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L.K.

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.
Aesop

Thanks
Laura

k...@springhaven.springhaven.org

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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In article <6tb5t3$n1h$1...@supernews.com>, L.K. <r...@green.ca> wrote:
>Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.
> Aesop

how's the rest of the fable go?

what a thing means may depend on context, but i suspect this
is a variant of a "bird in hand is worth two in the bush"
or "the grass is greener on the other side."


peter li'ir key
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Spumoni

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Sep 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/12/98
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Dear Laura,

L.K. <r...@green.ca> wrote in article <6tb5t3$n1h$1...@supernews.com>...


> Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.
> Aesop
>

Reminds me of the Zen admonition not to confuse the finger pointing toward
it as the moon.

Best,
Lou

shen

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Sep 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/12/98
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hey, i was gonna say that, but as usual i am too late.... :)

so instead i second the motion!

--
"we have gotten so good at the business of living, that we have
forgotten the reasons for which we live."
shane
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http://www.xmission.com/~shen/

JayBuzin

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Sep 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/12/98
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Feedback loops and squeals
when the microphone is held near the speaker.

>> > Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.
>> > Aesop

The so-called sub-stance
could be Te scene of the grounds of Being.
The many appears as real
yet is but a shadow of the One.

One acts upon the stages of time-spacing.
Dream-wisps of Non-being think they matter.

"The Outline asked the Shadow, 'A few minutes ago
you were looking down, now you are looking up;
a few minutes ago your hair was piled up, now it is
hanging down,; a few minutes ago you were sitting down,
now you are standing up; a few minutes ago you were
walking, now you are standing still. Why?
Shadow said, 'Petty! Petty! Why do you ask me
about all this? This is all true to me but I haven't a clue
why I do it. I am like the shell of a cicada or the shed skin
of a snake: something which seems real but is not. In the
sunlight I appear, in darkness I disappear. However,
do you think I arise from these? For they are themselves
dependent upon others. When it comes, I come also.
when it goes, I go with it. If they arise from the mighty yang,
so do I. However, there is no point in asking
about the mighty yang.'"
-CT 27 (Palmer's translation)

Omnivore

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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Spumoni wrote:
>
> Dear Laura,
>
> L.K. <r...@green.ca> wrote in article <6tb5t3$n1h$1...@supernews.com>...
> > Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.
> > Aesop
> >
>
> Reminds me of the Zen admonition not to confuse the finger pointing toward
> it as the moon.
>
> Best,
> Lou


Brings to mind of one who, seeking happiness, persues that which
pleases the senses and things to laugh at.
One might seek feeling of security in a shotgun and an elaborate
burglar alarm system and in hiring more cops.


--
"If I had to baptise a Jew, I would take him to the bridge of the Elbe,
hang a
stone around his neck and push him over with the words 'I baptise
thee in the
name of Abraham.'" (Martin Luther, in his book, "The Jews and Their
Lies",1543)

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