I eat meat." - Goo

"It is completely UNIMPORTANT, morally, that "billions
of animals" at any point "get to experience life."
ZERO importance to it." - Goo

"The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
whatever, and certainly cannot be used to justify the
breeding of livestock" - Goo

"The meaningless fact-lette that farm animals "get
to experience life" deserves no consideration when
asking whether or not it is moral to kill them. Zero." - Goo

"When considering your food choices ethically, assign
ZERO weight to the morally empty fact that choosing to
eat meat causes animals to be bred into existence." - Goo

"NO livestock benefit from being farmed." - Goo

"No farm animals benefit from farming." - Goo

""aras" confront him with a truth that . . . consumption
of "meat...gravy" harms animals interests." - Goo

"the "getting to experience life" deserves NO moral
consideration, and is given none; the deliberate killing
of animals for use by humans DOES deserve moral
consideration, and gets it." - Goo

"I consume meat. I consume it daily - I can't even remember a day in my life
when I didn't." - Goo

"the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude
than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Goo

"no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate killing
of the animals erases all of it." - Goo

George Plimpton

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Dec 6, 2012, 3:47:54 PM12/6/12
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The only objection Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - has ever made to
"ar" is that he would no longer be able to consume meat. It's all about
*Goo*; nothing about animals.

George Plimpton

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Dec 6, 2012, 3:47:56 PM12/6/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:


> "It is morally wrong, in an absolute sense - unjust, in other
> words - if humans kill animals they don't need to kill, i.e. not
> in self defense. There's your answer. "

Fake quote.

>
> "Life "justifying" death is the
> stupidest goddamned thing you ever wrote."

True.

>
> "NO livestock benefit from being farmed."

True.


>
> "No farm animals benefit from farming."

True.


>
> "There is nothing to "appreciate" about the livestock "getting
> to experience life"

True.


> "Shut the fuck up about "consideration" for "their lives""

You should shut the fuck up, *Goo* - you have no "appreciation" for
their lives; only the products.


> "the nutritionally unnecessary choice deliberately

Not quote.


> "the moral harm caused by

Not a quote.


> "no matter how "decent" the conditions are,

Not a quote.


> "it is not "better" that

Not a quote.


> "It is not "better" in any moral way, and not in *any* way
> at all to the animal itself, that the animal exists."

True.


> "logically one MUST
> conclude that

Not a quote.


> "People who don't want them to exist should be "vegans".
> "Vegans" aren't interested in contributing to lives of any
> quality for farm animals: they don't want there to be farm
> animals."

True.


> ""Veg*nism" certainly doesn't harm any living farm animals.
> And if everyone adopted "veg*nism", no farm animals would
> live in bad conditions."

True.


> "you MUST believe that it

Not a quote.


> ""Getting to experience life" has no significance."

True.


> "the "getting to experience life" deserves NO moral
> consideration,

Not a quote.


> ""giving them life" does NOT mitigate

Not a quote.


> "Causing animals to be born and "get to experience life"
> (in Fuckwit's wretched prose) is no mitigation at all for
> killing them."

True.


>>>>> You asked what I think are the best objections to "ar", and I
>>>>> gave you my answer.
>>>
>>>> You gave me a partial answer, and refused to clarify it any further.
>>>
>>> Yes, because you already know my objections and the reasons for them in
>>> great detail.
>>
>> I've got some idea of what your objections would be. I don't know in
>> great detail.
>
> We see that

We see that existence - "getting to experience life" - is not a benefit,
*Goo*.

George Plimpton

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Dec 6, 2012, 3:47:57 PM12/6/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:16:23 -0800, George A. Plimpton wrote:
>> On 12/3/2012 1:12 PM, Rupert challenged:
>>> On Dec 3, 9:59 pm, George B. Plimpton wrote:
>>>> On 12/3/2012 12:56 PM, Rupert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Okay. So what are these core premises that you have in mind?
>>>>
>>>> We've been over all this before; now you're just trying to waste my
>>>> time.
>>>
>>> No, I'm not; I'm trying to get you to fulfil your obligation to state
>>> your view clearly.
>>
>> No, you're not - you're trying to waste my time. I have discussed
>> everything about this, in detail and with you specifically, many times
>> over the years. You know everything I think on it. Now, you're just
>> trying to waste my time. Fuck off, bitch.
>
> LOL!!! You have no opposition to elimination

Of course I have, *Goo* - but it doesn't involve placing any value on
"future farm animals" "getting to experience life", because that has no
value. If no additional livestock animals were bred, starting today, it
would be meaningless that no more livestock would "get to experience
life." That's a fact, *Goo* - it would have no meaning at all.

George Plimpton

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Dec 6, 2012, 3:47:58 PM12/6/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 01:13:12 -0800 (PST), Rupert <rupertm...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4 Dez., 19:52, George Plimpton wrote:
>>> On 12/4/2012 10:48 AM, Rupert wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am curious to know something. Do you think that animal suffering
>>>> doesn't matter at all? That it's totally irrational to care about it
>>>> in the least?
>>>
>>> You've asked me that before, and I answered.
>>>
>>
>> I don't suppose you would be willing to give some handy Google search
>> string whereby I can find your previous answer?
> _________________________________________________________
> "the nutritionally unnecessary choice

Not a quote.


> "the moral harm caused by killing them

Not a quote.


> "no matter how "decent" the conditions are,

Not a quote.


> "it is not "better" that the animal exist,

Not a quote.


> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
> We see George TELLS US that

I tell you - I have *proved* to you, *Goo* - that existence, or "getting
to experience life", is not a benefit. It isn't, *Goo* - it cannot be.


> _________________________________________________________
> "NO livestock benefit from being farmed." - George M. Plimpton

True.

>
> "No farm animals benefit from farming." - George N. Plimpton

True.

>
> "The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
> experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
> whatever, and certainly cannot be used to justify the
> breeding of livestock" - George O. Plimpton

True.


>
> "It is not "better" in any moral way, and not in *any* way
> at all to the animal itself, that the animal exists." - George P. Plimpton

True.


