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TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Apr 25, 2012, 9:22:18 PM4/25/12
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On Apr 25, 1:35 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 12:27 pm, Billy <wildbi...@withoutta.net> wrote:

> > In article
> > <b378a946-43fe-4819-b081-90272d5ad...@s27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> > "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

> > <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On Apr 2, 8:57 am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hoodies tend to hide your face and shouldn't be worn with casual
> > > > > disregard for other people's reaction. Maybe a hoodie is OK but
> > > > > wearing the hood around is not.

> > > > TM lives in Miami

> > > > yeah Yahoo pubbed a Martin/hoodie photo and at 6' if he attacked me I shoot
> > > > him:
> > > > a leg or shoulder would suffice bjut thus isnot always possible.

> > > > good photo example, tilting away from Martin as innocent.

> > > > photolineups are a PITA for 'people' like Zimmerman who is obviuosly a fat
> > > > pig creep waiting for sonmeoine to screw uo so he can establish his manhood
> > > > by shooting, killing a PERP.

> > > > Baretta was a good example. Obviously looking at Baretta, he's innocent,
> > > > but TV residue locked him up.

> > > > Milly Cyrus walks right ?

> > > > I wear long hair and beard. I am. But the rig is warm, I do animal
> > > > communications research, birds see me as a bird.

> > > > The Right often sees me as a hippie criminal, specing the Right's
> > > > brainwaves as criminals look like used car salesmen and tough jocks in the
> > > > motorcycle club mode.

> > > > Obviously a hoodie in Lincoln Nebraska....

> > > > Same for cycle clothing...DO IT !...specs you as a harmless nutto athletic
> > > > affording expensiver clo.

> > > Talking about communicating with animals, gang members are "pack
> > > animals" and you need to same strategy.

> > > Interesting that in the UK a hoodie is the bad guy himself...

> > > Mr Grayling denied that his plans amounted to a reversal of David
> > > Cameron¹s so-called Œhug a hoodie¹ campaign and shrugged off the
> > > suggestion that the new Tory stance was more like Œmug a hoodie¹.

> > > And this is an interesting comment...

> > > This really is financially prohibitive and impractical nor does it
> > > resolve why teenagers behave this way and it's about time we had some
> > > radical/lateral thinking punishments that at least have some
> > > possibility of working. The root of the problem is fairly fundamental
> > > - put a group of youths together on any street corner and, as with any
> > > animal pack, they automatically believe that corner and the streets
> > > around it are their territory and therefore they can do whatever they
> > > want in their own designated area. So how do you deal with this? Every
> > > pack has a leader, police identify that individual and each time the
> > > youths are known to be responsible for any anti-social behaviour make
> > > the leader carry out community work. Sweeping the streets,
> > > whitewashing graffiti from walls anything that improves the local
> > > environments. Yes this will cost manpower resources, yes it will need
> > > to be monitored, but hey the law abidding community is losing this
> > > battle no matter what the statistics say!

> > > Read more:
> > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217989/Mug-Hoodie-Tories-pro...
> > > 000-jail-clear-Britains-streets-thugs.html#ixzz1qtHIpYz9

> > > ***

> > > I find it interesting because then the streets won't be full of shit
> > > as they are now. And this conforms with the Wisdom of the Jungle. But
> > > that's only my humble opinion.

> > You've really jumped the tracks on this one Monk. Where to start? First
> > off, in your post of April 1, you let slide a reference in a publication
> > that datakoll posted, "Z, a cop and M a negro is a classic American
> > problem". First off there are no negros, just people with varying
> > amounts of melanin. If you wanted to be very picky, I suppose you could
> > divide the world between those from sub-Saharan Africa, and everybody
> > else. When everybody else left Africa, they encountered Neanderthal man
> > (our cousin who was somewhat conceptually challenged) and picked up some
> > of his chromosomes (1% - 4% for everyone, except the sub-Saharans).
> > But I digress. White people, and People of color (black, or brown
> > People) are the appropriate terms because there are NO sub-species for
> > Homo sapiens.

> There are a number of issues that I see here. Firstly, a hood makes
> you a dangerous people in the eyes of many people. Why wear it outside
> the right context? Secondly, the racial issue works two ways.
> Zimmerman is part of a minority as well. Thirdly, the gun culture
> creates this vigilante mentality. It happened in Florida where "stand
> your ground" is the law of the land. Fourthly, gated communities have
> lower tolerance for gang members, so the paranoia is fed by separating
> people. Fifth, why not give other options to youths other than
> assuming the identity of a gang? Where's the space to ride a bike and
> keep them off violence?

> So, I think they were the wrong people in the wrong place.

