Re: Dalai is the most dangerous title in the world
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>In history, there are total 14 Dalai.
>but, only 3 fortunately live to be an adult.
>why?
>the rest all deplorably become victims of life-and-death fight of power.
>
>Do you still believe Dalai lama is saint?
I thought he was a Buddhist of sorts.
Buddhism kinda took over lots of the planet.
Very spreading, it.
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>he is only a puppet of he represent class.
>His life is in their hands.
Such is how it usually is with kings,
and queens, monarchs, presidents,
dictators, and others at the top.
Do away with titles
and many things may cease.
Strange it is
to want to be the apex.
The TTC may say it ain't Tao.
-bull sighs
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>Correction:
Maybe they should go back to Gyatso.
Then nobody would know, except for
those in the know.
>the 9th Dalai
>die at 11 years old
>the 10th Dalai(1816～1837)
>die at 22 years old
>the 11th Dalai(1838～1855)，
>die at 18 years old
>the 12th Dalai(1856～1875)，
>die at 20 years old
>
>=====================
>the 1st Dalai(1391～1474)。
83
>the 2nd(1475～1542)。
67
>the 3rd(1543～1588)。
45
>the 4th(1589～1616)。
27
>the 5th(1617～1682)。
65
>the 6th(1683～1706)。
23
>the 7th(1708～1757)。
49
>the 8th(1758～1804)。
46
>...................
>...................
>the 13th(1876～1933)。
57
>the 14th(1934～
74, and counting.
The history of Tibet is interesting.
Reminds me of the Middle East in a way,
not to mention Europe and everywhere else.
Looks like China got hold of it around
100 years or so ago. People everywhere
just want to be free? Whole world over
so easy to see?
-E. Brigati
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I am sure the Arab in U.S wish to be free
I am sure the African in U.S wish to be free.
I am sure the Mexican in U.S wish to be free.
I am sure the Asian in U.S wish to be free.
I am sure the Hawaiian wish to be free.
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Let them Free!
Let them set up their own independent Nations!
Let them set up their own autonomy!
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>I am sure the Injun in U.S wish to be free
I would imagine that if all the tribes were
able to turn back the clock to around 1600
most might feel as if it was better than after
the Europeans began to settle in.
Feelings can be explored.
>I am sure the Arab in U.S wish to be free
I'm not sure if I follow you here.
The Arabs probably were free and migrated.
The Arabs in Arabian might wish to be
more free than they already are.
The Palestinians, for sure. They have a
case to be made that is entirely valid,
as far as I can tell.
Is that what you mean?
>I am sure the African in U.S wish to be free.
Those whose ancestors were slaves
still struggle against the mainstream at times.
There is no doubt about that. But, again,
they were not a nation in the same way that
the so-called Indian Nations were.
Empires take over vast areas.
They expand and contract over the
surface of the planet. Lines on maps.
Certainly there is inequity.
Those who conquer others rule for a spell.
Slavery is a strange practice. Or was. Or is.
>I am sure the Mexican in U.S wish to be free.
Here again, there are territories that were
held under Spanish conquest and then became
subject to the States. Probably there are those
who would prefer to rejoin Mexico as a nation.
And there are probably those who might prefer
to go back prior to Cortez and think of themselves
as belonging to a different tribe of people.
I'm not sure if that's what you mean.
Erasing the border between the US and Mexico
evokes fear in lots of nationalistic people
who live north of the arbitrary line.
Identification, be it with a family, tribe, nation
or species or any differentiated sector
can lead to interesting thought-patterns.
>I am sure the Asian in U.S wish to be free.
If you mean the Tibetans, and how they
might want China to allow Tibet to be
what it was when Tibet was an Empire,
that's apparently true.
But I'm not sure that's what you mean.
There may be Japanese in the States
who would like to return to pre-WW2 conditions
as maybe when Japan held much of China.
Many people like to expand their territory.