>
> "The meaningless fact-lette that farm animals "get
> to experience life" deserves no consideration when
> asking whether or not it is moral to kill them. Zero." - George Q. Plimpton

True.


> "It is completely UNIMPORTANT, morally, that "billions
> of animals" at any point "get to experience life."
> ZERO importance to it." - George R. Plimpton
> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

All true statements, *Goo*.

George Plimpton

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Dec 6, 2012, 4:40:41 PM12/6/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison, aka *Goo*, a convicted felon, lied:

> [*Goo's* comical lies snipped]

Actually, *Goo* I have elaborated at length on the fallacies of "ar",
specifically on the false moral premises of it.


dh

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Dec 10, 2012, 4:51:52 PM12/10/12
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:58 -0800, Goo wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:14:19 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 01:13:12 -0800 (PST), Rupert <rupertm...@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 4 Dez., 19:52, Goo wussed horribly:
>>>> On 12/4/2012 10:48 AM, Rupert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I am curious to know something. Do you think that animal suffering
>>>> > doesn't matter at all? That it's totally irrational to care about it
>>>> > in the least?
>>>>
>>>> You've asked me that before, and I answered.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I don't suppose you would be willing to give some handy Google search
>>>string whereby I can find your previous answer?
>>_________________________________________________________
>>"the nutritionally unnecessary choice deliberately to kill an animal
>>ALWAYS causes a moral harm greater in magnitude than . . . the
>>moral "benefit" realized by the animal in existing at all" - Goo
>>
>>"the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude
>>than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Goo
>>
>>"no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate killing
>>of the animals erases all of it." - Goo
>>
>>"it is not "better" that the animal exist, no matter
>>its quality of live" - Goo
>>¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>
>Not a quote.

They're all quotes Goober and you agree with yourself about every one of
them. If you want to try to pretend you don't then YOU need to try explaining
how you want people to think you disagree with yourself about any of them, Goo.

>> We see the Goober TELLS US that "quality of live" means nothing at all to
>>him.
>
>I tell you

That it means nothing to you, Goo.

>>In his attempts to support the misnomer Goo wants to reassure people that
>>regardless of how good it is for the animals:
>>_________________________________________________________
>>"NO livestock benefit from being farmed." - Goo
>>
>>"No farm animals benefit from farming." - Goo
>>
>>"The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
>>experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
>>whatever, and certainly cannot be used to justify the
>>breeding of livestock" - Goo
>>
>>"It is not "better" in any moral way, and not in *any* way
>>at all to the animal itself, that the animal exists." - Goo
>>
>>"The meaningless fact-lette that farm animals "get
>>to experience life" deserves no consideration when
>>asking whether or not it is moral to kill them. Zero." - Goo
>>
>>"It is completely UNIMPORTANT, morally, that "billions
>>of animals" at any point "get to experience life."
>>ZERO importance to it." - Goo
>>¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>
>All true statements, *Goo*.

We know you agree with yourself about all of it Goob, but you seem to want
to try pretending you don't agree with yourself about something. Can you tell us
what you think it is Goo, or don't you know what you think you disagree with
yourself about?

dh

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Dec 10, 2012, 4:53:03 PM12/10/12
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:56 -0800, Goo wrote:
>>"It is morally wrong, in an absolute sense - unjust, in other
>>words - if humans kill animals they don't need to kill, i.e. not
>>in self defense. There's your answer. " - Goo
>>
>>"Life "justifying" death is the
>>stupidest goddamned thing you ever wrote." - Goo
>>
>>"NO livestock benefit from being farmed." - Goo
>>
>>"No farm animals benefit from farming." - Goo
>>
>>"There is nothing to "appreciate" about the livestock "getting
>>to experience life" - Goo
>>
>>"Shut the fuck up about "consideration" for "their lives"" - Goo
>>
>>"the nutritionally unnecessary choice deliberately to kill an animal
>>ALWAYS causes a moral harm greater in magnitude than . . . the
>>moral "benefit" realized by the animal in existing at all" - Goo
>>
>>"the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude
>>than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Goo
>>
>>"no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate killing
>>of the animals erases all of it." - Goo
>>
>>"it is not "better" that the animal exist, no matter
>>its quality of live" - Goo
>>
>>"It is not "better" in any moral way, and not in *any* way
>>at all to the animal itself, that the animal exists." - Goo
>>
>>"logically one MUST
>>conclude that not raising them in the first place is the
>>ethically superior choice." - Goo
>>
>>"People who don't want them to exist should be "vegans".
>>"Vegans" aren't interested in contributing to lives of any
>>quality for farm animals: they don't want there to be farm
>>animals." - Goo
>>
>>""Veg*nism" certainly doesn't harm any living farm animals.
>>And if everyone adopted "veg*nism", no farm animals would
>>live in bad conditions." - Goo
>>
>>"you MUST believe that it makes moral sense not
>>to raise the animals as the only way to prevent the harm that
>>results from killing them." - Goo
>>
>>""Getting to experience life" has no significance." - Goo
>>
>>"the "getting to experience life" deserves NO moral
>>consideration, and is given none; the deliberate killing
>>of animals for use by humans DOES deserve moral
>>consideration, and gets it." - Goo
>>
>>""giving them life" does NOT mitigate the wrongness of
>>their deaths" - Goo
>>
>>"Causing animals to be born and "get to experience life"
>>(in Fuckwit's wretched prose) is no mitigation at all for
>>killing them." - Goo
>>
>>>> >>   You asked what I think are the best objections to "ar", and I
>>>> >> gave you my answer.
>>>>
>>>> > You gave me a partial answer, and refused to clarify it any further.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, because you already know my objections and the reasons for them in
>>>> great detail.
>>>
>>>I've got some idea of what your objections would be. I don't know in
>>>great detail.
>>
>We see that

Yet again Goober you act like you want people to think you disagree with
yourself about something. Don't you know what it is Goo? These are all YOUR
quotes so when you lie that they're not you automatically lose by forfeit Goob,
but the lies you tell suggest you want people to think you disagree with
yourself about something. What do you want us to think you disagree with
yourself about Goo, and how do you want us to think you disagree?