This is the kind of culture we should be promoting. Not gang culture,
but bicycle culture:

'We All Can Ride started in the summer of July 2010 when Egbevado
Ananouko and Charles Robertson went on a bike ride out to Powell
garage lost and found. Charles had lost his keys and they were out
there to pick them up. As Egbevado stopped at Mccoy park to wait for
Charles to get his bike from his house, he played soccer with some of
the kids he worked with at the boys and girls club. When Charles
Joined Egbevado they rode off and noticed kids on bikes had followed
them. The children wanted to bike ride with the two men and Egbevado
said maybe next time while Charles promised them a bike ride the
following week. The kids stopped following them an as Egbevado and
Charles were on the road, Egbevado asked Charles "why did you promise
those kids a bike ride next week?" "Are you able to lead the bike
ride?" Charles replied "No, Egbevado you are the one who works with
kids so you will lead the ride." Once returning from the Powell garage
Egbevado started to plan and come up with a name for the ride, he
decided on “We All Can Ride" and the journey began.'

http://weallcanride.org/

Around here only pro cyclists will ever dare ride on the road. That
usually means affluent, white people ride bikes in lycra suits on
weekends with speed and confidence to match. But that sometimes turns
tragic too as the recent hit and run of a cyclist proves. He will have
a memory ride, but minorities don't even get that. Minorities need a
positive program such as We All Can Ride to prove themselves. It
sounds to me like kids are bored and they simply have the wrong role
model to follow.

So it that the city of Portland is taking the lead while we ignore the
reality of the jungle. I guess we only know how to build gated
communities to keep hoodies out, but they sometimes find themselves in
the wrong place. Beyond justice there's a need for solutions. But
that's only my humble opinion.

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TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Apr 25, 2012, 9:56:18 PM4/25/12
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On Apr 25, 3:53 pm, "Is JohnJohnsn Mentally Ill?"
<jls1...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Apr 25, 2:17 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
> Last time I rode on a city street an old woman driver nearly
> assassinated me, and I have ridden all over Western North Carolina and
> Southern California, and then places where I could find a field to
> land on, take my bike off the plane, and ride the town, such as
> Townsend, TN, and Mountain City, TN, and Elizabethton, TN, and
> Clemson, SC.
>
> So now I ride the sidewalks in town and out of town the greenways --
> Asheville, NC; Greenville, SC, and every once in a while the Blue
> Ridge Parkway when traffic is thin. Because drivers just innately
> hate bicyclists, I avoid being in MV traffic. Next greenway to ride:
> Knoxville, TN.
>
> And here is a great movie to watch where a motorist does a hit-and-run
> on a bicyclist and is caught red-handed. Watch this, it's mucho fun!
> --->
>
> http://videosift.com/video/Driver-Attemps-Hit-and-Run-Gets-Blocked-in...
>
> Notice that Pennsylvania has changed its laws to encourage bicycling,
> but it doesn't encourage me all that much.
>
> When I lived in Southern Cal. for a few short months I rode the
> bicycle trail, along the beach, all the way from Rancho Palos Verdes
> to Santa
> Monica. I miss that. That was a great ride, and when bicyclists
> crossed public roads they had the right-of-way.
>
> Now back to bitch-slapping an illiterate git from the texecution state.

http://videosift.com/video/Driver-Attemps-Hit-and-Run-Gets-Blocked-in-By-Other-Drivers

Awesome. This video also proves my point that we need LIVE CAMERAS all
over the place to catch those criminals.

And then they need to be handed down a harsh sentence to serve as
example.

TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Apr 28, 2012, 12:58:07 PM4/28/12
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On Apr 28, 12:08 pm, Billy <wildbi...@withoutta.net> wrote:

> > The prison industry needs the gun culture and the gang culture. It
> > also needs the War on Drugs, etc.
>
> But most of us don't need an oligarchy, racism, or prejudice based on
> fashion. It doesn't further us to encourage the few, and suppress the
> majority.

But it is my contention that this "fashion" is forced on the poor by
Hollywood and they establishment. It's been glorified and exported as
a valuable drug for the masses. And they are able to tell them apart.

A fashion where the bicycle is the key item is the perfect way to lift
up the poor. I think by now gang culture is synonymous with American
culture.

By contrast the Rasta fashion is also a minority movement, but it's a
deeper social movement. And Hollywood may be afraid to spread
revolution around. But that's only my humble opinion.

TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Apr 29, 2012, 8:38:51 PM4/29/12
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On Apr 26, 1:38 am, Billy <wildbi...@withoutta.net> wrote:
> In article
> <a733fd31-7f4a-4827-8d85-668465d71...@i2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > Cameron1s so-called ‘hug a hoodie1 campaign and shrugged off the
> > > > > suggestion that the new Tory stance was more like ‘mug a hoodie1.
>
> > > > > And this is an interesting comment...
>
> > > > > This really is financially prohibitive and impractical nor does it
> > > > > resolve why teenagers behave this way and it's about time we had some
> > > > > radical/lateral thinking punishments that at least have some
> > > > > possibility of working. The root of the problem is fairly fundamental
> > > > > - put a group of youths together on any street corner and, as with any
> > > > > animal pack, they automatically believe that corner and the streets
> > > > > around it are their territory and therefore they can do whatever they
> > > > > want in their own designated area. So how do you deal with this? Every
> > > > > pack has a leader, police identify that individual and each time the
> > > > > youths are known to be responsible for any anti-social behaviour make
> > > > > the leader carry out community work. Sweeping the streets,
> > > > > whitewashing graffiti from walls anything that improves the local
> > > > > environments. Yes this will cost manpower resources, yes it will need
> > > > > to be monitored, but hey the law abidding community is losing this
> > > > > battle no matter what the statistics say!
>
> > > > > Read more:
> > > > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217989/Mug-Hoodie-Tories-pro...
> > > > > 000-jail-clear-Britains-streets-thugs.html#ixzz1qtHIpYz9
>
> > > > > ***
>
> > > > > I find it interesting because then the streets won't be full of shit
> > > > > as they are now. And this conforms with the Wisdom of the Jungle. But
> > > > > that's only my humble opinion.
>
> Central planning for recreation?

If the government doesn't promote exercise and healthy activities, who
will? It doesn't require central planning, but EDUCATION and proper
BIKE FACILITIES are helpful.

>
> Minorities are under attack. Why wouldn't they identify with that? Do
> you have any idea about the power of the media?

I think THE POOR as a whole are under attack. Under Globalization they
are the losers. Blacks and Hispanics can live in Gated Communities if
they got the dough.

> > positive program such as We All Can Ride to prove themselves. It
> > sounds to me like kids are bored and they simply have the wrong role
> > model to follow.
>
> Minorities? Aren't bike riders a minority? Aren't barbeque devotés a
> minority? Slice and dice, and you will find that you are a member of a
> minority,

Well, cyclists can lay claim to a moral superiority given by their
frugality. Even vegetarians should be accommodated to fit their
healthier lifestyle and minimal impact on the planet. Barbecue
devotees better become vegetarian before they can claim superiority.

>
> "THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
> and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
>
> THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
> and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
>
> THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
> and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
>
> THEN THEY CAME for the Catholics,
> and I didn¹t speak up because I was a Protestant.
>
> THEN THEY CAME for me
> and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Many people learn to go with the flow in order to survive. It may be
the wrong strategy but people is afraid to take a stand, even in
democracy. The system succeeds when they are afraid.

>
>
> > So it that the city of Portland is taking the lead while we ignore the
> > reality of the jungle. I guess we only know how to build gated
> > communities to keep hoodies out, but they sometimes find themselves in
> > the wrong place. Beyond justice there's a need for solutions. But
> > that's only my humble opinion.
>
> Ghettoes are a jungle? Where do ghettoes come from?

The jungle is the perfect metaphor for ghettos. Black American have
used that language to describe. Even Marley noticed that fact:

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/bob+marley/concrete+jungle_20021669.html

> > "THE REVOLUTION IS ABOUT SOLUTIONS" says the motto.
>
> Every commissar has a solution, and a 5 year plan. It's not a revolution
> I would find acceptable.
>
> Our mission statement reads,"We hold these truths to be self-evident,
> that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator
> with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and
> the pursuit of Happiness. ‹ That to secure these rights, Governments are
> instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the
> governed, ‹ That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of
> these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and
> to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles
> and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most
> likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

Slavery flourished under those statements. And we have trashed the
country in 2 centuries. The last Indians roamed free a long time ago,
and not even pedestrians and cyclists are safe. They can go to a Gated
Community, so they say.

Now we enjoy ECONOMIC APARTHEID, but it's not called apartheid, so
everybody seem to be happy with the status quo. Of course, those who
are unhappy have no voice.

Bob Marley was a great voice for them. I guess he got the right
revolution:

(lyrics)

It takes a revolution (revolution) to make a solution;
(doo-doo-doo-doo)
Too much confusion (aaa-aaah), so much frustration, eh!
I don't wanna live in the park (live in the park);
Can't trust no shadows after dark (shadows after dark), yeah-eh!
So, my friend, I wish that you could see,
Like a bird in the tree, the prisoners must be free, yeah! (free)

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Revolution-lyrics-Bob-Marley/7EF8B6F14AFDFB6248256945000CE264


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