> > > > When you first posed that calling a bird a tunafish bs, I let it be > > > despite > > > > the sillyness of it.
> > > i did?
> > Nope.
> > > how grateful of you.
> > Grateful for what? Oh, I think you mean gracious.
> are you stupid or am i stupid for trying to talk to you?
> > > > It seems you recognized yourself in jay's musing and my reponse to it > > > > bothered you.
> > > i did that also?
> > I don't know. I said that it seems so. Why else would you get so bent out > of > > shape? It's fairly obvious you have no problem trying to understand things > > like desire without understanding the difference between desire and > > obsession and the synonymy between desire and want. > > Do you have the slightest clue as to what is meant by abandoning knowledge > > in the TTC? Here's a hint... go study the origins of the philosophy of > Shen > > Dao. Try Chad Hansen's page. Here's another hint, it has little or nothing > > to do with being ignorant/unknowledgable.
> keep backpedaling jim > you might pass yourself
Backpedaling? You toss around the "no intellect" and "no knowledge" stuff as if it means one should be dumb and ignorant respctively. You moron. It is a direct attack on other philosophies (particularly Confucianism) that espouse intellectualism and claim knowledge.
Duh... what does desire mean? You fool, you nitpick desire, and deep meanings, to try to get at the root of that which is natural. You r a fuckin' moron.
> > > > Personally I don't care what you do or do not know. > > > > Why are you so preoccupied with me?
> > > i'm not normally
> > Just since you've come to apt to play the "I know how Taoists should be" > > petty wannabe. All you seem to do here is quote text as if that means > > anything or tell a shitload of people who've been living this shit for > years > > that they don't know. You don't have a clue as to why there are so many > > differences between what you think and the actual practices of both > Tao-chia > > and Tao-chiao. But that's okay, it seems you tossed away intelligence > before > > it was time.
> lol > careful, you might pop > here is your lesson for today, > 'The Way is to preserve what you already have,
Duh... what is desire?
> not to seek what you haven't got.
Duh... how can I end desire?
> If you seek > what you haven't got, then what you have is lost; > if you go along with what you have, then what > you want will come.'
> > > > > "daywalker" <o...@o.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > Is Moonshadao an asshole?
> > > > > I thought everyone was an arsehole <G> Rgds Ken
> > > > Some of us are just better at it than others. ;-) > > > > Another beer mate?
> > > make mine a large one, beer that is . Rgds Ken
> > ah, barkeep, quarts all around here. Fosters?
> Fosters is fine. Took me years to find out what gives it that singular > taste. Its the solvent in the varnish on the inside of the can.. Came > across the same taste in some peaches we were canning and that is what was > causing it. <G> Rgds Ken
Yeah, so uh, hey barkeep... One can of Austrailian motor oil for ole Ken here. ;-)
> > > > > > "daywalker" <o...@o.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > Is Moonshadao an asshole?
> > > > > > I thought everyone was an arsehole <G> Rgds Ken
> > > > > Some of us are just better at it than others. ;-) > > > > > Another beer mate?
> > > > make mine a large one, beer that is . Rgds Ken
> > > ah, barkeep, quarts all around here. Fosters?
> > Fosters is fine. Took me years to find out what gives it that singular > > taste. Its the solvent in the varnish on the inside of the can.. Came > > across the same taste in some peaches we were canning and that is what was > > causing it. <G> Rgds Ken
> Yeah, so uh, hey barkeep... One can of Austrailian motor oil > for ole Ken here. ;-)
I'm sorry, this is alt.philosophy.taoism, not alt.beer take your sodding Oz suds to the appropriate ng and cease your off-topic frothings before I get nasty.
;-)
Plus, St. Peter's Organic Ale is the best. Beerchia rather than beerchaio.
> I'm sorry, this is alt.philosophy.taoism, not alt.beer take your > sodding Oz suds to the appropriate ng and cease your off-topic > frothings before I get nasty.
> ;-)
> Plus, St. Peter's Organic Ale is the best. Beerchia rather than > beerchaio.
> > > > > > > "daywalker" <o...@o.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > Is Moonshadao an asshole?
> > > > > > > I thought everyone was an arsehole <G> Rgds Ken
> > > > > > Some of us are just better at it than others. ;-) > > > > > > Another beer mate?
> > > > > make mine a large one, beer that is . Rgds Ken
> > > > ah, barkeep, quarts all around here. Fosters?