dh

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Dec 10, 2012, 4:53:39 PM12/10/12
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:57 -0800, Goo wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:15:00 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:16:23 -0800, Goo wussed:
>>>On 12/3/2012 1:12 PM, Rupert challenged:
>>>> On Dec 3, 9:59 pm, Goo wussed:
>>>>> On 12/3/2012 12:56 PM, Rupert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay. So what are these core premises that you have in mind?
>>>>>
>>>>> We've been over all this before; now you're just trying to waste my
>>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> No, I'm not; I'm trying to get you to fulfil your obligation to state
>>>> your view clearly.
>>>
>>>No, you're not - you're trying to waste my time. I have discussed
>>>everything about this, in detail and with you specifically, many times
>>>over the years. You know everything I think on it. Now, you're just
>>>trying to waste my time. Fuck off, bitch.
>>
>> LOL!!! You have no opposition to elimination as I've been pointing out and
>>you've been demonstrating for years Goob. You can't even pretend that you do,
>>Goo.
>
>Of course

Since you have none you can't even pretend you do, Goo. If you had anything
then you could at least try to pretend a little bit, but we see you've got
nothing at all Goob.

dh

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Dec 10, 2012, 4:53:47 PM12/10/12
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:54 -0800, Goo wrote:

> It's all about *Goo*;

"I consume meat. I consume it daily - I can't even remember a day in my life
when I didn't." - Goo

>nothing about animals.

George Plimpton

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Dec 10, 2012, 5:49:25 PM12/10/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:54 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>
>> The only objection Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - has ever made to "ar"
>> is thathe would no longer be able to consume meat. It's all about *Goo*;
>> nothing about animals.
>
> [cracker nonsense]

*Goo* admits that it's all about him, and not about the animals at all.


George Plimpton

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Dec 10, 2012, 5:49:26 PM12/10/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:57 -0800, George A. Plimpton wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:15:00 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>
>>> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:16:23 -0800, Goo wussed:
>>>> On 12/3/2012 1:12 PM, Rupert presented no challenge:
>>>>> On Dec 3, 9:59 pm, George B. Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/3/2012 12:56 PM, Rupert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay. So what are these core premises that you have in mind?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We've been over all this before; now you're just trying to waste my
>>>>>> time.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I'm not; I'm trying to get you to fulfil your obligation to state
>>>>> your view clearly.
>>>>
>>>> No, you're not - you're trying to waste my time. I have discussed
>>>> everything about this, in detail and with you specifically, many times
>>>> over the years. You know everything I think on it. Now, you're just
>>>> trying to waste my time. Fuck off, bitch.
>>>
>>> LOL!!! You have no opposition to elimination as I've been pointing out and
>>> you've been demonstrating for years Goob. You can't even pretend that you do,
>>> Goo.
>>
>> Of course I have, *Goo* - but it doesn't involve placing any value on "future
>> farm animals" "getting to experience life", because that has no value. If no
>> additional livestock animals were bred, starting today, it would be meaningless
>> that no more livestock would "get to experience life." That's a fact, *Goo* -
>> it would have no meaning at all.
>
> Since you have none you

I have it, *Goo*. I have valid, logical, sound opposition to "ar". You
have nothing but your own vulgar and crass self interest, of which
you're ashamed.

George Plimpton

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Dec 10, 2012, 5:49:26 PM12/10/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:


> "It is morally wrong, in an absolute sense - unjust, in other
> words - if humans kill animals they don't need to kill, i.e. not
> in self defense. There's your answer. "

Fake quote.

>
> "Life "justifying" death is the
> stupidest goddamned thing you ever wrote."

True.

>
> "NO livestock benefit from being farmed."

True.


>
> "No farm animals benefit from farming."

True.


>
> "There is nothing to "appreciate" about the livestock "getting
> to experience life"

True.


> "Shut the fuck up about "consideration" for "their lives""

You should shut the fuck up, *Goo* - you have no "appreciation" for
their lives; only the products.


> "the nutritionally unnecessary choice deliberately

Not quote.


> "the moral harm caused by

Not a quote.


> "no matter how "decent" the conditions are,

Not a quote.


> "it is not "better" that

Not a quote.


> "It is not "better" in any moral way, and not in *any* way
> at all to the animal itself, that the animal exists."

True.


> "logically one MUST
> conclude that

Not a quote.


> "People who don't want them to exist should be "vegans".
> "Vegans" aren't interested in contributing to lives of any
> quality for farm animals: they don't want there to be farm
> animals."

True.


> ""Veg*nism" certainly doesn't harm any living farm animals.
> And if everyone adopted "veg*nism", no farm animals would
> live in bad conditions."

True.


> "you MUST believe that it

Not a quote.


> ""Getting to experience life" has no significance."

True.


> "the "getting to experience life" deserves NO moral
> consideration,

Not a quote.


> ""giving them life" does NOT mitigate

Not a quote.


> "Causing animals to be born and "get to experience life"
> (in Fuckwit's wretched prose) is no mitigation at all for
> killing them."

True.


>>>>> You asked what I think are the best objections to "ar", and I
>>>>> gave you my answer.
>>>
>>>> You gave me a partial answer, and refused to clarify it any further.
>>>
>>> Yes, because you already know my objections and the reasons for them in
>>> great detail.
>>
>> I've got some idea of what your objections would be. I don't know in
>> great detail.
>
> We see that

George Plimpton

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Dec 10, 2012, 5:49:30 PM12/10/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:
> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:58 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:14:19 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 01:13:12 -0800 (PST), Rupert <rupertm...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4 Dez., 19:52, George A. Plimpton wrote:
>>>>> On 12/4/2012 10:48 AM, Rupert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am curious to know something. Do you think that animal suffering
>>>>>> doesn't matter at all? That it's totally irrational to care about it
>>>>>> in the least?
>>>>>
>>>>> You've asked me that before, and I answered.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't suppose you would be willing to give some handy Google search
>>>> string whereby I can find your previous answer?
>>> _________________________________________________________
>>> "the nutritionally unnecessary choice deliberately

Not a quote.


>>>
>>> "the moral harm caused by killing them is

Not a quote.