When there were concentration camps in
the States, no doubt. And during the gold rush,
and building of the railroads, for sure there
was a tremendous amount of discrimination
and lack of freedom in the States in terms
of the Asians living in the U.S. at the time.
There could be those in the States from
Taiwan, Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia,
China, you name it, who want things to be
other than how they are being developed
by the Global Capitalists. I don't know if
there are many Mongols in the States
who dream of when Tibet was a friend.
Thinking along nationalistic lines
can be lots of fun and interesting.
But I'm not really sure what you mean.
>I am sure the Hawaiian wish to be free.
Probably there are those who would
prefer to be an independent country.
Maybe a great many. Perhaps a majority.
I've visited the Pali lookout
where one faction or another was driven
over the cliff, once upon a time. Maybe
there could be those who would like to
return to prior to when Kamehameha
made a name for himself.
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>Let them Free!
>Let them set up their own independent Nations!
>Let them set up their own autonomy!
It's curious how a government
won't allow a province or territory to
opt out of a nation.
In the case of the States, I think the
folks living in a territory voted to become
a state or remain in some other status.
Puerto Rico comes to mind. But once the
decision is made by those who make decisions,
then it's very difficult to undo without bloodshed
or some other country stepping in to help.
Freedom might be a state of mind.
Living in a region, a so-called individual
may choose not to identify as being a citizen
or member of the arbitrary line that defines
one nation from another country.
Many people may think of themselves
as being Asian or European, and thus transcend
national lines to a degree. Few if any people
think of themselves as Western Hemispherians.
That broader region has yet to enter consciousness
but may very well in this century.
Folks could identify as being Equatorians,
be it North or South, but probably few if any do.
Maybe those down-under do more than those
who live, "above," the equator.
It can be a trip to see
what it is that one identifies with
and how one may move through zones
from being a man or woman to simply an
individual, from being an American or Chinese
to simply being a species of People, from being
an organism, a member of people-kind, to
being simply a form of life.
Life takes on lots of roles
as the lines form and vanish over time.
Simply being, Being, One is.
As long as Existence exists,
so long as one is seen as One
and no more nor less than One,
one is immortal and eternal,
while forms and shapes change.
Some however, enjoy entering
into the drama of life as it unfolds
on stages of history, seen thru a lens
and watched, as a parade, passing by.
Some think they fight and die for a cause.
Very compelling, life cans be.
Lionheart
> In history, there are total 14 Dalai.
> but, only 3 fortunately live to be an adult.
> why?
> the rest all deplorably become victims of life-and-death fight of power.
>
> Do you still believe Dalai lama is saint?
Have you ever investigated in this matter or are you just dropping some
prejudgements?
Kind regards,
Peter
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>tttt in <fufa08$vv3$1...@news.yaako.com> :
>> In history, there are total 14 Dalai.
>> but, only 3 fortunately live to be an adult.
>> why?
>> the rest all deplorably become victims of life-and-death fight of power.
>>
>> Do you still believe Dalai lama is saint?
>Have you ever investigated in this matter or are you just dropping some
>prejudgements?
The dalai lama is the incarnation of a buddhist master. while we mere
mortals are subject to death and re-incarnation. A buddhist master is
freed from the wheel of birth and death.. he chose to return as a teacher.
He is selected by certain signs by those in the know. The same
process is used in the selection of a messiah by orthodox jews
Wikipedia.. Lubavitch messianism, is a spectrum of beliefs within the
Chabad movement regarding their late leader Menachem Mendel Schneerson and
his purported position as the Messiah. While some believe that he died
but will return as the messiah, others believe that he is merely
"hidden." Other groups believe that he has God-like powers, or is
the "creator" but most negate the idea that he is the messiah. The
prevalence of these views within the movement is disputed, though very
few will openly say that Schneerson cannot be the Messiah.
Hard to believe that a guy from brooklyn almost became the next messiah.
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