> > > Fosters is fine. Took me years to find out what gives it that singular > > > taste. Its the solvent in the varnish on the inside of the can.. Came > > > across the same taste in some peaches we were canning and that is what > was > > > causing it. <G> Rgds Ken
> > Yeah, so uh, hey barkeep... One can of Austrailian motor oil > > for ole Ken here. ;-)
> Make mine SAE 30 throat lubricant Rgds Ken
I didn't mean literally. I was implying Foster's has that 'oily' taste. and it comes in a can that looks like a quart of oil. Otherwise it is a good beer. ;-)
> > > > > > > > "daywalker" <o...@o.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > Is Moonshadao an asshole?
> > > > > > > > I thought everyone was an arsehole <G> Rgds Ken
> > > > > > > Some of us are just better at it than others. ;-) > > > > > > > Another beer mate?
> > > > > > make mine a large one, beer that is . Rgds Ken
> > > > > ah, barkeep, quarts all around here. Fosters?
> > > > Fosters is fine. Took me years to find out what gives it that singular > > > > taste. Its the solvent in the varnish on the inside of the can.. Came > > > > across the same taste in some peaches we were canning and that is what > > was > > > > causing it. <G> Rgds Ken
> > > Yeah, so uh, hey barkeep... One can of Austrailian motor oil > > > for ole Ken here. ;-)
> > Make mine SAE 30 throat lubricant Rgds Ken
> I didn't mean literally. > I was implying Foster's has that 'oily' taste. > and it comes in a can that looks like a quart of oil. > Otherwise it is a good beer. ;-)
I really like it too. But it does have on odd background taste which from my experience comes from the varnish inside the can. Too much talking, not enough drinking. Skol ! Rgds Ken
> > Arrogant Bastard? Never heard of it. > > Do you brew it yourself? > Stone Brewery, San Diego. 11.5%. Available most states. You just have to > know how to ask for it. > --
I don't think I would have a problem with that. Do you? ;-)
BTW have you figured out anything else, or do you still think Taoist Philosophy is what you are talking about?
If you ain't got an agenda here, like proving a point that don't need to be made, I usually leave you alone.
Unless you are a jerk off like dougie. ;-) I've been in his shit for years.
Drop your 'project' aspirations in this group and pick up some information about what you think you know. I will leave you alone.
>> > Arrogant Bastard? Never heard of it. >> > Do you brew it yourself?
>> Stone Brewery, San Diego. 11.5%. Available most states. You just have to >> know how to ask for it. >> --
> I don't think I would have a problem with that. > Do you? ;-)
> BTW have you figured out anything else, or do you still > think Taoist Philosophy is what you are talking about?
> If you ain't got an agenda here, like proving a point that > don't need to be made, I usually leave you alone.
> Unless you are a jerk off like dougie. ;-) > I've been in his shit for years.
> Drop your 'project' aspirations in this group and > pick up some information about what you think you know. > I will leave you alone.
How to buy Arrogant Bastard Ale :
Don't try to buy it anywhere you have bought any fizzy yellow stuff. Walk in, pound on the counter and shout "I'm an argant bastard, give me my ale". They won't give it to the counter, so go in the back with the attendant to get it. -- Russ Lyttle lyttlec(@)earthlink.net
lisa wrote: > Hi Ole, > Something else you may want to look at is reading a historic primer on > the evolution of Chinese philosophy that led to my favorite part, the > CT. George Henry, a founding member of this group (hey geo, hello, > wherever you are) says go back to the beginning of things, and I don't > think the CT is an exception. Looking at the CT in its historical > context gives it holistic oomph. Arthur Waley's Three Ways of Thought > in Ancient China and Fung Yu-lan's Short History of Chinese Philosophy > are good choices to take a look at. Wing-Tsit Chan's A Sourcebook in > Chinese Philosophy is a favored book by another founder of this > newsgroup, Miller Jew, aka Z (hi Z!) which has about every little > thing in it.
Forgive me for being a bit slow to reply (thing is, I've been checking various news programs lately, and haven't caught up with this thread in OE until now), but I've finally read your post and just wanted to drop by to say thanks. It's always nice - perhaps especially for a beginner like me - to be able to put things in a certain context, to get a bit more understanding. While I'm at it: thanks to all of you, who by your helpfulness and patience have helped me begin to get a slight understanding of what this Tao thing is all about. I'll be back.
=============================================== Regards, Ole K Trondheim, Norway
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