>>>
>>> "no matter how "decent" the conditions are,

Not a quote.


>>> "it is not "better" that the animal exist, no matter
>>> its quality of live"

Not a quote, although it *is* a true statement.


>>> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>>
>> Not a quote.
>
> They're all quotes

They're not quotes.


>>> George TELLS US that
>>
>> I tell you - I have *proved* to you, *Goo* - that existence, or "getting to experience life", is not a benefit. It isn't, *Goo* - it cannot be.
>
> That it means nothing to

It means nothing - period. It means nothing to anyone, *Goo*.



>>> _________________________________________________________
>>> "NO livestock benefit from being farmed."

True.


>>> "No farm animals benefit from farming."

True.


>>>
>>> "The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
>>> experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
>>> whatever, and certainly cannot be used to justify the
>>> breeding of livestock"

True.



>>> "It is not "better" in any moral way, and not in *any* way
>>> at all to the animal itself, that the animal exists."

True.


>>> "The meaningless fact-lette that farm animals "get
>>> to experience life" deserves no consideration when
>>> asking whether or not it is moral to kill them. Zero."

True.


>>> "It is completely UNIMPORTANT, morally, that "billions
>>> of animals" at any point "get to experience life."
>>> ZERO importance to it." - Goo
>>> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>>
>> All true statements, *Goo*.
>
> We know you agree with

They're all true statements, *Goo* - all of them *proved* to be true.

dh

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Dec 12, 2012, 3:59:29 PM12/12/12
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:30 -0800, Goo wussed:

>On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:51:52 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:58 -0800, Goo wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:14:19 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 01:13:12 -0800 (PST), Rupert <rupertm...@yahoo.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 4 Dez., 19:52, Goo wussed horribly:
>>>>>> On 12/4/2012 10:48 AM, Rupert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > I am curious to know something. Do you think that animal suffering
>>>>>> > doesn't matter at all? That it's totally irrational to care about it
>>>>>> > in the least?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You've asked me that before, and I answered.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't suppose you would be willing to give some handy Google search
>>>>>string whereby I can find your previous answer?
>>>>_________________________________________________________
>>>>"the nutritionally unnecessary choice deliberately to kill an animal
>>>>ALWAYS causes a moral harm greater in magnitude than . . . the
>>>>moral "benefit" realized by the animal in existing at all" - Goo
>>>>
>>>>"the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude
>>>>than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Goo
>>>>
>>>>"no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate killing
>>>>of the animals erases all of it." - Goo
>>>>
>>>>"it is not "better" that the animal exist, no matter
>>>>its quality of live" - Goo
>>>>¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>>>
>>>Not a quote.
>>
>> They're all quotes Goober and you agree with yourself about every one of
>>them. If you want to try to pretend you don't then YOU need to try explaining
>>how you want people to think you disagree with yourself about any of them, Goo.
>
>They're not quotes.

They're all quotes Goob AND you agree with yourself about every one of them.
Proved. Proved by YOU, Goo.

>>>> We see the Goober TELLS US that "quality of live" means nothing at all to
>>>>him.
>>>
>>>I tell you
>>
>> That it means nothing to you, Goo.
>>
>>>>In his attempts to support the misnomer Goo wants to reassure people that
>>>>regardless of how good it is for the animals:
>>>>_________________________________________________________
>>>>"NO livestock benefit from being farmed." - Goo
>>>>
>>>>"No farm animals benefit from farming." - Goo
>>>>
>>>>"The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
>>>>experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
>>>>whatever, and certainly cannot be used to justify the
>>>>breeding of livestock" - Goo
>>>>
>>>>"It is not "better" in any moral way, and not in *any* way
>>>>at all to the animal itself, that the animal exists." - Goo
>>>>
>>>>"The meaningless fact-lette that farm animals "get
>>>>to experience life" deserves no consideration when
>>>>asking whether or not it is moral to kill them. Zero." - Goo
>>>>
>>>>"It is completely UNIMPORTANT, morally, that "billions
>>>>of animals" at any point "get to experience life."
>>>>ZERO importance to it." - Goo
>>>>¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>>>
>>>All true statements, *Goo*.
>>
>> We know you agree with yourself about all of it Goob, but you seem to want
>>to try pretending you don't agree with yourself about something. Can you tell us
>>what you think it is Goo, or don't you know what you think you disagree with
>>yourself about?
>
>They're all true statements, *Goo* - all of them *proved* to be true.

What has been proven by YOU Goo is that you do agree with yourself about
every one of them, including the ones you're trying to lie about.

dh

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Dec 12, 2012, 3:59:37 PM12/12/12
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:26 -0800, Goo wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:39 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:57 -0800, Goo wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:15:00 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:16:23 -0800, Goo wussed:
>>>>>On 12/3/2012 1:12 PM, Rupert challenged:
>>>>>> On Dec 3, 9:59 pm, Goo wussed:
>>>>>>> On 12/3/2012 12:56 PM, Rupert wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay. So what are these core premises that you have in mind?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We've been over all this before; now you're just trying to waste my
>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I'm not; I'm trying to get you to fulfil your obligation to state
>>>>>> your view clearly.
>>>>>
>>>>>No, you're not - you're trying to waste my time. I have discussed
>>>>>everything about this, in detail and with you specifically, many times
>>>>>over the years. You know everything I think on it. Now, you're just
>>>>>trying to waste my time. Fuck off, bitch.
>>>>
>>>> LOL!!! You have no opposition to elimination as I've been pointing out and
>>>>you've been demonstrating for years Goob. You can't even pretend that you do,
>>>>Goo.
>>>
>>>Of course
>>
>> Since you have none you can't even pretend you do, Goo. If you had anything
>>then you could at least try to pretend a little bit, but we see you've got
>>nothing at all Goob.
>
>I ha

Provide some examples or be again known a liar, Goo.

dh

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Dec 12, 2012, 3:59:42 PM12/12/12
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:25 -0800, the Goober admitted:

>On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:47 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:54 -0800, Goo wrote:
>>
>>> It's all about *Goo*;
>>
>>"I consume meat. I consume it daily - I can't even remember a day in my life
>>when I didn't." - Goo
>>
>>>nothing about animals.
>>
>>"When considering your food choices ethically, assign
>>ZERO weight to the morally empty fact that choosing to
>>eat meat causes animals to be bred into existence." - Goo
>
>Goo admits that it's all about him, and not about the animals at all.

LOL!!! You proved it and now you admitted it Goo. Hilarious! What makes it
most hilarious Goober is how much you've outstupided yourself. Though you're
some sort of veg*n misnomer addict you're trying very piss poorly to pretend
you're a meat consumer in an attempt to win the respect of true misnomer
opponents. LOL...you try in your piss poor attempts to portray yourself as an AW
supporter even though what you actually do CLEARLY is in opposition to AW in
favor of elimination. LOL...so it's especially funny that you can't even pretend
to care about the animals in this little fantasy you're trying to get away with
trying to pretend you give some half a shit about AW...LOL... Goo, you REALLY
suck at this!

BTW Goo, your inability to care about the animals is yet another way you
reveal yourself. You misnomer addicts can ONLY care about YOUR OWN interests in
promoting acceptance of elimination, and THAT of course necessarily won't allow
you people to consider the animals as everybody else can:

"There is nothing to "appreciate" about the livestock "getting
to experience life" - Goo

"Shut the fuck up about "consideration" for "their lives"" - Goo

"The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
whatever, and certainly cannot be used to justify the
breeding of livestock" - Goo

George Plimpton

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Dec 12, 2012, 4:55:06 PM12/12/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:25 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:47 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>
>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:54 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>
>>>> The only objection Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - has ever made to "ar"
>>>> is that he would no longer be able to consume meat. It's all about *Goo*;
>>>> nothing about animals.
>>>
>>> [cracker nonsense - dismissed]
>>
>> *Goo* admits that it's all about him, and not about the animals at all.
>
> LOL!!! You proved

I proved - beyond dispute - that you have no valid *ethical* objection
to "ar", *Goo*.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

George Plimpton

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Dec 12, 2012, 4:55:08 PM12/12/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:26 -0800, George Plimpton slapped Fuckwit David Harrison silly:
>
>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:39 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>
>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:57 -0800, George Plimpton stuck a red-hot poker up Fuckwit's gaping HIV-oozing asshole:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:15:00 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:16:23 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/3/2012 1:12 PM, Rupert presented no challenge:
>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 9:59 pm, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 12/3/2012 12:56 PM, Rupert wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Okay. So what are these core premises that you have in mind?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We've been over all this before; now you're just trying to waste my
>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, I'm not; I'm trying to get you to fulfil your obligation to state
>>>>>>> your view clearly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, you're not - you're trying to waste my time. I have discussed
>>>>>> everything about this, in detail and with you specifically, many times
>>>>>> over the years. You know everything I think on it. Now, you're just
>>>>>> trying to waste my time. Fuck off, bitch.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have no opposition to
>>>>
>>>> Of course I have, *Goo* - but it doesn't involve placing any value on "future
>>>> farm animals" "getting to experience life", because that has no value. If no
>>>> additional livestock animals were bred, starting today, it would be meaningless
>>>> that no more livestock would "get to experience life." That's a fact, *Goo* -
>>>> it would have no meaning at all.
>>>
>>> Since you have none
>>
>> I have it, *Goo*. I have valid, logical, sound opposition to "ar". You have
>> nothing but your own vulgar and crass self interest, of which you're ashamed.
>
> Provide some examples

I have. You've seen them. You've been crushed by them.

*YOU*, *Goo*, have no valid objection to "ar". That's a fact - proved.

George Plimpton

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Dec 12, 2012, 4:55:08 PM12/12/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:
> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:58 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:14:19 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 01:13:12 -0800 (PST), Rupert <rupertm...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4 Dez., 19:52, George A. Plimpton wrote:
>>>>> On 12/4/2012 10:48 AM, Rupert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am curious to know something. Do you think that animal suffering
>>>>>> doesn't matter at all? That it's totally irrational to care about it
>>>>>> in the least?
>>>>>
>>>>> You've asked me that before, and I answered.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't suppose you would be willing to give some handy Google search
>>>> string whereby I can find your previous answer?
>>> _________________________________________________________
>>> "the nutritionally unnecessary choice deliberately

Not a quote.


>>>
>>> "the moral harm caused by killing them is

Not a quote.


>>>
>>> "no matter how "decent" the conditions are,

Not a quote.


>>> "it is not "better" that the animal exist, no matter
>>> its quality of live"

Not a quote, although it *is* a true statement.


>>> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>>
>> Not a quote.
>
> They're all quotes

They're not quotes.


>>> George TELLS US that
>>
>> I tell you - I have *proved* to you, *Goo* - that existence, or "getting to experience life", is not a benefit. It isn't, *Goo* - it cannot be.
>
> That it means nothing to

It means nothing - period. It means nothing to anyone, *Goo*.



>>> _________________________________________________________
>>> "NO livestock benefit from being farmed."

True.


>>> "No farm animals benefit from farming."

True.


>>>
>>> "The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
>>> experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
>>> whatever, and certainly cannot be used to justify the
>>> breeding of livestock"

True.



>>> "It is not "better" in any moral way, and not in *any* way
>>> at all to the animal itself, that the animal exists."

True.


>>> "The meaningless fact-lette that farm animals "get
>>> to experience life" deserves no consideration when
>>> asking whether or not it is moral to kill them. Zero."

True.


>>> "It is completely UNIMPORTANT, morally, that "billions
>>> of animals" at any point "get to experience life."
>>> ZERO importance to it." - Goo
>>> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>>
>> All true statements, *Goo*.
>
> We know you agree with

dh

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Dec 13, 2012, 3:01:47 PM12/13/12
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:55:08 -0800, Goo proved he's lying again:

>On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:59:37 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:26 -0800, Goo wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:39 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:57 -0800, Goo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:15:00 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:16:23 -0800, Goo wussed:
>>>>>>>On 12/3/2012 1:12 PM, Rupert challenged:
>>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 9:59 pm, Goo wussed:
>>>>>>>>> On 12/3/2012 12:56 PM, Rupert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Okay. So what are these core premises that you have in mind?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We've been over all this before; now you're just trying to waste my
>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, I'm not; I'm trying to get you to fulfil your obligation to state
>>>>>>>> your view clearly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No, you're not - you're trying to waste my time. I have discussed
>>>>>>>everything about this, in detail and with you specifically, many times
>>>>>>>over the years. You know everything I think on it. Now, you're just
>>>>>>>trying to waste my time. Fuck off, bitch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL!!! You have no opposition to elimination as I've been pointing out and
>>>>>>you've been demonstrating for years Goob. You can't even pretend that you do,
>>>>>>Goo.
>>>>>
>>>>>Of course
>>>>
>>>> Since you have none you can't even pretend you do, Goo. If you had anything
>>>>then you could at least try to pretend a little bit, but we see you've got
>>>>nothing at all Goob.
>>>
>>>I ha
>>
>> Provide some examples or be again known a liar, Goo.
>
>I

You are again known to be a liar, Goo.

dh

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Dec 13, 2012, 3:01:55 PM12/13/12
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:55:06 -0800, Goo sucked:

>On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:59:42 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:25 -0800, the Goober admitted:
>>
>>>On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:47 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:54 -0800, Goo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's all about *Goo*;
>>>>
>>>>"I consume meat. I consume it daily - I can't even remember a day in my life
>>>>when I didn't." - Goo
>>>>
>>>>>nothing about animals.
>>>>
>>>>"When considering your food choices ethically, assign
>>>>ZERO weight to the morally empty fact that choosing to
>>>>eat meat causes animals to be bred into existence." - Goo
>>>
>>>Goo admits that it's all about him, and not about the animals at all.
>>
>> LOL!!! You proved it and now you admitted it Goo. Hilarious! What makes it
>>most hilarious Goober is how much you've outstupided yourself. Though you're
>>some sort of veg*n misnomer addict you're trying very piss poorly to pretend
>>you're a meat consumer in an attempt to win the respect of true misnomer
>>opponents. LOL...you try in your piss poor attempts to portray yourself as an AW
>>supporter even though what you actually do CLEARLY is in opposition to AW in
>>favor of elimination. LOL...so it's especially funny that you can't even pretend
>>to care about the animals in this little fantasy you're trying to get away with
>>trying to pretend you give some half a shit about AW...LOL... Goo, you REALLY
>>suck at this!
>
>I proved - beyond dispute

It's beyond dispute that you're a blatant liar AND that you suck at this,
Goo.

George Plimpton

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Dec 13, 2012, 5:12:42 PM12/13/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:55:06 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:59:42 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:25 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:47 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:54 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The only objection Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - has ever made to "ar"
>>>>>> is that he would no longer be able to consume meat. It's all about *Goo*;
>>>>>> nothing about animals.
>>>>>
>>>>> [cracker nonsense - dismissed]
>>>>
>>>> *Goo* admits that it's all about him, and not about the animals at all.
>>>
>>> LOL!!! You proved
>>
>> I proved - beyond dispute - that you have no valid *ethical* objection to "ar", *Goo*.
>>
>> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

>
> It's beyond dispute that

It's beyond dispute that you have *NO* valid ethical objection to "ar",
*Goo*. It's only about your food - that's all.

George Plimpton

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Dec 13, 2012, 5:12:42 PM12/13/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:55:08 -0800, George Plimpton proved Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - is lying again:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:59:37 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with: :
>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:26 -0800, George Plimpton proved Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - is lying again:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:39 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with: :
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:57 -0800, George Plimpton proved Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - is lying again:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:15:00 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with: :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:16:23 -0800, George Plimpton proved Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - is lying again:
>>>>>>>> On 12/3/2012 1:12 PM, Rupert lied and presented no challenge:
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 9:59 pm, George Plimpton proved Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - is lying again:
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/3/2012 12:56 PM, Rupert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. So what are these core premises that you have in mind?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We've been over all this before; now you're just trying to waste my
>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not; I'm trying to get you to fulfil your obligation to state
>>>>>>>>> your view clearly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, you're not - you're trying to waste my time. I have discussed
>>>>>>>> everything about this, in detail and with you specifically, many times
>>>>>>>> over the years. You know everything I think on it. Now, you're just
>>>>>>>> trying to waste my time. Fuck off, bitch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have no opposition to elimination as
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course I have, *Goo* - but it doesn't involve placing any value on "future
>>>>>> farm animals" "getting to experience life", because that has no value. If no
>>>>>> additional livestock animals were bred, starting today, it would be meaningless
>>>>>> that no more livestock would "get to experience life." That's a fact, *Goo* -
>>>>>> it would have no meaning at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since you have none
>>>>
>>>> I have it, *Goo*. I have valid, logical, sound opposition to "ar". You have
>>>> nothing but your own vulgar and crass self interest, of which you're ashamed.
>>>
>>> Provide some examples
>>
>> I have. You've seen them. You've been crushed by them.
>>
>> *YOU*, *Goo*, have no valid objection to "ar". That's a fact - proved.
>
> You are again

I have again showed you to be a liar, *Goo*.

George Plimpton

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Dec 13, 2012, 5:19:32 PM12/13/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:55:06 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:59:42 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:25 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:47 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:54 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The only objection Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - has ever made to "ar"
>>>>>> is that he would no longer be able to consume meat. It's all about *Goo*;
>>>>>> nothing about animals.
>>>>>
>>>>> [cracker nonsense - dismissed]
>>>>
>>>> *Goo* admits that it's all about him, and not about the animals at all.
>>>
>>> LOL!!! You proved
>>
>> I proved - beyond dispute - that you have no valid *ethical* objection to "ar", *Goo*.
>>
>> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

>
> It's beyond dispute that

George Plimpton

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Dec 13, 2012, 5:19:34 PM12/13/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:55:08 -0800, George Plimpton proved Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - is lying again:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:59:37 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with: :
>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:26 -0800, George Plimpton proved Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - is lying again:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:39 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with: :
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:57 -0800, George Plimpton proved Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - is lying again:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:15:00 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with: :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:16:23 -0800, George Plimpton proved Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - is lying again:
>>>>>>>> On 12/3/2012 1:12 PM, Rupert lied and presented no challenge:
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 9:59 pm, George Plimpton proved Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - is lying again:
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/3/2012 12:56 PM, Rupert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. So what are these core premises that you have in mind?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We've been over all this before; now you're just trying to waste my
>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not; I'm trying to get you to fulfil your obligation to state
>>>>>>>>> your view clearly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, you're not - you're trying to waste my time. I have discussed
>>>>>>>> everything about this, in detail and with you specifically, many times
>>>>>>>> over the years. You know everything I think on it. Now, you're just
>>>>>>>> trying to waste my time. Fuck off, bitch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have no opposition to elimination as
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course I have, *Goo* - but it doesn't involve placing any value on "future
>>>>>> farm animals" "getting to experience life", because that has no value. If no
>>>>>> additional livestock animals were bred, starting today, it would be meaningless
>>>>>> that no more livestock would "get to experience life." That's a fact, *Goo* -
>>>>>> it would have no meaning at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since you have none
>>>>
>>>> I have it, *Goo*. I have valid, logical, sound opposition to "ar". You have
>>>> nothing but your own vulgar and crass self interest, of which you're ashamed.
>>>
>>> Provide some examples
>>
>> I have. You've seen them. You've been crushed by them.
>>
>> *YOU*, *Goo*, have no valid objection to "ar". That's a fact - proved.
>

dh

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Dec 17, 2012, 2:42:06 PM12/17/12
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2012, Goo confessed he has no opposition to the misnomer:

>On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:01:55 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:55:06 -0800, Goo sucked:
>>
>>>On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:59:42 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:25 -0800, the Goober admitted:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:47 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:54 -0800, Goo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's all about *Goo*;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"I consume meat. I consume it daily - I can't even remember a day in my life
>>>>>>when I didn't." - Goo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>nothing about animals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"When considering your food choices ethically, assign
>>>>>>ZERO weight to the morally empty fact that choosing to
>>>>>>eat meat causes animals to be bred into existence." - Goo
>>>>>
>>>>>Goo admits that it's all about him, and not about the animals at all.
>>>>
>>>> LOL!!! You proved it and now you admitted it Goo. Hilarious! What makes it
>>>>most hilarious Goober is how much you've outstupided yourself. Though you're
>>>>some sort of veg*n misnomer addict you're trying very piss poorly to pretend
>>>>you're a meat consumer in an attempt to win the respect of true misnomer
>>>>opponents. LOL...you try in your piss poor attempts to portray yourself as an AW
>>>>supporter even though what you actually do CLEARLY is in opposition to AW in
>>>>favor of elimination. LOL...so it's especially funny that you can't even pretend
>>>>to care about the animals in this little fantasy you're trying to get away with
>>>>trying to pretend you give some half a shit about AW...LOL... Goo, you REALLY
>>>>suck at this!
>>>
>>>I proved - beyond dispute
>>
>> It's beyond dispute that you're a blatant liar AND that you suck at this,
>>Goo.
>
>It's beyond dispute that you have *NO* valid ethical objection to "ar",
>Goo.

YOU have proven that you have none, Goo.

George Plimpton

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Dec 17, 2012, 3:12:52 PM12/17/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Thu, 13 Dec 2012, George Plimpton showed he has solid opposition to "ar" (unlike *Goo* Fuckwit David Harrison):
>
>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:01:55 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>
>>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:55:06 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:59:42 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:25 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:47 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:54 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The only objection Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - has ever made to "ar"
>>>>>>>> is that he would no longer be able to consume meat. It's all about *Goo*;
>>>>>>>> nothing about animals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [cracker nonsense - dismissed]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Goo* admits that it's all about him, and not about the animals at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL!!! You proved
>>>>
>>>> I proved - beyond dispute - that you have no valid *ethical* objection to "ar", *Goo*.
>>>>
>>>> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> It's beyond dispute that
>>
>> It's beyond dispute that you have *NO* valid ethical objection to "ar", Goo.
>
> YOU have proven that.

I know. We all know I have proved that you have *NO* valid ethical

George Plimpton

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Dec 17, 2012, 9:56:44 PM12/17/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:55:06 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:59:42 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:25 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:47 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:54 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The only objection Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - has ever made to "ar"
>>>>>> is that he would no longer be able to consume meat. It's all about *Goo*;
>>>>>> nothing about animals.
>>>>>
>>>>> [cracker nonsense - dismissed]
>>>>
>>>> *Goo* admits that it's all about him, and not about the animals at all.
>>>
>>> LOL!!! You proved
>>
>> I proved - beyond dispute - that you have no valid *ethical* objection to "ar", *Goo*.
>>
>> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

>
> It's beyond dispute that

George Plimpton

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Dec 17, 2012, 9:56:45 PM12/17/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:55:08 -0800, George Plimpton proved Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - is lying again:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:59:37 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with: :
>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:26 -0800, George Plimpton proved Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - is lying again:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:39 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with: :
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:57 -0800, George Plimpton proved Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - is lying again:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:15:00 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with: :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:16:23 -0800, George Plimpton proved Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - is lying again:
>>>>>>>> On 12/3/2012 1:12 PM, Rupert lied and presented no challenge:
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 9:59 pm, George Plimpton proved Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - is lying again:
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/3/2012 12:56 PM, Rupert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. So what are these core premises that you have in mind?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We've been over all this before; now you're just trying to waste my
>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not; I'm trying to get you to fulfil your obligation to state
>>>>>>>>> your view clearly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, you're not - you're trying to waste my time. I have discussed
>>>>>>>> everything about this, in detail and with you specifically, many times
>>>>>>>> over the years. You know everything I think on it. Now, you're just
>>>>>>>> trying to waste my time. Fuck off, bitch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have no opposition to elimination as
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course I have, *Goo* - but it doesn't involve placing any value on "future
>>>>>> farm animals" "getting to experience life", because that has no value. If no
>>>>>> additional livestock animals were bred, starting today, it would be meaningless
>>>>>> that no more livestock would "get to experience life." That's a fact, *Goo* -
>>>>>> it would have no meaning at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since you have none
>>>>
>>>> I have it, *Goo*. I have valid, logical, sound opposition to "ar". You have
>>>> nothing but your own vulgar and crass self interest, of which you're ashamed.
>>>
>>> Provide some examples
>>
>> I have. You've seen them. You've been crushed by them.
>>
>> *YOU*, *Goo*, have no valid objection to "ar". That's a fact - proved.
>

dh

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Dec 20, 2012, 5:28:01 PM12/20/12
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:12:52 -0800, Goo agreed:

>On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:42:06 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 13 Dec 2012, Goo confessed he has no opposition to the misnomer:
>>
>>>On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:01:55 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:55:06 -0800, Goo sucked:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:59:42 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:25 -0800, the Goober admitted:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:47 -0500, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:54 -0800, Goo wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's all about *Goo*;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"I consume meat. I consume it daily - I can't even remember a day in my life
>>>>>>>>when I didn't." - Goo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>nothing about animals.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"When considering your food choices ethically, assign
>>>>>>>>ZERO weight to the morally empty fact that choosing to
>>>>>>>>eat meat causes animals to be bred into existence." - Goo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Goo admits that it's all about him, and not about the animals at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL!!! You proved it and now you admitted it Goo. Hilarious! What makes it
>>>>>>most hilarious Goober is how much you've outstupided yourself. Though you're
>>>>>>some sort of veg*n misnomer addict you're trying very piss poorly to pretend
>>>>>>you're a meat consumer in an attempt to win the respect of true misnomer
>>>>>>opponents. LOL...you try in your piss poor attempts to portray yourself as an AW
>>>>>>supporter even though what you actually do CLEARLY is in opposition to AW in
>>>>>>favor of elimination. LOL...so it's especially funny that you can't even pretend
>>>>>>to care about the animals in this little fantasy you're trying to get away with
>>>>>>trying to pretend you give some half a shit about AW...LOL... Goo, you REALLY
>>>>>>suck at this!
>>>>>
>>>>>I proved - beyond dispute
>>>>
>>>> It's beyond dispute that you're a blatant liar AND that you suck at this,
>>>>Goo.
>>>
>>>It's beyond dispute that you have *NO* valid ethical objection to "ar",
>>>Goo.
>>
>> YOU have proven that you have none, Goo.
>
>I know. We all know I have proved that you have *NO* valid ethical
>objection to "ar" [elimination], Goo.

You prove it yourself Goo, every time you're challenged to present some
objection and you're unable to make an attempt. I'll make you lose that
challenge again right now.

Goober, try to present some objections to the elimination objective. Go:


You lose, Goo.

George Plimpton

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Dec 20, 2012, 6:09:50 PM12/20/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - agreed he can't say what's
objectionable about "ar":
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:12:52 -0800, George Plimpton agreed that *Goo* is a fuckwit:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:42:06 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - agreed he can't say what's objectionable about "ar":
>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2012, George Plimpton agreed that *Goo* is a fuckwit:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:01:55 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - agreed he can't say what's objectionable about "ar":
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:55:06 -0800, George Plimpton agreed that *Goo* is a fuckwit:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:59:42 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - agreed he can't say what's objectionable about "ar":
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:25 -0800, George Plimpton agreed that *Goo* is a fuckwit:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:47 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - agreed he can't say what's objectionable about "ar":
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:54 -0800, George Plimpton agreed that *Goo* is a fuckwit:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The only objection Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - has ever made to "ar"
>>>>>>>>>> is that he would no longer be able to consume meat. It's all about *Goo*;
>>>>>>>>>> nothing about animals.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [cracker bullshit snipped]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Goo* admits that it's all about him, and not about the animals at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You proved
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I proved - beyond dispute - that you have no valid *ethical* objection to "ar", *Goo*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's beyond dispute that
>>>>
>>>> It's beyond dispute that you have *NO* valid ethical objection to "ar", *Goo*.
>>>
>>> YOU have proven that.
>>
>> I know. We all know I have proved that you have *NO* valid ethical
>> objection to "ar", *Goo*.
>
> You prove it yourself

No, *YOU* prove it, *Goo* - you prove it by your failure *ever* to say
what is objectionable about "ar". *I* have said what is objectionable
about it, *Goo*, but you never have...because you can't.

dh

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Dec 24, 2012, 4:19:55 PM12/24/12
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:09:50 -0800, Goo agreed:
>*YOU* prove it, Goo - you prove it by your failure

You prove it not only by your complete failure to provide any objections
Goo, but also by the countless times you've tried to encourage its acceptance.
You have let Rupert down Goober, and your boys, and anyone else who goes along
with your piss poor attempt to pretend you're not a misnomer addict. In contrast
to that though Goob, you've certainly supported my suspicion that you really are
the dishonest eliminationist you so very clearly appear to be from my pov.

dh

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Dec 24, 2012, 4:20:18 PM12/24/12
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:09:50 -0800, Goo wrote:

>*I* have said what is objectionable about it

LOL!!!

I mean: What, Goo?

George Plimpton

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Dec 25, 2012, 2:55:56 AM12/25/12
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Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of
futility alive with:

> On Thu, 13 Dec 2012, George Plimpton showed he has solid opposition to "ar" (unlike *Goo* Fuckwit David Harrison):
>
>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:01:55 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>
>>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:55:06 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:59:42 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:49:25 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:53:47 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - kept his fourteen year string of futility alive with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:54 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The only objection Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - has ever made to "ar"
>>>>>>>> is that he would no longer be able to consume meat. It's all about *Goo*;
>>>>>>>> nothing about animals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [cracker nonsense - dismissed]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Goo* admits that it's all about him, and not about the animals at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL!!! You proved
>>>>
>>>> I proved - beyond dispute - that you have no valid *ethical* objection to "ar", *Goo*.
>>>>
>>>> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> It's beyond dispute that
>>
>> It's beyond dispute that you have *NO* valid ethical objection to "ar", Goo.
>
> YOU have proven that.

I know. We all know I have proved that you have *NO* valid ethical
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